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Title: SC Scoring System
Post by: Torpedo10 on January 30, 2018, 09:16:57 PM
On the SC Website for our 2018 season;

Stat Description   Points Awarded/Deducted
Effective kick   4 Points
Ineffective kick   0 Points
Clanger kick   -4 Points
Effective Handball   1.5 Points
Ineffective handball   0 Points
Handball clanger   -4 Points
Handball receive   1.5 Point
Hardball get   4.5 Points
Loose-ball get   4.5 Points
Goal   8 Points
Behind   1 Point
Mark uncontested (maintaining possession)   2 Points
Mark contested (maintaining possession)   6 Points
Mark uncontested (from opposition)   4 Points
Mark contested (from opposition)   8 Points
Tackles   4 Points
Free kick for   4 Points
Free kick against   -4 Points
Hitout to Advantage   5 Points
Gather from Hitout   2 Points
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: Grufflez on January 31, 2018, 02:03:38 PM
Cheers mate, always need a good reminder of this.
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: meow meow on January 31, 2018, 05:35:46 PM
Pity that's not how they are really awarded. I've never seen anyone get 1.5 points
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: SilverLion on January 31, 2018, 09:03:53 PM
Don't forget the -1 point for every minute they don't gain any points
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: Gigantor on January 31, 2018, 10:14:44 PM
This was posted by CD after people cracked the showers over the scores of Bont vs JPK in rd 12
Bont 18 touches 92SC 97DT, JPK 37 touches and a goal 101SC 112DT

FF Match Centre for reference

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchcentre.html?id=6096

I found it really fascinating, highlighted all the extra actions that result in scores and to some extent the scaling involved

I assume they only list the stats that had at least one players scoring in, Mark contested (from opposition) is not there, so i guess neither of them took an intercept mark

(http://i66.tinypic.com/fdbo6f.jpg)
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: js19 on February 01, 2018, 12:42:07 AM
This was posted by CD after people cracked the showers over the scores of Bont vs JPK in rd 12
Bont 18 touches 92SC 97DT, JPK 37 touches and a goal 101SC 112DT

FF Match Centre for reference

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchcentre.html?id=6096

I found it really fascinating, highlighted all the extra actions that result in scores and to some extent the scaling involved

I assume they only list the stats that had at least one players scoring in, Mark contested (from opposition) is not there, so i guess neither of them took an intercept mark

(http://i66.tinypic.com/fdbo6f.jpg)

First time I've seen that and pretty eyeopening. Defensive efforts making a huge difference in Bont's scores
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: Gigantor on March 30, 2018, 02:58:34 PM
Just to confirm one of the scoring methods in my previous post,

Early in the game last night Dusty was on 4 SC, he knocked the ball out of a contest to a Tigers player who then scored a goal.
Dusty's score jumped to 9 SC without recording any standard stat

Contested Knock-on +4, Effective Knock-on +1

So when people dog about SC scores just remember there are plenty of acts like knock-ons that give decent amounts of SC points but don't show in the main stats
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: Torpedo10 on March 30, 2018, 08:21:54 PM
Just to confirm one of the scoring methods in my previous post,

Early in the game last night Dusty was on 4 SC, he knocked the ball out of a contest to a Tigers player who then scored a goal.
Dusty's score jumped to 9 SC without recording any standard stat

Contested Knock-on +4, Effective Knock-on +1

So when people dog about SC scores just remember there are plenty of acts like knock-ons that give decent amounts of SC points but don't show in the main stats
Not to mention he went from 148->160 in the final five minutes without touching it because he was the only Tigers' player to do anything of consequence all night.  :P
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: PowerBug on March 30, 2018, 08:27:43 PM
Just to confirm one of the scoring methods in my previous post,

Early in the game last night Dusty was on 4 SC, he knocked the ball out of a contest to a Tigers player who then scored a goal.
Dusty's score jumped to 9 SC without recording any standard stat

Contested Knock-on +4, Effective Knock-on +1

So when people dog about SC scores just remember there are plenty of acts like knock-ons that give decent amounts of SC points but don't show in the main stats
Not to mention he went from 148->160 in the final five minutes without touching it because he was the only Tigers' player to do anything of consequence all night.  :P
That's just the in-game scaling at work.


People forget that these scores are not made for SuperCoach, they are made to rank the impact of AFL players each game. So the players that we think get points for free (Bont, Dusty, Danger, Nic Nat) are really good players, so they get those points because they do good shower that isn't always noticed, and they do that good shower at the right times.
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: Tylo on April 08, 2018, 07:44:43 PM
It feels like time for a good ol' SC scoring whinge. WTF happened in the bombers/dogs game? How can one side so comprehensively dominate the SC scoring and only win by 21 points? Because the system is terribly flawed, that's how. CD or anyone who claims it's a fair representation of the actual game, are fooling themselves. Don't get me wrong I love playing SC but you only have to look at a result like that to see there's a lot of luck/randomness involved.
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: GoLions on April 08, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
It feels like time for a good ol' SC scoring whinge. WTF happened in the bombers/dogs game? How can one side so comprehensively dominate the SC scoring and only win by 21 points? Because the system is terribly flawed, that's how. CD or anyone who claims it's a fair representation of the actual game, are fooling themselves. Don't get me wrong I love playing SC but you only have to look at a result like that to see there's a lot of luck/randomness involved.
Bombers were never in the game after quarter time. If the Dogs kicked accurately, they would have won by 50 points. Extra 100 more disposals, and 70 more marks were two areas that they killed the Bombers in fantasy terms.
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: Gigantor on April 08, 2018, 08:28:13 PM
It feels like time for a good ol' SC scoring whinge. WTF happened in the bombers/dogs game? How can one side so comprehensively dominate the SC scoring and only win by 21 points? Because the system is terribly flawed, that's how. CD or anyone who claims it's a fair representation of the actual game, are fooling themselves. Don't get me wrong I love playing SC but you only have to look at a result like that to see there's a lot of luck/randomness involved.
Bombers were never in the game after quarter time. If the Dogs kicked accurately, they would have won by 50 points. Extra 100 more disposals, and 70 more marks were two areas that they killed the Bombers in fantasy terms.

