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Title: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on December 29, 2019, 09:20:03 AM
A thread for all things rookie related

Hopefully over the coming weeks/month we start to hear more from club land to get an idea of which rookies might be a chance to line up Round 1

As of now, here's my rough/early predictions

DEF
At this early stage I think it's looking like it could be slim pickings down back, in terms of cheap/under 150k rookies

Starcevich has said that he is eyeing off a Round 1 debut, and I'd have to think that at least one of Gould/Ling/Stoddart is a chance for Sydney, but outside of that I can't see too much else at this stage

Jez McLennan was popular 12 months ago, but I've seen nothing to suggest his chances will increase, and I can't see how any of the Collingwood rookies are a chance at all. Rivers for Melb maybe?

MID
Rowell should be Walsh 2.0, and I would expect Rowell, Pickett. Hibberd to be starting for every team. Ned McHenry sounds like he's a huge chance to line up Round 1 so he's sitting on my bench atm too

Bytel, Ely/Dev, Maginness, Mahoney, Mead, Sharp, Williams seem like popular place holders for the time being

RUC
Darcy Cameron is the obvious R3 to pair with Grundy, but if you're wanting a floating donut R/F who plays a lot of late games for loopholing then Charlie Comben is your guy

FWD
Really struggling to see anyone here who would actually be a half decent scorer, which has got me thinking about starting a really deep forward line

Rankine and King are the best chances for Round 1 but both could be poor scorers

Cockatoo, McAdam, Kreuger, Hutcheson/Riccardi, Cahill, Treacy seem like decent place holders

I've just focused on sub 150k guys. The likes of Young, Flanders, Bonar seem like popular options too
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on January 26, 2020, 07:13:33 AM
From Herald Sun article ....each club’s supposed best cash cow
NED MCHENRY $123,900 MID
Adelaide will look to give opportunity to their kids and expect McHenry to feature in their new-look line-up. The No.16 pick in the 2018 draft was restricted by injuries in his first year but booted four goals in a senior SANFL final. tackling machine can impact up forward and in the midfield and has all the tools to score well.
DEVEN ROBERTSON $117,3000 MID
The strong midfielder broke Sam Walsh’s Under-18 carnival disposal record last year and will feature prominently in our SuperCoach sides in the future. It’s just a matter of breaking into that Lions midfield, which is a tough ask.
TOM WILLIAMSON $146,3000 DEF
Injury has kept the running defender to just two AFL games since his impressive first season in 2017. Sam Docherty’s return doesn’t help the 21-year-old’s chances but he is one to watch out for.
DARCY CAMERON $123,900 RUCK/FWD
Cameron has been stuck in the Swans ruck queue for several years but will hope to challenge Mason Cox for the role of tall forward and ruck back-up to Brodie Grundy at the Magpies. The 205cm 24-year-old stands out as the leading cheap ruck option.
MITCH HIBBERD $114,400 MID
Former Kangaroo was locked in many teams before suffering an injury setback at training last week. Hibberd will undergo surgery and is set to be sidelined for up to six weeks, making him touch and go for Round 1. Nonetheless, the 23-year-old remains a solid rookie options after averaging 128 points in the VFL last season as an inside midfielder – the kind of player the Bombers desperately need.
STEPHEN HILL $190,600 DEF/FWD
A player who has twice averaged over 95 points in a season for $190k with rare defender/forward dual position status is SuperCoach gold. Hill has played just 16 games in the past two seasons due to injury but the 29-year-old is worth the risk. He sits just ahead of smooth moving draftee Hayden Young ($180,3000 DEF) in the Docker rookie ranks.
NAKIA COCKATOO $148,200 MID/FWD
It’s never been a question of talent for the Cats playmaker. Cockatoo is too good to resist at this price if he is fit and firing but, like Hill, injuries are always a concern.
IZAK RANKINE $123,9000 FWD
It would be easy to go with No.1 pick Matt Rowell, but Rankine comes much more cheaply after an injury interrupted first season at the Suns. The excitement machine could be anything and is set to make us a truckload of cash.
FINN MAGINNESS $117,3000 MID
A bid came later than expected for the Hawthorn father-son which puts him in the base cash cow bracket. The fitness freak averaged 94 points per game at the Under-18 carnival and is one to watch during the pre-season.
TOM GREEN $166,800 MID
This Giant looms as the next SuperCoach beast. The clearance machine had a higher contested possession rate than Patrick Cripps at Under-18 level, winning a whopping 66 per cent in a contest. Can he force his way into the Giants’ stacked midfield?
TRENT RIVERS $117,3000 DEF/MID
The Demons are crying out for efficient ball use and pace and Rivers brings these qualities in spades. The youngster has a mature frame and is another to keep tabs on during the Marsh Community Series. Kysaiah Pickett ($157,800 FWD) could also break into Melbourne’s side early.
LACHIE HOSIE $123,9000 FWD
Hosie joined the Roos through last season’s mid-season draft after booting 21 goals in eight games at SANFL level. The 22-year-old forward can perform in the air and at ground level and could get senior opportunity in 2020.
JACKSON MEAD $117,3000 MID
The father-son draftee is closing in on a Round 1 berth and should debut sooner rather than later. Mead averaged 106 SuperCoach points at the Under-18 national championships and is one to slot on your midfield bench for now.
MARLION PICKETT $123,9000 MID
Pickett was in more than 80 per cent of pre-season sides thanks to his magnificent 96-point Grand Final debut. Thankfully, that performance isn’t factored into the 28-year-old’s 2020 starting price, making him a must-have.
JACK BYTEL $123,9000 FWD
The young Saint was kept on the sidelines his first season because of back surgery but is every chance to crack into their best 22 early in 2020. The tough midfielder thrives in the contest and is a strong tackler, two features that bode well for SuperCoach.
WILL GOULD $117,3000 DEF
The Shannon Hurn comparisons are one thing, an average of 89 points at senior SANFL level in his Under-18 year is another. The big-bodied defender should get opportunities from the outset in a transitioning Swans side.
BEN CAVARRA $123,9000 FWD
We had Cavarra locked into our forward lines last pre-season, but the mature-age recruit — who starred for years in the VFL — failed to play a game in his debut season. If he can break into the Bulldogs side before the season kicks off, he is close to a must-have.
JARROD BRANDER $133,000 FWD
Not much to speak of on the rookie front for the Eagles after giving away a raft of draft picks in the Tim Kelly deal during the trade period. Brander played two games last season but the 2017 first round draftee should feature more prominently in his third season.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on January 26, 2020, 07:21:50 AM
Wish Bytel was a fwd ^ unfortunately not
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on January 27, 2020, 10:06:29 PM
I've come across a few articles recently that lead me to think we might have a few more forward options to choose from

The following guys seem to at least be in the mix for a possible Round 1 chance

- Kreuger (GEE)
- Sturt (FRE)
- King (STK)
- Rankine (GC)
- Hosie (NTH)
- Frampton (ADE)
- Flanders (GC)
- Cockatoo (GEE)
- Pickett (MEL)

Frampton is the one that I am interested in - you'd think either him or Himmelberg are going to play as that 2nd key tall forward who is also able to support ROB - hopefully Billy gets first crack

DEF on the other hand is still looking pretty grim at the moment - besides Young, Starcevich, Gould and Rivers I haven't really heard about anyone else being a possible chance at this stage, but we still have a fair bit of time

Early mail suggests we go a little deeper down back, and can possibly go with 4 fwd rookies (2 on field and 2 on bench)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on January 28, 2020, 05:25:16 AM
I've come across a few articles recently that lead me to think we might have a few more forward options to choose from

The following guys seem to at least be in the mix for a possible Round 1 chance

- Kreuger (GEE)
- Sturt (FRE)
- King (STK)
- Rankine (GC)
- Hosie (NTH)
- Frampton (ADE)
- Flanders (GC)
- Cockatoo (GEE)
- Pickett (MEL)

Frampton is the one that I am interested in - you'd think either him or Himmelberg are going to play as that 2nd key tall forward who is also able to support ROB - hopefully Billy gets first crack

DEF on the other hand is still looking pretty grim at the moment - besides Young, Starcevich, Gould and Rivers I haven't really heard about anyone else being a possible chance at this stage, but we still have a fair bit of time

Early mail suggests we go a little deeper down back, and can possibly go with 4 fwd rookies (2 on field and 2 on bench)
Defence at least has Doedee, Roberton and Hill available as cheaper experienced options (should they all get named R1) if the rookies don’t come through.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: duffercoat on January 28, 2020, 08:36:21 AM
It's incredibly likely that one of the Port forward rookies (Georgiades/Bergman) plays rd 1 too. Both have the running capacity already and have been talked up by Hinkley.

Only problem that I can foresee is if Mead gets the spot opened by Gray and doesn't leave room for the other two.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 01, 2020, 02:15:32 AM
I have dine my best 22s for most teams.
Coming to the realisation about the following popular picks for round 1.
Simple yes or no to play round 1.

Rowell yes
Pickett yes
Young yes
Ranking yes
King yes
And nOw it all goes bleak.
McHenry no (but leaning to maybe)
Gould/Stephens (think they battling for the last spot)
Robertson/smith no chance
Bytel no chance
Mead no
Sharp/Flanders nope.

Conclusion
There will be a lot more doedee/bonar/kpickett teams showing up
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Bones Bombers on February 01, 2020, 08:49:22 AM
Nobody is mentioning Anderson. Is there a reason I have missed or is it the high print?
What chance is he of lining up round 1?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 01, 2020, 09:32:57 AM
Nobody is mentioning Anderson. Is there a reason I have missed or is it the high print?
What chance is he of lining up round 1?

Do you think Noah Anderson can displace any of the following in best 22.
Ainsworth - no
Sexton - no
Bowes - no
Macpherson - probably no
Lemmens yes(but not best 22)
Ballard yes (not best 22)
Powell probably no
Miles- no
Also
Sharp
Flanders

I got 16 on field locks that there is no debate on and then 6 spots out of the names above for their best 22 (some of which are probably locks as well)

With everyone on the park the suns aren’t as easy a side to crack into as what I first assumed.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on February 01, 2020, 09:53:15 AM
I think Cockatoo is probably a yes to add to the list

Also Rivers/Pickett vying for a position in Dees best 22.

So we wait and see who lines up for rd 1.  At the moment I have the following rookies as place holders on field Rivers, Rowell, Pickett (Richmond), Mchenry,  S Hill, Cockatoo and Rankine. Possible that are on benches are Gould, Bytel and M King.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: coglan13 on February 01, 2020, 10:41:55 AM
I have dine my best 22s for most teams.
Coming to the realisation about the following popular picks for round 1.
Simple yes or no to play round 1.

Rowell yes
Pickett yes
Young yes
Ranking yes
King yes
And nOw it all goes bleak.
McHenry no (but leaning to maybe)
Gould/Stephens (think they battling for the last spot)
Robertson/smith no chance
Bytel no chance
Mead no
Sharp/Flanders nope.

Conclusion
There will be a lot more doedee/bonar/kpickett teams showing up
McHenry should play. Port will probably give one rook a debut so Mead a chance.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 01, 2020, 12:53:31 PM
Nobody is mentioning Anderson. Is there a reason I have missed or is it the high print?
What chance is he of lining up round 1?

Do you think Noah Anderson can displace any of the following in best 22.
Ainsworth - no
Sexton - no
Bowes - no
Macpherson - probably no
Lemmens yes(but not best 22)
Ballard yes (not best 22)
Powell probably no
Miles- no
Also
Sharp
Flanders

I got 16 on field locks that there is no debate on and then 6 spots out of the names above for their best 22 (some of which are probably locks as well)

With everyone on the park the suns aren’t as easy a side to crack into as what I first assumed.

Gold Coast's list is too long, just not enough spots each week. Some can't even get a NEAFL game.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 01, 2020, 12:57:52 PM
Nobody is mentioning Anderson. Is there a reason I have missed or is it the high print?
What chance is he of lining up round 1?

Do you think Noah Anderson can displace any of the following in best 22.
Ainsworth - no
Sexton - no
Bowes - no
Macpherson - probably no
Lemmens yes(but not best 22)
Ballard yes (not best 22)
Powell probably no
Miles- no
Also
Sharp
Flanders

I got 16 on field locks that there is no debate on and then 6 spots out of the names above for their best 22 (some of which are probably locks as well)

With everyone on the park the suns aren’t as easy a side to crack into as what I first assumed.

Gold Coast's list is too long, just not enough spots each week. Some can't even get a NEAFL game.
Agreed, seems likely they'll be rotating the kids throughout the year.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: crowls on February 01, 2020, 06:03:32 PM
Nobody is mentioning Anderson. Is there a reason I have missed or is it the high print?
What chance is he of lining up round 1?

Do you think Noah Anderson can displace any of the following in best 22.
Ainsworth - no
Sexton - no
Bowes - no
Macpherson - probably no
Lemmens yes(but not best 22)
Ballard yes (not best 22)
Powell probably no
Miles- no
Also
Sharp
Flanders

I got 16 on field locks that there is no debate on and then 6 spots out of the names above for their best 22 (some of which are probably locks as well)

With everyone on the park the suns aren’t as easy a side to crack into as what I first assumed.

Gold Coast's list is too long, just not enough spots each week. Some can't even get a NEAFL game.
Agreed, seems likely they'll be rotating the kids throughout the year.
Do not like the sound of that at all.   screws them all up for fantasy coaches
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 02, 2020, 03:51:32 PM
Nobody is mentioning Anderson. Is there a reason I have missed or is it the high print?
What chance is he of lining up round 1?

Do you think Noah Anderson can displace any of the following in best 22.
Ainsworth - no
Sexton - no
Bowes - no
Macpherson - probably no
Lemmens yes(but not best 22)
Ballard yes (not best 22)
Powell probably no
Miles- no
Also
Sharp
Flanders

I got 16 on field locks that there is no debate on and then 6 spots out of the names above for their best 22 (some of which are probably locks as well)

With everyone on the park the suns aren’t as easy a side to crack into as what I first assumed.

Gold Coast's list is too long, just not enough spots each week. Some can't even get a NEAFL game.
Agreed, seems likely they'll be rotating the kids throughout the year.
Do not like the sound of that at all.   screws them all up for fantasy coaches


https://www.afl.com.au/news/364942/the-afl-hasn-t-seen-a-list-this-big-why-size-matters-for-the-suns
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2020, 12:45:22 PM
Adelaide’s top draft pick, Fischer McAsey, is on track for a Round 1 debut after an impressive first pre-season at the Crows.

“At the moment he’s playing in such good form in some of our match play that he would be one we might have a look at for Round 1,” Nicks told Sportsday SA.

McAsey averaged 97 points per game for Vic Metro and 88 in seven NAB League matches for Sandringham, with one a 10-mark, three-goal performance in attack.

Don’t be scared off by the old ‘key-defenders don’t feature in SuperCoach’ theory, McAsey is likely to be a much better scorer than the title suggests.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 04, 2020, 08:39:13 PM
what will Harley Bennell cost us, and watch his numbers grow. Should be rookie priced, yeah?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2020, 10:16:15 PM
what will Harley Bennell cost us, and watch his numbers grow. Should be rookie priced, yeah?

117k or there abouts

If he somehow gets named I'm locking him in - can't be much worse options for M11
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 05, 2020, 12:01:07 AM
what will Harley Bennell cost us, and watch his numbers grow. Should be rookie priced, yeah?

117k or there abouts

If he somehow gets named I'm locking him in - can't be much worse options for M11

Yep, thanks RD
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 05, 2020, 01:07:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/1oGbj0E.png)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 05, 2020, 01:36:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/1oGbj0E.png)

Really should be a M/F but doesn't matter, doubt he'll play anyways.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on February 05, 2020, 11:15:41 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/1oGbj0E.png)

No thank you.

(although I hope I'm wrong, as I'd love to see him get up).

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 06, 2020, 05:10:50 PM
4 suns, 3 crows, 3 lions, 3 kangas all needed to debut Rnd 1. What are my chances of this happening.... Slim at best.   :o
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: GoLions on February 06, 2020, 05:16:51 PM
4 suns, 3 crows, 3 lions, 3 kangas all needed to debut Rnd 1. What are my chances of this happening.... Slim at best.   :o
...why?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 06, 2020, 06:45:08 PM
4 suns, 3 crows, 3 lions, 3 kangas all needed to debut Rnd 1. What are my chances of this happening.... Slim at best.   :o
...why?

would make life easy.

Have been wrong before thou.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 07, 2020, 10:45:07 AM
4 suns, 3 crows, 3 lions, 3 kangas all needed to debut Rnd 1. What are my chances of this happening.... Slim at best.   :o
Only one I could see happening is potentially the Suns (Rowell, Anderson, Rankine, Flanders).
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 07, 2020, 07:26:24 PM
4 suns, 3 crows, 3 lions, 3 kangas all needed to debut Rnd 1. What are my chances of this happening.... Slim at best.   :o
Only one I could see happening is potentially the Suns (Rowell, Anderson, Rankine, Flanders).

Marsh Cup cant come quick enough, 13 more sleeps.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 10, 2020, 12:52:53 PM
Rhyce Shaw on Bonar

“He’s a really exciting talent and I can see the reason he was picked up No.11. He’s super exciting, super powerful and hopefully plays a big part in our midfield this year.

JZ on Bonar

“He’s very big and powerful and I’d like to see him in our midfield pretty early on to see if he can add a few more dimensions in there, and just give a bit more flexibility and depth as well,”
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 10, 2020, 06:46:50 PM
Rhyce Shaw on Bonar

“He’s a really exciting talent and I can see the reason he was picked up No.11. He’s super exciting, super powerful and hopefully plays a big part in our midfield this year.

JZ on Bonar

“He’s very big and powerful and I’d like to see him in our midfield pretty early on to see if he can add a few more dimensions in there, and just give a bit more flexibility and depth as well,”

Bad pick? Haha
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 10, 2020, 06:58:43 PM
Rhyce Shaw on Bonar

“He’s a really exciting talent and I can see the reason he was picked up No.11. He’s super exciting, super powerful and hopefully plays a big part in our midfield this year.

JZ on Bonar

“He’s very big and powerful and I’d like to see him in our midfield pretty early on to see if he can add a few more dimensions in there, and just give a bit more flexibility and depth as well,”

Bad pick? Haha

Not sure I said he was a bad pick - starting him at F3 is though haha

If he plays in the guts during Marsh and starts Round 1 then he's pretty much a lock
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 11, 2020, 10:13:20 PM
Dew said Rowell and Anderson could not have prepared better for their debut AFL seasons.

"Their thirst for hard work is so impressive," Dew said. "They’ve walked straight in to our top five runners. They are elite, as it stands now. They are ready to go, they have got mature bodies. They let the footy do the talking, they are not arrogant, they are humble, and the way they are handling the extra attention they are getting is very impressive too."

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on February 13, 2020, 06:04:47 PM
Max King kicked 4 goals in the intra club today. Ratten reckons he is on track for R1.... Could play through to R5 and assess for a rest; could play the first 3; could play the whole year.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on February 13, 2020, 06:22:20 PM
Dew said Rowell and Anderson could not have prepared better for their debut AFL seasons.

"Their thirst for hard work is so impressive," Dew said. "They’ve walked straight in to our top five runners. They are elite, as it stands now. They are ready to go, they have got mature bodies. They let the footy do the talking, they are not arrogant, they are humble, and the way they are handling the extra attention they are getting is very impressive too."
Bit expensive though to start both. Unless you have the gonads to start at M5 and M6
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 13, 2020, 06:39:50 PM
Dew said Rowell and Anderson could not have prepared better for their debut AFL seasons.

"Their thirst for hard work is so impressive," Dew said. "They’ve walked straight in to our top five runners. They are elite, as it stands now. They are ready to go, they have got mature bodies. They let the footy do the talking, they are not arrogant, they are humble, and the way they are handling the extra attention they are getting is very impressive too."
Bit expensive though to start both. Unless you have the gonads to start at M5 and M6

I've got Rowell M5 and Stephen/Ando M6 :)

Might be forced to stick with it too if we don't start seeing some decent cheap rookies
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 13, 2020, 08:28:42 PM
Dew said Rowell and Anderson could not have prepared better for their debut AFL seasons.

"Their thirst for hard work is so impressive," Dew said. "They’ve walked straight in to our top five runners. They are elite, as it stands now. They are ready to go, they have got mature bodies. They let the footy do the talking, they are not arrogant, they are humble, and the way they are handling the extra attention they are getting is very impressive too."
Bit expensive though to start both. Unless you have the gonads to start at M5 and M6

At the minute, most teams are looking at either the expensive rookies or a who's who of the  returning hospital ward
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2020, 07:12:58 AM
Thought I'd make another update since starting this

DEF
Still looking pretty thin down back. McAsey and Young are looking likely to debut but aren't cheap at 180k+. Starcevich is still in the mix for Brisbane but even he isn't a cheapo at 147k

In terms of the 123k and below guys, we might get 1 of the Swans (Gould/Ling/Stoddart) but that's about it. I see a lot of people using the likes of Rivers, Bianco etc as placeholders but as of today, I don't think any of those cheap guys are playing Round 1 so I'd be thinking about contingency plans if you're currently running with multiple cheap guys down back

Just to be safe, and realistic, I've actually got Starcevich at D7 for now - I think that's a good idea to allocate that extra cash there for now

MID
Things aren't looking great here either for us bargain hunters. Rowell, Anderson and Stephen all seem likely to play Round 1 but that's a fair chunk of cash if you're starting more than 1 of them

Cockatoo seems like a fair chance at 146k, but as we know he falls apart like a cheap suit so carries risk

Pickett is a lock, and I still think McHenry is too so I've got him in my side, but from the rest of the 123k and below guys there hasn't been a lot of encouraging news about any of them likely debuting Round 1.

Of course we'll all be watching the Marsh series and hoping for a few to pop up, but from everything I've read I would say the players who are somewhat of a chance are: Bytel, Valente, Simpson, Maginness, Mead, Robertson, Warner, Budarick. Even half of them are a stretch, but they're a (small) chance

FWD
All of a sudden it's sounding like this is where we will have most rookies. Most of them probably won't be good scorers, but at least we can now start to stack other lines or look at other structures if we know we'll be able to pick 4 fwd rookies for example

Bonar (DPP), Bergman, Cockatoo (DPP), Georgiades, Cox, Hosie, King, Kreuger, McAdam, Rankine, Sturt, Mahoney (DPP) and Skinner are all names that have popped up in articles over the past month - I'm not saying they're all big chances, some certainly are, but that's a big list of names to use as placeholders which is encouraging

Hopefully we'll see some other names pop up over the coming weeks too, but for now I think that's a fairly realistic outlook
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 15, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
You got an itch RD, lol.  It’s hard predicting round one teams in February Something will pop up, always does.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on February 15, 2020, 11:07:22 AM
Nice summary RD - Expect maybe some more to jump up as well and we wait anxiously.

