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Title: Riley Bonner
Post by: PassivePenguin on February 05, 2018, 06:45:04 PM
I know, I know, "Bonner?" You might be wondering as you clicked on onto this post confusion. But let me assure you that he is Marchbank 2.0 for the 2018 season or maybe even better.

1. No Birchall.
We all (well most) had Birchall in our time ready to lock and load or defence without a worry but then we found out he had knee surgery and may be in doubt for round 1. He was the key to making our 4th upgrade in defence so easy for all of us. But maybe the SC Gods had other plans for us (don't get me wrong injury or surgery for a player is NEVER a good thing). Bonner comes in about 20k cheaper than Birchall without the need for compromise within your structure, for example fining 40 odd k for a Brayshaw or something.

2. Consistency.
In all the games that he had played (albeit 4 games) he has not scored below 70 points. A player priced at about a 40 average with the potential to score 30+ more points than that? Insanity. One of the games was an elimination final where he did not place a single clanger disposal for the entire game when the rest of his teammates couldn't kick straight to save their lives. So obviously we can see he is good under pressure.

3. The aging list.
With the port list starting to age, they will be looking to inject some youth into the squad (disregard whatever Koch said, he knows as much about AFL as I know about Thermal Dynamics) and with Bonner entering his 3rd season at the ripe age of 20 years old, he will be looking to cement his place in the best 22 of Port (shamelessly stole part of that line from The Phantom).

Keep a close watch during the JLT and if he is named Round 1 (which is very likely I think) lock him into your teams.

Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: igotworms on February 05, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
Only a small sample size with 3 games last year and 1 the year before. Excellent foot skills, and had a great year at SANFL level, but is that enough? He is only $257K with an average of 76!
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: meow meow on February 05, 2018, 07:01:16 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on February 05, 2018, 07:01:35 PM
This kid is a gun
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: ubeaut on February 05, 2018, 07:01:47 PM
Broadbent injured too. Must at least consider.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 05, 2018, 07:07:02 PM
Bonner has a big future, think he might be the surprise packet of 2018. Rebounders tend to click in their third year. If Birch is out then he'd be worth a punt. Very similar players too.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: meow meow on February 05, 2018, 07:14:09 PM
Why not just pick Sam Wright instead?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Money Shot on February 05, 2018, 07:23:36 PM
if he plays and averages 70 (which seems like a goodish chance) can anyone work out how much money he would have made by round 10 as that is when I would aim to trade him out by.

thanks :)

Currently have Brayshaw but his injury history is concerning.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: PassivePenguin on February 05, 2018, 07:33:56 PM
if he plays and averages 70 (which seems like a goodish chance) can anyone work out how much money he would have made by round 10 as that is when I would aim to trade him out by.

thanks :)

Currently have Brayshaw but his injury history is concerning.

On tooserious.net it's roughly about 100k if he averages 70 from rd.1 to rd.10 so puts him about 350k or thereabouts
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Koop on February 05, 2018, 07:34:47 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

By all means though, if he's persisted with throughout the JLT and named Round 1, he's a very very tempting option if we get some assurance regarding his job security.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Money Shot on February 05, 2018, 07:53:23 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

By all means though, if he's persisted with throughout the JLT and named Round 1, he's a very very tempting option if we get some assurance regarding his job security.
Food for thought.

Will stick with Brayshaw but will defintely watch.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on February 05, 2018, 08:56:20 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

By all means though, if he's persisted with throughout the JLT and named Round 1, he's a very very tempting option if we get some assurance regarding his job security.
Poor DBJ didnt even get a mention :(

Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on February 05, 2018, 10:50:33 PM
Prefer Brayshaw, but will be monitoring him through the JLT.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: enzedder on February 06, 2018, 09:46:04 AM
I need 5 cheap defensive rookies. Reckon I'll get them. If I don't will look at Bonner.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: LordSneeze on February 06, 2018, 10:23:05 AM
I see you read The Phantom's article. Ill be more than happy for people to take Bonner as I see no benefit in it over a rookie option or 4th premium..

Rookie type JS,
Solid scoring, but unlikely to make enough to be a cash cow, nor enough to be a stepping stone. Would need to average 83 up to the bye playing every game to make it worthwhile. For every game he misses he wold need to average 2.6 points more to cover.
Early bye - If he misses a few games or has a few not scoring well and you will be worse off when you get to the bye.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: ben_020285 on February 06, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
Nobody was even considering him and then old mate 'The Phantom' has mentioned him and suddenly he's an option.

Just no.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on February 06, 2018, 02:58:24 PM
Nobody was even considering him and then old mate 'The Phantom' has mentioned him and suddenly he's an option.

Just no.
Can you believe this guy Koop?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: ben_020285 on February 06, 2018, 03:22:39 PM
Nobody was even considering him and then old mate 'The Phantom' has mentioned him and suddenly he's an option.

Just no.
Can you believe this guy Koop?

Okay, I'll re-word it. Barely anybody was even considering Bonner.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Spite on February 06, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
I see you read The Phantom's article. Ill be more than happy for people to take Bonner as I see no benefit in it over a rookie option or 4th premium..

Rookie type JS,
Solid scoring, but unlikely to make enough to be a cash cow, nor enough to be a stepping stone. Would need to average 83 up to the bye playing every game to make it worthwhile. For every game he misses he wold need to average 2.6 points more to cover.
Early bye - If he misses a few games or has a few not scoring well and you will be worse off when you get to the bye.

Well said.

I think it's funny that people take these tid-bits of advice from these experts  and it rings in their ears but I'd rather hear the opinion of some fanfooty members instead. Just remember that at the end of the day these experts know no more than you or I about SC haha we are all experts here!
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: GoLions on February 06, 2018, 11:13:18 PM
Nobody was even considering him and then old mate 'The Phantom' has mentioned him and suddenly he's an option.

Just no.
Can you believe this guy Koop?
Tell me about it
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: ubeaut on February 07, 2018, 05:20:59 PM
He's just another option. Would rather Birchall or rookie for sure. But with limited preseason and limited options respectively people are hoping someone cheap comes along for D4. Who knows? Players can come out of nowhere in SC. Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: js19 on February 07, 2018, 06:09:27 PM
He's just another option. Would rather Birchall or rookie for sure. But with limited preseason and limited options respectively people are hoping someone cheap comes along for D4. Who knows? Players can come out of nowhere in SC. Stranger things have happened.

True. Newman paid off as a rook. Midpricers can do the same, but picking the right one and not too many is usually what brings you down.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 07, 2018, 06:57:30 PM
The FF love for Bonner is OOT

Might turn into a nice player, but for SC right now? No

Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 07, 2018, 07:15:36 PM
The FF love for Bonner is OOT

Might turn into a nice player, but for SC right now? No

Might be one of the few options if the cheapies don't get up.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Koop on February 07, 2018, 07:48:14 PM
The FF love for Bonner is OOT

I'm hurt
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on February 07, 2018, 09:37:29 PM
Literally had to google him to see what he looked like. Never heard of him haha
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Spite on February 08, 2018, 01:13:15 AM
He's just another option. Would rather Birchall or rookie for sure. But with limited preseason and limited options respectively people are hoping someone cheap comes along for D4. Who knows? Players can come out of nowhere in SC. Stranger things have happened.

True. Newman paid off as a rook. Midpricers can do the same, but picking the right one and not too many is usually what brings you down.

