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Title: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on August 16, 2012, 03:32:22 AM
a place to discuss all the top racing news and horses

I will try to bring you all the best horses in the biggest races leading up to the Cups, Cox Plate and Derby

   HORSES TO FOLLOW
Dance With Her, 2nd in the Brisbane/Doomben Cups and 2nd again over 2000 JRA Cup 28/9, my cups smokie
Shoot Out, 29:8-5-5, ultra consistand, won G1 George Main first up 1600-2400m 22/9/2012
Lamasery, 6yrs 20:10-2-3 one to follow over 2000m+
Lights of heaven, 5y mare 16-6-3-1, won Brisbane and Doomben Cups this year, top staying Mare + Moody factor
Voila Ici, 29:13-5-5 8yr Hourse, Moody trained former international stayer, ran 2nd in G1 Underwood Stakes 22/9/2012
Ocean Park 4yr 8:4-3-0, Star Kiwi won G1 1800m Underwood Stakes 2012
December Draw 7yr former Irish stayer, was Caulfield Cup favorite last year before injury, 3rd Underwood 22/9/2012
Sneak A Peek, another Moody international stayer
Ethiopia, 4yrs only had 5 starts but won the AJC Derby in April
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on August 17, 2012, 11:17:08 PM
Black Cavier's little bro All To Hard returns to racing in race three at Rosehill tomorrow
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on August 27, 2012, 06:30:55 PM
some big results on Saturday as Southern Speed returns to racing with a 3L win over 1400m at Morphettville, the Caulfield cup winner looking good again

Our Miss Jones 2nd in the Oaks at Morphettville returned with a flying win at the Valley over 1200m unfortunately she broke her pelvis so ???
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 01, 2012, 06:54:41 AM
All To Hard and Slipper winner Pierro meat again after Pierro beat the Great Mare's little bro in the Sires Produce in April, probably the two best three year olds run at Rosehill race 5

Caulfield race 6 is the G2 Memsie stakes where some good horses resume for the spring
Heart of Dreams 2 in this race last year hasn't raced since the Underwood last spring
Viola Ici Moody's new stayer from Italy has won 13 of 23 starts
Sincero former top 3yr old resumes and is favorite
Wall Street old timer, 4th last year's Cox Plate
Mayluckyday 2nd in Melbourne Cup last year
Niwot won the Sydney Cup
Rekindled Interest 3rd Cox Plate and Mackinnon 2011
Green Moon 2nd Caulfield Cup 2011
Sanagas Cummings new recruit from Germany won 7/11

Caulfield R7 Slickix stakes 1700
Tanby 7 of 18, great form last spring won Bendigo Cup, 2nd Geelong Cup, 2nd Herbert Power
Sabrage 2nd SA Derby, 3rd VRC Derby, 1st Norman Robertson 2011

Caulfield R8 National Jockeys Cup
Sneak a Peek another Moody Italian recruit, won 6/11
Chase the Rainbow 3 of 6, 4yr old raced last spring, resuming
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on September 06, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
Does anyone do Star Stable for the spring carnival?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on September 06, 2012, 12:56:48 PM
Does anyone do Star Stable for the spring carnival?

If by "doing" you mean "Pick a squad then promptly forget about it" then yes  :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 06, 2012, 01:40:01 PM
can't say I have heard of it, might have a look
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 06, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
Race 6 at Flemington Saturday is the Makybe Diva stakes 1600
big race with great horses resuming here

1) Efficient, grand galloper resume after a 2nd in the Sydney cup in April
2) Manigar, 5th Melbourne, 4th Caulfield Cups 2011, resumes as the standout horse last Autumn, winning the BMW, Ranvet stakes, Australian Cup, one I will be following with interest!
3) Mourayan, 2011 includes, 1st the Bart Cummings, 2nd Mackinnon stks, 2nd the BMW
5) December Draw, 2011 1st Naturalism stks, 1st Turnball stks, before injury, FOLLOW!
6) Mawingo, former international 1st Doomben Cup, 3rd Brisbane Cup in May/June. Big show, Watch!
10)Zabeelionaire, smart stayer won SA Derby, 4th Victorian Derby
11)Southern Speed, former Caulfield Cup winner 2nd to Black Caviar C F Orr stks 1400m in February, 2nd Australian Cup

Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 06, 2012, 02:19:10 PM
also resuming is super mare Mosheen who won almost everything so far only filly to test her (and flog her) was Atlantic Jewel who sadly is out for the spring,

Race 7 at Flemington No1
Mosheen has won 7 of 14 races including the VRC Crown Oaks (remember Atlantic Jewel missed this) Randwick Guineas, Australian Guineas,
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on September 06, 2012, 04:26:01 PM
can't say I have heard of it, might have a look
I dont punt on the horses but we had a work comp last year and it was just the fun to have after the dream team season. I like the spring carnival but dont punt so this is just the tonic for me.

tbagrocks have a look at  www.starstable.com.au

You get a mill to pick 10 horses and a jockey, you trade and the person who gets the most prizemoney wins from the live races over the spring carnival.

also following your tips tbagrocks..
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2012, 08:13:04 AM
also resuming is super mare Mosheen who won almost everything so far only filly to test her (and flog her) was Atlantic Jewel who sadly is out for the spring,

Race 7 at Flemington No1
Mosheen has won 7 of 14 races including the VRC Crown Oaks (remember Atlantic Jewel missed this) Randwick Guineas, Australian Guineas,

so $20 on Mosheen is a good bet? @$6
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 08, 2012, 09:48:13 AM
don't think we'll see those odd's again, won 2 of 3 first up ;D but she's not really a sprinter and has bigger fish to fry, but still worth a look
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 14, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
                                                                       Moonee Valley 15/9/1012
Race 4 Japan Racing Association Trophy 2500m
1) Tanby, last spring Won Bendigo Cup, 2nd to Melbourne Cup winner Dunaden in the Geelong Cup
Didn't run in the major Cups, good stayer should show class in this

