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Title: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on March 21, 2017, 06:57:41 PM
Only just thought about this, didn't we say a bunch of us would put out votes for each game to try and simulate the Brownlow voting?  Any thoughts on how we should/could do it?  I'll still do my own count, but would be cool if we could do a season long group Brownlow.  Maybe get a solid number of participants and each person puts up their 3-2-1 for each game, then average those results out for each game to come up with a group 3-2-1.  Anyone keen?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on March 21, 2017, 10:05:06 PM
Only just thought about this, didn't we say a bunch of us would put out votes for each game to try and simulate the Brownlow voting?  Any thoughts on how we should/could do it?  I'll still do my own count, but would be cool if we could do a season long group Brownlow.  Maybe get a solid number of participants and each person puts up their 3-2-1 for each game, then average those results out for each game to come up with a group 3-2-1.  Anyone keen?
My site will be doing a brownlow article every week
Im happy to post our votes here to help the average :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on March 21, 2017, 10:26:26 PM
Only just thought about this, didn't we say a bunch of us would put out votes for each game to try and simulate the Brownlow voting?  Any thoughts on how we should/could do it?  I'll still do my own count, but would be cool if we could do a season long group Brownlow.  Maybe get a solid number of participants and each person puts up their 3-2-1 for each game, then average those results out for each game to come up with a group 3-2-1.  Anyone keen?
My site will be doing a brownlow article every week
Im happy to post our votes here to help the average :)

Sounds good mate!  :D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on March 26, 2017, 12:20:40 AM
So far what I've got for the round.  Bolded are locks.  Can't for the life of me work out the Pies/Dogs game though..  :-\

Round 1                  
Blues vs Tigers   Dustin Martin   3   Marc Murphy   2   Kade Simpson   1
Pies vs Dogs                  
Swans vs Power   Ollie Wines   3   Chad Wingard   2   Lance Franklin   1
Saints vs Demons   Nathan Jones   3   Jordan Lewis   2   Nick Riewoldt   1
Bombers vs Hawks   Dyson Heppell   3   Zach Merrett   2   Tom Mitchell   1
Suns vs Lions   Dayne Beams   3   Dayne Zorko   2   Gary Ablett   1
Kangaroos vs Eagles                  
Crows vs Giants                  
Dockers vs Cats      
            
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: TomK on March 26, 2017, 12:23:27 AM
Pendles should be 3, whether the umps see the same since they lost is a different question.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on March 26, 2017, 12:26:10 AM
I assume Beams is a lock considering he won the BOG medal? Tbh I thought Rocky was ahead of him though, he was flowering insane.

With the Lions winning, could go Beams, Rocky, Zorko. Touk, Hall, Ablett all a chance of stealing a vote though.

For Blues vs Tigs:
Dusty obviously 3, think Prestia, Murphy, Kreuzer were the next best, but rucks never get the votes, so Murphy 2 and Prestia 1 there for me

Swans vs Port maybe JPK over Buddy for the 1 vote

Agree with Dons vs Hawks votes you have there

Pies and Dogs a tough one. Pendles clear BOG for me. Maybe JJ 2 votes, Sidey 1 vote.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 26, 2017, 11:22:06 AM
Pendles 3 (Pretty sure he won the medal?)

Adams and Sidey possible to get a vote. JJ best for Dogs

Reckon Gawn might get a vote too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on March 26, 2017, 12:35:25 PM
Blues vs Tigers   Dustin Martin   3   Marc Murphy   2   Kade Simpson   1
Pies vs Dogs      Scott Pendlebury   3   Jason Johannisen   2   Taylor Adams   1               
Swans vs Power   Ollie Wines   3   Chad Wingard   2   Lance Franklin   1
Saints vs Demons   Nathan Jones   3   Jordan Lewis   2   Nick Riewoldt   1
Bombers vs Hawks   Dyson Heppell   3   Zach Merrett   2   Tom Mitchell   1
Suns vs Lions   Tom Rockliff  3   Dayne Zorko   2   Dayne Beams   1
Kangaroos vs Eagles                 
Crows vs Giants                 
Dockers vs Cats     
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on March 27, 2017, 01:52:29 AM
3: Dustin Martin 2: Marc Murphy 1: Dion Prestia
3: Jason Johannisen 2: Scott Pendlebury 1: Lachie Hunter
3: Dyson Heppell 2: Zach Merrett 1: Tom Mitchell
3: Tom Rockliff 2: Dane Beams 1: Aaron Hall 
3: Josh Kennedy 2: Sam Mitchell 1: Andrew Gaff
3: Rory Laird 2: Rory Atkins 1: Richard Douglas
3: Mitch Duncan 2: Patrick Dangerfield 1: Nat Fyfe

Havent got around to the 2 saturday twilight games yet !
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on March 27, 2017, 04:11:12 PM
Do my own count also (best get last year was Gaff to win Eagles votes at $10). Will post here, will just be about collaborting everyones votes. Sorry about the large number of lines, its a direct copy and paste.

Round 1.

Carl 89 v Rich 132
3. D.Martin
2. D.Prestia
1. M.Murphy

Coll 86 v WB 100
3. S.Pendlebury
2. J.Johannisen
1. M.Bontempelli

St.K 90 vs Melb 120
3. N.Jones
2. C.Oliver
1. N.Riewoldt


Syd 82 v PA 110
3. O.Wines
2. JP.Kennedy
1. T.Boak

Ess 116 v Haw 91
3. D.Heppell
2. Z.Merrett
1. T.Mitchell

GC 96 v Bris 98
3. T.Rockliff
2. D.Beams
1. D.Zorko

N.M 93 v WC 136
3. JJ.Kennedy
2. S.Mitchell
1. A.Gaff

Ade 147 v GWS 91
3. R.Laird
2. R.Atkins
1. C.Cameron

Fre 73 v Geel 115
3. M.Duncan
2. P.Dangerfield
1. J.Selwood
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on March 27, 2017, 09:35:07 PM
So far what I've got for the round.  Bolded are locks.  Can't for the life of me work out the Pies/Dogs game though..  :-\

Round 1                  
Blues vs Tigers   Dustin Martin   3   Marc Murphy   2   Kade Simpson   1
Pies vs Dogs                  
Swans vs Power   Ollie Wines   3   Chad Wingard   2   Lance Franklin   1
Saints vs Demons   Nathan Jones   3   Jordan Lewis   2   Nick Riewoldt   1
Bombers vs Hawks   Dyson Heppell   3   Zach Merrett   2   Tom Mitchell   1
Suns vs Lions   Dayne Beams   3   Dayne Zorko   2   Gary Ablett   1
Kangaroos vs Eagles                  
Crows vs Giants                  
Dockers vs Cats      

My updated round 1.
Round 1                  
Blues vs Tigers   Dustin Martin   3   Marc Murphy   2   Kade Simpson   1
Pies vs Dogs   Jason Johanison   3   Scott Pendlebury   2   Marcus Bontempelli   1
Swans vs Power   Ollie Wines   3   Chad Wingard   2   Lance Franklin   1
Saints vs Demons   Nathan Jones   3   Jordan Lewis   2   Nick Riewoldt   1
Bombers vs Hawks   Dyson Heppell   3   Zach Merrett   2   Tom Mitchell   1
Suns vs Lions   Tom Rockliff   3   Dayne Beams   2   Dayne Zorko   1
Kangaroos vs Eagles   Josh K Kennedy   3   Sam Mitchell   2   Andrew Gaff   1
Crows vs Giants   Rory Laird   3   Rory Atkins   2   Charlie Cameron   1
Dockers vs Cats   Patrick Dangerfield   3   Mitch Duncan   2   Joel Selwood   1
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: PowerBug on March 27, 2017, 10:13:37 PM
Who'd have expected 2 of the 3 Rory's to be in the best 3, and neither of them to be Sloane? :o I hope we get to see a game this season where the Rory's go 3,2,1 ;D

I didn't watch it only heard some on radio but Pendles was pretty huge and clutch.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 27, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
Pendles was BOG by a country mile
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on March 27, 2017, 10:39:54 PM
no votes for Gawn? I'd give him 3
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on March 27, 2017, 11:01:19 PM
Pendles was BOG by a country mile

Agree, it doesnt matter that they lost, 3 votes easily! An even performance from the dogs with no one standing themselves that far clear of the rest.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on March 27, 2017, 11:27:16 PM
no votes for Gawn? I'd give him 3

Gawn, Jones, Lewis, Vince, Oliver, NRoo all deserving of votes in that game imo

Real tough one to pick
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on March 28, 2017, 01:37:11 AM
Bit late to the party. My 3-2-1 for round 1

Richmond v Carlton
3) D.Martin (Rich)
2) M.Murphy (Carl)
1) S.Grigg (Rich)

Collingwood v W.Bulldogs
3) S.Pendlebury (Coll)
2) J.Johannisen (W.B)
1) T.Adams (Coll)

St Kilda v Melbourne
3) C.Oliver (Melb)
2) J.Hogan (Melb)
1) B.Vince (Melb)

Sydney v Port Adelaide
3) O.Wines (Port)
2) J.Kennedy (Syd)
1) T.Boak (Port)

Essendon v Hawthorn
3) D.Heppell (Ess)
2) Z.Merrett (Ess)
1) T.Mitchell (Haw)

Gold Coast v Brisbane
3) G.Ablett (GC)
2) D.Beams (BL)
1) T.Rockliff (BL)

Nth Melbourne v West Coast
3) J.Kennedy (WCE)
2) S.Mitchell (WCE)
1) E.Yeo (WCE)

Adelaide v GWS
3) R.Laird (Adel)
2) R.Atkins (Adel)
1) C.Cameron (Adel)

Fremantle v Geelong
3) P.Dangerfield (Geel)
2) M.Duncan (Geel)
1) J.Selwood (Geel)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on March 28, 2017, 04:16:14 PM
I thought pendls was awesome, but i dunno i just didnt give the 3 :/
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on March 28, 2017, 05:03:18 PM
I thought pendls was awesome, but i dunno i just didnt give the 3 :/

If Pendles isn't a lock 3 then I will give up doing what I have done in the last 7 years regarding brownlow betting, predictions etc.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on March 28, 2017, 06:03:04 PM
I thought pendls was awesome, but i dunno i just didnt give the 3 :/

If Pendles isn't a lock 3 then I will give up doing what I have done in the last 7 years regarding brownlow betting, predictions etc.

Already on Pendles on sportsbet at $28 (with the 'boost' up from 23s)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on March 29, 2017, 01:28:51 AM
I thought pendls was awesome, but i dunno i just didnt give the 3 :/

If Pendles isn't a lock 3 then I will give up doing what I have done in the last 7 years regarding brownlow betting, predictions etc.
Fair play haha
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on March 31, 2017, 01:29:39 AM
My votes for last night were Cotchin 3 Grundy 2 and Treloar 1.

How did everyone else see the game last night?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on March 31, 2017, 01:31:55 AM
My votes for last night were Cotchin 3 Grundy 2 and Treloar 1.

How did everyone else see the game last night?
I thought the same. Reckon umps might give Treloar the 2 though, and i guess Dusty a chance at a vote after the last quarter.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: R.Griffen on March 31, 2017, 10:07:18 AM
I have
3 Cotchin
2 Treloar (kept them in the game late as well)
1 Dusty
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on March 31, 2017, 10:24:38 AM
is nank no chance?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Toga on March 31, 2017, 10:49:53 AM
3. Cotchin
2. Treloar
1. Dusty
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on March 31, 2017, 12:07:35 PM
is nank no chance?


Dont think so, Ruckman always undervalued in brownlow votes and if a ruck gets votes it will be Grundy, 21 touches 45 hit outs.

Cotchin gets the 3. The 2 and 1 could go to any combitnation of Grundy, Treloar, Martin, Pendlebury, WHE
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on April 02, 2017, 10:37:43 AM
Collingwood v Richmond

3. Trent Cotchin
2. Brodie Grundy
1. Adam Treloar

WB v Sydney

3. Marcus Bontempelli
2. Lance Franklin
1. Sam Reid

Hawthorn v Adelaide

3. Rory Sloane
2. Tom Lynch
1. Tom Mitchell

GWS v Gold Coast

3. Dylan Shiel
2. Jake Kelly
1. Toby Greene

Brisbane v Essendon

3. Zach Merrett
2. Dayne Beams
1. Orazio Fantasia

WCE v St Kilda

3. Luke Shuey
2. Andrew Gaff
1. Matt Priddis

Last game was tough to give the 2 and 1 votes for.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: PowerBug on April 02, 2017, 11:13:41 AM
May as well stop counting now, Fantasia has this in the bag 8)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 02, 2017, 02:23:51 PM
Richmond v Collingwood

3. Cotchin (Rich)
2. Grundy (Coll)
1. Treloar (Coll)

Bulldogs v Sydney
3. Bontempelli (WB)
2. Jong (WB)
1. S.Reid (Syd)

Hawthorn v Adelaide
3. Jacobs (Adel)
2. Lynch (Adel)
1. Sloane (Adel)

GWS v GC
3. Kelly (GWS)
2. Greene (GWS)
1. Cameron (GWS)

Essendon v Brisbane
3. Z.Merrett (Ess)
2. S.Martin (Bris)
1. D.Beams (Bris)

WCE v St Kilda
3. Shuey (WCE)
2. Yeo (WCE)
1. Gaff (WCE)

Geelong v Nth Melbourne
3. Dangerfield (Geel)
2. Higgins (NM)
1. J.Selwood (Geel)

Melbourne v Carlton
3. Oliver (Melb)
2. M.Murphy (Carl)
1. Salem (Melb)

Port Adelaide v Fremantle
3. R.Gray (PTA)
2. Wines (PTA)
1. Ebert (PTA)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 03, 2017, 04:37:03 PM
Haven't had a chance to poll my votes yet.  :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 04, 2017, 01:38:02 PM
Round 2

Coll 80 v Rich 99
3. T.Cotchin
2. A.Trelorlar
1. B.Grundy

WB 110 v Syd 87
3. M.Bontempelli
2. L.Jong
1. L.Franklin

Haw 89 v Ade 113
3. R.Sloane
2. S.Jacobs
1. T.Mitchell

GWS 160 v GC 58
3. T.Greene
2. J.Cameron
1. J.Kelly

Bris 84 v Ess 111
3. Z.Merrett
2. D.Beams
1. O.Fantasia

WC 116 v StK 97
3. L.Shuey
2. A.Gaff
1. E.Yeo

Geel 112 vs NM 111
3. S.Higgins
2. P.Dangerfield
1. J.Selwood

Melb 86 v Carl 64
3. C.Salem
2. C.Oliver
1. M.Muprhy

PA 145 v Fre 56
3. R.Gray
2. O.Wines
1. S.Powel-Pepper

Which gives me a leaderboard like this

5-
Z.Merrett
O.Wines

4-
M.Bontempelli
D.Beams
P.Dangerfield
C.Oliver
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: SydneyRox on April 04, 2017, 01:51:28 PM
How you have Bont at 3 for that game and not given picken a vote is criminal!!

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 04, 2017, 04:11:40 PM
How you have Bont at 3 for that game and not given picken a vote is criminal!!

Its not necessarily my ranking of best players, but who I think will get the votes. Bont was quiet early but overall had 30 touches and 2 goals to Pickens 21 and 2. Also 5 more tackles. Bont is more noticable in general too.

Pickens votes history is terrible too, he has 4 brownlow votes in 8 years and 0 last season in the best year of his career.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 04, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
How you have Bont at 3 for that game and not given picken a vote is criminal!!

Its not necessarily my ranking of best players, but who I think will get the votes. Bont was quiet early but overall had 30 touches and 2 goals to Pickens 21 and 2. Also 5 more tackles. Bont is more noticable in general too.

Pickens votes history is terrible too, he has 4 brownlow votes in 8 years and 0 last season in the best year of his career.

^This is prudent in Brownlow voting, if tossing up with votes always pick the guy that usually gets votes over someone who polls terribly.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: meow meow on April 05, 2017, 03:18:27 PM
Should probably lock in Lewis Taylor, all the other guys are nothing more than flashy players who the media like to talk up.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on April 05, 2017, 03:24:44 PM
NM v GEEL
3 S Higgins (NM)
2 P Dangerfield (Geel)
1 J Selwood (Geel)

MELB v CARL
3 C Oliver (Melb)
2 C Salem (Melb)
1 M Murphy (Carl)

PA v FREO
3 R Gray (PA)
2 O Wines (PA)
1 S Powell-Pepper (PA)

For the remaining games I hadn't done.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on April 05, 2017, 03:27:57 PM
Already early but I think Danger will poll super well again. Fyfe in a losing team every week won't help him, hasn't really shown massive things so far. Gaz no good. Dusty will slow down imo. Bont will have too many blokes steal votes.

Danger @$4.50 wowee
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 05, 2017, 03:36:54 PM
Already early but I think Danger will poll super well again. Fyfe in a losing team every week won't help him, hasn't really shown massive things so far. Gaz no good. Dusty will slow down imo. Bont will have too many blokes steal votes.

Danger @$4.50 wowee

Danger and Bont for me.

Every year someone talks about stealing votes, don't see it happening especially with the Dogs.  Voss, Black and Aker, Judd, Cousins and Priddis all won with relatively stacked midfields.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 05, 2017, 05:36:12 PM
Round 2

Tigers vs Pies
3 – Cotchin
2 – Treloar
1 – Grundy

Dogs vs Swans
3 – Bontempelli
2 – Franklin
1 – Reid

Hawks vs Crows
3 – Sloane
2 – Lynch
1 – Mitchell

Giants vs Suns
3 – Greene
2 – Cameron
1 – Kelly

Lions vs Bombers
3 – Merrett
2 – Fantasia
1 – Rockliff

Eagles vs Saints
3 – Shuey
2 – Yeo
1 – Kennedy

Cats vs Roos
3 – Dangerfield
2 – Selwood
1 – Higgins

Dees vs Blues
3 – Oliver
2 – Murphy
1 – Salem

Power vs Dockers
3 – Gray
2 – Wines
1 - Fyfe
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on April 08, 2017, 02:03:08 AM
SYD v COLL
3 T Adams (Coll)
2 D Hannebery (Syd)
1 A Treloar (Coll)

That was a tough game to judge. Fasolo, Sidebottom and Pendles could all steal a vote there.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 08, 2017, 08:12:39 AM
SYD v COLL
3 T Adams (Coll)
2 D Hannebery (Syd)
1 A Treloar (Coll)

That was a tough game to judge. Fasolo, Sidebottom and Pendles could all steal a vote there.


Agree with these votes byt very tough game to do. JPK and Grundy two more who could get votes.. so really throw a blanlet over about 7 guys any order.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 08, 2017, 08:35:29 AM
My 321 for last night are the same as Wato
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 08, 2017, 10:41:27 AM
Interesting...I had the same votes too, although I found it one of the hardest to pick!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on April 08, 2017, 01:39:50 PM
SYD v COLL
3 T Adams (Coll)
2 D Hannebery (Syd)
1 A Treloar (Coll)

That was a tough game to judge. Fasolo, Sidebottom and Pendles could all steal a vote there.


Agree with these votes byt very tough game to do. JPK and Grundy two more who could get votes.. so really throw a blanlet over about 7 guys any order.
Add Grundy in the mix to
Glad im not doing votes for this game haha
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: TomK on April 09, 2017, 01:07:18 PM
Sloane probably on 6 votes already, at $21 would be worth a bet
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on April 09, 2017, 01:49:21 PM
Struggling with Cats and Demons
got Danger and Selwood 3 and 2
1 could go anyway, alot of lesser known players with a chance
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 09, 2017, 11:38:22 PM
Round 3

Sydney v Collingwood
3   T.Adams (Coll)
2   D.Hannebery (Syd)
1   A.Treloar (Coll)
   
Nth Melb v GWS
3   J.Kelly (GWS)
2   J.Cameron (GWS)
1   T.Scully (GWS)
   
Richmond v West Coast
3   D.Martin (Rich)
2   A.Gaff (WC)
1   T.Cotchin (Rich)
   
Geelong v Melbourne
3   J.Selwood (Geel)
2   P.Dangerfield (Geel)
1   A.Neal-Bullen (Melb)
   
Port Adelaide v Adelaide
3   R.Sloane (Adel)
2   O.Wines (Port)
1   T.Walker (Adel)

Fremantle v Western Bulldogs
3   S.Hill (Freo)
2   N.Fyfe (Freo)
1   T.Liberatore (WB)
   
St Kilda v Brisbane
3   N.Riewoldt (StK)
2   L.Montagna (StK)
1   S.Martin (BL)
   
Carlton v Essendon
3   M.Murphy (Carl)
2   M.Kreuzer (Carl)
1   B.Gibbs (Carl)
   
Gold Coast v Hawthorn
3   G.Ablett (GC)
2   J.Martin (GC)
1   J.Witts (GC)

Leaderboard
8 Dangerfield
7 Wines, M.Murphy
6 Oliver, Kelly (GWS), D.Martin, Ablett
5 Z.Merrett, J.Selwood
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on April 10, 2017, 10:04:14 AM
How is everyone storing there Brownlow votes?
cant seem to find the online site which let you input your own from the last few seasons
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 10, 2017, 12:04:32 PM
Round 3

Syd 79 v Coll 80
3. T.Adams
2. D.Hannebery
1. A.Treloar

NM 67 v GWS 109
3. J.Kelly
2. C.Ward
1. J.Ziebell

Rich 76 v WC 65
3. D.Martin
2. T.Cotchin
1. A.Gaff

Geel 126 v Melb 97
3. P.Dangerfield
2. J.Selwood
1. N.Jones

PA 83 v Ade 100
3. R.Sloane
2. T.Walker
1. O.Wines

Fre 89 v WB 73
3. D.Mundy
2. N.Fyfe
1. S.Hill

St.K 107 v Bris 76
3. N.Riewoldt
2. L.Montagna
1. D.Beams

Carl 57 v Ess 42
3. M.Murphy
2. B.Gibbs
1. B.Goddard

GC 139 v Haw 53
3. G.Ablett
2. J.Martin
1. D.Swallow

Leaderboard

7-
P.Dangerfield


6-
D.Martin
O.Wines
R.Sloane


5-
Z.Merrett
D.Beams
M.Murphy

4-
M.Bontempelli
C.Oliver
J.Kelly (GWS)
A.Gaff
T.Cotchin
J.Selwood
N.Jones
N.Riewoldt
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 10, 2017, 01:19:21 PM
How is everyone storing there Brownlow votes?
cant seem to find the online site which let you input your own from the last few seasons

I input all my data into an excel file. I have separate spreadsheets for the leaderboard, team votes and each round.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 11, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
How is everyone storing there Brownlow votes?
cant seem to find the online site which let you input your own from the last few seasons

I input all my data into an excel file. I have separate spreadsheets for the leaderboard, team votes and each round.

Yep same here.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 12, 2017, 05:05:12 PM
Late round 3 for me below.  I'm thinking of correlating the fanfooty icons into Brownlow to see how fantasy effects the votes.  How would everyone rank the icons?  Star>Gun>Cherries>Magnet then Hulk/X-Factor pending on how much influence?

Swans vs Pies
3 – Adams
2 – Hannebery
3 – Treloar

Roos vs Giants
3 – Kelly
2 – Cameron
1 – Ziebell

Tigers vs Eagles
3 – Martin
2 – Cotchin
1 – Gaff

Cats vs Demons
3 – Selwood
2 – Dangerfield
1 – Hawkins

Dockers vs Bulldogs
3 – Mundy
2 – Fyfe
1 – Hill

Power vs Crows
3 – Sloane
2 – Wines
1 – Walker

Saints vs Lions
3 – Riewoldt
2 – Montagna
1 – Beams

Blues vs Bombers
3 – Murphy
2 – Gibbs
1 – Goddard

Suns vs Hawks
3 – Ablett
2 – Swallow
1 - Martin

Leaderboard
Dangerfield   8
Wines   7
Murphy   7
Martin   6
Sloane   6
Selwood   6
Merret   5
Cotchin   5
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 17, 2017, 06:15:43 PM
Round 4

West Coast v Sydney
3   L.Shuey (WCE)
2   E.Yeo (WCE)
1   A.Gaff (WCE)
   
Nth Melb v W.Bulldogs
3   L.Dahlhaus (WB)
2   B.Cunnington (NM)
1   M.Suckling (WB)
   
Melbourne v Fremantle
3   L.Neale (Freo)
2   D.Mundy (Freo)
1   D.Tyson (Melb)
   
Carlton v Gold Coast
3   T.Lynch (GC)
2   B.Matera (GC)
1   G.Ablett (GC)
   
Adelaide v Essendon
3   E.Betts (Adel)
2   R.Sloane (Adel)
1   T.Walker (Adel)

GWS v Port Adelaide
3   T.Scully (GWS)
2   J.Patton (GWS)
1   D.Shiel (GWS)

Collingwood v St Kilda
3   B.Grundy (Coll)
2   S.Ross (Stk)
1   N.Riewoldt (Stk)
   
Brisbane v Richmond
3   T.Rockliff (BL)
2   J.Riewoldt (Rich)
1   J.Castagna (Rich)
   
Hawthorn v Geelong
3   S.Motlop (Geel)
2   M.Duncan (Geel)
1   S.Menegola (Geel)

Leaderboard after Round 5

Dangerfield 8
Wines 7
M.Murphy 7
Ablett 7
Oliver 6
D.Martin 6
Kelly (GWS) 6
Shuey 6
Sloane 6
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 17, 2017, 06:20:33 PM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: meow meow on April 17, 2017, 06:29:18 PM
Hendo stiff to not get a vote today!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on April 17, 2017, 06:44:38 PM
Geary was BOG, wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get a vote though
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 17, 2017, 07:11:27 PM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on April 17, 2017, 08:16:49 PM
Murphy could go close for the 1 in the Carlton game. He and Lynch were the 2 best on at HT.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 17, 2017, 08:47:12 PM
Round 4
Round 4                  
Eagles vs Swans   Shuey   3   Yeo   2   Priddis   1
Roos vs Dogs   Dahlhaus   3   Bontempelli   2   Cunnington   1
Demons vs Dockers   Neale   3   Mundy   2   Garlett   1
Giants vs Power   Scully   3   Patton   2   Kelly   1
Blues vs Suns   Lynch   3   Matera   2   Murphy   1
Crows vs Bombers   Betts   3   Sloane   2   Walker   1
Pies vs Saints   Roberton   3   Grundy   2   Riewoldt   1
Lions vs Tigers   Rockliff   3   Grigg   2   S. Martin   1
Hawks vs Cats   Duncan   3   Motlop   2   Selwood   1

Leaderboard after round 4

Dangerfield   8
Murphy   8
Sloane   8
Wines   7
Selwood   7
Rockliff   7
Martin   6
Shuey   6
Bontempelli   6
Mundy   5
Kelly   5
Merret   5
Cotchin   5
Riewoldt   5
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on April 18, 2017, 01:20:33 AM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 18, 2017, 10:43:06 AM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game

I only have him on the 3 votes for the season, cant see him being much higher than that.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 18, 2017, 10:48:13 AM
Round 4

WC 91 v Syd 65
3. E.Yeo
2. L.Shuey
1. M.Priddis

NM 86 v WB 89
3. L.Dahlhaus
2. B.Cunnington
1. M.Bontempelli

Melb 104 v Fre 106
3. L.Neale
2. D.Mundy
1. J.Garlett

GWS 112 v PA 81
3. T.Scully
2. D.Shiel
1. J.Patton

Carl 82 v GC 108
3. T.Lynch
2. B.Matera
1. J.Martin

Ade 153 v Ess 88
3. E.Betts
2. T.Walker
1. R.Sloane

Coll 55 v St.K 69
3. D.Roberton
2. B.Grundy
1. S.Ross

Bris 67 v Rich 119
3. T.Rockliff
2. J.Riewoldt
1. S.Grigg

Haw 48 v Geel 134
3. M.Duncan
2. S.Motlop
1. J.Selwood

Leaderboard
7-
P.Dangerfield
R.Sloane

6-
D.Martin
O.Wines
T.Rockliff
M.Duncan

5-
Z.Merrett
D.Beams
M.Murphy
L.Shuey
D.Mundy
J.Selwood

4-
M.Bontempelli
C.Oliver
J.Kelly (GWS)
A.Gaff
T.Cotchin
N.Jones
N.Riewoldt
E.Yeo
T.Walker
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on April 18, 2017, 12:17:49 PM
My current leaderboard:

Dangerfield 9
Dusty, Wines, Sloaney 7
Shuey 6
Zerrett, Cotch, Beams, Murphy, Bont, Mundy, Adams, Rocky 5
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 18, 2017, 01:10:29 PM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game

Yes. Clear BOG. 36 disposals, 10 clearances, 2 goals.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 18, 2017, 01:16:53 PM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game

Yes. Clear BOG. 36 disposals, 10 clearances, 2 goals.

Easily BOG, all 3 guys who put full round votes up for round 3 also had him with the 3 votes against he Hawks...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on April 18, 2017, 01:20:11 PM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game

Yes. Clear BOG. 36 disposals, 10 clearances, 2 goals.
Yeah I gave Gaz best on against the Hawks as well, along with 1 against the Blues. Didn't have him polling in round 1 though, even with his voting history would be surprised if he got a vote.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on April 18, 2017, 01:47:08 PM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game

Yes. Clear BOG. 36 disposals, 10 clearances, 2 goals.
Yeah I gave Gaz best on against the Hawks as well, along with 1 against the Blues. Didn't have him polling in round 1 though, even with his voting history would be surprised if he got a vote.
Yep i have GAZ 3 last week too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on April 23, 2017, 05:57:07 PM
J.Selwood 6 votes

cow
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 23, 2017, 07:31:38 PM
J.Selwood 6 votes

cow

moo
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 23, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
J.Selwood 6 votes

cow

moo

Selwood 8 by my count!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on April 23, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
J.Selwood 6 votes

cow

moo

Selwood 8 by my count!
Aha ;D

Think I've got him on 7 atm though :p
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 24, 2017, 12:53:25 PM
Round 5 votes.

Port Adelaide v Carlton
3 R.Gray (PTA)
2 B.Ebert (PTA)
1 O.Wines (PTA)

Bulldogs v Brisbane
3 J.Macrae (WB)
2 D.Zorko (BL)
1 T.McLean (WB)

Gold Coast v Adelaide
3 R.Sloane (Adel)
2 R.Laird (Adel)
1 M.Crouch (Adel)

Sydney v GWS
3 J.Cameron (GWS)
2 S.Mumford (GWS)
1 T.Scully (GWS)

Fremantle v Nth Melbourne
3 N.Fyfe (Freo)
2 B.Cunnington (NM)
1 D.Mundy (Freo)

St Kilda v Geelong
3 J.Selwood (Geel)
2 P.Dangerfield (Geel)
1 S.Ross (Stk)

Hawthorn v West Coast
3 C.Rioli (Haw)
2 T.Mitchell (Haw)
1 B.McEvoy (Haw)

Richmond v Melbourne
3 J.Riewoldt (Rich)
2 M.Hibberd (Melb)
1 C.Oliver (Melb)

Essendon v Collingwood
3 J.Daniher (Ess)
2 A.Treloar (Coll)
1 M.Hurley (Ess)

Leaderboard

Dangerfield 10
Sloane 9
Wines, Selwood 8
M.Murphy, Ablett, Oliver 7
Kelly (GWS), D.Martin, Shuey, R.Gray, Cameron 6
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Gigantor on April 27, 2017, 12:05:30 AM
Who said the Brownlow was a midfielders award  ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 27, 2017, 12:08:33 AM
Duncan will get votes before Ross
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on April 27, 2017, 12:30:52 AM
I don't reckon Danger should get votes either

granted I didn't really watch him but yeah, didn't really notice him. did notice Selwood raping us though. that's the definition of a 3 vote game
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on April 27, 2017, 03:36:13 AM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game

Yes. Clear BOG. 36 disposals, 10 clearances, 2 goals.

At 60% DE where Matera went at like 90% and kicked 6 goals. I'd put $1000 on it that Matera gets the 3. Will see at the end of the year though
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Rusty00 on April 27, 2017, 10:56:54 AM
I'm not doubting it, but I find it hard to believe Ablett can be in the mix

Just feels like he has been non existent so far

Marginal in round 1 but with his voting history gave him BOG in round 1 - he will get votes.

Was terrible in round 2.

Was clear BOG v Hawthorn and the standout for the 1 vote against Carlton with the clear 3 to Lynch and clear 2 to Matera.

Clear BOG against Hawthorn? Matera booted 6 goals with 20 odd possessions that game

Yes. Clear BOG. 36 disposals, 10 clearances, 2 goals.

At 60% DE where Matera went at like 90% and kicked 6 goals. I'd put $1000 on it that Matera gets the 3. Will see at the end of the year though
I'd put a $1000 on the fact that the umpires don't look at DE stats when voting :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on April 27, 2017, 11:12:35 AM
My current leaderboard:

Dangerfield 9
Dusty, Wines, Sloaney 7
Shuey 6
Zerrett, Cotch, Beams, Murphy, Bont, Mundy, Adams, Rocky 5
Danger 11
Sloaney 10
Wines 9
Shuey, Dusty 8
Greene, Mundy, Jelwood 7
Gray, Fyfe 6
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 27, 2017, 11:28:03 AM
I'll post my numbers up tonight.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 27, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
So everyone else is giving Danger votes this week? I cant see it.. was good in the last quarter but wasnt in the top 10-15 on the ground at 3/4 time.

Selwood the easy 3. And I have Tuohy, Ross, Duncan and possibly Steven ahead of him too.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on April 27, 2017, 01:38:14 PM
So everyone else is giving Danger votes this week? I cant see it.. was good in the last quarter but wasnt in the top 10-15 on the ground at 3/4 time.

Selwood the easy 3. And I have Tuohy, Ross, Duncan and possibly Steven ahead of him too.
It's more of what I think the umpires will do, as opposed to who I would actually be giving the votes to myself :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 27, 2017, 01:56:56 PM
So everyone else is giving Danger votes this week? I cant see it.. was good in the last quarter but wasnt in the top 10-15 on the ground at 3/4 time.

Selwood the easy 3. And I have Tuohy, Ross, Duncan and possibly Steven ahead of him too.
It's more of what I think the umpires will do, as opposed to who I would actually be giving the votes to myself :P

I do the same but I still dont have him in my votes this week, I habe him in my top few currently but wouldnt be investing any money on him yet at $4.

Selwood at 23s best bet at the moment for me.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 27, 2017, 02:11:36 PM
So everyone else is giving Danger votes this week? I cant see it.. was good in the last quarter but wasnt in the top 10-15 on the ground at 3/4 time.

