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Title: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 30, 2011, 01:06:07 PM
I know it's a bit early, we still got the Finals between the Mavs and Heat to go but just wondering what all your thoughts are on next season' possible trades. The big 3 Free Agents are Dwight Howard, Deron Williams and Chris Paul. There's also rumors that Josh Smith might be traded.

I have a feeling CP3 is gonna end up at Knicks in the end because he made that toast last yr at Melo's wedding about forming their own Big 3 at NY. TO be honest I would also prefer him to go the Knicks and hope they can smash the Heat up lol. The other places I see CP3 are at the Magic if Dwight stays and someone convince the NOH to trade Paul over to the Magic though who would want Arenas' crap contract lol (prob gonna end up keeping him).

I have feeling he might end up a Laker. Heard rumors that Lakers might wanna get rid of Bynum, so maybe they could package like Bynum, Odom, Brown for Dwight (maybe even Gasol). Lakers apparently wanna get a new point guard, so again I could see Paul and Howard together at the Lakers lol.

I reckon DWill is probably gonna stay at the Nets. Thing is he can lure the others there as well because I think they will have the salary cap to accommodate at least another max free agent. It would be pretty dog if he ditch them after they made so much effort to get him in the team but then again it was probably against his will lol.

So anyways my predictions are:

CP3 to NYK.

Superman to LAL.

DWill stays at NJN or Brooklyn Nets.

Where would you like to see who go?
 
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 01:15:34 PM
CP3 still has a year to run so it would have to be a trade...

i dont think the Knicks can get him under the cap now they picked up Billups' option

www.iamagm.com this bloke is a great source of trades etc...

apparently the Blazers r talking to B Roy about possible retirement :o

DH12 probably wont go anywhere, Magic will offer the biggest contract...
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 30, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
I meant at the end of 2012 cause they obviously ditch billups afterwards. They signed him so he could be trade bait I'm pretty sure or be there so that contracts can match.

Thanks for the link I will check it out. I heard about BRoy. They don;t want him under the cap or sumthin.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 01:30:42 PM
yeah i guess thats what it is :-\

read an article via the oregonian yesterday with Patty Mills and he was really angry about it...

tbh i cant see much movement until the CBA is sorted which could end up like the NFL :-X

nobody is going to be taking on big contracts from trades and its hard to sign a guy DH12 when ur not exactly sure what u can offer...

which is why i think he stays in Orlando bcos there is already room for his contract.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on May 30, 2011, 02:08:53 PM
The big one I am interested in is will the Knicks sign Dalembert.  (I am a Kings fan).  I would like to see what we could get for him with a sign and trade (most likely I am dreaming this would happen).  We have 2 developing centres in Cousins and Whiteside.  Whiteside spent last season in the D-Leagues
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 02:16:27 PM
The big one I am interested in is will the Knicks sign Dalembert.  (I am a Kings fan).  I would like to see what we could get for him with a sign and trade (most likely I am dreaming this would happen).  We have 2 developing centres in Cousins and Whiteside.  Whiteside spent last season in the D-Leagues
i cant see what u could get in exchange for him tho :-\

The Knicks talent and depth were raped and pillaged by The Nuggets in the Carmelo 'ineedthirtyshotsagame' Anthony trade...
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on May 30, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
Maybe future trade options is the best they can offer
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 03:09:51 PM
Maybe future trade options is the best they can offer
apparently its a done deal The Denver Post have reported to ESPN they have...

TRADED Carmelo Anthony to The New York Knicks...

i hope for The Knicks sake this combination works out


DEAL: Knicks get Anthony Billups Williams Carter Balkman Brewer

Nuggets get Chandler Felton Gallinari Mozgov 2014 1st rd pick 2 2nd rd picks and 3million cash

Timberwolves get Eddie Curry and Anthony Randolph             
their flowered Valk! they hold minimal quality picks in the 2 coming drafts aswell which is why those picks r for 2014
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on May 30, 2011, 03:17:46 PM
So basically they have nothing to offer Sacramento so they are hoping they can offer Dalembert a decent enough contract to get him to not re-sign with the Kings and walk.

Hmmm
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Cicjose on May 30, 2011, 06:09:23 PM
Brandon Roy is a great player who cant get his body right :'(
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Windigo on May 30, 2011, 06:25:48 PM
Don't want to sound harsh.

But I watched a few blazer games and Roy just has no explosiveness and is real slow.

He will only be a role player coming off the bench if he keeps playing. Still good for 10-15 points if his mind is in the right place.

D-12 to LAL?

Gasol has to go for that to happen.

D-12 would be the main man & Kobe would play the same role he did with Shaq back in the day.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 06:45:03 PM
Roy has bone on bone in both knees, which only microfracture surgery can help and thats 12 month recovery which he hasnt/wont do...