Like you using a couple of expensive rookies as  place holders to cover contingencies. Big issue as usual picking the right ones and hoping they do not get dropped after Rd 1 or 2 and get stuck on the bench.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 15, 2020, 01:04:41 PM
Cockatoo injury hurts
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2020, 01:11:37 PM
Cockatoo injury hurts

He got injured again? Can't see any mention of it

Danger said this yesterday about Cockatoo

"He is a supremely talented player that, at his best, can really change the dynamic in our forward line and midfield but we have got to make sure we bulletproof him enough so he can do that for sustained periods of time," Dangerfield said.

"We will build him up slowly so he can withstand a full season."

I reckon he's likely going to be a trap - he just seems to be made of glass and I'd prefer not to pick him
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 15, 2020, 01:16:09 PM
Cockatoo injury hurts

He got injured again? Can't see any mention of it

Danger said this yesterday about Cockatoo

"He is a supremely talented player that, at his best, can really change the dynamic in our forward line and midfield but we have got to make sure we bulletproof him enough so he can do that for sustained periods of time," Dangerfield said.

"We will build him up slowly so he can withstand a full season."

I reckon he's likely going to be a trap - he just seems to be made of glass and I'd prefer not to pick him

Yup he’s unlikely round 1 so he’s gone Georgiades in for now
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: _wato on February 15, 2020, 01:28:26 PM
That's fine if Cock misses Round 1. Nice little DG option early.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: _wato on February 15, 2020, 01:43:12 PM
FWIW my rookies currently

Gould/Williamson/Brander
Rowell/Stephens/Pickett/McHenry/Maginness/Mead
Cameron
Jones/Rankine/Georgiades/King

Also jumping on the Chayce bandwagon for now.
Bonar seems the only rookie I don't have that I could jump on if need be.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on February 15, 2020, 02:16:17 PM
Thought I'd make another update since starting this

DEF
Still looking pretty thin down back. McAsey and Young are looking likely to debut but aren't cheap at 180k+. Starcevich is still in the mix for Brisbane but even he isn't a cheapo at 147k

In terms of the 123k and below guys, we might get 1 of the Swans (Gould/Ling/Stoddart) but that's about it. I see a lot of people using the likes of Rivers, Bianco etc as placeholders but as of today, I don't think any of those cheap guys are playing Round 1 so I'd be thinking about contingency plans if you're currently running with multiple cheap guys down back

Just to be safe, and realistic, I've actually got Starcevich at D7 for now - I think that's a good idea to allocate that extra cash there for now

MID
Things aren't looking great here either for us bargain hunters. Rowell, Anderson and Stephen all seem likely to play Round 1 but that's a fair chunk of cash if you're starting more than 1 of them

Cockatoo seems like a fair chance at 146k, but as we know he falls apart like a cheap suit so carries risk

Pickett is a lock, and I still think McHenry is too so I've got him in my side, but from the rest of the 123k and below guys there hasn't been a lot of encouraging news about any of them likely debuting Round 1.

Of course we'll all be watching the Marsh series and hoping for a few to pop up, but from everything I've read I would say the players who are somewhat of a chance are: Bytel, Valente, Simpson, Maginness, Mead, Robertson, Warner, Budarick. Even half of them are a stretch, but they're a (small) chance

FWD
All of a sudden it's sounding like this is where we will have most rookies. Most of them probably won't be good scorers, but at least we can now start to stack other lines or look at other structures if we know we'll be able to pick 4 fwd rookies for example

Bonar (DPP), Bergman, Cockatoo (DPP), Georgiades, Cox, Hosie, King, Kreuger, McAdam, Rankine, Sturt, Mahoney (DPP) and Skinner are all names that have popped up in articles over the past month - I'm not saying they're all big chances, some certainly are, but that's a big list of names to use as placeholders which is encouraging

Hopefully we'll see some other names pop up over the coming weeks too, but for now I think that's a fairly realistic outlook

Completely agree, RD. This is why I've been making the case for Bonar at F3.

Not because I like the move, but because I've invested so much cash in my Rookies (8x 140K), and structuring up with Docherty F3 / Oliver M5 / Gawn R2 you have to give up the mid-pricer Forward option (Steven / Smith)  and go straight to the Rookies at F3.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 15, 2020, 03:00:31 PM
Thought I'd make another update since starting this

DEF
Still looking pretty thin down back. McAsey and Young are looking likely to debut but aren't cheap at 180k+. Starcevich is still in the mix for Brisbane but even he isn't a cheapo at 147k

In terms of the 123k and below guys, we might get 1 of the Swans (Gould/Ling/Stoddart) but that's about it. I see a lot of people using the likes of Rivers, Bianco etc as placeholders but as of today, I don't think any of those cheap guys are playing Round 1 so I'd be thinking about contingency plans if you're currently running with multiple cheap guys down back

Just to be safe, and realistic, I've actually got Starcevich at D7 for now - I think that's a good idea to allocate that extra cash there for now

MID
Things aren't looking great here either for us bargain hunters. Rowell, Anderson and Stephen all seem likely to play Round 1 but that's a fair chunk of cash if you're starting more than 1 of them

Cockatoo seems like a fair chance at 146k, but as we know he falls apart like a cheap suit so carries risk

Pickett is a lock, and I still think McHenry is too so I've got him in my side, but from the rest of the 123k and below guys there hasn't been a lot of encouraging news about any of them likely debuting Round 1.

Of course we'll all be watching the Marsh series and hoping for a few to pop up, but from everything I've read I would say the players who are somewhat of a chance are: Bytel, Valente, Simpson, Maginness, Mead, Robertson, Warner, Budarick. Even half of them are a stretch, but they're a (small) chance

FWD
All of a sudden it's sounding like this is where we will have most rookies. Most of them probably won't be good scorers, but at least we can now start to stack other lines or look at other structures if we know we'll be able to pick 4 fwd rookies for example

Bonar (DPP), Bergman, Cockatoo (DPP), Georgiades, Cox, Hosie, King, Kreuger, McAdam, Rankine, Sturt, Mahoney (DPP) and Skinner are all names that have popped up in articles over the past month - I'm not saying they're all big chances, some certainly are, but that's a big list of names to use as placeholders which is encouraging

Hopefully we'll see some other names pop up over the coming weeks too, but for now I think that's a fairly realistic outlook

Completely agree, RD. This is why I've been making the case for Bonar at F3.

Not because I like the move, but because I've invested so much cash in my Rookies (8x 140K), and structuring up with Docherty F3 / Oliver M5 / Gawn R2 you have to give up the mid-pricer Forward option (Steven / Smith)  and go straight to the Rookies at F3.

I have gone the other way haha. I’m considering Steven at f4 and smith f5 and sacrificing m5 for now. Rowell bonar and Stephens are all in my midfield though and I may even go further and select Anderson/Flanders as well  if they look safe.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 15, 2020, 04:15:48 PM
Also jumping on the Chayce bandwagon for now.

Hopefully too many people don't jump on ;)

It's Jones v Bonar for me, and I prefer Jones atm even though he costs more. He's certainly not locked, but for now I like it

Completely agree, RD. This is why I've been making the case for Bonar at F3.

Not because I like the move, but because I've invested so much cash in my Rookies (8x 140K), and structuring up with Docherty F3 / Oliver M5 / Gawn R2 you have to give up the mid-pricer Forward option (Steven / Smith)  and go straight to the Rookies at F3.

Yeah I'm on board,  but for a different reason - I just hate all the fwd prem options, so I'll set all other lines to begin with and then my first upgrades of the season will be forwards - at least this way I get to see the fwds for a bit and see who looks like being the best

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Peter on February 15, 2020, 04:59:11 PM
I agree / and you know that other than Whitfield, they are not going up in price too much by round 6-7, giving time for the cash cows to fatten. Must going with Whitfield still, giving me ultra premium up forward
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on February 16, 2020, 01:42:00 AM
I have gone the other way haha. I’m considering Steven at f4 and smith f5 and sacrificing m5 for now. Rowell bonar and Stephens are all in my midfield though and I may even go further and select Anderson/Flanders as well  if they look safe.

Steven and Dev at F3 and F4 with Bonar at F5 also feels like a safe play. It only forces me to start one of Rankine/King on field and my gut tells me they won't be great scorers with the nature of their positions. Rankine will be a small forward in a terrible team and young KPP normally struggle to put up points.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 17, 2020, 07:11:22 PM
$200k rookies..........yuck.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ingram on February 18, 2020, 12:45:50 PM
At the moment sitting on

Whitfield Smith Hill
Bonar Rook x 4 (Sturt, Rank, Cox, King)

But now I've read the Whitfield posts it's time to have a look without him.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on February 18, 2020, 02:21:19 PM
Rookies I currently have discounting Hill, Smith, Roberton and Bonar on field

Def: Young (Ling, Rivers)
Mid: Rowell, Stephens, Pickett (McHenry, Maginess, Mead)
Ruck:(  Comben Loophole option)
Fwds: Georgiadis, Rankine (King, Skinner)

Obviously not set but those on field look like definite starters.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on February 18, 2020, 03:41:39 PM
I have a list of all players under $250k for tracking over the Marsh Series. If you want me to share it let me know and ill give people access.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 18, 2020, 05:53:06 PM
How many would really love brander to line up for that fwd/def link with hill?

I have rated him for years as a player just hard to get a gig at eagles ... hopefully this is the year. He’s a gun (maybe not for sc yet but for a rookie he will be decent for us)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on February 18, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
How many would really love brander to line up for that fwd/def link with hill?

I have rated him for years as a player just hard to get a gig at eagles ... hopefully this is the year. He’s a gun (maybe not for sc yet but for a rookie he will be decent for us)

I've had Brander sitting at D8 next to Starcevich for all of pre-season. I really hope I don't have to tinker with them.

And as you said... it feels so good having Brander back there with Hill on the forward line.

Andrew Gaff said some nice things about him before Christmas, suggesting he could be one to break out (in real footy terms).
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2020, 08:33:31 PM
I have a list of all players under $250k for tracking over the Marsh Series. If you want me to share it let me know and ill give people access.

Freako, Herald Sun, Live Scoring - there will be plenty of that info flying around. Save yourself the time

Even if Brander does play, he's likely going to be a really poor scorer - excited about him as a fan, but not as an SC option
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 18, 2020, 09:52:08 PM
How many would really love brander to line up for that fwd/def link with hill?

I have rated him for years as a player just hard to get a gig at eagles ... hopefully this is the year. He’s a gun (maybe not for sc yet but for a rookie he will be decent for us)

I've had Brander sitting at D8 next to Starcevich for all of pre-season. I really hope I don't have to tinker with them.

And as you said... it feels so good having Brander back there with Hill on the forward line.

Andrew Gaff said some nice things about him before Christmas, suggesting he could be one to break out (in real footy terms).

It’s just where does he play? Literally maybe the wing rotation is all that’s open for him and he’s a big boy.

Shep barrass Hurn
Jetta McGovern ..?.. (prob Duggan/rotham/cole)
Sheed Shuey gaff
Cripps darling Ryan
Allen kennedy ..?...( petrucelle/Cameron/brander?/waterman?)
Nic Nat Kelly yeo
(Hickey redden ..?.. ..?.. (names above/hutchings)

Extremely tight and one bad game and he’s out.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on February 18, 2020, 10:25:22 PM
I have a list of all players under $250k for tracking over the Marsh Series. If you want me to share it let me know and ill give people access.

Freako, Herald Sun, Live Scoring - there will be plenty of that info flying around. Save yourself the time

Even if Brander does play, he's likely going to be a really poor scorer - excited about him as a fan, but not as an SC option

I already have one with the 2019 scores in it as well. I also don't trust just looking at the scores, I rather like looking at why they got their scores as many rookies scores are overinflated in preseason as they are given more opportunity than they would normally be.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2020, 10:34:17 PM
It’s just where does he play? Literally maybe the wing rotation is all that’s open for him and he’s a big boy.

Shep barrass Hurn
Jetta McGovern ..?.. (prob Duggan/rotham/cole)
Sheed Shuey gaff
Cripps darling Ryan
Allen kennedy ..?...( petrucelle/Cameron/brander?/waterman?)
Nic Nat Kelly yeo
(Hickey redden ..?.. ..?.. (names above/hutchings)

Extremely tight and one bad game and he’s out.

Here's Fox Sports take

B: Liam Duggan, Tom Barrass, Brad Sheppard
HB: Shannon Hurn, Jeremy McGovern, Lewis Jetta
C: Dom Sheed, Elliot Yeo, Andrew Gaff
HF: Jamie Cripps, Jack Darling, Jack Petruccelle
F: Oscar Allen, Josh Kennedy, Liam Ryan
FOLL: Nic Naitanui, Luke Shuey, Tim Kelly
I/C: Tom Hickey, Mark Hutchings, Jack Redden, Jarrod Cameron
EMER: Jackson Nelson, Jake Waterman, Tom Cole, Josh Rotham

Brander not in the 26, let alone 22

I don't necessarily agree with that 26, but either Brander has to be a very slim chance for Round 1
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2020, 10:36:27 PM
I have a list of all players under $250k for tracking over the Marsh Series. If you want me to share it let me know and ill give people access.

Freako, Herald Sun, Live Scoring - there will be plenty of that info flying around. Save yourself the time

Even if Brander does play, he's likely going to be a really poor scorer - excited about him as a fan, but not as an SC option

I already have one with the 2019 scores in it as well. I also don't trust just looking at the scores, I rather like looking at why they got their scores as many rookies scores are overinflated in preseason as they are given more opportunity than they would normally be.

And how do you determine the why? Surely a glance at their stats (TOG, possession type etc) is enough to do that

Sorry, just trying to understand how your spreadsheet is any different to all scores/stats that will be out there
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 18, 2020, 10:50:33 PM
It’s just where does he play? Literally maybe the wing rotation is all that’s open for him and he’s a big boy.

Shep barrass Hurn
Jetta McGovern ..?.. (prob Duggan/rotham/cole)
Sheed Shuey gaff
Cripps darling Ryan
Allen kennedy ..?...( petrucelle/Cameron/brander?/waterman?)
Nic Nat Kelly yeo
(Hickey redden ..?.. ..?.. (names above/hutchings)

Extremely tight and one bad game and he’s out.

Here's Fox Sports take

B: Liam Duggan, Tom Barrass, Brad Sheppard
HB: Shannon Hurn, Jeremy McGovern, Lewis Jetta
C: Dom Sheed, Elliot Yeo, Andrew Gaff
HF: Jamie Cripps, Jack Darling, Jack Petruccelle
F: Oscar Allen, Josh Kennedy, Liam Ryan
FOLL: Nic Naitanui, Luke Shuey, Tim Kelly
I/C: Tom Hickey, Mark Hutchings, Jack Redden, Jarrod Cameron
EMER: Jackson Nelson, Jake Waterman, Tom Cole, Josh Rotham

Brander not in the 26, let alone 22

I don't necessarily agree with that 26, but either Brander has to be a very slim chance for Round 1

Yeah eagles have great depth. I won’t be surprised to see him play round 1, we have to start playing this bloke as way too talented to ignore.
I still Give brander probably more chance than some of these other rookies people think are going to play.

I reckon he plays round 1 for sure but would wanna have a cracker otherwise he’s first out.
Gotta remember this is a guy they refused to give up in trades for Tim Kelly as they valued him greater than a single first round draft pick either this/next year.

Note- might be my bias talking but I absolutely love this bloke and think he will be not only a handy player but a future star of the competition
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RoughRed on February 19, 2020, 12:31:46 AM

Yeah eagles have great depth. I won’t be surprised to see him play round 1, we have to start playing this bloke as way too talented to ignore. I still Give brander probably more chance than some of these other rookies people think are going to play.

I reckon he plays round 1 for sure but would wanna have a cracker otherwise he’s first out.
Gotta remember this is a guy they refused to give up in trades for Tim Kelly as they valued him greater than a single first round draft pick either this/next year.

Note- might be my bias talking but I absolutely love this bloke and think he will be not only a handy player but a future star of the competition
As a WCE supporter I agree but unless he is on ground this year that equals ZERO SC points
They will need to give him a taste, more than a taste soon - But where does he play???

He is 195cm (21yo) listed as a key forward - 2 games for 35 SC points a game

While touted as a successor for JK (196 cm 32 yo going 33) others such as Waterman (191cm, 21yo, 13 games) and Allen (191cm 20yo, 23 matches) have taken their chances when given

Can not see him in the forward line, unless forbid, injury or JK is "rested". Too big and will upset the balance

Not as a backman either IMO - depending on injury/match-ups Schofield & Rotham cover the talls at the moment and Frankie & Cole cover the others

Maybe the Midfield as a Patrick Cripps doppelganger :D :D

Even if named round 1 the question is will he play 3 games - IMO he is not a SC option for 2020
(May he prove me wrong ... please)


Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 19, 2020, 08:48:15 AM

Yeah eagles have great depth. I won’t be surprised to see him play round 1, we have to start playing this bloke as way too talented to ignore. I still Give brander probably more chance than some of these other rookies people think are going to play.

I reckon he plays round 1 for sure but would wanna have a cracker otherwise he’s first out.
Gotta remember this is a guy they refused to give up in trades for Tim Kelly as they valued him greater than a single first round draft pick either this/next year.

Note- might be my bias talking but I absolutely love this bloke and think he will be not only a handy player but a future star of the competition
As a WCE supporter I agree but unless he is on ground this year that equals ZERO SC points
They will need to give him a taste, more than a taste soon - But where does he play???

He is 195cm (21yo) listed as a key forward - 2 games for 35 SC points a game

While touted as a successor for JK (196 cm 32 yo going 33) others such as Waterman (191cm, 21yo, 13 games) and Allen (191cm 20yo, 23 matches) have taken their chances when given

Can not see him in the forward line, unless forbid, injury or JK is "rested". Too big and will upset the balance

Not as a backman either IMO - depending on injury/match-ups Schofield & Rotham cover the talls at the moment and Frankie & Cole cover the others

Maybe the Midfield as a Patrick Cripps doppelganger :D :D

Even if named round 1 the question is will he play 3 games - IMO he is not a SC option for 2020
(May he prove me wrong ... please)

Yeah man I am not sure where he plays either. Can’t play forward given we will rest hickey/nicnat there at times as well.
Don’t be surprised to see Allen go to defense instead of say Schofield though.
Brander was initially drafted as a player that could play forward or back. He has high footy IQ.
His 2 games thus far were against the cats at gmhba and lions at the Gabba so he hasn’t had much opportunity at all.

My initial feeling on brander was that by round 8-10 when the loyalty novelty to Kennedy wore off that brander would step in for him but given the strength of Kennedy and branders preseasons I’m pretty sure they looking to play both. Branders only possible spot is the wing rotation imo with sheed/redden rotating with our power mids from
The bench.
Interesting times
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 19, 2020, 10:00:00 AM

Yeah eagles have great depth. I won’t be surprised to see him play round 1, we have to start playing this bloke as way too talented to ignore. I still Give brander probably more chance than some of these other rookies people think are going to play.

I reckon he plays round 1 for sure but would wanna have a cracker otherwise he’s first out.
Gotta remember this is a guy they refused to give up in trades for Tim Kelly as they valued him greater than a single first round draft pick either this/next year.

Note- might be my bias talking but I absolutely love this bloke and think he will be not only a handy player but a future star of the competition
As a WCE supporter I agree but unless he is on ground this year that equals ZERO SC points
They will need to give him a taste, more than a taste soon - But where does he play???

He is 195cm (21yo) listed as a key forward - 2 games for 35 SC points a game

While touted as a successor for JK (196 cm 32 yo going 33) others such as Waterman (191cm, 21yo, 13 games) and Allen (191cm 20yo, 23 matches) have taken their chances when given

Can not see him in the forward line, unless forbid, injury or JK is "rested". Too big and will upset the balance

Not as a backman either IMO - depending on injury/match-ups Schofield & Rotham cover the talls at the moment and Frankie & Cole cover the others

Maybe the Midfield as a Patrick Cripps doppelganger :D :D

Even if named round 1 the question is will he play 3 games - IMO he is not a SC option for 2020
(May he prove me wrong ... please)

Yeah man I am not sure where he plays either. Can’t play forward given we will rest hickey/nicnat there at times as well.
Don’t be surprised to see Allen go to defense instead of say Schofield though.
Brander was initially drafted as a player that could play forward or back. He has high footy IQ.
His 2 games thus far were against the cats at gmhba and lions at the Gabba so he hasn’t had much opportunity at all.

My initial feeling on brander was that by round 8-10 when the loyalty novelty to Kennedy wore off that brander would step in for him but given the strength of Kennedy and branders preseasons I’m pretty sure they looking to play both. Branders only possible spot is the wing rotation imo with sheed/redden rotating with our power mids from
The bench.
Interesting times
That's what they are saying on the AFL site today the exact words " Brander has impressed over the summer and looks set to be used as a big bodied wingman " don't know if that means just for the preseason comp or the season proper.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 19, 2020, 04:03:14 PM

Yeah eagles have great depth. I won’t be surprised to see him play round 1, we have to start playing this bloke as way too talented to ignore. I still Give brander probably more chance than some of these other rookies people think are going to play.

I reckon he plays round 1 for sure but would wanna have a cracker otherwise he’s first out.
Gotta remember this is a guy they refused to give up in trades for Tim Kelly as they valued him greater than a single first round draft pick either this/next year.

Note- might be my bias talking but I absolutely love this bloke and think he will be not only a handy player but a future star of the competition
As a WCE supporter I agree but unless he is on ground this year that equals ZERO SC points
They will need to give him a taste, more than a taste soon - But where does he play???

