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Title: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on October 23, 2018, 02:37:11 PM
Starting the thread because BBL SuperCoach opened this morning.

LINKS

SC - https://supercoach.heraldsun.com.au/bbl/classic
Official - RIP you incompetent flowerers


LEAGUES & GROUP CODES

SuperCoach

Fanfooty #1 - 945834 - FULL
Fanfooty #2 - 185926 - 1/14

Official

RIP you incompetent flowerers
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on October 23, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
Quick update on where rosters are at with the Stars signing of Sandeep Lamichhane this morning.

Strikers
Spots remaining: 2
Unsigned: Travis Head, Jono Dean, Daniel Drew
New: Matt Short (Renegades)
Out:

Internationals: Rashid Khan (Afghanistan), Colin Ingram (South Africa)

Heat
Spots remaining: 1
Unsigned: Cameron Gannon, Jason Floros, Cameron Valente
New: James Pattison (Renegades), Jack Prestwidge, Mujeeb Ur Rahman (Afghanistan)
Out: Shadab Khan

Internationals: Brendan McCullum (New Zealand), Mujeeb Ur Rahman (Afghanistan)

Hurricanes
Spots remaining: 3
Unsigned: James Bazley, Tom Curran, Hamish Kingston, Jake Reed, Sam Rainbird, Nathan Reardon, Aaron Summers
New: James Faulkner (Stars), Johan Botha (Sixers), Caleb Jewell, Riley Meredith, Jake Doran
Out: Cameron Boyce (Renegades), Dan Christian (Renegades)

Internationals: Jofra Archer (England/West Indies), Tymal Mills (England)

Renegades
Spots remaining: 3 (2 INT)
Unsigned: Brad Hogg, Jon Holland, Dwayne Bravo, Mohammad Nabi
New: Cameron Boyce (Hurricanes), Dan Christian (Hurricanes), Zak Evans, Mackenzie Harvey
Out: James Pattison (Heat), Matt Short (Strikers), Brad Hodge (retired)

Internationals: TBA

Stars
Spots remaining: 6 (1 INT)
Unsigned: Evan Gulbis, Peter Handscomb, Sam Harper, Ben Hilfenhaus, Rob Quiney
New: Nic Maddinson (Sixers), Travis Dean, Sandeep Lamichhane (Nepal)
Out: James Faulkner (Hurricanes), John Hastings (Sixers), Kevin Pietersen, Luke Wright

Internationals: Sandeep Lamichhane (Nepal), TBA

Scorchers
Spots remaining: 1
Unsigned: N/A
New: Usman Qadir (Pakistan)
Out: Mitch Johnson, Adam Voges (retired)

Internationals: David Willey (England), Usman Qadir (Pakistan)

Sixers
Spots remaining: 9 (1 INT)
Unsigned: Jackson Bird, Harry Conway, Ben Dwarshuis, Mickey Edwards, Jordan Silk, Mitch Starc, Jason Roy, Sam Billings
New: Joe Denly (England), John Hastings (Stars)
Out: Nic Maddison (Stars), Johan Botha (Hurricanes), Daniel Sams (Thunder)

Internationals: Joe Denly (England), TBC

Thunder
Spots remaining: 6
Unsigned: Andrew Fekete, Liam Hatcher, Clint McKay, Arjun Nair, Ben Rohrer, Gurinder Sandhu
New: Daniel Sams (Sixers), Joe Root (England)
Out: Mitch McClenaghan, Aiden Blizzard (retired)

Internationals: Joe Root (England), Jos Buttler (England)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on October 23, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
945834 - Fanfooty #1 (SC)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Gigantor on October 23, 2018, 03:35:39 PM
945834 - Fanfooty #1 (SC)

Spinach is in :)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Skyarm on October 24, 2018, 01:08:58 PM
Only did the official one last year how is the Supercoach one different?
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on October 25, 2018, 06:39:12 AM
Only did the official one last year how is the Supercoach one different?
Not sure how the official one worked but the SC has $25000 first prize plus weekly $1000 prizes , $2000000 salary cap 16 players picked 5 of  which are emergencies 36 trades
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: crowls on October 25, 2018, 08:09:29 AM
what is the best strategy when picking your team.     gnr?
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Gigantor on October 25, 2018, 02:23:29 PM
what is the best strategy when picking your team.     gnr?
Opening batsmen who bowl a bit :)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on October 25, 2018, 04:37:54 PM
Only did the official one last year how is the Supercoach one different?

Assuming there are no changes this year for Official.