Race 5 Mitty's McEwan Stakes  1000m
2) Golden Archer, won 8 of 13, good 3yr old last year returned in winning form recently
4) Bel Sprinter, Won 5 of 9 classy sprinter, one to follow

Race 6 Dato' Tan Chin Nam Stakes 1600m Group 2
1) Heart of Dreams, old campaigner usually around the mark, hasn't won for ages
2) Midas Touch, placed in some big races last spring
3) Linton, placed in big races in Autumn 2011 including 2nd Australian Cup
4) Recindled Interest, top galloper but I'm losing interest, still the favorite again, watch with interest
5) Green Moon, 2nd 2011 Caulfield Cup and a favorite here
6) Alcopop, SA's grand Stayer, Won 2009 Caulfield Cup, suprises for wins occasionally
7) Happy Trails, returned with a win, then 2nd behind Sincero in the Memsie 1400m
8) Sneek a Peek[/color, Moody's star Italian recruit, wait for further, watch
12)Ethiopia, Interesting horse, only four starts and won ATC Derby at Randwick in April FOLLOW
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: j959 on September 18, 2012, 12:05:16 PM
can't say I have heard of it, might have a look
I dont punt on the horses but we had a work comp last year and it was just the fun to have after the dream team season. I like the spring carnival but dont punt so this is just the tonic for me.

tbagrocks have a look at  www.starstable.com.au

You get a mill to pick 10 horses and a jockey, you trade and the person who gets the most prizemoney wins from the live races over the spring carnival.

also following your tips tbagrocks..
i did it last year as well as the HUN 'superstable' ...

probably not this year, cos i'm hoping to head over to Melbs and won't have usual internet access ...
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on September 20, 2012, 10:38:10 AM
I've created a league for star stable if anyone wants to join CODE is 190934
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on September 24, 2012, 02:50:42 PM
Does anyone do Star Stable for the spring carnival?

Me, But I've no idea what I'm doing...lol

Do you know any strategy?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on September 25, 2012, 03:55:51 PM
Does anyone do Star Stable for the spring carnival?

Me, But I've no idea what I'm doing...lol

Do you know any strategy?
I had a great strategy last year followed everything and came about 4th out of 8 at work. The winner picked the Caulfied, Cox Plate and the Melbourne Cup winners. So that is your strategy. Winners in the big races.
The first two meets haven't got big prizemoney so I think I'll try and pick Caulfield, Cox and Melb winners with my big guns and try and sus out some cheap prospects initially. Its fun picking a jockey also.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on September 27, 2012, 07:19:51 AM
Does anyone do Star Stable for the spring carnival?

Me, But I've no idea what I'm doing...lol

Do you know any strategy?
I had a great strategy last year followed everything and came about 4th out of 8 at work. The winner picked the Caulfied, Cox Plate and the Melbourne Cup winners. So that is your strategy. Winners in the big races.
The first two meets haven't got big prizemoney so I think I'll try and pick Caulfield, Cox and Melb winners with my big guns and try and sus out some cheap prospects initially. Its fun picking a jockey also.

Thanks for that! :)

I was contemplating just loading up on whomevers in the first race meeting. You really have to know who will be racing the week after right? And when you say pick big race winners, is that by trading them in? or having big names from the start?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 28, 2012, 12:27:56 AM
We have a big meet at Moonee Valley friday night and the feture races are

R7 The Bill Stutt Stakes 1600m
1) Pierro, this champion 3yr old is still underfeated and won the Slipper! get down to the TAB to watch
2) Jimando, talanted Colt won 3 of 6, two straight wins since resuming

then we have traditional a Cups lead-up race, big names here
R8 JRA CUP 2040m
1) Precedence, Hasn't delivered yet but the 7yr old Cummings Gelding has class
2) Alcopop, Star SA stayer getting older
4) Moyenne Corniche, former international stayer hasn't delivered yet
5) Dance With Her, 6yr Mare won 11 races, handy stayer was 2nd 2012 Brisbane Cup, went well first up for 5th
6) Excluded Favorite! won 7/15, staying type hasn't won anything big yet!
7) Miss Artistic, 4yr Mare won NZ Oaks
9) Sabrage, 4yr Horse, 2nd SA Derby, 3rd RVC Derby won Norman Robinson, won 2/14 but pay to follow for Cups
13) Frueling, 5yr Horse, former Irish Stallion, won 4 of 5 in Australia(country races) trained by A Freedman, pay to follow
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 28, 2012, 02:40:01 AM
SATURDAY ar Rosehill

Don't miss
R3 the Golden Pendant 1400m
1) More Joyous, Superstar, hasn't lost since last October :o Winning Group 1 races the Queen of the Turf, The Doncaster, The Queen Elizabeth Stakes, She's now won 20 of 27 races!

other stakes races include

R4 Stan Fox Stakes 1400m 3yr olds
1) Albrecht, won 2/4, including the Up and Coming Stakes in August
2) Kabayan, 5:1-3-1 Waterhouse trained, won once  but 2nd in three stakes races
4) Magic Shaft, no joke that's his name, 6:1-3-1 Talanted Kiwi who only missed his first place in first run in Aus