Yeah not sure what you are on about mate, just look at the DT scores....
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: PowerBug on April 08, 2018, 08:42:31 PM
Anyone else see the Dustin Martin tackle conspiracy theory from Round 2? Really interesting lol.
(Jackson Davey on twitter the place to go to see what he's made of Dusty's match vs the Crows)
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: fanTCfool on April 08, 2018, 08:44:47 PM
Anyone else see the Dustin Martin tackle conspiracy theory from Round 2? Really interesting lol.
(Jackson Davey on twitter the place to go to see what he's made of Dusty's match vs the Crows)

Here's the video PB is referencing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGFQ0ZhaRQs
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: SilverLion on April 08, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
Anyone else see the Dustin Martin tackle conspiracy theory from Round 2? Really interesting lol.
(Jackson Davey on twitter the place to go to see what he's made of Dusty's match vs the Crows)

Here's the video PB is referencing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGFQ0ZhaRQs
Haha busted
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: Adamant on April 14, 2018, 08:11:54 PM
Anyone else see the Dustin Martin tackle conspiracy theory from Round 2? Really interesting lol.
(Jackson Davey on twitter the place to go to see what he's made of Dusty's match vs the Crows)

Here's the video PB is referencing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGFQ0ZhaRQs

They are all 100% tackles from what I can see. This Jackson Davey bloke obviously doesn't know the definition of a tackle if he's questioning the legitimacy of them.
Title: Re: SC Scoring System
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 18, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
HOW TO INJURED PLAYERS SCORE POINTS?
It’s not uncommon for a SuperCoach score to steadily increase once a player goes off injured and remains out of action for the rest of the match, as we saw with West Coast forward Daniel Venables on Saturday.

There are many variables that come into play, ranging from the state of the game at the time of the injury to what the player had done while he was on the ground.

Although there are 3300 ranking points assigned to every game, scores are rescaled at the end of each match to take into account when the game was at its closest. In blowouts in which one team leads the entire game, as West Coast did on the weekend, the rankings assigned in the opening quarter of the match will be scaled up at the completion of the match — as that is effectively when the game was won.

In the case of Venables, his second term was his most productive, collecting seven disposals and 36 points — more than half of his score for the match.

TOM ROCKLIFF’S NOSEDIVE
Tom Rockliff is a shadow of the player he was at Brisbane. One of the great SuperCoach scorers — averaging 109 points a game since 2011 — is currently in the worst form slump of his career, averaging 12 disposals, four contested possessions, two clearances, two tackles and just one inside-50 entry.

He is averaging 44 SuperCoach points a game with two scores under 30 in four games, including 29 against Essendon on Sunday. Rockliff ranks 127th in the competition among permanent midfielders.

What’s going on? He has been starved of midfield time, spending 41 per cent of games up forward, ranking fifth at the club for his centre bounce involvement.

After starting in more than 9000 teams, Rockliff has been traded out by almost 6000 coaches since Round 1.

BACK THE BOUNCERS
Running bounces are a bonus in SuperCoach as it keeps the points ticking over. Each running bounce is worth two points, and the leaders in that category this year are Billy Hartung, Heath Shaw and Conor McKenna with 14 apiece. Popular SuperCoach picks, Shane Savage and Kade Simpson aren’t too far behind with 12 each.

LIONS’ GOAL DROUGHT
The scoreboard was Brisbane’s enemy in SuperCoach last round, as the Tigers piled on the opening 12 goals of the game before the Lions got their first through Dayne Zorko. At the time of Zorko’s goal, the margin has ballooned out to 74 points, subsequently his goal was worth only 5.4 points.

Cameron Rayner was Brisbane’s only other goalscorer at the 15-minute mark of the final term, with his goal earning him 5.4 points as well.

Eric Hipwood and Hugh McCluggage were the only two Brisbane players to record a score assist. Hipwood’s score assist was worth 3.28 points as it was recorded at the six-minute mark of the second term, while McCluggage’s assist was worth 4.77 points at that point in the match in the opening term.

SLAM DUNK? DOG’S COSTLY FUMBLE
Josh Dunkley has proven a smart buy this season, averaging 88 after starting the season priced at $296,900. His 107 against Sydney was his best score, but it could have been more.

A dropped mark is a negative stat in SuperCoach and results in four points being deducted from your score. Magnifying the pain for Dunkley’s 5000 SuperCoach owners, his fluffed chest mark late in the final term came at a critical time of the game, resulting in a fall of five points from his score. Had he taken the mark and then converted the goal he would have earned close the 17 points — that’s a swing of 22 points in total.

STAT OF THE WEEK
No ruckman has scored more than 75 points against Melbourne this season.