He is 195cm (21yo) listed as a key forward - 2 games for 35 SC points a game

While touted as a successor for JK (196 cm 32 yo going 33) others such as Waterman (191cm, 21yo, 13 games) and Allen (191cm 20yo, 23 matches) have taken their chances when given

Can not see him in the forward line, unless forbid, injury or JK is "rested". Too big and will upset the balance

Not as a backman either IMO - depending on injury/match-ups Schofield & Rotham cover the talls at the moment and Frankie & Cole cover the others

Maybe the Midfield as a Patrick Cripps doppelganger :D :D

Even if named round 1 the question is will he play 3 games - IMO he is not a SC option for 2020
(May he prove me wrong ... please)

Yeah man I am not sure where he plays either. Can’t play forward given we will rest hickey/nicnat there at times as well.
Don’t be surprised to see Allen go to defense instead of say Schofield though.
Brander was initially drafted as a player that could play forward or back. He has high footy IQ.
His 2 games thus far were against the cats at gmhba and lions at the Gabba so he hasn’t had much opportunity at all.

My initial feeling on brander was that by round 8-10 when the loyalty novelty to Kennedy wore off that brander would step in for him but given the strength of Kennedy and branders preseasons I’m pretty sure they looking to play both. Branders only possible spot is the wing rotation imo with sheed/redden rotating with our power mids from
The bench.
Interesting times
That's what they are saying on the AFL site today the exact words " Brander has impressed over the summer and looks set to be used as a big bodied wingman " don't know if that means just for the preseason comp or the season proper.

Haha well there ya go. I don’t mind it at all. I seriously think he will line up round 1 for sure and if that’s the case the eagles will definitely give him 3 games in a row so that he can find his feet.

I reckon we can lock him in folks.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 20, 2020, 07:18:11 AM
"We're taking (the) Marsh (Series) pretty seriously because we've only got two hitouts before the start of the season," Fagan said.

"We're probably going to play 22-24 in those games so that makes it harder to play some of our young guys. By and large we'll be playing what we think our best team is in both games."

Based off those comments, if the likes of Starcevich and Skinner play in Marsh that makes them high chances to play Round 1

Put a line through DevRob - hopefully a nice downgrade target

The Lions' first pick at last year's NAB AFL Draft Deven Robertson is expected to miss at least the first Marsh Series match after a quad setback in recent weeks that has put him behind back in the pecking order for round one.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 20, 2020, 10:43:10 AM
Rookie small forward Brad Close will push his case to become Geelong's fourth consecutive mature-age debutant in a season-opener when he faces Gold Coast on Saturday.

He'll be joined by second-year pair Ben Jarvis and Jacob Kennerley and the Cats' first pick in last year's NAB AFL Draft Cooper Stephens for the trip north.

Following the success of Tom Stewart (2017), Tim Kelly (2018) and Tom Atkins (2019) in securing round one debuts, the Cats are contemplating Close for the clash against Greater Western Sydney on March 21.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2020, 06:09:25 PM
Just read that Brander was playing on the wing and pushing to half back in the teams intra today

He also kicked the first goal of the match, and "looked lively"
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 22, 2020, 08:40:50 PM
Don’t think he will be a big scorer but this budarick looks pretty good. Maybe a chance of a guernsey
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 22, 2020, 08:41:54 PM
If he wasn’t already Rowell an absolute lock!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on February 22, 2020, 08:50:46 PM
Budarick also a lock if named Rd 1 at 106k.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 22, 2020, 09:26:54 PM
Don’t think he will be a big scorer but this budarick looks pretty good. Maybe a chance of a guernsey

He's been touted as a chance for Round 1 even before tonight

Would be an absolute gift for us if he lines up, and should be a decent scorer too I reckon, for a rookie
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: tommy10 on February 22, 2020, 10:21:40 PM
Don’t think he will be a big scorer but this budarick looks pretty good. Maybe a chance of a guernsey

He's been touted as a chance for Round 1 even before tonight

Would be an absolute gift for us if he lines up, and should be a decent scorer too I reckon, for a rookie
DPP too which makes him even more attractive!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on February 23, 2020, 02:13:24 AM
Tom Williamson was in the best for Carlton in the practice match the other day. From what I read he played a lot of the wing which could be interesting. It looks like he could push Newman for a spot, but in reality it could be Simmo that gets squeezed out. Doc also was in the best and had a nice little spin which showed the knee was 100%.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 23, 2020, 10:19:39 AM
Think McHenry is long odds for our teams ... didn’t take the eye at all for mine. Slim pickings
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 23, 2020, 06:06:26 PM
Tom Williamson was in the best for Carlton in the practice match the other day. From what I read he played a lot of the wing which could be interesting. It looks like he could push Newman for a spot, but in reality it could be Simmo that gets squeezed out. Doc also was in the best and had a nice little spin which showed the knee was 100%.
IMO, Simmo and Newman both comfortably locked in Carltons 22.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 23, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
Tom Williamson was in the best for Carlton in the practice match the other day. From what I read he played a lot of the wing which could be interesting. It looks like he could push Newman for a spot, but in reality it could be Simmo that gets squeezed out. Doc also was in the best and had a nice little spin which showed the knee was 100%.
IMO, Simmo and Newman both comfortably locked in Carltons 22.

Absolutely 0% chance simmo(if fit) is left out round 1.
And Williamson is 100% behind Newman.

That being said I have always liked something about Williamson so would be nice to see him get up.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 23, 2020, 07:45:23 PM
Yeah that's really surprising to hear you say that Mat - Simmo and Newman are best 22 and it's not even close

As for rookies, Starcevich putting up 40SC from 45% TOG and Georgiades going 35SC from 49% TOG both looked very good
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on February 23, 2020, 08:25:01 PM
Simmo will play round 1. However I'm not sure he will be there come round 5. I love him, but I'm worried there will be a decline at some point. Newman was apparently awful in the practice game but I think he will also line up round 1. If he still dips in form and Willo kills it that spot is his.

Samo is having issues with his quad and Marchbank is coming out of a brace. If they both miss round 1 that's a wing and half back spot available.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 23, 2020, 09:39:09 PM
I hope Williamson gets up cos it solves a lot of issues.

I think we in big trouble with starcevich and McHenry.

Attention turns to brander Thursday night now.

Need to see something from Stephens/ling/Gould

My team literally has one of Stephens/bonar/seeing on my midfield bench at the moment and McHenry there placeholding.

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 23, 2020, 11:00:48 PM
Think McHenry is long odds for our teams ... didn’t take the eye at all for mine. Slim pickings

42 % game time is his issue. Didn't think he was ugly by any means. He could of scored 75-80 on a full game and I won't sneeze at that for a rookie.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on February 24, 2020, 12:09:56 AM
Budarick should be a lock and I think Close might've actually done enough too. Espeically given Scott loves his mature age rookies.

Otherwise, slim pickings on all lines...the expensive rooks might be the go this season. Which means we'll need to free up some money somewhere.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on February 26, 2020, 01:46:12 PM
Budarick should be a lock and I think Close might've actually done enough too. Espeically given Scott loves his mature age rookies.

Otherwise, slim pickings on all lines...the expensive rooks might be the go this season. Which means we'll need to free up some money somewhere.

Agree 100%. This has been my feeling all along.

I currently have six 180K - 210K Rookies + Brander & Georgiadis (130K - 135K).

Absolutely insane! I've never allocated this much cash to my Rookies. But I feel this is the play this season.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jvalles69 on February 26, 2020, 02:14:28 PM
I'm hoping there are enough cheapish mid rooks so I can pass on Anderson.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 26, 2020, 04:52:03 PM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 26, 2020, 04:55:44 PM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.

Dimma has already said that they're really happy with RCD but that he also needs more time to develop, so a downgrade target later seems more likley

NFI about Jones tbh - might get a chance with Joe being cooked, but will likely be another 40ish avg type KPP forward
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 26, 2020, 05:35:09 PM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.

Dimma has already said that they're really happy with RCD but that he also needs more time to develop, so a downgrade target later seems more likley

NFI about Jones tbh - might get a chance with Joe being cooked, but will likely be another 40ish avg type KPP forward
From a coach that played a first gamer in a GF , you never know.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 26, 2020, 06:14:27 PM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.

Dimma has already said that they're really happy with RCD but that he also needs more time to develop, so a downgrade target later seems more likley

NFI about Jones tbh - might get a chance with Joe being cooked, but will likely be another 40ish avg type KPP forward
From a coach that played a first gamer in a GF , you never know.

Marlion is a 27 year old mature aged player

RCD is a kid, and when the coach publicly says he still needs to work on things you'd have to think he isn't lining up Round 1

Brandon Zerk-Thatcher looking like being a good chance of playing Round 1 for Essendon, with Ambrose injured

189k though
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 26, 2020, 06:32:56 PM
A few rookies getting a chance to impress in the Eagles Bombers game good to see.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: AaronKirk on February 26, 2020, 08:12:32 PM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.

Dimma has already said that they're really happy with RCD but that he also needs more time to develop, so a downgrade target later seems more likley

NFI about Jones tbh - might get a chance with Joe being cooked, but will likely be another 40ish avg type KPP forward
From a coach that played a first gamer in a GF , you never know.

Marlion is a 27 year old mature aged player

RCD is a kid, and when the coach publicly says he still needs to work on things you'd have to think he isn't lining up Round 1

Brandon Zerk-Thatcher looking like being a good chance of playing Round 1 for Essendon, with Ambrose injured

189k though

Essendon could have quite a few rookies in R1 given the number of injuries we have. It's that bad I'd like to see us play all the kids this year and mould them into the game plan that Rutten wants to implement from 2021. This year is pretty much a write off.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: crowls on February 26, 2020, 08:48:15 PM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.

Dimma has already said that they're really happy with RCD but that he also needs more time to develop, so a downgrade target later seems more likley

NFI about Jones tbh - might get a chance with Joe being cooked, but will likely be another 40ish avg type KPP forward
From a coach that played a first gamer in a GF , you never know.

Marlion is a 27 year old mature aged player

RCD is a kid, and when the coach publicly says he still needs to work on things you'd have to think he isn't lining up Round 1

Brandon Zerk-Thatcher looking like being a good chance of playing Round 1 for Essendon, with Ambrose injured

189k though

Essendon could have quite a few rookies in R1 given the number of injuries we have. It's that bad I'd like to see us play all the kids this year and mould them into the game plan that Rutten wants to implement from 2021. This year is pretty much a write off.
feel he same way AK,  rather see us moving forward
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 07:33:01 AM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.

According to that article, this is who they say are a chance to play Round 1: (Keep in mind this was just for last years draftees)

Adelaide: McAsey
Brisbane: -
Carlton: Philp
Collingwood: -
Essendon: Jones
Fremantle: Serong & Young**
Geelong: -
Gold Coast: Rowell, Anderson & Budarick
GWS: Ash & Green
Hawthorn: -
Melbourne: Pickett
North: -
Port: Georgiades
Richmond: -
St Kilda: -
Sydney: Stephens & Gould
West Coast: Treacy
WBD: -

Not a whole let there. I see so many teams with Rivers, Robertson, Bianco, Maginness & Mead and it sounds like none of them are a chance so you might want to rejig things to be more realistic

Of course that article is just a few peoples opinion and we might see some players force their way in off strong Marsh matches but at this stage it's not looking great. A lot of those guys listed as chances will be poor scorers too

Interesting times
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 07:57:35 AM
Just my 2c, but this is who I would be using as rookie placeholders for now

DEF: Ash, Hill (FWD), Zerk-Thatcher, McAsey, Young*, Starcevich, Brander, Gould
DEF Smokies: Williamson, Butts, Greaves, Ling, McBride

Can't see many cheap def rookies lining up Round 1 - I'd probably go with Brander & Gould for bench for now, with more expensive ones on field

MID: Rowell, Anderson, Bonar (FWD), Stephens, Serong, Caldwell/Green, Pickett, Philp, Budarick
MID Smokies: McHenry, Warner

Just like the backline, I reckon we might have to fork out and start multiple expensive mid rookies. For now, I've gone with Budarick, Philp and McHenry as my bench, and it's looking like Pickett is the only cheap guy to start on field, meaning M7 needs to be an expensive rookie

FWD: Bonar (MID), Hill (DEF), Pickett, Brander (DEF), Georgiades, King, Rankine*, Jones, Budarick (MID)
FWD: Smokies: Weightman, McAdam, Xerri (RUC), Close (MID), Mahony (MID), Frederick, Treacy, Skinner

We shouldn't have a problem starting 4-5 rookies if that's what you choose to do, but a lot of these guys are going to be poor scorers that you won't want on field every week

Hill up front and Brander down back is what I'm going with for their DPP link, which could prove very handy based on who we have as options

* Rankine and Young currently injured - likely won't play Marsh 2 so could impact them being picked Round 1
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 27, 2020, 08:16:53 AM
Article on the AFL site today about this years rookies worth look Jones from the Bombers sounds a chance Collier - Dawkins from the Tiges might be a sneaky one after a year in the system.

According to that article, this is who they say are a chance to play Round 1: (Keep in mind this was just for last years draftees)

Adelaide: McAsey
Brisbane: -
Carlton: Philp
Collingwood: -
Essendon: Jones
Fremantle: Serong & Young**
Geelong: -
Gold Coast: Rowell, Anderson & Budarick
GWS: Ash & Green
Hawthorn: -
Melbourne: Pickett
North: -
Port: Georgiades
Richmond: -
St Kilda: -
Sydney: Stephens & Gould
West Coast: Treacy
WBD: -

Not a whole let there. I see so many teams with Rivers, Robertson, Bianco, Maginness & Mead and it sounds like none of them are a chance so you might want to rejig things to be more realistic

Of course that article is just a few peoples opinion and we might see some players force their way in off strong Marsh matches but at this stage it's not looking great. A lot of those guys listed as chances will be poor scorers too

Interesting times
Yeah looks a bit thin but they are only looking at players picked up last year I'm sure a few more will pop up from the previous years that have not managed to crack it for a game so far.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 08:25:19 AM
Yeah looks a bit thin but they are only looking at players picked up last year I'm sure a few more will pop up from the previous years that have not managed to crack it for a game so far.

I literally said that, then made a post including guys from the previous year ;)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 27, 2020, 08:48:51 AM
Yeah looks a bit thin but they are only looking at players picked up last year I'm sure a few more will pop up from the previous years that have not managed to crack it for a game so far.

I literally said that, then made a post including guys from the previous year ;)
Just a comment RD not trying to take away your title as FF resident expert  ;)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on February 27, 2020, 09:08:07 AM
So the upshot is we await anxiously round 1 to see which rookies get named and have a plan in place to get expensive rookies if required.
Will be an interesting ride, 
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 09:47:13 AM
Yeah looks a bit thin but they are only looking at players picked up last year I'm sure a few more will pop up from the previous years that have not managed to crack it for a game so far.

I literally said that, then made a post including guys from the previous year ;)
Just a comment RD not trying to take away your title as FF resident expert  ;)

 ::) :-X :P

No such thing as that title - was just odd to see you say what you said after I said that when listing the players already

Anyway, I think we're starting to get a pretty clear idea now of who is likely to line up Round 1, and I've set up my side accordingly
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 27, 2020, 10:07:26 AM
Rookies that played Rnd 1 2019 from the 2018 draft.

1. Sam Walsh $207,000
2. Jack Lukosius $202,000
3. Connor Rozee $189,000
4. Bailey Smith $180,000
5. Chayce Jones $171,000
6. Nick Blakey $166,000
7. Zac Butters $157,000
8. Jordan Clark $144,000
9. Xavier Duursma $130,000
10. Mathew Parker $117,000 mature aged
11. Bailey Scott $117,000
12. Marty Hore $117,000 mature aged
13. Lachlan Schultz $117,000 mature aged

 ::)
See the trend? Expensive rookies starting Rnd 1 is not a new thing. We may be lucky this season and get a couple of cheapies start .
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 27, 2020, 01:14:43 PM
Rookies that played Rnd 1 2019 from the 2018 draft.

1. Sam Walsh $207,000
2. Jack Lukosius $202,000
3. Connor Rozee $189,000
4. Bailey Smith $180,000
5. Chayce Jones $171,000
6. Nick Blakey $166,000
7. Zac Butters $157,000
8. Jordan Clark $144,000
9. Xavier Duursma $130,000
10. Mathew Parker $117,000 mature aged
11. Bailey Scott $117,000
12. Marty Hore $117,000 mature aged
13. Lachlan Schultz $117,000 mature aged

 ::)
See the trend? Expensive rookies starting Rnd 1 is not a new thing. We may be lucky this season and get a couple of cheapies start .
Although they weren't 2018 NAT Draftees, there was a bunch of other rookie priced options last year though:

Balta - $123,900 - 2017 NAT Draft
Gibbons - $102,400 - 2018/19 SPP
Drew - $123,900 - 2016 NAT Draft
Wilkie - $124,900 - 2018 Rookie Draft
Burgess - $123,900 - 2018 GC Mature Age Concession
Miers - $123,900 - 2017 NAT Draft
Atkins - $112,900 - 2018 Rookie Draft

If you look back over previous years theres always been enough cheap options to fill each line, and often theres more than we can fit in. It will be interesting to see if that remains the case this year.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 27, 2020, 02:17:33 PM
Rookies that played Rnd 1 2019 from the 2018 draft.

1. Sam Walsh $207,000
2. Jack Lukosius $202,000
3. Connor Rozee $189,000
4. Bailey Smith $180,000
5. Chayce Jones $171,000
6. Nick Blakey $166,000
7. Zac Butters $157,000
8. Jordan Clark $144,000
9. Xavier Duursma $130,000
10. Mathew Parker $117,000 mature aged
11. Bailey Scott $117,000
12. Marty Hore $117,000 mature aged
13. Lachlan Schultz $117,000 mature aged

 ::)
See the trend? Expensive rookies starting Rnd 1 is not a new thing. We may be lucky this season and get a couple of cheapies start .
Although they weren't 2018 NAT Draftees, there was a bunch of other rookie priced options last year though:

Balta - $123,900 - 2017 NAT Draft
Gibbons - $102,400 - 2018/19 SPP
Drew - $123,900 - 2016 NAT Draft
Wilkie - $124,900 - 2018 Rookie Draft
Burgess - $123,900 - 2018 GC Mature Age Concession
Miers - $123,900 - 2017 NAT Draft
Atkins - $112,900 - 2018 Rookie Draft

If you look back over previous years theres always been enough cheap options to fill each line, and often theres more than we can fit in. It will be interesting to see if that remains the case this year.

correct, welldone.

Your list is the good ones that made useful money for our teams and they have 1 thing in common, all mature aged.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 02:21:38 PM
Your list is the good ones that made useful money for our teams and they have 1 thing in common, all mature aged.

And there's no mature aged guys this year, other than Pickett, hence the likeliness we'll need to start several expensive rookies
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 27, 2020, 02:58:31 PM
Rookies that played Rnd 1 2019 from the 2018 draft.

1. Sam Walsh $207,000
2. Jack Lukosius $202,000
3. Connor Rozee $189,000
4. Bailey Smith $180,000
5. Chayce Jones $171,000
6. Nick Blakey $166,000
7. Zac Butters $157,000
8. Jordan Clark $144,000
9. Xavier Duursma $130,000
10. Mathew Parker $117,000 mature aged
11. Bailey Scott $117,000
12. Marty Hore $117,000 mature aged
13. Lachlan Schultz $117,000 mature aged

 ::)
See the trend? Expensive rookies starting Rnd 1 is not a new thing. We may be lucky this season and get a couple of cheapies start .
Although they weren't 2018 NAT Draftees, there was a bunch of other rookie priced options last year though:

Balta - $123,900 - 2017 NAT Draft
Gibbons - $102,400 - 2018/19 SPP
Drew - $123,900 - 2016 NAT Draft
Wilkie - $124,900 - 2018 Rookie Draft
Burgess - $123,900 - 2018 GC Mature Age Concession
Miers - $123,900 - 2017 NAT Draft
Atkins - $112,900 - 2018 Rookie Draft

If you look back over previous years theres always been enough cheap options to fill each line, and often theres more than we can fit in. It will be interesting to see if that remains the case this year.

correct, welldone.

Your list is the good ones that made useful money for our teams and they have 1 thing in common, all mature aged.
Agree there always seems to be a couple of unexpected players that pop up and we have only seen 5 matches out of 18 in the Marsh comp so think it will be the same as most years a blend of expensive and cheap rookies.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 02:59:17 PM
Keep an eye out for small forward Anthony treacy this afternoon. If he gets a full game I reckon he can be a round 1 bolter. A chance to take willie riolis spot.

Some of his games in the wafl last year were electrifying and the fact they told jermaine Jones to not train with the club tells me they found their man
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 03:36:22 PM
Keep an eye out for small forward Anthony treacy this afternoon. If he gets a full game I reckon he can be a round 1 bolter. A chance to take willie riolis spot.

Some of his games in the wafl last year were electrifying and the fact they told jermaine Jones to not train with the club tells me they found their man

Yep, certainly think he's a chance, but like most small forwards he will likely be a poor scorer

Seems we will have plenty of options for F7 & F8 - wouldn't mind a rookie or two that isn't an actual forward haha and could be field at F6 with confidence
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 27, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
Keep an eye out for small forward Anthony treacy this afternoon. If he gets a full game I reckon he can be a round 1 bolter. A chance to take willie riolis spot.

Some of his games in the wafl last year were electrifying and the fact they told jermaine Jones to not train with the club tells me they found their man

thanks, another to keep your eye on is what what North Melb does with the injured Kane Turner. Two mature agers in the mix, Xerri and Hosie, one should take his spot. (and improve the team ten fold)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 27, 2020, 04:39:35 PM
Your list is the good ones that made useful money for our teams and they have 1 thing in common, all mature aged.

And there's no mature aged guys this year, other than Pickett, hence the likeliness we'll need to start several expensive rookies

Not sure why this blokes been written off, but Jacob Kennerley seems to tick a few boxes. 56DT points in a half of football and mature aged. Could be just the type we're looking for. And his Coach loves mature agers.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 04:55:26 PM
Your list is the good ones that made useful money for our teams and they have 1 thing in common, all mature aged.

And there's no mature aged guys this year, other than Pickett, hence the likeliness we'll need to start several expensive rookies

Not sure why this blokes been written off, but Jacob Kennerley seems to tick a few boxes. 56DT points in a half of football and mature aged. Could be just the type we're looking for. And his Coach loves mature agers.

Yeah I missed him with the list I put up

Also just read an article on HS that suggested he could be a chance too - D/M DPP too I believe? Would be great if he can somehow get a gig, and could be a chance with Duncan injured still
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 09:06:32 PM
I have seen enough.

Bailey Williams will be the ruck partner to nicnat on the proviso they aren’t planning to use Oscar Allen as back up.

Already put him into my backline(ridiculous positioning for him)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 09:13:50 PM
I have seen enough.