Wickets

20 points in official, 25 in SuperCoach

SR Bonus
Official is as follows

Strike Rate of 150+: 20 points
140-149.99 : 16 points
Strike Rate of 130-139.99 : 12 points
120-129.99 : 8 points
(must score 20+ runs for SR bonus)

SuperCoach: For every run a player scores above the amount of balls faced: 1 point (eg: if a player scores 40 of 26 balls, they score an additional 14 points)

Other batting bonuses 

Official
Bonus for scoring 75+ Runs : 10 Points
Bonus for scoring 100+ Runs : 20 Points

SC
Bonus for every 6 hit: 2 points
Bonus for every 4 hit: 1 point

Maidens
12 points in Official, 15 in Supercoach

Bowling ER bonuses

Official
5 or less r.p.o: 20 Points
5.01-6 r.p.o: 16 Points
6.01-7 r.p.o: 12 Points
7.01-8 r.p.o: 8 Points
must bowl at least 3 overs for ER bonus

SC
* 4 or less RPO: 25 points
* 4.01-5 RPO: 20 points
* 5.01-6 RPO: 15 points
* 6.01-7 RPO: 10 points
* 7.01-8 RPO: 5 points
Note: Must bowl at least 2 overs for ER bonus

Bowling Misc

Official
N/A

Supercoach
Bonus for 3 wickets in one match: 10 points
Extra conceded (includes wides and no balls): -1 point

Fielding

Catch: 10 points in SC, 12 in official
Run Out: 20 points in SC, 15 in official



Points for Runs, Dot Balls & Stumpings are the same across the 2 competitions (1, 1 & 15 respectively)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on October 25, 2018, 04:56:46 PM
what is the best strategy when picking your team.     gnr?

Don't particularly want pure batsmen who are outside the top 4 in their sides. Just to give you an idea of who this will likely be to open the tournament.

Strikers: Carey, Weatherald, Ingram, Wells
Heat: McCullum, Heazlett, Lynn, Burns
Hurricanes: Wade, ? (maybe Doolan, maybe Jewell, maybe who knows), McDermott, Bailey
Stars: Dunk, Stoinis? (could opt for Dean), Maddinson, Maxwell
Renegades: Harris, Ludeman, White, Cooper/DC
Scorchers: Klinger, Inglis?, Cartwright, Turner (assuming both Marsh's on intl. duty)
Sixers: Denly, Hughes, Henriques, ?*
Thunder: Buttler, Patterson, Watson, Root

Sixers still have a lot of squad spots to fill, as do the Hurricanes, Stars & Thunder, so there's a few asteriks & guess work in there.

Guys like Bravo (if signed) & the Scorchers AR's (& potentially Stoinis) provide great value because they both bowl & bat inside the top 4, that's what you're looking for. Guys like Denly, Ingram, Burns etc. are also known to occasionally roll the arm over from time to time.

When it comes to other bowlers, guys who bat slightly higher are handy because they can occasionally pick up the odd 15-20 score (Rashid Khan, Nair, Cutting) etc. but it's still mainly about the wickets.

Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on October 25, 2018, 06:20:30 PM
945834 - Fanfooty #1 (SC)
Shanes Shakers is in
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Gigantor on October 25, 2018, 07:51:57 PM
After looking at the bye/DG split I'm thinking they aren't going to be as big a deal this year
The 5 game rounds really smooth the fixture out
Five of the rounds have no byes and rd 11 has 3 DG teams and only one bye team!
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 29, 2018, 02:18:33 PM
Ringos All Stars Joined
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Money on November 25, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
Looking like there’s going to be no “Official” this year, only Supercoach?
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 28, 2018, 11:35:16 PM
Looking like there’s going to be no “Official” this year, only Supercoach?
They’ve confirmed on Twitter that it will be going ahead and details are coming out soon
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on November 29, 2018, 06:42:25 PM
gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 30, 2018, 09:08:51 AM
gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o
I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on November 30, 2018, 09:31:33 AM
gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o
I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.
Are there prizes in the official one ?
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 04, 2018, 05:30:46 PM
gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o
I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.

Has usually been mid-November. Currently we've got about 2 weeks left & still nothing.  :o
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 05, 2018, 08:44:12 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PK2BsMeSoInHjntRpexjYt6DkjzLPO0fyguQPQKOAlQ/edit?usp=sharing

Nige & I have done our predicted best XI's for the upcoming season. PB may do so too if he has the time. You can also find the updated squads in that spreadsheet as well.


Some notes from my end

Adelaide - Head will miss with AU commitments, everyone should slide up a spot & likely Matt Short will come in at 6.

Brisbane - N/A

Hurricanes - Paine will miss with AU commitments. Expect Wade to open alongside Short & Doran (at present) to come in down the order. The Canes did also use Milenko as a straight bat last season so that is also possible.

Renegades - Who opens alongside Ludeman with both openers gone with AU commitments? Money is on Bear but it leaves a weakened batting lineup behind it. Expect lesser lights such as Harvey, Webster & Sutherland to play some part as the season starts. Tremain should also miss with AU commitments but they're well stocked in that regard. Boyce will come in if they want 2 spinners, Mennie if they want a seamer.

Stars - Handscomb will miss with AU duties so expect Dunk to take the gloves. The Stars are in a good spot when it comes to flexibility, as Handscomb's replacement could be anyone from Worrall (Gotch going up to 6), Dean (Stoinis going down to 6 & Dean opening) to even Evan Gulbis. Hard to make a call there.