Selwood the easy 3. And I have Tuohy, Ross, Duncan and possibly Steven ahead of him too.
It's more of what I think the umpires will do, as opposed to who I would actually be giving the votes to myself :P

I do the same but I still dont have him in my votes this week, I habe him in my top few currently but wouldnt be investing any money on him yet at $4.

Selwood at 23s best bet at the moment for me.

Yep, I got on Selwood and power boosted it to $31 with SB.  I can't remember, but I think I gave Danger only 1 vote or none at all.  Selwood and Duncan 2 best on ground for me.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 27, 2017, 03:17:01 PM
PA 137 v Carl 47
3. R.Gray
2. O.Wines
1. B.Ebert

WB 122 v Bris 90
3. J.Macrae
2. D.Zorko
1. L.Dahlhaus

GC 86 v Ade 153
3. R.Sloane
2. M.Crouch
1. R.Laird

Syd 63 v GWS 105
3. T.Greene
2. J.Cameron
1. S.Mumford

Fre 67 v NM 62
3. N.Fyfe
2. B.Cunnington
1. L.Neale

St.K 88 v Geel 126
3. J.Selwood
2. S.Ross
1. Z.Tuohy

Haw 125 v WC 74
3. T.Mitchell
2. B.McEvoy
1. J.Gunston

Rich 88 v Melb 75
3. J.Riewoldt
2. C.Oliver
1. MHibberd

Ess 100 v Coll 82
3. J.Daniher
2. A.Treloar
1. D.Heppell

Leaders

10-
R.Sloane

9-

8-
O.Wines
J.Selwood

7-
P.Dangerfield

6-
D.Martin, T.Rockliff, M.Duncan
R.Gray,T..Greene, C.Oliver

5-
Z.Merrett, M.Murphy T.Mitchell
L.Shuey, D.Mundy, N.Fyfe
J.Riewoldt, A.Treloar, D.Beams
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on April 27, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
I'm loading up on Sloaney to be leading the Brownlow after Round 5.

Easily 3 bog games and should poll 1 in another also.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 27, 2017, 03:46:34 PM
I'm loading up on Sloaney to be leading the Brownlow after Round 5.

Easily 3 bog games and should poll 1 in another also.

Good bet. Comfortable leader to me right now on 10 votes
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on April 27, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
I'm loading up on Sloaney to be leading the Brownlow after Round 5.

Easily 3 bog games and should poll 1 in another also.

Good bet. Comfortable leader to me right now on 10 votes

I reckon it is a good bet. Yes I have Danger in front but no guarantee to get BOG in round 1 and the votes v St Kilda apart from Selwood BOG are a lottery. When the game was on the line in the 4th term Danger was clear 2nd BOG and has voting history.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 27, 2017, 08:55:30 PM
Round 5                  
Power vs Blues   Gray   3   Ebert   2   Cripps   1
Dogs vs Lions   Zorko   3   Dahlhaus   2   Martin   1
Suns vs Crows   Sloane   3   Laird   2   M. Crouch   1
Swans vs Giants   Cameron   3   Mumford   2   Ward   1
Dockers vs Roos   Fyfe   3   Cunnngton   2   Hill   1
Saints vs Cats   Selwood   3   Duncan   2   Dangerfield   1
Hawks vs Eagles   Mitchell   3   McEvoy   2   Rioli   1
Tigers vs Dees   Riewoldt   3   Martin   2   Hibberd   1
Bombers vs Pies   Daniher   3   Merrett   2   Treloar   1

11 - Sloane
9 - Dangerfield, Selwood
8 - Murphy, Martin
7 - Wines, Rockliff, Merrett, Cameron
6 - Shuey, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Gray
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: tbagrocks on April 28, 2017, 09:52:54 PM
I'd say there's only five players that can win (his time last year Rd 6,  said the top 8 will not change and it didn't)

in order with no one else challenging

Rory Laird
Dustin Martin
Paddy Dangerflog
Nat Fyfe
Robbie Gray

Nobody else can win Charlie!

Guys that can challenge those for top 3.
Bont
Murphy
Wines
Tom Mitchell
Treloar
Selwood
Dayne Beams
Luke SHuey
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 28, 2017, 10:57:12 PM
I'd say there's only five players that can win (his time last year Rd 6,  said the top 8 will not change and it didn't)

in order with no one else challenging

Rory Laird
Dustin Martin
Paddy Dangerflog
Nat Fyfe
Robbie Gray

Nobody else can win Charlie!

Guys that can challenge those for top 3.
Bont
Murphy
Wines
Tom Mitchell
Treloar
Selwood
Dayne Beams
Luke SHuey

You must mean Rory Sloane not Rory Laird..? Id say Bont and Selwood can win it also.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on April 29, 2017, 01:05:29 AM
Haha yeah surely teabs meant Sloaney! :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 29, 2017, 10:05:46 AM
I'd say there's only five players that can win (his time last year Rd 6,  said the top 8 will not change and it didn't)

in order with no one else challenging

Rory Laird
Dustin Martin
Paddy Dangerflog
Nat Fyfe
Robbie Gray

Nobody else can win Charlie!

Guys that can challenge those for top 3.
Bont
Murphy
Wines
Tom Mitchell
Treloar
Selwood
Dayne Beams
Luke SHuey

You must mean Rory Sloane not Rory Laird..? Id say Bont and Selwood can win it also.

Disagree with your list, don't think Gray or Fyfe will be up there once their teams come back to earth.   Gray has to kick a bag for him to get votes cos he's not getting much mid time.

If we're calling a top 5 at this stage to be there at the end then: Danger, Sloane, Jelwood, Bontempelli and Dusty.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 29, 2017, 10:28:59 AM
Giants vs Dogs was tough...Bont, Greene, Dahl, Williams, Shaw, Mumford, Smith, Haynes, Daniel, Macrae, Cameron all possibilities of polling to be honest!  Does Greene get votes if he's reported?  Macrae got loads of free kicks and sometimes that helps me determine whether they get votes...

3 - Bont
2 - Greene
1 - ?

 ???
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on April 29, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
Giants vs Dogs was tough...Bont, Greene, Dahl, Williams, Shaw, Mumford, Smith, Haynes, Daniel, Macrae, Cameron all possibilities of polling to be honest!  Does Greene get votes if he's reported?  Macrae got loads of free kicks and sometimes that helps me determine whether they get votes...

3 - Bont
2 - Greene
1 - ?

 ???
Wouldn't surprise me if Cameron got the final vote
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 29, 2017, 11:31:21 AM
Giants vs Dogs was tough...Bont, Greene, Dahl, Williams, Shaw, Mumford, Smith, Haynes, Daniel, Macrae, Cameron all possibilities of polling to be honest!  Does Greene get votes if he's reported?  Macrae got loads of free kicks and sometimes that helps me determine whether they get votes...

3 - Bont
2 - Greene
1 - ?

 ???
Wouldn't surprise me if Cameron got the final vote

Thats what I'm leaning towards...1st two prob correct yeah?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 29, 2017, 11:40:47 AM
probably Shaw imo
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 29, 2017, 11:56:03 AM
probably Shaw imo

Possibly, but I thought he butchered it a fair bit.  Thought guy like Williams, Wilson and Haynes were all better, he just racked up cheap touches like he usually does.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 30, 2017, 07:57:56 AM
probably Shaw imo

Possibly, but I thought he butchered it a fair bit.  Thought guy like Williams, Wilson and Haynes were all better, he just racked up cheap touches like he usually does.

Shaw, Macrae, Williams and Haynes were the ones I considered. Easy goals for Cameron this week which dont look as good, thought Patton was the better forward. Between Haymes and Williams, I went Haynes, lots of eye catching intercepts and marks
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: meow meow on April 30, 2017, 08:36:15 AM
3 time Gary
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 30, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
probably Shaw imo

Possibly, but I thought he butchered it a fair bit.  Thought guy like Williams, Wilson and Haynes were all better, he just racked up cheap touches like he usually does.

Shaw, Macrae, Williams and Haynes were the ones I considered. Easy goals for Cameron this week which dont look as good, thought Patton was the better forward. Between Haymes and Williams, I went Haynes, lots of eye catching intercepts and marks

Agree, but you've also got to take into account "known" names and previous polling, which is why Cameron or Shaw get the vote for me.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 30, 2017, 08:39:58 PM
Sloane building a nice lead...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on April 30, 2017, 08:40:31 PM
Sloane bog again

13 votes now imo
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on April 30, 2017, 10:06:28 PM
Sloane bog again

13 votes now imo

Yep thereabouts, I've got him on 14 and Danger next on 9.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on April 30, 2017, 10:53:20 PM
probably Shaw imo

Possibly, but I thought he butchered it a fair bit.  Thought guy like Williams, Wilson and Haynes were all better, he just racked up cheap touches like he usually does.

Shaw, Macrae, Williams and Haynes were the ones I considered. Easy goals for Cameron this week which dont look as good, thought Patton was the better forward. Between Haymes and Williams, I went Haynes, lots of eye catching intercepts and marks

Agree, but you've also got to take into account "known" names and previous polling, which is why Cameron or Shaw get the vote for me.

Shaw is a completely wowful vote getter though, even in his very best games, and Cameron not much better by memory though not as sure.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 01, 2017, 02:32:08 AM
Why is Ablett $21? Definitely worth a couple of pineapples.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 01, 2017, 02:33:33 AM
Sloane bog again

13 votes now imo

Toss of the coin with Sauce IMO. I have given Sloane the 3 however.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 01, 2017, 03:11:52 AM
Round 6 votes.

GWS v W.Bulldogs
3 M.Bontempelli (WB)
2 S.Mumford (GWS)
1 J.Macrae (WB)

Hawthorn v St Kilda
3 D.Roberton (Stk)
2 J.Steele (Stk)
1 J.Steven (Stk)

Carlton v Sydney
3 S.Docherty (Carl)
2 K.Simpson (Carl)
1 P.Cripps (Carl)

Brisbane v Port Adelaide
3 C.Dixon (Pt)
2 C.Wingard (Pt)
1 B.Ebert (Pt)

Nth Melbourne v Gold Coast
3 G.Ablett (GC)
2 B.Brown (NM)
1 S.Higgins (NM)

West Coast V Fremantle
3 J.Kennedy (WC)
2 E.Yeo (WC)
1 S.Mitchell (WC)

Essendon v Melbourne (no one deserves votes in this game, help needed for this one. Have NFI)
3 J.Watts (Melb)
2 C.Pedersen (Melb)
1 T.McDonald (Melb)

Geelong v Collingwood
3 S.Pendlebury (Coll)
2 T.Adams (Coll)
1 M.Duncan (Geel)

Adelaide v Richmond
3 R.Sloane (Adel)
2 S.Jacobs (Adel)
1 M.Crouch (Adel)

Leaderboard after 6 rounds

12 Sloane
10 Dangefield, Ablett
8 Wines, Selwood
7 M.Murphy, Oliver, Yeo
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 01, 2017, 08:21:24 AM
Why is Ablett $21? Definitely worth a couple of pineapples.

I have Ablett on 6 to Sloanes 13 compared to your 10-12 on your count. I think he is still a way off, but one who could definately go on a run of 3 vote games.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 01, 2017, 08:24:28 AM
GWS 75 v WB 73
3. M. Bontempelli
2. T.Green
1. N.Haynes

Haw 55 v StK 130
3. D.Roberton
2. N.Riewoldt
1. J.Steven

Carl 97 v Syd 78
3. S.Docherty
2. K.Simpson
1. P.Cripps

Bris 67 v PA 150
3. C.Dixon
2. C.Wingard
1. S.Powel-Pepper

NM 107 v GC 94
3. G.Ablett
2. B.Brown
1. S.Higgins

WC 103 v Freo 62
3. J.Kennedy
2. M.Priddis
1. E.Yeo

Ess 74 v Melb 112
3. J.Watts
2. T.McDonald
1. C.Oliver

Geel 78 v Coll 107
3. S.Pendlebury
2. T.Adams
1. J.Crisp

Ade 140 v Rich 64
3. R.Sloane
2. S.Jacobs
1. M.Crouch

Leaders:
13-
R.Sloane

8-
O.Wines
J.Selwood
T.Greene
M.Bontempelli

7-
P.Dangerfield
C.Oliver

6-
D.Martin, T.Rockliff, M.Duncan
R.Gray, D.Roberton, S.Pendlebury
N.Riewoldt, G.Ablett JJ.Kennedy

5-
Z.Merrett, M.Murphy T.Mitchell
L.Shuey, D.Mundy, N.Fyfe
J.Riewoldt, A.Treloar, D.Beams
E.Yeo T.Adams
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 02, 2017, 11:50:05 AM
Round 6 Votes:

GWS vs Doggies
3. Dylan Shiel
2. Marcus Bontempelli
1. Caleb Daniel

Hawks vs Saints
3. Dylan Roberton
2. Nick Riewoldt
1. Jack Steven

Blues vs Swans
3. Sam Docherty
2. Kade Simpson
1. Patrick Cripps

Lions vs Port
3. Charlie Dixon
2. Chad Wingard
1. Brad Ebert

North vs Suns
3. Gary Ablett
2. Ben Brown
1. Shaun Higgins

Iggs vs Freo
3. Josh J Kennedy
2. Elliott Yeo
1. Matthew Priddis

Bombers vs Dees
3. Jack Watts
2. Jordan Lewis
1. Tom McDonald

Cats vs Pies
3. Scott Pendlebury
2. Taylor Adams
1. Jack Crisp

Crows vs Tigs
3. Rory Sloane
2. Sam Jacobs
1. Matt Crouch

Leaderboard:

13 - Sloaney
11 - Danger
9 - Wines
8 - Shuey, Dusty
7 - Greene (ineligible), Mundy, Jelwood, Bont, Ablett, Adams
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 08, 2017, 08:37:50 AM
StK 108 v GWS 85
3. J.Steven
2. J.Billings
1. B.Acres

NM 145 v Ade 86
3. J.Waite
2. B.Cunnington
1. M.Wood

Carl 79 v Coll 56
3. M.Murphy
2. S.P- Seaton
1. P.Cripps

PA 87 v WC 97
3. C.Dixon
2. Y.Yeo
1. L.Shuey

WB 80 v Rich 75
3. M.Bontempelli
2. L.Dahlhaus
1. D.Martin

GC 124 v Geel 89
3. A.Hall
2. P.Dangerfield
1. G.Ablett

Syd 135 v Bris 81
3. L.Franklin
2. Z.Jones
1. I.Heeney

Melb 91 v Haw 94
3. J.Viney
2. J.Roughead
1. T.Mitchell

Fre 116 v Ess 79
3. L.Neale
2. B.Hill
1. Z.Merrett

Leaders

13-
R.Sloane

12-

11-
M.Bontempelli

10-

9-
P.Dangerfield

8-
O.Wines
J.Selwood
T.Greene*
M.Murphy

7-
C.Oliver, E.Yeo, D.Martin
G.Ablett, L.Neale

6-
T.Rockliff, M.Duncan, T.Mitchell
R.Gray, D.Roberton, S.Pendlebury
N.Riewoldt, JJ.Kennedy, Z.Merrett
B.Cunnington, L.Shuey, L.Dahlhaus
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 08, 2017, 09:45:43 PM
Round 7

Saints vs GWS
3 – Jack Steven
2 – Jack Billings
1 – Blake Acres

Roos vs Crows
3 – Jarrad Waite
2 – Ben Cunnington
1 – Mason Wood

Pies vs Blues
3 – Marc Murphy
2 – Sam Petrevski-Seton
1 – Matthew Kreuzer

Power vs Eagles
3 – Elliott Yeo
2 – Luke Shuey
1 – Chad Wingard

Dogs vs Tigers
3 – Bontempelli
2 – Martin
1 – Dahlhaus

Suns vs Cats
3 – Aaron Hall
2 – Gary Ablett
1 – Mitch Duncan

Swans vs Lions
3 – Lance Franklin
2 – Zak Jones
1 – Isaac Heeney

Dees vs Hawks
3 – Jack Viney
2 – Tom Mitchell
1 – Ben McEvoy

Dockers vs Bombers
3 – Brad Hill
2 – Lachie Neale
1 – Nathan Fyfe

Leaderboard
Sloane - 14
Bontempelli - 12
Murphy - 11
Martin - 10
Yeo - 10
Danger - 9
Selwood - 9
Shuey - 8
Cameron - 8
Ablett - 8

The big mover for me was Yeo!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 08, 2017, 10:01:54 PM
Round 7
St Kilda v GWS
3  J.Steven (Stk)
2  D.Shiel (GWS)
1  J.Billings (StK)
   
Nth Melbourne v Adelaide
3  J.Waite (NM)
2  B.Cunnington (NM)
1  M.Wood (NM)
   
   Collingwood v Carlton
3  S.Petrevski-Seton (Carl)
2  P.Cripps (Carl)
1  M.Murphy (Carl)
   
Port Adelaide v West Coast
3  E.Yeo (WC)
2  P.Ryder (PTA)
1  C.Wingard (PTA)
   
Gold Coast v Geelong
3  A.Hall (GC)
2  P.Dangerfield (Geel)
1  J.Witts (GC)
   
W.Bulldogs v Richmond
3  M.Bontempelli (WB)
2  D.Martin (Rich)
1  T.Boyd (WB)
   
Sydney v Brisbane
3  L.Franklin (Syd)
2  T.Rockliff (BL)
1  Z.Jones (Syd)

Melbourne v Hawthorn   
3 J.Viney (Melb)   
2 B.McEvoy (Haw)   
1 T.Mitchell (Haw)   
      
Fremantle v Essendon   
3 L.Neale (Fre)   
2 B.Hill (Fre)   
1 M.Hurley (Ess)   
      

Leaderboard


12 - Sloane, Dangerfield
10 - Ablett, Yeo
9 - Bontempelli
8 - Wines, Selwood, M.Murphy, D.Martin
7 - Oliver

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Spite on May 09, 2017, 12:11:47 AM
Gold Coast v Geelong seemed to toss up a lot of names. The papers even gave Swallow 3 because of his 20 contested possessions!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Ricochet on May 09, 2017, 12:13:41 AM
I'm on GAJ to win it again 8)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 09, 2017, 10:07:26 AM
I'm on GAJ to win it again 8)

The last two weeks really starting to look like a top 5-10 player in the AFL again for the first time in 2 years I think.

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Jukes on May 09, 2017, 04:39:33 PM
I'm on GAJ to win it again 8)

The last two weeks really starting to look like a top 5-10 player in the AFL again for the first time in 2 years I think.

Nothing says great player like having 9 clangers in a game compared to 6 contested possessions ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 09, 2017, 05:20:57 PM
Round 7 Votes

Saints vs GWS
3. Jack Steven
2. Jack Billings
1. Blake Acres

Roos vs Crows
3. Jarrad Waite
2. Ben Cunnington
1. Mason Wood

Pies vs Blues
3. Sam Petrevski-Seton
2. Marc Murphy
1. Ben Reid

Port vs Eagles
3. Elliott Yeo
2. Luke Shuey
1. Charlie Dixon

Dogs vs Tigs
3. Marcus Bontempelli
2. Dustin Martin
1. Luke Dahlhaus

Suns vs Cats
3. Aaron Hall
2. Gary Ablett
1. Patrick Dangerfield

Swans vs Lions
3. Lance Franklin
2. Tom Rockliff
1. Zac Jones

Demons vs Hawks
3. Jack Viney
2. Jarryd Roughead
1. Tom Mitchell

Freo vs Bombers
3. Lachie Neale
2. Bradley Hill
1. Nat Fyfe



Leaderboard:

13 - Sloaney
12 - Danger
10 - Shuey, Bont, Dusty
9 - Wines, Yeo, Ablett
7 - Mundy, Jelwood, Rocky, Fyfe, Adams, Murphy, Greene (ineligible)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 09, 2017, 05:23:09 PM
Gold Coast v Geelong seemed to toss up a lot of names. The papers even gave Swallow 3 because of his 20 contested possessions!
Yeah, was tough for me to leave out Swallow, Duncan, Lynch, and Harbrow
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 14, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
Yeo at $41!?  Don't mind if I do, have him on 12 votes behind Sloane on 14.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 14, 2017, 10:31:49 PM
Round 8                  
Eagles vs Dogs   Gaff   3   Yeo   2   Daniel   1
Hawks vs Lions   Mitchell   3   Rockliff   2   Martin   1
Saints vs Blues   Billings   3   Cripps   2   Murphy   1
Giants vs Pies   Kelly   3   Cameron   2   Adams   1
Bombers vs Cats   Merrett   3   Daniher   2   Dangerfield   1
Crows vs Dees   Viney   3   Jones   2   Laird   1
Tigers vs Dockers   Walters   3   Hill   2   Martin   1
Power vs Suns   Boak   3   Westhoff   2   Hall   1
Roos vs Swans   Kennedy   3   Hannebery   2   Newman   1
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 15, 2017, 12:22:47 PM
Yeo at $41!?  Don't mind if I do, have him on 12 votes behind Sloane on 14.

Ive got him on 7 behind Sloane on 13

Ive got T.Mitchell and L.Neale on 9 votes each. T.Mitchell is $80 and Neale $100, Im liking those two at odds better!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 15, 2017, 12:25:49 PM
Round 8 votes

WC 69 v WB 61
3. S.Mitchell
2. A.Gaff
1. M.Bontempelli

Haw 113 v Bris 75
3. T.Mitchell
2. T.Rockliff
1. L.Hodge

StK 85 v Carl 66
3. J.Billings
2. P.Cripps
1. S.Ross

GWS 102 v Coll 99
3. J.Kelly
2. J.Cameron
1. T.Adams

Ess 100 v Gee 93
3. Z.Merrett
2. J.Daniher
1. D.Heppell

Ade 66 v Melb 107
3. N.Jones
2. J.Viney
1. C.Oliver

Rick 70 v Fre 72
3. M.Walters
2. L.Neale
1. C.Blakely

GC 38 v PA 110
3. T.Boak
2. B.Ebert
1. J.Polec

NM 78 v Syd 120
3. JP.Kennedy
2. L.Parker
1. D.Hannebery

Leaderboard

13-
R.Sloane

12-
M.Bontempelli

11-


10-

9-
P.Dangerfield
T.Mitchell
Z.Merrett
L.Neale

8-
O.Wines
J.Selwood
T.Greene*
M.Murphy
T.Rockliff
C.Oliver

7-
E.Yeo
D.Martin
G.Ablett
J.Kelly
N.Jones

6-
M.Duncan, J.Cameron, T.Adams
R.Gray, D.Roberton, S.Pendlebury
N.Riewoldt, JJ.Kennedy, A.Gaff
B.Cunnington, L.Shuey, L.Dahlhaus
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on May 15, 2017, 12:29:02 PM
don't think Bont will be anywhere near the votes in the Eagles game, dmac

I thought he was shower
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 15, 2017, 12:49:09 PM
don't think Bont will be anywhere near the votes in the Eagles game, dmac

I thought he was shower
First half he was very good, disappeared after that though. Will be a few players who could get the 1 vote. I'll have mine up soon, missed a few games though cause was pretty busy this weekend, usually can watch most of em at my GF's haha ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 15, 2017, 01:12:00 PM
Yeo at $41!?  Don't mind if I do, have him on 12 votes behind Sloane on 14.

Ive got him on 7 behind Sloane on 13

Ive got T.Mitchell and L.Neale on 9 votes each. T.Mitchell is $80 and Neale $100, Im liking those two at odds better!

Yep I scrolled through last night and Mitchell is super juicy!  Funny how Sam Mitchell and previous pollers are so low!  :o
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 15, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
Round 8 Votes

Iggs vs Doggies
3. Sam Mitchell
2. Andrew Gaff
1. Elliott Yeo

Hawks vs Lions
3. Tom Mitchell
2. Tom Rockliff
1. Dayne Zorko

Saints vs Blues
3. Jack Billings
2. Patrick Cripps
1. Seb Ross

Giants vs Pies
3. Josh Kelly
2. Jeremy Cameron
1. Steele Sidebottom

Bombers vs Cats
3. Zach Merrett
2. Joe Daniher
1. Orazio Fantasia

Crows vs Demons
3. Jack Viney
2. Nathan Jones
1. Clayton Oliver

Tigs vs Freo
3. Michael Walters
2. Brad Hill
1. Dustin Martin

Suns vs Port
3. Travis Boak
2. Jared Polec
1. Jasper Pittard

Roos vs Swans
3. Josh P Kennedy
2. Daniel Hannebery
1. Luke Parker

Went Yeo the 1 vote over Caleb cause Iggs won. Zorko 1 vote for Hawks/Lions cause no other Hawks players really stood out to me during the match, good team game from them. Ross 1 vote over Murphy cause Saints won, Murph was slightly better but reckon umps will go with Ross. Sidey just over Adams with his 3 goals. 1 vote for the Bombers/Cats could go to quite a few guys. Didn't get to see the Crows/Dees game unfortunately, so mostly going off game stats there. 1 vote for Tigs/Freo could go to a few guys, going with Dusty though. Port had sooo many good players, hard to pick who will get the votes. Wingard, Hoff, Ebert, Wines all very good as well. Harbrow was insane for the Suns, Hall also decent. Missed half the Swans/Roos game as I was driving to my uncles, but wouldn't be surprised if one of Newman, Heeney, or Reid picked up a vote.



Leaderboard:

13 - Sloaney
12 - Danger
11 - Dusty
10 - Shuey, Bont, Yeo
9 - Wines, Ablett, TMitch, Rocky
8 - Zerrett
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on May 15, 2017, 03:58:46 PM
Yeo at $41!?  Don't mind if I do, have him on 12 votes behind Sloane on 14.

Ive got him on 7 behind Sloane on 13

Ive got T.Mitchell and L.Neale on 9 votes each. T.Mitchell is $80 and Neale $100, Im liking those two at odds better!

Yep I scrolled through last night and Mitchell is super juicy!  Funny how Sam Mitchell and previous pollers are so low!  :o
I stand to win around $800 i think if Mitchell wins ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Spite on May 16, 2017, 12:22:06 AM
Yeo at $41!?  Don't mind if I do, have him on 12 votes behind Sloane on 14.

Ive got him on 7 behind Sloane on 13

Ive got T.Mitchell and L.Neale on 9 votes each. T.Mitchell is $80 and Neale $100, Im liking those two at odds better!

Yep I scrolled through last night and Mitchell is super juicy!  Funny how Sam Mitchell and previous pollers are so low!  :o
I stand to win around $800 i think if Mitchell wins ;)

I put $3 on titch in the preseason at $41. For him to play like that actually blow out in his odds is crazy
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 16, 2017, 09:23:05 AM
Ebert won the BOG medal. Pretty safe to assume he'll get the 3 yet most of you don't have him getting one let alone three
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Nige on May 16, 2017, 10:20:26 AM
Ebert won the BOG medal. Pretty safe to assume he'll get the 3 yet most of you don't have him getting one let alone three
He really shouldn't have through. There were a few players who had better games. Was it the umpires who actually voted for the BOG medal? Didn't think it was.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 16, 2017, 10:52:06 AM
Ebert won the BOG medal. Pretty safe to assume he'll get the 3 yet most of you don't have him getting one let alone three
He really shouldn't have through. There were a few players who had better games. Was it the umpires who actually voted for the BOG medal? Didn't think it was.

I gave him the 2 but was a very tough match. Very even performance by the top 5-6 players.

The 1 vote in WB v WC was tough, I couldn't give Yeo votes, think he really butchered it, but couldve gone to any of 5 or 6 others. Cinfident on Mitchell and Gaff though.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 16, 2017, 10:59:22 AM
Ebert won the BOG medal. Pretty safe to assume he'll get the 3 yet most of you don't have him getting one let alone three
He really shouldn't have through. There were a few players who had better games. Was it the umpires who actually voted for the BOG medal? Didn't think it was.

How often does a player who won a BOG medal not end up getting the 3 votes? Might have happened, but would be very rare

I'm not saying Ebert was BOG, but getting the medal means he is very likely to get the 3 votes
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 16, 2017, 11:17:23 AM
Ebert won the BOG medal. Pretty safe to assume he'll get the 3 yet most of you don't have him getting one let alone three
He really shouldn't have through. There were a few players who had better games. Was it the umpires who actually voted for the BOG medal? Didn't think it was.

How often does a player who won a BOG medal not end up getting the 3 votes? Might have happened, but would be very rare

I'm not saying Ebert was BOG, but getting the medal means he is very likely to get the 3 votes
For some reason i thought Boak won it tbh

If the medal winner always gets the 3 votes then I'll make the change there
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 17, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
I am going to go through and do mine now. Been busy with work this week and spent 3 days over the weekend on the Gold Coast.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Footy_junkie101 on May 18, 2017, 03:13:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KNGnM-fJCw&t=14s

Luke Shuey gotta be a chance with the form he's in
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 18, 2017, 11:50:51 PM
Sorry, been busy with work. Compiled the votes on Monday but my spreadsheet had an error. My team votes compiled was 1 vote below what it should have been so I had to go through every player from the start to find it. Fixed it all up.

Round 9 votes

West Coast v Western Bulldogs
3 S.Mitchell (WC)
2 D.Sheed (WC)
1 M.Bontempelli (WB)
   
Hawthorn v Brisbane
3 T.Mitchell (Haw)
2 T.Rockliff (Bris)
1 R.Henderson (Haw)
   
St Kilda v Carlton
3 J.Billings (Stk)
2 P.Cripps (Carl)
1 S.Ross (Stk)
   
GWS v Collingwood
3 J.Kelly (GWS)
2 J.Cameron (GWS)
1 B.Grundy (Coll)
   
Essendon v Geelong
3 Z.Merrett (Ess)
2 J.Daniher (Ess)
1 P.Dangerfield (Geel)

Adelaide v Melboure
3 J.Viney (Melb)
2 C.Oliver (Melb)
1 S.Jacobs (Adel)
   
Richmond v Fremantle
3 M.Walters (Fre)
2 B.Hill (Fre)
1 A.Rance (Rich)
   
Gold Coast v Port Adelaide
3 B.Ebert (PTA)
2 T.Boak (PTA)
1 J.Westhoff (PTA)
   
Nth Melbourne v Sydney
3 J.Kennedy (Syd)
2 L.Parker (Syd)
1 B.Cunnington (NM)

Leaderboard

Dangerfield 13
Sloane 12
Ablett, Yeo, Bontempelli 10
Kelly (GWS), Oliver 9
Wines, Jelwood, M.Murphy, D.Martin, Rocky, J.Cameron, Zerrett 8
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on May 21, 2017, 02:44:30 PM
What are your thoughts on the Titch Pendles debate, who gets 3 ?
Being at the game, Titch was the best player across the 4 qtrs but with the game on the line Pendles had the better impact, leaning towards Titch
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 21, 2017, 03:48:09 PM
What are your thoughts on the Titch Pendles debate, who gets 3 ?
Being at the game, Titch was the best player across the 4 qtrs but with the game on the line Pendles had the better impact, leaning towards Titch
Personally didn't think Titch had a huge impact, would give Pendles the 3
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 21, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
Titchell 3 and Pendles 2 for me.

Titch has come into $26 now after being $81 before the game.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on May 21, 2017, 07:36:20 PM
Titchell 3 and Pendles 2 for me.

Titch has come into $26 now after being $81 before the game.
ahhhhhh $126, $81 and $41 are what i got him at all between $5 and 7.50
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 21, 2017, 08:16:16 PM
Round 9                  
Cats vs Dogs   Dangerfield   3   Selwood   2   Duncan   1
Saints vs Swans   Hannerbery   3   Kennedy   2   Lloyd   1
Giants vs Tigers   Martin   3   Cotchin   2   Cameron   1
Lions vs Crows   Laird   3   Sloane   2   Beams   1
Pies vs Hawks   Mitchell   3   Pendlebury   2   Treloar   1
Bombers vs Eagles   Daniher   3   Watson   2   Merrett   1
Dees vs Roos   Goldstein   3   Ziebell   2   Brown   1
Dockers vs Blues   Walters   3   Neale   2   Gibbs   1

Leaderboard
Sloane - 16
Martin - 14
Dangerfield/Titchell - 13
Yeo/Murphy/Bont - 12
Jelwood/Zerrett/Cameron - 11
Rokliff/Laird - 9
Shuey/Ablett/Kelly - 8
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on May 21, 2017, 08:33:31 PM
Does anyone have an Excel file template they can share on here for mke to input my votes
Im to dumb with that stuff
or a website that allows you to put your own in ( Used to be a few)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 21, 2017, 09:23:52 PM
Does anyone have an Excel file template they can share on here for mke to input my votes
Im to dumb with that stuff
or a website that allows you to put your own in ( Used to be a few)

I don't have a template unfortunately, just make it up as I go from round to round.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 22, 2017, 07:30:07 PM
Titchell 3 and Pendles 2 for me.

Titch has come into $26 now after being $81 before the game.
ahhhhhh $126, $81 and $41 are what i got him at all between $5 and 7.50

I went Pendles 3 titch 2 but could see it going either way.

Also got on T.Mitchell. Put on 3 bets last week, T.Mitchell at $80 now $26, Neale at $100 now $50, Pendles at $67, now $41, now thats good timing!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 26, 2017, 06:30:12 PM
I have 12 players either tied or ahead of Tom Mitchell. And there is no chance anyone other than Pendles will get the 3 votes in that game.

Updated leaderboard up to the end of round 9

Dangerfield 16
Sloane 15
Dusty, Z.Merrett, Kelly 11
Ablett, Yeo, Bontempelli, J.Selwood, Cunnington 10
Oliver, T.Mitchell, Pendlebury 9

I haven't done votes for last night yet but 3 & 2 I would suspect will only go to Danger and Selwood.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on May 27, 2017, 01:15:41 AM
Burgoyne 3,. but 2 and 1 is a battle between Buddy, Titch, JPK and Zak Jones
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 27, 2017, 01:51:33 AM
Burgoyne 3,. but 2 and 1 is a battle between Buddy, Titch, JPK and Zak Jones
Silk
Budweiser
JPK
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 27, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
Burgoyne 3, Buddy 2, Mitchell 1 due to the past weeks media talk, his names already in the spotlight which for me edges him the vote based on history.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on May 28, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
Another clear 3 vote game for Sloane, puts him 4 clear of Danger and 5 of Selwood/Martin on my count.

I went Selwood 3 and Danger 2, they were hard to split but were the two best easy, went with Selwood as I though he was better across the whole game, while waa Danger was very good in spurts but quiet for long periods in between. 3 Burgoyne, 2 Buddy and 1 JPK for the Hawks game.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 28, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
Another clear 3 vote game for Sloane, puts him 4 clear of Danger and 5 of Selwood/Martin on my count.