Dwight is sooo not gonna go to LA ;D i cant believe there is even rumours it has no substance...

apart from being all Hollywood why would he want too go there? their all getting long in the tooth :-X

Dark Horse will be Chicago, they wont be happy with that finish and who wouldnt want to play with a 22 year old D Rose 8)

Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Windigo on May 30, 2011, 07:12:51 PM
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Dwight is sooo not gonna go to LA

Gee, we an dream can't we.  :P

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their all getting long in the tooth

So what if LA are a bunch of dinosaurs.............. :-\
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Cicjose on May 30, 2011, 07:13:49 PM
Boston are the same way.....
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Windigo on May 30, 2011, 07:17:57 PM
Has Shaq retired yet?
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on May 30, 2011, 07:54:23 PM
Roy has bone on bone in both knees, which only microfracture surgery can help and thats 12 month recovery which he hasnt/wont do...

Dwight is sooo not gonna go to LA ;D i cant believe there is even rumours it has no substance...

apart from being all Hollywood why would he want too go there? their all getting long in the tooth :-X

Dark Horse will be Chicago, they wont be happy with that finish and who wouldnt want to play with a 22 year old D Rose 8)

I would want to go to Chicago.  D Rose basically dragged his team in to the playoffs.  Add a dominant big man to that lineup could be just what they need.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Cicjose on May 30, 2011, 08:24:56 PM
Boozer and Noah were liabilities in the series
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 30, 2011, 08:34:20 PM
Roy has bone on bone in both knees, which only microfracture surgery can help and thats 12 month recovery which he hasnt/wont do...

Dwight is sooo not gonna go to LA ;D i cant believe there is even rumours it has no substance...

apart from being all Hollywood why would he want too go there? their all getting long in the tooth :-X

Dark Horse will be Chicago, they wont be happy with that finish and who wouldnt want to play with a 22 year old D Rose 8)



Thing is they are going to need trade to get new pieces. Also, who is going to try get Boozer, Korver, Bogans (don't think any1 gonna get bogans no matter how well he was going to perform anyways lol) after this series? They need to sign Rose to max contract too so it's going to be hard for them to bring in another star by trying to offload Boozer. I suppose they could trade the guys who did alright in this series like gibson, brewer asik and myb watson but that would mean ripping the bench apart and which team would want a bunch of role players for their star. They could also maybe trade deng but his contract is pretty big for some1 of his ability think his gettin like 12-14m a yr.

I hope the rumors with Cavs trying to get the 2nd pick are true cause then Rip Hamilton would most likely end up at the bulls and his a decent shooter.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Windigo on May 30, 2011, 08:46:31 PM
Is Boozer past it?

Was alright at the Jazz wasn't he?

Injuries taking there toll. Don't really read to much into Chicago. I cannot even see Rose. Too quick..... ::)
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 30, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
Well IMO Boozer is still alright offensively but defensively he has no clue. And yeah do you remember at the start of season how he got injured? Tripped over some bags in his house and busted his wrist or hand. 4 years left on that max contract lol.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Windigo on May 30, 2011, 09:01:16 PM
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Tripped over some bags in his house and busted his wrist or hand.

Epic Fail there.

Not has bad as Hamish Hartlett from Port getting into his bath and tearing his hamstring.

Or the Bogan Adelaide players hitching a ride on the back of a car. Brad Symes was riding on the boot and the Adelaide player roared over a speed bump and it sent Symes flying off. Broke his hand and finger/s.

They were too lazy to walk to their rooms across on the next oval.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 30, 2011, 09:05:27 PM
lol
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: j959 on May 30, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
only way DH12 walks is if Orlando isn't the biggest suitor - Bulls would love him but as you guys have pointed out, there is nothing that Orlando would want to 'blow things up' and start over without Dwight.

I would like to see Nash and Grant Hill get a title shots even though the Suns will hold.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 09:16:51 PM
yeah Boozer was dumb sign as ive previously stated, they overpaid for 20ppg and didnt get it, they already had a double digit rebounder in Noah who is a really good role player shoots high %s doesnt need alot of the ball to be effective and really good defensive wise...

Boozer has never been a defender he is a 20/10 guy on weak teams, he is an undersized PF thats 30 years old, absolute panic sign imo

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm

that is their salary situation ::) so if they move Boozer Noah or Deng with draft picks its absolutely doable with their contracts...

if the Magic arent going to be able to re-sign DH12 they will take the best offer they can get so they get something for him...