Scorchers - Absolutely stacked squad. Both Marsh brothers should miss & their lineup could be one of a number of options. Based on what happened last season it'll be either Whiteman or Willey opening with Klinger, with the other being somewhere in the 6-8 region. Bancroft will come straight back into #3 on his return (Dec 30th). The fact that Paris & Matt Kelly don't make this XI is bonkers. Qadir will also be handy for pitches such as Etihad.

Sixers - Lyon replaced by likely Pope. Also feel the Sixers batting depth is a touch weak, so I'd expect a Jordan Silk re-signing in the next few days to bat 5 ahead of Edwards.

Thunder - Cummins & Khawaja will miss with the test team. Patterson will open alongisde Watson with Ryan Gibson the likely replacement at 6. Although Sangha may be a shout if Watto has had enough of Green being a flat out meme. Ahmed will come in for Cummins, with everyone shifting one spot up the order with Ahmed at 11.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 05, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
I echo a lot of what Coop said and I'll probably go into more details in the coming days with my own thoughts so stay tuned.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 07, 2018, 04:31:34 PM
Just started to consider the draw and Scorchers and Heat have the double in Rd 1. Lynn C probably a certainty for me.

My team as it stands at the moment.  Reserves may change though to balance.

(https://i.gyazo.com/5bed1e4471119cab7809532a006527f1.png)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Gigantor on December 07, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PK2BsMeSoInHjntRpexjYt6DkjzLPO0fyguQPQKOAlQ/edit?usp=sharing

Nige & I have done our predicted best XI's for the upcoming season. PB may do so too if he has the time. You can also find the updated squads in that spreadsheet as well.


Scorchers - Absolutely stacked squad. Both Marsh brothers should miss & their lineup could be one of a number of options. Based on what happened last season it'll be either Whiteman or Willey opening with Klinger, with the other being somewhere in the 6-8 region. Bancroft will come straight back into #3 on his return (Dec 30th). The fact that Paris & Matt Kelly don't make this XI is bonkers. Qadir will also be handy for pitches such as Etihad.



Scorchers are really tough to pick, feel like one of Tye, NCN, Dorf and Richardson could miss with Willey and MMarsh in the team, which is crazy considering they've all played for the national side. On paper it should be Richo but they really like his pace.

Feel like Qadir won't get many chances if Agar is available. Turner has started to bowl so he is the 2nd spin option

Whiteman is really out of favour so I think Inglis will keep until Bancroft returns

Will be one top line batsman short for the two games before Bancroft is back (Assuming Smarsh stays in the Aus XI :) )

My stab and a game 1 XI is below:

Michael    KLINGER
David    WILLEY
Hilton   CARTWRIGHT
Mitch    MARSH
Ashton    TURNER
Ashton    AGAR
Nathan   COULTER-NILE
Josh         INGLIS (wk)
Jhye          RICHARDSON
Andrew    TYE
Jason   BEHRENDORFF

Ridiculous bowling fire power, 6 Front liners plus Marsh and Turner (Cartwright bowled 1 over last season so he doesn't count)
Agar at 6 might seem a bit weak but there isn't another batsman available. Will look so much stronger come the 3rd game when Bancroft replaces Inglis

Would love to see Voges throw NCN in as an opener like the Gades did with Narine.

Best XI would be:

Michael    KLINGER
Shaun    MARSH
Hilton   CARTWRIGHT
Mitch    MARSH
Ashton    TURNER
Cameron    BANCROFT(wk)
David    WILLEY
Ashton    AGAR
Nathan   COULTER-NILE
Andrew    TYE
Jason   BEHRENDORFF

Klinger/Cartwright out for Richardson if they wanted more bowling firepower.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 09, 2018, 07:15:39 PM
Maddog got his arm broken by Jhye today so rip the messiah.

Means that one of Travis Dean or Jonathan Merlo probably comes in, maybe Evan Gulbis.

Dean's obviously a specialist batsman, whereas Merlo is an allrounder who can bowl pace.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Chelskiman on December 15, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
League is full. :(
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 15, 2018, 04:52:32 PM
gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o
I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.

Has usually been mid-November. Currently we've got about 2 weeks left & still nothing.  :o

RIP Official.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Chelskiman on December 16, 2018, 02:04:25 PM
First crack.  What do you guys think?  Good, bad, hit the reset button?

(http://i63.tinypic.com/ofx7ir.png)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 16, 2018, 03:27:05 PM
League is full. :(

Fanfooty #2 - 185926

Added to the OP. :)



So it's official, RIP official BBL fantasy, looks like they've transitioned to a DraftStars/Moneyball format. Such a flowering shame. Had a fantastic layout, a booming playerbase and an actual decent mobile app. SuperCoach it is I guess. :(

Better start looking at my team  :P
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 16, 2018, 06:54:08 PM
Really struggling to build a team that I'm 100% happy with here. But this is what I have so far, with reasoning.