I went Selwood 3 and Danger 2, they were hard to split but were the two best easy, went with Selwood as I though he was better across the whole game, while waa Danger was very good in spurts but quiet for long periods in between. 3 Burgoyne, 2 Buddy and 1 JPK for the Hawks game.

I've got Sloane on 19, Dusty on 17 and Danger on 15.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 28, 2017, 07:24:22 PM
Round 10

Geelong v Port Adelaide
3 J.Selwood (Geel)
2 P.Dangerfield (Geel)
1 O.Wines (Pta)

Sydney v Hawthorn
3 S.Burgoyne (Haw)
2 L.Franklin (Syd)
1 J.Kennedy (Syd)

W.Bulldogs v St Kilda
3 J.Stringer (WB)
2 M.Bontempelli (WB)
1 J.Johannisen (WB)

Melbourne v Gold Coast
3 J.Garlett (Melb)
2 A.Hall (GC)
1 N.Jones (Melb)

Richmond v Essendon
3 D.Martin (Rich)
2 T.Cotchin (Rich)
1 B.Ellis (Rich)

Adelaide v Fremantle
3 R.Sloane (Adel)
2 M.Crouch (Adel)
1 A.Otten (Adel)

Collingwood v Brisbane
3 A.Treloar (Coll)
2 D.Beams (BL)
1 D.Zorko (BL)

Carlton v Nth Melbourne
3 B.Gibbs (Carl)
2 S.Higgins (NM)
1 M.Kreuzer (Carl)

West Coast v GWS
3 C.Ward (GWS)
2 J.Kelly (GWS)
1 A.Gaff (WCE)

Leaderboard after Round 10
Dangerfield, Sloane 18
D.Martin 14
J.Selwood, J.Kelly 13
Bontempelli 12
Z.Merrett 11
Ablett, Yeo, Cunnington 10
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on May 29, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
A couple of thing of interest from the AFLCA votes this week.

Matt Crouch got the perfect 10 votes v Freo.  Pendles got 9 votes but I though Treloar, Beams and Zorko got the nod ahead of him but Treloar did not get a single vote.

Nor did Bontempelli who would have been flemington straight BOG if he kicked straight.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 29, 2017, 06:05:40 PM
Forgot to post after last week, here was my leaderboard after Round 9:

16 - Sloaney
15 - Danger
14 - Dusty
11 - TMitch
10 - Shuey, Bont, Yeo, Zerrett
9 - Wines, Ablett, Rocky, Jelwood, Kelly, Pendles

Will update after R10 later after dinner :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on May 29, 2017, 07:53:33 PM
Round 10

Geelong vs Port Adelaide
3   Patrick Dangerfield
2   Joel Selwood
1   Ollie Wines

Sydney vs Hawthorn   
3   Shaun Burgoyne
2   Lance Franklin
1   Josh P Kennedy
   
Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda   
3   Jake Stringer
2   Jack Newnes
1   Jason Johannisen

Melbourne vs Gold Coast   
3   Jeff Garlett
2   Nathan Jones
1   Aaron Hall
   
Richmond vs Essendon   
3   Dustin Martin
2   Brandon Ellis
1   Trent Cotchin
   
Adelaide vs Fremantle   
3   Rory Sloane
2   Rory Atkins
1   Andy Otten

Collingwood vs Brisbane   
3   Adam Treloar
2   Dayne Beams
1   Dayne Zorko
   
Carlton vs North Melbourne   
3   Bryce Gibbs
2   Shaun Higgins
1   Matthew Kreuzer
   
West Coast vs Greater Western Sydney   
3   Josh Kelly
2   Callan Ward
1   Dylan Shiel



Leaderboard after Round 10:

19 - Sloaney
18 - Danger
17 - Dusty
12 - Kelly
11 - T Mitchell, Jelwood
10 - Shuey, Bont, Yeo, Zerrett, Wines
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 29, 2017, 08:29:14 PM
Leaderboard after Round 10
19 - Sloane
17 - Dusty
15 - Danger
14 - Jelwood, Titchell
13 - Bont
12 - Yeo, Murphy
11 - Zerrett, Cameron
10 - Kelly
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
AFL.com Brownlow Predictor so far

(http://i.imgur.com/GAKNgQd.png)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on May 30, 2017, 10:49:06 PM
AFL.com Brownlow Predictor so far

(http://i.imgur.com/GAKNgQd.png)
There votes are weird as flower
Danger no votes this week?
Titch only polling in 3 games ? wtf haha
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 30, 2017, 11:14:43 PM
Their trackers are pretty accurate most years and I use it as a reference when doing my bets and I've won every year for years

The problem is, so many people here and in fantasy land use the stats, scores etc to decide their votes and even do it subconsciously without even realising

The umps vote based on what they saw, nothing more. They don't review stats etc so that's why I like using the afl and herald sun predictors because the people doing them are voting based on what they saw only

Not saying they get it right all the time, but they've been very good sources for me over the years and I try to avoid any polls by fantasy people when betting, because unless you watched the game from start to finish without looking at a single stat your vote is somewhat influenced and stat reliant which the umps are not

Looks like they gave Jelwood the 3 and Duncan 1, but I can' see any Port or Geel player with the 2 which is very odd. Maybe they meant to give Danger the 2 and it hasn't shown or something?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: TomK on May 31, 2017, 12:19:18 AM
Their trackers are pretty accurate most years and I use it as a reference when doing my bets and I've won every year for years

The problem is, so many people here and in fantasy land use the stats, scores etc to decide their votes and even do it subconsciously without even realising

The umps vote based on what they saw, nothing more. They don't review stats etc so that's why I like using the afl and herald sun predictors because the people doing them are voting based on what they saw only

Not saying they get it right all the time, but they've been very good sources for me over the years and I try to avoid any polls by fantasy people when betting, because unless you watched the game from start to finish without looking at a single stat your vote is somewhat influenced and stat reliant which the umps are not

Looks like they gave Jelwood the 3 and Duncan 1, but I can' see any Port or Geel player with the 2 which is very odd. Maybe they meant to give Danger the 2 and it hasn't shown or something?
Probably gave the 2 to the umps.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: meow meow on May 31, 2017, 02:11:35 AM
3 votes to Lever
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on May 31, 2017, 04:47:10 PM
That trackers only good for picking and comparing different vote systems, some are always way off every year.

Have noticed Phantombrownlow aren't up and running this year...yet?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 01, 2017, 12:11:58 PM
I'll have a look at my list and post my thoughts on team leaders when I get the chance.  I know one of my anomolies is I have Cameron equal with Kelly, but based on history don't see it happening.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 01, 2017, 12:30:49 PM
Round 10

Geel 81 v PA 79
3. J.Selwood
2. P.Dangerfield
1. J.Polec

Think Selwood gets the nod over Danger for being better for longer, Danger had a few patches but wasnt as good overall.

Syd 75 v Haw 81
3. S.Burgoyne
2. L.Franklin
1. J.P.Kennedy

Toss up Burgoyne and Franklin, Burgoyne as the hawks won

WB 90 v StK 50
3. J.Stringer
2. J.Newnes
1. M.Wallis

Tough game, not many stand outs, dont think Bont is in the running as he really butchered his ball use by his standards and wasnt as influential as usual.

Melb 122 v GC 87
3. N.Jones
2. J.Garlett
1. C.Oliver

N.Jones to beat Oliver for most votes at Dees, calling it now.

Rich 81 v Ess 66
3. D.Martin
2. B.Ellis
1. B.Goddard

Clear 3 to to Dusty

Ade 143 v Fre 43
3. R.Sloane
2. R.Atkins
1. M.Crouch

Clear three to Sloane despite the coaches giving the nod to Crouch

Coll 129 v Bris 84
3. A.Treloar
2. S.Pendlebury
1. B.Grundy

Cant beleive Treloar didnt get a coaches vote, Pendles got 9 in the coaches and 3 in the predictor, definately ahead of Beams/Zorko for me who would need to go bigger in a bad loss to get the votes, though could get 1 vote instead of Grundy.

Carl 96 v NM 113
3. B.Gibbs
2. S.Higgins
1. J.Ziebell

Gibbs and Higgins the clear 3 and 2 though order could be argued. Gibbs I though better but in losing team.

WC 90 v GWS 98
3. C.Ward
2. J.Kelly
1. A.Gaff

Another tough game without a clear order, think Ward set it up.



Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 01, 2017, 12:32:01 PM
18-
R.Sloane

17-

16-

15-


14-
P.Dangerfield

13-
J.Selwood
D.Martin

12-
M.Bontempelli


11-
T.Mitchell
L.Neale
S.Pendlebury
J.Kelly

10-
Z.Merrett
N.Jones

9-
JP.Kennedy
C.Oliver

8-
T.Greene*, M.Murphy, T.Rockliff
B.Cunnington, A.Treloar, O.Wines

7-
E.Yeo, R.Laird, J.Daniher
G.Ablett, T.Adams, JP.Kennedy
M.Duncan, S.Higgins, A.Gaff


6-
J.Cameron, D.Hannebery, M.Walters
R.Gray, D.Roberton, D.Beams
N.Riewoldt, JJ.Kennedy
L.Shuey, L.Dahlhaus
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 01, 2017, 02:33:48 PM
Coll 129 v Bris 84
3. A.Treloar
2. S.Pendlebury
1. B.Grundy

Cant beleive Treloar didnt get a coaches vote, Pendles got 9 in the coaches and 3 in the predictor, definately ahead of Beams/Zorko for me who would need to go bigger in a bad loss to get the votes, though could get 1 vote instead of Grundy.
It was anyone's game like halfway through the last quarter, wasn't really a bad loss until the Pies piled on a few unanswered late in the game. Zorko and Beams were well ahead of Grundy (tbh both Grundy and Stef weren't that influential at all) and Pendles, but I am also biased :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 01, 2017, 02:45:44 PM
This is what I have for most team votes atm:

Crows - Sloaney (Laird just ahead of Atkins without Sloane)
Lions - Rockliff, but Beams and Zorko right behind him so could go either way
Blues - Murphy just ahead of Gibbs
Pies - Pendles 1 vote clear of Adams/Treloar, close one there
Bombers - Zerrett 2 votes ahead of Daniher, no-one else really polling that well
Freo - Mundy and Neale tied first, Fyfe a vote behind, Walters a vote behind Fyfe. Freo games have been tough at times to award votes though, for me at least
Cats - Danger well clear of Jelwood, but so many times I have been tossing up between the 2 and gone with Danger as he won it last year. Could be a lot closer
Suns - Ablett well ahead atm
GWS - Kelly with a decent gap, Cameron, Ward, Greene the next batch 5-6 votes behind
Hawks - TMitch
Dees - Jones, but there's a lot of guys 1 vote behind the other, so this is a tough one to predict atm
Norf - Higgins, but Cunnington also close
Port - Wines, and then a bit of a gap to Gray
Tigs - Dusty well clear, Cotch next best
Saints - Nroo and Roberton tied for me atm, Billings and Steven behind them
Swans - I actually have a tie between Buddy, JPK, and Hanners atm, well clear of anyone else
Iggs - Shuey and Yeo tied, JJK, Gaff, SMitch 4-5 votes behind
Dogs - Bont 5 votes clear of Dahl, and then the rest
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on June 01, 2017, 09:02:25 PM
By the end of they year the market will be most Hawks votes excluding Titch
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on June 01, 2017, 09:50:45 PM
Until last week I didn't give any votes to Nathan Jones.

I think Oliver is a certainty to get most Dees votes.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 02, 2017, 08:52:10 AM
Until last week I didn't give any votes to Nathan Jones.

I think Oliver is a certainty to get most Dees votes.

I have him with 3 bogs  :o

No such thing as a sure thing in a kid with no voting history.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 02, 2017, 08:58:06 AM
Adelaide -Sloane wins. W/o Sloane - Laird on 7 ahead of Jacobs/Atkins on 4

Bris- Rockliff/Beams on 8/6 still eithers, Zorko a chance, no else at the club will get a vote  :o

Carl - Murphy right nown but only 3 and 4 votes clear of Gibbs and Cripps, could go to any of these three

Coll - Pendles 11, Treloar 8, Adams 7, race in three, would lean to Pendles.

Ess - Merrett should get it, 3 votes back to Daniher

Freo - Neale comfortably in front - walters second, fyfe 6 votes behind

GC - GAJ - on 7, no one else on more than 3

GWS - Kelly for me 11, a lot have Cameron up there but i only have him on 6, greene second on 7

Geel - Think it is closer than people think currently. I have Danger just 1 vote up on selwood

Haw - Mitchell 8 clear by my count! I dont have anyone else from hawks polling in more than one game. Burgoyne with 3 votes my second

Melb - Definately think this could be an upset and juicy odds, have Jones 1 vote ahead of Oliver, then daylight

NM - Higgins/Cunnington 1 vote apart, then 5 back to field

PA - Have wines 2 ahead of both ebert and gray, close race.

Rich - Martin then daylight. Riewold a sneaky to win without Martin ahead of Cotch

StK - Roo, Roberton, Ross, Steven, Billings all on 4-6 votes, hardest club to pick for me, no idea.

Syd - JPK 3 ahead of Hannerd/Buddy, lots of tough games to pick, could be any of those three

WC - Kennedy, Gaff, Shuey, Yeo all on 6-7 votes in my count, think Yeo is far from a sure thing.

WB - Bont 12, Dahl 6, no one else more than 3.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 02, 2017, 11:38:26 AM
Votes for last night? Dixon 3 and Ebert 2 were the 2 standouts to me, and then one of Ryder, Broadbent, Boak, and Wines for the 1 vote.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 02, 2017, 12:36:55 PM
Votes for last night? Dixon 3 and Ebert 2 were the 2 standouts to me, and then one of Ryder, Broadbent, Boak, and Wines for the 1 vote.

Ebert 3, Dixon 2 for me...but that single vote is tough...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 02, 2017, 12:42:03 PM
Votes for last night? Dixon 3 and Ebert 2 were the 2 standouts to me, and then one of Ryder, Broadbent, Boak, and Wines for the 1 vote.

Ebert 3, Dixon 2 for me...but that single vote is tough...

Ive gone Ebert, Dixon, Broadbent.. but single could be Wines, Boak, Hartlett also.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on June 02, 2017, 01:01:46 PM
Dixon 3, Ebert 2, 1 vote ?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 02, 2017, 11:30:08 PM
Crows - Laird well ahead without Sloane
Blues - Murphy well ahead
Bombers - Merrett
Suns - Ablett
Hawks - Mitchell
Tigers - Dusty
Dogs - Bont

They're the ones I'd be pretty sure of right now.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on June 03, 2017, 12:12:27 AM
Didn't know where else to say it but flower Danger is having an incredible year.

Last year kicked 23 goals all year, already has 22 and we're 11 games in. Has kicked multiple goals on 7 occasions and bags of 3 or more in 5/11 games all whilst averaging 30 touches and 6 tackles per game.

That is an incredible statistic. He's on track for 45 goals this season as a midfielder. Talk about MVP.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 03, 2017, 10:22:27 PM
Dusty 3...

Prestia 2, Houli 1? Cotch the other one there to consider...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on June 03, 2017, 11:34:05 PM
Dusty 3...

Prestia 2, Houli 1? Cotch the other one there to consider...

Dusty 3 by a mile but personally would have Cotchin 2 and Prestia 1. Cotchin had 32 disposals and 12 tackles
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2017, 12:17:24 AM
Dusty 3...

Prestia 2, Houli 1? Cotch the other one there to consider...

Dusty 3 by a mile but personally would have Cotchin 2 and Prestia 1. Cotchin had 32 disposals and 12 tackles
Yeah after Dusty it'll be hard to split the next few. I felt like i noticed Prestia a bit more (35 touches, 20 were kicks), not sure how much the umps notice the tackles as well haha.

And Houli was also very good. Might have to pick em out of a hat haha. Cotchin's polling history though might get him the 2 or 1 however...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: iZander on June 04, 2017, 12:45:25 AM
Didn't know where else to say it but flower Danger is having an incredible year.

Last year kicked 23 goals all year, already has 22 and we're 11 games in. Has kicked multiple goals on 7 occasions and bags of 3 or more in 5/11 games all whilst averaging 30 touches and 6 tackles per game.

That is an incredible statistic. He's on track for 45 goals this season as a midfielder. Talk about MVP.
Having an incredible year but Jelwoods been better imo. Has won them several games, always lifts at the right moment
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on June 04, 2017, 07:29:08 AM
Didn't know where else to say it but flower Danger is having an incredible year.

Last year kicked 23 goals all year, already has 22 and we're 11 games in. Has kicked multiple goals on 7 occasions and bags of 3 or more in 5/11 games all whilst averaging 30 touches and 6 tackles per game.

That is an incredible statistic. He's on track for 45 goals this season as a midfielder. Talk about MVP.
Having an incredible year but Jelwoods been better imo. Has won them several games, always lifts at the right moment


Apart from injury, suspension or considerably form drop it looks like its a 3-horse race. If jelwood takes votes of danger, then I think dusty and sloane could be value. Long road yet but dusty n danger have firmed up a lot in price atm
from their fantastic round this week.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2017, 08:33:00 AM
Dusty, Jelwood, Danger and Sloane

4 horse race, and their gap on the pack is only widening

I'd love to see Dusty and Jelwood both win it
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2017, 11:57:58 AM
Dusty, Jelwood, Danger and Sloane

4 horse race, and their gap on the pack is only widening

I'd love to see Dusty and Jelwood both win it
Kelly is right behind them with another 3 votes this week
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: shaker on June 04, 2017, 12:32:51 PM
Dusty, Jelwood, Danger and Sloane

4 horse race, and their gap on the pack is only widening

I'd love to see Dusty and Jelwood both win it
Kelly is right behind them with another 3 votes this week
Agree GL right behind if not level he is having a great year clearly there best player
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 04, 2017, 01:07:09 PM
Dusty has taken the lead in my count.

Dusty - 20, Sloane - 19, Danger/Jelwood - 17
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Dusty has taken the lead in my count.

Dusty - 20, Sloane - 19, Danger/Jelwood - 17
The Danger/Jelwood votes is gonna decide who gets it I reckon. I currently have Danger on 20, with Jelwood on 14 (i.e. 3 games where I've given Danger the 3 compared to you giving Jelwood the 3). They make it bloody tough for us every single week haha.

Before the Freo/Tigs game I'm now looking at:

20 - Danger, Dusty
19 - Sloaney
15 - Kelly
14 - Jelwood
12 - Ablett
11 - Tmitch

One or two of Pendles, Neale, Adams, Treloar will be up there with Ablett if they poll well today. Bont, Rocky, Beams with the bye this week could catch up a bit in the next 2 weeks when others have their bye, but wouldn't be able to catch Jelwood yet unless they poll both games the next 2 weeks and Jelwood doesn't poll in R13.

Going to be an interesting finish to the season post-byes!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 04, 2017, 04:31:48 PM
Dusty has taken the lead in my count.

Dusty - 20, Sloane - 19, Danger/Jelwood - 17
The Danger/Jelwood votes is gonna decide who gets it I reckon. I currently have Danger on 20, with Jelwood on 14 (i.e. 3 games where I've given Danger the 3 compared to you giving Jelwood the 3). They make it bloody tough for us every single week haha.

Before the Freo/Tigs game I'm now looking at:

20 - Danger, Dusty
19 - Sloaney
15 - Kelly
14 - Jelwood
12 - Ablett
11 - Tmitch

One or two of Pendles, Neale, Adams, Treloar will be up there with Ablett if they poll well today. Bont, Rocky, Beams with the bye this week could catch up a bit in the next 2 weeks when others have their bye, but wouldn't be able to catch Jelwood yet unless they poll both games the next 2 weeks and Jelwood doesn't poll in R13.

Going to be an interesting finish to the season post-byes!

The games where I've given the nod to Jelwood are when he's been the more consistent one, Danger did some amazing things when required at multiple times, but Jelwood just gets it done for the entire game.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on June 04, 2017, 09:59:38 PM
The thing that may hurt Kelly is that it sometimes takes the umps a year to take notice of the breakout players.
Numerous occasions where a breakout player hasn't polled well but then polled well the next year after they have become well known
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 04, 2017, 10:02:01 PM
The thing that may hurt Kelly is that it sometimes takes the umps a year to take notice of the breakout players.
Numerous occasions where a breakout player hasn't polled well but then polled well the next year after they have become well known
I think this might have held him back a bit earlier in the season, but guys like Ward, Shaw, Shiel, etc. haven't been as noticeable as usual so don't see those guys stealing many votes at all so far.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 05, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
Round 11

PA 98 v Haw 47
3. B.Ebert
2. C.Dixon
1. O.Wines

Geel 96 v Ade 74
3. P.Dangerfield
2. J.Selwood
1. S.Selwood

GC 80 v WC 77
3. G.Ablett
2. D.Sheed
1. J.Lyons

GWS 117 v Ess 101
3. J.Kelly
2. Z.Williams
1. T.Greene

NM 66 v Rich 101
3. D.Martin
2. D.Prestia
1. T.Cotchin

Freo 85 v Coll 105
3. T.Adams
2. A.Treloar
1. S.Pendlebury

Leaders

18- R.Sloane
17- P.Dangerfield
16- D.Martin
15- J.Selwood
14- J.Kelly
13-
12- M.Bontempelli, S.Pendlebury
11-  T.Mitchell, L.Neale
10- Z.Merrett, N.Jones, G.Ablett, T.Adams, A.Treloar
9- JP.Kennedy, C.Oliver, O.Wines, T.Greene*
8- M.Murphy, T.Rockliff, B.Cunnington
7- E.Yeo, R.Laird, J.Daniher, JP.Kennedy, M.Duncan, S.Higgins  A.Gaff
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 05, 2017, 11:10:40 PM
Still a lot of footy to go, but Jelwood at $15 to win is super juicy with 10 more games to come
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 05, 2017, 11:29:10 PM
Still a lot of footy to go, but Jelwood at $15 to win is super juicy with 10 more games to come

I got on him at $31 a few weeks back.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 05, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
Still a lot of footy to go, but Jelwood at $15 to win is super juicy with 10 more games to come

I got on him at $31 a few weeks back.

Same here at 31s. On Sloane at $12, PendlesT.Mitchell as roughies at 67/81. Hoping for something from that!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 05, 2017, 11:44:29 PM
Still a lot of footy to go, but Jelwood at $15 to win is super juicy with 10 more games to come

I got on him at $31 a few weeks back.

Same here at 31s. On Sloane at $12, PendlesT.Mitchell as roughies at 67/81. Hoping for something from that!

I'm hoping the bookies get team votes wrong this year!  ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 05, 2017, 11:49:57 PM
Found an online site thats doing a count, these are their votes up to date.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/Aisitq.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmAisitqj)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 05, 2017, 11:54:43 PM
Just read how they come up with their votes, if 2 players are tight for those votes or multiple players are tight with the vote then they'll "split" the vote.  Eg Danger and Jelwood can't be split from round 11 so they award each player 2.5 votes each, same with the 2 and 1 vote, instead they allocate 1.5 and 0.5.  I think because of this they have guys who are fighting for votes with each other lower than they should, like Danger. Oh well, I'll keep an eye on these guys too.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 06, 2017, 01:13:27 AM
Still a lot of footy to go, but Jelwood at $15 to win is super juicy with 10 more games to come

I got on him at $31 a few weeks back.

Same here at 31s. On Sloane at $12, PendlesT.Mitchell as roughies at 67/81. Hoping for something from that!

I'm hoping the bookies get team votes wrong this year!  ;D

Theres one or two every year.

Got Gaff last year when everyone was predicting Shuey ridiculously high.

This year Im thinking N.Jones over Oliver could be the roughy
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on June 06, 2017, 07:32:49 AM
I took selwood at 51/1 at the start of the year. Only a 10 ew proposition nothing big. Also took Sloane at 17/1 and Sam mitchell at 31/1 but that looks like im flogging a dead horse there.

i agree with the Njones over Oliver comment. He has good polling history iver unknown.
Think Neale will beat Fyfe.
Gibbs/Cripps are value right now even tho murph is ahead.
WCE is a lottery where value could be found beyond Shuey & yeo
Port is an interesting one. Dont think gray will win. Wondering if an ebert can knock of wines. Still long way to go tho.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Toga on June 06, 2017, 10:37:08 AM
Will be interesting to see how Josh Kelly polls being in a breakout year. Obviously deserves votes, and has had some games that the umpires just would not be able to look past him, but history says he might not poll as well as we all expect him to.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on June 06, 2017, 12:22:15 PM
Will be interesting to see how Josh Kelly polls being in a breakout year. Obviously deserves votes, and has had some games that the umpires just would not be able to look past him, but history says he might not poll as well as we all expect him to.

I agree. The only thing that  need to look at realistically is Kelly for nost votes for GWS. Dont think he has a chance for overall tbh due ti breakout year. And as mentioned above orher players from GWS like ward shiel shaw have all not have glorious years. Only Toby Greene & J cameron are the other standouts.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 06, 2017, 12:51:47 PM
Will be interesting to see how Josh Kelly polls being in a breakout year. Obviously deserves votes, and has had some games that the umpires just would not be able to look past him, but history says he might not poll as well as we all expect him to.

I agree. The only thing that  need to look at realistically is Kelly for nost votes for GWS. Dont think he has a chance for overall tbh due ti breakout year. And as mentioned above orher players from GWS like ward shiel shaw have all not have glorious years. Only Toby Greene & J cameron are the other standouts.

Yep, I feel Josh Kelly and Yeo will be the 2 players that are overlooked this year and won't be as high as people have them, myself included.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: meow meow on June 09, 2017, 08:38:56 PM
3 votes to Lever
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on June 12, 2017, 01:42:03 PM
3 votes Kreuzer.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on June 13, 2017, 02:06:11 PM
Ablett is coming.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 13, 2017, 02:23:08 PM
Ablett is coming.

Was at a juicy $41 before this week too!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 13, 2017, 02:25:16 PM
Ablett is coming.
Got him 5 votes behind Danger and Dusty now, gonna be a close finish if he keeps this form up. Will post my round 12 votes up tomorrow probably.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on June 13, 2017, 02:51:00 PM
Ablett is coming.

Was at a juicy $41 before this week too!

Shower :-[
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 18, 2017, 03:54:47 PM
Struggling with the Tigers/Swans game...do they give votes to Tiges for playing 3.5 qtrs or to Swans for winning the game.  :-\
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Nige on June 18, 2017, 04:15:29 PM
Struggling with the Tigers/Swans game...do they give votes to Tiges for playing 3.5 qtrs or to Swans for winning the game.  :-\
Eh, we only really played a half.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 18, 2017, 11:14:16 PM
Struggling with the Tigers/Swans game...do they give votes to Tiges for playing 3.5 qtrs or to Swans for winning the game.  :-\
Eh, we only really played a half.

I was originally going to say that, but thought I might offend a few.  ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 19, 2017, 09:16:07 AM
What did people do with Danger for votes this week? His stats were good but watching the game could see him missing the votes for sure.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 19, 2017, 10:01:50 AM
What did people do with Danger for votes this week? His stats were good but watching the game could see him missing the votes for sure.

Off the top of my head I think I went Mitchell, Danger, Shuey...but not confident.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: meow meow on June 19, 2017, 10:10:26 AM
Get around Jack Sinclair.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 19, 2017, 11:17:24 AM
What did people do with Danger for votes this week? His stats were good but watching the game could see him missing the votes for sure.

Off the top of my head I think I went Mitchell, Danger, Shuey...but not confident.
Shuey was best on for me

Was close after that...maybe Danger 2 and Smitch 1
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on June 20, 2017, 12:13:15 AM
Can someone/ multiple people put there votes up for round 13, was busy as flower so missed most games
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 20, 2017, 01:01:37 AM
Can someone/ multiple people put there votes up for round 13, was busy as flower so missed most games
I'll probably put mine up in the morning :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on June 20, 2017, 01:49:08 AM
Bryce Gibbs, 15 votes
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 20, 2017, 08:43:07 AM
Round 12

Syd 88 v WB 42
3. I. Heeney
2. JPKc
1. T.Papley

Ade 111 v StK 54
3. R.Laird
2. J.Lever
1. T.Lynch

Haw 79 v GC 95
3. G.Ablett
2. J.Gunston
1. T.Mitchell

Bris 121 v Fre 64
3. D.Zorko
2. D.Beams
1. L.Taylor

Ess 131 v PA 61
3. C.Hooker
2. Z.Merrett
1. J.Watson

Carl 71 v GWS 70
3. S.Docherty
2. M.Kruezer
1  D.Shiel

Melb 104 v Coll 100
3. C.Petracca
2. B.Grundy
1. N.Jones
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 20, 2017, 08:51:58 AM
Round 13

WC 83 v Geel 70
3. L.Shuey
2. S.Mitchell
1. P.Dangerfield

Think these are the right players but the order could be different.

NM 72 v StK 89
3. S.Ross
2. J.Billings
1. J.Ziebell

Pretty confident, the 1 vote was between a couple.

Rich 71 v Syd 80
3. T.Cotchin
2. J.Lloyd
1. T.Papley

Tough game, Richmond better most of the night but lost. Guys like JPK won thegame but were useless for 3 quarters. Dont think Dusty is in the votes.

PA 121 v Bris 81
3. O.Wines
2. D.Zorko
1. C.Wingard

Maybe Zorko gets the 3 but 40 point loss.. fairly even between  ports best, Wines won a lot of ball under the umps noses.

GC 73 v Carl 83
3. B.Gibbs
2. S.Docherty
1. J.Lyons
Gibbs should get the 3, 2 and 1

WB 56 v Melb 113
3. J.Watts
2. J.Lewis
1. T.McDonald
Toughest gsme of the round, wouldnt be surprised by any order of 5 or 6 guys
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 20, 2017, 08:58:58 AM
Leaders at end of Round 13

18-
R.Sloane
P.Dangerfield

17-

16-
D.Martin

15-
J.Selwood

14-
J.Kelly

13-
G.Ablett

12-
M.Bontempelli , S.Pendlebury, T.Mitchell, Z.Merrett, O.Wines


11-
L.Neale, JP.Kennedy, N.Jones

10-
T.Adams, A.Treloar, R.Laird

9-
C.Oliver, T.Greene*, L.Shuey

8-
M.Murphy, T.Rockliff, D.Beams, B.Cunnington, D.Zorko, B.Gibbs, S.Docherty, T.Cotchin

7-
E.Yeo, J.Daniher, A.Gaff, JP.Kennedy, M.Duncan, S.Higgins , S.Ross, J.Billings, S.Mitchell

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 20, 2017, 12:39:25 PM
I can't remember if I posted any other votes during the bye rounds, so here is all 3 of them haha

Round 11:

Port Adelaide vs Hawthorn   
3   Charlie Dixon
2   Brad Ebert
1   Matthew Broadbent
   
Geelong vs Adelaide   
3   Joel Selwood
2   Patrick Dangerfield
1   Zach Tuohy
   
Gold Coast vs West Coast   
3   Gary Ablett
2   Sam Mitchell
1   Jarryd Lyons

Greater Western Sydney vs Essendon   
3   Josh Kelly
2   Zac Williams
1   Dylan Shiel
   
North Melbourne vs Richmond   
3   Dustin Martin
2   Dion Prestia
1   Trent Cotchin
   
Fremantle vs Collingwood   
3   Adam Treloar
2   Steele Sidebottom
1   Scott Pendlebury



Round 12:

Sydney vs Western Bulldogs   
3   Isaac Heeney
2   Josh P Kennedy
1   Luke Parker
   
Adelaide vs St Kilda   
3   Rory Laird
2   Tom T Lynch
1   Sam Jacobs
   
Hawthorn vs Gold Coast   
3   Gary Ablett
2   Jack Gunston
1   Jarryd Lyons

Brisbane vs Fremantle   
3   Dayne Zorko
2   Dayne Beams
1   Stefan Martin
   
Essendon vs Port Adelaide   
3   Cale Hooker
2   Zach Merrett
1   Dyson Heppell
   
Carlton vs Greater Western Sydney   
3   Sam Docherty
2   Dylan Shiel
1   Matthew Kreuzer

Melbourne vs Collingwood   
3   Nathan Jones
2   Christian Petracca
1   Steele Sidebottom



Round 13:

West Coast vs Geelong   
3   Luke Shuey
2   Patrick Dangerfield
1   Sam Mitchell
   
North Melbourne vs St Kilda   
3   Seb Ross
2   Jack Billings
1   Leigh Montagna
   
Richmond vs Sydney   
3   Trent Cotchin
2   Isaac Heeney
1   Josh P Kennedy

Port Adelaide vs Brisbane   
3   Ollie Wines
2   Dayne Zorko
1   Patrick Ryder
   
Gold Coast vs Carlton   
3   Bryce Gibbs
2   Sam Docherty
1   Kade Simpson
   
Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne   
3   Jordan Lewis
2   Tom McDonald
1   Tom Liberatore
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 20, 2017, 12:55:43 PM
Leaderboard after the bye rounds:

22 - Danger
20 - Dusty
19 - Sloaney
15 - Josh Kelly, Ablett
14 - Jelwood
13 - Shuey, Wines
12 - Zerrett
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on June 20, 2017, 01:19:22 PM
Kreuz was BOG by a country mile against GWS.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 20, 2017, 01:24:49 PM
Kreuz was BOG by a country mile against GWS.
Ruckmen never poll as well as we expect, which is why I'm not too keen on giving them the 3 votes (or even 2 for that matter)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on June 20, 2017, 01:28:20 PM
Watching the game at the ground though it would be hard to not give him the 3. He dominated Mummy around the ground and came up clutch countless times.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 20, 2017, 01:36:47 PM
Watching the game at the ground though it would be hard to not give him the 3. He dominated Mummy around the ground and came up clutch countless times.
Tbh i thought he was best on as well, i just don't think the umps will give him the 3 :p
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 20, 2017, 03:12:57 PM
Watching the game at the ground though it would be hard to not give him the 3. He dominated Mummy around the ground and came up clutch countless times.
Tbh i thought he was best on as well, i just don't think the umps will give him the 3 :p

Ive been burnt by Ruckman before. Going back to Cox and some of his all australian years averaging 120 sc and dominating.. only to get 4 or 5 votes in the brownlow when i had him on 15+
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on June 20, 2017, 03:20:10 PM
I need to catch up on the last 3 weeks. I will hope to do so by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 20, 2017, 07:22:50 PM
Round 12                  
Swans vs Dogs   Kennedy   3   Heeney   2   Franklin   1
Crows vs Saints   Laird   3   Lynch   2   Ross   1
Hawks vs Suns   Ablett   3   Gunston   2   Mitchell   1
Lions vs Dockers   Beams   3   Zorko   2   Martin   1
Bombers vs Power   Merrett   3   Hooker   2   Heppell   1
Blues vs Giants   Docherty   3   Kreuzer   2   Shiel   1
Dees vs Pies   Grundy   3   Sidebottom   2   Jones   1
                  
Round 13                  
Eagles vs Cats   Mitchell   3   Dangerfield   2   Shuey   1
Roos vs Saints   Billings   3   Ross   2   Gibson   1
Tigers vs Swans   Kennedy   3   Cotchin   2   Martin   1
Power vs Lions   R. Gray   3   Zorko   2   Wines   1
Suns vs Blues   Gibbs   3   Docherty   2   Simpson   1
Dogs vs Dees   Watts   3   McDonald   2   Salem   


21 - Dusty
19 - Danger, Sloane
17 - Jelwood
15 - Titchell
14 - Merrett, Ablett
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: meow meow on June 20, 2017, 07:38:19 PM
Personally I thought Sinclair deserved the 3 for the Saints this week (R13) and neither of you gave him a vote so it'll be interesting to see what happens there.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Nige on June 20, 2017, 07:56:36 PM
Round 12                  
Swans vs Dogs   Kennedy   3   Heeney   2   Franklin   1
Crows vs Saints   Laird   3   Lynch   2   Ross   1
Hawks vs Suns   Ablett   3   Gunston   2   Mitchell   1
Lions vs Dockers   Beams   3   Zorko   2   Martin   1
Bombers vs Power   Merrett   3   Hooker   2   Heppell   1
Blues vs Giants   Docherty   3   Kreuzer   2   Shiel   1
Dees vs Pies   Grundy   3   Sidebottom   2   Jones   1
                  
Round 13                  
Eagles vs Cats   Mitchell   3   Dangerfield   2   Shuey   1
Roos vs Saints   Billings   3   Ross   2   Gibson   1
Tigers vs Swans   Kennedy   3   Cotchin   2   Martin   1
Power vs Lions   R. Gray   3   Zorko   2   Wines   1
Suns vs Blues   Gibbs   3   Docherty   2   Simpson   1
Dogs vs Dees   Watts   3   McDonald   2   Salem   


21 - Dusty
19 - Danger, Sloane
17 - Jelwood
15 - Titchell
14 - Merrett, Ablett
Need to know more about how Dusty gets a vote in Round 13.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 20, 2017, 08:18:45 PM
Round 12                  
Swans vs Dogs   Kennedy   3   Heeney   2   Franklin   1
Crows vs Saints   Laird   3   Lynch   2   Ross   1
Hawks vs Suns   Ablett   3   Gunston   2   Mitchell   1
Lions vs Dockers   Beams   3   Zorko   2   Martin   1
Bombers vs Power   Merrett   3   Hooker   2   Heppell   1
Blues vs Giants   Docherty   3   Kreuzer   2   Shiel   1
Dees vs Pies   Grundy   3   Sidebottom   2   Jones   1
                  
Round 13                  
Eagles vs Cats   Mitchell   3   Dangerfield   2   Shuey   1
Roos vs Saints   Billings   3   Ross   2   Gibson   1
Tigers vs Swans   Kennedy   3   Cotchin   2   Martin   1
Power vs Lions   R. Gray   3   Zorko   2   Wines   1
Suns vs Blues   Gibbs   3   Docherty   2   Simpson   1
Dogs vs Dees   Watts   3   McDonald   2   Salem   


21 - Dusty
19 - Danger, Sloane
17 - Jelwood
15 - Titchell
14 - Merrett, Ablett
Need to know more about how Dusty gets a vote in Round 13.