Newman was always a massive NEAFL ball winner and everyone expected he'd score well when he played. Reminded us of the Titch situation when he wasn't getting games. This isn't the situation with Bonner as he just isn't all that
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on February 08, 2018, 07:08:00 AM
He's just another option. Would rather Birchall or rookie for sure. But with limited preseason and limited options respectively people are hoping someone cheap comes along for D4. Who knows? Players can come out of nowhere in SC. Stranger things have happened.

True. Newman paid off as a rook. Midpricers can do the same, but picking the right one and not too many is usually what brings you down.

Newman was always a massive NEAFL ball winner and everyone expected he'd score well when he played. Reminded us of the Titch situation when he wasn't getting games. This isn't the situation with Bonner as he just isn't all that
we already know bonner scores decent for a rookie at AFL level, just need him to get games
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: ando_10 on February 08, 2018, 02:52:23 PM
im just gonna throw my 2 cents in and say NO BODY EVER LISTEN TO THE HERALD SUN SC ARTICLES. They are all terrible at SC and have no clue. Just on bonner though good player but a no from me  rookies with better JS
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Money Shot on February 08, 2018, 03:01:23 PM
im just gonna throw my 2 cents in and say NO BODY EVER LISTEN TO THE HERALD SUN SC ARTICLES. They are all terrible at SC and have no clue. Just on bonner though good player but a no from me  rookies with better JS
Agreed. Plenty of people on Fan Footy that know more about supercoach than 'the experts'.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on February 08, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
im just gonna throw my 2 cents in and say NO BODY EVER LISTEN TO THE HERALD SUN SC ARTICLES. They are all terrible at SC and have no clue. Just on bonner though good player but a no from me  rookies with better JS
Agreed. Plenty of people on Fan Footy that know more about supercoach than 'the experts'.
I dont know what article everyone is referring too as i agree, most of those articles are shower. But every now and then they get one right, and if they mentioned Bonner i reckon they are spot on! More so for DT than SC though :P
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: ando_10 on February 08, 2018, 03:10:01 PM
im just gonna throw my 2 cents in and say NO BODY EVER LISTEN TO THE HERALD SUN SC ARTICLES. They are all terrible at SC and have no clue. Just on bonner though good player but a no from me  rookies with better JS
Agreed. Plenty of people on Fan Footy that know more about supercoach than 'the experts'.
I dont know what article everyone is referring too as i agree, most of those articles are shower. But every now and then they get one right, and if they mentioned Bonner i reckon they are spot on! More so for DT than SC though :P
then jump on the DT forum and talk him up hahah but there was one recently with bonner on it
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on February 08, 2018, 04:05:47 PM
im just gonna throw my 2 cents in and say NO BODY EVER LISTEN TO THE HERALD SUN SC ARTICLES. They are all terrible at SC and have no clue. Just on bonner though good player but a no from me  rookies with better JS
Agreed. Plenty of people on Fan Footy that know more about supercoach than 'the experts'.

I just got a click bait email about Robbo picking Liberatore instead of Dustin Martin hahaha enough said
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Southstorm on February 09, 2018, 12:40:39 AM
im just gonna throw my 2 cents in and say NO BODY EVER LISTEN TO THE HERALD SUN SC ARTICLES. They are all terrible at SC and have no clue. Just on bonner though good player but a no from me  rookies with better JS
Are you kidding? It's a competition, only one person can win.

Keep listening to the HS guys! They know their stuff!
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: elephants on February 13, 2018, 12:18:47 PM
Will probably take him with my last pick in my DT Draft, don't think I could do it in a salary cap game. If he blitzes the JLT and locks his spot away I'll consider it, but largely depends on how many def rookies bob up come round 1
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: eaglesman on February 21, 2018, 08:49:55 PM
Wow didn’t realise there was an article about him after reading through the whole thread ...

I’m considering but yeah most likely a no
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 21, 2018, 09:41:15 PM
With the Birchall news this guy is pretty much locked for me, best rookie defender on offer.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on February 21, 2018, 10:01:00 PM
With the Birchall news this guy is pretty much locked for me, best rookie defender on offer.

Rookie? Isn't he like 250k
I don't know anything about him to actually pick him
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 21, 2018, 10:28:20 PM
With the Birchall news this guy is pretty much locked for me, best rookie defender on offer.

Rookie? Isn't he like 250k
I don't know anything about him to actually pick him

Most people went for Marchbank last year, Bonner has a similar scoring potential. Was a gun junior and now has 3 preseasons behind him. Was picked for a final so Port see him as the future, silky kicking action and a very nice height.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Southstorm on February 23, 2018, 05:01:54 PM
With the Birchall news this guy is pretty much locked for me, best rookie defender on offer.

Rookie? Isn't he like 250k
I don't know anything about him to actually pick him

Most people went for Marchbank last year, Bonner has a similar scoring potential. Was a gun junior and now has 3 preseasons behind him. Was picked for a final so Port see him as the future, silky kicking action and a very nice height.
Was picked for a final because Jonas got suspended but Hombsch and Broadbent were already injured.

Bonner is fools gold IMO. JS is way too shaky for me to start; one wrong move and he's out.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Koop on February 23, 2018, 05:06:20 PM
With the Birchall news this guy is pretty much locked for me, best rookie defender on offer.

Rookie? Isn't he like 250k
I don't know anything about him to actually pick him

Most people went for Marchbank last year, Bonner has a similar scoring potential. Was a gun junior and now has 3 preseasons behind him. Was picked for a final so Port see him as the future, silky kicking action and a very nice height.
Was picked for a final because Jonas got suspended but Hombsch and Broadbent were already injured.

Bonner is fools gold IMO. JS is way too shaky for me to start; one wrong move and he's out.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: frenzy on February 23, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
With the Birchall news this guy is pretty much locked for me, best rookie defender on offer.

Rookie? Isn't he like 250k
I don't know anything about him to actually pick him

Most people went for Marchbank last year, Bonner has a similar scoring potential. Was a gun junior and now has 3 preseasons behind him. Was picked for a final so Port see him as the future, silky kicking action and a very nice height.
Was picked for a final because Jonas got suspended but Hombsch and Broadbent were already injured.

Bonner is fools gold IMO. JS is way too shaky for me to start; one wrong move and he's out.

in 3 weeks time, he may be all we have. Wish I had a crystal ball.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 23, 2018, 05:15:22 PM
With the Birchall news this guy is pretty much locked for me, best rookie defender on offer.

Rookie? Isn't he like 250k
I don't know anything about him to actually pick him

Most people went for Marchbank last year, Bonner has a similar scoring potential. Was a gun junior and now has 3 preseasons behind him. Was picked for a final so Port see him as the future, silky kicking action and a very nice height.
Was picked for a final because Jonas got suspended but Hombsch and Broadbent were already injured.

Bonner is fools gold IMO. JS is way too shaky for me to start; one wrong move and he's out.

Those players don't offer much drive from the backline, Bonner a true rebounder. I'd say his competition is more with Pittard, Hartlett & Houston. Just have to wait and see if he's named but I suspect he's definitely in the frame, played AFLX and impressed, now named on the ground for JLT. Hasn't put a foot wrong in his 4 games either.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Koop on February 23, 2018, 05:36:34 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 23, 2018, 05:56:15 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on February 23, 2018, 06:10:22 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.

Will hurt if the rookie you have to field for those early weeks is scoring 40s though
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: tkringle on February 23, 2018, 06:39:28 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.