Howard and Rose would be a lethal combination and if I were Chicago i id say u can have anyone on this team apart from Rose...

chances r one of those 3 r left behind and u put some role players around them, ideally they would want to keep Deng the most as he is a good perimeter defender and solid 3rd option scorer which fits perfectly with a dominant PG and dominant C, but who wants a 30yo undersized PF on 15m a year? maybe the Cavs ;D

this trade is all just based on my opinion btw there r no rumours etc... but u can bet it wont be a cliche' move to LA 8)

Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Windigo on May 30, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
Or Rose says 'bugger it.' And goes to LA.  8)
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 30, 2011, 09:29:23 PM
Would Bulls take Boozer, Deng, Noah, Gibson for Howard, Arenas? Opportunity for magic to ditch arenas so that they can take on boozer lol. I wish they update the ESPN trade machine but this trade apparently works. I tried to add Hedo in for the Bulls but Arenas' contract is just too huge lol. I had so much fun with it around trade deadline time trying to move Melo around to other teams lol and sneaking CP3 into the Knicks.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 30, 2011, 09:30:48 PM
Actaully adding Hedo might work cause Noah is gonna get 10m not the 3m from next yr lol.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
its a long shot, but u have got to think from a Bulls GM stand point we have a 22yo MVP PG and this team can only go so far, the team we need to go thru hava weakness at C,we need to get the best Big Man on the market at all costs... just so happens he is 25 :o thats a 6-8 year window with those 2 on a team to challenge for titles 8)
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Windigo on May 30, 2011, 09:41:00 PM
Move Boozer along I say. Get in Dwight!

When will free agency begin??
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 30, 2011, 09:44:32 PM
thats the crappy part the collective bargaining agreement hasnt been sorted out so if they cant agree we could be facing a similar thing to the NFL scenario currently playing out :'(
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2011, 12:23:39 AM
here is an article from The Bulls website and writer Sam Smith...

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_110530.html
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on May 31, 2011, 10:38:37 AM
I like the trade machine :)

I just tried a 3 way trade between Kings, Magic and Bulls.

Bulls to get Howard
Kings to get Nelson or Arenas (either option works - Arenas if Magic want to clear up more salary cap space but Nelson would be preferred option for Kings IMO)
Magic to get Dalembert and Boozer

Bulls get their missing piece to the puzzle
Magic get a serviceable replacement C and a bonus PF
Kings get a PG

Of course this is speculation based on DH not re-signing with the Magic.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on May 31, 2011, 07:14:52 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6609008

The dream move is over...for now.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2011, 10:33:52 PM

DH12 probably wont go anywhere, Magic will offer the biggest contract...

its gonna be tough for teams to compete if u dont have a few stars on the same page...

on his side is Florida is a nice place to live but i dont see them landing a big fish :-\
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Hulmie on June 03, 2011, 04:54:57 PM
Don't count out New Jersey for Dwight.

Dwight D-Will combo is pretty mouth watering.

Plus the Magic would get a good young C in B.Lopez
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: patt-os on June 13, 2011, 08:04:55 PM
IMO i think all the Bulls really need is a starting 2 guard who can play both ways

Brewer is a good defender but is limited on the offensive end and Korver is a great shooter but is a liability when the ball goes the other way

I'm not sure what guards will be in free agency but if the Bulls pick one up and still keep that same core starting lineup and good bench squad they will be hard to beat next season
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on June 14, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
I think some of the guards in free agency this year are Vince Carter, Jason Richardson and Jamal Crawford. VC and JRich are obviously questionable but they are near or at the stage of their career where they probably need to take minimums if they wanna win a ring. Bulls didn't want TMac last year, so they probably don't want Carter cause he will prob try demand to handle the ball like TMac when he can't do anything with productive for the team. JRich is catch and shot but he isn't that consistent. I probably rate him higher than Carter at this point as fit to the Bulls, purely because at their age you can't be ball hogging especially when a DRose is your PG. I think Crawford would be the best. He can create his own shots and drive in like Rose. Problem is he might demand the ball but at least you know he will do a better job than VC. Maybe he could be a sixth man. However, defensively, you probably rather JRich. I doubt Crawford would take a minimum or even the mid-level exception. Bulls might have to financially figure this deal out first.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on June 14, 2011, 12:21:48 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-11-12

Look through this list and give us some of your recommendations you would like  ;D.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 14, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-11-12

Look through this list and give us some of your recommendations you would like  ;D.
sweet il hava look now cheers BM  8)
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 14, 2011, 02:19:27 PM
tbh i dont think we have the cap to sign anyone without them choosing to take a pay cut to win...

il do a little write up on who how why or what we should do tonight ;)
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on June 14, 2011, 02:34:50 PM
Nice will be looking forward to it ;).
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 14, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
Nice will be looking forward to it ;).

u should do one for The Rockets ;)
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 15, 2011, 12:49:12 AM
ok in all honesty i dont think they move Bosh on this offseason and signings etc wll be minimal aswell...

i think that The Heat will do their homework through the draft and give a young strong body opportunity...

probably sign a veteran Center also but fast tracking a young big man will be priority...