BAT1 - D'Arcy Short  - Very nearly went Bravo here as he's a personal favourite of mine, and one I've started every season possible with, but Short has to be picked, although purely as a defensive option. Was completely found out in the IPL by spin, but his domestic form speaks for itself. Has the capacity to burn me much more than Bravo does, so is here solely for that alone.

BAT2 - David Willey - Opening bowler for the Scorchers who is also a potential opening bat for them as well. Logical, safe choice.

BAT3 - Jofra Archer - Picks himself. 4 T20 MATCHES without a wicket in 2018 speaks for itself really.

BAT4 - Brendan McCullum - Hasn't been in brilliant form in 2018 and probably wouldn't have picked him if not for the DGW first up. Only 3 50's in a year of T20 competitions and likely becomes Wade or a Strikers bowler via DPP for GW2 & onward. Keeps my streak of starting with him every year too.

BAT5 - Colin Ingram - Adelaide bias shining through, but will bat first drop for the Strikers in Head's absence. Can bowl a bit & performed absolutely sublimely in England over their summer once again. Very obviously prefers slow & low wickets from both his BBL & English records, and where are two of his first 3 games? Metricon & Etihad. Has the DGW in Rd 2 so more than willing to punt that he does well against the Heat's shower bowling attack in Round 1.

WKP1 - Jos Buttler - Tried so hard to justify saving money here with an initial Wade pick, but I don't think you can ignore his 2018 form. Absolutely tore the last half of the IPL season to shreds, scoring 67, 51, 82, 95, 94 & 39 in his last 6 innings of the tournament. Been fantastic at international level too, having 2 centuries & a further 4 50+ scores so far in 2018.

BWL1 - Rashid Khan - Picks himself. Tore it up last year, tore up the IPL with 21 wickets at a 6.7 ER, took 10 in 4 games against Bangladesh and 7 in 2 against Ireland. Absolute no-brainer.

BWL2 - Andrew Tye - Gotta pick the guy who topped both the IPL (24 wickets at an 8 ER & 14 SR) and JLT OD (18  wickets in 6 games), don't you? White ball royalty at this point.

BWL3 - Jason Behrendorff - Remember this guy? He's finally fit again! Despite the fact that SC jacked up both his & NCN's prices despite their absence, I still think he's worth picking. Although you can't go wrong with either & NCN does bat higher....

BWL4 - Usman Khan Shinwari - This guy is going to cause A LOT of problems for batsman this summer, right-handers especially. Left-arm quick who gets movement & seam through the air not seen since probably Wasim. Took the 3rd fastest 5fa in ODI history (21 balls) against Sri Lanka. Like Mujeeb though, can't really bat. So expect him at 10 or 11.

BWL5 - Mujeeb Ur Rahman - The new Rashid. He's young, Afghani, and has been extremely economical to date. Had tidy figures in both the IPL & Vitality T20 blast. Probably doesn't possess the same tricks as Rashid, but will be very handy for the Heat nonetheless.




BAT6 - Max Bryant  -  Bryant is a stand and slog kinda operator, but they could favour him over Heazlett at the top given that's the dynamic of the Heat's top order, and has been for quite a few years. If Heazlett opens again, I'll probably work some magic to get him instead.

BAT7 - Jack Edwards - Have an inkling he may get games for the Sixers. Flexible spot for anyone who pops up late like Sams from last year.

WKP2 - Josh Philippe - Should bat in the top 4 for the Sixers. Won't take the gloves with Nevill in the team, but for 42k a top 4 bat is all you really want.

BWL6 - James Pattinson - LOCK - and should be fairly obvious why. Cheap, first choice seamer for the Heat, and should bat at 8. Bargain.

BWL7 - Sandeep Lamichhane - First choice spinner for the Stars. Haven't seen enough exposed form against quality opposition to start him with any confidence, but at 62k there are FAR worse bench options going around.



OTHER OPTIONS

Dwayne Bravo -  Man.... I'm absolutely gutted I can't find room for him. Has become more of a bowler as his career has progressed into the twilight, but he can do both at ease with amazing quality. :'(

I've got the feeling that this is the breakout summer for Daniel Sams after what he produced in the JLT. Doesn't start due to other options, but is a very handy POD and will come into heavy consideration after the first few GW's. Arjun Nair likewise. 

Shane Watson is continuing to do Shane Watson things. Solid option again who shouldn't do you wrong.

Travis Dean could be a bargain buy if he opens alongside Ben Dunk, who surely can't have as bad of a season as he did last year?

Billy Stanlake is also doing Billy Stanlake things, could start for me, but will definitely be in there come GW2. Splitting hairs between him & Ben Laughlin, who will probably also feature for me in GW2. Both had extremely solid IPL campaigns.