What is the last example of picking a player you didn’t play round 1 but ended up being a good call to pick?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Gigantor on February 23, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.

What is the last example of picking a player you didn’t play round 1 but ended up being a good call to pick?

Zorko 2016  :P
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 23, 2018, 07:17:43 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.

Will hurt if the rookie you have to field for those early weeks is scoring 40s though

It will be two bites of the cherry though, Hawks have a stack of Sunday games. Be the perfect if Murray or Mihocek  gets named along with Mirra, can loop every match from round 2 onwards. Given the defensive rookies are expensive and scarce I'm warming to this strategy. Might even bring in another premo defender like Simpson and play Birch at D5 upon his return.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 23, 2018, 07:33:12 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.

What is the last example of picking a player you didn’t play round 1 but ended up being a good call to pick?

Have done it twice with rookies, first was Matt Crouch & the other was Cockatoo. Worked out fine in the first instance, Cocky did well and then got injured.

In dollar terms, Birch/Mirra costs 380k. Think I would rather do that than pay 340k on Coffield & Hibberd who may or may not be regulars.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Huttabito on February 23, 2018, 07:51:01 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.

What is the last example of picking a player you didn’t play round 1 but ended up being a good call to pick?

Zorko 2016  :P
Remember a few smart cookies who locked in a rookie 90 score and bought Zorko in to loophole. Massive FWD POD averaging 110+ from there on out.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on February 23, 2018, 07:57:21 PM
The other alternative to Bonner is Bowes, apparently looked good in GC's intra club. Will have to mull over this but might need to creative.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Jalapeno on February 23, 2018, 09:18:54 PM
If he is named round 1 he is a 100% lock for me
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: tkringle on February 24, 2018, 03:47:59 PM
I am a massive fan of Bonner for the long term, as most XV coaches will know. As a Port man though, I'm not too sure that Broadbent's injury just magically guarantees him uninterrupted gametime early this year as some have suggested. We already have Pittard, Houston, & Hartlett playing the same role even before Broadbent's injury. It might see him handed an opportunity early in the season along with Cannon McKenzie, but he's very likely to still be on the fringes regardless of the injury to Broadbent.

All 3 of Pittard, Hartlett & Houston start before Bonner 100%

With all this talk I might just pick Birch and bench him, Graham Wright basically said he'll be back in the early rounds, will be a major POD too. A Birch/Mirra combo can also be loopholed given the Hawks pay plenty of Sunday games.

What is the last example of picking a player you didn’t play round 1 but ended up being a good call to pick?

Zorko 2016  :P
Remember a few smart cookies who locked in a rookie 90 score and bought Zorko in to loophole. Massive FWD POD averaging 110+ from there on out.

Ahh yes, I now remember not following and missing out on that strategy. Was a masterstroke by some
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Marcos83 on February 24, 2018, 07:58:00 PM
80 average guaranteed at 250k, what in the hell.
Just look at the kids consistency.

Lock if R1 named.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: batt on February 25, 2018, 12:53:40 PM
Biggest criticism I've read is that he's a pretty poor defender.

Think I'm more interested in Sam Wright who's shown he can average 75 and is cheaper.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on February 25, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
80 average guaranteed at 250k, what in the hell.
Just look at the kids consistency.

Lock if R1 named.

Don't know how you could garuntee that from someone that's played 3 games but hey I'll be keeping a close on him
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: stevolen23 on March 24, 2018, 05:13:28 PM
bonner is definitely worth looking at after ports bye. Excellent game against freo
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: fanTCfool on March 24, 2018, 05:29:45 PM
bonner is definitely worth looking at after ports bye. Excellent game against freo

Will be too late by then, gotta grab him ahead of Round 3 if you're getting him - worry about covering him over the bye later.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Frankfaust on March 24, 2018, 05:31:28 PM
bonner is definitely worth looking at after ports bye. Excellent game against freo

Will be too late by then, gotta grab him ahead of Round 3 if you're getting him - worry about covering him over the bye later.


Thinking Byrne to Bonner next week. Sound reasonable?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 24, 2018, 06:29:44 PM
bonner is definitely worth looking at after ports bye. Excellent game against freo

Will be too late by then, gotta grab him ahead of Round 3 if you're getting him - worry about covering him over the bye later.


Thinking Byrne to Bonner next week. Sound reasonable?

Definitely one to consider.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Gandalf123 on March 24, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
bonner is definitely worth looking at after ports bye. Excellent game against freo

Will be too late by then, gotta grab him ahead of Round 3 if you're getting him - worry about covering him over the bye later.


Thinking Byrne to Bonner next week. Sound reasonable?

Definitely one to consider.
Yep thinking of giving Byrne another week then pull the trigger
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Holz on March 24, 2018, 06:59:08 PM
bonner is definitely worth looking at after ports bye. Excellent game against freo

Will be too late by then, gotta grab him ahead of Round 3 if you're getting him - worry about covering him over the bye later.


Thinking Byrne to Bonner next week. Sound reasonable?

Definitely one to consider.
Yep thinking of giving Byrne another week then pull the trigger

Its early but its what i fo.

Zorko byrne to cripps bonner is locked in
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: fanTCfool on March 24, 2018, 07:00:06 PM
bonner is definitely worth looking at after ports bye. Excellent game against freo

Will be too late by then, gotta grab him ahead of Round 3 if you're getting him - worry about covering him over the bye later.


Thinking Byrne to Bonner next week. Sound reasonable?

Definitely one to consider.
Yep thinking of giving Byrne another week then pull the trigger

Its early but its what i fo.

Zorko byrne to cripps bonner is locked in

Jumping off Zorko pretty quickly Holz, no second chance for a proven premo?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: ubeaut on March 24, 2018, 07:01:44 PM
Frig me I knew he was worth considering but this???
And to think so many were like who the hells that, no way, poor JS etc.
Obviously main man out of defence and no Pittard,Broadbent see what he does next week I guess. If I had C.Ellis or Byrne I'd be making the trade.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: sammy123 on March 24, 2018, 07:04:02 PM
Frig me I knew he was worth considering but this???
And to think so many were like who the hells that, no way, poor JS etc.
Obviously main man out of defence and no Pittard,Broadbent see what he does next week I guess. If I had C.Ellis or Byrne I'd be making the trade.

Yeah i didnt select as i thought js was weak. But damn. Assess next week but i cant bring him in anyways if i wanted
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Gandalf123 on March 24, 2018, 07:07:44 PM
Worth waiting a week playing Sydney in Sydney next week see how he goes
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 24, 2018, 07:10:16 PM
Will assess next week but very possible to go forward mid pricer down to high performing rookie & Murphy up to Bonner. Won't move until I get a second look however. Would have to go 90+ next week.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 24, 2018, 07:15:34 PM
Not just in this thread, but the knee jerk reactions on the forum are already laughable

Deep breathe people
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: bkp130 on March 24, 2018, 10:06:03 PM
If He does it again next week He is In. He was in and out all pre-season so im kicking myself a bit
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: no eye deer on March 24, 2018, 10:40:43 PM
Not just in this thread, but the knee jerk reactions on the forum are already laughable

Deep breathe people

Every year.

In saying that, I think most are just excited to be playing SC again and most on here will settle down by next Thursday.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Hazza09 on March 25, 2018, 04:35:00 AM
Had him in my side till 3pm Friday when I got convinced his JS was shaky and that he hasn’t played much due to injuries so I then downgraded him to Murphy and upgraded Constable to JOM.