Trading Bosh What Ifs:

without going into the math getting technical or picks money etc the players that i could see working with Wade and James...
Andrew Bogut
Mark Gasol
Nene

Free Agent Signing What Ifs

again not a lot of cap room and someone would have to take a pay cut to try win...

players id like The Heat to look at bringng in:

Marcin Gortat
Andrei Kirilenko
Sam Dalembert
Tyson Chandler
Kris Humphries
Shannon Brown
Sasha Vujacic
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Andrew3737 on June 15, 2011, 12:56:38 AM
Nene not so much. If they get Bosh out+ clean their roster again. Getin D12 is not impossible.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 15, 2011, 12:58:46 AM
Nene not so much. If they get Bosh out+ clean their roster again. Getin D12 is not impossible.
id like to think that they could but im not holding my breath...

that 3 would be... well just an absurd force :o :o :o
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: patt-os on June 15, 2011, 12:59:05 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-11-12

Look through this list and give us some of your recommendations you would like  ;D.

There has been talk of Monta Ellis going to the Bulls, don't know how well he would fit the system.

I think they should really pursue Arron Afflalo from Devner

strong on the defensive end (was on the 2nd all defensive team one year i think) and he can score the ball adequately (12.6ppg in 2010/12 shooting at almost 50%)

J.R. Smith would be tempting but he comes with all that baggage, so much potential
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 15, 2011, 01:05:03 AM
Afflalo is restricted so could get pricey...

definitely not on Monta Ellis that would be as bad as the Boozer signing...

dont get me wrong i dont mind Boozer or Ellis as players but they dont fit with what the Bulls have already...

Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: Andrew3737 on June 15, 2011, 01:10:38 AM
Anyteam with D12 plus a very good Offensive talent will be a contender and prob Championship side. He took Orlando to the finals in 2009 with freaking Jameer Nelson has his partner.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 15, 2011, 01:18:05 AM
Anyteam with D12 plus a very good Offensive talent will be a contender and prob Championship side. He took Orlando to the finals in 2009 with freaking Jameer Nelson has his partner.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6L4yXDLXAFGtXvmao6TKTfMNxqkvApBWt_u4tnXM5AjCFK3Xj)
bahaha true :P

not sure what the details with trading on his contract are but Bosh would be powered off to be traded after settling for less money than he could have got if he went to a shower team as the main guy...
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on June 15, 2011, 01:37:18 PM
ok in all honesty i dont think they move Bosh on this offseason and signings etc wll be minimal aswell...

i think that The Heat will do their homework through the draft and give a young strong body opportunity...

probably sign a veteran Center also but fast tracking a young big man will be priority...

Trading Bosh What Ifs:

without going into the math getting technical or picks money etc the players that i could see working with Wade and James...
Andrew Bogut
Mark Gasol
Nene

Free Agent Signing What Ifs

again not a lot of cap room and someone would have to take a pay cut to try win...

players id like The Heat to look at bringng in:

Marcin Gortat
Andrei Kirilenko
Sam Dalembert
Tyson Chandler
Kris Humphries
Shannon Brown
Sasha Vujacic

Nice work there Marcz. I will try work on a Rockets one but it would probably be dream moves rather than realistic 1s lol. With section A, you will probably need 1 of those guys as well as a role player or 2. Otherwise I probably see the same thing that has happened with Bosh this year cause the trades are basically like to like. Also trading Bosh is gonna be hard. He is on a max contract and his stocks have surely gone down seeing how passive he has been in the Heat.

For section A the first 3 guys are good suggestions but I don't know if they will take minimum contracts. I think Gortat wouldn't take a pay cut cause he is still only 27 and teams would surely play him more than a minimum. I don't know if you remember but Kirilenko was rumored earlier to go to the Nets cause of the Russian owner. Apparently he was gonna be one of their big signings (at least more than a minimum contract) when they didn't get Melo. However, I can see Dalembert going to the Heat and take a minimum. I am not sure how much more other teams would offer him (mid level at most?) but out of the 3 he seems most likely IMO.

As for the other 4, Mavs said they were gonna resign Chandler, Shannon Brown has a player option an yeah again it's probably too early for him to leave for a minimum. He already has a ring as well. As for the Nets hacks, is it because they have smoking hot fiances (Maria and Kim  :'() isn't it? I wouldn't touch those 2. Sasha Vujadog is a hack player and so is Kris Humphries and maybe if they are willing to take minimums but anything above that probably not.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on June 15, 2011, 01:48:24 PM
Nene not so much. If they get Bosh out+ clean their roster again. Getin D12 is not impossible.
id like to think that they could but im not holding my breath...

that 3 would be... well just an absurd force :o :o :o

The only way for Miami to get D12 is to trade for him. They don't have salary cap to sign as a FA at the end of next year. Even then, who are Orlando gonna take for D12. Certainly not Chris Bosh and some role players. Unless they trade Bosh for a massive expiring contract but even then it would be very unlikely. After seeing Bosh's performances this year, his stocks will have plummeted and would a team rather have Bosh for another 4 years I think or have a shot at getting the FA superstars next year (Paul, D-Will, D12)?  Also, if Magic are forced into a situation where they need to trade him, Miami would be the last place on earth they will send him. Division and Conference rivals. Giving the Heat D12 for Bosh would mean strengthening your main rival and thus destroying their chances of winning a championship even more. On the other hand, if they send him to the West then at least they can hope some other team will knock D12's new team out b4 they need to face them.