R5 Shannon Stakes 1500m
1)Fat Al, won 5 of 8, including two stakes races

SUNDAY at Caulfield

R5 Caulfield Guineas Prelude 1400m, plenty of talant here
1) Epaulette, won 3/6, won G1 Golden Rose two weeks ago in Sydney
2) Ashokan, won 6:1-1-1, 3rd Golden Rose
3) Shamexpress, 5:1-1-1, 9th Golden Rose, 3rd Mcniel (2nd was Kabayan) 1st Sep
5) Awesome Bro 4:2-1-0, 2nd behind Jimando in the Henry Bucks Stakes 8th Sep (Jimando runs friday against pierro)
6) Dominant, 3:0-2-0, 5th Henry Bucks

R6 Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes 1400m
1) Glass Harmonium, Star resuming, led all the way to win the Mackinnon Stakes, needs further but goes well fresh
2) Pinwheel, 7yr, 34:12-9-4, sprint to mile galloper, 4th Doncaster, won two of two since resuming
3) We're Gonna Rock, Class Sprinter/miler 15:5-2-0, won Bobby Lewis first up, Kavanagh! Follow
4) Second Effort, 24:9-3-3, another classy sprinter/miler
6) Solzhenitsyn, record of 22:10-2-4, miler, stepping up in class to run with the big boys, WATCH
8) Shanghai Warrior 4yr Horse 10:5-2-1, won Stakes race two starts back so has class, 16th in the Bobby Lewis
9) Moment of Change 4yr Gelding 8:4-0-3, Moody/Nolen combo, can stap up here, favorite!
10) Mr Make Believe, 19:9-3-0, hasn't risen to Group level yet but Moody factor!
11) Strike the Stars, 4y G, 13:1-3-1, ran well in all the 3yr old staying races without winning, 2nd behind Mosheen Aus Guineas
12) That's The One, 8:3-1-0, looks a talanted 4yr old
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 01, 2012, 02:43:51 AM
It's Sunday night and all the racings done and won, here's what happened

Friday Night at Moonee Valley
Pierro won the Bill Stutt Stakes in his first Melbourne run easilly, now won 8 from 8  :o andis the Cox Plate fav

Schnitzeland, Red hot fav won again

JRA CUP 2040m
IronStien vetran stayer flashed home for third
Dance With Her, My Spring Smokie, ran a good second and I fancy her in the Cups :o

Saturday at Rosehill
More Joyous continued her Amazing run and won again

Stan Fox Stakes
Kabayan, the 3yr old I'm following won nicely but may struggle to beat Pierro and Epaulette
Albrecht started fav but ran second

Sunday at Caulfield
Caulfield Guineas Prelude 1400m, 3yr old
Epaulette, Helmet's half brother romped in the Prelude

Rupert Clarke Stakes, Group 1 1400m
Moment of Change   won his 5th race from 9 and confirmed he is a major player this spring
We're Gonna Rock, is all class ran strong second
Glass Harmonium, ran a brilliant fourth and is one to follow at 2000m again!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 01, 2012, 07:14:01 AM
Thanks tbagrocks - Dance with her is in the stable!!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 01, 2012, 08:56:13 PM
Great stuff. Will be signing back on to read this saturday morning for more tips!
+1 tba!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: j959 on October 02, 2012, 06:23:50 PM
It's Sunday night and all the racings done and won, here's what happened

Friday Night at Moonee Valley
Pierro won the Bill Stutt Stakes in his first Melbourne run easilly, now won 8 from 8  :o andis the Cox Plate fav

Schnitzeland, Red hot fav won again

JRA CUP 2040m
IronStien vetran stayer flashed home for third
Dance With Her, My Spring Smokie, ran a good second and I fancy her in the Cups :o

Saturday at Rosehill
More Joyous continued her Amazing run and won again

Stan Fox Stakes
Kabayan, the 3yr old I'm following won nicely but may struggle to beat Pierro and Epaulette
Albrecht started fav but ran second

Sunday at Caulfield
Caulfield Guineas Prelude 1400m, 3yr old
Epaulette, Helmet's half brother romped in the Prelude

Rupert Clarke Stakes, Group 1 1400m
Moment of Change   won his 5th race from 9 and confirmed he is a major player this spring
We're Gonna Rock, is all class ran strong second
Glass Harmonium, ran a brilliant fourth and is one to follow at 2000m again!
Moment of Change - good run, likes that outside draw it seems ... hurt me in a First 4 for that race - didn't think he'd go top 2 but definitely thought he'd place ... so bet = FAIL ... :(    ;)
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 04, 2012, 10:52:07 PM
Saturday the 6th October, we have the Epsom, Spring Stakes, Metropoloton and Turnbull Stakes

Randwick, Sydney

R4. Craven Plate, 2000m
2. Mourayan, Ultra consistant stayer, fancied here but will have eye's on the Caulfield Cup I'm sure
4. Class In Class, International won good races in England, not beaten far last time by very good horses,Follow
6. Hurculian Prince, Gai's star stayer is capable but hasn't won for a while
7. Western Symbol, won 6 of 17, beat good horses last campain and could be a smokie this spring, Watch
10. Dare to Dream, won 3 of 5, stepping up in class but.. Trained by Bart  :o Big Smokie

R5. Spring Champion Stakes Group 1. 2000m 3yr olds
1. Proisir, 3 starts 3 wins Trained by Gai, beat class 3ys olds last time in the Spring stakes, going for the Derby
2. It's A Dundeel 4:4-0-0, unbeaten, won stakes race in the Gloaming, interesting!
3. Honorius, 9:2-1-1, looks a good galloper, 2nd in the Gloaming
4. Lunar Rise, 3rd Gloaming, Cummings stayer getting better over distance, pay to follow
5. Laser Flash, another getting better with distance
6. Bradman, 8:2-1-0 Trained by Hayes so is a smokie to keep an eye on now getting over more ground
7. King Of Olympia, 3:1-0-0 Same as Bradman keep an eye on, Trained by Gai