Bailey Williams will be the ruck partner to nicnat on the proviso they aren’t planning to use Oscar Allen as back up.

Already put him into my backline(ridiculous positioning for him)

2 kicks, 3 handballs and 2 HO's in the first half, and you reckon that's enough for him to jump Hickey and Vardy?

Seems a little premature
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 09:55:42 PM
I have seen enough.

Bailey Williams will be the ruck partner to nicnat on the proviso they aren’t planning to use Oscar Allen as back up.

Already put him into my backline(ridiculous positioning for him)

2 kicks, 3 handballs and 2 HO's in the first half, and you reckon that's enough for him to jump Hickey and Vardy?

Seems a little premature

Vardy has been absolutely horrendous in this game. He will never play for the eagles again.

They played him a lot more forward that quarter. He didn’t play any back up ruck and the delivery forward was atrocious.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RoughRed on February 27, 2020, 09:56:11 PM
I have seen enough.

Bailey Williams will be the ruck partner to nicnat on the proviso they aren’t planning to use Oscar Allen as back up.

Already put him into my backline(ridiculous positioning for him)

2 kicks, 3 handballs and 2 HO's in the first half, and you reckon that's enough for him to jump Hickey and Vardy?

Seems a little premature
Maybe pre-mature eaglation???
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 09:57:07 PM
I have seen enough.

Bailey Williams will be the ruck partner to nicnat on the proviso they aren’t planning to use Oscar Allen as back up.

Already put him into my backline(ridiculous positioning for him)

2 kicks, 3 handballs and 2 HO's in the first half, and you reckon that's enough for him to jump Hickey and Vardy?

Seems a little premature
Maybe pre-mature eaglation???

Watch him this quarter starting in the ruck.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 10:03:00 PM
Telling ya now Williams is an absolute lock
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on February 27, 2020, 10:04:01 PM
He played a lot of ruck in the practice game as well. Probably between him and Hickey and Hickey is awful forward.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 10:13:19 PM
Williams again ... passed the eye test for sure... the white Nic nat
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 10:17:17 PM
Telling ya now Williams is an absolute lock

He's a chance. Not sure he's a lock. Like the look of him, so as a WCE fan I'm stoked

Oscar might keep him out



Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on February 27, 2020, 10:27:20 PM
Those starting with:

Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + 2 Rookies

How are you feeling about the Rookie options down back?

I'm concerned.

I know we need to see both rounds of Marsh, but...

If you work to the principle that Rookies determine structure, not Premiums... I'm seeing an argument for:

Prem + Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + Rookie

If someone can tell me four Rookies you're comfortable with (two onfield, two bench), I'd love to know them. I'm pretty sure we'll agree on three by Round 1, but four's a hope and a prayer.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 10:30:51 PM
Telling ya now Williams is an absolute lock

He's a chance. Not sure he's a lock. Like the look of him, so as a WCE fan I'm stoked

Oscar might keep him out

I would be shocked if he doesn’t line up round 1. Oscar would be the only reason but he is easily ahead of Vardy and I think hickey as well.

Brander has all the talent in the world but unfortunately I don’t see him getting a gig.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 10:36:19 PM
Williams been changed to a defender ruck in positioning as well.

My new rock 2 is bailey Williams !!!! I’m in love
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2020, 10:40:10 PM
Those starting with:

Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + 2 Rookies

How are you feeling about the Rookie options down back?

I'm concerned.

I know we need to see both rounds of Marsh, but...

If you work to the principle that Rookies determine structure, not Premiums... I'm seeing an argument for:

Prem + Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + Rookie

If someone can tell me four Rookies you're comfortable with (two onfield, two bench), I'd love to know them. I'm pretty sure we'll agree on three by Round 1, but four's a hope and a prayer.

1 of Ash/Young/McAsey/BZT at D5

Starcevich, Gould and 1 of Brander/Williams
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on February 27, 2020, 10:46:15 PM
Those starting with:

Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + 2 Rookies

How are you feeling about the Rookie options down back?

I'm concerned.

I know we need to see both rounds of Marsh, but...

If you work to the principle that Rookies determine structure, not Premiums... I'm seeing an argument for:

Prem + Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + Rookie

If someone can tell me four Rookies you're comfortable with (two onfield, two bench), I'd love to know them. I'm pretty sure we'll agree on three by Round 1, but four's a hope and a prayer.

Currently with Ash, Brander (Greaves, Gould) at D5-D8. Starcevich, Williamson and best name in the comp BJ Williams also on the list.

I actually feel pretty good about it too.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 27, 2020, 10:50:56 PM
Those starting with:

Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + 2 Rookies

How are you feeling about the Rookie options down back?

I'm concerned.

I know we need to see both rounds of Marsh, but...

If you work to the principle that Rookies determine structure, not Premiums... I'm seeing an argument for:

Prem + Prem + Prem + Docherty + Roberton + Rookie

If someone can tell me four Rookies you're comfortable with (two onfield, two bench), I'd love to know them. I'm pretty sure we'll agree on three by Round 1, but four's a hope and a prayer.

1 of Young/McAsey/BZT at D5

Starcevich, Gould and 1 of Brander/Williams

I’m picking young even though he is considered unlikely for round 1 - GUN ... I’ll bench him for early rounds.

So will start Williams and Gould on field.

I have extra cash allocated for mid rookies at present but if someone shows up I’m hoping to grab mcasey as well - he will play.

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 27, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
Williams been changed to a defender ruck in positioning as well.

My new rock 2 is bailey Williams !!!! I’m in love
When did they add ruck status to him I wonder. I swear he was defender only originally.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on February 28, 2020, 12:02:07 AM
Williams been changed to a defender ruck in positioning as well.

My new rock 2 is bailey Williams !!!! I’m in love
When did they add ruck status to him I wonder. I swear he was defender only originally.

Today

https://twitter.com/JesseDCaldera/status/1232839159804350465
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 28, 2020, 12:06:04 AM
Williams been changed to a defender ruck in positioning as well.

My new rock 2 is bailey Williams !!!! I’m in love
When did they add ruck status to him I wonder. I swear he was defender only originally.

Today

https://twitter.com/JesseDCaldera/status/1232839159804350465
Well I'll be. Didn't realise they could make additional position changes haha.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on February 28, 2020, 01:04:12 AM
I didn't see Brander at all. Like I mean I have no idea what he looks like because he either got 0 of the pill or he was pulled when I started watching. 11 touches from 72% TOG isn't great but he has another game to make a spot his.

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on February 28, 2020, 01:05:03 AM
Well I'll be. Didn't realise they could make additional position changes haha.

They did it with Blicavs a few years back
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on February 28, 2020, 08:39:05 AM
A couple of options for R3, Beejay and Xerri, one gets a gig, they're in. Nice
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: billnats on February 28, 2020, 09:28:08 PM
What’s the go with S. Hill at the moment? At that price would think there were more takers.

Injured?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: tkringle on February 28, 2020, 11:53:15 PM
What’s the go with S. Hill at the moment? At that price would think there were more takers.

Injured?

I just assumed he was a no brainer so not worth discussing.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on February 29, 2020, 08:14:04 AM
What’s the go with S. Hill at the moment? At that price would think there were more takers.

Injured?

I just assumed he was a no brainer so not worth discussing.
In 56% of teams that's fairly high.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Fid on February 29, 2020, 01:04:40 PM
Anyone had a good look at Tom Sparrow (Melb)?

7 kicks, 10 handballs, 7 tackles and 1 goal (77 points) from 60% game time
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: js19 on February 29, 2020, 01:29:43 PM
Anyone had a good look at Tom Sparrow (Melb)?

7 kicks, 10 handballs, 7 tackles and 1 goal from 60% game time

Very much on the radar if he gets a game.  Been getting some time around the ball. Might take Young’s place in my team via Hill
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 29, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
Sparrow looked real decent. Straight in if he gets a gig
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on February 29, 2020, 04:13:25 PM
I've seen enough of Gould already. That one contest alone probably gets him a gig round 1. Lock and load.

Caldwell looking good as well
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on February 29, 2020, 10:00:35 PM
Green> Serong > Stephens ... gotta get a game first though
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on February 29, 2020, 11:13:14 PM
Green> Serong > Stephens ... gotta get a game first though
No love for Anderson?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2020, 08:39:22 PM
If just 1 of Cameron or Xerri line up Round 1 that would be awesome

Start 1 at F6/8 and the non playing one at R3, having both a loophole and DPP

If both started, wowee - but even just 1 of them would be huge - wouldn't need to field a low scoring forward rookie too (Expect these guys, if playing, to score better than all of the other forward rookies we'll likely have)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Peter on March 01, 2020, 09:56:08 PM
Unfortunately dreaming RD - but agree with you
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: _wato on March 01, 2020, 10:29:51 PM
How will they likely be better scorers than fwd rookies when they both sit behind Grundy and Goldy? They’ll be lucky to play 5-10 mins of ruck a quarter. Their scores will be heavily influenced by goals as well.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Peter on March 01, 2020, 10:39:49 PM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 08:55:00 AM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 02, 2020, 09:00:42 AM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 02, 2020, 09:41:55 AM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?
Xerri has to be more of a chance when Grundy comes back it will be between Cameron and Cox and Cox looked pretty good yesterday Cameron will get his chance but think they will start with Cox , the answer might be clearer when we see who gets picked in their last Marsh game.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: sidvicious on March 02, 2020, 10:53:14 AM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?
Xerri has to be more of a chance when Grundy comes back it will be between Cameron and Cox and Cox looked pretty good yesterday Cameron will get his chance but think they will start with Cox , the answer might be clearer when we see who gets picked in their last Marsh game.
I think cameron might take Reids roll high half forward
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 02, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Is putting together a team with Williams-xerri-Cameron as the rucks a viable strategy this season you think?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on March 02, 2020, 11:12:42 AM
Is putting together a team with Williams-xerri-Cameron as the rucks a viable strategy this season you think?
I've been tossing around r2 permutations with Naismith and those 3. But you need Grundy for the doubled captain score
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 02, 2020, 11:21:19 AM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?
Xerri has to be more of a chance when Grundy comes back it will be between Cameron and Cox and Cox looked pretty good yesterday Cameron will get his chance but think they will start with Cox , the answer might be clearer when we see who gets picked in their last Marsh game.
I think cameron might take Reids roll high half forward
Maybe but that means basically 3 rucks ? Reid if he stays fit is a better FWD.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 11:39:33 AM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?

Ben Brown is apparently dealing with an injury, which might help Xerri and Mason Cox is rubbish as a ruck - Cameron can play ruck and forward and was huge on the weekend

Not saying their huge chances, but they're definitely in the mix and some sort of possibility to play Round 1

Either way, I'd be taking them over any other fwd rookie
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 02, 2020, 11:41:08 AM
Is putting together a team with Williams-xerri-Cameron as the rucks a viable strategy this season you think?
I've been tossing around r2 permutations with Naismith and those 3. But you need Grundy for the doubled captain score

Grundy’s minutes might get eaten into.  :o
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Peter on March 02, 2020, 12:17:11 PM
The minutes getting eaten into won’t be Grundy - I think will be Reid and Cox (if they play at all)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 02, 2020, 12:43:01 PM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?

Ben Brown is apparently dealing with an injury, which might help Xerri and Mason Cox is rubbish as a ruck - Cameron can play ruck and forward and was huge on the weekend

Not saying their huge chances, but they're definitely in the mix and some sort of possibility to play Round 1

Either way, I'd be taking them over any other fwd rookie

Guaranteed you won’t pick Darcy Cameron ahead of the forward rookies come round 1.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 01:40:51 PM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?

Ben Brown is apparently dealing with an injury, which might help Xerri and Mason Cox is rubbish as a ruck - Cameron can play ruck and forward and was huge on the weekend

Not saying their huge chances, but they're definitely in the mix and some sort of possibility to play Round 1

Either way, I'd be taking them over any other fwd rookie

Guaranteed you won’t pick Darcy Cameron ahead of the forward rookies come round 1.

If he's named, of course I would. Everybody would, not sure what you're on about

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: tommy10 on March 02, 2020, 01:52:24 PM
Because Cameron/Xerri will score better than King/Georgiades/Brander/Rankine as their limited ruckwork and forward scoring ability will prevail - in our opinion

Exactly. They're both much older and developed bodies too

I'll take the tall mature aged forward/ruc who's spending a bit of time in the ruck, vs the 18-19 year old forward who'll barely step outside their 50

Ok have I missed something?

Do people think Xerri and Cameron are actually going to play?

Ben Brown is apparently dealing with an injury, which might help Xerri and Mason Cox is rubbish as a ruck - Cameron can play ruck and forward and was huge on the weekend

Not saying their huge chances, but they're definitely in the mix and some sort of possibility to play Round 1

Either way, I'd be taking them over any other fwd rookie

Guaranteed you won’t pick Darcy Cameron ahead of the forward rookies come round 1.

If he's named, of course I would. Everybody would, not sure what you're on about
I think everyone will be praying to the SC gods for Cameron and Xerri to play round 1
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: coglan13 on March 02, 2020, 02:02:18 PM
Bucks said some good words about Cameron. He is ahead of Cox at this stage. I can't see both Cox and Cameron in the same team unless Brody goes down.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 02:45:42 PM
Collingwood’s bargain recruit Darcy Cameron is eyeing off a round 1 debut, threatening Mason Cox’s spot after an impressive hit out in the ruck against Richmond in Wangaratta.

Determined not to take his AFL lifeline for granted, Nathan Buckley said Cameron’s performance has been a big strength to the side, finishing the Richmond game with two goals, 12 disposals and four tackles, further edging his way closer to face the Western Bulldogs on March 20.

“It’ll be nice to get out there again and hopefully play four quarters of football and get ready for round 1.”
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 02, 2020, 03:00:10 PM
Collingwood’s bargain recruit Darcy Cameron is eyeing off a round 1 debut, threatening Mason Cox’s spot after an impressive hit out in the ruck against Richmond in Wangaratta.

Determined not to take his AFL lifeline for granted, Nathan Buckley said Cameron’s performance has been a big strength to the side, finishing the Richmond game with two goals, 12 disposals and four tackles, further edging his way closer to face the Western Bulldogs on March 20.

“It’ll be nice to get out there again and hopefully play four quarters of football and get ready for round 1.”
With Grundy Cox Cameron Mihocek Reid some thing has to give Pies backline looks full with Moore and Howe to come back in and can only see 2 of the above playing with Grundy lets see who gets the chop for their second game.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 02, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
Collingwood’s bargain recruit Darcy Cameron is eyeing off a round 1 debut, threatening Mason Cox’s spot after an impressive hit out in the ruck against Richmond in Wangaratta.

Determined not to take his AFL lifeline for granted, Nathan Buckley said Cameron’s performance has been a big strength to the side, finishing the Richmond game with two goals, 12 disposals and four tackles, further edging his way closer to face the Western Bulldogs on March 20.

“It’ll be nice to get out there again and hopefully play four quarters of football and get ready for round 1.”
With Grundy Cox Cameron Mihocek Reid some thing has to give Pies backline looks full with Moore and Howe to come back in and can only see 2 of the above playing with Grundy lets see who gets the chop for their second game.
Really doubt they'll play Cameron and Cox.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 04:59:44 PM
Young a chance to line up for Freo this week - just needs to get through training

Bonar cleared of having any issues with hammy tightness
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 02, 2020, 05:24:34 PM
Young a chance to line up for Freo this week - just needs to get through training

Bonar cleared of having any issues with hammy tightness

May not need him after all. Damon Greaves looks a lock now after injuries
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 08:07:19 PM
Young a chance to line up for Freo this week - just needs to get through training

Bonar cleared of having any issues with hammy tightness

May not need him after all. Damon Greaves looks a lock now after injuries

All of a sudden, looking like we might actually be able to go with 4 cheap def rookies

Starcevich, Greaves, Brander, Williams, Gould and even Kennerley/Watson could all be Round 1 options

I'm quite comfortable having Starcevich at D5, with Greaves, Gould and 1 of Williams/Brander as place-holders for now

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 02, 2020, 08:18:01 PM
Young a chance to line up for Freo this week - just needs to get through training

Bonar cleared of having any issues with hammy tightness

May not need him after all. Damon Greaves looks a lock now after injuries

All of a sudden, looking like we might actually be able to go with 4 cheap def rookies

Starcevich, Greaves, Brander, Williams, Gould and even Kennerley/Watson could all be Round 1 options

I'm quite comfortable having Starcevich at D5, with Greaves, Gould and 1 of Williams/Brander as place-holders for now

I don’t have starcevich best 25 ... I liked greaves in marsh 1 and due to injury he’s in, Gould in Williams in for sure maybe brander otherwise young
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 02, 2020, 08:40:58 PM
Need to see what Brisbane do with Starcevich in Marsh 2. Only played half a game and if he does not start highly unlikely he will start Rd 1.
McAsey is virtually confirmed in Crows best 22 and Greaves could be the beneficiary of Hardwicks injury.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 09:20:10 PM
I think with Starcevich I have him there more as a place-holder for the $$$ it allocates to that spot - shouldn't be too hard to find 30k to turn him into one of the expensive guys

Butts and Keane were the other two I forgot to mention - both in the mix too

All of a sudden it's the mids where things are still quite unclear. Other than Pickett and possibly Budarick, I'm still not loving any of the cheap bench options yet
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Peter on March 02, 2020, 09:24:29 PM
Greaves not mentioned by Clarkson today
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 02, 2020, 10:15:26 PM
Greaves not mentioned by Clarkson today

If you're referring to the article on afl.com.au, it doesn't look like he mentioned anyone tbh

The writer of the article suggested Scrimshaw, but then went on to say that if they did that none of their back 6 would be under 189cm, so he then said "The other options are the exciting Jiath (185cm), Harry Morrison (180cm), first-round draft pick Will Day (189cm) or possibly rookie Damon Greaves (186cm)."

Guess we'll find out soon enough
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 03, 2020, 08:55:37 AM
Yep it is interesting that as preseason progresses rookie availability changes daily and moves from line to line. Like RD low end mid priced rookies starting to give concern.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: quinny88 on March 03, 2020, 01:38:07 PM
Young a chance to line up for Freo this week - just needs to get through training

Bonar cleared of having any issues with hammy tightness

May not need him after all. Damon Greaves looks a lock now after injuries

All of a sudden, looking like we might actually be able to go with 4 cheap def rookies

Starcevich, Greaves, Brander, Williams, Gould and even Kennerley/Watson could all be Round 1 options

I'm quite comfortable having Starcevich at D5, with Greaves, Gould and 1 of Williams/Brander as place-holders for now

I don’t have starcevich best 25 ... I liked greaves in marsh 1 and due to injury he’s in, Gould in Williams in for sure maybe brander otherwise young

What willaims are you referring to? Have i been sleeping under a rock?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: crowls on March 03, 2020, 01:48:41 PM
If just 1 of Cameron or Xerri line up Round 1 that would be awesome

Start 1 at F6/8 and the non playing one at R3, having both a loophole and DPP

If both started, wowee - but even just 1 of them would be huge - wouldn't need to field a low scoring forward rookie too (Expect these guys, if playing, to score better than all of the other forward rookies we'll likely have)


Had Xerri and Cameron in my team for quite a while now,  being an optimist.   Don't think Xerri will play unless Goldy is injured.   Cameron will depend on structure of Collingwood's team and what side of bed NB gets out of bed on.  Cannot see Cox and Cameron playing together unless Grundy is out and if that is the case we are all in shower.   
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jvalles69 on March 03, 2020, 02:07:16 PM
Young a chance to line up for Freo this week - just needs to get through training

Bonar cleared of having any issues with hammy tightness

May not need him after all. Damon Greaves looks a lock now after injuries

All of a sudden, looking like we might actually be able to go with 4 cheap def rookies

Starcevich, Greaves, Brander, Williams, Gould and even Kennerley/Watson could all be Round 1 options

I'm quite comfortable having Starcevich at D5, with Greaves, Gould and 1 of Williams/Brander as place-holders for now

I don’t have starcevich best 25 ... I liked greaves in marsh 1 and due to injury he’s in, Gould in Williams in for sure maybe brander otherwise young

What willaims are you referring to? Have i been sleeping under a rock?

Would be West Coast back up ruck.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 03, 2020, 05:28:54 PM
If just 1 of Cameron or Xerri line up Round 1 that would be awesome

Start 1 at F6/8 and the non playing one at R3, having both a loophole and DPP

If both started, wowee - but even just 1 of them would be huge - wouldn't need to field a low scoring forward rookie too (Expect these guys, if playing, to score better than all of the other forward rookies we'll likely have)


Had Xerri and Cameron in my team for quite a while now,  being an optimist.   Don't think Xerri will play unless Goldy is injured.   Cameron will depend on structure of Collingwood's team and what side of bed NB gets out of bed on.  Cannot see Cox and Cameron playing together unless Grundy is out and if that is the case we are all in shower.

North will have two possible openings in the fwd line, Benny brown with a calf atm and Kane turner with maybe a season ender. So I think if Brown don’t getup rnd  1, he’s a good chance.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 03, 2020, 05:38:38 PM
If just 1 of Cameron or Xerri line up Round 1 that would be awesome

Start 1 at F6/8 and the non playing one at R3, having both a loophole and DPP

If both started, wowee - but even just 1 of them would be huge - wouldn't need to field a low scoring forward rookie too (Expect these guys, if playing, to score better than all of the other forward rookies we'll likely have)


Had Xerri and Cameron in my team for quite a while now,  being an optimist.   Don't think Xerri will play unless Goldy is injured.   Cameron will depend on structure of Collingwood's team and what side of bed NB gets out of bed on.  Cannot see Cox and Cameron playing together unless Grundy is out and if that is the case we are all in shower.

North will have two possible openings in the fwd line, Benny brown with a calf atm and Kane turner with maybe a season ender. So I think if Brown don’t getup rnd  1, he’s a good chance.
Jack Mahony a chance to grab turner's spot?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 03, 2020, 06:42:17 PM
If just 1 of Cameron or Xerri line up Round 1 that would be awesome

Start 1 at F6/8 and the non playing one at R3, having both a loophole and DPP

If both started, wowee - but even just 1 of them would be huge - wouldn't need to field a low scoring forward rookie too (Expect these guys, if playing, to score better than all of the other forward rookies we'll likely have)


Had Xerri and Cameron in my team for quite a while now,  being an optimist.   Don't think Xerri will play unless Goldy is injured.   Cameron will depend on structure of Collingwood's team and what side of bed NB gets out of bed on.  Cannot see Cox and Cameron playing together unless Grundy is out and if that is the case we are all in shower.