That was the toughest game for me and I went with Dusty because Tigers were in front for the majority of the game, other Tiger who was good was Houli, but Dusty name alone will get him votes.  Could be completely wrong, but I've been doing this long enough to know if there's any doubt go with the name.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on June 20, 2017, 08:50:23 PM
Interesting to see the wide deviations of votes. The one thing all have in common is danger close to the top with selwood, sloane and dusty all doing well. This is the first year I haven't done my own votes for a while due to the app i used to use carked it... But i think Sloane/ Danger would be front runners with Dusty/ Selwood/ Ablett trailing them. Interesting top see how many awards YEo is going high in, him and shuey probably pinching votes off each other and are probbaly on about 10-11 each i reckon.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on June 20, 2017, 09:19:36 PM
Hibberd was probably best on for the dees dogs game, could see him getting votes too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 20, 2017, 10:50:08 PM
Hibberd was probably best on for the dees dogs game, could see him getting votes too

Yeah I've seen a few other voting sites that have Hibberd on 3, thought he started off fairly slow, but started racking it up later.

One site I've see has Mitchell currently #1 for West Coast, Yeo 2nd and Shuey in 3rd.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on June 20, 2017, 10:57:22 PM
Rance or Houli for mine, not Dusty

Oddly enough, afl.com went 3 Lloyd, 2 Rance, 1 Hanners  :o
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Mat0369 on June 20, 2017, 11:11:32 PM
Ive been burnt by Ruckman before. Going back to Cox and some of his all australian years averaging 120 sc and dominating.. only to get 4 or 5 votes in the brownlow when i had him on 15+

Not looking at SC scores and just watching the game at the ground Kreuz was dominant. Like head and shoulders above everyone else dominant. It reminded me of that game we played Melbourne and he demolished Gawn. He had 17 touches, 3 goals and 3 votes in that game. Doc had a lot of the ball at HB and it looks good on the stat sheet, but Kreuz had the biggest influence on the game.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 20, 2017, 11:50:55 PM
Hibberd was probably best on for the dees dogs game, could see him getting votes too

Yeah I've seen a few other voting sites that have Hibberd on 3, thought he started off fairly slow, but started racking it up later.

One site I've see has Mitchell currently #1 for West Coast, Yeo 2nd and Shuey in 3rd.

Dees v dogs was hardest game for votes for me.

West Coast I think Yeo won't get anywhere near as many votes as other awards like the coaches where he is winning. Also think Shuey is regularly over rated for his games (blowing my own horn picked Gaff to beat him last year when a lot had Shuey top 3).

I do have Shuey in the lead after saying that though! But very even and open race. Id be tempted to get on Gaff or even Kennedy if the price is right.
9 - Shuey. 7 - Gaff, Mitchell, Yeo. 6 - Kennedy.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 25, 2017, 09:43:18 PM
Round 14                  
Crows vs Hawks   T. Mitchell   3   Henderson   2   Burgoyne   1
Swans vs Bombers   Merrett   3   Kennedy   2   Heeney   1
Pies vs Power   Gray   3   Wines   2   Sidebottom   1
Lions vs Giants   Shiel   3   Patton   2   Greene   1
Dogs vs Roos   Bontempelli   3   Macrae   2   Cunnington   1
Eagles vs Dees   Viney   3   McDonald   2   Gawn   1
Cats vs Dockers   Dangerfield   3   B. Hill   2   Taylor   1
Tigers vs Blues   Kreuzer   3   Martin   2   Docherty   1
Saints vs Suns   Billings   3   Steven   2   Harbrow   1


Leaderboard
23 - Dusty
22 - Danger
19 - Sloane
18 - Titchell
17 - Jelwood, Zerrett
16 - Bontempelli
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on June 26, 2017, 05:39:58 PM
Round 14                  
Crows vs Hawks   T. Mitchell   3   Henderson   2   Burgoyne   1
Swans vs Bombers   Merrett   3   Kennedy   2   Heeney   1
Pies vs Power   Gray   3   Wines   2   Sidebottom   1
Lions vs Giants   Shiel   3   Patton   2   Greene   1
Dogs vs Roos   Bontempelli   3   Macrae   2   Cunnington   1
Eagles vs Dees   Viney   3   McDonald   2   Gawn   1
Cats vs Dockers   Dangerfield   3   B. Hill   2   Taylor   1
Tigers vs Blues   Kreuzer   3   Martin   2   Docherty   1
Saints vs Suns   Billings   3   Steven   2   Harbrow   1




Leaderboard
23 - Dusty
22 - Danger
19 - Sloane
18 - Titchell
17 - Jelwood, Zerrett
16 - Bontempelli

Would have Heeney and Kennedy miles in front of Merret. Was watching Merret closely all night as he was my fantasy captain and there is no he had more influence on that game than the 2 sydney players.

Crows vs hawks. Burgoyne is a certainty for the 3. Had the most influence by a mile on that game. Would have Henderson and Birchall above Tom Mitchell as well.

Melbourne and Eagles- Gawn wont poll. Vince, Petrie, Mcgovern all miles ahead of him.

Rest look okay. Are you watching games or just basing of stats?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 26, 2017, 06:44:11 PM
Round 14                  
Crows vs Hawks   T. Mitchell   3   Henderson   2   Burgoyne   1
Swans vs Bombers   Merrett   3   Kennedy   2   Heeney   1
Pies vs Power   Gray   3   Wines   2   Sidebottom   1
Lions vs Giants   Shiel   3   Patton   2   Greene   1
Dogs vs Roos   Bontempelli   3   Macrae   2   Cunnington   1
Eagles vs Dees   Viney   3   McDonald   2   Gawn   1
Cats vs Dockers   Dangerfield   3   B. Hill   2   Taylor   1
Tigers vs Blues   Kreuzer   3   Martin   2   Docherty   1
Saints vs Suns   Billings   3   Steven   2   Harbrow   1




Leaderboard
23 - Dusty
22 - Danger
19 - Sloane
18 - Titchell
17 - Jelwood, Zerrett
16 - Bontempelli

Would have Heeney and Kennedy miles in front of Merret. Was watching Merret closely all night as he was my fantasy captain and there is no he had more influence on that game than the 2 sydney players.

Crows vs hawks. Burgoyne is a certainty for the 3. Had the most influence by a mile on that game. Would have Henderson and Birchall above Tom Mitchell as well.

Melbourne and Eagles- Gawn wont poll. Vince, Petrie, Mcgovern all miles ahead of him.

Rest look okay. Are you watching games or just basing of stats?

This week was a bit of a rush, so a few of those you've commented on were based mainly off stats.  I gave Gawn the 1 because he constantly gave the Dee's first touch of the ball, was at the game and him and McDonald were so dominant from being there.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on June 26, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
Round 14

Adelaide vs Hawthorn   
3   Shaun Burgoyne
2   Grant Birchall
1   Tom Mitchell
   
Sydney vs Essendon   
3   Josh P Kennedy
2   Isaac Heeney
1   Zach Merrett
   
Collingwood vs Port Adelaide   
3   Robbie Gray
2   Steele Sidebottom
1   Jeremy Howe

Brisbane vs Greater Western Sydney   
3   Dylan Shiel
2   Jonathon Patton
1   Toby Greene
   
Western Buldogs vs North Melbourne   
3   Marcus Bontempelli
2   Ben Cunnington
1   Jack Macrae
   
West Coast vs Melbourne   
3   Jack Viney
2   Tom McDonald
1   Bernie Vince

Geelong vs Fremantle   
3   Patrick Dangerfield
2   Zach Tuohy
1   Mitch Duncan
   
Richmond vs Carlton   
3   Dustin Martin
2   Patrick Cripps
1   Matthew Kreuzer
   
St Kilda vs Gold Coast   
3   Jack Billings
2   Jarrod Harbrow
1   Jack Steven



Leaderboard:

25 - Danger
23 - Dusty
19 - Sloaney
15 - Josh Kelly, Ablett
14 - Jelwood
13 - Shuey, Wines, JPK, Zerrett, Bont
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on June 26, 2017, 07:22:15 PM
Round 14                  
Crows vs Hawks   T. Mitchell   3   Henderson   2   Burgoyne   1
Swans vs Bombers   Merrett   3   Kennedy   2   Heeney   1
Pies vs Power   Gray   3   Wines   2   Sidebottom   1
Lions vs Giants   Shiel   3   Patton   2   Greene   1
Dogs vs Roos   Bontempelli   3   Macrae   2   Cunnington   1
Eagles vs Dees   Viney   3   McDonald   2   Gawn   1
Cats vs Dockers   Dangerfield   3   B. Hill   2   Taylor   1
Tigers vs Blues   Kreuzer   3   Martin   2   Docherty   1
Saints vs Suns   Billings   3   Steven   2   Harbrow   1




Leaderboard
23 - Dusty
22 - Danger
19 - Sloane
18 - Titchell
17 - Jelwood, Zerrett
16 - Bontempelli

Would have Heeney and Kennedy miles in front of Merret. Was watching Merret closely all night as he was my fantasy captain and there is no he had more influence on that game than the 2 sydney players.

Crows vs hawks. Burgoyne is a certainty for the 3. Had the most influence by a mile on that game. Would have Henderson and Birchall above Tom Mitchell as well.

Melbourne and Eagles- Gawn wont poll. Vince, Petrie, Mcgovern all miles ahead of him.

Rest look okay. Are you watching games or just basing of stats?

This week was a bit of a rush, so a few of those you've commented on were based mainly off stats.  I gave Gawn the 1 because he constantly gave the Dee's first touch of the ball, was at the game and him and McDonald were so dominant from being there.

Yeah just commenting on the ones i watched/ was at the eagles game. Gawn took 2 good grabs. But he gave up 33 hit outs to Vardy and 8 to petrie and there not exactly a world beater combination to give up 41 hit outs to, when he only got the 42 himself. Viney and McDonald miles ahead of the pack but then 1 will be between Vince, Petrie, Mcgovern and even Dom Tyson will be ahead of Gawn. I think Petrie will get the 1. Some really big pack marks and 4 good goals with pinch hitting in the ruck will see him pluck 1.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on June 26, 2017, 08:53:53 PM
Round 14                  
Crows vs Hawks   T. Mitchell   3   Henderson   2   Burgoyne   1
Swans vs Bombers   Merrett   3   Kennedy   2   Heeney   1
Pies vs Power   Gray   3   Wines   2   Sidebottom   1
Lions vs Giants   Shiel   3   Patton   2   Greene   1
Dogs vs Roos   Bontempelli   3   Macrae   2   Cunnington   1
Eagles vs Dees   Viney   3   McDonald   2   Gawn   1
Cats vs Dockers   Dangerfield   3   B. Hill   2   Taylor   1
Tigers vs Blues   Kreuzer   3   Martin   2   Docherty   1
Saints vs Suns   Billings   3   Steven   2   Harbrow   1




Leaderboard
23 - Dusty
22 - Danger
19 - Sloane
18 - Titchell
17 - Jelwood, Zerrett
16 - Bontempelli

Would have Heeney and Kennedy miles in front of Merret. Was watching Merret closely all night as he was my fantasy captain and there is no he had more influence on that game than the 2 sydney players.

Crows vs hawks. Burgoyne is a certainty for the 3. Had the most influence by a mile on that game. Would have Henderson and Birchall above Tom Mitchell as well.

Melbourne and Eagles- Gawn wont poll. Vince, Petrie, Mcgovern all miles ahead of him.

Rest look okay. Are you watching games or just basing of stats?

This week was a bit of a rush, so a few of those you've commented on were based mainly off stats.  I gave Gawn the 1 because he constantly gave the Dee's first touch of the ball, was at the game and him and McDonald were so dominant from being there.

Yeah just commenting on the ones i watched/ was at the eagles game. Gawn took 2 good grabs. But he gave up 33 hit outs to Vardy and 8 to petrie and there not exactly a world beater combination to give up 41 hit outs to, when he only got the 42 himself. Viney and McDonald miles ahead of the pack but then 1 will be between Vince, Petrie, Mcgovern and even Dom Tyson will be ahead of Gawn. I think Petrie will get the 1. Some really big pack marks and 4 good goals with pinch hitting in the ruck will see him pluck 1.

Righto, might wait for a few more posts and adjust mine a little bit, cheers!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 27, 2017, 12:31:41 PM
Round 14

Ade 82 v Haw 96
3. S.Burgoyne
2. T.Mitchell
1. H.Greenwood

Syd 86 v Ess 85
3. JP.Kennedy
2. Z.Merrett
1. I.Heeney

Coll 62 v PA 93
3. R.Gray
2. O.Wines
1. SPP

Bris 86 v GWS 146
3. D.Shiel
2. J.Patton
1. J.Cameron

WB 107 v NM 106
3. M.Bontempelli
2. B.Cunnington
1. J.Macrae

WC 96 v Melb 99
3. J.Viney
2. T.McDonald
1. A.Gaff

Gee 74 v Fre 72
3. P.Dangerfield
2. M.Walters
1. B.Hill

Rich 84 v Carl 58
3. D.Martin
2. P.Cripps
1. M.Kruezer

St.K 103 v GC 72
3. J.Billings
2. J.Steven
1. J.Harbrow
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on June 27, 2017, 12:34:42 PM
Leaders

21-
P.Dangerfield

20-

19-
D.Martin

18-
R.Sloane

17-

16-

15-
J.Selwood, M.Bontempelli

14-
J.Kelly, T.Mitchell, Z.Merrett, JP.Kennedy, O.Wines

13-
G.Ablett

12-
S.Pendlebury


11-
L.Neale, N.Jones

10-
T.Adams, A.Treloar, R.Laird, B.Cunnington, J.Billings

9-
C.Oliver, T.Greene*, L.Shuey, R.Gray
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on July 02, 2017, 08:41:28 AM
As each game goes on & each round completes, its harder and harder to see how this years brownlow is becoming a 2-horse race. Danger & Martin
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2017, 08:47:43 AM
Just checked TAB and they don't even have the Quinella or any other markets up at the moment

Danger/Dusty Quinella is an absolute certainty at this stage, although still a lot of football to play out

Can anyone tell me what that Quinella is currently paying, and where?

EDIT, just checked Sportsbet and they don't have it too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Rusty00 on July 02, 2017, 09:50:49 PM
So, it's definitely time to cash out my Jelwood bet?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 02, 2017, 10:00:22 PM
So, it's definitely time to cash out my Jelwood bet?

Yeah I think so

It's a 2 horse race now
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 03, 2017, 08:23:01 AM
Just checked TAB and they don't even have the Quinella or any other markets up at the moment

Danger/Dusty Quinella is an absolute certainty at this stage, although still a lot of football to play out

Can anyone tell me what that Quinella is currently paying, and where?

EDIT, just checked Sportsbet and they don't have it too

cant find quinella anywhere yet

just quietly Danger into Burton is $3.62
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 03, 2017, 05:21:35 PM
Just checked TAB and they don't even have the Quinella or any other markets up at the moment

Danger/Dusty Quinella is an absolute certainty at this stage, although still a lot of football to play out

Can anyone tell me what that Quinella is currently paying, and where?

EDIT, just checked Sportsbet and they don't have it too

cant find quinella anywhere yet

just quietly Danger into Burton is $3.62

I put in multis of Burton into Danger/Dusty into Buddy/JKK before the round began.  Burton's down to $1.62 now, still pretty good value.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 03, 2017, 08:01:15 PM
Round 15                  
Dees vs Swans   Parker   3   Franklin   2   Jack   1
Dogs vs Eagles   Gaff   3   Darling   2   Yeo   1
Crows vs Blues   Gibbs   3   M. Crouch   2   Jenkins   1
Suns vs Roos   Ablett   3   Lynch   2   Lyons   1
Giants vs Cats   Danger   3   Menegola   2   Ward   1
Power vs Tigers   Martin   3   Wingard   2   Lambert   1
Bombers vs Lions   Zorko   3   Watson   2   Goddard   1
Hawks vs Pies   Mitchell   3   De Goey   2   Hodge   1
Dockers vs Saints   Walters   3   Ross   2   Neale   1

Leaderboard
26 - Dusty
25 - Danger
19 - Sloane
18 - Titchell
17 - Jelwood/Ablett
16 - Bont
15 - Merrett
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 07, 2017, 10:22:46 PM
3 votes to Lever
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Nige on July 07, 2017, 11:35:44 PM
3 votes to Lever
That's an odd way to spell David Mackay.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 11, 2017, 12:42:57 PM
Round 16                  
Crows vs Dogs   Laird   3   M. Crouch   2   Walker   1
Hawks vs Giants   T. Mitchell   3   Ward   2   Kelly   1
Pies vs Bombers   Zaharakis   3   Hurley   2   Kelly   1
Swans vs Suns   Rohan   3   Parker   2   Franklin   1
Lions vs Cats   Dangerfield   3   Zorko   2   Duncan   1
Saints vs Tigers   Ross   3   Riewoldt   2   Montagna   1
Roos vs Dockers   Fyfe   3   Walters   2   Blakely   1
Blues vs Demons   Murphy   3   Docherty   2   Simpson   1
Eagles vs Power   Ryder   3   Ebert   2   Wines   1

Leaderboard
28 - Danger
26 - Dusty
21 - Titchell
19 - Sloane
17 - Jelwood/Ablett
16 - Bont
15 - Zorko/Merrett/Murphy
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on July 11, 2017, 02:01:25 PM
Clayton no votes in the dees game??

Even TMac deserving as well imo
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 11, 2017, 10:19:08 PM
Clayton no votes in the dees game??

Even TMac deserving as well imo

Didn't get to see the game, but based on the fact that Blues were up for about 95% of the game and all there top dogs went big, plus Dee's looked like they shared the effort across the whole team.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on July 12, 2017, 07:46:48 AM
Martin (place) into Burton (rising star) into Geelong as Highest Vic Team finishing ladder position is MONEY FOR JAM!
Short & sweet. Combined Odds - 3.75$ on TAB
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 12, 2017, 02:37:10 PM
Martin (place) into Burton (rising star) into Geelong as Highest Vic Team finishing ladder position is MONEY FOR JAM!
Short & sweet. Combined Odds - 3.75$ on TAB

Rising star is dodgy but. Theyre just as likely to give it to Powell-pepper or Mcgrath.

Do Geelong have a good run home? Dees have a lot of players coming back.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 12, 2017, 02:40:23 PM
Just had a look. Geelong still to play gws, sydney, Adelaide, Richmond, Hawthorn. No thanks on that one. Even Carlton could give them a run. Other game is collingwood and i think Collingwood won that? Geelong could lose next 7... Not likely i know. But hardly easy money when dees draw is a lot more favourable.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: PowerBug on July 12, 2017, 02:41:19 PM
Martin (place) into Burton (rising star) into Geelong as Highest Vic Team finishing ladder position is MONEY FOR JAM!
Short & sweet. Combined Odds - 3.75$ on TAB

Rising star is dodgy but. Theyre just as likely to give it to Powell-pepper or Mcgrath.

Do Geelong have a good run home? Dees have a lot of players coming back.
Coming from a fair way back. Geelong do have Swans, Crows and Giants games to come but I think they will be top 3 with Adelaide and GWS.

SPP will win the rising star unfortunately so you'll lose :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on July 12, 2017, 02:57:31 PM
Clayton no votes in the dees game??

Even TMac deserving as well imo

Didn't get to see the game, but based on the fact that Blues were up for about 95% of the game and all there top dogs went big, plus Dee's looked like they shared the effort across the whole team.

Marc Murphy 3 - Tom McDonald 2 - Clayton Oliver 1 for mine.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 12, 2017, 03:35:11 PM
Clayton no votes in the dees game??

Even TMac deserving as well imo

Didn't get to see the game, but based on the fact that Blues were up for about 95% of the game and all there top dogs went big, plus Dee's looked like they shared the effort across the whole team.

Marc Murphy 3 - Tom McDonald 2 - Clayton Oliver 1 for mine.

I would of thought Kruezer had to poll. Dominated. Carlton should have never of lost.

Kruez, Murph, Oliver id of gone.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 12, 2017, 10:16:56 PM
Martin (place) into Burton (rising star) into Geelong as Highest Vic Team finishing ladder position is MONEY FOR JAM!
Short & sweet. Combined Odds - 3.75$ on TAB

That's not money for jam

Burton is super impressive and will be a jet - he'll be right up there but SPP would be my tip to take it out. Such a bull

1. SPP
2, Burton
3, McGrath

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Jukes on July 12, 2017, 10:32:27 PM
SPP isn't in the same caliber as Burts and Pigeon. I'd go with the former as the rising star and the latter as the best first year player.

(http://i.imgur.com/5WMcYJu.jpg)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on July 12, 2017, 11:33:59 PM
Curnow > SPP, McGrath, Burton
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on July 13, 2017, 01:31:13 AM
Ive been way too busy with life to do votes in the last 6-7 weeks, way too busy with work. Would be difficult to see either Danger or Dusty get rolled.

I did do votes for Brisbane v Geelong as I was at the game. Was 1 game I had a good look at. 3 Zorko 2 Danger 1 Duncan.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 15, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
Havent posted mine up in a few weeks but heres my leaderboard to the end of riund 16. Quickly becomong a two horse race.

26-
P.Dangerfield

25-

24-

23-

22-

21-
D.Martin

20-

19-
T.Mitchell

18-
R.Sloane

17-

16-
O.Wines

15-
Z.Merrett, J.Kelly, J.Selwood, M.Bontempelli

14-
D.Zorko, G.Ablett, JP.Kennedy

13-
R.Laird, M.Walters

12-
S.Pendlebury

11-
M.Murphy, B.Gibbs, L.Neale, N.Jones, A.Gaff

10-
T.Adams, A.Treloar, C.Oliver, B.Cunnington, J.Billings

9-
T.Greene, C.Ward, R.Gray, S.Ross, L.Shuey

8-
T.Rockliff, D.Beams, S.Docherty, N.Fyfe, M.Duncan, J.Viney, T.Cotchin
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on July 15, 2017, 05:28:28 PM
Three more to Paddy
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 16, 2017, 04:16:08 PM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on July 16, 2017, 04:20:55 PM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger

A large amount of who's money?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 16, 2017, 04:22:39 PM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger

A large amount of who's money?

what?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on July 16, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger

Danger - Martin quin? Anyone done the maths on what it will open up as?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2017, 05:24:53 PM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger

Danger - Martin quin? Anyone done the maths on what it will open up as?

Still waiting for this market to open up

Absolute certainty that they finish 1 and 2 as long as they both stay fit or don't get rubbed out

Titch to place/Top 5 I'll be going with too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 16, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger

Danger - Martin quin? Anyone done the maths on what it will open up as?

Will be opening at $1.05 after this weeks game... Maybe less. Its a sure thing. The trifecta will be where its at. Even thats gonna have shower odds this year...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 17, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger

Danger - Martin quin? Anyone done the maths on what it will open up as?

Will be opening at $1.05 after this weeks game... Maybe less. Its a sure thing. The trifecta will be where its at. Even thats gonna have shower odds this year...

I'll prob get on Danger/Martin/Titchell, hopefully it opens up before Titch's odds drop even further!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 17, 2017, 01:58:40 PM
anyone else tempted to put a large amount on Danger

Danger - Martin quin? Anyone done the maths on what it will open up as?

Will be opening at $1.05 after this weeks game... Maybe less. Its a sure thing. The trifecta will be where its at. Even thats gonna have shower odds this year...

I'll prob get on Danger/Martin/Titchell, hopefully it opens up before Titch's odds drop even further!

yeah its a joke how it doesnt open early. Think they know they would lose too much money on putting out odds now. Think they literally wait like a week or 2 before brownlow medal night for these kind of markets. The way it's looking your tri might be paying $1.50 to come in that order. Still, i like those odds haha. Sportsbet last year let people create their own bets then they put them up. That might be the way to go this year. For example Go danger and Dusty to go 30+ votes and then do Titch 25+ if he gets a few more plus 3s and see what odds they would offer for that. Be more than a trifecta id say.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 21, 2017, 09:02:19 PM
tonight going to be tough to give points
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2017, 04:05:24 AM
Sloane 3 then M Crouch or Danger could be any order for Crouch/Danger
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on July 22, 2017, 05:02:10 AM
Sloane 3 then M Crouch or Danger could be any order for Crouch/Danger

No way danger gets votes tonight. I'd have it has Sloane, Douglas, Crouch
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 22, 2017, 05:57:35 PM
Sloane 3 then M Crouch or Danger could be any order for Crouch/Danger

No way danger gets votes tonight. I'd have it has Sloane, Douglas, Crouch

Agree, Danger wont figure at all. Sloane, Douglas, M.Crouch.  Selwood and B.Crouch also aead of Danger.

Danger still going to win it easy though.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: PowerBug on July 22, 2017, 06:00:46 PM
Dangerfield was not any good last night. Chances are he could sneak in for one but I'd not be surprised to see Rory Laird poll before Dangerfield.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 22, 2017, 06:35:51 PM
For me Sloane clearly the 3. The 2 and 1 will go to the crouch brother or Douglas..... Probably Matt crouch for 2. Douglas for 1.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 23, 2017, 04:30:06 PM
And Dusty takes the lead again...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 23, 2017, 09:54:03 PM
Round 18                  
Crows vs Cats   Sloane   3   Douglas   2   M. Crouch   1
Bombers vs Roos   Hooker   3   Heppell   2   Merrett   1
Dees vs Power   Hibberd   3   Oliver   2   Hogan   1
Dogs vs Suns   Picken   3   Hunter   2   Dahlhaus   1
Swans vs Saints   Sinclair   3   Parker   2   Ross   1
Dockers vs Hawks   Gunston   3   Mitchell   2   Breust   1
Tigers vs Giants   Martin   3   Ward   2   Cotchin   1
Pies vs Eagles   De Goey   3   Kennedy   2   Treloar   1
Lions vs Blues   Zorko   3   Beams   2   Murphy   1

Leaderboard
32 - Dusty
31 - Danger
25 - Titchell
22 - Sloane
20 - Ablett
19 - Bont/Zerrett
18 - Jelwood/Zorko
16 - Murphy/Laird
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on July 24, 2017, 11:41:30 AM
The only teams leaders that are line ball from now on:
coll - v hard - pendles maybe treloar maybe adams as a smokey
freo - fyfe neale walters
melb - oliver viney (njones could get it but is inj for 1-2 more)
port - winers or gray
wc - shuey, gaff, yeo
stk - ross, steven, billings

Anyone else can clarify if they have any one of these teams outright leaders?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 26, 2017, 09:29:29 AM
My current leaderboard.
 
30-
29-
P.Dangerfield
28-
27-
D.Martin
26-
25-
24-
23-
T.Mitchell
22-
21-
R.Sloane
20-
19-
18-
 Z.Merret
17-
G.Ablett, O.Wines, M.Bontempelli, D.Zorko
16-
15-
J.Kelly, J.Selwood
14-
JP.Kennedy, R.Laird
13-
 M.Walters
12-
S.Pendlebury, B.Gibbs, A.Gaff, C.Ward
11-
M.Murphy, L.Neale, N.Jones, C.Oliver
10-
T.Adams, A.Treloar, B.Cunnington, J.Billings, D.Beams, T.Cotchin
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 26, 2017, 10:52:46 AM
Ade - Sloane 21, Laird 14, M.Crouch 7

Sloane then daylight. Laird should beat Crouch but not a certainty. Crouch ahead of Laird in the market so if they open a without Sloane market jump on.

Bris - Zorko 17, Beams 10, Rocky 8.

Zorkos recent form should see him pull away comfortably late in the season at $1.25 one for the multis if odds stay the same

Carl - Gibbs 12, Murphy 11, Docherty 8, Cripps 6, Kruezer 5.

Very tough to pick. Half backs and rucks don't generally poll well so hard to know how Doch and Kruzer will go. Docherty good value @ $6.

Coll

Pendles 12,  Treloar/Adams 10, Grundy 7, DeGoey 5

With Pendles out for the year back one of Adams or Treloar to pass him. Grundy value at 40s! Being a high possession ruckman helps for the Brownlow and could sneak out a win.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2017, 11:13:02 AM
Will have to check my team votes when I get some free time, but off the top of my head...

Laird definitely in 2nd place for me behind Sloane.

Not certain, but pretty sure I have Murphy ahead for Carlton, started the season of fire with a few BOG's and his recent form has been very good.