R6. Flight Stakes Group 1. 1600m 3yr fillies
1. Dear Demi, 11:3-2-2, good filly, consistant in top company, 4th Tea Rose Stakes 22/9/2012 Won Furious Stks 8/9
2. Longport, 5:3-1-0, Big smokie, won 3 of five! won the Tea Rose
3. Jade Marauder, 8:2-1-3, 3rd Tea Rose, 3rd Furious
5. Norzita, 5:1-2-0, 2nd Tea Rose, Trained by Bart
6. Urban Groove, 2 from 2, won Reg Allen Stakes last week, Waterhouse trained
8. Duet, 3:1-1-0, Cummings filly stepping up in class

R7. Epsom Handicap, 1600m Group 1.
1. Shoot Out,Superstar! Most consistant Galloper, beat these horses in the George Main 22/9/2012
2. Rangirangdoo, 2nd behind Shoot Out in the George Main, can run a place again
3. Secret Admirer, 19:3-5-7, class Mare 3rd George Main, doesn't win many
6. Ambidexter, 4yr 12:3-2-1, Beat Fat Al 15th Sep, and ran 4th in the Randwick and Rosehill Guineas so has class, Follow
7. Rolling Pin, 23:8-4-2, Won last week in a boilover and could win again
8. Fat Al, 4yr, 9:5-2-1, beaten last week but has class
9. Kontiki Park 7yr 30:8-9-2, has won stakes races but hard here
11.Wild And Proud, 4yr, 12:3-0-5, did beat Manawanui last Autumn
13.Said Com, 4yr 13:2-4-3, Ran 2nd Randwick Guineas in Autumn behind Mosheen
14.Lightinthenite 5yr, 11:5-2-2, 2nd last week beating Fat Al, big class test here

R8 the Metropolitan Group 1. 2400m, Sydney's main biggest Spring Race
3. Lamasery 21:11-2-3 Very good horse, 3rd in this last year
4. Permit Good stayer should go well
5. The Verminator, will go for the Cups but dosn't seem to have winning class
6. Glencadam Gold 5yr 11:5-2-1, Won last three including beating Permit,  looks a class stayer on the rise. Watch
7. Polish Knight, 4yr 9:2-2-0, Ran 2nd Australian Derby, pay to keep an eye on
8. Crafty Irna, 5yr Mare, 23:3-7-1, ultra consistand Mare, tested here
9. Stout Hearted 5yr 16:6-1-3, Running well since stepping up to stakes level
10.Reuben Percival, 5yr 24:5-3-3, Beat the Verminator and Crafty Irna in the Winter Stks before runnung 5th Brisbane Cup
11.Kelinni 5yr 16:7-2-3, stepped up to stakes class with a 4th and a win
12.Buxted, 7yr, 12:4-0-2, former Brit won JRA Trophy at Moonee Vallee last start
13.Fictional Accoint, 8yr 25:6-2-3, Irish galloper ran 2nd JRA Trophy
14.Peal of Bells5yr 15:4-3-1, looks a competitive Stayer
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 05, 2012, 01:11:08 AM
Flemington

R2. Uci Stakes 1800m 3yr olds                                  "May pay to watch this race for Derby form"
1. Jimundo 7:3-0-2, he's a talanted Colt
2. Tatra 8:2-0-2 Beat good horse Proberb last start
3. Hvasstan 4:2-1-0, first stakes race
4. Philippi 2:2-0-0 won at Moonee Valley

R3, Vintage Stakes 1410m 3yr olds
Watch this race for Caulfield Guineas form

This is an important Cup lead-up race so follow closely
R4. the Bart Cummings 2520m
2. Maluckyday, Hasn't been in good form since his 2nd Melbourne Cup two years ago!
3. Seville, 13:1-5-1, In 2011 ran 2nd Irish Derby 4th Irish StLedger, getting to his distance now Watch Closely
5. Shenzhou Steeds 17:8-1-0, won Ipswich and CDRA Cups in Qlnd in June and 4th Natralizm stakes two weeks ago
6. Tanby 20:7-3-3, was in great form last spring, keep an eye out
7. Rialya, won Adelaide cup but done nothing this spring yet
8. Exceptionally All he's ever done was 3rd in the Natrulaism stakes last start
10.Dame Claire 5yr Mare, 28-6-2-2, has won two stakes staying races including Ansett stakes at Mornington last start, the other was in May over 3200m at Flemington  :o  could be a smokie to follow

R5. Blazer Stakes 1410m Mares
There is a list of good Mares in the raceincluding Raspberries, Invest, Shopaholic, Hi Belle but... The feture will be just how Champion Mosheen ,goes who won everything last Autumn and the Oaks last Spring, nothing yet this spring
1. Mosheen, 4yr Mare 16:7-3-2, Won Randwick Guineas, Australian Guineas and Crown Oaks

R6. Edward Manifold Stakes 1600m 3yr fillies
Only really a race to see if Members Joy, Maybe Discreet and Commanding Jewel are up to it this spring
1. Members Joy, 7:2-1-0 Stakes winner two starts back then 5th behind Lady of Harrods and Commanding Jewel
4. Maybe Discreet 5-2-2-0, Impressive SA filly won Morphetteville Guineas last start
5. Commanding Jewel 3:2-1-0, only just beaten by the impressive Lady of Harrods