North will have two possible openings in the fwd line, Benny brown with a calf atm and Kane turner with maybe a season ender. So I think if Brown don’t getup rnd  1, he’s a good chance.
Jack Mahony a chance to grab turner's spot?

Has to be, along with Hosie and Taylor. I have Mahony on the bench atm. This weeks marsh game should give us answers
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 03, 2020, 10:16:16 PM
Keep an eye out for small forward Anthony treacy this afternoon. If he gets a full game I reckon he can be a round 1 bolter. A chance to take willie riolis spot.

Some of his games in the wafl last year were electrifying and the fact they told jermaine Jones to not train with the club tells me they found their man

We just signed Jones  :o
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RoughRed on March 03, 2020, 10:32:10 PM
Keep an eye out for small forward Anthony treacy this afternoon. If he gets a full game I reckon he can be a round 1 bolter. A chance to take willie riolis spot.

Some of his games in the wafl last year were electrifying and the fact they told jermaine Jones to not train with the club tells me they found their man

We just signed Jones  :o
Wow ...  thought he (JJ) was gone
As to ATreacy is not Cameron in the mix too!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 03, 2020, 10:37:55 PM
Keep an eye out for small forward Anthony treacy this afternoon. If he gets a full game I reckon he can be a round 1 bolter. A chance to take willie riolis spot.

Some of his games in the wafl last year were electrifying and the fact they told jermaine Jones to not train with the club tells me they found their man

We just signed Jones  :o
Wow ...  thought he (JJ) was gone
As to ATreacy is not Cameron in the mix too!

Cameron injured
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 04, 2020, 08:42:20 AM
HS suggesting that Keane (DEF) and CCJ (RUC) could be in line to play Round 1

With Nank nearing recovery I wouldn't pay 195k for CCJ, but Keane did look good on the weekend - hopefully he puts in another strong outing this weekend
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 04, 2020, 10:18:39 AM
HS suggesting that Keane (DEF) and CCJ (RUC) could be in line to play Round 1

With Nank nearing recovery I wouldn't pay 195k for CCJ, but Keane did look good on the weekend - hopefully he puts in another strong outing this weekend

Keane seems like a great prospect, but would they play him if Roughead and Moore are fit?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Locinator on March 04, 2020, 11:25:47 AM
Hey all,

I'm sure a few of these will pop up over the next two weeks, but I put together a spreadsheet with all the Marsh Round 1 Scores, TOG and PPM for all the potentially relevant rookies for round 1. I calculated PPM assuming the games ran for 120 minutes I could not find player minutes stats.

You can sort the columns based on any stat you like. If you've noticed any errors or missing players, let me know and I'll fix it up.

Cheers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pZluggQqZ6_OWY14PKaaeBmZKiO2cd-XQRk4k8WtPe8/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 04, 2020, 11:52:17 AM
Hey all,

I'm sure a few of these will pop up over the next two weeks, but I put together a spreadsheet with all the Marsh Round 1 Scores, TOG and PPM for all the potentially relevant rookies for round 1. I calculated PPM assuming the games ran for 120 minutes I could not find player minutes stats.

You can sort the columns based on any stat you like. If you've noticed any errors or missing players, let me know and I'll fix it up.

Cheers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pZluggQqZ6_OWY14PKaaeBmZKiO2cd-XQRk4k8WtPe8/edit?usp=sharing
Good stuff
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jvalles69 on March 04, 2020, 11:53:19 AM
Hey all,

I'm sure a few of these will pop up over the next two weeks, but I put together a spreadsheet with all the Marsh Round 1 Scores, TOG and PPM for all the potentially relevant rookies for round 1. I calculated PPM assuming the games ran for 120 minutes I could not find player minutes stats.

You can sort the columns based on any stat you like. If you've noticed any errors or missing players, let me know and I'll fix it up.

Cheers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pZluggQqZ6_OWY14PKaaeBmZKiO2cd-XQRk4k8WtPe8/edit?usp=sharing
Good stuff

Thanks mate!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RoughRed on March 04, 2020, 04:21:44 PM
Hey all,

I'm sure a few of these will pop up over the next two weeks, but I put together a spreadsheet with all the Marsh Round 1 Scores, TOG and PPM for all the potentially relevant rookies for round 1. I calculated PPM assuming the games ran for 120 minutes I could not find player minutes stats.

You can sort the columns based on any stat you like. If you've noticed any errors or missing players, let me know and I'll fix it up.

Cheers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pZluggQqZ6_OWY14PKaaeBmZKiO2cd-XQRk4k8WtPe8/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks for that!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2020, 12:33:30 PM
Herald Sun has just put up an article about what they think every side will look like in Round 1

In terms of the rookies/cheap options, this is who they have in

ADE: McAsey
BRI:
CAR: Williamson
COL: Noble
ESS: Zerk-Thatcher
FRE: Young & Serong
GC: Rowell, Anderson & Budarick
GWS: Green
HAW:
MEL: Pickett & Jackson
NTH: Bonar
POR: Georgiades
RIC: Pickett & CCJ
STK: King
SYD: Stephens
WCE: Williams
WBD:

Just their opinion of course - but considering they have Cole & Cameron in WCE's side when they're both injured, as well as several instances of players being listed twice, just highlights how little I rate their opinion but I thought I would still share it nevertheless
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2020, 05:16:41 PM
Rankine will be available for Round 1

Will just come down to selection
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2020, 09:16:24 PM
Here's the rookies named to play in Marsh 2

DEF: Greaves, McAsey, Butts, Hamill, McLennan, Brander (F), Edwards, Watson, Noble, Keane, Ash, Williamson, BZT, Starcevich*, Kennerley*, Jarvis*

MID: Rowell, Anderson, Budarick (F), Sharp, Serong, Green, Caldwell, Dow, Pickett, Robertson, Shipley*, RCD*, Rantall*, Philp*, Stephens*,

RUC: Jackson, Sweet, Cameron (F), CCJ (F), Biggy (D), TDK, Bryan*

FWD: Bedford, Crocker, Davis, Sturt, Georgiades, King, Smith (M), Skinner, McFadyen, Close (M), Briggs*, Hutcheson*

Young & Rankine should be available for Round 1, but miss this week. BJ Williams (WCE) is out injured this week too

North & Sydney yet to be named

* Extended bench Sunday
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: crowls on March 05, 2020, 09:30:51 PM
Gee looking bloody thin in the forwards and mids
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 06, 2020, 09:55:45 AM
Also a watch on Xerei if named this week for Kangasm
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2020, 10:00:33 AM
Also a watch on Xerei if named this week for Kangasm

Xerri, Mahoney and Bonar for the Roos

Gould & McInerney for Sydney

Hopefully they all play
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RoughRed on March 06, 2020, 10:45:40 AM
No Bailey Williams for wce this weekend- Hickey and Vardy both named to partner NN.
Brander on the bench
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2020, 09:35:05 PM
I'm going to update this over the weekend, and put a line through who I think isn't an option (based off this round), and bold who I think looks like being a chance and good pick for Round 1

DEF: Greaves, McAsey, Butts, Hamill, McLennan, Brander (F), Edwards, Watson, Noble, Keane, Ash, Williamson, BZT, Starcevich*, Kennerley*, Jarvis*, Gould*

MID: Rowell, Anderson, Budarick (F), Sharp, Serong, Green, Caldwell, Dow, Pickett, Robertson, Shipley*, RCD*, Rantall*, Philp*, Stephens*, Mahony (F)*, McInerney*, Stephens*, Warner*

RUC: Jackson, Sweet, Cameron (F), CCJ (F), Biggy (D), TDK, Bryan*, Xerri (F)*, Comben (F)*

FWD: Bedford, Crocker, Davis, Sturt, Georgiades, King, Smith (M), Skinner, McFadyen, Close (M), Briggs*, Hutcheson*

* Extended Bench
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Deadly6 on March 06, 2020, 10:06:01 PM
I'm going to update this over the weekend, and put a line through who I think isn't an option (based off this round), and bold who I think looks like being a chance and good pick for Round 1

DEF: Greaves, McAsey, Butts, Hamill, McLennan, Brander (F), Edwards, Watson, Noble, Keane, Ash, Williamson, BZT, Starcevich*, Kennerley*, Jarvis*, Gould*

MID: Rowell, Anderson, Budarick (F), Sharp, Serong, Green, Caldwell, Dow, Pickett, Robertson, Shipley*, RCD*, Rantall*, Philp*, Stephens*, Mahony (F)*, McInerney*, Stephens*, Warner*

RUC: Jackson, Sweet, Cameron (F), CCJ (F), Biggy (D), TDK, Bryan*, Xerri (F)*, Comben (F)*

FWD: Bedford, Crocker, Davis, Sturt, Georgiades, King, Smith (M), Skinner, McFadyen, Close (M), Briggs*, Hutcheson*

* Extended Bench

Gone a bit early on Jackson
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2020, 10:13:57 PM
Gone a bit early on Jackson

Scored 67, and most of that was in the second half when Gawn wasn't playing

Can't see him being a good pick at his price
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 06, 2020, 10:18:54 PM
Jackson also played a whopping 49% game time.

Mitch Brown might be the Weideman replacement so Jackson will likely play VFL to start.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Bones Bombers on March 06, 2020, 10:20:14 PM
Gone a bit early on Jackson

Scored 67, and most of that was in the second half when Gawn wasn't playing

Can't see him being a good pick at his price
Not sure if he’ll get many games but that 67 was in half a game.
Gawn scored 68 in half a game and that was great.
Not sure what you wanted from him?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2020, 10:20:40 PM
Jackson also played a whopping 49% game time.

Yeah, the 49% that Gawn didn't play. That's not happening when the real stuff begins
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2020, 10:22:35 PM
Gone a bit early on Jackson

Scored 67, and most of that was in the second half when Gawn wasn't playing

Can't see him being a good pick at his price
Not sure if he’ll get many games but that 67 was in half a game.
Gawn scored 68 in half a game and that was great.
Not sure what you wanted from him?

How is everyone not getting this haha

He's not going to score like that when Gawn is on the field

If you want to pay 200k for a R3 that will likely not play much, and not score well when he does, go for it
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 06, 2020, 10:25:21 PM
Gone a bit early on Jackson

Scored 67, and most of that was in the second half when Gawn wasn't playing

Can't see him being a good pick at his price
Not sure if he’ll get many games but that 67 was in half a game.
Gawn scored 68 in half a game and that was great.
Not sure what you wanted from him?

How is everyone not getting this haha

He's not going to score like that when Gawn is on the field

If you want to pay 200k for a R3 that will likely not play much, and not score well when he does, go for it

Impossible selection
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 06, 2020, 10:25:46 PM
Like what I saw of Sharp in the half he played, Budarick didn't do much but hopefully they both showed enough over the two games to get a nod for round one.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Bones Bombers on March 06, 2020, 10:29:39 PM
Gone a bit early on Jackson

Scored 67, and most of that was in the second half when Gawn wasn't playing

Can't see him being a good pick at his price
Not sure if he’ll get many games but that 67 was in half a game.
Gawn scored 68 in half a game and that was great.
Not sure what you wanted from him?

How is everyone not getting this haha

He's not going to score like that when Gawn is on the field

If you want to pay 200k for a R3 that will likely not play much, and not score well when he does, go for it
I’m not picking him so I obviously do get it but the kids very talented and scored as well as any other. I don’t even think he’s really a ruckman. Very athletic playing forward and around the ground. Looked good.
Not for my SC team at this point though.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 07, 2020, 12:23:43 PM
McAsey 47 from a full game and he kicked a goal just on 185K think he is a pass for me.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 07, 2020, 12:27:16 PM
Thank you RD for the updates from your list.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2020, 12:33:23 PM
Thank you RD for the updates from your list.

Cheers Ringo

Obviously just my own personal opinion so take it as you will, but for what it's worth I'm factoring in 3 things when making a call on each rookie

Scoring potential, JS and money making ability

I'm sure I'll make a few wrong calls but I'm going with it

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 07, 2020, 12:47:47 PM
Thank you RD for the updates from your list.

Cheers Ringo

Obviously just my own personal opinion so take it as you will, but for what it's worth I'm factoring in 3 things when making a call on each rookie

Scoring potential, JS and money making ability

I'm sure I'll make a few wrong calls but I'm going with it
As we all do RD. Just personal opinions and judgements you win some and you lose some. Forget who it was last year started Rd 1 and dropped for Rd 2 and not seen again.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 07, 2020, 01:43:47 PM
Thank you RD for the updates from your list.

Cheers Ringo

Obviously just my own personal opinion so take it as you will, but for what it's worth I'm factoring in 3 things when making a call on each rookie

Scoring potential, JS and money making ability

I'm sure I'll make a few wrong calls but I'm going with it
As we all do RD. Just personal opinions and judgements you win some and you lose some. Forget who it was last year started Rd 1 and dropped for Rd 2 and not seen again.

Sounds like Chayce Jones, he was shocking
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 07, 2020, 02:43:22 PM
I feel like Anderson is far from a sure thing. Doesn’t look ready for the big time yet. Not sure he’s a walk up starter.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2020, 02:44:40 PM
I feel like Anderson is far from a sure thing. Doesn’t look ready for the big time yet. Not sure he’s a walk up starter.

Yeah tbh, I wasn't going to make him bold, but felt like he didn't deserve to be striked out either

No chance I'd pick him, but felt like he probably shouldn't have been striked out
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on March 07, 2020, 04:54:19 PM
Yeah, thanks RD... for the time you put in. Legend, mate.

 :)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jbjimmyjb on March 07, 2020, 06:05:47 PM
No Gould for Marsh 2  :-[
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2020, 06:13:04 PM
Updated now that Sunday/Monday teams finalised

ABSOLUTE CARNAGE. Slim Pickings with a lot of popular rookies getting culled - if they're not playing this week (besides Young & Rankine) you'd have to think they're not playing Round 1

DEF: McAsey, Butts, Brander (F), Edwards, Watson, Noble, Keane, Ash, BZT, Starcevich, Kennerley

MID: Rowell, Anderson, Budarick (F), Sharp, Serong, Green, Caldwell, Dow, Pickett, Robertson, Philp, Mahony (F), McInerney, Stephens

RUC: Jackson, Cameron (F), CCJ (F), Biggy (D), TDK, Xerri (F)

FWD: Bedford, Crocker, Davis, Sturt, Georgiades, King

Bold: Possible on field option/bench option
Blue: Possible bench option
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Southstorm on March 07, 2020, 09:46:41 PM
Anyone know anything about Serong? Didn't see him all night and the stats sheet says he played but only 3 touches.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 07, 2020, 09:54:00 PM
Anyone know anything about Serong? Didn't see him all night and the stats sheet says he played but only 3 touches.

Came on late in the game which is why he barely touched the pill. I'd say he is fringe and probably doesn't get a game round 1. They didn't play Blakely or Matera, it looks like Acres is injured again and Aish didn't play either for some reason but would be a lock for round 1 if fit. Tobe Watson is the interesting one but his scoring has been meh. Looks to have played a lot in both games and didn't look iut of his depth.

Brander also looked pretty good this week. Looks like they'll give him a crack to lock down a spot so that's also pretty handy.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2020, 10:03:23 PM
Anyone know anything about Serong? Didn't see him all night and the stats sheet says he played but only 3 touches.

Came on late in the game which is why he barely touched the pill. I'd say he is fringe and probably doesn't get a game round 1. They didn't play Blakely or Matera, it looks like Acres is injured again and Aish didn't play either for some reason but would be a lock for round 1 if fit. Tobe Watson is the interesting one but his scoring has been meh. Looks to have played a lot in both games and didn't look iut of his depth.

Brander also looked pretty good this week. Looks like they'll give him a crack to lock down a spot so that's also pretty handy.

Aish and Ryan out with soreness

Blakely just didn't make the 26, so I'd cross him off your list

Jobe Incognito I marked as blue, and he's currently my D8 - doesn't score heaps, but as you said good TOG so hoping he gets up for D8

Apparently Longmuir just said that Hill felt something in his quad. LOL carnage!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: crowls on March 07, 2020, 10:07:32 PM
Anyone know anything about Serong? Didn't see him all night and the stats sheet says he played but only 3 touches.

Came on late in the game which is why he barely touched the pill. I'd say he is fringe and probably doesn't get a game round 1. They didn't play Blakely or Matera, it looks like Acres is injured again and Aish didn't play either for some reason but would be a lock for round 1 if fit. Tobe Watson is the interesting one but his scoring has been meh. Looks to have played a lot in both games and didn't look iut of his depth.

Brander also looked pretty good this week. Looks like they'll give him a crack to lock down a spot so that's also pretty handy.

Aish and Ryan out with soreness

Blakely just didn't make the 26, so I'd cross him off your list

Jobe Incognito I marked as blue, and he's currently my D8 - doesn't score heaps, but as you said good TOG so hoping he gets up for D8

Apparently Longmuir just said that Hill felt something in his quad. LOL carnage!
Got to laugh, the start of this season will have teams with more holes than swiss cheese.   
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 07, 2020, 10:10:34 PM
If Hill is injured he becomes Noble or Young. That's a pretty easy switch. If you have him forward turn him into Rankine or swing Brander forward and same deal.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 07, 2020, 10:38:58 PM
If Hill is injured he becomes Noble or Young. That's a pretty easy switch. If you have him forward turn him into Rankine or swing Brander forward and same deal.

Schultz for me I think
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on March 07, 2020, 10:41:45 PM
Currently 15 Rookies for a total 2.2 m @ average 150K.

Madness!!

Sacrificed Whitfield and skimmed cream off my ultra premium mids to turn Hill at F5 into Dev Smith. Our bench Rookies need to be playing Round 1 in order to start our trading cycle on time.

This isn't a normal season.

We need to let go of what we've done in the past.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 07, 2020, 10:51:16 PM
Schultz for me I think

I didn't realise he was only 200k. I'm pretty meh on small forwards though that play as legitimate small forwards. He did look pretty good against Carlton and was decent again tonight. Job security should be solid as well.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 07, 2020, 11:29:27 PM
Schultz for me I think

I didn't realise he was only 200k. I'm pretty meh on small forwards though that play as legitimate small forwards. He did look pretty good against Carlton and was decent again tonight. Job security should be solid as well.

To be fair I already have Noble, and Young is currently with the rehab group...I still hate the fact I've spent a ton on rookies though!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 07, 2020, 11:32:17 PM
I think we got lucky tonight given Stephen hill is injured again. Probably was always a risk and now he can’t be selected and saves the trade.

Brander locked in his spot in the eagles side.

Vardy was hopeless again which means I will still be picking Bailey Williams.

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on March 07, 2020, 11:48:17 PM
I think we got lucky tonight given Stephen hill is injured again. Probably was always a risk and now he can’t be selected and saves the trade.

Brander locked in his spot in the eagles side.

Vardy was hopeless again which means I will still be picking Bailey Williams.

Still Bailey, even though he didn't play due to hamstring?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 07, 2020, 11:53:27 PM
I think we got lucky tonight given Stephen hill is injured again. Probably was always a risk and now he can’t be selected and saves the trade.
Only awareness, Longmuir says he's "really hopeful he'll play round one."

Though tbf, any sort of quad injury for him is a concern.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 08, 2020, 07:48:39 AM
Brander locked in his spot in the eagles side.

Vardy was hopeless again which means I will still be picking Bailey Williams.

West Coast coach Adam Simpson said the Eagles still had questions to answer about their likely round one team, with an intraclub match next Friday to help determine who fills the second ruck spot.

Second-year tall Bailey Williams missed Saturday's clash with hamstring tightness but will have the opportunity to press his claims as Nic Naitanui's support.

Not sure what to make about his comments on Brander...

"I thought he had some really good and some moments that weren’t so good," the coach said.

"That’s a work in progress, he’s played three games of AFL footy.

"We really like some of the things he does so we’ll have to see how we go with selection in 10 days’ time, have a look who’s around and who’s back, review his game.

"But it’s been a step forward, pre-season has been a good one for him."
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 08, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
Brander locked in his spot in the eagles side.

Vardy was hopeless again which means I will still be picking Bailey Williams.

West Coast coach Adam Simpson said the Eagles still had questions to answer about their likely round one team, with an intraclub match next Friday to help determine who fills the second ruck spot.

Second-year tall Bailey Williams missed Saturday's clash with hamstring tightness but will have the opportunity to press his claims as Nic Naitanui's support.

Not sure what to make about his comments on Brander...

"I thought he had some really good and some moments that weren’t so good," the coach said.

"That’s a work in progress, he’s played three games of AFL footy.

"We really like some of the things he does so we’ll have to see how we go with selection in 10 days’ time, have a look who’s around and who’s back, review his game.

"But it’s been a step forward, pre-season has been a good one for him."

I’m really confident on bailey Williams. Vardy was horrendous again and we haven’t seen hickey yet.

Brander was poor in the early parts of the game. He was not up with the speed of the game. The longer the game went on the better he got in that aspect and his possession count started to rise.
He desperately needs a consistent run of games to get used to the standard. If he plays round 1 they won’t drop him for a couple to let him adjust to afl speed.

Really confident with both.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 08, 2020, 09:53:37 AM
Brander locked in his spot in the eagles side.

Vardy was hopeless again which means I will still be picking Bailey Williams.

West Coast coach Adam Simpson said the Eagles still had questions to answer about their likely round one team, with an intraclub match next Friday to help determine who fills the second ruck spot.

Second-year tall Bailey Williams missed Saturday's clash with hamstring tightness but will have the opportunity to press his claims as Nic Naitanui's support.

Not sure what to make about his comments on Brander...

"I thought he had some really good and some moments that weren’t so good," the coach said.

"That’s a work in progress, he’s played three games of AFL footy.

"We really like some of the things he does so we’ll have to see how we go with selection in 10 days’ time, have a look who’s around and who’s back, review his game.

"But it’s been a step forward, pre-season has been a good one for him."

I’m really confident on bailey Williams. Vardy was horrendous again and we haven’t seen hickey yet.

Brander was poor in the early parts of the game. He was not up with the speed of the game. The longer the game went on the better he got in that aspect and his possession count started to rise.
He desperately needs a consistent run of games to get used to the standard. If he plays round 1 they won’t drop him for a couple to let him adjust to afl speed.

Really confident with both.
What is Williams injury?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Fid on March 08, 2020, 10:03:05 AM
What is Williams injury?