Matthew Wade is ridiculously close to starting for me. Will open for the Hurricanes alongside Short & is in fantastic Shield touch. Would save some much-needed cash as well so he is one I'm mulling over. Has the DGW in GW3.

Scott Boland is taking wickets for fun in the Shield, and could be a very interesting POD selection.

Joe Denly is in good touch with both bat & ball and had a really good backend to the summer last time out. Very likely to come in GW2 in preperation for GW3. Will 100% open for the Sixers.

Seems like I say this every year but Daniel Hughes is in fantastic nick in the Shield. Not sure I can do that again though with his strike rate.

Chris Lynn is still extremely suspect to spin, and with Rashid first up, I can't do it. One of those ones that has the potential to completely burn me however.

Joe Burns is in fantastic shield nick, and going Short to Bravo & Baz to Burns is an option I am considering. Would be in if I had one more spot.

Plenty more besides that, Cameron White will be solid as always. Jono Wells is an attractive bench option if he bats inside the top 4 in Head's absence. Hilton Cartwright is always an option batting in the top 4 despite his form. Alex Carey is Alex Carey.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on December 17, 2018, 06:02:51 PM
League is full. :(

Fanfooty #2 - 185926

Added to the OP. :)



So it's official, RIP official BBL fantasy, looks like they've transitioned to a DraftStars/Moneyball format. Such a flowering shame. Had a fantastic layout, a booming playerbase and an actual decent mobile app. SuperCoach it is I guess. :(

Better start looking at my team  :P
Far out that sucks. Time to register for supercoach I guess.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Skyarm on December 17, 2018, 07:16:34 PM

OTHER OPTIONS

Dwayne Bravo -  Man.... I'm absolutely gutted I can't find room for him. Has become more of a bowler as his career has progressed into the twilight, but he can do both at ease with amazing quality. :'(

I've got the feeling that this is the breakout summer for Daniel Sams after what he produced in the JLT. Doesn't start due to other options, but is a very handy POD and will come into heavy consideration after the first few GW's. Arjun Nair likewise. 

Shane Watson is continuing to do Shane Watson things. Solid option again who shouldn't do you wrong.

Travis Dean could be a bargain buy if he opens alongside Ben Dunk, who surely can't have as bad of a season as he did last year?

Billy Stanlake is also doing Billy Stanlake things, could start for me, but will definitely be in there come GW2. Splitting hairs between him & Ben Laughlin, who will probably also feature for me in GW2. Both had extremely solid IPL campaigns.

Matthew Wade is ridiculously close to starting for me. Will open for the Hurricanes alongside Short & is in fantastic Shield touch. Would save some much-needed cash as well so he is one I'm mulling over. Has the DGW in GW3.

Scott Boland is taking wickets for fun in the Shield, and could be a very interesting POD selection.

Joe Denly is in good touch with both bat & ball and had a really good backend to the summer last time out. Very likely to come in GW2 in preperation for GW3. Will 100% open for the Sixers.

Seems like I say this every year but Daniel Hughes is in fantastic nick in the Shield. Not sure I can do that again though with his strike rate.

Chris Lynn is still extremely suspect to spin, and with Rashid first up, I can't do it. One of those ones that has the potential to completely burn me however.

Joe Burns is in fantastic shield nick, and going Short to Bravo & Baz to Burns is an option I am considering. Would be in if I had one more spot.

Plenty more besides that, Cameron White will be solid as always. Jono Wells is an attractive bench option if he bats inside the top 4 in Head's absence. Hilton Cartwright is always an option batting in the top 4 despite his form. Alex Carey is Alex Carey.

Is there any reason that you haven't mentioned Klinger, MMarsh and Agar as I see them as very enticing options for the double game to start.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: teckert on December 17, 2018, 10:23:28 PM
DREAM11's media announcement re. taking over the official BBL fantasy comp:
https://www.insidesport.co/dream11-becomes-official-fantasy-game-partner-of-big-bash-league/

The site wont even let me register atm lol.... 
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Skyarm on December 18, 2018, 01:48:19 PM
Adelaide squad announced

https://www.adelaidestrikers.com.au/news/new-duo-named-for-bbl-opener/2018-12-18

Colin Ingram (c)
Alex Carey (wk)
Rashid Khan
Ben Laughlin
Jake Lehmann
Michael Neser
Liam O'Connor
Matthew Short
Peter Siddle
Billy Stanlake
Cameron Valente
Jake Weatherald
Jon Wells
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 18, 2018, 04:14:33 PM

OTHER OPTIONS

Dwayne Bravo -  Man.... I'm absolutely gutted I can't find room for him. Has become more of a bowler as his career has progressed into the twilight, but he can do both at ease with amazing quality. :'(

I've got the feeling that this is the breakout summer for Daniel Sams after what he produced in the JLT. Doesn't start due to other options, but is a very handy POD and will come into heavy consideration after the first few GW's. Arjun Nair likewise. 

Shane Watson is continuing to do Shane Watson things. Solid option again who shouldn't do you wrong.