R7. Turnbull stakes 2000m Group 1.
1. Whinchester 8yr 26:6-6-3, this horse was brought to Australia for a reason but not for this! will have to improve
2. Niwot 30:9-4-1, Showed his staying ability by winning Sydney cup, but he needs further than this 2000m
3. December Draw, slowly getting back to his best, has to be a chance
4. Ethiopia Aus Derby winner only had 5 starts  :o Watch very closely
5. Recindled Interest 18:3-2-3, may just win a race soon, won't be backing him waiting for it!
6. Happy Trails, 26:4-6-5, In great form can give this a shake! Great value here
7. Zabeelionaire, SA Derby winner needing more ground
8. Southern Speed, She's always a chance whenever she runs
9. Voila Ici, 30:13-6-5, the star galloper is getting closer, 2nd in the Underwood
10.Linton, 6ys 18:4-2-4, has some ability but doesn'twin to many
11.Green Moon 17:5-3-0, 2nd in the Caulfield cup, 2nd last start behind Happy Trails, current fav
12.Moudre, 21:7-4-3, good staying type and fairly consistant
14.Sanagas, 13:7-1-0, the star German hasn't fired a shot yet in Aus, still worth watching
15.Sneak A Peek 13:6-2-1 Moody's Boom Italian is slowly working into form
       which one of these two Moody International Gallopers will hit their straps first? Sangas or Sneak a peak?

tbags best:
Randwick Race 4 No 10, Dare to Dream, could be a real smokie
Flemington Race 5 No 1. Mosheen, those odds look far to good to refuse, had two runs in should be hart to beat
Flemington Race 8 No 4. Bel Sprinter, back to form and should go close again
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: eagles929406 on October 05, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
Does anyone do Star Stable for the spring carnival?

Me, But I've no idea what I'm doing...lol

Do you know any strategy?
I had a great strategy last year followed everything and came about 4th out of 8 at work. The winner picked the Caulfied, Cox Plate and the Melbourne Cup winners. So that is your strategy. Winners in the big races.
The first two meets haven't got big prizemoney so I think I'll try and pick Caulfield, Cox and Melb winners with my big guns and try and sus out some cheap prospects initially. Its fun picking a jockey also.


im in there as well should be good have done them each year, and you really need to pick the winner of the major races to have any chance at overall, came 23rd two years back, good luck to all and hope a dubai trip to one of us
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 05, 2012, 02:03:41 PM
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Any feedback cheered.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 05, 2012, 04:47:07 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img20/2532/fivefastlegs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/fivefastlegs.jpg/)

Any feedback cheered.

Just was talking about Polish Knight with my brother and have stuck him in. The rest looks good. its a bit hard picking those left overs at 25K.
Nash Rawiller looks the goods for jockey also have him as well.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 05, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
Thanks. Still tinkering with my stable. DO you think I have enough horses that will race the following week?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 05, 2012, 07:20:35 PM
Not sure on Molte Bene when is the horse running all I can find is the thousand guinees on 17th which is not part of star stable. The following week is about the Caulfield Guinees and there only one horse to get isn't it.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 04:24:20 AM
Finalized my Star Stable and there is some value here, I had 125 00 left for two horses when I saw Voila Ici and Lady of Harrods at 50 000  :o :o :o what a steal! I went with Manighar and Pierro as the guns and looked for value horses and found a few

tbags Rocks
Manigar,         $225 000
Peirro             $225 000
Bel Sprinter     $125 000, great velue for a horse that keeps winning
Ethiopia           $125 000, risky but could be a freak
Happy Trails,    $75 000, Happy me when I saw this price!  8)
Dance With Her $50 000, She should prove some great value
Lady of Harrods $50 000, if her odds are as good as her value I'm going to be a rich man!
Voila Ici            $50 000, How the fridge is he that price? Lock Lock Lock  ;D
Dame Claire,     $50 000, She's won two long distance stakes races  ;)
Dare To Dream $25 000, now that's what I call value! Any horse with winning form from Ireland is a good risk
Luke Nolan, think I'll count on peter Moody having a bit to say about the Spring  ;)

Upon learning about trades, I have decided to bring in Shoot Out and trade to Pierro on Sunday  ;D

Actually I made a few changes wanting horses racing this week, so bluddy hard so many horses I want!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 06, 2012, 05:55:47 AM
Finalized my Star Stable and there is some value here, I had 125 00 left for two horses when I saw Voila Ici and Lady of Harrods at 50 000  :o :o :o what a steal! I went with Manighar and Pierro as the guns and looked for value horses and found a few

tbags Rocks
Manigar,         $225 000
Peirro             $225 000
Bel Sprinter     $125 000, great velue for a horse that keeps winning
Ethiopia           $125 000, risky but could be a freak
Happy Trails,    $75 000, Happy me when I saw this price!  8)
Dance With Her $50 000, She should prove some great value
Lady of Harrods $50 000, if her odds are as good as her value I'm going to be a rich man!
Voila Ici            $50 000, How the fridge is he that price? Lock Lock Lock  ;D
Dame Claire,     $50 000, She's won two long distance stakes races  ;)
Dare To Dream $25 000, now that's what I call value! Any horse with winning form from Ireland is a good risk
Luke Nolan, think I'll count on peter Moody having a bit to say about the Spring  ;)

Upon learning about trades, I have decided to bring in Shoot Out and trade to Pierro on Sunday  ;D

Actually I made a few changes wanting horses racing this week, so bluddy hard so many horses I want!
Nice stable tba well I think everyone will bring Pierro in next week to maximise horses this week. The big prizemoney is for the big 3 races of the carnival so even if you win all of them you still have to go well this week to be up there with the leaders overall.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 06:06:14 AM
I've gone
Pierro=Shoot Out, rich race the Epsom and might trade back next week
Dame Claire=Philippi, just looking to fatten him up as a cash cow
Lady of Harrods=Proisir, again the Spring stakes is a rich race and Proisir could be the Derby winner
Dance With Her=Urban Groove, hopefully she wins and rises in value, will be trading Dancey back in!