West Coast coach Adam Simpson said the Eagles still had questions to answer about their likely round one team, with an intraclub match next Friday to help determine who fills the second ruck spot.

Second-year tall Bailey Williams missed Saturday's clash with hamstring tightness but will have the opportunity to press his claims as Nic Naitanui's support.

Not sure what to make about his comments on Brander...

"I thought he had some really good and some moments that weren’t so good," the coach said.

"That’s a work in progress, he’s played three games of AFL footy.

"We really like some of the things he does so we’ll have to see how we go with selection in 10 days’ time, have a look who’s around and who’s back, review his game.

"But it’s been a step forward, pre-season has been a good one for him."
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 08, 2020, 10:04:24 AM
What is Williams injury?

Hamstring tightness - just precautionary leaving him out - still a chance for R1
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 08, 2020, 11:13:42 AM
What is Williams injury?

Hamstring tightness - just precautionary leaving him out - still a chance for R1
Cheers
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 08, 2020, 11:47:28 AM
What is Williams injury?


West Coast coach Adam Simpson said the Eagles still had questions to answer about their likely round one team, with an intraclub match next Friday to help determine who fills the second ruck spot.

Second-year tall Bailey Williams missed Saturday's clash with hamstring tightness but will have the opportunity to press his claims as Nic Naitanui's support.

Not sure what to make about his comments on Brander...

"I thought he had some really good and some moments that weren’t so good," the coach said.

"That’s a work in progress, he’s played three games of AFL footy.

"We really like some of the things he does so we’ll have to see how we go with selection in 10 days’ time, have a look who’s around and who’s back, review his game.

"But it’s been a step forward, pre-season has been a good one for him."

Yes my eyes are painted on  ;D
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 08, 2020, 11:52:55 AM
Caldwell missed the cut

Another one bites the dust

Good signs for Green though
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 08, 2020, 12:10:22 PM
Caldwell missed the cut

Another one bites the dust

Good signs for Green though
Taranto and Ward out so you think there is 2 spots up for grabs Hately takes one and hopefully Green gets the other.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 08, 2020, 01:03:37 PM
Caldwell missed the cut

Another one bites the dust

Good signs for Green though

Meanwhile Ash is currently playing himself out of the team...
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Bones Bombers on March 08, 2020, 02:47:13 PM
Two guys currently in my forward line are Crocker and Davis from Adelaide. They haven’t had any high SC scores but they looked to be playing their roles pretty well and I notice the Crows only played 22 Friday night. So they at least looked to have a spot in the team.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on March 08, 2020, 02:56:53 PM
Two guys currently in my forward line are Crocker and Davis from Adelaide. They haven’t had any high SC scores but they looked to be playing their roles pretty well and I notice the Crows only played 22 Friday night. So they at least looked to have a spot in the team.

Nice Bones - those two slipped under the radar. Adelaide pretty much came out a few days ago and said they wanted Marsh 2 team to be as close to round 1 lineup as possible
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Bones Bombers on March 08, 2020, 03:02:06 PM
Two guys currently in my forward line are Crocker and Davis from Adelaide. They haven’t had any high SC scores but they looked to be playing their roles pretty well and I notice the Crows only played 22 Friday night. So they at least looked to have a spot in the team.

Nice Bones - those two slipped under the radar. Adelaide pretty much came out a few days ago and said they wanted Marsh 2 team to be as close to round 1 lineup as possible
Scores haven’t been exciting but we need to take what we can get at this point.
Haven’t seen them mentioned much if at all.
I keep trying to replace them but keep putting them back in.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 08, 2020, 03:03:03 PM
Guys like Ben Crocker could take until the byes to earn 80k. Davis is a name I've heard come up a few times and I'd look at him as a possible F8.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 08, 2020, 04:11:42 PM
Lock in Noble down back. Especially if Hill isn't available round 1
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 08, 2020, 04:31:53 PM
Two guys currently in my forward line are Crocker and Davis from Adelaide. They haven’t had any high SC scores but they looked to be playing their roles pretty well and I notice the Crows only played 22 Friday night. So they at least looked to have a spot in the team.

I put a line through them because I expect them to score poorly and I don't think they're good SC options. Again, just my opinion

He costs a little more, but Isaac Cumming looking like a real option too
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 08, 2020, 04:36:47 PM
Noble tick
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 09:09:19 AM
With 2 matches remaining here's where I'm at with the rookie situation.

These are the guys I am using to complete my side for now, both on field and bench

Note: I expect a few more to get named, but I won't consider them as I think they'll be poor scorers and bench cloggers so I have not listed them here

D: Noble, Ash, BZT*, Young, Starcevich (M), Brander (F), Williams (R), Watson, Kennerley*

M: Rowell, Anderson, Stephens*, Green, Pickett, Robertson, McInerney*, Sharp, Budarick (F)

R: Xerri*

F: Georgiades, Rankine, King, Mahoney* (M), Taylor*

* Playing today

Honestly, King and to an extent Georgiades probably shouldn't be on the list as I think they will be low scorers but as you can see it's dire in the fwd line so we will likely need to start some of them and I think their JS is solid, so they get named while the likes of Davis etc don't
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 09, 2020, 09:43:00 AM
With 2 matches remaining here's where I'm at with the rookie situation.

These are the guys I am using to complete my side for now, both on field and bench

Note: I expect a few more to get named, but I won't consider them as I think they'll be poor scorers and bench cloggers so I have not listed them here

D: Noble, Ash, BZT*, Young, Starcevich (M), Brander (F), Williams (R), Watson, Kennerley*

M: Rowell, Anderson, Stephens*, Green, Pickett, Robertson, McInerney*, Sharp, Budarick (F)

R: Xerri*

F: Georgiades, Rankine, King, Mahoney* (M), Taylor*

* Playing today

Honestly, King and to an extent Georgiades probably shouldn't be on the list as I think they will be low scorers but as you can see it's dire in the fwd line so we will likely need to start some of them and I think their JS is solid, so they get named while the likes of Davis etc don't
Yep the list is getting smaller and a few today that probably have ?? about R1 even Ratten has said that King is in the mix for a debut.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 09, 2020, 11:05:58 AM
You can add TDK to the Ruck list. Marchbank going down yesterday plus the way he performed in his half means he should get a few games whilst McKay gets healed up. He’s a ruck only though.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 09, 2020, 11:24:57 AM
Watch for Comben to impress today (hopefully gets a good run).been good in intra clubs and could make it onto people’s tick sheets.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 09, 2020, 11:27:21 AM
Watch for Comben to impress today (hopefully gets a good run).been good in intra clubs and could make it onto people’s tick sheets.
He hasn't been named? ???
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 09, 2020, 11:51:59 AM
Watch for Comben to impress today (hopefully gets a good run).been good in intra clubs and could make it onto people’s tick sheets.
He hasn't been named? ???

Really.? Sorry, could of sworn, he was in the 26. Oh well, forget I spoke.

Just checked and you are correct, I’m an idiot.

So for two really good intra club matches, his reward is emergency for a marsh game. Geez my team sucks at times.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 12:02:00 PM
Watch for Comben to impress today (hopefully gets a good run).been good in intra clubs and could make it onto people’s tick sheets.
He hasn't been named? ???

Really.? Sorry, could of sworn, he was in the 26. Oh well, forget I spoke.

Haha, yeah Xerri is the man we have our hopes pinned on for today :)

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 09, 2020, 12:13:35 PM
Watch for Comben to impress today (hopefully gets a good run).been good in intra clubs and could make it onto people’s tick sheets.
He hasn't been named? ???

Really.? Sorry, could of sworn, he was in the 26. Oh well, forget I spoke.

Nah got a little over excited to see his name on the team sheet Saturday.  ;D thought it was too good for my team to have 5 rookies playing marsh 2, alas, it’s only 4 .

Haha, yeah Xerri is the man we have our hopes pinned on for today :)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
Taylor is looking really good. 123k forward.

I have no idea why Williamson didn't play for Carlton yesterday. He had a knock in the Freo game but I've seen nothing. I'd have him ahead of Newnes and definitely ahead of Polson pretty easily. Depending how the Plow/Marchbank injuries play out he will be in contention for round 1

De Koning was awesome last night. Outplayed McGoven comfortably and I'd play him round 1 in McKay's spot. He is probably out though when McKay comes back so I wouldn't pick him
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 09, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
I think we can forget about Williamson, along with probably Bonar and Mahoney as well. TDK will sit at r3 with Xerri at f8 at this rate, might just roll into r1 with 30 playing and no loophole as it’s a near certainty someone will get dropped at some stage.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2020, 02:09:34 PM
Bonar scored okay in the first game but I wasn't impressed. He doesn't look to spread or win the pill at all and after the initial contest he was pretty much uselese standing in dead space.

Mahoney I was never considering
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 02:24:41 PM
With Turner injured HS was reporting that Mahony was going to play Round 1, barring he didn't shower the bed today

Taylor might get that spot instead

Either way, there's a decent chance one of them plays, and at this rate we'll take it!

As for Bonar, I haven't had in my side much at all. Too expensive imo. We're forced to spend that sort of cash on defender rookies, but not on a fwd/mid. He's a last resort type
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 09, 2020, 02:25:53 PM
Curtis Taylor will play round 1 for sure, loving what I'm seeing from him.. Didn't realise he was only 123k after playing a few games last year.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2020, 03:13:47 PM
Mid rookies are horrible. I'm actually considering batting 6 deep in the midfield with Rowell, Pickett and Green the only ones looking like getting a gjg. Robertson might round 1, I'm not sold on Anderson and Budarick is meh.

Taylor is a lock for the forward line. Just kicked another
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Bones Bombers on March 09, 2020, 05:57:50 PM
Taylor was awesome to watch down in Kingston today. He’s a good size lad and read the ball and handles it really well. Nice kick.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 06:40:55 PM
With a qtr to go, I think I've seen enough to make a call on who I think the decent rookies are that we will have come Round 1

D: Noble, Ash (M), Guthrie, BZT, Young, Starcevich (M), Brander (F), Williams, Watson

Can't really see any other defenders getting a gig, and as you can see most of these guys are expensive. McAsey doesn't interest me, and I think Ash, Starcevich, Williams and Watson are all 50/50 shots to line up Round 1 too

M: Rowell, Anderson, Green, Pickett, Robertson, Sharp, Budarick (F), Mahony (F)

Looking pretty damn sad here - bugger all cheapo's. I expect Rowell, Green, Pickett M6-8 to be the norm, with Dev, Budarick/Sharp, Mahony to be the bench. *shudders*

R: TDK?

I'll be starting Cameron to use for Captains Loophole and R/F DPP

F: Taylor, Georgiades, Rankine

Ugh, with Hill now getting injured there's every chance a lot of us will be fielding 2 fwd rookies, which isn't exactly comforting based on the lack of overall FWD and FWD/MID options. I don't want to start King so he's not on the list, but he's probably the break glass in case of emergency last resort

That's it. That's the only guys I see starting and worth picking. I'm sure we might see a couple of other rookies not on that list get named, but if they're not on that list I would expect them to be horrible scorers anyway.

Happy Days!  :'(
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 09, 2020, 06:45:21 PM
Ben Crocker will play for the Crows I feel. If he can average 15-18 touches and a goal or 2, he could be a decent option. More out of necessity!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 09, 2020, 06:48:25 PM

[/quote]Yep the list is getting smaller and a few today that probably have ?? about R1 even Ratten has said that King is in the mix for a debut.
[/quote]

That’s coach speak. King was a lock to play 22 games barring injury as soon as the ink was dry on the Bruce trade.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
Ben Crocker will play for the Crows I feel. If he can average 15-18 touches and a goal or 2, he could be a decent option. More out of necessity!

Is that all? Just 15-18 and 1 or 2 goals, every week? :P
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2020, 07:26:43 PM
King is a lock. If he learns to kick at goal he will be a beast this year
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 09, 2020, 07:29:06 PM
King is a lock. If he learns to kick at goal he will be a beast this year

Lol he’s an absolute certain to start in our teams. These people saying they not going to start him are off their nut.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on March 09, 2020, 07:56:44 PM
Good post RD.
My rookies atm all come from your initial list.
Put Starcevich at M11 as I preferred other defenders over him, but not another mid, and he also has DPP with Houston.
Cameron as loophole won't work with Grundy as VC. That's a negative. Going with Xerri myself.
3 fwd rookies look easy...Rankine, Georgiades, Taylor as stated. King would rank as 4th best IMO.
M6-8 will be same for everyone.I agree.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 08:14:32 PM
King is a lock. If he learns to kick at goal he will be a beast this year

Lol he’s an absolute certain to start in our teams. These people saying they not going to start him are off their nut.

Why?

Like I said he's a last resort, but surely you can't be actually wanting him in your side?

Taylor, Georgiades and Rankine are the 3 I'm going with at the moment, but like I said King is the last resort for me - have to think he'll be putting up plenty of 30-50 scores
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on March 09, 2020, 08:17:12 PM
King is a lock. If he learns to kick at goal he will be a beast this year

Lol he’s an absolute certain to start in our teams. These people saying they not going to start him are off their nut.

Why?

Like I said he's a last resort, but surely you can't be actually wanting him in your side?

Taylor, Georgiades and Rankine are the 3 I'm going with at the moment, but like I said King is the last resort for me - have to think he'll be putting up plenty of 30-50 scores
Yep will play every week whilst his body holds up but low scores will be the norm. Slow burn unless he kicks a bag.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on March 09, 2020, 08:19:47 PM
What's the go with TDK?
Marchbank opens a spot?
Xerri with DPP and NM fixturing for me. Regardless of being named at this stage.
A cash cow R3 may change that thinking though.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 09, 2020, 08:30:40 PM
What's the go with TDK?
Marchbank opens a spot?
Xerri with DPP and NM fixturing for me. Regardless of being named at this stage.
A cash cow R3 may change that thinking though.
Xerri maybe a small chance still Ben Brown said today he's hoping R1 but maybe it will be R2or 3 even Cameron a tiny chance Cox was pretty ordinary you never know what unfolds in the next 10 days.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 09, 2020, 08:48:25 PM
What's the go with TDK?
Marchbank opens a spot?
Xerri with DPP and NM fixturing for me. Regardless of being named at this stage.
A cash cow R3 may change that thinking though.
Xerri maybe a small chance still Ben Brown said today he's hoping R1 but maybe it will be R2or 3 even Cameron a tiny chance Cox was pretty ordinary you never know what unfolds in the next 10 days.

Cameron will definitely be in that side before long. Cox is hopeless

That being said they prob give cox at least a month to do nothing  before they drop
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 09, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
What's the go with TDK?
Marchbank opens a spot?
Xerri with DPP and NM fixturing for me. Regardless of being named at this stage.
A cash cow R3 may change that thinking though.
Xerri maybe a small chance still Ben Brown said today he's hoping R1 but maybe it will be R2or 3 even Cameron a tiny chance Cox was pretty ordinary you never know what unfolds in the next 10 days.

Cameron will definitely be in that side before long. Cox is hopeless

That being said they prob give cox at least a month to do nothing  before they drop
Might be worth starting Cameron at R3
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 09:22:07 PM
Probably makes sense to start Xerri/Comben at R3 so you can loop Grundy, and then if Cameron does actually get a game we can trade an existing fwd rookie to him, and swing the two between R3 and F8
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 09, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Probably makes sense to start Xerri/Comben at R3 so you can loop Grundy, and then if Cameron does actually get a game we can trade an existing fwd rookie to him, and swing the two between R3 and F8
Yeah didn't realise Pies had so many early games in first 7 rounds not worried about Round1 probably use a mid for C if Cripps flops Grundy been a bit of a slow starter and Doggies mids are good and English looks a much improved player.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2020, 10:07:06 PM
Why?

Like I said he's a last resort, but surely you can't be actually wanting him in your side?

Taylor, Georgiades and Rankine are the 3 I'm going with at the moment, but like I said King is the last resort for me - have to think he'll be putting up plenty of 30-50 scores

Georgiades is the worst of the lot. He is not only the most expensive, he is going to be just as prone to putting up the spud scores that King does but without the same talent level. Dixon injured also means he gets a better defender lining up on him each week. I also rate the Saints as a better team compared to Port. King looked awesome at times against the Pies, it was just his finishing that let him down. I think he is more likely to bust open a big score for the cash gen to get going.

Rankine may also have a ton of spud scores playing in a small forward role, he is ridiculously talented and I'd feel okay picking him for that F7 spot though.

What's the go with TDK?
Marchbank opens a spot?
Xerri with DPP and NM fixturing for me. Regardless of being named at this stage.
A cash cow R3 may change that thinking though.

Different positions. If healthy Williamson would basically be next in line. TDK would play forward and he needs two of Gov/Levi/McKay not to play round 1. McKay is out, I think he is ahead of Gov on form and would be stiff to miss, but as soon as McKay is healthy he probably comes in. He would need to perform exceptionally well to hold his spot. Having said that, he looked last night. Andrews was following him around and he was winning the 1 on 1 contests against him which was encouraging. We could have a player in the future.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2020, 10:10:59 PM
Xerri maybe a small chance still Ben Brown said today he's hoping R1 but maybe it will be R2or 3 even Cameron a tiny chance Cox was pretty ordinary you never know what unfolds in the next 10 days.

Brown said he needs to go for scans to see how it's all panning out. If anything I think he may miss the first couple but will be back for round 3. When they bring Brown in they may choose to not let him do any of the ruck work to help ease the load on his body, especially if Xerri has been performing well. Right now I'd probably rank it like this

Xerri>Cameron>TDK

Xerri the most likely to play early and could hold a spot, he hasn't looked completely out of place in both games while he didn't perform well today

Cameron is behind Cox but will probably get a shot at some point based on Cox's 2019.

TDK is in due to the McKay injury if he does play and would be straight out once McKay is healthy unless he is in ridiculous form and they drop Gov. I think this has the least probability of occurring.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 10:24:19 PM
Georgiades is the worst of the lot. He is not only the most expensive, he is going to be just as prone to putting up the spud scores that King does but without the same talent level. Dixon injured also means he gets a better defender lining up on him each week. I also rate the Saints as a better team compared to Port. King looked awesome at times against the Pies, it was just his finishing that let him down. I think he is more likely to bust open a big score for the cash gen to get going.

It's all just personal opinion. You prefer King, I prefer George. King did look good at times yesterday, but George also looked good at times.  King 7 kicks, 5 marks and a goal for 29SC is just lol

The 7k difference is negligible

Dixon out only improves his JS I'd think

They're both going to be bench cloggers, but we're likely going to have to pick 1, possibly both

There's really no legitimate argument why one is better than the other imo (Purely talking SC scoring, not talent)

Just personal choice - they'll both be SC spuds
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 10:32:41 PM
First 5 weeks opponents

King

Norf (Tarrant?)
WCE (Barrass/Gov)
RIC (Grimes/Astbury)
MEL (May/Omac)
GEE (Blicavs/Taylor)

George

GC (Collins/Thompson)
ADE (Talia/McAsey)
NOR (Tarrant?)
WCE (Barrass/Gov)
COL (Roughead/Moore)

Pretty similar, but I'd favour George's fixture

Again, they'll both be spud scorers at the end of the day
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 09, 2020, 10:33:44 PM
Williams is a lock for our defensive lines. Telling you all right now. He’s on my field.

Hayden young also locked into my side.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 09, 2020, 10:55:02 PM
That 29 is because he couldn't kick for crap at goal. I think he had two out on the full and two behinds. Pick 1, no concerns about job security, he seems like a no brainer for F8.

Young if he gets named makes life easier. I could try and structure up a little differently by maybe swinging Ash into the midfield and dropping a mid premium to spread the cash around.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 09, 2020, 10:57:48 PM
Williams is a lock for our defensive lines. Telling you all right now. He’s on my field.

Hayden young also locked into my side.

Yep, got Young at D6 and Williams at D8
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 09, 2020, 11:01:09 PM
That 29 is because he couldn't kick for crap at goal. I think he had two out on the full and two behinds. Pick 1, no concerns about job security, he seems like a no brainer for F8.

Young if he gets named makes life easier. I could try and structure up a little differently by maybe swinging Ash into the midfield and dropping a mid premium to spread the cash around.

Ash won’t make it I feel even though he’s real handy.I hope young is not named round 1. He be there round 2.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colty on March 10, 2020, 09:02:04 AM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Rusty00 on March 10, 2020, 09:19:17 AM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Playing in the ruck, when Gawn was sitting on the bench the whole time.....
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: dylanclements on March 10, 2020, 10:31:14 AM
Schultz for me I think
I didn't realise he was only 200k. I'm pretty meh on small forwards though that play as legitimate small forwards. He did look pretty good against Carlton and was decent again tonight. Job security should be solid as well.

Does anyone else have further knowledge on Schultz?

He's not an easy pick at 209k but I'd certainly look seriously at it if there was enough upside. I doubt Bonar is worth it at over 200k, and right now Rankine and Taylor are on my field. Any way of addressing that would help!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colty on March 10, 2020, 03:09:27 PM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Playing in the ruck, when Gawn was sitting on the bench the whole time.....
I get that.... but if he’s getting a game and playing 20% ruck as a chop out and averaging 60-70  he’s worth a pick. 
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2020, 03:23:23 PM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Playing in the ruck, when Gawn was sitting on the bench the whole time.....
I get that.... but if he’s getting a game and playing 20% ruck as a chop out and averaging 60-70  he’s worth a pick.

At his price, and the fact that he will just be sitting on your bench at R3 (No DPP), I cannot see a scenario where it makes sense to pick him

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Colty on March 10, 2020, 03:38:52 PM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Playing in the ruck, when Gawn was sitting on the bench the whole time.....
I get that.... but if he’s getting a game and playing 20% ruck as a chop out and averaging 60-70  he’s worth a pick.

At his price, and the fact that he will just be sitting on your bench at R3 (No DPP), I cannot see a scenario where it makes sense to pick him
What if you started him?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2020, 03:48:50 PM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Playing in the ruck, when Gawn was sitting on the bench the whole time.....
I get that.... but if he’s getting a game and playing 20% ruck as a chop out and averaging 60-70  he’s worth a pick.

At his price, and the fact that he will just be sitting on your bench at R3 (No DPP), I cannot see a scenario where it makes sense to pick him
What if you started him?

Thanks for playing - see you next year? :P

Nah seriously, he can't be started surely? That's just not going to end well
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on March 10, 2020, 03:54:20 PM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 10, 2020, 03:59:41 PM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Playing in the ruck, when Gawn was sitting on the bench the whole time.....
I get that.... but if he’s getting a game and playing 20% ruck as a chop out and averaging 60-70  he’s worth a pick.