Travis Dean could be a bargain buy if he opens alongside Ben Dunk, who surely can't have as bad of a season as he did last year?

Billy Stanlake is also doing Billy Stanlake things, could start for me, but will definitely be in there come GW2. Splitting hairs between him & Ben Laughlin, who will probably also feature for me in GW2. Both had extremely solid IPL campaigns.

Matthew Wade is ridiculously close to starting for me. Will open for the Hurricanes alongside Short & is in fantastic Shield touch. Would save some much-needed cash as well so he is one I'm mulling over. Has the DGW in GW3.

Scott Boland is taking wickets for fun in the Shield, and could be a very interesting POD selection.

Joe Denly is in good touch with both bat & ball and had a really good backend to the summer last time out. Very likely to come in GW2 in preperation for GW3. Will 100% open for the Sixers.

Seems like I say this every year but Daniel Hughes is in fantastic nick in the Shield. Not sure I can do that again though with his strike rate.

Chris Lynn is still extremely suspect to spin, and with Rashid first up, I can't do it. One of those ones that has the potential to completely burn me however.

Joe Burns is in fantastic shield nick, and going Short to Bravo & Baz to Burns is an option I am considering. Would be in if I had one more spot.

Plenty more besides that, Cameron White will be solid as always. Jono Wells is an attractive bench option if he bats inside the top 4 in Head's absence. Hilton Cartwright is always an option batting in the top 4 despite his form. Alex Carey is Alex Carey.

Is there any reason that you haven't mentioned Klinger, MMarsh and Agar as I see them as very enticing options for the double game to start.

All 3 are definitely opitions.  Agar is certainly one I had in my team for a period of time but just felt there were better options in the end. However if he DOES open, he's coming straight in, no questions asked. His form with the ball hasn't been fantastic though and that's why I ended up booting him. Because if he doesn't take a few poles & bats 7... ehhhhh..

Klinger was in great English form, but I'm always apprehensive of picking batsman who dont bowl at least occasionally (Baz is the only one I'm starting that fits that currently), because if they get out cheaply, they're screwed for the game. However, at that price, you certainly have to consider him, absolutely. Probably an oversight on my part there if I'm really honest.

I hate Mitch Marsh for reasons outside the Big Bash, don't mind me there. :P I also think there's better DGW options for the price. Certainly a POD though.




Adelaide squad announced

https://www.adelaidestrikers.com.au/news/new-duo-named-for-bbl-opener/2018-12-18

Colin Ingram (c)
Alex Carey (wk)
Rashid Khan
Ben Laughlin
Jake Lehmann
Michael Neser
Liam O'Connor
Matthew Short
Peter Siddle
Billy Stanlake
Cameron Valente
Jake Weatherald
Jon Wells

I'd assume LOC and one of Valente/Short will drop out of that. If Valente starts he has to be a lock for us surely. 42k who has the DGW in week 2
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 18, 2018, 04:24:13 PM
Short will play over Valente since they've already got Neser, Stanlake, Siddle and Laughlin in the team and they all bowl pace. Rashid is the frontline spinner but Short might chip with an over or two here or there and he's a better bat/allrounder than Valente.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: PowerBug on December 18, 2018, 04:35:09 PM
Adelaide squad announced

https://www.adelaidestrikers.com.au/news/new-duo-named-for-bbl-opener/2018-12-18

Colin Ingram (c)
Alex Carey (wk)
Rashid Khan
Ben Laughlin
Jake Lehmann
Michael Neser
Liam O'Connor
Matthew Short
Peter Siddle
Billy Stanlake
Cameron Valente
Jake Weatherald
Jon Wells

I'd assume LOC and one of Valente/Short will drop out of that. If Valente starts he has to be a lock for us surely. 42k who has the DGW in week 2

Jake Weatherald
Alex Carey (wk)
Jake Lehmann
Colin Ingram (c)
Jon Wells
Matthew Short
Michael Neser
Rashid Khan
Peter Siddle
Ben Laughlin
Billy Stanlake
 - - - -
Cameron Valente
Liam O'Connor

Will be the team in batting order I reckon ;)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 18, 2018, 09:35:29 PM
Adelaide squad announced

https://www.adelaidestrikers.com.au/news/new-duo-named-for-bbl-opener/2018-12-18

Colin Ingram (c)
Alex Carey (wk)
Rashid Khan
Ben Laughlin
Jake Lehmann
Michael Neser
Liam O'Connor
Matthew Short
Peter Siddle
Billy Stanlake
Cameron Valente
Jake Weatherald
Jon Wells

I'd assume LOC and one of Valente/Short will drop out of that. If Valente starts he has to be a lock for us surely. 42k who has the DGW in week 2

Jake Weatherald
Alex Carey (wk)
Jake Lehmann
Colin Ingram (c)
Jon Wells
Matthew Short
Michael Neser
Rashid Khan
Peter Siddle
Ben Laughlin
Billy Stanlake
 - - - -
Cameron Valente
Liam O'Connor

Will be the team in batting order I reckon ;)

I hadn't read the group chat at this point leave me alone!  :'(
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Skyarm on December 19, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
Scorchers 13 man squad of

MMarsh
Turner
Agar
Behrendorff
Cartwright
Coulter-Nile
Inglis
Kilnger
Qadir
Richardson
Tye
Whiteman
Willey

One of Whiteman/Inglis to miss and who else misses out?
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on December 19, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
Jeez you don't get much time to see who is actually playing what time do we find out ?
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Skyarm on December 19, 2018, 06:12:41 PM
Jeez you don't get much time to see who is actually playing what time do we find out ?