So I've gone for runners this week and also cash cows, need to find a way to get Pierro, Sincero and More Joyous in
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 06, 2012, 06:16:00 AM
I've left 125k on the bench for Pierro next week to keep it to one trade with the horse that spuds it up this week.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 07:41:26 AM
Finalized my Star Stable and there is some value here, I had 125 00 left for two horses when I saw Voila Ici and Lady of Harrods at 50 000  :o :o :o what a steal! I went with Manighar and Pierro as the guns and looked for value horses and found a few

tbags Rocks
Manigar,         $225 000
Peirro             $225 000
Bel Sprinter     $125 000, great velue for a horse that keeps winning
Ethiopia           $125 000, risky but could be a freak
Happy Trails,    $75 000, Happy me when I saw this price!  8)
Dance With Her $50 000, She should prove some great value
Lady of Harrods $50 000, if her odds are as good as her value I'm going to be a rich man!
Voila Ici            $50 000, How the fridge is he that price? Lock Lock Lock  ;D
Dame Claire,     $50 000, She's won two long distance stakes races  ;)
Dare To Dream $25 000, now that's what I call value! Any horse with winning form from Ireland is a good risk
Luke Nolan, think I'll count on peter Moody having a bit to say about the Spring  ;)

Upon learning about trades, I have decided to bring in Shoot Out and trade to Pierro on Sunday  ;D

Actually I made a few changes wanting horses racing this week, so bluddy hard so many horses I want!
Ok here's my new Stable

Manighar         does anything need to be said?
Shoot Out        will probably trade to Pierro next week, I'm trying to win the rich Epsom
Bel Sprinter      sprint star hopefully wins today and risis in price and hello More Jous or Pierro
Ocean Park       the star kiwi was only $100 000 won 5 of 9 including the G1 Underwood
Fat Al               could be a ripper and fav for the rich Epsom today
Urban Groove    hopefully she wins, tradable
Proisir               should win the spring stakes and would be the Derby fav
Voila Ici            We all know about him now after that second in the Underwood
Dare To Dream  International, won 3 of 5
Philippi.            pure cash cow

trade targets
Lady of Harrods
Dame Claire
Pierro
More Joyous
Lights of Heaven
Sincero
Ethiopia                                  Also gone with Glen Boss this week he seems to have good rides in every race
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 06, 2012, 12:23:58 PM
Anyone here playing Sportal Dreamteam, welcome to join.

http://horseracingdreamteam.sportal.com.au/league (http://horseracingdreamteam.sportal.com.au/league)

invite code: 290846
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 03:51:10 PM
I'm having a ripping day on the punt! Al, Mosheen, Maybe Discreet!!! Dare to Dream for place at $2.30

Had Fat Al in my stable but Shoot Out will cost me! Shoot Out to Pierro next week!

had some winners to  ;D and the day is not over!

wow wow is Mosheen good! I won a bundle today at $4.20 we won't see those odds for a while, Cox Plate chance?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 05:55:48 PM
How'd we go guys? I had Fat Al win the Epsom, Philippi won a small race at $25 000 he goes up nicely! Dare to Dream ran third, Proisir second in a G1

Shoot Out, Urban Groove, Bel Sprinter, Voila Ici all spudded up!

Glen Boss won 1 I think but a few places!

So Shoot Out to Pierro and maybe Urban Groove or Bel Sprinter to Lady of Harrods this week

Dame Claire was so green, when she learns to race properly she will be some horse! I still won nicely on her paying 2.30 a place!
also Maybe Discreet won nicely and Mosheen and Fat Al so I did well on the punt!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 06, 2012, 06:26:12 PM
I'll Probably get on the horse bets next week.  :)
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 06, 2012, 07:52:27 PM
How'd we go guys? I had Fat Al win the Epsom, Philippi won a small race at $25 000 he goes up nicely! Dare to Dream ran third, Proisir second in a G1

Shoot Out, Urban Groove, Bel Sprinter, Voila Ici all spudded up!

Glen Boss won 1 I think but a few places!

So Shoot Out to Pierro and maybe Urban Groove or Bel Sprinter to Lady of Harrods this week

Dame Claire was so green, when she learns to race properly she will be some horse! I still won nicely on her paying 2.30 a place!
also Maybe Discreet won nicely and Mosheen and Fat Al so I did well on the punt!
Just got home from work and trying to find out the results. Only had green moon as a winner. How did nash raweller go. Pissed off with Fat Al had him in the stable all week and my brother talked me out and I put Polish knight and it ran last - he''s going to get a serve when I catch up with him.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
I think Nash had one winner and like 3-4 seconds but not sure, about the same as my Glen Boss!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 06, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
I think Nash had one winner and like 3-4 seconds but not sure, about the same as my Glen Boss!
Not a great day a first and a second and with Nash could end up with 700k or so. They take there time putting the results up from memory may be there in the morning.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
I thought Super Coach was bad! but hey they got 300 000 teams to disect, what's SS excuse?

Thank flower pot I got the Epsom winner, keeps me in the game!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 06, 2012, 08:26:05 PM
I thought Super Coach was bad! but hey they got 300 000 teams to disect, what's SS excuse?