At his price, and the fact that he will just be sitting on your bench at R3 (No DPP), I cannot see a scenario where it makes sense to pick him
What if you started him?

 ;D ballsy, if you think he’ s in rnd 1 and beyond, go for it. Would need a Ceglar type backup plan just in case
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: tommy10 on March 10, 2020, 04:08:14 PM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577
Not surprising, but exactly what we wanted.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on March 10, 2020, 04:20:49 PM
Luke Jackson, 70 points from 48% game time......
Playing in the ruck, when Gawn was sitting on the bench the whole time.....
I get that.... but if he’s getting a game and playing 20% ruck as a chop out and averaging 60-70  he’s worth a pick.

I'm not going there, and wouldn't recommend it.. but in fairness there is the thought that Jackson would also occassionally see some CBA action as an onballer, a la Roughy. I believe this happened in one of the practice games or scratch matches.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Money Shot on March 10, 2020, 07:09:58 PM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577
Not surprising, but exactly what we wanted.
Was hoping McLennan would be on that list too :/
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Money Shot on March 10, 2020, 07:47:51 PM
Also does anyone have any idea on why Gould didn’t play this weekend? Looked really good in the first game.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 10, 2020, 08:21:10 PM
Also does anyone have any idea on why Gould didn’t play this weekend? Looked really good in the first game.

The “glass half full” side of me wonders whether they’d seen enough of him? But Lloyd and Mills coming back and him not playing is concerning for his round 1 prospects
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2020, 08:50:36 PM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 10, 2020, 10:14:28 PM
Also does anyone have any idea on why Gould didn’t play this weekend? Looked really good in the first game.

He lookee like he did enough in the first pre-season game, but they moved Lewy Taylor behind the ball on the weekend and he had an excellent game. If Taylor stunk it up or Taylor and Gray were competing for the same forward spot I think Gould would be locked in. I'd still have a little hope he gets named but it's looking a tad doubtful
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Gavdroid on March 10, 2020, 10:37:25 PM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying

Sharp wasn't mentioned? 5 debutantes from one team might be a bit much to hope for.

If people are looking at 200k rookies is Tyson Stengle worth a look? Probably takes Betts' spot at the Crows
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 10, 2020, 10:38:30 PM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying

Sharp wasn't mentioned? 5 debutantes from one team might be a bit much to hope for.

If people are looking at 200k rookies is Tyson Stengle worth a look? Probably takes Betts' spot at the Crows

Crocker would get the first crack at that spot before Stengle no? Crocker's output was ok in the 2 games...
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 10, 2020, 10:40:17 PM
Mitch Hibberd is listed as a test for the Bombers. I doubt he would play straight up round 1 but might be one to keep an eye on
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Gavdroid on March 10, 2020, 10:52:11 PM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying

Sharp wasn't mentioned? 5 debutantes from one team might be a bit much to hope for.

If people are looking at 200k rookies is Tyson Stengle worth a look? Probably takes Betts' spot at the Crows

Crocker would get the first crack at that spot before Stengle no? Crocker's output was ok in the 2 games...

Actually yeah, probably right. Could be a case of one in one out throughout the season too
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 10, 2020, 11:58:59 PM
Mitch Hibberd is listed as a test for the Bombers. I doubt he would play straight up round 1 but might be one to keep an eye on

If the mid rookie situation remains as bad as it appears, there's a fair chance I might just start him - he can sit at M11 and be used to loop until he debuts

Alternatively he will be a handy downgrade target
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: TomK on March 11, 2020, 12:00:02 AM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying

Sharp wasn't mentioned? 5 debutantes from one team might be a bit much to hope for.

If people are looking at 200k rookies is Tyson Stengle worth a look? Probably takes Betts' spot at the Crows

Crocker would get the first crack at that spot before Stengle no? Crocker's output was ok in the 2 games...
Stengle's a lock, Crocker is competing with Davis/Murphy/Himmelberg/Frampton (only one of Himm/Frampton picked if either) for three spots in R1.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 11, 2020, 12:04:12 AM
Mitch Hibberd is listed as a test for the Bombers. I doubt he would play straight up round 1 but might be one to keep an eye on

If the mid rookie situation remains as bad as it appears, there's a fair chance I might just start him - he can sit at M11 and be used to loop until he debuts

Alternatively he will be a handy downgrade target
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 11, 2020, 12:34:53 AM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying

Sharp wasn't mentioned? 5 debutantes from one team might be a bit much to hope for.

If people are looking at 200k rookies is Tyson Stengle worth a look? Probably takes Betts' spot at the Crows

Crocker would get the first crack at that spot before Stengle no? Crocker's output was ok in the 2 games...
Stengle's a lock, Crocker is competing with Davis/Murphy/Himmelberg/Frampton (only one of Himm/Frampton picked if either) for three spots in R1.

Crocker isn't competing with Himmelberg/Frampton. They're talls. He's competing with Davis/Murphy/Stengle, and has clearly been the best of that quartet through the Marsh games. All 4 of them played in both.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 11, 2020, 08:43:26 AM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying

Sharp wasn't mentioned? 5 debutantes from one team might be a bit much to hope for.

If people are looking at 200k rookies is Tyson Stengle worth a look? Probably takes Betts' spot at the Crows

Crocker would get the first crack at that spot before Stengle no? Crocker's output was ok in the 2 games...
Stengle's a lock, Crocker is competing with Davis/Murphy/Himmelberg/Frampton (only one of Himm/Frampton picked if either) for three spots in R1.

Crocker isn't competing with Himmelberg/Frampton. They're talls. He's competing with Davis/Murphy/Stengle, and has clearly been the best of that quartet through the Marsh games. All 4 of them played in both.
Stengle is a lock to play R1 for me, his pressure was so much better than Crocker.
Murphy should be in line ahead of Crocker and Davis not far off.
Himmelberg likely ahead of Frampton, but that depends if they liked the Walker as backup ruck option.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: TomK on March 11, 2020, 11:05:33 AM
Noone seems to be pointing to a media source where he said it, but several sc sources on twitter stating Dew naming Rowell, Anderson, Budarik and Rankine to debut rd 1.

https://twitter.com/SCElites/status/1237213034239512577

This sort of stuff irks me

All these "SC Twitter" accounts stating it like it's fact, when all Dew said was that those guys were in the mix

Of course a coach isn't going to state 4 rookies are debuting when there's still 10 days until they play  ::)

"They [Rowell and Anderson] will be hard to keep out. They are tracking really well, Connor Budarick as well,” coach Stuart Dew said.

“He has had a good summer. I think we are all excited for when Izak plays his first game, we would love for that to be round one,” Dew said.

It's encouraging, but not fact like all these twitter accounts are portraying

Sharp wasn't mentioned? 5 debutantes from one team might be a bit much to hope for.

If people are looking at 200k rookies is Tyson Stengle worth a look? Probably takes Betts' spot at the Crows

Crocker would get the first crack at that spot before Stengle no? Crocker's output was ok in the 2 games...
Stengle's a lock, Crocker is competing with Davis/Murphy/Himmelberg/Frampton (only one of Himm/Frampton picked if either) for three spots in R1.

Crocker isn't competing with Himmelberg/Frampton. They're talls. He's competing with Davis/Murphy/Stengle, and has clearly been the best of that quartet through the Marsh games. All 4 of them played in both.
Yes he is cause it depends on what structure we want to go into the game with, it could change any given week with matchups and whether we want EH/BF there as more ruck support and an extra tall up forward. Nicks said after our second Marsh game that one of Himmelberg/Frampton will likely play R1, one of Davis/Crocker/Murphy would be the one to drop out.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: bkimm32 on March 11, 2020, 03:09:07 PM
Not a rookie but with the lack of quality mids, is daicos a decent cash cow option? A little on the expensive side at 259k but looks set for a decent season and even a 75 average (which is quite easily achievable) will make around 150k give or take, which is more than what we can say about most rookies. Plus, he looks to be confidently in collingwoods best 22. His JS should be strong as he’s performing.

Sorry didn’t know where else to post
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Gigantor on March 11, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
Not a rookie but with the lack of quality mids, is daicos a decent cash cow option? A little on the expensive side at 259k but looks set for a decent season and even a 75 average (which is quite easily achievable) will make around 150k give or take, which is more than what we can say about most rookies. Plus, he looks to be confidently in collingwoods best 22. His JS should be strong as he’s performing.

Sorry didn’t know where else to post
No change, would have to averave 80+ to make 150k in a decent time.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ingram on March 11, 2020, 03:57:11 PM
Had anyone mentioned Fort yet?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2020, 04:03:43 PM
Had anyone mentioned Fort yet?

Yeah I was keeping an eye on him

260k is award, and in the Marsh match he played first half and Stanley played 2nd half, so it looks like they're still figuring out who gets first crack

One bad game could see him dropped - prob not a great option all things considered
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ingram on March 11, 2020, 04:10:06 PM
Going Steven down to Fort let's me fine tune a little further and of shtf with defense rookies I might be forced to do it anyway. He scored very well while being on the ground.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jvalles69 on March 11, 2020, 04:14:11 PM
I would not trust a single thing Geelong do, so no chance am I trusting borderline guys.  How many late out's did they have last minute last season?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 11, 2020, 05:17:18 PM
Had anyone mentioned Fort yet?

Yeah, he is one that could be decent value for money. He looked pretty agile running around the ground the other day against the Bombers. I have him as one I could look at if the forward rookies end up a complete mess. These are a few of the other awkwardly priced options

Narkle - He is 396k and mid only. Played in a hell of a lot of the CB's through pre-season. Selwood and Duncan are still to come in but both are wings for the Cats so at his price he could be a high risk high reward option.

Hately - 300k and will take Taranto's spot in the side. Has looked amazing through the pre-season games and is primed for a breakout. Could very well go for 90 and be a stepping stone.

Gibbs - 375k and probably the in between on Hately and Narkle. Has averaged at least 90 in all but 3 seasons in his career.

Vandenberg - 248k and already injured. Pass

Harry Morrison - 287k and looks to have locked down a defensive rebounding role at the Hawks.

Ridley - 322k and had him pegged for a breakout last year. Looked excellent again this preseason and with the Dons injuries he could produce.

Trent McKenzie - 298k and could be taking a lot of kickouts for Port. Was excellent early in his career at the Suns with his damaging boot and then fell off a cliff. Very risky but if desperation comes knocking

Birchall - 292k and his body has been cooked in recent times. Has been a proven 85+ scorer in the past and looks to have a role.

Cumming - 245k with a half back slot looking like it could be his. Too fringe to be paying that price but probably less worries health wise compared to a Birchall.

Then there a bunch like Townsend, Long, Rayner, Butler etc. that scream meh at best.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2020, 05:43:09 PM
Forgot Bewley Mat

Bewley, Fort, Cumming, Roberton and Noble are the only guys in the 200-300k range I'd consider (pending team selection etc)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2020, 09:26:43 PM
"It's a unique position for us. You've got the (Todd) Goldstein type (at North Melbourne) who can ruck all day, and you just need a pinch-hit forward.

"We don't need that with Nic, we need a forward who can play 50 minutes in the ruck.

"That's why in the past we've played a (Scott) Lycett, a (Nathan) Vardy, even a Cal Sinclair.

"Bailey Williams, Nathan Vardy, Tom Hickey and Oscar Allen are all options we're working through."

At least he said Williams name first  ;D

Simpson added that Friday's session would go a long way to proving whether Jarrod Brander assumes the wing role vacated by Chris Masten.

Friday will be huge for Williams and Brander (and us!)

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 11, 2020, 09:47:49 PM
"It's a unique position for us. You've got the (Todd) Goldstein type (at North Melbourne) who can ruck all day, and you just need a pinch-hit forward.

"We don't need that with Nic, we need a forward who can play 50 minutes in the ruck.

"That's why in the past we've played a (Scott) Lycett, a (Nathan) Vardy, even a Cal Sinclair.

"Bailey Williams, Nathan Vardy, Tom Hickey and Oscar Allen are all options we're working through."

At least he said Williams name first  ;D

Simpson added that Friday's session would go a long way to proving whether Jarrod Brander assumes the wing role vacated by Chris Masten.

Friday will be huge for Williams and Brander (and us!)

Prior to seeing Williams, I was hoping the eagles would play Nic Nat an extra 10-15 mins ruck a game and just go with Oscar Allen.

Surely they can’t go with Allen from no preseason games in that role.

It will be Williams.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Southstorm on March 11, 2020, 10:24:42 PM
Mitch Hibberd is listed as a test for the Bombers. I doubt he would play straight up round 1 but might be one to keep an eye on

If the mid rookie situation remains as bad as it appears, there's a fair chance I might just start him - he can sit at M11 and be used to loop until he debuts

Alternatively he will be a handy downgrade target
realistically Mitch is a long way from debut and I wouldn't expect him to play before the bye. Even if he was fit I don't see him in our round 1 starting 22 which is far from full strength as it is.

Definitely a handy downgrade target for later trades, and might be a downgrade that plays the second half of the season though.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: timtim on March 12, 2020, 01:34:07 AM
Mitch Hibberd is listed as a test for the Bombers. I doubt he would play straight up round 1 but might be one to keep an eye on

If the mid rookie situation remains as bad as it appears, there's a fair chance I might just start him - he can sit at M11 and be used to loop until he debuts

Alternatively he will be a handy downgrade target
realistically Mitch is a long way from debut and I wouldn't expect him to play before the bye. Even if he was fit I don't see him in our round 1 starting 22 which is far from full strength as it is.

Definitely a handy downgrade target for later trades, and might be a downgrade that plays the second half of the season though.

Yes I hope so

Maybe I’m worrying too much now, but I’m not sure if they lack of rookies now will translate into an even emptier cupboard later in the season
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: sidvicious on March 12, 2020, 08:37:40 PM
AFL site has posted mock Rnd 1 teams
https://www.afl.com.au/news/384196/mock-teams-who-s-in-the-22-for-r1-we-make-the-call
Not many Rookies mentioned
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 12, 2020, 09:06:52 PM
Saw that. Looks even worse than before
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2020, 09:08:34 PM
AFL site has posted mock Rnd 1 teams
https://www.afl.com.au/news/384196/mock-teams-who-s-in-the-22-for-r1-we-make-the-call
Not many Rookies mentioned

Reckon they're pretty bang on with this, unfortunately

D: Noble, Ash, BZT, McAsey, Starcevich, Brander, Williams
M: Rowell, Anderson, Serong, Green, Pickett,
R: CCJ, Jackson
F: Davis, Rankine, King, Georgiades, Taylor, Pickett, Sturt

E: Robertson, Watson, Budarick, Sparrow, Bonar, Stephens, Crocker, Frampton, Cameron, Brown, Weightman, Williamson, RCD,

My advice, build your sides now around the rookies they think will play, and let's hope some of the guys in the Emergencies get a look in
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: eaglesman on March 12, 2020, 09:31:25 PM
All this research has been a waste of time haha.

Virus 100% to finish the season.

Stay healthy everyone and we will have loads of rookies next season.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: shaker on March 13, 2020, 08:33:13 AM
All this research has been a waste of time haha.

Virus 100% to finish the season.

Stay healthy everyone and we will have loads of rookies next season.
Yep gotta agree it's ok playing games with no spectators but what happens when a player tests positive the whole team goes into quarantine ? then what?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Money Shot on March 17, 2020, 10:18:03 AM
Out of all the sub 220k defenders is Noble the clear standout???

I was originally not planning on starting any high end rookies down back but have decided I might.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 17, 2020, 11:31:43 AM
Out of all the sub 220k defenders is Noble the clear standout???

I was originally not planning on starting any high end rookies down back but have decided I might.
I'm probably going to end up getting him, he may have good job security, however, not sure on his scoring potential. His highest score out of his 5 games last year was only 64.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Money Shot on March 17, 2020, 11:53:23 AM
Out of all the sub 220k defenders is Noble the clear standout???

I was originally not planning on starting any high end rookies down back but have decided I might.
I'm probably going to end up getting him, he may have good job security, however, not sure on his scoring potential. His highest score out of his 5 games last year was only 64.
That’s why part of me thinks saving the extra 35k or so and getting Young could be a good option. Job Security the only concern.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: MontyJnr on March 18, 2020, 11:58:45 AM
GWS have announced Tom Green will be making his debut.

No mention of Ash though - safe to assume he's missed out?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 18, 2020, 12:07:52 PM
Looks like Tyler Brown could debut for Collingwood as well.

Few rookies should pop up today you'd think.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2020, 12:18:35 PM
Looks like Tyler Brown could debut for Collingwood as well.

Few rookies should pop up today you'd think.

Not touching him

Expect him to be straight out once Treloar returns

Will grab him on the bubble if he looks good
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on March 18, 2020, 12:35:57 PM
Looks like Tyler Brown could debut for Collingwood as well.

Few rookies should pop up today you'd think.

Not touching him

Expect him to be straight out once Treloar returns

Will grab him on the bubble if he looks good

All rumours point to the bubble being after round 1.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: MontyJnr on March 18, 2020, 12:38:20 PM
Won't rule out Brown for M11 if the Brisbane rookies miss out on a debut.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 18, 2020, 02:01:27 PM
Looks like Tyler Brown could debut for Collingwood as well.

Few rookies should pop up today you'd think.

Not touching him

Expect him to be straight out once Treloar returns

Will grab him on the bubble if he looks good

All rumours point to the bubble being after round 1.
Where did you hear that?
I haven't heard anything about this only the R2 bubble or no change.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2020, 02:12:40 PM
Looks like Tyler Brown could debut for Collingwood as well.

Few rookies should pop up today you'd think.

Not touching him

Expect him to be straight out once Treloar returns

Will grab him on the bubble if he looks good

All rumours point to the bubble being after round 1.
Where did you hear that?
I haven't heard anything about this only the R2 bubble or no change.

Yeah that doesn't sound right at all

2 games makes sense. We'll find out soon enough
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Pokerface on March 18, 2020, 02:26:23 PM
Looks like Tyler Brown could debut for Collingwood as well.

Few rookies should pop up today you'd think.

Not touching him

Expect him to be straight out once Treloar returns

Will grab him on the bubble if he looks good

All rumours point to the bubble being after round 1.
Where did you hear that?
I haven't heard anything about this only the R2 bubble or no change.

Yeah that doesn't sound right at all

2 games makes sense. We'll find out soon enough

Sorry that was bad wording. I meant they are on the bubble after round 1, heading into round 2 for upcoming price changes.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2020, 08:59:18 AM
Sounds like Gould was just managed when he missed Marsh 2. Could be a chance to debut this week
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Rusty00 on March 19, 2020, 11:12:50 AM
So Rankine will reportedly miss Rd.1.

I did hear some whispers that Bailey Williams didn't participate in the Eagle intraclub match last week either? Can anyone confirm?

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: MontyJnr on March 19, 2020, 11:33:29 AM
So Rankine will reportedly miss Rd.1.

I did hear some whispers that Bailey Williams didn't participate in the Eagle intraclub match last week either? Can anyone confirm?

Rankine out, Ben Cavarra in 8)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 19, 2020, 11:46:40 AM
Cavarra - Taylor - Buderick at F4-6 with King and Sturt on the bench

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 19, 2020, 12:46:29 PM
Kysaiah Pickett, Toby Bedford also confirmed to debut.

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Money Shot on March 19, 2020, 12:53:22 PM
Forward rookies are looking the goods...

No mention of any backline rookies :o
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 19, 2020, 12:56:11 PM
Cavarra - Taylor - Buderick at F4-6 with King and Sturt on the bench

 8) 8) 8)

I was only joking around with this, but throw Pickett and maybe Crocker in and it's acually not a bad lineup..
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: dylanclements on March 19, 2020, 02:06:24 PM
Note entirely accurate to call them rookies, but do people have views on fielding Schultz and or Stengle as exxy rookie options? I'm tempted to go with Rayner and one of these two but unsure apart from anything else about their JS
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 19, 2020, 02:20:15 PM
Cavarra, Bedford and Pickett are all small forwards. Id be comfortable picking 1 maybe 2 but not 3

No idea on JS though so its pretty much a stab in the dark on who
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 19, 2020, 02:25:25 PM
Georgiades confirmed to Debut
Sam Sturt Confirmed to Debut
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: MontyJnr on March 19, 2020, 02:38:38 PM
Bedford only played the final Marsh series game, but scored 43 off 32% gametime [1.162 points per minute, 40th in the league :)]

Max King, who seems to be a F8 lock for everyone, played both Marsh games and only scored 46 & 29 off 76.3% gametime [0.403 points per minute, 481th in the league :D]

Should we just replace King with Bedford?



Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Money Shot on March 19, 2020, 02:44:37 PM
King and Rankine dropped.

Taylor/Bedford F5/6 followed by Cavvarra/Sturt on the bench.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2020, 03:42:30 PM
King and Rankine dropped.

Taylor/Bedford F5/6 followed by Cavvarra/Sturt on the bench.

King isn't dropped

He is debuting

https://www.saints.com.au/news/578431/king-s-landing-max-to-debut-on-sunday

EDIT: Oh, dropped from your team?  ;D

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2020, 03:44:06 PM
Bedford only played the final Marsh series game, but scored 43 off 32% gametime [1.162 points per minute, 40th in the league :)]

Max King, who seems to be a F8 lock for everyone, played both Marsh games and only scored 46 & 29 off 76.3% gametime [0.403 points per minute, 481th in the league :D]

Should we just replace King with Bedford?

Who are the Dees on the fringe who could take Bedford's spot?

Vanders is cooked, but is anyone else a chance?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
The awkward moment when you dont know much about most of rookies debuting this week (sturt, bedford, k.Pickett, Geo.. etc)
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Tylo on March 19, 2020, 05:05:36 PM
Bedford only played the final Marsh series game, but scored 43 off 32% gametime [1.162 points per minute, 40th in the league :)]

Max King, who seems to be a F8 lock for everyone, played both Marsh games and only scored 46 & 29 off 76.3% gametime [0.403 points per minute, 481th in the league :D]

Should we just replace King with Bedford?

Who are the Dees on the fringe who could take Bedford's spot?

Vanders is cooked, but is anyone else a chance?

Spargo, Sparrow, Lackhart
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
Bedford only played the final Marsh series game, but scored 43 off 32% gametime [1.162 points per minute, 40th in the league :)]

Max King, who seems to be a F8 lock for everyone, played both Marsh games and only scored 46 & 29 off 76.3% gametime [0.403 points per minute, 481th in the league :D]

Should we just replace King with Bedford?