So yes Marcz, I would hold my breath lol.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on June 15, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
BREAKING NEWS! D12 going to NZ BREAKERS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wEuTM0OJGo&feature=topvideos_sports
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 15, 2011, 02:55:39 PM
Bosh's contract isnt max BM

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

here is a list of payrolls and salaries... PS lmfao at the 2nd highest paid player, literally my ribs hurt ;D

so Bogut's contract is inline with Bosh and minimal other pieces needed to make it under the guidelines...

Mark Gasol is a stretch bcos he is on such a small contract :(

Dalembert is already in the crosshairs http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2011-06-14/heat-interested-in-dalembert-to-strengthen-center-position

DH12 is hitting the free agent market... http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6659887&categoryid=2378529

so with it fairly imminent that he leaves or they have to pay him a showerload do they trade the big fella so they get something for him?
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on June 15, 2011, 04:08:44 PM
Hey Marcz I think Bosh's contract was a max contract or close it anyways. Anyways it's a back ended contract like Lewis' one.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

He gets 22mil in the final year  :-\. And I think we have to start looking at next year's salaries with matching up contracts now.

Yeah Dalembert is would be a good choice for the Heat. Anthony is alright but undersized. Z and Dampier are basically finished.

Yeah I know DH12 said he was gonna test the FA market either way. Still I don't think the Heat will fit him in without getting rid of Bosh's contract. And IMO, Miami would be the last place they will send him to. Sending him to Miami with Wade and LeBron means Magic would basically have handed their greatest rivals the title while killing their own team. They would send him West first if they believe that DH12 doesn't look like resigning. Then maybe teams in the East who have less rivalry with the Magic. I reckon pieces from Lakers such as Bynum and Odom etc would be more attractive than Bosh IMO.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on June 16, 2011, 09:40:15 AM
What would Miami offer up for Dalembert considering he is currently on $12mil at the Kings.  There is no way he could get that kind of money from the Heat
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2011, 12:19:25 PM
i believe he is a free agent Valk so nudda thing :(

yeah i dont think they abandon Bosh yet i see them adding a bigger body to help him out for next season
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Post by: Cicjose on June 16, 2011, 12:31:34 PM
Marcz i love what the guy in 9th position has considering how much he gets played.....
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2011, 12:55:56 PM
unfortunately with Yao injuries have crushed him, not a pretty player but certainly an effective one when he was in his prime...

looks like we will struggle to keep any other than the starting 5 :-\

i like Chalmers i think he could be a solid PG but on The Heat the role is more suited to a SG...

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Post by: valkorum on June 16, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
i believe he is a free agent Valk so nudda thing :(

yeah i dont think they abandon Bosh yet i see them adding a bigger body to help him out for next season

I dont mean what can Miami offer Sacramento, but what can Miami offer Dalembert.  There is no way the can offer him $12mil a year. 

(Although I would be happy to do a sign and trade deal for Dalembert - if we are going to lose him :P)
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
lol wont happen mate whoever we sign will do so for less, we have nothing too offer in the way of a trade either as only 5 players r contracted for next season... chances r we get an older body lesser known type that wants to win a title
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 23, 2011, 12:09:34 AM
so rumors r swirling Nash to Twolves for pick 2 :o

also Tony Parker being offered for a high draft pick to get Valacuinis :o

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Post by: valkorum on June 23, 2011, 10:24:55 AM
so rumors r swirling Nash to Twolves for pick 2 :o

also Tony Parker being offered for a high draft pick to get Valacuinis :o

Apparently the Kings are interested
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 23, 2011, 11:48:43 AM
so rumors r swirling Nash to Twolves for pick 2 :o

also Tony Parker being offered for a high draft pick to get Valacuinis :o

Apparently the Kings are interested
yep that has been confirmed they r front runners :o

Timberwolves r firing head coach Kurt Rambis aswell...
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Post by: Windigo on June 23, 2011, 05:50:07 PM
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Nash to Twolves for pick 2 :o

Nash would make that team waaaay better.

Beasely & K.Love.....Add Nash to that....BLAM......... ::)
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Post by: patt-os on June 23, 2011, 07:30:21 PM
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Nash to Twolves for pick 2 :o

Nash would make that team waaaay better.