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 05:10:21 PM
Have all my votes done, but haven't updated my leaderboard since R14, so will just post up my weekly leaderboard after each round as I go through



Leaderboard after Round 14:   
25   Patrick Dangerfield
23   Dustin Martin
19   Rory Sloane
15   Josh Kelly, Gary Ablett
14   Joel Selwood
13   Luke Shuey, Ollie Wines, Josh P Kennedy, Zach Merrett, Marcus Bontempelli
12   Tom Mitchell
11   Adam Treloar, Trent Cotchin, Dayne Zorko
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Dayne Beams, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Jack Billings



Leaderboard after Round 15:   
28   Patrick Dangerfield
26   Dustin Martin
19   Rory Sloane
17   Gary Ablett
15   Josh Kelly, Tom Mitchell
14   Joel Selwood, Josh P Kennedy, Dayne Zorko
13   Luke Shuey, Ollie Wines, Zach Merrett, Marcus Bontempelli
11   Adam Treloar, Trent Cotchin, Jack Billings
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Dayne Beams, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Bryce Gibbs
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 05:33:13 PM
Leaderboard after Round 16:   
30   Patrick Dangerfield
26   Dustin Martin
19   Rory Sloane
18   Tom Mitchell
17   Gary Ablett, Josh Kelly, Dayne Zorko
14   Joel Selwood, Josh P Kennedy, Zach Merrett
13   Luke Shuey, Ollie Wines, Marcus Bontempelli
12   Rory Laird
11   Adam Treloar, Trent Cotchin, Jack Billings, Lance Franklin
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Dayne Beams, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Bryce Gibbs, Nat Fyfe, Michael Walters, Marc Murphy, Robbie Gray
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 05:47:22 PM
Leaderboard after Round 17:   
33   Patrick Dangerfield
29   Dustin Martin
20   Tom Mitchell, Gary Ablett
19   Rory Sloane
18   Josh Kelly
17   Dayne Zorko
16   Josh P Kennedy, Marcus Bontempelli
15   Joel Selwood
14   Zach Merrett, Ollie Wines, Lance Franklin
13   Luke Shuey, Rory Laird
12   Trent Cotchin, Bryce Gibbs
11   Adam Treloar, Jack Billings, Joe Daniher, Andrew Gaff
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Dayne Beams, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Nat Fyfe, Michael Walters, Marc Murphy, Robbie Gray
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 06:48:35 PM
Leaderboard after Round 18:   
33   Patrick Dangerfield
32   Dustin Martin
22   Rory Sloane, Tom Mitchell
20   Gary Ablett, Dayne Zorko
18   Josh Kelly, Josh P Kennedy
16   Marcus Bontempelli
15   Joel Selwood, Lance Franklin
14   Zach Merrett, Ollie Wines
13   Luke Shuey, Rory Laird, Trent Cotchin
12   Bryce Gibbs, Adam Treloar, Dayne Beams
11   Jack Billings, Joe Daniher, Andrew Gaff, Callan Ward
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Nat Fyfe, Michael Walters, Marc Murphy, Robbie Gray
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2017, 07:06:53 PM
Teams
Crows - Sloane 22, Laird 16, M.Crouch 8
Lions - Zorko 18, Beams/Rocky 9
Blues - Murphy 16, Gibbs 13, Doch 11
Pies - Treloar 12, Pendles/Adams 9
Bombers - Zerrett 19, Daniher 7, Heppell 6
Dockers - Walters 11, Fyfe 10, Neale 9
Cats - Danger 31, Jelwood 18
Suns - Ablett 20, Lynch 5
Giants - Kelly 14, Ward/Cameron 11
Hawks - Mitchell 25, Burgoyne 6
Dees - Jones/Viney 9, Watts/McDonald 6, Oliver 5
Roos - Cunnington 6, Higgins 4
Power - Gray/Wines 13, Wingard 11
Tigers - Dusty 32, Cotchin 13
Saints - Billings 11, Ross 9, Riewoldt 8
Swans - Buddy 15, JPK 14
Eagles - Yeo 13, Gaff 11, Shuey 9
Dogs - Bont 19, Dahl 7
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 07:12:36 PM
In regards to team leaders:

Laird a few votes ahead of BTB (minus Sloane)
Zorko miles ahead of Beams and Rocky now
Gibbs just ahead of Murphy (who is just ahead of Docherty)
Treloar just ahead of Pendles (who is just ahead of both Adams and Sidey)
Zerrett just ahead of Daniher
Fyfe and Walters tied, just ahead of Mundy and Neale
Jelwood (minus Danger)
Suns without Ablett will be tough, I have Lynch just ahead atm
Kelly for GWS, Ward without him, just ahead of Shiel
Have Burgoyne just ahead without TMitch, but Hawks will be really tough for 2nd
Dees another tough one, Jones just ahead for me atm, Viney/Hibberd/Lewis/Tmac all right behind him (Oliver following those guys)
North again another tough one for me, have Ben Brown ahead now, with Higgins and Cunnington a vote behind, and Waite just behind them
Wines a few votes ahead for Port
Cotch without Dusty for the Tigs
Billings just ahead of Ross for the Saints
JPK just ahead of Buddy for the Swans, but this could be much closer
Shuey just ahead of Gaff and Yeo for the Eagles, will be another tough one to pick. Yeo may not poll as well as I think, but we'll see
Dahl without Bont for the Dogs
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 07:14:50 PM
Teams
Crows - Sloane 22, Laird 16, M.Crouch 8
Lions - Zorko 18, Beams/Rocky 9
Blues - Murphy 16, Gibbs 13, Doch 11
Pies - Treloar 12, Pendles/Adams 9
Bombers - Zerrett 19, Daniher 7, Heppell 6
Dockers - Walters 11, Fyfe 10, Neale 9
Cats - Danger 31, Jelwood 18
Suns - Ablett 20, Lynch 5
Giants - Kelly 14, Ward/Cameron 11
Hawks - Mitchell 25, Burgoyne 6
Dees - Jones/Viney 9, Watts/McDonald 6, Oliver 5
Roos - Cunnington 6, Higgins 4
Power - Gray/Wines 13, Wingard 11
Tigers - Dusty 32, Cotchin 13
Saints - Billings 11, Ross 9, Riewoldt 8
Swans - Buddy 15, JPK 14
Eagles - Yeo 13, Gaff 11, Shuey 9
Dogs - Bont 19, Dahl 7
Most of this is very very close to what I have atm, which is good I reckon :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 26, 2017, 07:30:37 PM
Ess - Merrett 18, Daniher 7, Hooker/Heppell 6

Merret easy. Have a look at Hooker at odds if theres an without Merrett market?

Fre - Walters 13, Neale 11, Fyfe 8.

Walters at $10 currently looks good even if he is out for the year. Otherwise Fyfe looks to have better form than Neale currently and is the proven vote getter.

GC - Ablett 17, Lyons 6, Lynch 5.

Ablett easy. Lyons is 8th in the betting so could be good odds in an without Ablett market.

GWS - Kelly 15, Ward 12, Greene 9, Cameron/Shiel 7.

Ward at $8 serious value right now, Kelly' form has droppeda little the last month and Ward in hot form. Dont rate Shiel a chance even though he is $5. Definately dont get on Kelly at $1.20

Geel - Danger 29, Selwood 15, Duncan 8.

Other those mentioned have no one at Geelong on more than 2 votes! Not much value in that market.

Haw - Mitchell 22, Burgoyne/Gunston 6

Mitchel easy, anyones after that.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on July 26, 2017, 07:34:26 PM
Have a feeling Oliver could poll the most for dees, has easily been the best performed mid for us over the season
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 07:35:58 PM
Have a feeling Oliver could poll the most for dees, has easily been the best performed mid for us over the season
While he is the best performed, he has so many games where he is top 5 for the game but may not poll. Will be interesting to see how many votes he picks up.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on July 26, 2017, 07:45:16 PM
Have a feeling Oliver could poll the most for dees, has easily been the best performed mid for us over the season
While he is the best performed, he has so many games where he is top 5 for the game but may not poll. Will be interesting to see how many votes he picks up.

I feel like his clearance/contested work could make him stand out a fair bit
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2017, 07:55:31 PM
Have a feeling Oliver could poll the most for dees, has easily been the best performed mid for us over the season
While he is the best performed, he has so many games where he is top 5 for the game but may not poll. Will be interesting to see how many votes he picks up.

I feel like his clearance/contested work could make him stand out a fair bit

No history, no votes, thats the rule in Brownlow, don't be surprised to see him on bugger all by the end.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 26, 2017, 10:38:57 PM
so Billings @4.00 is good value?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
so Billings @4.00 is good value?

Seems like it, we all have him in front by the looks of it...I normally wait till you can multi them though.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 26, 2017, 10:45:49 PM
so Billings @4.00 is good value?

Seems like it, we all have him in front by the looks of it...I normally wait till you can multi them though.

cheers and could u pls post who u have leading after rnd 5 and 10 again
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 26, 2017, 10:51:04 PM
so Billings @4.00 is good value?

Seems like it, we all have him in front by the looks of it...I normally wait till you can multi them though.

cheers and could u pls post who u have leading after rnd 5 and 10 again
I have Danger ahead of Sloaney by a vote after 5 (but could go either way)

And Sloaney ahead of Danger by 1 after 10, with Dusty 1 vote behind Danger as well
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 26, 2017, 11:00:46 PM
Was a bit surprised to see AFL.com's current predictor

They have Dusty on 29 and Danger on 24  :o

I wouldn't touch Billings KB. Ross or Steven should beat him
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 26, 2017, 11:19:57 PM
really like Wards value too  the inform GWS mid right now  worth putting $50 on
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2017, 11:25:53 PM
so Billings @4.00 is good value?

Seems like it, we all have him in front by the looks of it...I normally wait till you can multi them though.

cheers and could u pls post who u have leading after rnd 5 and 10 again

I've got Sloane in front of Danger by 2 votes after round 5, Sloane had 3 x BOG's in that space of time, while Danger was good, so was Jelwood and Duncan.

I've got Sloane ahead by 1 vote over Dusty after round 10, I wouldn't touch this one cos Dusty could take it.

I'll be all over Sloane after round 5.  The odds seem to keep dropping too.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 26, 2017, 11:29:32 PM
Here's another website I have been keeping an eye on.  Count after round 18. 

(http://i.imgur.com/ivqDZGm.jpg)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 27, 2017, 12:18:06 AM
lol even the afl predictor has sloane after round 5 what are sportsbet on
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on July 27, 2017, 06:20:14 PM
I've been that busy with work I stopped doing a count weeks ago but from watching the games does anyone expect Danger or Dusty not to win?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on July 27, 2017, 06:42:18 PM
I've been that busy with work I stopped doing a count weeks ago but from watching the games does anyone expect Danger or Dusty not to win?

Put every dollar you can spare on those 2 for the Quinella
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 27, 2017, 07:04:39 PM
I've been that busy with work I stopped doing a count weeks ago but from watching the games does anyone expect Danger or Dusty not to win?

Put every dollar you can spare on those 2 for the Quinella

Will be paying $1.05. Dont waste your time haha.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 27, 2017, 07:21:48 PM
I've been that busy with work I stopped doing a count weeks ago but from watching the games does anyone expect Danger or Dusty not to win?

Put every dollar you can spare on those 2 for the Quinella

Will be paying $1.05. Dont waste your time haha.

Exacta, Dusty-Danger I'm thinking, Tigers have a much easier run home.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 27, 2017, 07:59:11 PM
really like Wards value too  the inform GWS mid right now  worth putting $50 on

Agree, in hot form and a good poller in the past. Kelly slowed down a little recently too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 27, 2017, 08:12:43 PM
Melb - Jones/Oliver 11, Viney 8

Jones at $9 serious value here. Wouldnt touch Oliver at under $2. Is a chance but no polling history, and though amongst the best 3 or 4 in a lot of games they havent been clear BOGs.

NM - Cunnington 10, Higgins 7, Ziebell 4

Really have no idea here. Sportsbet have it right with Cunnington/Higgins $2-3 each

PA - Wines 17, Gray/Wingard 9, Boak/Ebert 6

Think Wines at $2.50 behind Gray at $2 is crazy. Wouldnt touch ebert at $4, just dont think the way he plays attracts votes. Will be getting Wines to anchor some multis for sure here!

Rich - Martin 27, Cotchin 10, Riewoldt 7

Martin has it in the bag, no value. Riewoldt a chance to knock off Cotchin for second but probably not.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: The_Captain on July 27, 2017, 11:06:44 PM
Its bullshower that you cant multi them up yet....
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 28, 2017, 11:24:14 AM
Its bullshower that you cant multi them up yet....

Anyone checked the Tab site?  I think only TAB and SB eventually allow multis...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 28, 2017, 12:02:08 PM
Its bullshower that you cant multi them up yet....

Anyone checked the Tab site?  I think only TAB and SB eventually allow multis...

Just checked and it looks like TAB are allowing team multi's now, didn't put a bet on, but the option with multi odds pops up so I assume so.  Only about 7 team markets up though, and they are either dead certs or real iffy ones so I'll wait till I get a bit before I bet.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on July 29, 2017, 10:28:04 PM
Regardless of a possible suspension,

Dusty +3 and Danger +0 after tonight makes it interesting
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 30, 2017, 11:27:54 AM
Regardless of a possible suspension,

Dusty +3 and Danger +0 after tonight makes it interesting

Lock Dusty in i reckon. Dangers first half of the year is looking like its taking its toll on him.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 30, 2017, 09:25:23 PM
Round 19                  
Hawks vs Swans   Roughhead   3   Shiels   2   Sicily   1
Roos vs Dees   Oliver   3   Swallow   2   Brown   1
Giants vs Dockers   Fyfe   3   Shiel   2   Ryan   1
Power vs Saints   Gray   3   Ross   2   Ryder   1
Suns vs Tigers   Martin   3   Rioli   2   Hall   1
Blues vs Cats   Hawkins   3   Duncan   2   Smith   1
Dogs vs Bombers   Bontempelli   3   Daniher   2   Johanison   1
Pies vs Crows   Adams   3   Wells   2   M. Crouch   1
Eagles vs Lions   Kennedy   3   Shuey   2   Beams   1

Leaderboard
35 - Dusty
31 - Danger
25 - Mitchell
22 - Sloane/Bont
20 - Ablett
19 - Merrett
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on July 31, 2017, 04:09:21 PM
Dusty $1.20
wow
Titch into $5.50, thanks again sportsbet for the $126-1 odds
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 31, 2017, 08:23:51 PM
Dusty $1.20
wow
Titch into $5.50, thanks again sportsbet for the $126-1 odds

Nice. I have him at 80-1. Dusty has two fines right? Oje more strike and he is out, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 31, 2017, 08:47:47 PM
Dusty $1.20
wow
Titch into $5.50, thanks again sportsbet for the $126-1 odds

Nice. I have him at 80-1. Dusty has two fines right? Oje more strike and he is out, fingers crossed!

I got him at 81-1, cash out is $140, c'mon, you can do better than that Sportsbet!  ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 31, 2017, 08:49:26 PM
Leaders at end of Round 19

30- D.Martin
29- P.Dangerfield


23- T.Mitchell
22-
21- R.Sloane
20- M.Bontempelli
19-
18- Z.Merret
17- G.Ablett, O.Wines, D.Zorko
16-
15- J.Kelly, J.Selwood
14- JP.Kennedy, R.Laird, C.Oliver
13- M.Walters
12- S.Pendlebury, B.Gibbs, A.Gaff, C.Ward, T.Adams, R.Gray
11-  M.Murphy, L.Neale, N.Jones, D.Beams, N.Fyfe, S.Ross, JJ.Kennedy
10- A.Treloar, B.Cunnington, J.Billings, T.Cotchin, M.Duncan
9- T.Greene, L.Shuey, C.Wingard, D.Hannebery, J.Macrae, J.Daniher
8- T.Rockliff, S.Docherty, J.Viney, M.Crouch, D.Shiel, S.Higgins

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2017, 10:05:06 PM
@jvalles @DMAC thoughts on why u have Dusty on diff points ? guessing just a vote less every so often
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 31, 2017, 10:12:17 PM
@jvalles @DMAC thoughts on why u have Dusty on diff points ? guessing just a vote less every so often
Because they have different opinions for each and every game? Just like the umps likely will? :P

I have Dusty on 35 fwiw though, will post my round votes soon probably
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: PowerBug on July 31, 2017, 10:44:51 PM
Only now thing I can say is no way three players end with 27+ votes like is looking here.

Cotchin has always been a polling machine and will take votes you don't expect.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on July 31, 2017, 10:46:25 PM
@jvalles @DMAC thoughts on why u have Dusty on diff points ? guessing just a vote less every so often
Because they have different opinions for each and every game? Just like the umps likely will? :P

I have Dusty on 35 fwiw though, will post my round votes soon probably

Yeah everyone sees things a little different, I tend to be generous to proven pollers because historically thats what seems to happen (not all the time).  I've seen a few polls where they don't think Dusty can possibly be on any less than 34 at this point of the season.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 31, 2017, 10:50:48 PM
Only now thing I can say is no way three players end with 27+ votes like is looking here.

Cotchin has always been a polling machine and will take votes you don't expect.
How many usually go 20+? I wouldn't be surprised if it was under 10 at this rate tbh, which seems lower than usual. A couple larger standouts this year, and not as many guys regularly picking up a vote or two here and there.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on July 31, 2017, 10:55:00 PM
@jvalles @DMAC thoughts on why u have Dusty on diff points ? guessing just a vote less every so often
Because they have different opinions for each and every game? Just like the umps likely will? :P

I have Dusty on 35 fwiw though, will post my round votes soon probably
Round 19

Hawthorn vs Sydney   
3   Liam Shiels
2   Jarryd Roughead
1   Tom Papley
   
North Melbourne vs Melbourne   
3   Shaun Higgins
2   Clayton Oliver
1   Ben Brown
   
Greater Western Sydney vs Fremantle   
3   Nat Fyfe
2   Josh Kelly
1   Stephen Coniglio

Port Adelaide vs St Kilda   
3   Robbie Gray
2   Luke Dunstan
1   Patrick Ryder
   
Gold Coast vs Richmond   
3   Dustin Martin
2   Aaron Hall
1   Trent Cotchin
   
Carlton vs Geelong   
3   Tom Hawkins
2   Mitch Duncan
1   Zac Smith

Western Bulldogs vs Essendon   
3   Marcus Bontempelli
2   Joe Daniher
1   Jason Johannisen
   
Collingwood vs Adelaide   
3   Daniel Wells
2   Taylor Adams
1   Matt Crouch
   
West Coast vs Brisbane   
3   Josh J Kennedy
2   Dayne Beams
1   Dom Sheed

Will get leaderboard up tomorrow. I have Dusty 2 ahead of Danger though, with Bont and Kelly the only other guys in the top 5/10 polling this week
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 31, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
@jvalles @DMAC thoughts on why u have Dusty on diff points ? guessing just a vote less every so often
Because they have different opinions for each and every game? Just like the umps likely will? :P

I have Dusty on 35 fwiw though, will post my round votes soon probably

i know but was thinking they could compare each others votes see which games they voted diff etc
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on July 31, 2017, 11:34:47 PM
@jvalles @DMAC thoughts on why u have Dusty on diff points ? guessing just a vote less every so often
Because they have different opinions for each and every game? Just like the umps likely will? :P

I have Dusty on 35 fwiw though, will post my round votes soon probably

i know but was thinking they could compare each others votes see which games they voted diff etc

Definately worth doing at the end of season for a few of the favorites having a round by round comparison. Dusty for example i have as below to this point.

D.Martin:  3 - 3 - - - 1 - 3 3 3 B - 3 2 - 3 3 3
P.Danger: 2 2 3 - - - 2 - 3 2 3 1 B 3 3 2 3 - -

And so on
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
Danger not contesting so wonder how long until the pay out Dusty bets
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on August 01, 2017, 10:51:17 AM
Danger not contesting so wonder how long until the pay out Dusty bets
Why would they do that when Titch will take it ?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Rusty00 on August 01, 2017, 10:57:56 AM
Danger not contesting so wonder how long until the pay out Dusty bets
Why would they do that when Titch will take it, after the Hawks bait Dusty into getting suspended this week?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 01, 2017, 11:00:58 AM
So far Crownbet has agreed to payout if Danger gets the most votes, however not in multi's.  :(
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2017, 11:52:46 AM
they have payed out early previous years
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 01, 2017, 12:11:33 PM
Leaderboard after Round 19:   
35   Dustin Martin
33   Patrick Dangerfield
22   Rory Sloane, Tom Mitchell
20   Gary Ablett, Dayne Zorko, Josh Kelly
19   Marcus Bontempelli
18   Josh P Kennedy
15   Joel Selwood, Lance Franklin
14   Zach Merrett, Ollie Wines, Trent Cotchin, Dayne Beams
13   Luke Shuey, Rory Laird, Nat Fyfe, Robbie Gray, Joe Daniher
12   Bryce Gibbs, Adam Treloar
11   Jack Billings, Andrew Gaff, Callan Ward, Taylor Adams, Josh J Kennedy
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Michael Walters, Marc Murphy, Mitch Duncan, Matt Crouch
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Rusty00 on August 01, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
Leaderboard after Round 19:   
35   Dustin Martin
33   Patrick Dangerfield
22   Rory Sloane, Tom Mitchell
20   Gary Ablett, Dayne Zorko, Josh Kelly
19   Marcus Bontempelli
18   Josh P Kennedy
15   Joel Selwood, Lance Franklin
14   Zach Merrett, Ollie Wines, Trent Cotchin, Dayne Beams
13   Luke Shuey, Rory Laird, Nat Fyfe, Robbie Gray, Joe Daniher
12   Bryce Gibbs, Adam Treloar
11   Jack Billings, Andrew Gaff, Callan Ward, Taylor Adams, Josh J Kennedy
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Michael Walters, Marc Murphy, Mitch Duncan, Matt Crouch
Would be an interesting count if Dusty was suspended as well :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 01, 2017, 01:52:26 PM
Leaderboard after Round 19:   
35   Dustin Martin
33   Patrick Dangerfield
22   Rory Sloane, Tom Mitchell
20   Gary Ablett, Dayne Zorko, Josh Kelly
19   Marcus Bontempelli
18   Josh P Kennedy
15   Joel Selwood, Lance Franklin
14   Zach Merrett, Ollie Wines, Trent Cotchin, Dayne Beams
13   Luke Shuey, Rory Laird, Nat Fyfe, Robbie Gray, Joe Daniher
12   Bryce Gibbs, Adam Treloar
11   Jack Billings, Andrew Gaff, Callan Ward, Taylor Adams, Josh J Kennedy
10   Elliott Yeo, Scott Pendlebury, Nathan Jones, Dylan Shiel, Michael Walters, Marc Murphy, Mitch Duncan, Matt Crouch
Would be an interesting count if Dusty was suspended as well :P

Im on Sloane at 20s and Mitchell 100s so hoping Dusty belts someone this week   8)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 01, 2017, 02:00:14 PM
@jvalles @DMAC thoughts on why u have Dusty on diff points ? guessing just a vote less every so often
Because they have different opinions for each and every game? Just like the umps likely will? :P

I have Dusty on 35 fwiw though, will post my round votes soon probably

i know but was thinking they could compare each others votes see which games they voted diff etc

Definately worth doing at the end of season for a few of the favorites having a round by round comparison. Dusty for example i have as below to this point.

D.Martin:  3 - 3 - - - 1 - 3 3 3 B - 3 2 - 3 3 3
P.Danger: 2 2 3 - - - 2 - 3 2 3 1 B 3 3 2 3 - -

And so on
Yeah, sounds good! This is what I have for Dusty and Danger atm

Dusty: 3 1 3 - 1 - 2 1 3 3 3 B - 3 3 - 3 3 3
Danger: 3 3 3 - 2 - 1 - 3 3 2 B 2 3 3 2 3 - -
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 01, 2017, 03:20:22 PM
Alright, so with Danger out of the picture Dusty won't even be worth putting money on

Looks like this year I'll be looking at other markets. Most team votes, groups, Top 3, Top 5 etc
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 01, 2017, 03:38:13 PM
Alright, so with Danger out of the picture Dusty won't even be worth putting money on

Looks like this year I'll be looking at other markets. Most team votes, groups, Top 3, Top 5 etc
fwiw

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Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 01, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
I have similar on a lot of these. Few differences.

Ade: 21- Sloane, 14- Laird, 8- M.Crouch, 7- Walker
Bris: 17- Zorko, 11- Beams, 8- Rockliff
Carl: 12- Gibbs, 11- Murphy, 8- Docherty
Coll: 12- Pendlebiry/Adams, 10-Treloar, 7- Grundy
Ess: 18- Merrett, 9- Daniher
Fre: 13- Walters, 11- Fyfe/Neale
GC: 17- Ablett, 6- Lyons, 5- Lynch/Hall
GWS: 15- Kelly, 12- Ward, 9- Greene, 8- Shiel
Geel: 29- Dangerfield, 15- Selwood, 10-Duncan
Haw: 23- Mitchell, 6- Burgoyne/Roughead
Melb: 14- Oliver, 11- Jones, 8- Viney
NM: 10- Cunnington, 8- Higgins
PA: 17- Winnes, 12- R.Gray, 9- Wingard
Rich: 30- Martin, 10- Cotchib, 8- Riewoldt
St.K: 10- Billings/Ross, 6- Steven/Riewoldt/Roberton
Syd: 14- Kennedy, 9- Hannebery, 7- Parker/Franklin
WC: 12- Gaff, 11- Kennedy, 9- Shuey, 7-Mitchell/Yeo
WB: 20- Bontempelli, 9- Macrae, 6- Dahlhaus
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: fanTCfool on August 01, 2017, 05:05:27 PM
Alright, so with Danger out of the picture Dusty won't even be worth putting money on

Looks like this year I'll be looking at other markets. Most team votes, groups, Top 3, Top 5 etc
fwiw

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Surely Brisbane couldn't poll more than Hawthorn & the Doggies, and nearly double North Melbourne?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 01, 2017, 05:31:53 PM
Alright, so with Danger out of the picture Dusty won't even be worth putting money on

Looks like this year I'll be looking at other markets. Most team votes, groups, Top 3, Top 5 etc
fwiw

(https://i.gyazo.com/ad53d50d42943b940831e7f553c1f798.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/2fb0465149979b3dd07186f7e0aacad0.png)

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Surely Brisbane couldn't poll more than Hawthorn & the Doggies, and nearly double North Melbourne?
North haven't had any standout players, and the Hawks have only really had Tmitch. Dogs rarely have standouts either apart from the Bont. Zorko and Beams have played a lot of very very good games, and I'd expect them to poll quite well.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 01, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Danger 3 3 2 - 1 - - 1 3 2 2 - 2 3 3 3 3 - -  = 31
Dusty 3 - 3 - 2 - 2 1 3 3 3 - 1 2 3 - 3 3 3  = 35
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on August 01, 2017, 11:26:40 PM
If I had money on Titch at the start of the year or in a position to cash out I would.

He won't get near Dusty. No one will.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 02, 2017, 09:21:49 AM
If I had money on Titch at the start of the year or in a position to cash out I would.

He won't get near Dusty. No one will.

Nope, but Dusty can still get suspended.  I'm holding for a few more good games from Titch to boost the cashout option.

Top 3 is intersting now with Sloane, Bont, Ablett and Zerrett floating around.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 02, 2017, 09:27:53 AM
Apparently TAB is refunding Danger bets including multi's, hopefully all follow.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 02, 2017, 11:58:06 AM
https://www.triplem.com.au/news/melbourne/dane-swan-s-hilarious-poolside-advice-for-dustin-martin
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 02, 2017, 01:28:56 PM
If I had money on Titch at the start of the year or in a position to cash out I would.

He won't get near Dusty. No one will.

Have $10 in him at 80-1 with a cash out option of $140. A bit torn. Dusty is on two strikes, but surely he can make it 4 more rounds without getting done.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 02, 2017, 01:32:58 PM
If I had money on Titch at the start of the year or in a position to cash out I would.

He won't get near Dusty. No one will.

Have $10 in him at 80-1 with a cash out option of $140. A bit torn. Dusty is on two strikes, but surely he can make it 4 more rounds without getting done.

I'm in the identical posi as you, the cash out option will/should be there till the night of the Brownlow you would think anyway.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 03, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
what u guys got Wines on after rnd 5? predictor has him on 9 equal with Sloane
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 03, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
what u guys got Wines on after rnd 5? predictor has him on 9 equal with Sloane

Not sure, but have Sloane on 11 and danger on 9.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 03, 2017, 02:18:37 PM
what u guys got Wines on after rnd 5? predictor has him on 9 equal with Sloane
Equal 3rd on 9 behind Danger and Sloane
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 03, 2017, 10:10:26 PM
At round 5 I have it as below.

Leaders

10-
R.Sloane

9-

8-
O.Wines
J.Selwood

7-
P.Dangerfield

6-
D.Martin, T.Rockliff, M.Duncan
R.Gray,T..Greene, C.Oliver

5-
Z.Merrett, M.Murphy T.Mitchell
L.Shuey, D.Mundy, N.Fyfe
J.Riewoldt, A.Treloar, D.Beams
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on August 03, 2017, 11:00:57 PM
If I had money on Titch at the start of the year or in a position to cash out I would.

He won't get near Dusty. No one will.

Have $10 in him at 80-1 with a cash out option of $140. A bit torn. Dusty is on two strikes, but surely he can make it 4 more rounds without getting done.

Titch is $5 with the corporates ATM. Why not cash out now and put say $40 or $50 back on him at the current odds? Either way you get a profit. Use the rest on team vote multi's etc.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 08, 2017, 10:57:42 AM
Round 20                  
Cats vs Swans   Parker   3   Duncan   2   S. Selwood   1
Giants vs Dees   Kelly   3   Ward   2   Gawn   1
Bombers vs Blues   Heppell   3   Murphy   2   Gibbs   1
Lions vs Dogs   Bontempelli   3   Macrae   2   Hunter   1
Roos vs Pies   Adams   3   Treloar   2   Ziebell   1
Dockers vs Suns   Neale   3   Fyfe   2   Ryan   1
Saints vs Eagles   Steele   3   Billings   2   Kennedy   1
Tigers vs Hawks   Caddy   3   Martin   2   Mitchell   1
Crows vs Power   M.Crouch   3   Sloane   2   Walker   1

Leaderboard
37 - Dusty
31 - Danger
26 - Titchell
25 - Bont
24 - Sloane
20 - Ablett
19 - Merrett
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 08, 2017, 11:00:28 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/KKFoEO7.png)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Nige on August 08, 2017, 11:05:21 AM
Might be biased but I reckon the votes for Tiges vs Hawks should be:

Caddy - 3
Dion - 2
Dusty - 1
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 08, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
Might be biased but I reckon the votes for Tiges vs Hawks should be:

Caddy - 3
Dion - 2
Dusty - 1

Could be right, didn't get a chance to watch many games this weekend so had to base it more on stats.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 09, 2017, 10:31:22 AM
i watched most of the game i'd say Dusty gets 2 at most think he was better than Prestia still
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2017, 10:34:32 AM
I was at the game

Lambert and Caddy should get the 3 and 2

Raffle the 1 off

Dusty wasn't that noticeable, besides kicking a couple in the 3rd
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Nige on August 09, 2017, 10:41:47 AM
I was at the game

Lambert and Caddy should get the 3 and 2

Raffle the 1 off

Dusty wasn't that noticeable, besides kicking a couple in the 3rd
So was I.

Thought Dion was more of a standout than Lambert.

Dusty's first half was quiet but second half was great, and might just get a vote because Dusty.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 09, 2017, 10:49:22 AM
Pretty sure coaches gave Lambert 10 too

But yeah, might be a hard one to figure out
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 09, 2017, 11:09:31 AM
Would be shocked if Dion doesn't poll tbh
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 09, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
Might be biased but I reckon the votes for Tiges vs Hawks should be:

Caddy - 3
Dion - 2
Dusty - 1

Could be right, didn't get a chance to watch many games this weekend so had to base it more on stats.

Wouldnt be surprised is Dusty gets no votes, or could get the three. I think he was 5th ir 6th best in the game but not fsr behind others like Lambert who would have no pull with the umps for votes. Im think Caddy 3, then Prestia, Lambert/Martin/Mitchell
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 14, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Round 21                  
Dogs vs Giants   Shiel   3   Kelly   2   Patton   1
Swans vs Dockers   Franklin   3   Parker   2   Hannebery   1
Cats vs Tigers   Dangerfield   3   Taylor   2   Prestia   1
Lions vs Suns   Beams   3   Rockliff   2   Martin   1
Bombers vs Crows   M.Crouch   3   Jenkins   2   Hurley   1
Eagles vs Blues   Kennedy   3   Murphy   2   Kreuzer   1
Demons vs Saints   Jones   3   Pederson   2   Billings   1
Hawks vs Roos   Gunston   3   Mitchell   2   Smith   1
Power vs Pies   Wingard   3   Adams   2   Ebert   1


Starting to see some distance in my team counts.
Adelaide - Laird and Crouch, can't split em, leave out of multis
Brisbane - Zorko
Carlton - Murphy 6 votes ahead of Gibbs
Collingwood - Adams 3 clear of Treloar
Essendon - Merrett
Freo - Fyfe pulling ahead
Geelong - Jelwood with no Danger
Gold Coast - Ablett
GWS - Kelly has pulled away
Hawthorn - Titch
Melbourne - Jones ahead by 3 but wouldn't touch it unless he has a few more good games
North - Cunnington by 2, wouldn't touch it either
Port - Gray 16, Wingard 14, Wines 13...nope
Richmond - Cotch without Dusty
St Kilda - Billings 3 ahead of Ross
Sydney - Buddy 4 ahead of JPK
West Coast - Kennedy 15, Yeo 13, Shuey/Gaff 11...will wait to see if JKK kicks a few more bags
Dogs - Bont
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 15, 2017, 01:08:46 AM
did sportsbet take down their team market
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on August 15, 2017, 01:21:46 AM
did sportsbet take down their team market
Ages ago
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 15, 2017, 09:46:51 AM
did sportsbet take down their team market
Ages ago

TAB had them up a week ago, but they are now suspended. :(
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 15, 2017, 01:26:28 PM
32-
P.Dangerfield

31-

30-
D.Martin

29-

28-

27-

26-
T.Mitchell

25-

24-
R.Sloane

23-

22-
M.Bontempelli

21-

20-

19-
J.Kelly

18-
Z.Merrett

17-
D.Zorko, G.Ablett, O.Wines

16-
T.Adams

15-
J.Selwood, C.Oliver, JJ.Kennedy

14-
R.Laird, D.Beams, M.Murphy, N.Fyfe, N.Jones, JP.Kennedy

13-
M.Walters, M.Crouch, L.Neale, C.Ward, D.Hannebery

12-
S.Pendlebury, B.Gibbs, A.Treloar, R.Gray, C.Wingard, A.Gaff, J.Macrae

11-
D.Shiel, M.Duncan, S.Ross, L.Parker

10-
T.Rockliff, B.Cunnington, T.Cotchin, J.Billings, L.Franklin

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 15, 2017, 02:20:42 PM
did sportsbet take down their team market
Ages ago

TAB had them up a week ago, but they are now suspended. :(

Most team votes is up on sportsbet now
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 16, 2017, 09:39:22 AM
they read this thread confirmed
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 16, 2017, 11:27:33 AM
they read this thread confirmed

Quote
Starting to see some distance in my team counts.
Adelaide - Laird and CrouchBetts and Walker, can't split em, leave out of multis
Brisbane - Zorko Rich FOR SURE
Carlton - Murphy Petrevski-Seton 6 votes ahead of Gibbs Wright
Collingwood - Adams Buckley
Essendon - Jackson Merrett
Freo - Fyfe pulling ahead
Geelong - JelwoodScooter with no Danger
Gold Coast - Ablett
GWS - Kelly has pulled away
Hawthorn - Titch
Melbourne - JonesVince ahead by 3 but wouldn't touch it unless he has a few more good games
North - Cunnington by 2, wouldn't touch it either
Port - Gray 16, Wingard 14, Wines 13...nope
Richmond - Cotch without Dusty
St Kilda - Billings 3 ahead of Ross
Sydney - Buddy 4 ahead of JPK
West Coast - Kennedy 15, Yeo 13, Shuey/Gaff 11...will wait to see if JKK kicks a few more bags
Dogs - BontBob

Fixed  ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 16, 2017, 03:08:49 PM
Vince ahead by 3 would touch it ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 16, 2017, 08:04:05 PM
Boom, team multi's are out on TAB.

Zorko/Merrett/Kelly/Franklin/JKK/Sloane @ $15

Zorko/Murphy/Adams/Merrett/Kelly/Buddy/Kennedy/Jones @ $890

Zorko/Murphy/Sloane/Kelly/Merrett/Jones/Billings/Buddy/JKK @ $1200

#prayforjvalles69
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 16, 2017, 09:39:20 PM
Boom, team multi's are out on TAB.

Zorko/Merrett/Kelly/Franklin/JKK/Sloane @ $15

Zorko/Murphy/Adams/Merrett/Kelly/Buddy/Kennedy/Jones @ $890

Zorko/Murphy/Sloane/Kelly/Merrett/Jones/Billings/Buddy/JKK @ $1200

#prayforjvalles69

Generaly like these but not a fan of Buddy being in all of them. Otherwise pretty spot on
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 17, 2017, 12:55:25 AM
Boom, team multi's are out on TAB.