Fuming!

Let’s see next week how he goes, but seems like Bonner along with McGrath and Sicily will be possible correction trades.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: crowls on March 25, 2018, 07:16:05 AM
Let’s see next week how he goes, but seems like Bonner along with McGrath and Sicily will be possible correction trades.
only JS issue keeping Bonner out of my team, 
McGrath just looks so at home one of the best decision makers with the ball.    only ?  where do we get the cash.    for me it would be dev smith and this just seems sideways trade for little gain


JOM v Mcgrath  v Dev   choose 2.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Holz on March 25, 2018, 07:54:11 AM
Had him in my side till 3pm Friday when I got convinced his JS was shaky and that he hasn’t played much due to injuries so I then downgraded him to Murphy and upgraded Constable to JOM.

Fuming!

Let’s see next week how he goes, but seems like Bonner along with McGrath and Sicily will be possible correction trades.

Good moves i think.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: tkringle on March 25, 2018, 08:35:23 AM
Had him in my side till 3pm Friday when I got convinced his JS was shaky and that he hasn’t played much due to injuries so I then downgraded him to Murphy and upgraded Constable to JOM.

Fuming!

Let’s see next week how he goes, but seems like Bonner along with McGrath and Sicily will be possible correction trades.

Good moves i think.

Getting all of Bonner, McGrath and Sicily will be expensive. Going to be cutting premiums already to finance these moves?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on March 25, 2018, 09:07:54 AM
Could be Marchbank 2.0. Suspect a lot will jump on if he goes 80+ this week.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: stevolen23 on March 25, 2018, 09:19:55 AM
I currently have sicily at d4 and dunkley at f4. Would it be a good move moving sicily to f4, taking dunkley out and then replacing him with either bowes or bonner? And with the extra cash use it to upgrade walters to billings?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: caluuum on March 25, 2018, 09:52:16 AM
Dunkley hasn’t played yet....? Keep calm lol
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bones Bombers on March 25, 2018, 10:18:22 AM
I have the cash to trade Dow to Bonner via Finlayson. May wait another week though .
Can also go to JOM but don’t see him as a keeper whereas Bonner could become one and is cheaper so will make more cash.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on March 25, 2018, 10:21:25 AM
Pittards back in like 3-4 weeks wouldnt waste a trade if you didnt start with him
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bones Bombers on March 25, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
Tbh that might not be a bad thing as my main worry would be a forward tag. Pittard might prevent that.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Holz on March 25, 2018, 12:08:15 PM
Had him in my side till 3pm Friday when I got convinced his JS was shaky and that he hasn’t played much due to injuries so I then downgraded him to Murphy and upgraded Constable to JOM.

Fuming!

Let’s see next week how he goes, but seems like Bonner along with McGrath and Sicily will be possible correction trades.

Good moves i think.

Getting all of Bonner, McGrath and Sicily will be expensive. Going to be cutting premiums already to finance these moves?

I meant getting jom was a good move. I wouldnt burn trades to get those guys.

If bonner goes huge again and byrne fails ill get him. Aftet sleeping on it double your sample size.

Next week you will have 2 score sample size and named 3rd game
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: brano on March 25, 2018, 05:06:33 PM
Naughton to bonner after rnd 2 for me.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Southstorm on March 25, 2018, 06:45:28 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 25, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Southstorm on March 25, 2018, 06:54:41 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Depends how you want to trade him in. A sideways trade is innocuous enough, but I wouldn't be making any structural changes to accommodate him.

And keep in mind that while Pittard probably won't walk straight back into the side, but he's only a month away from playing again
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: tommy10 on March 25, 2018, 11:11:06 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Trade locked then. Knew Naughton had good JS but didn’t expect his scoring to be that bad although he is a key back and Doggies got smashed so a small glimmer of hope for Naughton.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on March 25, 2018, 11:25:06 PM
Giving it one week and another poor one from Naughton and good one from Bonner and I'll make the switch. Have the cash sitting there to make it happen
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Thewizz71 on March 26, 2018, 07:46:49 AM
Giving it one week and another poor one from Naughton and good one from Bonner and I'll make the switch. Have the cash sitting there to make it happen

My thoughts too. Give each another week.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 26, 2018, 10:47:49 AM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Depends how you want to trade him in. A sideways trade is innocuous enough, but I wouldn't be making any structural changes to accommodate him.

And keep in mind that while Pittard probably won't walk straight back into the side, but he's only a month away from playing again

The role Bonner is playing is identical to Savage, Simpson, Hibberd etc. He has keeper written all over him and at worst will make 150k in very quick time. The only trade I would make would be Armitage but that is also to free up 60k to make some other rookie trades. Another ton and he's in.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 26, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Depends how you want to trade him in. A sideways trade is innocuous enough, but I wouldn't be making any structural changes to accommodate him.

And keep in mind that while Pittard probably won't walk straight back into the side, but he's only a month away from playing again

The role Bonner is playing is identical to Savage, Simpson, Hibberd etc. He has keeper written all over him and at worst will make 150k in very quick time. The only trade I would make would be Armitage but that is also to free up 60k to make some other rookie trades. Another ton and he's in.
I was thinking the exact same about trading armitage. Would allow me to go Walters to Sicily and Zorko to Danger the week after if they score badly again
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: JBs-Hawks on March 26, 2018, 02:27:03 PM
Burton to bonner
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: no eye deer on March 26, 2018, 02:28:57 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Depends how you want to trade him in. A sideways trade is innocuous enough, but I wouldn't be making any structural changes to accommodate him.

And keep in mind that while Pittard probably won't walk straight back into the side, but he's only a month away from playing again

The role Bonner is playing is identical to Savage, Simpson, Hibberd etc. He has keeper written all over him and at worst will make 150k in very quick time. The only trade I would make would be Armitage but that is also to free up 60k to make some other rookie trades. Another ton and he's in.
I was thinking the exact same about trading armitage. Would allow me to go Walters to Sicily and Zorko to Danger the week after if they score badly again

Yeah me too. Armitage to Fogarty would let me go Walters to Heeney and Noughton to Bonner. Or leave me with a nice war chest if Walters comes out and kills it this week.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Holz on March 26, 2018, 04:16:30 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Depends how you want to trade him in. A sideways trade is innocuous enough, but I wouldn't be making any structural changes to accommodate him.

And keep in mind that while Pittard probably won't walk straight back into the side, but he's only a month away from playing again

The role Bonner is playing is identical to Savage, Simpson, Hibberd etc. He has keeper written all over him and at worst will make 150k in very quick time. The only trade I would make would be Armitage but that is also to free up 60k to make some other rookie trades. Another ton and he's in.
I was thinking the exact same about trading armitage. Would allow me to go Walters to Sicily and Zorko to Danger the week after if they score badly again

Yeah me too. Armitage to Fogarty would let me go Walters to Heeney and Noughton to Bonner. Or leave me with a nice war chest if Walters comes out and kills it this week.

why trade Armitage the guy put up 79, if he just keeps that up he will go up 100k in price. He also picked up a little knock and was tracking along really nice in the first half. 

The 79 only looks bad because of kelly and Holman going big. Its a good 15 points above a normal rookie score, look at Braysahw Banfield

Armitage plays north this week and id punt on Armitage going 80+ with relative ease.

Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Koop on March 26, 2018, 04:28:41 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Depends how you want to trade him in. A sideways trade is innocuous enough, but I wouldn't be making any structural changes to accommodate him.

And keep in mind that while Pittard probably won't walk straight back into the side, but he's only a month away from playing again

The role Bonner is playing is identical to Savage, Simpson, Hibberd etc. He has keeper written all over him and at worst will make 150k in very quick time. The only trade I would make would be Armitage but that is also to free up 60k to make some other rookie trades. Another ton and he's in.
I was thinking the exact same about trading armitage. Would allow me to go Walters to Sicily and Zorko to Danger the week after if they score badly again

Yeah me too. Armitage to Fogarty would let me go Walters to Heeney and Noughton to Bonner. Or leave me with a nice war chest if Walters comes out and kills it this week.

why trade Armitage the guy put up 79, if he just keeps that up he will go up 100k in price. He also picked up a little knock and was tracking along really nice in the first half. 

The 79 only looks bad because of kelly and Holman going big. Its a good 15 points above a normal rookie score, look at Braysahw Banfield

Armitage plays north this week and id punt on Armitage going 80+ with relative ease.

Yep, especially with Steven or Ross being reamed hard by Jacobs.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 26, 2018, 04:59:26 PM
No point chasing last week's points, folks.

And if he scores well next week?
Depends how you want to trade him in. A sideways trade is innocuous enough, but I wouldn't be making any structural changes to accommodate him.

And keep in mind that while Pittard probably won't walk straight back into the side, but he's only a month away from playing again

The role Bonner is playing is identical to Savage, Simpson, Hibberd etc. He has keeper written all over him and at worst will make 150k in very quick time. The only trade I would make would be Armitage but that is also to free up 60k to make some other rookie trades. Another ton and he's in.
I was thinking the exact same about trading armitage. Would allow me to go Walters to Sicily and Zorko to Danger the week after if they score badly again

Yeah me too. Armitage to Fogarty would let me go Walters to Heeney and Noughton to Bonner. Or leave me with a nice war chest if Walters comes out and kills it this week.

why trade Armitage the guy put up 79, if he just keeps that up he will go up 100k in price. He also picked up a little knock and was tracking along really nice in the first half. 

The 79 only looks bad because of kelly and Holman going big. Its a good 15 points above a normal rookie score, look at Braysahw Banfield

Armitage plays north this week and id punt on Armitage going 80+ with relative ease.

Will watch & monitor, will assess both players B/E's & make some assessment about Bonner being able to hold down D6. The extra cash will also enable Olango to English.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on March 26, 2018, 05:32:54 PM
I should have looked more into this guy. Plenty of cash to do Naughton > Bonner next week though if the form continues
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: meow meow on March 26, 2018, 05:42:47 PM
Will probably get destroyed by Grape this week and never recover.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on March 26, 2018, 05:49:22 PM
Will probably get destroyed by Grape this week and never recover.

#1 fan boy haha
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 26, 2018, 05:58:36 PM
Will probably get destroyed by Grape this week and never recover.

You've been Libba-rated, everybody get on.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Adamant on March 26, 2018, 08:59:26 PM
Had him in my side for a fair chunk of the pre-season. Then I decided that he wouldn't have the ceiling to offset any bad games with all the points going around at Port so I got rid of him. Scores 119. flower him
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Huttabito on March 26, 2018, 10:41:04 PM
Had him in my side for a fair chunk of the pre-season. Then I decided that he wouldn't have the ceiling to offset any bad games with all the points going around at Port so I got rid of him. Scores 119. flower him
You know that will be his highest game for the season which is only in his price rises for 1 week. Jump on now you've missed the game that inflates his average. I doubt he will be a keeper so to bring him in now, you'll be using 2 trades for what, $170-200k?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on March 26, 2018, 10:43:11 PM
Had him in my side for a fair chunk of the pre-season. Then I decided that he wouldn't have the ceiling to offset any bad games with all the points going around at Port so I got rid of him. Scores 119. flower him
You know that will be his highest game for the season which is only in his price rises for 1 week. Jump on now you've missed the game that inflates his average. I doubt he will be a keeper so to bring him in now, you'll be using 2 trades for what, $170-200k?
Doubt it's a one off, they seem to want the ball in his hands. Seemed to play the Hibberd/Laird/Savage/Lloyd etc. role for them.

Agree though, wouldn't burn 2 trades for some cash and a 50/50 keeper.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Southstorm on March 26, 2018, 11:11:49 PM
Had him in my side for a fair chunk of the pre-season. Then I decided that he wouldn't have the ceiling to offset any bad games with all the points going around at Port so I got rid of him. Scores 119. flower him
You know that will be his highest game for the season which is only in his price rises for 1 week. Jump on now you've missed the game that inflates his average. I doubt he will be a keeper so to bring him in now, you'll be using 2 trades for what, $170-200k?
Could also be a 60ppg upgrade on old mate Naughton though, which I why I'm still pondering whether or not to do it. If Naughton get's a little more freedom to zone off or some more opportunity to attack this week, Bonner goes from being a need to a luxury. Just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 27, 2018, 11:51:02 AM
Had him in my side for a fair chunk of the pre-season. Then I decided that he wouldn't have the ceiling to offset any bad games with all the points going around at Port so I got rid of him. Scores 119. flower him
You know that will be his highest game for the season which is only in his price rises for 1 week. Jump on now you've missed the game that inflates his average. I doubt he will be a keeper so to bring him in now, you'll be using 2 trades for what, $170-200k?
Doubt it's a one off, they seem to want the ball in his hands. Seemed to play the Hibberd/Laird/Savage/Lloyd etc. role for them.

Agree though, wouldn't burn 2 trades for some cash and a 50/50 keeper.

As we've seen with Witherden, making the jump to keeper isn't as monumental as other lines. Bonner is also in his third year, so far he hasn't gone under 75 so it's safe to say his floor is premo worthy. All he needs to do from here is score a ton every few matches.  I'm tempted as I see parallels with Roberton a few years ago, similar price point & similar circumstances.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Koop on March 28, 2018, 09:55:51 AM
Had him in my side for a fair chunk of the pre-season. Then I decided that he wouldn't have the ceiling to offset any bad games with all the points going around at Port so I got rid of him. Scores 119. flower him
You know that will be his highest game for the season which is only in his price rises for 1 week. Jump on now you've missed the game that inflates his average. I doubt he will be a keeper so to bring him in now, you'll be using 2 trades for what, $170-200k?
Doubt it's a one off, they seem to want the ball in his hands. Seemed to play the Hibberd/Laird/Savage/Lloyd etc. role for them.

Agree though, wouldn't burn 2 trades for some cash and a 50/50 keeper.

As we've seen with Witherden, making the jump to keeper isn't as monumental as other lines. Bonner is also in his third year, so far he hasn't gone under 75 so it's safe to say his floor is premo worthy. All he needs to do from here is score a ton every few matches.  I'm tempted as I see parallels with Roberton a few years ago, similar price point & similar circumstances.

 
I'd say Witherden is certainly the anomaly when looking at rookies stepping up to premium status so quickly. For all of Bonner's great traits, he has never shown a real ball-magnet ability at SANFL level and it concerns me that the weekend may have been one of his standout games for the season. The SCG isn't as wide-open as the Oval is against a piss poor Fremantle, thats for sure.