Beasely & K.Love.....Add Nash to that....BLAM......... ::)

Nash makes any team better full stop
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Post by: jwiggle on June 23, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
Minny just signed ricky rubio, and with flynn and ridnour they are already point guard heavy. Can't see them dealing for Nash no matter how good of a player he is.
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Post by: jwiggle on June 23, 2011, 11:38:40 PM
that number 2 pick has been shopped around. Minny already declined the Lakers for a straight Number 2 pick -> Odom... be interesting to see who ends up with it tomorrow.
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Post by: MajorLazer on June 23, 2011, 11:39:15 PM
I've heard Gasol for Love and 2nd Pick.

Purely rumours but the Lakers need some youth.
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 23, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
ino its weird ???

that said if the Cavs take Thompson instead of Irving so they can take Walker at 4...

then the T wolves will take Kyrie Irving anyway bcos they r stockpiling talent for a whopper trade imo :-X
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Post by: MajorLazer on June 23, 2011, 11:44:14 PM
The Cavs would take Williams not Thompson if they don't pick Irving IMO.

Tomorrow morning and I don't have school. ;D
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 23, 2011, 11:45:02 PM
I've heard Gasol for Love and 2nd Pick.

Purely rumours but the Lakers need some youth.
:o :o :o :o

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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 23, 2011, 11:46:55 PM
The Cavs would take Williams not Thompson if they don't pick Irving IMO.

Tomorrow morning and I don't have school. ;D
yeah sorry my bad mixed em up :-[

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=20209
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Post by: jwiggle on June 23, 2011, 11:48:31 PM
I've heard Gasol for Love and 2nd Pick.

Purely rumours but the Lakers need some youth.

It's true. Minny want Gasol to play with Ricky but no1 is going anywhere near Kevin Love.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 23, 2011, 11:51:26 PM
Odom for Iggy is buzzing on SC now...
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Post by: jwiggle on June 24, 2011, 12:00:03 AM
That would be a decent trade. Helps Kobe out immensely. Someone else who can create their own shot and more importantly finish on a nightly basis. Trading out one of their bigs tho is a risky move. Will have to ring in another trade to sure up the 4,5 position.

Fisher/Blake
Bryant/Brown
Iggy/Artest/Barnes/Walton/Ebanks
Gasol/Caracter
Bynum/Ratliff

.... bigs look shaky now
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 24, 2011, 09:21:15 AM
yeah definitely Bynum is fragile at best...

with the number 1 pick The Cleveland Cavaliers select Kyrie Irving Duke University...
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 24, 2011, 09:28:35 AM
At 2 The Minnesota Timberwolves select Derrick Williams Arizona University...
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 24, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
with the 3rd Pick The Utah Jazz select Enes Kanter Kentucky University...

with the 4th pick The Cleveland Cavaliers select Tristan Thompson Texas University...

Thompson was a bit of a surprise at 4
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 24, 2011, 09:54:23 AM
Raptors get Valancuinis at 5...

Wizards get Vessely at 6... really like the look of this kid 8)

Kings pick Biyombo at 7 reportedly for the Bobcats in some sort of trade probably for DJ Augustin imo
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Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 10:03:16 AM
Pick 5 - Jonas Valanciunas (Raptors)
Pick 6 - Jan Vesely (Wizards)
Pick 7 - Bismack Biyombo (Kings)
Pick 8 - Brandon Knight (Pistons)
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Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 10:07:55 AM
Pick 9 - Kemba Walker (Bobcats)
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Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 10:13:12 AM
Pick 10 - Jimner Fredette (Bucks)

You would think this pick would mean bye bye Jennings
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Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
Pick 11 - Klay Thompson (Warriors)



Pick 10 - Jimner Fredette (Bucks)

You would think this pick would mean bye bye Jennings

NOPE - I was wrong



3 Way trade was done just before the draft

Bucks get:  Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, Beno Udrih, #19 pick
Bucks send:  Corey Maggette, John Salmons, #10 pick

Bobcats get:  #7 pick, Corey Maggette
Bobcats send:  Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston, #19 pick

Kings get:  John Salmons, #10 pick
Kings send:  Beno Udrih, #7 pick

So the kings actually get Jimner Fredette and John Salmons
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Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 10:55:32 AM
Pick 12 - Alec Burks (Jazz)
Pick 13 - Markieff Morris (Suns)
Pick 14 - Marcus Morris (Rockets)
Pick 15 - Kawhi Leonard (Pacers)
Pick 16 - Nikola Vucevic (Sixers)
Pick 17 - Iman Shumpert (Knicks)
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 24, 2011, 11:49:31 AM
w0w i actually like that trade for all involved...
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 11:59:41 AM
w0w i actually like that trade for all involved...

Definitely interesting. 

This give us a nice 3 guard rotation in Tyreke, Jimmer and Thornton.
Salmons at 3 with Green and Casspi rotating through 3 and 4.
Cousins, Whiteside rotating through 4 and 5.