Zorko/Merrett/Kelly/Franklin/JKK/Sloane @ $15

Zorko/Murphy/Adams/Merrett/Kelly/Buddy/Kennedy/Jones @ $890

Zorko/Murphy/Sloane/Kelly/Merrett/Jones/Billings/Buddy/JKK @ $1200

#prayforjvalles69

Generaly like these but not a fan of Buddy being in all of them. Otherwise pretty spot on

Good call, I might make a few without him.  Still a chance another player can catch Buddy, JKK, Jones, Billings, Adams imo.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 17, 2017, 01:09:29 AM
is it on the website or at the tabs couldnt find on the website
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 17, 2017, 09:04:41 AM
is it on the website or at the tabs couldnt find on the website

Yeah its' ridiculous...go to the 1 market of the Brownlow, then when you're in there click on the "AFL Medals" tab to go back and its on the bottom under BL, Coleman and Rising Star.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 21, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
Leaderboard with 1 round to go.

35-
P.Dangerfield

32-
D.Martin

29-
T.Mitchell

26-
R.Sloane

22-
M.Bontempelli, J.Kelly

18-
Z.Merrett
17-
D.Zorko, G.Ablett, O.Wines, JP.Kennedy, T.Adams, D.Beams
16-
N.Jones
15-
J.Selwood, C.Oliver, JJ.Kennedy, R.Laird, J.Macrae, M.Murphy
14-
N.Fyfe, C.Ward
13-
M.Walters, M.Crouch, L.Neale, D.Hannebery
12-
S.Pendlebury, B.Gibbs, A.Treloar, R.Gray, C.Wingard, A.Gaff, S.Ross, B.Cunnington
11-
D.Shiel, M.Duncan, L.Parker
10-
T.Rockliff, T.Cotchin, J.Billings, L.Franklin, D.Heppell, S.Docherty
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 21, 2017, 04:18:11 PM
Leaderboard with 1 round to go.

35-
P.Dangerfield

32-
D.Martin

29-
T.Mitchell

26-
R.Sloane

22-
M.Bontempelli, J.Kelly

18-
Z.Merrett
17-
D.Zorko, G.Ablett, O.Wines, JP.Kennedy, T.Adams, D.Beams
16-
N.Jones
15-
J.Selwood, C.Oliver, JJ.Kennedy, R.Laird, J.Macrae, M.Murphy
14-
N.Fyfe, C.Ward
13-
M.Walters, M.Crouch, L.Neale, D.Hannebery
12-
S.Pendlebury, B.Gibbs, A.Treloar, R.Gray, C.Wingard, A.Gaff, S.Ross, B.Cunnington
11-
D.Shiel, M.Duncan, L.Parker
10-
T.Rockliff, T.Cotchin, J.Billings, L.Franklin, D.Heppell, S.Docherty

Wow, you think Cunnington can poll that high?  If so he's a lock for North, I only have him on 6, basically given no votes to North players when they've lost by a decent margin.  I think it'll be very rare to hear any North players called out on the big night.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 21, 2017, 07:53:56 PM
Round 22                  
Crows vs Swans   Kennedy   3   Sloane   2   Franklin   1
Dogs vs Power   Macrae   3   Boak   2   Ryder   1
Pies vs Cats   Dangerfield   3   Menegola    2   Adams   1
Giants vs Eagles   Kelly   3   Ward   2   Priddis   1
Suns vs Bombers   Zaharakis   3   Bellchambers   2   Heppell   1
Blues vs Hawks   Mitchell   3   Docherty   2   Murphy   1
Demons vs Lions   Hogan   3   Pederson   2   Jones   1
Saints vs Roos   Steven   3   Dunstan   2   Ross   1
Dockers vs Tigers   Townsend   3   Martin   2   Lambert   1

Leaderboard
39 - Martin
37 - Danger
31 - Mitchell
26 - Sloane
25 - Bont
22 - Kelly
21 - Murphy
20 - Ablett
19 - Zerrett/Franklin
18 - Zorko/Adams/Selwood
17 - JPK
16 - Gray/Laird
15 - Crouch/Fyfe/JKK/Ward
14 - Gibbs/Treloar/Wingard/Billings
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 21, 2017, 07:56:34 PM
Before You Bet website for reference.

(http://i.imgur.com/FjeVmhj.png)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 21, 2017, 08:43:55 PM
News over here in Perth has just said Dusty wants to take next week off to travel to NZ and discuss his future with his Dad!  :o
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 21, 2017, 08:44:39 PM
News over here in Perth has just said Dusty wants to take next week off to travel to NZ and discuss his future with his Dad!  :o

 :o
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on August 21, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
News over here in Perth has just said Dusty wants to take next week off to travel to NZ and discuss his future with his Dad!  :o
He can't call his Dad, or FaceTime, or any sort of video conference?

Seriously, we live in the 21st century. Surely you've got to take advantage of that!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 22, 2017, 12:47:20 AM
He's not taking the week off lol. He's going over after the game for a couple of days as he does every time there's a bye
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 22, 2017, 10:33:15 AM
He's not taking the week off lol. He's going over after the game for a couple of days as he does every time there's a bye

Makes more sense, bloody media!

What are thoughts still on cashing out on Titchell now?  1 more week for Dusty to punch someone, current payout for a $10 bet is $140.  To win is $810.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on August 22, 2017, 11:18:26 AM
He's not taking the week off lol. He's going over after the game for a couple of days as he does every time there's a bye

Makes more sense, bloody media!

What are thoughts still on cashing out on Titchell now?  1 more week for Dusty to punch someone, current payout for a $10 bet is $140.  To win is $810.

Haha Yeah I've heard also that his manager is going with him to talk to his dad about where he plays next year but who knows if that's even true.

Highly unlikely Dusty would be that stupid but it's worth a sneaky 10er
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Hawka on August 22, 2017, 11:43:26 PM
He's not taking the week off lol. He's going over after the game for a couple of days as he does every time there's a bye

Makes more sense, bloody media!

What are thoughts still on cashing out on Titchell now?  1 more week for Dusty to punch someone, current payout for a $10 bet is $140.  To win is $810.
I can get a $1.2k return of $23 and the cashout atm is around 170
Ive noticed since Danger has got suspended, If tich plays and plays semi decent his odds go down, mostly until Dusty plays another blinder, im hoping Titch gets his normal 35 Disposals and if it gets to $200 then i may have to think
Little part of me that still thinks he can cause an upset , just needs to vote in Hawks losses
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 23, 2017, 11:34:19 AM
He's not taking the week off lol. He's going over after the game for a couple of days as he does every time there's a bye

Makes more sense, bloody media!

What are thoughts still on cashing out on Titchell now?  1 more week for Dusty to punch someone, current payout for a $10 bet is $140.  To win is $810.
I can get a $1.2k return of $23 and the cashout atm is around 170
Ive noticed since Danger has got suspended, If tich plays and plays semi decent his odds go down, mostly until Dusty plays another blinder, im hoping Titch gets his normal 35 Disposals and if it gets to $200 then i may have to think
Little part of me that still thinks he can cause an upset , just needs to vote in Hawks losses

As long as the barbies don't pull the cash out option as they usually do.  ::)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 23, 2017, 12:39:46 PM
still cant get over why Danger is favorite on sportsbet to be leading after rnd 5 instead of Sloane

when every prediction i seen has Sloane leading
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Pkbaldy on August 23, 2017, 01:21:04 PM
still cant get over why Danger is favorite on sportsbet to be leading after rnd 5 instead of Sloane

when every prediction i seen has Sloane leading

Put a grand on it.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 23, 2017, 01:48:03 PM
still cant get over why Danger is favorite on sportsbet to be leading after rnd 5 instead of Sloane

when every prediction i seen has Sloane leading

Put a grand on it.
I have Danger leading
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: dmac07 on August 24, 2017, 11:57:35 AM
still cant get over why Danger is favorite on sportsbet to be leading after rnd 5 instead of Sloane

when every prediction i seen has Sloane leading

Put a grand on it.
I have Danger leading

What do you have Danger on?! I have Sloane 6 votes ahead of him at round 5!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 24, 2017, 11:22:54 PM
Before you bet round 5 voting based on their system.

Sloane -, 3, 3, 1, 3 = 10
Danger 2.5, 1.5, 3, -, 1.5 = 7.5
Dusty 3, 1.5, 3, -, 1.5 = 9
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2017, 12:14:03 AM
but why they got danger fav then
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 25, 2017, 12:19:51 AM
and when was last time 3 players had 30+ votes
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 27, 2017, 06:30:30 PM
so Dustys dad cant go to brownlow night? kinda sucks
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 27, 2017, 07:00:15 PM
so Dustys dad cant go to brownlow night? kinda sucks

He made his choices in life!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 27, 2017, 08:58:48 PM
Round 23                  
Hawks vs Dogs   Roughead   3   McEvoy   2   Mitchell   1
Pies vs Dees   Elliot   3   Hoskin-Elliott   2   Sidebottom   1
Lions vs Roos   Higgins   3   Brown   2   Zorko   1
Swans vs Blues   Franklin   3   Parker   2   Kennedy   1
Cats vs Giants   Dangerfield   3   Menegola   2   Ward   1
Power vs Suns   S. Gray   3   Ebert   2   Wines   1
Bombers vs Dockers   Merrett   3   Heppell   2   Goddard   1
Tigers vs Saints   Martin   3   Grigg   2   Townsend   1
Eagles vs Crows   Shuey   3   Mitchell   2   M. Crouch   1
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 30, 2017, 11:11:59 AM
My final team vote predictions.  Disclaimer: If you follow me and put your life savings on this then don't send me death threats if a few don't pan out.  ;D  Personally I'll be looking across a few counts and basing it on that, not solely my count.

(http://i.imgur.com/9qhffeQ.png)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 30, 2017, 11:23:37 AM
SB have odds up for team multi's however max multi of 5 legs.

Sloane @ $1.18 is a lock
Somehow Zorko isn't favourite and is @ $2.05 I'd anchor a few multi's with this.

I like Billings and Jones @ $6 for their respective clubs as value plays, I'll be partnering each up with Zorko separately for value.

Will prob wait till I see a few more counts before I get confident on others.  I'm sure TAB will allow more than 5 legs.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2017, 01:50:30 PM
i will just be putting like $50 worth of bets on or so for team multis and if any hit should profit how i do it usually
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2017, 05:57:15 PM
anyone got Dusty on less then 36 votes?  new market on sb @1.77

and i see sb have finally changed the odds for leading after round 5 danger/sloane are even
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 07:23:45 PM
anyone got Dusty on less then 36 votes?  new market on sb @1.77

and i see sb have finally changed the odds for leading after round 5 danger/sloane are even
I have him on 43 hahaha jfc
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2017, 07:39:15 PM
jfc ?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 09:33:07 PM
jfc ?
Jerking five cocks
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 30, 2017, 09:34:02 PM
Here's my team votes list at the end of R23:

(https://i.gyazo.com/9f5f362e3d8c8d4b734f17e84add973f.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/e82c701d0eff91eeb4b2ce607eca3bfd.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/da44477b63f54babe33adf46097648b9.png)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 30, 2017, 09:43:56 PM
funny both u guys git Billings winning but afl don't
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Rusty00 on August 31, 2017, 10:06:19 AM
funny both u guys git Billings winning but afl don't
Nathan Jones as well
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 10:19:37 AM
funny both u guys git Billings winning but afl don't
Nathan Jones as well
I assume you mean because of Oliver. Oliver is similar to Macrae, heaps of good games, rarely stands out. If the Brownlow was top 5 each week then Oliver would have 20+ votes i reckon :p
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on August 31, 2017, 10:34:29 AM
funny both u guys git Billings winning but afl don't
Nathan Jones as well
I assume you mean because of Oliver. Oliver is similar to Macrae, heaps of good games, rarely stands out. If the Brownlow was top 5 each week then Oliver would have 20+ votes i reckon :p

Oliver > Macrae  ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 10:38:49 AM
funny both u guys git Billings winning but afl don't
Nathan Jones as well
I assume you mean because of Oliver. Oliver is similar to Macrae, heaps of good games, rarely stands out. If the Brownlow was top 5 each week then Oliver would have 20+ votes i reckon :p

Oliver > Macrae  ;)
Well yeah, what's your point :p
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on August 31, 2017, 11:37:13 AM
My final team vote predictions.  Disclaimer: If you follow me and put your life savings on this then don't send me death threats if a few don't pan out.  ;D  Personally I'll be looking across a few counts and basing it on that, not solely my count.

(http://i.imgur.com/9qhffeQ.png)

Here's my team votes list at the end of R23:

(https://i.gyazo.com/9f5f362e3d8c8d4b734f17e84add973f.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/e82c701d0eff91eeb4b2ce607eca3bfd.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/da44477b63f54babe33adf46097648b9.png)

Figured I'd do some comparisons between our votes!

Crows - Both have Sloaney on 26, and Matty Crouch on 16. You have Laird also 16, I have him just behind on 13. Probably lean to Crouch without Sloaney here, but Lairdy a chance

Lions - Perhaps my bias could have impacted my votes here, gave guys like Squizz and Hipwood votes in the Bombers and Suns games. Beams came home like a steamtrain and I had him poll 9 votes in the last 6 games. Zorko should take out most votes, but could be close.

Blues - Another one where we've differed a bit, but both have Murphy ahead. Will be interesting to see how this goes, not confident in either though.

Pies - You've given Adams a couple more, I've given Sidey a couple more. Rest is fairly even. I think Adams should get most votes though.

Bombers - Zerrett should get this, Heppell vs Daniher without Zerrett could be interesting

Freo - Pretty similar, Fyfe most votes here

Cats - Selwood should hang on without Danger here. Both have Danger just short of Dusty for most votes

Suns - Ablett easily, most votes without him will be close though

GWS - Looks like I've given a fair few extra to Kelly. Thought he finished the season really well myself, few BOGs there. Ward should get most votes without Kelly

Hawks - Tmitch easily, I haven't given him as many votes though. Gunston/Roughy/Burgoyne without Tmitch too close to call

Dees - Jones should get most votes, I dunno what his odds are but could be good money too. People may go for Oliver, but not enough standout games which is shown in both our votes

Norf - I think Higgins should get most votes here, but could go either way honestly. Some games I almost gave votes to Cunnington, but ended up placing him 4th or 5th best

Port - This is quite different, so I'd maybe stay away from Port! Gray, Wingard, Wines should be top 3, but who knows on the order. Port very rarely had a standout player in any of their wins, always having a number of guys performing well without being exceptional

Tigs - Dusty just pipping Danger on most votes, Cotchin most without Dusty comfortably

Saints - Billings over Ross, Steven in 3rd. Apparently Ross is the favourite, so Billings could be good money here!

Swans - Buddy and JPK will be close, Parker finished really well but won't catch up. Probably wouldn't touch the Swans here

Iggs - It'll be Shuey vs JJK I'd imagine, again probably one I'd stay away from. Gaff, Priddis, Yeo, SMitch could all possibly steal extra votes too

Dogs - Bont easily, Dahl or Macrae without him. Again not one I'd be confident on
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Gandalf123 on August 31, 2017, 02:37:46 PM
Jones at 6.50 on sb most team votes
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Commandorust on August 31, 2017, 02:41:59 PM
Hi all, read this forum most the year but first time posting. I've been running my own count a little differently. Basically across the games I gave out 6 votes per match but not in the typical 3, 2, 1 format. It may be there is clearly 2 best players on the ground, but can't separate them, so it could be 2.5, 2.5, 1. I also award a maximum and minimum, from my thoughts. There are examples where there may have been 4 or 5 sharing the votes so my calculations could have been 2, 1, 1, 1, 0.5, 0.5 with the minimum and maximum also being adjudicated.

Anyway at the end of it here is how my top 20 looks - I couldn't quite work out how to get my spreadsheet on here so have just gone with this. Have done total team votes also.


                                  Projected   Min   Max
Patrick Dangerfield             40   34   46
Dustin Martin                     39   34   43
Tom Mitchell                    30.5   25   35
Rory Sloane                    24.5   20   28
Josh Kelly                            23.5   17   31
Lance Franklin                   22.83   19   26
Zack Merrett                   21   15   28
Gary Ablett                            20   18   25
Marcus Bontempelli           19   15   26
Josh P Kennedy                18.08   12   26
Taylor Adams                17.33   11   25
Dayne Beams                   17   10   23
Ollie Wines                           16   10   20
Joel Selwood                15.83   12   19
Nathan Fyfe                  15.5   12   23
Marc Murphy                   15   10   22
Clayton Oliver                 14.5   5   26
Matt Crouch                 14.5   9   22
Robbie Gray                   14   11   16
Dayne Zorko                   14   10   19


A few differences in team votes to you guys.

I have Beams leading Brisbane vote.
Franklin leading Sydney
Clayton Oliver in front at Melbourne but as you have touched on before he could miss vote, note the minimum vote of 5 :/ Lots of times he may have got 0.5 or 1 vote as per my prediction but a max of 2 or 3
Ross just in front of Billings but again as above

The rest of the numbers are relatively similar.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 31, 2017, 05:27:37 PM
Where's AK been, he does a fairly comprehensive count...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on August 31, 2017, 05:35:42 PM
Where's AK been, he does a fairly comprehensive count...

Pretty sure he mentioned pages back that due to work and lack of time he stopped doing his count this year
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on August 31, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
Where's AK been, he does a fairly comprehensive count...

Pretty sure he mentioned pages back that due to work and lack of time he stopped doing his count this year

Ah bummer, he was a bit stricter than me about it so would've been good to see his finished numbers.  :(
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2017, 01:35:22 AM
Had a quick look on TAB at current odds

Absolutely zero value in both win and place markets

For me, Dusty, Titch and Kelly will be Top 3, and Sloane 4th

Quinella of Dusty/Titch at $2 and Dusty/Kelly at $4 is something I'm looking at

Dusty/Titch/Kelly trifecta at $2.50 and Dusty/Kelly/Titch at $4 I'm also getting on

Most Team Votes
Beams and Gibbs at $2.15 might be worth a bet
Ryder at $21 seems crazy, and at those odds I might throw a little bet on - he could pip Gray possibly although I'd expect Gray might just get him but at $21 it's worth a little dabble
Jack Steven at $5, Billings at $11
Umps love Sam Mitchell, and at $5 he's a chance


Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on September 03, 2017, 09:27:57 AM
Had a quick look on TAB at current odds

Absolutely zero value in both win and place markets

For me, Dusty, Titch and Kelly will be Top 3, and Sloane 4th

Quinella of Dusty/Titch at $2 and Dusty/Kelly at $4 is something I'm looking at

Dusty/Titch/Kelly trifecta at $2.50 and Dusty/Kelly/Titch at $4 I'm also getting on

Most Team Votes
Beams and Gibbs at $2.15 might be worth a bet
Ryder at $21 seems crazy, and at those odds I might throw a little bet on - he could pip Gray possibly although I'd expect Gray might just get him but at $21 it's worth a little dabble
Jack Steven at $5, Billings at $11
Umps love Sam Mitchell, and at $5 he's a chance

Correct me if im wrong mate but if Dusty/Kelly quinella is $4 and dusty/kelly/mitchell tri is at $4, why would u waste ur time putting money on the tri and having that 'extra variable' in t mitchell coming 3rd and loosing it to sloane or anyone else when u can just losd the quin of dusty/kelly AT THE SAME PRICE at $4? Does that make sense? It would be different if you thought it was dusty/kelly/sloane cause that tri is $17 and not the same value of $4 like the other tri/ and quin of dusty/kelly.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 03, 2017, 11:07:00 AM
Good pick mate, didn't even notice. It was 1:30am when I looked so that might explain it haha

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: PowerBug on September 03, 2017, 11:26:38 AM
Depends if you think Kelly will be 2nd or 3rd though
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 03, 2017, 11:29:18 AM
Depends if you think Kelly will be 2nd or 3rd though
Kelly 2nd, Sloaney 3rd, Tmitch 4th
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: WhatMate on September 03, 2017, 01:24:07 PM
You guys take any of the handicaps? Never done that before
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
You guys take any of the handicaps? Never done that before

I've done handicaps in the past with very good profits, not sure about this year though as Dusty could be well ahead of the pack...depends on what numbers some of the guys get handicapped.

Haven't noticed any groups yet?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 03, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
has sb paid out Dusty bets yet
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 03, 2017, 04:55:41 PM
Nice pick up here.

TAB has trifecta of Dusty/Titch/Sloane @ $5.50 and SB has boxed trifecta of the same 3 @ $5.75
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 03, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
i like murphy as far as handicaps go
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 03, 2017, 05:56:15 PM
i like murphy as far as handicaps go
What's the handicap? Gibbs, Docherty, Kreuzer could all steal votes
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 03, 2017, 06:32:18 PM
i like murphy as far as handicaps go
What's the handicap? Gibbs, Docherty, Kreuzer could all steal votes

22 @18.00
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 03, 2017, 06:36:44 PM
i like murphy as far as handicaps go
What's the handicap? Gibbs, Docherty, Kreuzer could all steal votes

22 @18.00
JV has him 21 behind, i have him 27 behind...cut the difference at 24 tells me it's bery risky. I was very harsh on Kreuz as well as rucks don't usually poll that well, but if he does then that'd put Murphy back a bit more as well i reckon.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 06, 2017, 03:18:08 PM
Loads of exotics up on Willy Hill.  Loving a few of the player over/unders, groups out too, but nothing of significant value except I like Murphy in the skippers group.  Tri without Dusty might hold some value, although couldn't find Sloane/Mitchell/Bont in the list so requested it as a buildabet.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 06, 2017, 03:30:49 PM
Loads of exotics up on Willy Hill.  Loving a few of the player over/unders, groups out too, but nothing of significant value except I like Murphy in the skippers group.
Beams, Fyfe, Murph in that order for me. You could put money on all 3 though and come out on top if you chuck slightly more on Beams (i think), and I can't see any of the other skips named out-polling those 3. Jelwood could get close but Ihink he has too much competition for votes at the Cats.

Geelong to poll most team votes could also be decent value.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 06, 2017, 03:35:24 PM
Loads of exotics up on Willy Hill.  Loving a few of the player over/unders, groups out too, but nothing of significant value except I like Murphy in the skippers group.
Beams, Fyfe, Murph in that order for me. You could put money on all 3 though and come out on top if you chuck slightly more on Beams (i think), and I can't see any of the other skips named out-polling those 3. Jelwood could get close but Ihink he has too much competition for votes at the Cats.

Geelong to poll most team votes could also be decent value.

Yep I saw that Geelong one too, will be a toss with the Crows already on it.  ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2017, 06:24:02 AM
btw does ab=nyone know what time it usually starts  and finishes might go out for dinner to a local pub and watch it this year
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 09, 2017, 08:31:43 AM
btw does ab=nyone know what time it usually starts  and finishes might go out for dinner to a local pub and watch it this year

The count usually kicks off at 8:30pm, or shortly after, and is usually done by around 11pm give or take
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2017, 08:33:09 AM
btw does ab=nyone know what time it usually starts  and finishes might go out for dinner to a local pub and watch it this year

The count usually kicks off at 8:30pm, or shortly after, and is usually done by around 11pm give or take

cool so local pub might be best idea places usually do things for Brownlow night i think
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on September 10, 2017, 11:07:51 PM
Lets discuss the 50/50 teams. who do we think we will win and how many votes u have them on (if uve done a count)?

beams/zorko
gibbs/murphy
adams/treloar/pendles
fyfe/neale
cunnington/brown/higgins
wines/gray
jpk/buddy
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2017, 12:59:17 AM
Lets discuss the 50/50 teams. who do we think we will win and how many votes u have them on (if uve done a count)?

beams/zorko
gibbs/murphy
adams/treloar/pendles
fyfe/neale
cunnington/brown/higgins
wines/gray
jpk/buddy

look on previous page
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: madskill55 on September 11, 2017, 10:30:50 AM
Lets discuss the 50/50 teams. who do we think we will win and how many votes u have them on (if uve done a count)?

beams/zorko
gibbs/murphy
adams/treloar/pendles
fyfe/neale
cunnington/brown/higgins
wines/gray
jpk/buddy

look on previous page

Ive read every single page and every single count of many members here; the point of my post is to create discussion about the brownlow as its only 2 weeks away. Everyone has their own beliefs and opinions, but if we discuss potential games with potential club leaders (eg..zorko & beams) we can actually deduce who may win. And thats where i stand mate. Nothing against you; just wanna create discussion.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 11, 2017, 02:21:08 PM
Lets discuss the 50/50 teams. who do we think we will win and how many votes u have them on (if uve done a count)?

beams/zorko
gibbs/murphy
adams/treloar/pendles
fyfe/neale
cunnington/brown/higgins
wines/gray
jpk/buddy
The only one I'd really be comfortable with there is Fyfe over Neale.

Have Zorko edging out Beams by 2 votes.
Murphy 1 vote ahead of Gibbs.
Adams 1 vote ahead of Treloar (Pendles a fair bit behind).
Fyfe easily over Neale.
Higgins a bit ahead of Brown/Cunnington, but Cunnington may poll better than I've predicted (had him as 4th/5th best player a number of times).
Have Wines over Gray but Port were a nightmare to judge, very rarely had standouts so was harder to award votes.
JPK 2 votes ahead of Buddy, but guys like Hanners and Parker may poll better than expected, which could mean less votes for JPK possibly.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 11, 2017, 04:16:06 PM
I always do my own count and will be collating it all soon.

Got a few different results to some on here, but for the most part I think im in a similar position.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 11, 2017, 05:50:01 PM
Lets discuss the 50/50 teams. who do we think we will win and how many votes u have them on (if uve done a count)?

beams/zorko
gibbs/murphy
adams/treloar/pendles
fyfe/neale
cunnington/brown/higgins
wines/gray
jpk/buddy
The only one I'd really be comfortable with there is Fyfe over Neale.

Have Zorko edging out Beams by 2 votes.
Murphy 1 vote ahead of Gibbs.
Adams 1 vote ahead of Treloar (Pendles a fair bit behind).
Fyfe easily over Neale.
Higgins a bit ahead of Brown/Cunnington, but Cunnington may poll better than I've predicted (had him as 4th/5th best player a number of times).
Have Wines over Gray but Port were a nightmare to judge, very rarely had standouts so was harder to award votes.
JPK 2 votes ahead of Buddy, but guys like Hanners and Parker may poll better than expected, which could mean less votes for JPK possibly.

Zorko 6 votes over Beams
Murphy 7 votes over Gibbs
Adams 4 votes head of Treloar and 9 votes ahead of Pendles
Fyfe 3 votes over Neale (confident on this as Dockers suck so hard, but Fyfe has a good history of polling)
Higgins 7, Cunnington/Brown 6 (not a chance in hell of touching this)
Gray 16, Wingard/Wines 14 (see North)
Buddy 4 votes ahead of JPK

Zorko, Murphy, Adams and Buddy will decide if I cash in big time this year.

You can add Melbourne in there too. Jones ahead by 4 votes over Viney for me.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 12, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
After round 5

R Sloane   11
P Dangerfield   10
D Martin   9
A Treloar   8
M Duncan   7
J Cameron   7
L Shuey   7
O Wines   6
R Gray   6
J Selwood   6
T Rockliff   6
T Greene   6
M Murphy   6
T Lynch   6
D Mundy   5
T Cotchin   5
T Mitchell   5
M Bontempelli   5
M Crouch   5
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: WhatMate on September 12, 2017, 11:10:51 PM
Bet365 have some brownlow h2h markets that are definitely worth looking into
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 13, 2017, 11:24:39 AM
Bet365 have some brownlow h2h markets that are definitely worth looking into

Yet to find anywhere that can multi these.  :(
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 13, 2017, 04:40:29 PM
After round 5

R Sloane   11
P Dangerfield   10
D Martin   9
A Treloar   8
M Duncan   7
J Cameron   7
L Shuey   7
O Wines   6
R Gray   6
J Selwood   6
T Rockliff   6
T Greene   6
M Murphy   6
T Lynch   6
D Mundy   5
T Cotchin   5
T Mitchell   5
M Bontempelli   5
M Crouch   5

After Round 10
D Martin   17
P Dangerfield   16
R Sloane   16
T Mitchell   12
A Treloar   11
Z Merrett   10
M Duncan   10
J Cameron   10
M Bontempelli   10
E Yeo   9
G Ablett   9
S Pendlebury   9
M Murphy   9
J Selwood   9
T Lynch   8
J Kelly   8
T Rockliff   8
M Crouch   7
T Cotchin   7
D Hannebery   7
B Brown   7
L Neale   7
JP Kennedy   7
L Shuey   7
R Gray   7
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 13, 2017, 05:37:57 PM
Anyone willing to post up their make or break bets, lol?  I'll try to do mine later in the week, if my tips are good I'll be laughing!

Also I have Sloane leading at round 5 and Dusty at round 10 like LS.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2017, 07:19:26 AM
my main bet is Sloane leading after rnd 5 got him at @3.75 too Danger was fav for ages by the bookies but now Sloane is

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 14, 2017, 08:38:23 AM
I'm really struggling to find any bets that interest me this year. Could be the first time in 10+ years that I don't put any bets on

2-1 doesn't interest me

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Modra6 on September 14, 2017, 08:52:09 AM
Lordsneeze have you concluded your own count as yet that you could share?
I've accumulated a fair few counts and have done a bit of data analysis. another set would be appreciated.

Ill then post a few bets which I've found a bit of value on between 4 bookies based on the analysis.
Found a nice handicap which should go close
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 14, 2017, 09:10:36 AM
Every year there's one player who's polling doesn't live up to the hype.  This year I'm calling Josh Kelly that player, won't be top 5.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 14, 2017, 09:30:34 AM
Lordsneeze have you concluded your own count as yet that you could share?
I've accumulated a fair few counts and have done a bit of data analysis. another set would be appreciated.

Ill then post a few bets which I've found a bit of value on between 4 bookies based on the analysis.
Found a nice handicap which should go close


do most have sloane leading after rnd 5
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Modra6 on September 14, 2017, 09:40:43 AM
do most have sloane leading after rnd 5
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More of a chance rd 10 (1-2 ahead). Rd 5 looks like it'll be decided by 1 vote
I'm going to bet on both and I figure ill get 1/2 minimum but should get a profit
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 14, 2017, 09:42:05 AM
Lordsneeze have you concluded your own count as yet that you could share?
I've accumulated a fair few counts and have done a bit of data analysis. another set would be appreciated.

Ill then post a few bets which I've found a bit of value on between 4 bookies based on the analysis.
Found a nice handicap which should go close

I do it in a notebook every year noting down directly after the match who are my top 3
It takes a bit of time after the season finishes to enter and collate normally do about 5 rounds a day once I start it, but I find it more accurate than doing it online where I could easily look at the stats and be swayed.

Im definitely seeing that my count is much closer than most others. normally you only see 8-10 players at 20 votes. I see about the same are likely to be the case, maybe slightly less as I expect some big tallys for Dusty & Danger. Then you have players like Gaff, Parker who historically poll reasonably well who just don't appear to feature often.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 14, 2017, 09:43:23 AM
do most have sloane leading after rnd 5

More of a chance rd 10 (1-2 ahead). Rd 5 looks like it'll be decided by 1 vote
I'm going to bet on both and I figure ill get 1/2 minimum but should get a profit
[/quote]

Sloane is a tough pick for me as the crows have been so dominate.
There are some games he was BOG comfortably, but outside those the points could go to any of 10 players.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Modra6 on September 14, 2017, 11:17:28 AM
Lordsneeze have you concluded your own count as yet that you could share?
I've accumulated a fair few counts and have done a bit of data analysis. another set would be appreciated.

Ill then post a few bets which I've found a bit of value on between 4 bookies based on the analysis.
Found a nice handicap which should go close

I do it in a notebook every year noting down directly after the match who are my top 3
It takes a bit of time after the season finishes to enter and collate normally do about 5 rounds a day once I start it, but I find it more accurate than doing it online where I could easily look at the stats and be swayed.

Im definitely seeing that my count is much closer than most others. normally you only see 8-10 players at 20 votes. I see about the same are likely to be the case, maybe slightly less as I expect some big tallys for Dusty & Danger. Then you have players like Gaff, Parker who historically poll reasonably well who just don't appear to feature often.

Yeah Gaff worries me a little. Doesn't seem like he will poll many but as you said is a historically good vote getter. That's why I also think Sloane will pick up a couple of the minor votes early on when he wasn't BOG but may have been in the mix.
The collating has taken me a fair few hours to do but at the end of the day it'll pay for itself. The more data the better!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 14, 2017, 01:06:10 PM
do most have sloane leading after rnd 5

More of a chance rd 10 (1-2 ahead). Rd 5 looks like it'll be decided by 1 vote
I'm going to bet on both and I figure ill get 1/2 minimum but should get a profit

Sloane is a tough pick for me as the crows have been so dominate.
There are some games he was BOG comfortably, but outside those the points could go to any of 10 players.
[/quote]

I'm definitely more convinced he'll be leading at round 5 than round 10.  I have him 1 vote behind Dusty at round 10, gives the other's more chances of passing him.  Dusty and Danger were just warming up in those early rounds whereas Sloane was on fire, was BOG for 3 games and I would expect him to poll 1-2 votes from the last 2 games because of this.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 14, 2017, 02:07:05 PM
Have done a bit of an interesting analysis based on last years vote data

Code: [Select]
Result Count   Average Votes
Bye 18.00 #DIV/0!
L 50+ 56.00 0.13
L 30-50 51.00 0.61
L 20-30 27.00 1.00
L 10-20 28.00 1.43
L 1-10 36.00 2.06
W 1-10 36.00 3.94
W 10-20 27.00 4.67
W 20-30 28.00 4.89
W 30-50 51.00 5.39
W 50+ 56.00 5.88

From what I can see it is possible for teams to get votes in losses, but it is very very rare.

In losses greater than 50 points teams on the losing side polled votes in 10.7% of matches. 5x 1 vote (Freo & Richmond 2x each) & 1x 2 votes (Pies)
In losses between 31 & 50 points teams in the losing side teams polled in 39.2% of matches. 12x 1 vote (North 3, Richmond & Saints 2 each), 5x 2 votes (Freo & Richmond 1 each again) & 3x 3 votes (Freo x2 & Brisbane x1).
In only 8.4% of matches did a side losing by more than 30 points get 3 votes out of the possible 6 and they never got more.