That being said though, he's probably one of the few players at that price that won't have absolute stinkers. I'd be very surprised to see him score under 55 more than maaaybe once or twice this year. I think expecting him to be a premium is a tad unrealistic considering his score was probably inflated by the lack of Fremantle pressure on him coming out the back half, but I definitely think he can be a solid 75-80 option for the season no doubt, handy extra player during the bye weeks and an eventual D7-D8.

Pittard coming back in 4-5 weeks is also an unknown on his scoring as they both play the same role. Not sure what's going to happen there but I'd suspect Hartlett will be moved up the ground if Bonner continues to make things happen like he's currently doing. Just remember though, Fremantle had absolutely no pressure on him, and two of his other career games have been against the GC who are much in the same boat, I want to see him tested before I can start singing his praises fully.   

Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Huttabito on March 28, 2018, 10:37:25 AM
Agree with the above. 70+ against the swans, looks like he'll be worth the punt.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: smashbox on March 28, 2018, 11:05:07 AM
He's definately a wait another week before jumping on candidate.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 28, 2018, 11:40:35 AM
Think 80-85 is achievable which is fine for D6-D7.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Hazza09 on March 28, 2018, 01:19:17 PM
If he can dominate against Sydney away this weekend and go anywhere 80+ above he is in for Naughton....assuming that Naughton has another stinker!
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: jvalles69 on March 28, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
I took Seedsman over Bonner, got a 75 off 26 touches.  Thinking going to Bonner next week, but prob too sideways.  Seedsman should still make decent money.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: PowerBug on March 28, 2018, 01:46:27 PM
I took Seedsman over Bonner, got a 75 off 26 touches.  Thinking going to Bonner next week, but prob too sideways.  Seedsman should still make decent money.
Nup wouldn't do that, sit tight with Seedsman, as you said he will still make you cash so I don't think it's worth the trade. At least not at this stage, let's see what Round 2 brings :)



Obviously I'm not going to trade him in this week but he's got to be considered if he puts up another good performance (80+) against the Swans if not for keeper status at least for the cash that he will make in the coming weeks. I just don't see him doing it over the whole season so I'd be wary of bringing him in hoping to have a keeper from it. He's barely played any games and there's still Pittard to return and Kenny loves Jasper. His spot in the side is safe, but his scoring will decline I think.

From a personal point of view I left some cash in hand so it won't take a lot for me to fund a Murphy -> Bonner. Doing Rayner to English or Bont to Conigs will fund it, but not doing anything this week.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: jvalles69 on March 28, 2018, 02:00:48 PM
I took Seedsman over Bonner, got a 75 off 26 touches.  Thinking going to Bonner next week, but prob too sideways.  Seedsman should still make decent money.
Nup wouldn't do that, sit tight with Seedsman, as you said he will still make you cash so I don't think it's worth the trade. At least not at this stage, let's see what Round 2 brings :)



Obviously I'm not going to trade him in this week but he's got to be considered if he puts up another good performance (80+) against the Swans if not for keeper status at least for the cash that he will make in the coming weeks. I just don't see him doing it over the whole season so I'd be wary of bringing him in hoping to have a keeper from it. He's barely played any games and there's still Pittard to return and Kenny loves Jasper. His spot in the side is safe, but his scoring will decline I think.

From a personal point of view I left some cash in hand so it won't take a lot for me to fund a Murphy -> Bonner. Doing Rayner to English or Bont to Conigs will fund it, but not doing anything this week.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Brikett on March 28, 2018, 05:04:53 PM
Wouldn't be wasting a trade for him now 1 round in.

Scored well against an unaccountable side and to be fair, played a good role for Supercoach.

Will probably only have a few more weeks in his current role before Pittard takes over from him.

Will need another good score next week to convince me he can make around 150-200k or so and be a good stepping stone.

Certainly don't think he'll be a keeper or in the top 10 defenders at season end once Pittard comes back and takes back that primary rebound role off of half back.

Cool your jets lads, we're a round in.

Lets see how he backs it up.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 28, 2018, 05:10:15 PM
Wouldn't be wasting a trade for him now 1 round in.

Scored well against an unaccountable side and to be fair, played a good role for Supercoach.

Will probably only have a few more weeks in his current role before Pittard takes over from him.

Will need another good score next week to convince me he can make around 150-200k or so and be a good stepping stone.

Certainly don't think he'll be a keeper or in the top 10 defenders at season end once Pittard comes back and takes back that primary rebound role off of half back.

Cool your jets lads, we're a round in.

Lets see how he backs it up.

Don't think anyone is jumping in yet, this week a good test.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: eaglesman on March 28, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
Wouldn't be wasting a trade for him now 1 round in.

Scored well against an unaccountable side and to be fair, played a good role for Supercoach.

Will probably only have a few more weeks in his current role before Pittard takes over from him.

Will need another good score next week to convince me he can make around 150-200k or so and be a good stepping stone.

Certainly don't think he'll be a keeper or in the top 10 defenders at season end once Pittard comes back and takes back that primary rebound role off of half back.

Cool your jets lads, we're a round in.

Lets see how he backs it up.

Don't think anyone is jumping in yet, this week a good test.

I jumped in
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bully on March 28, 2018, 06:57:23 PM
Wouldn't be wasting a trade for him now 1 round in.

Scored well against an unaccountable side and to be fair, played a good role for Supercoach.

Will probably only have a few more weeks in his current role before Pittard takes over from him.

Will need another good score next week to convince me he can make around 150-200k or so and be a good stepping stone.

Certainly don't think he'll be a keeper or in the top 10 defenders at season end once Pittard comes back and takes back that primary rebound role off of half back.

Cool your jets lads, we're a round in.

Lets see how he backs it up.

Don't think anyone is jumping in yet, this week a good test.

I jumped in

Who did you trade?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Southstorm on March 28, 2018, 07:18:05 PM
Pittard still 3 or 4 weeks away according to the AFL website, will probably require a hitout in the SANFL before he makes a return. I think Bonner is pretty safe for the next month, would just need a pretty meteoric price rise in that time for it to be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Dudge on March 28, 2018, 07:34:36 PM
2 games iv'e watched, small sample size lol, one against Crows JLT, and the Freo game. Don't know really speaking, but geez he looked ok. Agree with most, he's a wait and see i think, and we'll see against Sydney, but i'm confident he'll hold his own.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Miss Pies on March 29, 2018, 08:39:04 AM
I loved everything about Bonner when I checked him out on video and stats. It cost me a bit extra in the beginning but very glad I chose him in my initial team. As for JS when Pittard gets back, I'm not too concerned about that. If ya don't have him I wouldn't jump on him just yet, see how he fairs against Sydney first. If he can manage a decent score from that game (lots of class players in Swans) then he's worth getting in - in my opinion
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: LordSneeze on March 29, 2018, 09:30:34 AM
We already knew Bonner had the ability to score well, the ? over him is whether he has the JS and consistency. Add in Pittards return and there are a few questions.

The first game is less important than the 2nd as it is only in the rolling average for 1 week compared to the 2nd week that is in 2.

Look at it this way.
What is your minimum that you would be willing to hold him?
How confident are you he will be able to maintain that average?
What price would he get to if he scores just under that?
How much cash do you believe the player you are trading out will make?
Is that difference in Cash gain and probability of becoming a keeper worth 2 trades?