I think we still need another big man, even if we re-sign Dalembert.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
We must be either confident we are keeping Dalembert or confident that Cousins/Whiteside can handle the 5 as we picked a SF with our next pick (#35)

Tyler Honeycutt (6ft 8 SF)

http://www.nba.com/draft/2011/prospects/tyler-honeycutt/

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Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
Surely we have to pick a big man with our last pick (#60)
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Post by: jwiggle on June 24, 2011, 02:05:07 PM
Ater Majok.. lol
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Post by: valkorum on June 24, 2011, 02:19:51 PM
Ater Majok.. lol

To the lakers as well

Kings are gonna come back awesome - we just drafted Isaiah Thomas :P
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Post by: BlackMamba on June 25, 2011, 08:16:15 PM
I can't wait to see Jimmer play and see how he adapts to the NBA. Valkorum do you think it will be a problem since Jimmer and Evans both need the ball in their hands?
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Post by: valkorum on June 25, 2011, 10:41:13 PM
I can't wait to see Jimmer play and see how he adapts to the NBA. Valkorum do you think it will be a problem since Jimmer and Evans both need the ball in their hands?

I am a little worried about that.
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Post by: patt-os on June 26, 2011, 10:02:50 PM
I think it will work out well between those two, 2 guard suits Evans a lot better imo
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Post by: valkorum on June 27, 2011, 09:59:45 AM
I think it will work out well between those two, 2 guard suits Evans a lot better imo

But both Evans and Jimmer like the ball in their hands.  Thats the part I am worried about. 
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Post by: patt-os on June 27, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
http://fullcourtpress.kingsconnect.com/archives/10212
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Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 01, 2011, 02:07:45 PM
I really hope that one of Samuel Dalembert/Nene/Tyson Chandler comes to Miami, I ranked it in most likely to least likely. I highly doubt the latter two come to Miami, but Dalembert is a very strong possibility.

Gay lockout though ffs....
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Post by: valkorum on July 01, 2011, 02:14:28 PM
Dalembert would need to take a serious pay cut to go to Miami.  He is on $14mil a year at the Kings and there is no way Miami will be able top pay even 50% of what he is on.  Prob $3 - $4mil
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Post by: BlackMamba on July 01, 2011, 02:19:13 PM
Dalembert would need to take a serious pay cut to go to Miami.  He is on $14mil a year at the Kings and there is no way Miami will be able top pay even 50% of what he is on.  Prob $3 - $4mil

Yeah I heard somewhere that when the new CBA agreement comes into place, it is mostly likely that the mid-level exception will be gone. Unless Dalembert is thinking that all he wants to do is win a ring and be willing to take minimum money, I think it will be hard as for the Heat to keep him.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on July 01, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
DARE TO DREAM

If we offload Dalembert (which looks most likely), we would have plenty of cap room to put a max long term offer to Howard as a FA.  Imagine this team:

C: Howard (Whiteside)
PF: DMC (Hickson)
SF: Salmons (Honeycutt/Green)
SG: Tyreke (Garcia)
PG: Jimmer (Thornton)

I think the addition off Howard would make us playoff contenders instantly.  Thoughts?
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Post by: BlackMamba on July 01, 2011, 03:12:57 PM
Howard is the most dominant center in the league atm so I think his addition will make most teams a playoff contenders instantly IMO. I am still not sold on Salmons though :-\.
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Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 01, 2011, 03:19:25 PM
Dalembert would need to take a serious pay cut to go to Miami.  He is on $14mil a year at the Kings and there is no way Miami will be able top pay even 50% of what he is on.  Prob $3 - $4mil
You obviously don't have a good understanding of the current NBA CBA, or what is likely to happen with the new one.

With the MLE Miami can make a offer of up to 5.8 million a year, raising by 200k each year.
or
If Dalembert decided he would like to go to Miami, Sacramento can then sign Dalembert and trade him for Mike Miller + someone else (perhaps Joel Anthony), which would allow Dalemberts salary to be 6-9 million atleast.
This is whats referred to as a sign and trade.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 01, 2011, 03:21:10 PM
DARE TO DREAM

If we offload Dalembert (which looks most likely), we would have plenty of cap room to put a max long term offer to Howard as a FA.  Imagine this team:

C: Howard (Whiteside)
PF: DMC (Hickson)
SF: Salmons (Honeycutt/Green)
SG: Tyreke (Garcia)
PG: Jimmer (Thornton)

I think the addition off Howard would make us playoff contenders instantly.  Thoughts?
I think there's not a chance in hell that Dwight Howard is going to Sacramento lol, add to that, Demarcus Cousins is way too big and slow to be a power forward.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on July 01, 2011, 03:21:23 PM
I dont mean to be rude but the talks in the new CBA has MLE's changing (or even going altogether).  If thats the case then Miami could only afford to pay $3 - $4mil
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on July 01, 2011, 03:22:31 PM
DARE TO DREAM

If we offload Dalembert (which looks most likely), we would have plenty of cap room to put a max long term offer to Howard as a FA.  Imagine this team:

C: Howard (Whiteside)
PF: DMC (Hickson)
SF: Salmons (Honeycutt/Green)
SG: Tyreke (Garcia)
PG: Jimmer (Thornton)

I think the addition off Howard would make us playoff contenders instantly.  Thoughts?
I think there's not a chance in hell that Dwight Howard is going to Sacramento lol, add to that, Demarcus Cousins is way too big and slow to be a power forward.