Shows a very clear correlation of result to number of teams votes. Thinking it might be worth adding in 2014 & 2015 data. Add in 2017 results to see how tight my votes by team vs results are.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on September 14, 2017, 04:54:01 PM
Alright guys I'm in a work comp and need to pick the top vote getter from each club (suspension doesn't matter)

So far I've got the obvious ones but help me out with the question marks. Have no idea on a few

Essendon - Zach Merrett (Locked)
Geelong - Danger (Locked)
Gold Coast - Ablett (Locked)
Giants - Kelly (Locked)
Hawks - Tom Mitchell (Locked)
Melbourne - Oliver (Locked)
Richmond - Dustin Martin (Locked)

Adelaide - Sloane or Matt Crouch?
Brisbane - Zorko or Beams?
Carlton - Murphy or Gibbs?
Collingwood - Adams, Pendles or Treloar?
Fremantle - Fyfe or Neale?
North Melbourne - ??
Port Adelaide - Ebert, Robbie Gray or Wines?
Saints - ??
Sydney - Kennedy, Parker or Buddy?
West Coast - ??
Bulldogs - Bontempelli or Macrae?







Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 14, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
Alright guys I'm in a work comp and need to pick the top vote getter from each club (suspension doesn't matter)

So far I've got the obvious ones but help me out with the question marks. Have no idea on a few

Essendon - Zach Merrett (Locked)
Geelong - Danger (Locked)
Gold Coast - Ablett (Locked)
Giants - Kelly (Locked)
Hawks - Tom Mitchell (Locked)
Melbourne - Oliver (Locked)
Richmond - Dustin Martin (Locked)

Adelaide - Sloane or Matt Crouch?
Brisbane - Zorko or Beams?
Carlton - Murphy or Gibbs?
Collingwood - Adams, Pendles or Treloar?
Fremantle - Fyfe or Neale?
North Melbourne - ??
Port Adelaide - Ebert, Robbie Gray or Wines?
Saints - ??
Sydney - Kennedy, Parker or Buddy?
West Coast - ??
Bulldogs - Bontempelli or Macrae?
Oliver is not a lock, in fact most counts have Jones beating him comfortably :P (I would definitely put my money on Jones)

Of your other choices, I'd be going with (locks in bold):
Sloaney (lock over MCrouch by a long way)
Zorko *just* over Beams
Murphy *just* over Gibbs
Adams *just* over Treloar
Fyfe
Higgins (but beware Cunnington and Brown)
Wines (but Port I have zero confidence in cause rarely any standouts)
Billings over Ross
JPK *just* over Buddy, but could go either way
Shuey (but a bit similar to Port, not a huge amount of standouts)
Bont (also a huge lock)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on September 14, 2017, 05:26:07 PM
Alright guys I'm in a work comp and need to pick the top vote getter from each club (suspension doesn't matter)

So far I've got the obvious ones but help me out with the question marks. Have no idea on a few

Essendon - Zach Merrett (Locked)
Geelong - Danger (Locked)
Gold Coast - Ablett (Locked)
Giants - Kelly (Locked)
Hawks - Tom Mitchell (Locked)
Melbourne - Oliver (Locked)
Richmond - Dustin Martin (Locked)

Adelaide - Sloane or Matt Crouch?
Brisbane - Zorko or Beams?
Carlton - Murphy or Gibbs?
Collingwood - Adams, Pendles or Treloar?
Fremantle - Fyfe or Neale?
North Melbourne - ??
Port Adelaide - Ebert, Robbie Gray or Wines?
Saints - ??
Sydney - Kennedy, Parker or Buddy?
West Coast - ??
Bulldogs - Bontempelli or Macrae?
Oliver is not a lock, in fact most counts have Jones beating him comfortably :P (I would definitely put my money on Jones)

Of your other choices, I'd be going with (locks in bold):
Sloaney (lock over MCrouch by a long way)
Zorko *just* over Beams
Murphy *just* over Gibbs
Adams *just* over Treloar
Fyfe
Higgins (but beware Cunnington and Brown)
Wines (but Port I have zero confidence in cause rarely any standouts)
Billings over Ross
JPK *just* over Buddy, but could go either way
Shuey (but a bit similar to Port, not a huge amount of standouts)
Bont (also a huge lock)

Thanks mate, appreciate it!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 14, 2017, 08:36:10 PM
Alright guys I'm in a work comp and need to pick the top vote getter from each club (suspension doesn't matter)

So far I've got the obvious ones but help me out with the question marks. Have no idea on a few

Essendon - Zach Merrett (Locked)
Geelong - Danger (Locked)
Gold Coast - Ablett (Locked)
Giants - Kelly (Locked)
Hawks - Tom Mitchell (Locked)
Melbourne - Oliver (Locked)Jones
Richmond - Dustin Martin (Locked)

Adelaide - Sloane by a fair margin or Matt Crouch?
Brisbane - Zorko or Beams?
Carlton - Murphy or Gibbs?
Collingwood - Adams, Pendles or Treloar?
Fremantle - Fyfe or Neale?
North Melbourne - ?? Coin toss between Cunnington and Higgins
Port Adelaide - Ebert, Robbie Gray or Wines?
Saints - ?? Billings
Sydney - Kennedy, Parker or Buddy?
West Coast - ?? Kennedy
Bulldogs - Bontempelli by a mile or Macrae?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on September 14, 2017, 08:52:34 PM
Thanks mate

So thereal toss ups are between
Wines/Gray
JPK/Buddy
Shuey/Kennedy
Higgins/Cunnington

$250 up for grabs here so hopefully pick the right ones!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 14, 2017, 10:57:29 PM
$50 free bet...struggling to see anything with better value than Nathan Jones to lead Melbourne votes @ $8???
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2017, 03:42:45 AM
$50 free bet...struggling to see anything with better value than Nathan Jones to lead Melbourne votes @ $8???

jones/billings multi or no balls
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 15, 2017, 07:42:48 AM
Reckon Billings could be fools gold

Besides one or two games, he never stood out as BOG or dominated for mine

Steven and Ross the best Saints I'd say
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 09:01:54 AM
$50 free bet...struggling to see anything with better value than Nathan Jones to lead Melbourne votes @ $8???

jones/billings multi or no balls

Balls intact...bonus bet if for single bet sue only.  ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 15, 2017, 09:37:52 AM
Just been looking at Oliver and im starting to feel that he is going to get a lot more votes than people think including myself.

Personally I don't feel he was a standout in a lot of matches, but last year he polled in round 1 & round 9. In both those games he only had 22 & 21 possessions respectively and was not a standout. This year he was probably 4th to 5th best in a lot of matches, got a lot of contested possessions and was in and around the umpires a lot.

I feel that he is the player that will sneak in to get the 2 or 1 in a lot of the matches where he may not have been in the top 3. Could be wrong, but I think that the Melbourne votes are really really questionable this year.   
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 09:49:46 AM
Just been looking at Oliver and im starting to feel that he is going to get a lot more votes than people think including myself.

Personally I don't feel he was a standout in a lot of matches, but last year he polled in round 1 & round 9. In both those games he only had 22 & 21 possessions respectively and was not a standout. This year he was probably 4th to 5th best in a lot of matches, got a lot of contested possessions and was in and around the umpires a lot.

I feel that he is the player that will sneak in to get the 2 or 1 in a lot of the matches where he may not have been in the top 3. Could be wrong, but I think that the Melbourne votes are really really questionable this year.

Yeah bookies have me a little scared with this one too, we all could be completely off with Oliver.  I have left Jones out in my major multi's, but have used him and Billings separately to boost a few other odds.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 15, 2017, 10:00:36 AM
Just been looking at Oliver and im starting to feel that he is going to get a lot more votes than people think including myself.

Personally I don't feel he was a standout in a lot of matches, but last year he polled in round 1 & round 9. In both those games he only had 22 & 21 possessions respectively and was not a standout. This year he was probably 4th to 5th best in a lot of matches, got a lot of contested possessions and was in and around the umpires a lot.

I feel that he is the player that will sneak in to get the 2 or 1 in a lot of the matches where he may not have been in the top 3. Could be wrong, but I think that the Melbourne votes are really really questionable this year.

Yeah bookies have me a little scared with this one too, we all could be completely off with Oliver.  I have left Jones out in my major multi's, but have used him and Billings separately to boost a few other odds.

I only had him polling in 2 games in the first 14, the Brownlow predictor has him in 7 or 8 (cant remember which). It has me very worried that im way off on him and just feel that he is going to be challenging Jones for the most votes. Definetly see Jones as good value, but cannot feel confident. 
The fact the coaches had him ranked 2nd in the coaches award behind Sloane after round 6 has me concerned I only have him on 2 votes at that point.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 01:42:36 PM
Just noticed Geelong for most team votes is at $9! This might be what I put my free bet on...
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2017, 02:29:47 PM
Just noticed Geelong for most team votes is at $9! This might be what I put my free bet on...

have u seen Billings in the lefties group on sb
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 02:51:29 PM
Just noticed Geelong for most team votes is at $9! This might be what I put my free bet on...

have u seen Billings in the lefties group on sb

Yeah, too close to call.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 15, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
Just noticed Geelong for most team votes is at $9! This might be what I put my free bet on...

After 15 rounds I have it showing as

Geelong
GWS
Crows
Port (6 Votes separating top 4)
Melbourne
GAP
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 03:48:23 PM
Don't judge me, but here are my Brownlow bets...a few are bonus bets, but not many...if any. ;D

SB
Pick 4 - Dusty/Titch/Sloane/Bont @ $41
Boxed tri - Dusty/Titch/Sloane @ $5.50
BL teams - Heppel(W/O Merrett)/Sloane/Billings/Jones/Zorko @ $217
BL teams - Jones/Zorko @ $12.30
BL teams - Billings/Zorko @ $12.30
BL teams - Fyfe/Adams/Murphy/Ward(W/O Kelly)/Zorko @ $14.70

WH
Tigers prem/Dusty BL/Dusty Norm @ $81
Dusty BL/Crows prem/Sloane leads at rd 5 @ $11
Skippers - Murphy @ $9
Most team votes - Geelong @ $7
Bont over 22 votes @ $7
Sloane over 23 votes @ $3.25
Titch over 27 @ $3.25
Titch over 29 @ $7
JPK/Ablett most combined votes in group @ $12

Crown
Team votes - Sloane/Zorko/Murphy/Adams/Fyfe/Billings/Buddy/JKK @ $282
Team votes - Sloane/Beams/Murphy/Adams/Fyfe @ $10.88
Group - Shuey @ $8.50
Group - Murphy @ $5.50

Lads
Buddy Coleman & Dusty BL @ $10.50

TAB
Team - Sloane/Murphy/Adams/Fyfe/Ward(W/O Kelly) @ $9.95
Team - Billings/Adams/Murphy/Jones/Zorko @ $800
Team - Billings/Adams/Murphy/Jones/Zorko @ $494
Team - Sloane/Zorko/Murphy/Adams/Zerrett/Kelly/Jones/Billings @ $700
Team - JKK/Buddy/Billings/Jones/Kelly/Merrett/Murphy/Zorko/Sloane @ $1200
Team - Zorko/Merrett/Kelly/Buddy/JKK/Sloane @ $15
Team - Zorko/Murphy/Adams/Merrett/Kelly/Buddy/Jones/JKK @$889

Bet365
Group - Kreuzer @ $6
Group - Laird @ $6.50
Group - Gray @ $9

Madbookie
Team most votes - Geelong @ $9
Dusty leader at rd 5 @ $4.50
H2H - Ward over Neale/Wingard over Dixon/Murphy over Gray/Titchell over Kelly/Dahl over B.Crouch/Macrae over Sidey/Jones over Viney @$56

Ubet
Group - Murphy @ $17
Box tri - Dusty/Titch/Sloane @ $6
Trios - Murphy @ $3.20 (Pendles/Oliver)
Trios - Sloane @ $2.60 (Merrett/Buddy)
Trios - Wingard @ $3.40 (S.Mitchell/B.Brown)
Trios - Ward @$3.25 (Gray/Gaff)
Trios - Shuey @ $3.60 (Macrae/Daniher)
Trios - Rocky @ $3 (Tex/Patton)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2017, 04:15:42 PM
Madbookie let u multi h2h ?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 04:21:04 PM
Madbookie let u multi h2h ?

Yep!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 04:22:21 PM
The biggest issue could be tied votes...they have flowered me in the past.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on September 15, 2017, 04:25:03 PM
Flower you must be confident on Billings?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 15, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
Madbookie let u multi h2h ?

Yep!

Madbookie any good? Their sign up bonus seems juicy atm haha
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 04:36:28 PM
Madbookie let u multi h2h ?

Yep!

Madbookie any good? Their sign up bonus seems juicy atm haha

They're a bit behind on sports markets but getting better, and yeah I joined up for the bonus, then when I turned my bonus over I cashed most of it out...ever fortnight or so if you're inactive they send you a deposit promo.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 04:37:21 PM
Flower you must be confident on Billings?

Got enough without Billings to still reap a profit.  ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 15, 2017, 04:38:00 PM
Madbookie let u multi h2h ?

Yep!

Madbookie any good? Their sign up bonus seems juicy atm haha

They're a bit behind on sports markets but getting better, and yeah I joined up for the bonus, then when I turned my bonus over I cashed most of it out...ever fortnight or so if you're inactive they send you a deposit promo.

Perfect second choice bookie by the sounds haha, cheers mate
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2017, 04:47:25 PM
@ele luxbet got a good deposit offer to deposit $50 and get a $150 bonus bet
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 04:53:52 PM
Most bookies have decent deposit offers, Ubet is really good too. Betstar is another one, just depends what state you are in to whether those bonuses apply.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Rusty00 on September 15, 2017, 05:06:31 PM
Most bookies have decent deposit offers, Ubet is really good too. Betstar is another one, just depends what state you are in to whether those bonuses apply.
:'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 15, 2017, 05:10:21 PM
Most bookies have decent deposit offers, Ubet is really good too. Betstar is another one, just depends what state you are in to whether those bonuses apply.
:'( :'( :'( :'(

I'm in WA and managed to get some recent bonuses based on specific links I've been sent, but yeah its getting harder for SA/WA/NSW to get promo's.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 16, 2017, 12:54:25 AM
fun fact lots of bookies will still give u a bonus if u go on chat and ask nicely act like u didnt know etc
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 11:07:02 AM
After round 5

R Sloane   11
P Dangerfield   10
D Martin   9
A Treloar   8
M Duncan   7
J Cameron   7
L Shuey   7
O Wines   6
R Gray   6
J Selwood   6
T Rockliff   6
T Greene   6
M Murphy   6
T Lynch   6
D Mundy   5
T Cotchin   5
T Mitchell   5
M Bontempelli   5
M Crouch   5

After Round 10
D Martin   17
P Dangerfield   16
R Sloane   16
T Mitchell   12
A Treloar   11
Z Merrett   10
M Duncan   10
J Cameron   10
M Bontempelli   10
E Yeo   9
G Ablett   9
S Pendlebury   9
M Murphy   9
J Selwood   9
T Lynch   8
J Kelly   8
T Rockliff   8
M Crouch   7
T Cotchin   7
D Hannebery   7
B Brown   7
L Neale   7
JP Kennedy   7
L Shuey   7
R Gray   7

Afer Round 15
P Dangerfield   25
D Martin   23
G Ablett   18
T Mitchell   17
R Sloane   16
A Treloar   14
M Bontempelli   13
Z Merrett   13
M Duncan   12
T Cotchin   11
J Cameron   11
J Kelly   11
J Selwood   11
S Pendlebury   11
JP Kennedy   10
T Lynch   10
S Ross   10
R Gray   10
O Wines   10
M Walters   9
T Mcdonald   9
B Gibbs   9
E Yeo   9
L Parker   9
R Laird   9
D Zorko   9
N Jones   9
M Murphy   9
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2017, 11:18:22 AM
After round 5

R Sloane   11
P Dangerfield   10
D Martin   9
A Treloar   8
M Duncan   7
J Cameron   7
L Shuey   7
O Wines   6
R Gray   6
J Selwood   6
T Rockliff   6
T Greene   6
M Murphy   6
T Lynch   6
D Mundy   5
T Cotchin   5
T Mitchell   5
M Bontempelli   5
M Crouch   5

After Round 10
D Martin   17
P Dangerfield   16
R Sloane   16
T Mitchell   12
A Treloar   11
Z Merrett   10
M Duncan   10
J Cameron   10
M Bontempelli   10
E Yeo   9
G Ablett   9
S Pendlebury   9
M Murphy   9
J Selwood   9
T Lynch   8
J Kelly   8
T Rockliff   8
M Crouch   7
T Cotchin   7
D Hannebery   7
B Brown   7
L Neale   7
JP Kennedy   7
L Shuey   7
R Gray   7

Afer Round 15
P Dangerfield   25
D Martin   23
G Ablett   18
T Mitchell   17
R Sloane   16
A Treloar   14
M Bontempelli   13
Z Merrett   13
M Duncan   12
T Cotchin   11
J Cameron   11
J Kelly   11
J Selwood   11
S Pendlebury   11
JP Kennedy   10
T Lynch   10
S Ross   10
R Gray   10
O Wines   10
M Walters   9
T Mcdonald   9
B Gibbs   9
E Yeo   9
L Parker   9
R Laird   9
D Zorko   9
N Jones   9
M Murphy   9

Way to keep us in suspense...  ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 11:33:37 AM
After round 5

R Sloane   11
P Dangerfield   10
D Martin   9
A Treloar   8
M Duncan   7
J Cameron   7
L Shuey   7
O Wines   6
R Gray   6
J Selwood   6
T Rockliff   6
T Greene   6
M Murphy   6
T Lynch   6
D Mundy   5
T Cotchin   5
T Mitchell   5
M Bontempelli   5
M Crouch   5

After Round 10
D Martin   17
P Dangerfield   16
R Sloane   16
T Mitchell   12
A Treloar   11
Z Merrett   10
M Duncan   10
J Cameron   10
M Bontempelli   10
E Yeo   9
G Ablett   9
S Pendlebury   9
M Murphy   9
J Selwood   9
T Lynch   8
J Kelly   8
T Rockliff   8
M Crouch   7
T Cotchin   7
D Hannebery   7
B Brown   7
L Neale   7
JP Kennedy   7
L Shuey   7
R Gray   7

Afer Round 15
P Dangerfield   25
D Martin   23
G Ablett   18
T Mitchell   17
R Sloane   16
A Treloar   14
M Bontempelli   13
Z Merrett   13
M Duncan   12
T Cotchin   11
J Cameron   11
J Kelly   11
J Selwood   11
S Pendlebury   11
JP Kennedy   10
T Lynch   10
S Ross   10
R Gray   10
O Wines   10
M Walters   9
T Mcdonald   9
B Gibbs   9
E Yeo   9
L Parker   9
R Laird   9
D Zorko   9
N Jones   9
M Murphy   9

Way to keep us in suspense...  ;)
Might have it done today as got the day off, up to 19 now. Tempted to post after each of the last 3 rounds to build the suspense
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 12:12:46 PM
After round 5

R Sloane   11
P Dangerfield   10
D Martin   9
A Treloar   8
M Duncan   7
J Cameron   7
L Shuey   7
O Wines   6
R Gray   6
J Selwood   6
T Rockliff   6
T Greene   6
M Murphy   6
T Lynch   6
D Mundy   5
T Cotchin   5
T Mitchell   5
M Bontempelli   5
M Crouch   5

After Round 10
D Martin   17
P Dangerfield   16
R Sloane   16
T Mitchell   12
A Treloar   11
Z Merrett   10
M Duncan   10
J Cameron   10
M Bontempelli   10
E Yeo   9
G Ablett   9
S Pendlebury   9
M Murphy   9
J Selwood   9
T Lynch   8
J Kelly   8
T Rockliff   8
M Crouch   7
T Cotchin   7
D Hannebery   7
B Brown   7
L Neale   7
JP Kennedy   7
L Shuey   7
R Gray   7

Afer Round 15
P Dangerfield   25
D Martin   23
G Ablett   18
T Mitchell   17
R Sloane   16
A Treloar   14
M Bontempelli   13
Z Merrett   13
M Duncan   12
T Cotchin   11
J Cameron   11
J Kelly   11
J Selwood   11
S Pendlebury   11
JP Kennedy   10
T Lynch   10
S Ross   10
R Gray   10
O Wines   10
M Walters   9
T Mcdonald   9
B Gibbs   9
E Yeo   9
L Parker   9
R Laird   9
D Zorko   9
N Jones   9
M Murphy   9

After Round 20
D Martin   31
P Dangerfield   29
T Mitchell   26
G Ablett   20
R Sloane   19
M Duncan   18
M Bontempelli   17
A Treloar   16
Z Merrett   15
M Crouch   15
D Zorko   14
C Ward   14
J Kelly   14
S Ross   13
T Cotchin   13
J Selwood   13
L Parker   13
L Neale   13
B Gibbs   13
O Wines   13
B Brown   12
JP Kennedy   12
A Gaff   12
T Adams   12
N Fyfe   12

Gonna have a break now.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
Wowsers, you have Mitch Duncan high!  He had a great season, but it was always a toss up with votes for him or Jelwood and I gave them to Jelwood based on name/histoy.  Treloar and Gaff higher than I have seen in any tally's too.  Ben Brown another that's way too high IMO.  Kelly lower than expected which I agree with, lots of people loading up on Kelly for what reason I have no idea.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 12:53:02 PM
Wowsers, you have Mitch Duncan high!  He had a great season, but it was always a toss up with votes for him or Jelwood and I gave them to Jelwood based on name/histoy.  Treloar and Gaff higher than I have seen in any tally's too.  Ben Brown another that's way too high IMO.  Kelly lower than expected which I agree with, lots of people loading up on Kelly for what reason I have no idea.

Both with 2 BOG
I only have them both getting votes in rounds 1 (2 vs 1) - 5 (2 vs 3) & 16 (3 vs 1).
Duncan I have with 2 BOG, 5x 2 votes & 2x 1 vote
Selwood I have with 2 BOG 1x 2 votes & 5x 1 vote

So for me it wasn't that it was a toss up between the 2. given only 3 matches both voted in and I only had Duncan with 2x 1 vote. I think Duncan might be a little like Gaff, very underestimated this year.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: MC on September 19, 2017, 01:14:37 PM
Port are a team that interest me, I think Gray and Ryder will poll well, especially if you consider their percentage, which alludes to plenty of comfortable wins and thus plenty of 2s and 3s.
Who snags the votes from WCE this year, given Priddis and Gaff tore it up last year with 20-odd each. They were a top-8 side and should poll.

Very interesting LS, love your work mate!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 01:16:57 PM
Kelly lower than expected which I agree with, lots of people loading up on Kelly for what reason I have no idea.

The reason is because he was by far the best Giant

The only worry is whether or not the umps noticed him, because historically they take a year later before noticing young guns

A lot of predictors have him coming 2nd behind Dusty (Excluding Danger of course) so he clearly dominated enough games, it will just come down to whether or not the umps noticed him

I'll probably chuck a bet on the Dusty Kelly Quinella just in case :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 01:18:25 PM
Port are a team that interest me, I think Gray and Ryder will poll well, especially if you consider their percentage, which alludes to plenty of comfortable wins and thus plenty of 2s and 3s.
Who snags the votes from WCE this year, given Priddis and Gaff tore it up last year with 20-odd each. They were a top-8 side and should poll.

Very interesting LS, love your work mate!

I mentioned Ryder here a few weeks ago because I saw he was $21 for most Port votes which seemed super juicy

He is now into $15

Reckon Gray might just pip him, and at $2.10 I'll throw that into a multi

Might even chuck a small bet on Ryder just in case :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 01:21:56 PM
Port are a team that interest me, I think Gray and Ryder will poll well, especially if you consider their percentage, which alludes to plenty of comfortable wins and thus plenty of 2s and 3s.
Who snags the votes from WCE this year, given Priddis and Gaff tore it up last year with 20-odd each. They were a top-8 side and should poll.

Very interesting LS, love your work mate!

I mentioned Ryder here a few weeks ago because I saw he was $21 for most Port votes which seemed super juicy

He is now into $15

Reckon Gray might just pip him, and at $2.10 I'll throw that into a multi

Might even chuck a small bet on Ryder just in case :)

Its interesting. My R20 Tally is

O Wines   13 (3 BOG)
R Gray   11 (3 BOG)
P Ryder   10 (2 BOG)
C Dixon   8 (2 BOG)
B Ebert   5
T Boak   5

13 players polling in total.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2017, 01:29:57 PM
It'd be awesome if everyone's counts could be collated into the OP!

I'll have a skim through some markets now and see if there's anything that takes my fancy! Historically not a great brownlow punter but we'll see what we come up with 8)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 01:33:18 PM
After 21

P Dangerfield   32
D Martin   31
T Mitchell   27
G Ablett   20
R Sloane   19
M Duncan   18
M Bontempelli   17
J Kelly   17
M Crouch   17
A Treloar   16
O Wines   15
L Parker   15
Z Merrett   15
C Ward   14
D Zorko   14
L Franklin   13
S Ross   13
JJ Kennedy   13
T Adams   13
L Neale   13
T Cotchin   13
B Gibbs   13
J Selwood   13
D Beams   13
M Murphy   13
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 01:43:41 PM
D Martin   34
P Dangerfield   34
T Mitchell   29
R Sloane   21
J Kelly   20
G Ablett   20
M Duncan   18
M Bontempelli   17
M Crouch   17
A Treloar   16
O Wines   15
D Beams   15
Z Merrett   15
L Parker   15
JP Kennedy 15
J Steven   14
M Murphy   14
T Adams   14
D Zorko   14
C Ward   14

One more round to go.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 02:00:15 PM
Final Count

D Martin   37
P Dangerfield   36
T Mitchell   29
R Sloane   21
J Kelly   20
G Ablett   20
M Crouch   20
Z Merrett   18
M Duncan   18
M Bontempelli   17
JP Kennedy   17
A Treloar   16
O Wines   16
L Franklin   16
L Parker   16
C Ward   15
B Brown   15
D Beams   15
D Zorko   15
A Gaff   14
J Steven   14
M Murphy   14
T Adams   14
N Fyfe   14
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 02:07:28 PM
By Team

Adelaide
R Sloane   21
M Crouch   20
R Laird   11
T Lynch   9
S Jacobs   8
R Atkins   6
B Crouch   5
J Jenkins   4
T Walker   4
R Douglas   2
C Cameron   1
B Smith   1
E Betts   1
J Lever   1

Brisbane
D Zorko   15
D Beams   15
T Rockliff   10
T Cutler   1
L Taylor   1
H Andrews   1

Carlton
M Murphy   14
B Gibbs   13
S Docherty   10
P Cripps   4
K Simpson   4
M Kreuzer   3
E Curnow   2

Collingwood
A Treloar   16
T Adams   14
S Pendlebury   11
S Sidebottom   10
B Grundy   4
W Hoskin Elliott   3
J Elliott   2
D Wells   1
J Howe   1
T Phillips   1
J Thomas   1
J De Goey   1
J Smith   1

Essendon
Z Merrett   18
D Heppell   11
D Zaharakis   11
J Daniher   8
B Goddard   7
M Hurley   3
C Hooker   3
J Watson   2
D Parish   1
O Fantasia   1
A Mcdonald Tip   1

Freo
N Fyfe   14
L Neale   13
M Walters   9
D Mundy   5
B Hill   5
L Ryan   2
C Blakely   1

Geelong
P Dangerfield   36
M Duncan   18
J Selwood   13
S Menegola   7
T Hawkins   5
Z Touhy   4
J Murdoch   2
S Motlop   2
S Selwood   1
Z Tuohy   1
H Taylor   1

Gold Coast
G Ablett   20
A Hall   8
J Lyons   5
T Lynch   4
B Matera   4
J Martin   2
P Hanley   1
J Harbrow   1

GWS
J Kelly   20
C Ward   15
J Cameron   11
T Greene   8
L Whitfield   8
D Shiel   5
S Mumford   4
Z Williams   4
J Patton   3
H Shaw   3
S Cogniglio   2
T Scully   2
S Coniglio   1

Hawks
T Mitchell   29
B Mcevoy   7
J Gunston   7
J Roughead   6
S Burgoyne   5
I Smith   3
R Henderson   3
L Hodge   2
J Sicily   1
B Hartung   1

Melbourne
N Jones   12
C Oliver   10
T Mcdonald   9
M Hibberd   6
D Tyson   5
J Lewis   5
J Viney   4
G Gartlett   3
J Hogan   3
C Pedersen   3
J Hunt   2
C Salem   2
C Petracca   2
B Vince   1
M Gawn   1

North Melbourne
B Brown   15
B Cunnington   7
S Higgins   7
J Waite   3
T Goldstein   3
A Mullett   2
B Preuss   1
L Mcdonald   1

Port
O Wines   16
P Ryder   13
R Gray   11
C Dixon   9
B Ebert   7
C Wingard   6
T Boak   5
S Powell Pepper   4
S Gray   3
H Hartlett   3
J Westhoff   2
K Amon   2
J Polec   2
Broadbent   2

Richmond
D Martin   37
T Cotchin   13
S Grigg   7
B Houli   4
D Prestia   4
J Caddy   3
T Nankervis   3
J Riewoldt   3
K Lambert   2
A Rance   1

Saints
J Steven   14
S Ross   13
N Riewoldt   8
J Billings   5
L Dunstan   4
B Acres   4
D Roberton   3
J Sinclair   2
J Steele   2
L Montagna   2
J Newnes   1

Swans
JP Kennedy   17
L Franklin   16
L Parker   16
D Hannebery   8
J Lloyd   5
S Reid   3
T Papley   3
G Rohan   3
C Sinclair   3
I Heeney   2
G Hewett   2
N Newman   2
K Tippett   1

West Coast
A Gaff   14
JJ Kennedy   13
E Yeo   9
S Mitchell   9
L Shuey   8
M Priddis   4
S Hurn   3
D Petrie   3
D Sheed   2
J Mcgovern   1
T Barrass   1
L Jetta   1
M LeCras   1

Western Bulldogs
M Bontempelli   17
J Macrae   12
L Dahlhaus   6
L Hunter   6
L Picken   3
J Stringer   3
J Johannisen   2
M Boyd   2
M Wallis   1
L Jong   1
J Johanisson   1
E Wood   1
S Biggs   1
C Daniel   1
C Smith   1

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 02:11:21 PM
I only ever bet on the Brownlow, so I just walk into the local TAB and put my bets in the self serve machine

Can anyone tell me, can I do multi's in those machines? And if so, how?

I want to put on a 5 or 6 leg multi for most team votes
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2017, 02:29:38 PM
Remember that guy Todd Goldstein who they said would win the Brownlow a few years ago, yeah nah, ruckmen don't poll.  Wouldn't consider Ryder at all.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 02:30:50 PM
Total Team Votes

First number is my total, second number is the expected based on last years win margin trend, its only off 1 years data, so I don't expect it to be exact, but give a solid trend.
.
So I have Brisbane, Carlton & Geelong higher than expected & Richmond & WB lower than expected. Richmond doesn't surprise me as they got quite a few votes in big losses last year. While Carlton & Brisbane had standout players this year in losses.

Based on this metric the Crows SHOULD be the highest voting team.

Adelaide   94   92
Brisbane   43   33
Carlton   50   43
Collingwood   66   61
Essendon   66   72
Fremantle   49   47
Geelong   90   83
Gold Coast   45   40
Greater Western Sydney   86   81
Hawthorn   64   61
Melbourne   68   72
North Melbourne   39   48
Port Adelaide   85   84
Richmond   77   86
StKilda   58   63
Sydney   81   84
WCE   69   71
Western Bulldogs   58   66
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 02:32:34 PM
I only ever bet on the Brownlow, so I just walk into the local TAB and put my bets in the self serve machine

Can anyone tell me, can I do multi's in those machines? And if so, how?

I want to put on a 5 or 6 leg multi for most team votes

Been a long time since I did a TAB bet, but most the time you just need to follow the prompts on the card.
You should be able to multi them if they have the option.

Remember that guy Todd Goldstein who they said would win the Brownlow a few years ago, yeah nah, ruckmen don't poll.  Wouldn't consider Ryder at all.

Ryder is a bit of a different kettle to a pure ruckman, given he is a strong forward and ball winning ruck.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2017, 03:25:15 PM
From brief look...

Max Gawn to poll a vote @ 2.25
Geelong most team votes @ 9.00 (dont think it happens but it seems overs)
Sloane top 5 finish @ 2.40
Sloane top 10 finish @ 1.25 (using it as a multi builder)
Callan Ward top 20 finish @ 3.50
Mitch Duncan top 20 finish @ 11.00
Nat Fyfe top 20 finish @ 2.00
Dusty/Mitchell exacta @ 2.05
Dusty/Mitchell/Kelly trifecta @ 4.50
Dusty/Mitchell/Kelly/Sloane boxed pick 4 @ 3.75
R.Sloane leader after round 5 @ 2.50 (could put the same amount on Danger and take the slight profit if you're certain it'll be one of them)

Now some H2Hs (obv these would be multi'd)

Mitchell to beat Kelly @ 1.55
R.Gray to beat M.Murphy @ 1.55
C.Wingard to beat C.Dixon @ 1.55
N.Jones to beat J.Viney @ 1.87

Brownlow Medal Vote record to be broken (ie 36 votes or more) - YES @ 1.60

JPK to win Captains Group (Jelwood, Beams, Murphy, Cotch, C.Ward, Fyfe, Pendles, Heppell, Viney) @ 1.80
Priddis to win Retirees Group (Montagna, Watson, Hodge, Kelly, Boyd, Petrie) @ 3.00
Heeney to win Young Guns Group (Sicily, Orazio, P.Cripps, DeGoey, Tracca, Burton, Sheed, Steele, Daniel, Lever)

Now the Teams

Zorko @ 2.00
Fyfe @ 1.42
Ward @ 1.75 (without Kelly)
Higgins @ 2.90 (?)
R.Gray @ 2.10
JPK @ 1.90
Yeo @ 8.00 (??)

Few smokies thrown around there! Will prob only get on 20% of these buy hey, whats the harm in having a look!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2017, 03:49:13 PM
i got sloane after rnd 5 @3.75  ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2017, 03:59:14 PM
also LordSneeze ur votes for Billings are much lower than others i seen interesting
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
i got sloane after rnd 5 @3.75  ;D

Not super confident on it, Danger could rack for being Danger.

Tbh if I were you, I'd be loading up on Danger at 2.75. Worst case scenario you likely win by 75% of whatever you stake on Danger.

But I'm less confident on Sloane than you probably are haha
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2017, 04:11:43 PM
Sloane is guaranteed 11 votes minimum imo after rnd 5 possibly 12

Danger will have 9 b4 rnd 5 this game decides it

a matter of if Duncan gets the 2 or Danger



(https://imgur.com/bcpyOUT.jpg)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 04:16:28 PM
also LordSneeze ur votes for Billings are much lower than others i seen interesting

I'm tipping he won't even get 10 votes

Where has all this love for Billings come from?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2017, 04:25:34 PM
also LordSneeze ur votes for Billings are much lower than others i seen interesting

I'm tipping he won't even get 10 votes

Where has all this love for Billings come from?

predictions the other guys have done on here
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 04:31:00 PM
also LordSneeze ur votes for Billings are much lower than others i seen interesting

Saints is tough as there is normally a few standout players and votes could go either way. In a lot of cases I took the mids over the fwd mid.