Who are the Dees on the fringe who could take Bedford's spot?

Vanders is cooked, but is anyone else a chance?

Spargo, Sparrow, Lackhart

Cheers

Spoke to a Dees fan who said he was surprised Bedford got in too

Pass for me
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 19, 2020, 05:27:47 PM
Matt Rowell, Noah Anderson and Connor Budarick confirmed to debut
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mahogany on March 19, 2020, 05:40:15 PM
Matt Rowell, Noah Anderson and Connor Budarick confirmed to debut

Most of you having all 3 or passing on Anderson?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 19, 2020, 05:41:26 PM
Matt Rowell, Noah Anderson and Connor Budarick confirmed to debut

Most of you having all 3 or passing on Anderson?

Rowell and Budarick locked, Anderson a pass.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 19, 2020, 05:43:03 PM
Matt Rowell, Noah Anderson and Connor Budarick confirmed to debut

Most of you having all 3 or passing on Anderson?
Im passing on Anderson at his price. Unless there is no rookies at all in the mids.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2020, 05:52:22 PM
Rowell and Budarick locked, Anderson a pass.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Qwerty7698 on March 19, 2020, 06:28:08 PM
Thoughts on Sturt
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: js19 on March 19, 2020, 06:30:15 PM
Justin McInerney named as well
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Southstorm on March 19, 2020, 06:37:09 PM
Xerri and Taylor both named on the norf extended bench
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 19, 2020, 07:01:46 PM
Defence & Mid Rookies looks like it might be an issue for alot of people.

Def
Brander, Guthrie, McAsey & BZT selected who are under 200k
Williams, Starcevich, Murphy on extended benches

Mid
Pickett, Green, Brown, Budarick, Mcinerney selected
Coleman, RObertson on Extended Bench

Fwd
Frampton, Gardner, Georgiades, Cavarra, Davis, King, Sturt selected
Sparrow, Pickett, Ballenden, Bedford, Taylor, Xerri on Extended Benches

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2020, 07:05:40 PM
Defence & Mid Rookies looks like it might be an issue for alot of people.

Def
Brander, Guthrie, McAsey & BZT selected who are under 200k
Williams, Starcevich, Murphy on extended benches

Mid
Pickett, Green, Brown, Budarick, Mcinerney selected
Coleman, RObertson on Extended Bench

Fwd
Frampton, Gardner, Georgiades, Cavarra, Davis, King, Sturt selected
Sparrow, Pickett, Ballenden, Bedford, Taylor, Xerri on Extended Benches

good work!
heres a few players to add to your list.
M: Anderson, Rowell
F: Stengle

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 19, 2020, 07:10:24 PM
Defence & Mid Rookies looks like it might be an issue for alot of people.

Def
Brander, Guthrie, McAsey & BZT selected who are under 200k
Williams, Starcevich, Murphy on extended benches

Mid
Pickett, Green, Brown, Budarick, Mcinerney selected
Coleman, RObertson on Extended Bench

Fwd
Frampton, Gardner, Georgiades, Cavarra, Davis, King, Sturt selected
Sparrow, Pickett, Ballenden, Bedford, Taylor, Xerri on Extended Benches

good work!
heres a few players to add to your list.
M: Anderson, Rowell
F: Stengle

I only went up to 200k otherwise I woud have been adding in Bonar, Schultz, Langdon, Ham etc too.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 19, 2020, 07:12:28 PM
Defence & Mid Rookies looks like it might be an issue for alot of people.

Def
Brander, Guthrie, McAsey & BZT selected who are under 200k
Williams, Starcevich, Murphy on extended benches

Mid
Pickett, Green, Brown, Budarick, Mcinerney selected
Coleman, RObertson on Extended Bench

Fwd
Frampton, Gardner, Georgiades, Cavarra, Davis, King, Sturt selected
Sparrow, Pickett, Ballenden, Bedford, Taylor, Xerri on Extended Benches

good work!
heres a few players to add to your list.
M: Anderson, Rowell
F: Stengle

I only went up to 200k otherwise I woud have been adding in Bonar, Schultz, Langdon, Ham etc too.
oh sorry!
Backline rookies looking very thin
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 19, 2020, 07:22:39 PM
Defence & Mid Rookies looks like it might be an issue for alot of people.

Def
Brander, Guthrie, McAsey & BZT selected who are under 200k
Williams, Starcevich, Murphy on extended benches

Mid
Pickett, Green, Brown, Budarick, Mcinerney selected
Coleman, RObertson on Extended Bench

Fwd
Frampton, Gardner, Georgiades, Cavarra, Davis, King, Sturt selected
Sparrow, Pickett, Ballenden, Bedford, Taylor, Xerri on Extended Benches

good work!
heres a few players to add to your list.
M: Anderson, Rowell
F: Stengle

I only went up to 200k otherwise I woud have been adding in Bonar, Schultz, Langdon, Ham etc too.
oh sorry!
Backline rookies looking very thin

Yep, Ive gone
D5 Noble, D6 BZT, D7 Brander, D8 Starcevich or Williams or Murphy as long as 1 gets up. If not its either McAsey or a donut.

M6 Rowell, M7 Green M8-12 Mcinerny, Pickett, Brown & Budarick - Budarick will swing forward if Robertson is named

F5 - Georgiades, F6 - Taylor, F7 - King, F8 - Cavarra. If Taylor not named will be Bedford. If Robertson Named in mids Georgiades drops out for Budarick
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Gavdroid on March 19, 2020, 07:51:59 PM
How long is Cavarra expected to stay in the side? Plenty to come back in for the dogs
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: bkimm32 on March 19, 2020, 08:55:20 PM
Anyone gonna start rankine regardless?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Rusty00 on March 19, 2020, 08:58:25 PM
Anyone gonna start rankine regardless?
Has a hamstring niggle I believe. No guarantee when he’ll be back
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Dmoney$ on March 20, 2020, 10:48:16 AM
So torn on what to do with my bench rookies since teams have been named and now have a few not playing... do I keep players like Gould, McHenry (Ade) ,  Robertson & Curtis Taylor (if not named in final squad) incase they are named next week or do I fill there spots with players like McInerney (syd), Ben Davis, Billy Frampton who have all been named but might not last the 2 week minimum till price change plus probably don’t score great?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 20, 2020, 10:50:55 AM
So torn on what to do with my bench rookies since teams have been named and now have a few not playing... do I keep players like Gould, McHenry (Ade) ,  Robertson & Curtis Taylor (if not named in final squad) incase they are named next week or do I fill there spots with players like McInerney (syd), Ben Davis, Billy Frampton who have all been named but might not last the 2 week minimum till price change plus probably don’t score great?

I'm going to start the rookies who are named in the final 22, and see what happens.

It may seem like a few of them have low JS, but we aren't their coaches. Who knows, McInerney might come out and have 30 disposals and ton up. Or another player could get injured, strengthening his JS.

With extra trades up our sleeves, trade hard early, get the rookies right and take advantage of price changes after 2 weeks.
Title: Like everyone, backs are thin
Post by: TurtlesTerriers on March 20, 2020, 02:50:48 PM
Just read the article on Nic Nat and with the change in quarters that Bailey Williams might have a greater chance for a gig.
Also a couple of weeks of favorable loophole excuse.
i didnt see he him play for his marsh 70 score.
happy for thoughts
keep healthy
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 20, 2020, 05:11:28 PM
How confident are we that Brown can hold his spot?
How confident are we that BJ Williams is in next week?

I really don't want to go for McAsey but there mightn't be a choice in the matter...
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 20, 2020, 05:34:30 PM
Starcevich in, Taylor in. Robertson Out.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 20, 2020, 05:37:17 PM
Robertson and Williams out is such as pain!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ingram on March 20, 2020, 05:37:55 PM
Max King or Bedford roll the dice?

Decent JS Vs potential good scorer? Bedford got 45ish from 32% TOG.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 20, 2020, 05:39:17 PM
Max King or Bedford roll the dice?

Decent JS Vs potential good scorer? Bedford got 45ish from 32% TOG.
Max King
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Dmoney$ on March 20, 2020, 05:47:29 PM
Thoughts on Mcasey scoring ability, reckon he’s gonna be worth the price tag?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Samsturmfels on March 20, 2020, 05:48:53 PM
Thoughts on Mcasey scoring ability, reckon he’s gonna be worth the price tag?
doubt it, dont know much about him but im gonna pick him anyway cause there arent any other backline rookies available
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: tkringle on March 20, 2020, 05:50:11 PM
Crap. Not sure if i should replace BJ Williams and Robertson or just keep them hoping they play next week..
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Locinator on March 20, 2020, 06:11:10 PM
food for thought, if we go a tyler brown/mcinerney with starcevich down back, we have the option to trade brown/mcinerney down after one price rise to either williams or robertson if one gets named round 2.

Of course this relies on tyler brown getting a price rise before treloar comes back.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: IntegralX on March 20, 2020, 06:14:12 PM
Crap. Not sure if i should replace BJ Williams and Robertson or just keep them hoping they play next week..

I'm leaning towards holding onto Williams...I don't think Brown has any JS whatsoever, whilst I believe Williams could be back as soon as next week. Hickey (and Vardy) showed me nothing at all in preseason to show that they're better than Williams...
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: tkringle on March 20, 2020, 06:15:46 PM
food for thought, if we go a tyler brown/mcinerney with starcevich down back, we have the option to trade brown/mcinerney down after one price rise to either williams or robertson if one gets named round 2.

Of course this relies on tyler brown getting a price rise before treloar comes back.

AFL Injury list has Treloar 1-2 weeks away. Thinking they will go at least 2 given his hamstring issues last year. Might be worthwhile going Brown
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: jfitty on March 20, 2020, 06:18:23 PM
On Bailey Williams via Eagles Twitter:

"Williams is tracking back from a hamstring :)"

I might hold and hope he comes in next week or the one after.. Not enough cash to get McAsey, and not restructuring now!
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: dmac07 on March 20, 2020, 07:29:59 PM
Im committed to starting a 0 in defense now.. question is, Gould or Williams?

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 20, 2020, 07:35:20 PM
I'm moving Williams to R3
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: tkringle on March 20, 2020, 08:49:38 PM
I'm moving Williams to R3

Who are you bringing in at D7 or 8 for him?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 20, 2020, 09:30:46 PM
I moved my premos around and ended up bringing in Sicily but had to field Cavarra. That half backfired
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 20, 2020, 10:51:13 PM
Think I'm copping BJWilliams at D8, don't trust Starcevich to hold his spot, and can't find the funds to get him anyways.

If he comes out and gets 100, I'll trade him in next week though :))
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: whynot102 on March 20, 2020, 10:56:07 PM
Cavara disappointing and on field
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RoughRed on March 20, 2020, 11:18:02 PM
Cavara disappointing and on field
+1
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 20, 2020, 11:22:09 PM
While Cavarra on field hurts, he should probably hold his spot and get a better crack at it next week.  The Dogs had only 22 inside 50's and were awful.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: enzedder on March 21, 2020, 06:06:48 AM
Going with...
D - Zerk Thatcher, Brander, Noble (Williams, Starcevich)
M - Rowell, Green, Pickett (McInenery, Budarick, Robertson)
R - (Xerri)
F - Taylor (Georgiades, King)

Hate the look of the mid bench.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Wanderer on March 21, 2020, 09:35:36 AM
While Cavarra on field hurts, he should probably hold his spot and get a better crack at it next week.  The Dogs had only 22 inside 50's and were awful.

He had no chance to score even a half decent score the way that game was played last night. I wouldn't write him off just yet.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 21, 2020, 07:21:30 PM
F'ing McAsey
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 21, 2020, 07:27:32 PM
F'ing McAsey

Thankfully I put him on the bench, but geez the rookie situation is looking bleak

The saving grace is that most of us are in the same position so we're all copping it

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 21, 2020, 07:34:29 PM
I was thinking of keeping Williams down back for the lone reason ofthe loophole for BZT and McAsey. I ended up fielding both with Brander and Starcevich on the bench. What a mistake that's turned out to be
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 21, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
F'ing McAsey

Thankfully I put him on the bench, but geez the rookie situation is looking bleak

The saving grace is that most of us are in the same position so we're all copping it
Hopefully Starcevich goes better as I played him on the field with MCAsey and Brander on bench.  Copped BZT as well.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 21, 2020, 09:26:22 PM
I was thinking of keeping Williams down back for the lone reason ofthe loophole for BZT and McAsey. I ended up fielding both with Brander and Starcevich on the bench. What a mistake that's turned out to be

Yeah, luckily I decided to start Williams and use him to loop D6 each week. Now I just need Brander to go well otherwise it's all for nothing haha

Still copped BZT and all of these other trash scores going around

Where's the delete team button?
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 22, 2020, 08:23:28 AM
So rookies are not performing so what action do we take,  Do we persevere for another week and hopefully get a ptice rise or start correctional trades now.

The big ones requiring attention for those that are relying on them on ground are BZT and Green.  Others are worries as well but they may be hidden on bench,  Hopefully we can see better performances today maybe.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2020, 09:43:46 AM
So rookies are not performing so what action do we take,  Do we persevere for another week and hopefully get a ptice rise or start correctional trades now.

The big ones requiring attention for those that are relying on them on ground are BZT and Green.  Others are worries as well but they may be hidden on bench,  Hopefully we can see better performances today maybe.

I'm not too worried about BZT. I watched the game, and he looked alright - the ball just wasn't near him often. For the first 3 qtrs the ball was barely down his way

McAsey was horrible, but there's no other rookie options to trade him to, so just need to hope he improves and leave him on the bench

I've started Dev Rob because I decided looping M8 would be more important, and I'm thankful I've done that because Pickett moves to M7 and now I can use Dev to loop Green/Starc/McInerney at M8, and even if Green gets dropped I can still loop the other two

As for the fwd rookies, I always wanted George but after I finalised my side I couldn't afford him which is frustrating, but again not a big deal yet. George and Sturt are the only 2 rookies I don't have that might be worth getting, so Cavarra and Davis/Green to those 2 is something I will look at, but I think I will look at doing rookie corrections as we enter Round 3 - give them another week to really see who looks like being the musts and must nots

Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Peter on March 22, 2020, 09:54:42 AM
Luckily had Sturt as emergency, so able to switch Rankine for Georgiades, getting a nice 100 pointer on ground instead of bench. Did the same with Naismith - has him as emergency as cash cow and switched Gawn for Xerri, giving me another 100+ points. Only mistake was then to get Danger instead of Whitfield, but only cost 20 odd points and Danger will go alright now he has got rid of the major tag for the season
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: js19 on March 22, 2020, 09:58:40 AM
So rookies are not performing so what action do we take,  Do we persevere for another week and hopefully get a ptice rise or start correctional trades now.

The big ones requiring attention for those that are relying on them on ground are BZT and Green.  Others are worries as well but they may be hidden on bench,  Hopefully we can see better performances today maybe.

I'm not too worried about BZT. I watched the game, and he looked alright - the ball just wasn't near him often. For the first 3 qtrs the ball was barely down his way

McAsey was horrible, but there's no other rookie options to trade him to, so just need to hope he improves and leave him on the bench

I've started Dev Rob because I decided looping M8 would be more important, and I'm thankful I've done that because Pickett moves to M7 and now I can use Dev to loop Green/Starc/McInerney at M8, and even if Green gets dropped I can still loop the other two

As for the fwd rookies, I always wanted George but after I finalised my side I couldn't afford him which is frustrating, but again not a big deal yet. George and Sturt are the only 2 rookies I don't have that might be worth getting, so Cavarra and Davis/Green to those 2 is something I will look at, but I think I will look at doing rookie corrections as we enter Round 3 - give them another week to really see who looks like being the musts and must nots

That’s the killer though - price rise after week 2. I’ve got Cavarra and Davis as well, and no Sturt or George. If I get at least Sturt before the price rise, I’ll bet my bottom dollar he scores a 30, and Cavarra tons up...
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2020, 10:34:51 AM
So rookies are not performing so what action do we take,  Do we persevere for another week and hopefully get a ptice rise or start correctional trades now.

The big ones requiring attention for those that are relying on them on ground are BZT and Green.  Others are worries as well but they may be hidden on bench,  Hopefully we can see better performances today maybe.

I'm not too worried about BZT. I watched the game, and he looked alright - the ball just wasn't near him often. For the first 3 qtrs the ball was barely down his way

McAsey was horrible, but there's no other rookie options to trade him to, so just need to hope he improves and leave him on the bench

I've started Dev Rob because I decided looping M8 would be more important, and I'm thankful I've done that because Pickett moves to M7 and now I can use Dev to loop Green/Starc/McInerney at M8, and even if Green gets dropped I can still loop the other two

As for the fwd rookies, I always wanted George but after I finalised my side I couldn't afford him which is frustrating, but again not a big deal yet. George and Sturt are the only 2 rookies I don't have that might be worth getting, so Cavarra and Davis/Green to those 2 is something I will look at, but I think I will look at doing rookie corrections as we enter Round 3 - give them another week to really see who looks like being the musts and must nots

That’s the killer though - price rise after week 2. I’ve got Cavarra and Davis as well, and no Sturt or George. If I get at least Sturt before the price rise, I’ll bet my bottom dollar he scores a 30, and Cavarra tons up...

I think I've found a way around this

I have DPP options thankfully

Tom Green will be a gun, but I'm not sure he will hang around. ZWil to return, and Hately waiting to get in

Green to Sturt and McAsey to Noble seem like 2 solid trades to do this week. Besides George, I'll have all the right rookies, whilst getting rid of the 2 that seem like expensive liabilities
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: frenzy on March 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM
Luckily had Sturt as emergency, so able to switch Rankine for Georgiades, getting a nice 100 pointer on ground instead of bench. Did the same with Naismith - has him as emergency as cash cow and switched Gawn for Xerri, giving me another 100+ points. Only mistake was then to get Danger instead of Whitfield, but only cost 20 odd points and Danger will go alright now he has got rid of the major tag for the season

wanna make sure xerri dont play today, Majak in doubt and Xerri emerg. I would be changing to Comben.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Wanderer on March 22, 2020, 12:37:13 PM
Luckily had Sturt as emergency, so able to switch Rankine for Georgiades, getting a nice 100 pointer on ground instead of bench. Did the same with Naismith - has him as emergency as cash cow and switched Gawn for Xerri, giving me another 100+ points. Only mistake was then to get Danger instead of Whitfield, but only cost 20 odd points and Danger will go alright now he has got rid of the major tag for the season

wanna make sure xerri dont play today, Majak in doubt and Xerri emerg. I would be changing to Comben.

T.Murphy ($152k Defender) replacing Daw
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2020, 01:22:43 PM
And he will be straight back out when Daw plays next game
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2020, 01:42:19 PM
Taylor continuing the rookie mess
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Gavdroid on March 22, 2020, 02:10:02 PM
Taylor continuing the rookie mess

It's funny the only one that was generally thought of as being the worst pick of the lot has got the biggest score out of them all so far. Typical. Can he back it up with something decent is the question I guess
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Wanderer on March 22, 2020, 02:22:27 PM
Robertson in replacing Birchall
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 22, 2020, 02:36:59 PM
Robertson in replacing Birchall
Now how many people will get caught out with him as C?

Ive had to drop to my backup being Trent Rivers to allow DPP loophole from Mid to Def.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: js19 on March 22, 2020, 02:39:47 PM
Robertson in replacing Birchall
Now how many people will get caught out with him as C?

Ive had to drop to my backup being Trent Rivers to allow DPP loophole from Mid to Def.

Came close...! Have BJ in the ruck, so will use him to get Grundy, but will cop Dev over Pickett. Hopefully he goes well
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Wanderer on March 22, 2020, 02:40:28 PM
Robertson in replacing Birchall
Now how many people will get caught out with him as C?

Ive had to drop to my backup being Trent Rivers to allow DPP loophole from Mid to Def.

Lots of people scrambling. Some people might not realise the late change and will get caught out.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Robertson in replacing Birchall
Now how many people will get caught out with him as C?

Ive had to drop to my backup being Trent Rivers to allow DPP loophole from Mid to Def.

Haha, did the exact same thing

With Houston and Starc in def having River M11 is actually quite good, I'm happy with it
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Wanderer on March 22, 2020, 02:43:45 PM
Taylor continuing the rookie mess

Starting to get into it now
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on March 22, 2020, 02:44:43 PM
Robertson in replacing Birchall
Now how many people will get caught out with him as C?

Ive had to drop to my backup being Trent Rivers to allow DPP loophole from Mid to Def.

Haha, did the exact same thing

With Houston and Starc in def having River M11 is actually quite good, I'm happy with it
Yeah I actually really like the look of it. with BZT, Brander, Starc it allows the option to loophole mid and def and take the best option.

I dont mind using a trade to get Deven if he locks a spot and is a must. Look like I will have 1 other correction at most needed.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2020, 02:52:51 PM
I'm expecting Williams to come in next game. The only reason Hickey has gotten a gig is the Gawn factor.
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Rusty00 on March 22, 2020, 02:55:20 PM
Had Grundy as C so might just roll with Dev and cop missing out on Pickett’s score
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2020, 03:13:42 PM
I'm expecting Williams to come in next game. The only reason Hickey has gotten a gig is the Gawn factor.

The only reason Hickey has got a game is because Williams is still recovering from a hammy strain
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Robertson in replacing Birchall
Now how many people will get caught out with him as C?

Ive had to drop to my backup being Trent Rivers to allow DPP loophole from Mid to Def.

Haha, did the exact same thing

With Houston and Starc in def having River M11 is actually quite good, I'm happy with it
Yeah I actually really like the look of it. with BZT, Brander, Starc it allows the option to loophole mid and def and take the best option.

I dont mind using a trade to get Deven if he locks a spot and is a must. Look like I will have 1 other correction at most needed.

I actually have Dev too

I've traded BJW to Rivers via moving Starc from mids to def

I had both BJW and Dev as loops - probably worked out well now that I just have 1 loop and get Dev's cash gen now
Title: Re: The Rookies Thread 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on March 22, 2020, 03:20:29 PM
I'm expecting Williams to come in next game. The only reason Hickey has gotten a gig is the Gawn factor.

The only reason Hickey has got a game is because Williams is still recovering from a hammy strain

That, and they are playing a monster in Gawn this week. If they were playing someone like the Dogs with English there is no chance Hickey plays.