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General sports discussion => AFL => Brisbane => Topic started by: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 08:27:05 PM

Title: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 08:27:05 PM
my opinion is yes
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: iZander on August 31, 2016, 08:29:01 PM
yes, but dont think they can get one because the precedence has been set with melbourne not getting one :P
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 08:32:43 PM
yes, but dont think they can get one because the precedence has been set with melbourne not getting one :P

hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: iZander on August 31, 2016, 08:34:06 PM
yes, but dont think they can get one because the precedence has been set with melbourne not getting one :P

hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two

gee i hope not, couldnt say for sure though

I think using past rejection for the priority pick is exactly what you should compare with :P
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 31, 2016, 08:36:02 PM
Melbourne got priority picks though, just didn't work out. or one at least, not sure if there were more

I think Brissy need one
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 08:37:14 PM
well i'm saying Brisbanes future looks much worse then Melbournes ever did even before the last 2 years
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: iZander on August 31, 2016, 08:44:11 PM
well i'm saying Brisbanes future looks much worse then Melbournes ever did even before the last 2 years
mmm fair enough :P I reckon there might be some melbourne supporters that would disagree with that though :P

Brissy actually have some good players, especially in that mid, there was a time when Jonesy was a lone soldier at the dees :P
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: Mat0369 on August 31, 2016, 08:54:04 PM
hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two

Melbourne last played finals in 2006, Brisbane 2009. The answer is no they haven't, Melbourne were much more of a basket case and Brisbane don't deserve a pick.

The Dogs looked to be in a worse position before Beveridge got there and Port looked on the verge of shutting up shop when they were putting tarps on the seat and getting smashed every week. It turns quickly.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: nrich102 on August 31, 2016, 09:04:18 PM
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: iZander on August 31, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.
I cant say i know the criteria for PP but im pretty sure thats not one :P
But certainly bias everywhere so could be factor for sure!!!

Think there would be some very angry Melbourne supporters if you were to get a PP though :P and probably rightly so
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2016, 09:08:50 PM
Melbourne didn't get one, so we won't. If we're still in the same position in another year or two, then maybe.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: nrich102 on August 31, 2016, 09:10:53 PM
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.
I cant say i know the criteria for PP but im pretty sure thats not one :P
But certainly bias everywhere so could be factor for sure!!!

Think there would be some very angry Melbourne supporters if you were to get a PP though :P and probably rightly so
There is no criteria for a PP, its at the AFL's discretion. Sure they have something drawn up somewhere, but it can't be that hard to justify giving us a pick.

Melbourne supports will have more than every right to be pissed if we get a pick.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: fanTCfool on August 31, 2016, 09:11:06 PM
If Brisbane got pick #1 and #3 and Essendon got #2 I wouldn't be too upset
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: meow meow on August 31, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
All Brisbane need is better medical staff. I doubt they'd suck as much if Beams, Christo and Bell were playing.

And Melbourne did get a priority pick disguised as Frawley's compensation pick.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
I think we're a pretty good chance of PP, especially because of the Essendon situation. I know you'll hate me for talking about this KB, but there are a lot of people that don't think Essendon deserve pick 1, and if someone like Eddie was to come out and say... Basically it gives the AFL a very good excuse to not give Essendon pick 1.


people cant put aside there hate for Essendon to make a clear minded decision i really stopped caring about random peoples opinons on AFL a long time ago everyones biased

the AFL cant take it off us now anyway they should of thought of this at the start of the season

Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: Ringo on August 31, 2016, 09:38:21 PM
All Brisbane need is better medical staff. I doubt they'd suck as much if Beams, Christo and Bell were playing.

And Melbourne did get a priority pick disguised as Frawley's compensation pick.
maybe this will happen as well with any compo picks we get haha,
But no way should we get one as we have not been as low as the dees and they asked and was refused.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: PowerBug on August 31, 2016, 10:01:54 PM
hasn't Brisbane been down longer than Melbourne? i don't think you can compare the two

Melbourne last played finals in 2006, Brisbane 2009. The answer is no they haven't, Melbourne were much more of a basket case and Brisbane don't deserve a pick.

The Dogs looked to be in a worse position before Beveridge got there and Port looked on the verge of shutting up shop when they were putting tarps on the seat and getting smashed every week. It turns quickly.
And people forget we were super unlucky in that our worst years were when the expansion clubs came in. So whilst Melbourne, Brisbane get their number of top 2/3 draft picks Port didn't draft inside the top 3 at all! (Hartlett 4, Wingard 6 were our highest I believe)
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: Big Mac on August 31, 2016, 11:04:44 PM
I think the AFL's pretty much set the precedent that if a club is struggling then the assistance they get will be in the form of $$$ for a new coach/CEO etc....Which helped us a lot more than a priority pick ever would have
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: Ringo on September 01, 2016, 07:33:15 AM
I think the AFL's pretty much set the precedent that if a club is struggling then the assistance they get will be in the form of $$$ for a new coach/CEO etc....Which helped us a lot more than a priority pick ever would have
Yep this is the way to go and the AFL is putting money into Brisbanes Football Department I believe so we can compete with other cllubs.  Out football department is probably the leanest in the AFL due to our financial position. Suns may be in same boat.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: elephants on September 01, 2016, 11:45:13 AM
I don't think another early draft pick is what they need. They need better facilities, bigger crowds, more entertainment/atmosphere, good internal leaders and role models. Not another highly rated kid who will be tempted by the lure of home/Victoria in 5 years time.
Title: Re: do Brisbane NEED a priority pick
Post by: Ringo on September 01, 2016, 01:38:10 PM
Not quite ele - The entertainment is there and the atmosphere at times is there. You will always have a dull atmosphere when team is losing as we are I can remember crowds of 35 - 40k at the Gabba in our premiership years. May seem light for you AFL states but very good for Brisbane especially now this season where we have had only 3 crowd figures over 20k.
Facilities will improve when the training ground moves to the Airport precinct but we are looking at 2020 for this. For those that are unaware Brisbane trains in 4 locations, management is accross 3 locations as well and the club has been trying to find suitable property to amalgamate all to one.  This also has been some of the off field problems. Facilities at the Gabba also need an upgrade has they have been flooded twice.
The good internal leaders and role models is a real issue as can be seen who will replace Rocky as Captain if he is relieved and looks like being a choice in 2 Zorko and Beams and both have worrying traits as well.
We have another couple of good kids with our academy this year who will use our later picks on. 
Only advantage of priority pick would be if we traded it to get another gun.
As I have said my personal opinion is we should not get a priority pick as some of our issues are from bad decisions and we have to live with that.