I have him polling for 3 in R8 & 2 in R15
Brownlow Predictor has him as 2 in R7, 3 in R8, 3 in R14 & 1 in R20

In R7 I had Steven with 3, Scully with 2 & Acres with 1.
Steven to me was the 3 in that game. The 2 & 1 could go to any of 5-10 players went Scully was the standout GWS player and Acres as he was active thoughout

In R8 he was clear BOG

In R14 I had Steven as 3 again being more active around the middle of the ground. Dunstan as 2, Dunstan might not vote and could easily be be Billings, Stevens, Sinclair. Same with the 1 vote. I had Harbrow stealing the 1 vote.

R15 I had Walters taking the 3 with Billings 2 & Ross 1

R20  I had Acres with the 3, Gaff with 2 and Steele with 1. A lot might have given Billings 1 for his last minute Goal, but I didn't.

Id be very surprised if he got more than 8
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 04:39:00 PM
Sloane is guaranteed 11 votes minimum imo after rnd 5 possibly 12

Danger will have 9 b4 rnd 5 this game decides it

a matter of if Duncan gets the 2 or Danger



(https://imgur.com/bcpyOUT.jpg)

I had Danger on 9 after R4, but I could argue that he wont get the 3 in R1 or R3 and could as easily be on 6 or 7 instead of 9.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 19, 2017, 04:43:18 PM
Sloane is guaranteed 11 votes minimum imo after rnd 5 possibly 12

Danger will have 9 b4 rnd 5 this game decides it

a matter of if Duncan gets the 2 or Danger



(https://imgur.com/bcpyOUT.jpg)

I'm certainly no expert, but one less possession and one extra goal surely gets Danger the two. He's Danger after all, the umps will be looking to pay him absolutely anything due to his GOAT status :p
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 19, 2017, 04:44:09 PM
yeah or could not get and in rnd 5 could easily go Jelly, Duncan/Tuohy
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 04:46:24 PM
also LordSneeze ur votes for Billings are much lower than others i seen interesting

I'm tipping he won't even get 10 votes

Where has all this love for Billings come from?

predictions the other guys have done on here

You need to remember that most of the counts done here are based off stats, fantasy scoring etc and not from actually watching the game, and looking at from an umpires perspective

That's why I only use predictors such as AFL.com, HS and a few other sites because they are votes done after the game by someone who watched it, and not based around stats

I like Jack Steven for Saints most votes at $5. Didn't have an amazing year, but just needs 3 or 4 BOG's and a couple of 1's to win it, which I think is possible. Ross and Billings don't have the history too, which is another reason I think Steven is work taking a shot on at that juicy price

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 19, 2017, 04:57:25 PM
also LordSneeze ur votes for Billings are much lower than others i seen interesting

I'm tipping he won't even get 10 votes

Where has all this love for Billings come from?

predictions the other guys have done on here

You need to remember that most of the counts done here are based off stats, fantasy scoring etc and not from actually watching the game, and looking at from an umpires perspective

That's why I only use predictors such as AFL.com, HS and a few other sites because they are votes done after the game by someone who watched it, and not based around stats

I like Jack Steven for Saints most votes at $5. Didn't have an amazing year, but just needs 3 or 4 BOG's and a couple of 1's to win it, which I think is possible. Ross and Billings don't have the history too, which is another reason I think Steven is work taking a shot on at that juicy price
Tbf I'd say i watched 6 games a round, and usually asked others about the other 3 who (hopefully) watched it themselves. Break between finishing uni and starting work has been great :P

But obviously it's always hard to know how the umps are going to vote. I'd sometimes adjust my original top 3 as I'd think the umps may go for a proven vote-getter (hence my lack of votes for Oliver), or not give votes to a ruck (Ryder and Kreuz not polling great for me). But it was fun to do throughout the year, can't wait to see how close i end up being :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
Rucks and newcomers are a nightmare for everyone!

Who knows what goes on in the umps mind lol

Kelly and Oliver "should"poll really well, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don''t

Will be curious to see how it pans out
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 19, 2017, 05:01:31 PM
also LordSneeze ur votes for Billings are much lower than others i seen interesting

I'm tipping he won't even get 10 votes

Where has all this love for Billings come from?

predictions the other guys have done on here

You need to remember that most of the counts done here are based off stats, fantasy scoring etc and not from actually watching the game, and looking at from an umpires perspective

That's why I only use predictors such as AFL.com, HS and a few other sites because they are votes done after the game by someone who watched it, and not based around stats

I like Jack Steven for Saints most votes at $5. Didn't have an amazing year, but just needs 3 or 4 BOG's and a couple of 1's to win it, which I think is possible. Ross and Billings don't have the history too, which is another reason I think Steven is work taking a shot on at that juicy price

Totally agree, there is a big difference when doing it via watching compared to stats and fantasy. Without a shadow of doubt if you have the player in SC or DT you will be more attuned to seeing that players impact over others.

Id say 75% of my votes were done off watching the matches. I normally watch 3 or 4 live over the weekend with another 3 or 4 on fast forward during the week. The others are done off stats, news reports and other peoples input. There are clearly people who I think should poll higher or lower than my votes indicated. Duncan, Ryder, Selwood, Oliver, Gaff.

Always be careful using other peoples votes, personally I trust my own as then I can only blame myself if they are off the mark. 

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2017, 06:23:37 PM
Games I watch that I'm 100% convinced of vote wise I put in bold in my count, it's usually just the 3, but sometimes the 2 as well.  Haven't noticed if there are any markets to bet on each specific game yet though.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
Games I watch that I'm 100% convinced of vote wise I put in bold in my count, it's usually just the 3, but sometimes the 2 as well.  Haven't noticed if there are any markets to bet on each specific game yet though.

Yep there is on tab
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: WhatMate on September 19, 2017, 06:40:07 PM
Games I watch that I'm 100% convinced of vote wise I put in bold in my count, it's usually just the 3, but sometimes the 2 as well.  Haven't noticed if there are any markets to bet on each specific game yet though.

Yep there is on tab
BYObrownlow on SB too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 19, 2017, 08:27:29 PM
Hmm..I'm seeing more and more polls with Gaff fairly high.  If you guys are right (those that have him high) he could be the next Voss/Black who consistently poll high regardless of how well they play.  Can see he's paying $26 to finish top 10 on bet365.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2017, 10:27:04 PM
Yeah I'm staying away from WCE all together

JJK, Gaff and even Smitch all a chance to get most votes

I'll be heading down to the TAB on Saturday to splash some cash

Been betting on the Brownlow since Bartel won and have only ever had 1 losing year. Hopefully this year produces a few $ too  ;)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 20, 2017, 09:29:01 AM
Games I watch that I'm 100% convinced of vote wise I put in bold in my count, it's usually just the 3, but sometimes the 2 as well.  Haven't noticed if there are any markets to bet on each specific game yet though.

Yep there is on tab
BYObrownlow on SB too

On SB there is full markets on every matches 3 vote winner.
I had a look last night and grabbed out 25ish markets that I feel are good value. Ill post them up when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 20, 2017, 10:53:43 AM
All These are off sportsbet odds,m but I would be comparing vs other sites for the best value before placing anything. Will likely multi some together.

Top 4 players to combine for 125+ votes @ 4.50
Top 5 (Any Order) D Martin, P Dangerfield, T Mitchell, J Kelly, R Sloane @ 4
Drew Petrie to poll a vote @ 2.40
Heath Shaw to poll a vote @ 2.75
Rory Sloane leader after Round 5 @ 2.5
Mitch Duncan to finish Top 20 @ 11
Mitch Duncan Top 10 finish @ 51
Ben Brown to finish Top 20 @ 11
Matt Crouch Most Votes last 8 rounds (Excluding Martin) @ 18
Marc Murphy vs Robbie Gray - Murphy @ 2.4
Ben Brown vs Joe Daniher - Brown @ 2.2
Bryce Gibbs vs Shaun Higgins - Gibbs @ 1.45
Dixon vs Wingard - Dixon @ 2.4
Viney vs Jones - Jones @ 1.87
Tom Mcdonald vs Walker - Tom Mcdonald @ 2.20
J Patton vs N Riewoldt - Riewoldt @ 3.05 (WTF)
Ward vs Neale - Ward @ 1.72
2nd Stringers - Rocky @ 5.5
GWS Rejects - Tyson @5.5
Most Votes Crows - M Crouch @ 5 (Showing him 1 behind Sloane)
Most votes GWS (Excluding Kelly) - Ward @ 1.75
Most Votes Melbourne - Jones @ 8
Most Votes North Melbourne - Brown @ 2.6
Most votes Port - Wines @ 2.1
Most Votes Richmond (Without Martin or Cothcin) - Grigg @ 2.75
Most Votes Saints - Steven @ 8
Most Voted WCE - Gaff @ 2.75
Most votes Sydney - Parker @ 7
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2017, 01:17:34 PM
with top 20 votes

won't there be too many for the dead heat players scoring = votes etc could easily be 25 in top 20 etc
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 20, 2017, 03:33:28 PM
with top 20 votes

won't there be too many for the dead heat players scoring = votes etc could easily be 25 in top 20 etc

Yes likely to be dead heats, but not that high.
2015 was 13 votes & 2016 was 17 votes to be top 20.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on September 20, 2017, 03:44:42 PM
I only ever bet on the Brownlow, so I just walk into the local TAB and put my bets in the self serve machine

Can anyone tell me, can I do multi's in those machines? And if so, how?

I want to put on a 5 or 6 leg multi for most team votes

Should be a little yellow button at the bottom of the screen which says "add selection to multi", so just select e.g. Jones in the list for Melbourne most votes and then hit the yellow button, then go to the next team etc until you're finished and view your selections. Place your bet from the multi slip. It's pretty easy though doubt you'll struggle
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 20, 2017, 03:53:51 PM
I only ever bet on the Brownlow, so I just walk into the local TAB and put my bets in the self serve machine

Can anyone tell me, can I do multi's in those machines? And if so, how?

I want to put on a 5 or 6 leg multi for most team votes

Should be a little yellow button at the bottom of the screen which says "add selection to multi", so just select e.g. Jones in the list for Melbourne most votes and then hit the yellow button, then go to the next team etc until you're finished and view your selections. Place your bet from the multi slip. It's pretty easy though doubt you'll struggle

Awesome, thanks heaps BM :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2017, 04:14:39 PM
@lordsneeze with J Patton vs N Riewoldt i think sb just does it's odds based off the afl site predictor
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 20, 2017, 04:19:10 PM
@lordsneeze with J Patton vs N Riewoldt i think sb just does it's odds based off the afl site predictor

Looking through the AFL predictor and i see quite a few when I would really question the votes they have given to people.
I just don't see how Patton gets 10 votes and Riewoldt only 3. Then they only have Gaff with votes in 1 game for the year.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 20, 2017, 04:55:04 PM
@lordsneeze with J Patton vs N Riewoldt i think sb just does it's odds based off the afl site predictor

Looking through the AFL predictor and i see quite a few when I would really question the votes they have given to people.
I just don't see how Patton gets 10 votes and Riewoldt only 3. Then they only have Gaff with votes in 1 game for the year.

Predictor gets it wrong most years, hence why I don't even entertain the thought of looking at it.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 20, 2017, 10:22:50 PM
All the more reason to get on Nroo to beat Patton then!!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2017, 12:55:39 PM
I've cooled off a little on Steven and have decided to just not touch Saints

Ross "should"" get the most votes, but with his lack of history he is the unknown, so best to steer clear I think

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 22, 2017, 01:00:14 PM
I've cooled off a little on Steven and have decided to just not touch Saints

Ross "should"" get the most votes, but with his lack of history he is the unknown, so best to steer clear I think

Jones/Billings multi or no balls
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2017, 01:01:09 PM
I've cooled off a little on Steven and have decided to just not touch Saints

Ross "should"" get the most votes, but with his lack of history he is the unknown, so best to steer clear I think

Jones/Billings multi or no balls

Yeah nah I actually like money thanks
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Big Mac on September 22, 2017, 02:45:49 PM
money is overrated
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2017, 06:27:07 PM
Will be at the pub tonight watching the game so will do all my brownlow betting there

Can't remember a year where there was so little value. Reckon I'll end up doing a couple of most teams votes bets and multis and that's it

Win, Top 3, Top 5, so many markets with too little value.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 22, 2017, 09:47:55 PM
Will be at the pub tonight watching the game so will do all my brownlow betting there

Can't remember a year where there was so little value. Reckon I'll end up doing a couple of most teams votes bets and multis and that's it

Win, Top 3, Top 5, so many markets with too little value.

why don't u like betting online
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 22, 2017, 11:35:47 PM
Will be at the pub tonight watching the game so will do all my brownlow betting there

Can't remember a year where there was so little value. Reckon I'll end up doing a couple of most teams votes bets and multis and that's it

Win, Top 3, Top 5, so many markets with too little value.

why don't u like betting online

Because I bet once a year, on the Brownlow - no point

CBF registering online, plus TAB is all cash, untraceable, no transaction history etc
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 23, 2017, 06:31:51 AM
well u get bonus bets online and stuff is all
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 23, 2017, 11:37:28 AM
Will be at the pub tonight watching the game so will do all my brownlow betting there

Can't remember a year where there was so little value. Reckon I'll end up doing a couple of most teams votes bets and multis and that's it

Win, Top 3, Top 5, so many markets with too little value.

why don't u like betting online

Because I bet once a year, on the Brownlow - no point

CBF registering online, plus TAB is all cash, untraceable, no transaction history etc

Don't want them filthy banks knowing where all my hard earned goes :P
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 24, 2017, 03:40:37 PM
Checking out the markets on PointsBet which uses spread betting.  Anyone use this?  Looks super risky, but some tasty markets like Murphy over 13 votes.  Basically if you put $10 on the over then you get a multiplier of how many votes over he gets.  So if Murphy polls 17 then you WIN 4 x $10, but if he polls 11 votes then you LOSE 2 x $10.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 24, 2017, 04:17:33 PM
They have multipliers, so for example Murphy x Gibbs the over is 142 votes.  I have Murphy x Gibbs being 21 x 15 = 294.  If I was right  and you put $10 on this market then 294 - 142 = 152.  152 x $10 = $1520 WIN.  :o. But if you lose by a bit you're basically flowered.  AFL predictor has the lowest counts of the 2 at 11 x 9 = 99.  142 - 99 = 43. 43 x $10 = $430 loss.  :o

You need brass balls to play this game!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 24, 2017, 11:31:46 PM
Crown has a market of most 3 vote games without Danger/Dusty.  Bonts worth a $50 free bet @ $4.50.  I have Bont possibly polling 3 in 7 games whilst Kelly/Sloane in 5 games.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2017, 03:08:07 AM
https://www.triplem.com.au/sport/afl/news/champion-data-reveal-their-brownlow-predictions

did u guys see this

Dusty's votes very low they have Ward beating Kelly too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 08:28:32 AM
CD predictor is always crap. It's just based off their own stats and not what we/umpires see
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 25, 2017, 11:05:14 AM
https://www.triplem.com.au/sport/afl/news/champion-data-reveal-their-brownlow-predictions

did u guys see this

Dusty's votes very low they have Ward beating Kelly too

Lol, Oliver 2nd is a joke.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2017, 11:14:26 AM
yeah i don't give it much respect
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Money Shot on September 25, 2017, 11:53:47 AM
Would you guys say Martin/Mitchell/Kelly trifecta is a reasonably safe bet?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: WhatMate on September 25, 2017, 12:06:44 PM
Ubet having hourly ultra bets first one is dusty 38+ at $3
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 12:16:11 PM
Would you guys say Martin/Mitchell/Kelly trifecta is a reasonably safe bet?

Kelly is the unknown

Most people/sites have Dusty, Kelly, Titch, Sloane as the Top 4, in various orders behind Dusty, but we just don't know with Kelly yet

Looks safeish, but because we don't know how Kelly will go (I expect Ward will get a lot of votes) I think the safest trifecta would be Dusty/Titch/Sloane, but that's just a safety bet - I don't personally think Sloane comes 3rd, more 4th or 5th for mine

Looking forward to the count tonight
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 25, 2017, 12:28:33 PM
Would you guys say Martin/Mitchell/Kelly trifecta is a reasonably safe bet?

Kelly is the unknown

Most people/sites have Dusty, Kelly, Titch, Sloane as the Top 4, in various orders behind Dusty, but we just don't know with Kelly yet

Looks safeish, but because we don't know how Kelly will go (I expect Ward will get a lot of votes) I think the safest trifecta would be Dusty/Titch/Sloane, but that's just a safety bet - I don't personally think Sloane comes 3rd, more 4th or 5th for mine

Looking forward to the count tonight
I have Sloane ahead of Titch by a vote, and Kelly ahead of both (but as you said is an unknown). So i don't think any top 3 is a reasonably safe bet haha
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 12:44:29 PM
Yeah, there's nothing really clear cut other than Dusty winning

All of the others aren't paying much to place/Top 5 either

This is the first Brownlow in 10 years that I'm not really getting too involved in, just because I can't see any clear value

I've just put a couple of most team vote multi's on, which are more so for fun viewing more than anything and I did chuck a little bet on Dusty/Kelly quinella just because $4 is attractive enough odds for me, although it won't surprise me at all if Kelly bombs

Either way, for the first time ever I've spent bugger all on bets this year, so if none of them get up it won't bother me because their all optimistic bets chasing value, although I'll be cheering for them to get up of course, so at least it will be fun viewing and a cheap night out  ;D
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2017, 01:53:56 PM
btw if anyone knows of a live stream for it let us know pls

i know about https://7live.com.au but dont think they show afl stuff

Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 01:59:59 PM
btw if anyone knows of a live stream for it let us know pls

i know about https://7live.com.au but dont think they show afl stuff

Wow, I didn't even realise that it''s not on FTA

That's crazy

So it's just exclusive to Fox Footy?

Would it be on the Telstra Live app?
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 02:04:44 PM
Just had a look and it's on 7 mate

AFL Live app too

Pls kb
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: PowerBug on September 25, 2017, 04:04:36 PM
7pm to 10:45pm on Channel 7 and 7HD in Adelaide.

Melbourne tv guide says it's on Channel 7 and 7HD from 7:30pm to 11:15pm (So, the same time, obviously)

In Perth it's on 7Mate from 5:30pm to 7pm, then on Channel 7 after that.

idc about Sydney or Brisbane so cbf checking them, do it yourselves here:
https://www.yourtv.com.au/guide/perth/
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on September 25, 2017, 05:13:14 PM
Zorko v Oliver for most votes

Zorko paying $1.80

Wow easy $$ I think
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 25, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
Zorko v Oliver for most votes

Zorko paying $1.80

Wow easy $$ I think

TBH we have no idea how well oliver will poll.
I think he beats zorko though.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on September 25, 2017, 05:20:32 PM
Zorko v Oliver for most votes

Zorko paying $1.80

Wow easy $$ I think

TBH we have no idea how well oliver will poll.
I think he beats zorko though.

Really? Reckon Oliver is massively overrated in lots of different vote counts.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2017, 05:22:25 PM
Just had a look and it's on 7 mate

AFL Live app too

Pls kb

pls urself

they don't show AFL games on there even if on the tvguide
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 05:29:40 PM
Just had a look and it's on 7 mate

AFL Live app too

Pls kb

pls urself

they don't show AFL games on there even if on the tvguide

What?

Brownlow is always on Free to Air. No stream necessary :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2017, 05:39:27 PM
Just had a look and it's on 7 mate

AFL Live app too

Pls kb

pls urself

they don't show AFL games on there even if on the tvguide

What?

Brownlow is always on Free to Air. No stream necessary :)

i obv dont have a tv connection
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 25, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
Here are a selection of obscure TAB wagers:

$550 on Alex Rance to place @ $251
$400 on Alex Rance to win @ $251
$200 on Alex Rance to win @ $251
$100 each-way on Matthew Kreuzer to win @ $1001/$251
$100 on Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti to win @ $1001 (2 bets)
$100 on Clayton Oliver to win @ $501
$100 on Matt Crouch/Tom Mitchell quinella @ $251
$100 on David Zaharakis to poll most votes at Essendon @ $51
$50 on Sam Docherty to win the Brownlow @ $501 

BETS HAVE ALSO BEEN LAID ON...

$25 Scott Thompson (ADE)
$20 Ben Griffiths
$15 Lindsay Thomas
$8 Tom Hickey
$7 Brett Deledio
$5 Nic Naitanui
$2 Kurt Tippett

$1 BETS RECEIVED ON...

Luke Dunstan 
Josh Jenkins 
Hugh McCluggage

Jack Steele 
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: _wato on September 25, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
LadBrokes special, Dusty paying $2 to win by more than 2+ votes, max bet of $20, now that's easy double your money fellas
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2017, 07:46:04 PM
sb have paid out Dusty winning bets
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: AaronKirk on September 25, 2017, 08:34:09 PM
Buddy 5 votes in first 2 rounds when I gave him none. Could be a good bet now if you can get on for top 3, top 5.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 25, 2017, 10:12:34 PM
Pendlebury in 3rd? Da fuq? :o

Mental note: Viney polling very well 2 years in a row.

Murphy killing me.  :'(

Made some nice wins on 3 vote getters in individual games.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 25, 2017, 10:50:56 PM
team multis were tough this year anyone nail any good ones
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 25, 2017, 10:51:33 PM
Nice saver for me at the end there, Shuey was paying $26 for 3 votes in that final round!  :o
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: jvalles69 on September 25, 2017, 11:00:02 PM
Some of those top 5, top 10 top 20 markets would've paid well.  Oh well, I prob will break even after all the bets are calculated, back to the drawing board next year.  Think I might've made most of my winnings on single game 3 vote getters.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Capper on September 25, 2017, 11:23:09 PM
Well done Dusty.

Very happy with 3 Swans in the top 11.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: MC on September 25, 2017, 11:32:18 PM
team multis were tough this year anyone nail any good ones

My mates and I chucked in 50 each and hit quite a few. Macrae getting 2 votes in rd23 got us over the line in a few.

One monster 8-leg multi we missed by 1 leg (treloar) which sucked. Would have paid 1500 from 25. Other legs were Wines, Beams, Fyfe, JPK, Rance (no cotch/dusty) Gibbs and Ward (drew with Shiel)

All up we got about 750 back for our 150
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Ricochet on September 25, 2017, 11:33:55 PM
how about Danger getting 0 votes in RD22 lol
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 25, 2017, 11:37:57 PM
how about Danger getting 0 votes in RD22 lol
I really couldn't believe it. Maybe Gill got in the ear of the umps?

He probably didn't deserve 3 though, so it technically didn't make a difference.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on September 26, 2017, 01:04:01 AM
Who actually has the final say on the mark and goal of the year? The goals were hard to split but Daniher beating Howe for mark of the year was the biggest joke since Krakouer beating Walker for it back in 2011
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: MC on September 26, 2017, 01:48:01 AM
Who actually has the final say on the mark and goal of the year? The goals were hard to split but Daniher beating Howe for mark of the year was the biggest joke since Krakouer beating Walker for it back in 2011


One of many awkward moments for the night. The crowd didn't like it at all! Right up there with the captioned tiger mascot scene... Wow!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Grazz on September 26, 2017, 03:24:22 AM
Who actually has the final say on the mark and goal of the year? The goals were hard to split but Daniher beating Howe for mark of the year was the biggest joke since Krakouer beating Walker for it back in 2011

The public voted for GOTY and MOTY this year,  not a good move becomes a popularity contest.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: quinny88 on September 26, 2017, 05:39:06 AM
Who actually has the final say on the mark and goal of the year? The goals were hard to split but Daniher beating Howe for mark of the year was the biggest joke since Krakouer beating Walker for it back in 2011

The public voted for GOTY and MOTY this year,  not a good move becomes a popularity contest.

Yeah that's just stupid. A GWS player could take the greatest mark of all time and wouldn't have a hope of ever winning with no supporters backing them up
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: RaisyDaisy on September 26, 2017, 08:27:50 AM
Yeah Joe D winning was ridiculous, and the look on Howes face was priceless

I had Beams, Gibbs, Sloane and Buddy in a multi so that was a little harsh missing out on Buddy by 1 vote lol

Fyfe polls very well considering the year he had and I didn't think Wines would go as high so he's one to keep in mind moving forward too
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: LordSneeze on September 26, 2017, 09:40:28 AM
All These are off sportsbet odds,m but I would be comparing vs other sites for the best value before placing anything. Will likely multi some together.

Top 4 players to combine for 125+ votes @ 4.50 - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE
Top 5 (Any Order) D Martin, P Dangerfield, T Mitchell, J Kelly, R Sloane @ 4 - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE
Drew Petrie to poll a vote @ 2.40 - LOSS
Heath Shaw to poll a vote @ 2.75 - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE
Rory Sloane leader after Round 5 @ 2.65 - WIN 50%
Mitch Duncan to finish Top 20 @ 11 - LOSS
Mitch Duncan Top 10 finish @ 51 - - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE
Ben Brown to finish Top 20 @ 11 - WIN
Matt Crouch Most Votes last 8 rounds (Excluding Martin) @ 18 - LOSS
Marc Murphy vs Robbie Gray - Murphy @ 2.4 - LOSS
Ben Brown vs Joe Daniher - Brown @ 2.2 - WIN
Bryce Gibbs vs Shaun Higgins - Gibbs @ 1.45 - WIN
Dixon vs Wingard - Dixon @ 2.4 - WIN
Viney vs Jones - Jones @ 1.87 - LOSS
Tom Mcdonald vs Walker - Tom Mcdonald @ 2.20 - WIN
J Patton vs N Riewoldt - Riewoldt @ 3.05 (WTF) - LOSS
Ward vs Neale - Ward @ 1.72 - LOSS
2nd Stringers - Rocky @ 5.5 - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE
GWS Rejects - Tyson @ 5.5 - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE
Most Votes Crows - M Crouch @ 5 (Showing him 1 behind Sloane) - LOSS
Most votes GWS (Excluding Kelly) - Ward @ 1.75 - WIN 50%
Most Votes Melbourne - Jones @ 8 - LOSS
Most Votes North Melbourne - Brown @ 2.6 - WIN
Most votes Port - Wines @ 2.1 - WIN
Most Votes Richmond (Without Martin or Cothcin) - Grigg @ 2.75 - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE
Most Votes Saints - Steven @ 8 - LOSS
Most Voted WCE - Gaff @ 2.75 - LOSS
Most votes Sydney - Parker @ 7 - LOSS - DIDN'T PLACE

Tough year overall. Ended up placing 20 bets @ $10 each
Came out $66.50 ahead pretty much thanks to Ben Brown finishing in the top 20 @ $11
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 26, 2017, 10:22:51 AM
Both Joe & Howe got up to a similar height, Joe took it in his hands and Howe in his chest. Seems fair enough.

Yeah Joe D winning was ridiculous, and the look on Howes face was priceless

I had Beams, Gibbs, Sloane and Buddy in a multi so that was a little harsh missing out on Buddy by 1 vote lol

Fyfe polls very well considering the year he had and I didn't think Wines would go as high so he's one to keep in mind moving forward too
It was hilarious.
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 26, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
This brownlow will forever be known for the daylight robbing of poor Jeremy Howe </3
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: elephants on September 26, 2017, 12:01:14 PM
From brief look...

Max Gawn to poll a vote @ 2.25 - he polled 3
Geelong most team votes @ 9.00 (dont think it happens but it seems overs) - finished on 80 behind Swans and Crows tied on 88
Sloane top 5 finish @ 2.40 - finished 6th by a vote, I would have been so pissed haha
Sloane top 10 finish @ 1.25 (using it as a multi builder) - won, outrage if it didn't.
Callan Ward top 20 finish @ 3.50 - fell 3 votes short of a top 20 finish
Mitch Duncan top 20 finish @ 11.00 - yuck
Nat Fyfe top 20 finish @ 2.00 - wish I did back this, finished =12th
Dusty/Mitchell exacta @ 2.05 - win
Dusty/Mitchell/Kelly trifecta @ 4.50 - loss
Dusty/Mitchell/Kelly/Sloane boxed pick 4 @ 3.75 - loss
R.Sloane leader after round 5 @ 2.50 - win

Now some H2Hs (obv these would be multi'd)

Mitchell to beat Kelly @ 1.55 - won by 4 votes
R.Gray to beat M.Murphy @ 1.55 - won by 3 votes
C.Wingard to beat C.Dixon @ 1.55 - lost by 4 votes
N.Jones to beat J.Viney @ 1.87 - lost by 2 votes

Brownlow Medal Vote record to be broken (ie 36 votes or more) - YES @ 1.60 - got there bang on 36

JPK to win Captains Group (Jelwood, Beams, Murphy, Cotch, C.Ward, Fyfe, Pendles, Heppell, Viney) @ 1.80
Priddis to win Retirees Group (Montagna, Watson, Hodge, Kelly, Boyd, Petrie) @ 3.00 - J.Kelly wins it with 4 ahead of Priddis and Montagna on 3
Heeney to win Young Guns Group (Sicily, Orazio, P.Cripps, DeGoey, Tracca, Burton, Sheed, Steele, Daniel, Lever) - Heeney finishes with 4, beaten by ORRRAAAAAZZZIO on 7 votes :o

Now the Teams

Zorko @ 2.00
Fyfe @ 1.42
Ward @ 1.75 (without Kelly) - drew with Shiel
Higgins @ 2.90 (?)
R.Gray @ 2.10
JPK @ 1.90
Yeo @ 8.00 (??)

Few smokies thrown around there! Will prob only get on 20% of these buy hey, whats the harm in having a look!

Now I didn't end up placing any of these (actually didnt bet on the brownlow at all this year) but I thought I would go back and have a look just for interests sake!

Assuming I put $10 on everything...

$260 outlay

$216.20 return

Would have been down $43.80... Of course there would have been varying amounts on each bet depending on my confidence/arrogance and there would have been multis in there too.

Lets just say I'm glad I went out instead of staying in on the punt hahaha
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: TomK on September 26, 2017, 12:02:48 PM
This brownlow will forever be known for the daylight robbing of poor Jeremy Howe </3
Robbed of MOTY and All Aus in the same year!
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: GoLions on September 26, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
Let's see how I did then :P

Will put what I predicted for each relevant-ish player in brackets

Here's my team votes list at the end of R23:

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Crows:
Sloane 20 (26)
MCrouch 11 (16)

With the Crows having so many performing each week, was hard to pick. Didn't think Sloaney and MCrouch would be the guys to lose out on votes regularly though when it was close!

Lions:
Beams 17 (19)
Zorko 14 (21)
Rocky 2 (11)

Zorko got robbed in the Cats game, surprised Rocky didn't poll as well early on in the season, but we were getting beaten regularly. Stef and Rich polled better than expected, so perhaps they were votes I had given to Rocky myself (an extra 6 there)

Blues:
Gibbs 11 (15)
Murphy 9 (16)

Murphy I expected to poll much better early on, which he didn't

Pies:
Pendles 15 (10)
Adams 14 (15)
Sidey 14 (11)
Treloar 11 (14)

Pendles came outta nowhere, but for the most part pretty even with my distribution, just hard to pick the right Pies mid each week haha

Bombers:
Zerrett 15 (17)
HepD 14 (12)
Zaha 11 (7)
Daniher 9 (13)

Not too bad, had a sneaky feeling HepD would poll well, really stands out even if he only has 20 touches to Zerrett's 30+

Freo:
Fyfe 15 (17)
Neale 14 (11)
Walters 10 (10)

Fairly close here as well, Neale did slightly better, Fyfe slightly worse

Cats:
Danger 33 (41)
Jelwood 13 (15)
Duncan 11 (12)

Danger should have gotten 3 in R22 imho, also those early games where Higgins and Jelwood got BOG were basically the difference between my count and the actual one

Suns:
Ablett 14 (21)
Hall 10 (7)

Thought Gaz would poll better because he is Gaz, DidNotHappen/10

GWS:
Kelly 21 (29)
Ward 11 (15)
Shiel 11 (11)

Kelly was a machine late in the season but didn't get in the votes, also thought Ward would poll better in the latter half of the season

Hawks:
TMitch 25 (25)
GUNston 6 (7)
Roughy 6 (7)

Absolutely nailed the Hawks for the most part!

Dees:
Oliver 12 (6)
TMac 9 (7)
Viney 9 (9)
Hibberd 7 (8)
Jones 7 (12)

So the umps did notice Oliver somewhat, swap him with Jones and my count is dead accurate aha

Norf:
Brown 14 (9)
Cunnington 11 (5)
Higgins 9 (12)

Didn't think Brown would poll as well in a shower team, Cunnington also again polls consistently, tbh I don't see it, but will need to remember for next year

Port:
Wines 18 (18)
Ebert 15 (6)
Gray 12 (13)
Boak 10 (7)
Dixon 8 (11)
Wingard 4 (12)

So glad I got the Wines pick right, Port was a nightmare to judge, Ebert and Wingard basically swapped places for me

Tigs:
Dusty 36 (43)
Cotchin 8 (14)

Dusty just didn't get any of those 1 or 2 vote games (11 BOGs was it?), Cotch also didn't poll as well as he usually does

Saints:
Ross 14 (10)
Billings 11 (15)
Steven 11 (9)

Yeah I thought Billings had 1 more BOG in him, ah well. Was always gonna be close between those 3 I guess

Swans:
JPK 23 (23)
Buddy 22 (21)
Parker 16 (13)

Did pretty well with the Swans too! Parker polled a bit better than I had him early on in the season

Iggs:
JJK 13 (13)
Shuey 10 (16)
Gaff 9 (11)
Yeo 4 (10)

Shuey and Yeo not as well as expected

Doggos:
Bont 19 (21)
Macrae 8 (6)
Johannisen 7 (4)
Dahl 6 (7)

Fairly close for the Dogs, not too bad



Apart from Brisbane, Dees, Norf, and the Eagles, was pretty close up the top for the most part. Not sure if I'll do a count again next year, but we'll see :)
Title: Re: Brownlow 2017
Post by: WhatMate on September 26, 2017, 03:23:33 PM
Cheers mate, was insightful, analysed quite a bit when placing my own punts.
Finished ahead on the night  :)

Had a big bet on JPK most team votes @ 2.10 and Franklin most team votes @ 2.05 which came in and gave me a nice little bumper; was confident neither of these two would be beaten :)