Thank flower pot I got the Epsom winner, keeps me in the game!
Very early days the secret is to win the big 3 Caulfield, Melb, and Cox Plate and then pick up consistent cash along the way. It hard enough to pick a winner in one of those 3 races let alone all 3 but a guy at work did it last year and he was still a fair way from the the trip to Dubai.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 06, 2012, 08:37:10 PM
Fridgen 13 000th already and I thaught I went ok  :-\ Pitty Glen Boss couldn't get the favored runners he had closer I might have beaten all the Nash punters  ??? Well time to bring in Pierro, but just what to do with the second trade?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 06, 2012, 08:41:22 PM
Ha ha the leader has picked 5 winners Fat Al, Green Moon, Its a Dundeel, Norzita and Gencadom Gold  and with Nash has 1.8 mill. You needed 1.5 mill to get top 50.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 07, 2012, 08:09:25 PM
Any tips from this meet from anyone, especially cheapies?

I didn't mind the run of Dare To Dream (was 25K - Now 50k) I heard on radio it has been nominated for cups, and It's a bart cummings.

Of course you'd have to get on Glencadam Gold after that effort!

I thought everyone would be on Nash Rawiller, will have a look at his mounts next week, but can't see me trading Gai's number one guy!

Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 08, 2012, 07:17:10 AM
Any tips from this meet from anyone, especially cheapies?

I didn't mind the run of Dare To Dream (was 25K - Now 50k) I heard on radio it has been nominated for cups, and It's a bart cummings.

Of course you'd have to get on Glencadam Gold after that effort!

I thought everyone would be on Nash Rawiller, will have a look at his mounts next week, but can't see me trading Gai's number one guy!


Well I suppose you would not want any tips from the last stable atm
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 08, 2012, 09:50:15 AM
Well I suppose you would not want any tips from the last stable atm
I am open tips from anyone. Did you do that badly?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 08, 2012, 09:54:37 AM
Lady of Harrods if she runs this week, Lights of Heaven, Dance With Her, Ocean Park, can Sincero win the Toorak?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 11, 2012, 12:17:45 PM
Surerstar Manigher is out of the Carnival! And I put him in my stable last week :-\

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/superracing/peter-moody-loses-manighar-for-spring-as-stayer-succumbs-to-knee-injury/story-fn67lu29-1226493470626
So how does this change things especially the Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 11, 2012, 01:54:53 PM
This week is Gueneas day Saturday at Caulfied with the Caulfield Gueneas, Caulfield Stakes (formally the Yallumba stakes) and Toorak Handycap

R2 Blue Saphire Stakes 3yr olds, 1200m
This looks a match race between Sizzling and Snitzerland with boom filly Snitzerland the hot favorite! Also she's the Slipper runner up to Pierro!
    Sizzling has a similar record having won 5 of 8 so it's a big match up, Sizzling might just need more distance.

R4 Schillaci Stakes 1000m, this is a traditional spring sprint and is wide open
1. Buffering, 27:10-7-4, One of the best sprinters in the country with a great record
2. Temple of Boom, 32:10-4-6, good stakes performer and usually not far away
3. First Command, 28:10-6-2, Wins a few but struggles to beat the topliners
4. Pampelonne, 4yr Horse, 8:5-2-0, Great record but only managed 6th in the Doomben 10 000, Watch in this class
5. Golden Archer, 4y Horse 14:8-2-1, looking like a real class sprinter , Follow
6. Stirling Grove, 6y, 23:-7-5-3, good SA horse third here last year, can be prominent
7. Snitzem, 4y H 8:3-0-3, interesting runner, wins easier grades but big test here!
8. Didntcostalot, 4y H 11:4-2-0, seems to go ok in stakes class but big test
9. Lone ZRock, 5y Mare 18-4-2-3, She did win the Goodwood and Bobby Lewis last year, has a chance
10.Malasun, 3y filly 3:1-0-0, has 51kg here and won big race first start, watch her closely

R5 Caulfield Stakes 2000m Group 1, formally the Yallumba
2. Sincero, 24:12-1-0, Not sold on him at this distance
4. Alcopop 8y G 30:9-3-0, their still trying with him, was going better last spring still ran 9th here, pass
5. Sanagas, 7y G 13:7-1-0, German still building up to his distance, Cummings factor for the Cups
6. Ocean Park, 4y H 9:5-3-0, if he's not in your stable why not! current odds $1,60
7. Sabrage, 4y H 15:2-1-2, time to lift! May still want further
8. Vatuvei, 4y G 13:2-1-3, Trained by Moodey, won the St Ledger, I'd keep an eye on him!

R6 Toorak Hcp 1600m G 1
1. More Joyous, 6y Mare won 21 of 28, what more needs to be said
2. King Mufhasa, 8y G 52:19-6-5, Kiwi won this last year!
3. Glass Harmonium 7y H 25:5-5-2, consistant galloper can win big races
4. Yosei 5y Mare 28:4-1-2, doesn't seem to win in these classes
5. Steps In Time, 5y M 12:6-1-1, Give her a chance to see how she goes here
6. Illo 7y H 22:5-4-1, hasn't won in Australia
7. Solzhenitsyn, 6y G 23:10-2-5, Ran 3rd behing Moment of Change last run, Has to bee some chance
8. Spirit Song 5y M 22:7-6-1, has won some stakes races and has some claims
9. Tokugawa 5y G 9:4-1-1, big class rise here

R7 Caulfield Guineas 3yr olds, 1600m Group 1
1. Pierro 8 starts 8 wins Including the Slipper, has taken the mantle from The Great Mare
2. Epaulette 7:4-1-1, seems the most capable of an upset
3. AllToHard 7:3-1-1, hasen't been the same since he ran into Pierro, his first few wins were as good as Big Sis
4. Ashokan, 7:1-1-1, seems to have some ability
5. Road Trippin 10:1-2-2, might struggle to get close
6. Carringbush Jack 6:1-3-0, 2nd behind Pierro, Bill Stutt Stakes at huge odds
7. Awesome Bro 5:2-1-1, has some ability and will do well to place
8. Let Go Lenni 3:1-1-1, Big run in the Prelude when 2nd suggests he can feature