Heat just announced their XI https://twitter.com/HeatBBL/status/1075292523050950656
Strikers will be soon I assume

Edit: Yep https://twitter.com/StrikersBBL/status/1075293158496321536
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Gigantor on December 19, 2018, 06:23:29 PM
Scorchers 13 man squad of

MMarsh
Turner
Agar
Behrendorff
Cartwright
Coulter-Nile
Inglis
Kilnger
Qadir
Richardson
Tye
Whiteman
Willey

One of Whiteman/Inglis to miss and who else misses out?
If one of Whiteman/Inglis misses it will have to be a bowler.

I want to say Qadir plays and one of the quicks misses but who do you drop from NCN/Dorf/Richo/Tye???
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on December 19, 2018, 06:24:30 PM
Cheers Skyarm 1/2 an hour ha ha not like footy you are going to be on the ball to do good at this comp  ;D
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Money on December 19, 2018, 08:05:28 PM
So what’s a good score for players these days and with this new(ish) scoring formats? I remember when 50 points in Fantasy used to be massive but now blokes average upwards of 80. I still reckon a good score is around 60 odd
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Chelskiman on December 19, 2018, 08:26:11 PM
Good call on Mujeeb, Koop.  Got 27 with the bat which is very handy.  Hopefully can grab some wickets now.

@Money, Rashid Kahn is already on 105 and that could rise if he bats and gets runs.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 20, 2018, 01:46:24 PM
Sydney Thunder’s BBL 13-player squad:

Shane Watson (c)

Fawad Ahmed

Jos Buttler

Jono Cook

Callum Ferguson

Chris Green

Nathan McAndrew

Arjun Nair

Sam Rainbird

Joe Root

Daniel Sams

Gurinder Sandhu

Jason Sangha
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 20, 2018, 01:49:29 PM
I'd be lying if I said I knew much about Jono Cook, but he currently isn't available to be picked in BBL SuperCoach.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 20, 2018, 01:50:28 PM
and the Stars squad,

Stars BBL squad v Thunder
Glenn Maxwell (c)
Michael Beer
Scott Boland
Dwayne Bravo
Jackson Coleman
Travis Dean
Ben Dunk
Evan Gulbis
Sandeep Lamichhane
Nick Larkin
Lance Morris
Marcus Stoinis
Adam Zampa
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 20, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
Sydney Thunder’s BBL 13-player squad:

Shane Watson (c)

Fawad Ahmed

Jos Buttler

Jono Cook

Callum Ferguson

Chris Green

Nathan McAndrew

Arjun Nair

Sam Rainbird

Joe Root

Daniel Sams

Gurinder Sandhu

Jason Sangha

Wow. Not Patterson or Gibson make that squad VERY interesting.

Did a bit of a google. Cook is a legspinner from Sydney grade cricket who was the MVP last season. Seems to be a handy late order hitter too.

If I had to take a stab at the team.

Watson (c)
Buttler (wk)
Root
Ferguson
Sangha
Nair
Sams
Green
McAndrew/Rainbird
Sandhu
Ahmed

That's a long tail, and I'd actually suspect Nair MAY play as a specialist batsman, along with obviously Jason Sangha. Either way it's one too weak for my liking. I'd prefer Rainbird personally at 9 but McAndrew is actually close to an AR, so they may go for the extra batting prowess given the dynamic of that XI.

Apologies to those I said to that Sangha wouldn't be a first choice option.  :-[





and the Stars squad,

Stars BBL squad v Thunder
Glenn Maxwell (c)
Michael Beer
Scott Boland
Dwayne Bravo
Jackson Coleman
Travis Dean
Ben Dunk
Evan Gulbis
Sandeep Lamichhane
Nick Larkin
Lance Morris
Marcus Stoinis
Adam Zampa

Ben Dunk
Travis Dean
Marcus Stoinis
Glenn Maxwell
Dwayne Bravo
Nick Larkin
Evan Gulbis
Scott Boland
Sandeep Lamichhane
Jackson Coleman
Adam Zampa

Doubt they play 3 spinners, and Larkin has batted down the order in the JLT.

Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Skyarm on December 20, 2018, 06:36:25 PM
Inglis and Richardson to miss from the Scorchers 13
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Nige on December 20, 2018, 06:39:30 PM
Ludeman
Harper
White
Nabi
Cooper
Christian
Wildermuth
Sutherland
Boyce
Richardson
Shinwari

is the Gades XI
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 21, 2018, 03:33:14 PM
Sydney Sixers squad for the game against Perth

Sean Abbott
Justin Avendano
Tom Curran
Joe Denly
Ben Dwarshuis
Jack Edwards
Dan Fallins
Moises Henriques
Dan Hughes
Steve O'Keefe
Josh Philippe
Lloyd Pope
Jordan Silk
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: fanTCfool on December 21, 2018, 03:37:11 PM
James Pattinson (personal reasons) will miss the match against Hobart
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: GoLions on December 21, 2018, 03:47:04 PM
James Pattinson (personal reasons) will miss the match against Hobart
I hear Greg Davidson is the 3rd ump for that match
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 21, 2018, 04:55:28 PM
James Pattinson (personal reasons) will miss the match against Hobart
Pity with the DGW most would have picked him What are people doing with him keeoing him as he has cash to make or getting rid due to heat having 2 byes.
I am keeping on bench nice vc loophole.

Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on December 22, 2018, 10:03:17 AM
Shocking start for me Willey as C scored 22 didn't bowl still has one more chance Turner scored 16 don't think he bowled but another chance , Watson 28 didn't bowl Butler 38 really didn't fire Neser and Cutting did bugger all Wildermuth my highest score 88  :'( team needs some changes.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 22, 2018, 10:15:44 AM
Not alone there shaker but not quite as bad as I had Khan with his 129 to help. Hoping the DGW players Lyn(C), McCallum, Bryant, Willey, Agur and Turner do better with second chance.  With Storms and Rain forecast will we even get a game at Metricon.
Trades considering for next week with Strikers with DGW,
Lyn to Carey
McCuillum to Weatherald
and depending on second game Turner to maybe Ingram.
Heat with byes for next 2 rounds hence the trades. Bryant and Pattinson on bench due to possible cash generation.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Skyarm on December 22, 2018, 10:47:53 PM
Anyone know what a decent score seems to be? Thought my 811 was alright as I only had 4 scored under 50 and I lost all 5 of my leagues.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 23, 2018, 07:45:22 AM
Look at your position in relation to others and what % you are in to give an idea,  I lost both leagues with 928 even though I was the 4th highest scorer in 1.
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on December 23, 2018, 08:06:23 AM
I won my match 743 to 742  ;D the two lowest scores Cutting saved my butt Willey my downfall scored 36 from 2 games as C  what a spud choice and he lost a stack of cash >:(
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Koop on December 23, 2018, 12:22:51 PM
I've got the feeling that this is the breakout summer for Daniel Sams after what he produced in the JLT. Doesn't start due to other options, but is a very handy POD and will come into heavy consideration after the first few GW's. Arjun Nair likewise. 

Should've listened to myself.  :-[
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: NoButYeah on December 24, 2018, 10:05:50 AM
Last minute switch of Christian to Willey hasn’t worked out well for me so far
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on December 24, 2018, 11:48:10 AM
Last minute switch of Christian to Willey hasn’t worked out well for me so far
Ok what made you get rid of Christian he did well in R1 and Willey failed both games with the bat R1 and did not bowl , I got rid of him and got Carey who failed  ;D
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 24, 2018, 12:17:02 PM
My last minute switch was shocking - Was all set on Willey to M Short (and had posted that in a couple of forums) and then decided to go Willey to Dorf as last trade. Will probably be my worst decision of the series.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on December 24, 2018, 02:44:14 PM
My last minute switch was shocking - Was all set on Willey to M Short (and had posted that in a couple of forums) and then decided to go Willey to Dorf as last trade. Will probably be my worst decision of the series.  >:( >:(
Just looking through the league matches and it might be a blessing mate both the Strikers and Heat have a bye next round and the Dorf seems to be in good form  ;)
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: NoButYeah on December 24, 2018, 03:41:33 PM
Last minute switch of Christian to Willey hasn’t worked out well for me so far
Ok what made you get rid of Christian he did well in R1 and Willey failed both games with the bat R1 and did not bowl , I got rid of him and got Carey who failed  ;D

Oh nah man I meant prior to round 1 starting for Willey’s double, wasnt a trade for round 2. Brought in Carey, Khan and Short this week for a few Heat boys
Title: Re: BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion
Post by: shaker on December 24, 2018, 05:01:29 PM
Last minute switch of Christian to Willey hasn’t worked out well for me so far
Ok what made you get rid of Christian he did well in R1 and Willey failed both games with the bat R1 and did not bowl , I got rid of him and got Carey who failed  ;D

Oh nah man I meant prior to round 1 starting for Willey’s double, wasnt a trade for round 2. Brought in Carey, Khan and Short this week for a few Heat boys
Ok that makes more sense  :D