If you don't believe he will average enough to be a keeper for D6 and won't make enough $ to be worth 2 trades then don't get him. Chasing points doesn't work unless the benefit is there longer term to do so.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on March 29, 2018, 09:54:50 AM
We already knew Bonner had the ability to score well, the ? over him is whether he has the JS and consistency. Add in Pittards return and there are a few questions.

The first game is less important than the 2nd as it is only in the rolling average for 1 week compared to the 2nd week that is in 2.

Look at it this way.
What is your minimum that you would be willing to hold him?
How confident are you he will be able to maintain that average?
What price would he get to if he scores just under that?
How much cash do you believe the player you are trading out will make?
Is that difference in Cash gain and probability of becoming a keeper worth 2 trades?

If you don't believe he will average enough to be a keeper for D6 and won't make enough $ to be worth 2 trades then don't get him. Chasing points doesn't work unless the benefit is there longer term to do so.
1. 80+ would be enough to hold to his bye, 70+ would be enough to make decent enough cash to be a stepping stone.
2. Reasonably confident he should get at least 70.
3. A 65 average from here should see him still rise 70k.
4. I've started him ;D, but if it were Naughton like it seems most are considering, I would say a 50-60 average would be reasonable (Roughly 90k cash rise by his bye).
5. Probably not.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: eaglesman on March 29, 2018, 09:12:32 PM
Wouldn't be wasting a trade for him now 1 round in.

Scored well against an unaccountable side and to be fair, played a good role for Supercoach.

Will probably only have a few more weeks in his current role before Pittard takes over from him.

Will need another good score next week to convince me he can make around 150-200k or so and be a good stepping stone.

Certainly don't think he'll be a keeper or in the top 10 defenders at season end once Pittard comes back and takes back that primary rebound role off of half back.

Cool your jets lads, we're a round in.

Lets see how he backs it up.

Don't think anyone is jumping in yet, this week a good test.

I jumped in

Who did you trade?

Naughton .... no brainer imo
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: enzedder on March 29, 2018, 09:48:40 PM
Wouldn't be wasting a trade for him now 1 round in.

Scored well against an unaccountable side and to be fair, played a good role for Supercoach.

Will probably only have a few more weeks in his current role before Pittard takes over from him.

Will need another good score next week to convince me he can make around 150-200k or so and be a good stepping stone.

Certainly don't think he'll be a keeper or in the top 10 defenders at season end once Pittard comes back and takes back that primary rebound role off of half back.

Cool your jets lads, we're a round in.

Lets see how he backs it up.

Don't think anyone is jumping in yet, this week a good test.

I jumped in

Who did you trade?

Naughton .... no brainer imo
I will be jumping too.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: _wato on March 29, 2018, 10:19:04 PM
Flower it, I'm also jumping on. MCrouch down so started the year like trash.

Gonna have to trade myself out of this now.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: WizzFizz on April 02, 2018, 03:52:50 PM
still worth getting?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: HoleMeal on April 02, 2018, 04:29:32 PM
still worth getting?
um, yes  ;D
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on April 02, 2018, 04:30:09 PM
still worth getting?
um, yes  ;D
Yep. Great D4, means you can have Murray on the pine.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: GoLions on April 04, 2018, 10:07:42 PM
Ball won't be in Port's defence most of the game so I'd stay away tbh
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on April 05, 2018, 10:15:03 AM
Ball won't be in Port's defence most of the game so I'd stay away tbh
Haha, yeah that's true.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: zoomba23 on April 05, 2018, 10:36:37 AM
Ball won't be in Port's defence most of the game so I'd stay away tbh
Unless they end up by 100 and just start having a kick to kick in the backline in the last quarter. Love it when that happens.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Huttabito on April 05, 2018, 10:43:47 AM
Ball won't be in Port's defence most of the game so I'd stay away tbh
Much like the game against us in Rd1 and he pulls out a 119.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: duffercoat on April 05, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Ball won't be in Port's defence most of the game so I'd stay away tbh
Much like the game against us in Rd1 and he pulls out a 119.

He scored 45 or something from the first quarter against freo though when the ball was mostly in Port's defensive half.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Brikett on April 05, 2018, 12:59:14 PM
Still not sure the trade would be worth it.

Only thought I'd entertain is Naughton to Bonner, but even then I can't see the risk paying off.

Also keep in mind that 120 will be there for one week.

What happens if he goes around the same as last week?

All of a sudden you're sitting on a 300k midpricer with two 70s in his rolling average, with Pittard to come back and most likely take over that main rebounding role in 2-3 weeks or so.

If you started him then well done, I don't think I'll be tempted though.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: elephants on April 05, 2018, 01:27:35 PM
If I didn't have him and I didn't have other major issues I'd certainly be chasing him. Looks really good in defence
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: jvalles69 on April 05, 2018, 05:41:04 PM
If I didn't have him and I didn't have other major issues I'd certainly be chasing him. Looks really good in defence

It's a trap.  :P
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: sammy123 on April 05, 2018, 07:52:33 PM
If i didnt have crouch injured woulda brought him in hoping he doesnt kill it too much
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: dicko_ on April 05, 2018, 09:31:33 PM
How would you guys rate Bonner compared to bringing in Murphy? I'm trading out Byrne and have the cash to get Bonner, but that would mean putting Murray on the bench which seems like a bit of a waste. I suppose Bonner is unlikely to be dropped immediately, but also may not replicate that round 1 score again meaning his cash generation might be limited.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Goosey on April 05, 2018, 09:35:17 PM
How would you guys rate Bonner compared to bringing in Murphy? I'm trading out Byrne and have the cash to get Bonner, but that would mean putting Murray on the bench which seems like a bit of a waste. I suppose Bonner is unlikely to be dropped immediately, but also may not replicate that round 1 score again meaning his cash generation might be limited.
As a mature priced rookie, I dont think his cash generation was ever going to be massive compared to a basement rookie but his JS looks good and he will score well and grow in price over the duration.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: sidvicious on April 07, 2018, 05:33:27 PM
If I didn't have him and I didn't have other major issues I'd certainly be chasing him. Looks really good in defence

It's a trap.  :P
I think u were right
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Hedonismbot on April 07, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
If I didn't have him and I didn't have other major issues I'd certainly be chasing him. Looks really good in defence

It's a trap.  :P
I think u were right
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Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 15, 2018, 04:25:53 PM
I know we paid for the JS which allowed us to go thin down back, but his scores after Round 1 have been poor and he is starting to become a bit of a liability

Won't be able to upgrade him yet as I have bigger fish to fry, but his scoring is giving me the showers
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: elephants on April 15, 2018, 06:04:30 PM
Took him and Mitchell C over Naughton's 78 and Dustys VC.

Just another chapter in me ruining my great starting team
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on April 15, 2018, 06:16:58 PM
Took him and Mitchell C over Naughton's 78 and Dustys VC.

Just another chapter in me ruining my great starting team
Geez, greedy :P

140 should be enough to take id say hahaa
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: elephants on April 15, 2018, 06:31:32 PM
Took him and Mitchell C over Naughton's 78 and Dustys VC.

Just another chapter in me ruining my great starting team
Geez, greedy :P

140 should be enough to take id say hahaa

Greedy, more lazy haha. Was worried that Bonner could go large as a rebounder on a quick Etihad track and esp after seeing Wilson/Ryan raaack against the Bombers haha

But yeah very silly
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Torpedo10 on April 15, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
Took him and Mitchell C over Naughton's 78 and Dustys VC.