Hence why I said "DARE TO DREAM" at the beginning.  If we did get Howard the you would have to play DMC at the 4
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Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 01, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
current salaries http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

obviously some of these rosters arent filled yet hence being so low...
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 01, 2011, 03:26:05 PM
I dont mean to be rude but the talks in the new CBA has MLE's changing (or even going altogether).  If thats the case then Miami could only afford to pay $3 - $4mil
S&T?
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: valkorum on July 01, 2011, 03:30:36 PM
I believe Dalembert is an unrestricted free-agent.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: BlackMamba on July 01, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
I dont mean to be rude but the talks in the new CBA has MLE's changing (or even going altogether).  If thats the case then Miami could only afford to pay $3 - $4mil
S&T?

I'd rather let Dalembert take a pay cut and lose him for nothing than take on a hack contract like Miller or Haslem with a sign and trade (only real trading chips in the Heat roster). Any1 Miami is willing to give (apart from the rookie guy but even then they don't need another PG) is probably gonna slow down the development of the King's young team.
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Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 01, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
Did you really just call Haslem a hack player? Man you mustn't watch much basketball at all man........

Also for Miller he injured his thumb on his shooting hand, you break your thumb on your shooting hand and then tell me how you go shooting the ball. If he makes sure it's right this offseason and has surgery on it he'll be back to shooting 50% from downtown. But whatever.
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Post by: BlackMamba on July 01, 2011, 10:58:14 PM
First off bro, did I say Haslem was a hack player? I said he is on a hack contract. Haslem and Miller are on the wrong side of 30 and have 4 more years left. Why the flower would the Kings take on those contracts to sign and trade Dalembert? What other contracts do Miami have that can match up with Dalembert expected sign and trade value? Yeah the Kings are motherflowering idiots and want to take on 31 year olds to flower their team development. How about 28 year old Joel Anthony? A combo of Big Z and House? So bro, tell me how else is a sign and trade gonna happen with Miami? Unless the kings are flowerheads they aren't gonna take any1 from Miami.

You know what man, it's gonna happen cause we are all flowerfaces who think everyone are gonna blow their teams up so that the Heat can have their way. Yeah the kings have DeMarcus, Hickson, Thompson and Whiteside but nah they want 30+ undersize guys to kill their big men development. Also they have Evans, Jimmer , Thornton and Salmons but they want another old shooter in addition to Salmons cause he brings experience and will flower up the careers of the others by taking minutes off them.
Title: Re: NBA Trades and Free Agents 2011 - 2012: Where would you like to see who go?
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on July 01, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
I misread that you said hack contracts as apposed to just hack. Either way, Haslem isn't on a hack contract, he was being offered 8 million a year to be a starter for the Denver nuggets. But anyway, when did I ever mention blowing up a team? First off you don't even have Dalembert, so it's not like you're blowing up your team.

Way to over react and get on your period over something that wasn't even said. But kudos to you, I know why you're feeling pain.
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Post by: BlackMamba on July 01, 2011, 11:49:03 PM
Can you explain to me how a sign and trade works? I thought it be something along lines of the Kings signing Dalembert to a contract and moving him to the Heat, and in order for that to happen, the Heat need to match the salaries up of Dalembert's new contract with salaries of their existing contracts. Which existing contracts will the Heat give up for Dalembert? Mike Miller or Haslem? Yep let's take those contracts flower the development for another 4 yrs. Do you understand Haslem/Miller are hack contracts from the King's POV?

Still don't get it? As you mentioned earlier, Kings are probably gonna relocate. Do you think it's economically viable for them to take on 4 year contracts of 31 year olds especially in a new market? Look what the Thunder did. Offloaded Allen and started fresh with KD. Do you think the Kings are gonna do the opposite and take on shower contracts? By doing a sign and trade with the Heat as you suggested earlier, the Kings are effectively flowering up their team.

Anyways I wouldn't know cause I don't really watch basketball as you mentioned before. Also, FYI I am a dude so I don't what PMS feels like but I am sure you do since you felt it was appropriate to bring it up.
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Post by: Jay on September 01, 2011, 08:11:39 PM
Dwight would look great in a boston uniform! Just saying...not gonna happen but oh how i wish ;)