Just another chapter in me ruining my great starting team
Geez, greedy :P

140 should be enough to take id say hahaa

Greedy, more lazy haha. Was worried that Bonner could go large as a rebounder on a quick Etihad track and esp after seeing Wilson/Ryan raaack against the Bombers haha

But yeah very silly
Weren't you sitting like 14th?

Talk about wasting your luck, ele!  :'(
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: tommy10 on April 15, 2018, 08:09:28 PM
Gone for me
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on April 15, 2018, 08:11:09 PM
Depends on his BE for me. If its low enough, would like to make him Mirra or a prem next week.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Gigantor on April 15, 2018, 08:22:33 PM
Depends on his BE for me. If its low enough, would like to make him Mirra or a prem next week.

Reckon his BE will be around 60, so could probably hold another week without losing any cash
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Bluesalltheway on April 15, 2018, 08:26:04 PM
I'll probably turn him into Coffield
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Judd Magic on April 16, 2018, 04:12:45 AM
I'll probably turn him into Coffield
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: bkimm32 on April 16, 2018, 06:48:33 AM
Yep I need cofield in as well and he's in line to go first out of all my back rooks
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Judd Magic on April 16, 2018, 10:42:26 PM
I'll probably turn him into Coffield
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 16, 2018, 11:23:19 PM
When I eventually get to be in a position where I can trade Bonner, it will definitely be up and not down

Bonner to Yeo, possibly even next week or the week after looks likely for me
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: quinny88 on April 16, 2018, 11:50:28 PM
Biggest waste of a trade bringing this guy in for Naughton after round 2. Oh well, at least he's easy to turn into a premo now
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Goosey on April 17, 2018, 05:43:29 AM
Yep, I want to trade him too. I have Laird, Simpson & Savage and not sure who to take, no major standouts? Hurley, Hurn, Yeo? Thinking that Hurley looks fairly consistent.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: enzedder on April 17, 2018, 06:19:33 AM
Biggest waste of a trade bringing this guy in for Naughton after round 2.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on April 17, 2018, 08:38:21 AM
Started with him, so I can't really complain with the cash he's made.

Aiming to next week go:

Naughton --> Mirra
Bonner --> Yeo/Simpson

But will depend on what all those guys score, might not have the funds.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: frenzy on April 17, 2018, 08:41:45 AM
I'll probably turn him into Coffield Yeo
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Jroo on April 17, 2018, 10:05:13 AM
Biggest waste of a trade bringing this guy in for Naughton after round 2. Oh well, at least he's easy to turn into a premo now
I traded Christo to him, not looking good now lol
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: barlowlove on April 17, 2018, 10:12:39 AM
I started him, so can't complain as it helped my structure and allows an early upgrade
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Ringo on April 17, 2018, 03:10:51 PM
Will Bonner be the one dropped for Jasper Pittard who is rumoured to return this week to add to the debate.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: jvalles69 on April 17, 2018, 03:18:08 PM
Bonner to Cofield this week I think.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: SilverLion on April 17, 2018, 03:27:55 PM
Will Bonner be the one dropped for Jasper Pittard who is rumoured to return this week to add to the debate.
Houston or McKenzie I'd've thought.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: jfitty on April 17, 2018, 05:04:00 PM
Will Bonner be the one dropped for Jasper Pittard who is rumoured to return this week to add to the debate.

Pittard did really well in the SANFL on the weekend so he should definitely be back this week.

Don't think it'll be for Bonner, but I'm leaning towards trading regardless.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: waldorfs wizards on April 17, 2018, 05:17:43 PM
Will Bonner be the one dropped for Jasper Pittard who is rumoured to return this week to add to the debate.

Pittard did really well in the SANFL on the weekend so he should definitely be back this week.

Don't think it'll be for Bonner, but I'm leaning towards trading regardless.

Does anyone think that there is a chance it might help Bonner at all? I think teams now how damaging Pittard can be and would more likely send a defensive forward to him rather than Bonner?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Dudge on April 17, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
If i was to do a Bonner trade, be more likely to Coffield. Give's me a little bank. At the moment got other issues that need fixing.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on April 17, 2018, 09:10:33 PM
Will Bonner be the one dropped for Jasper Pittard who is rumoured to return this week to add to the debate.

Pittard did really well in the SANFL on the weekend so he should definitely be back this week.

Don't think it'll be for Bonner, but I'm leaning towards trading regardless.

Does anyone think that there is a chance it might help Bonner at all? I think teams now how damaging Pittard can be and would more likely send a defensive forward to him rather than Bonner?
I personally dont think pittard hurts Bonner, dont know if it helps him with
DBJ moved forward last week, which should mean theres room for both down back
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: elephants on April 18, 2018, 02:35:32 AM
Will Bonner be the one dropped for Jasper Pittard who is rumoured to return this week to add to the debate.

Pittard did really well in the SANFL on the weekend so he should definitely be back this week.

Don't think it'll be for Bonner, but I'm leaning towards trading regardless.

Does anyone think that there is a chance it might help Bonner at all? I think teams now how damaging Pittard can be and would more likely send a defensive forward to him rather than Bonner?

Tbh I think Bonner is more damaging with his disposal than Pittard haha
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Ingram on April 18, 2018, 04:09:06 AM
I'm riding the Bonnor train a little further whilst this week adding Grundy and Gray to my line up.

Hurts passing on Coffeild but oh well.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Miss Pies on April 18, 2018, 06:30:51 PM
I'm riding the Bonnor train a little further whilst this week adding Grundy and Gray to my line up.

Hurts passing on Coffeild but oh well.

I'm passing on Coffield as well and probably pick up Mirra next week
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Dudge on April 18, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
I'll probably get Coffied, but Ryan ( wce ) is the one that goes for him
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: batt on April 27, 2018, 12:26:30 PM
Not much talk about the implications of Hartlett going down?  Obviously Pittard still to come back but it feels like there's still hope for another $100k of grazing out of Bonner.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Ringo on April 27, 2018, 12:51:50 PM
Not much talk about the implications of Hartlett going down?  Obviously Pittard still to come back but it feels like there's still hope for another $100k of grazing out of Bonner.
Mentioned it in some other posts and if I had Bonner would not be trading yet.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: oh_lol on April 27, 2018, 05:08:18 PM
Are you guys expecting Bonner to score better without Pittard and Harlett?
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: iZander on April 27, 2018, 10:45:38 PM
Are you guys expecting Bonner to score better without Pittard and Harlett?
100 minimum :D
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 05, 2018, 06:55:23 PM
Worst.Pick.Ever

I don't care if I have to cop a donut elsewhere this guy is 100% out this week
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: jfitty on May 05, 2018, 06:55:59 PM
Should have traded him out by now really
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 05, 2018, 06:57:24 PM
Should have traded him out by now really

Been on top of the list for the past 2 weeks but I've kept copping injuries so he's survived

Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Gigantor on May 05, 2018, 07:15:49 PM
Got a 50 near the end just to twist the knife
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: Nige on May 05, 2018, 08:34:12 PM
Put him on my bench last week and then booted him for Howe this week, very happy now.
Title: Re: Riley Bonner
Post by: MagpieManic on May 06, 2018, 09:14:39 PM
Should have traded him out by now really

Been on top of the list for the past 2 weeks but I've kept copping injuries so he's survived

I traded him for Sicily this week  8)