R8 Herbert Power Stakes 2400m
1. Precedence 7y G 42:7-5-1, not sure he's ever been up to the top class stayinh races
2. Gatewood 5y Horse 8:4-2-1, Europian Raider with big record Follow
3. Ironstein 7y G 43:8-2-9, doesn't win big races but around the mark
4. Shahwardi 7y H 20:3-5-6, making Aus debue gone well in big French races, Watch closely
5. Bianmick 6y G 28:9-1-5, Won the JRA Cup so has a chance
6. Dance With Her 6y M 42:11-10-5, my smokey ;D Consistant and has a big show here
7. Reuben Percival 6y G 25:5-3-4, 3rd last week in metro, seems to be around the mark in these races
8. Exceptionally 6y M 31:4-4-4, not sold and will watch with interest
9. Excluded 5y G 16:7-2-1, Trying to make his way into stakes class, 8th JRA Cup
10.Mr O'ceirin 5y G 19:7-2-1, another trying to make the stakes grade, 2nd Naturalism stakes

Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 11, 2012, 10:02:40 PM
Was looking this arvo and had Ocean Park in. Its a bit of a toss of the coin between Nash and Corey for the jockey this week.
Also tbagrocks your analysis is tremendous!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 11, 2012, 10:14:31 PM
Cheers mate, jsut trying to give back to ff I guess  :D

I think Brown, Nash has two certainties but Corey has one and more chances for me, was hard not to bring in Dance With Her but this Gatewood could be big and had to go Manighar=Pierro :-\ lol Is Dancey gets up I'll be spewing, well not really as I'll have some money on her but my Stable will cry!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 13, 2012, 08:46:56 AM
I only got two horses in! Any tips on the bell?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 13, 2012, 09:50:35 AM
I'll have "Dance with her" each way, also see what price More Joyous is and if she's $2 or more get on!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on October 13, 2012, 11:57:17 AM
I'll have "Dance with her" each way, also see what price More Joyous is and if she's $2 or more get on!

I brought her in, but you gotta worry about 60kg!
Also kept N.Rawiller.

I have Pierro, Sabrage, More Joyous and Excluded in today.

Tips people???......where are the tippppppps!  :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 13, 2012, 12:13:36 PM
Adelaide Race 1, 2 Splash of Moet 7 Latvian Amber lol this horse was tipped earlier this morning but I went Moety
Race 8, 16, Essay Raider
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 13, 2012, 04:04:19 PM
So Pierro is beatable andd the Great Mare's little bro has won

All To Hard came from last to just get over Pierro in the Caulfield Guinneas, he now has to be a favorite for the Derby I would think!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 13, 2012, 08:45:22 PM
Sorry about my tips :-[ that's racing I guess!

How'd we go? I got 624k about 10 000th, overall 11 700, Corey Brown rode two winners for 200 000
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 14, 2012, 03:21:50 AM
Sorry about my tips :-[ that's racing I guess!

How'd we go? I got 624k about 10 000th, overall 11 700, Corey Brown rode two winners for 200 000
I thought I had Corey Brown and just had a look and Nash was there. So I must of forgot to change the jockey after reversing late Friday. Oh well it only lost me 50K.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on October 14, 2012, 03:28:55 PM
I was going to put $50 on All Too Hard too. I got caught up yesterday arvo and forgot all about it  :(
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 19, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
It's time for the big races and the Caulfield Cup this saturday

Race 3 Norman Robinson Stakes G3 2000m 3yr colts/geldings, traditional Derby lead-up
1. Kabayan, 6:2-3-0, This boy impresses me and always goes well, looking to see how he goes over 2000m
2. Jimando, 8:3-0-3, has some talant but can he beat the better stayers?
4. Honorius, 10:2-1-2, 3rd in that Srping Champion Stakes behined It's a Dundeel and Proisir, looks a stayer
5. Hvassan, 5:2-2-0, Can match it with the best here
be suprised if anything else wins here

Race 4 Ethereal Stakes 2000m 3yr fillies, Oaks lead-up
Tough race with the 3 year olds stepping up to 2000m, pay to watch what happens!
1. Donna Cattive, 9:1-1-1, hard to judge but might just want the distance
2. Transonic, 10:2-3-1, May pay to have a look at her
3. Cameo, 5:2-0-0, Behind good horses last race when 4th, respect
5. Nextess, 6:0-2-2, Moody-Nolan combo but still a maiden :o Watch closely
7. Kate, 7:2-0-1, Seems to be highly rated but hasn't shown it
12.Summerbliss, 1 from1, fancied and won its maiden over 1600m

Race 5 Moonga Stakes G3 1400m
4. Galah, 4yr H 11:4-1-2, Looks an up and coming miler
5. King's Rose, 5yr M 22:8-4-2, Consistant mare and has to be favorite
6. Amah Rock, 4yr Gelding 12:3-2-3, Fairly tlanted but tested here
7. Happy Zero, 8yr G 23:8-1-4, Hasn't won for a while
12.Full of Spirit, 4yr M 12:4-1-1, Won a stakes race over 2000m but she goes alright over shorter
13.Whateverwhenever, 5yr M 24:7-4-5, She seems to have a bit of ability but will nee it

Race 6 Caulfield Sprint G2 1100m
1. Mid Summer Music, 7yr Mare 25:10-5-3, She won the Stradbroke and another Moody-Nolan combo, 3rd here last year
3. Thankgodyou'rehere, 7yr G 24:8-5-3, Seems to go ok in big races
4. Canali, 6yr G 24:7-2-5, May just struggle at the top level
5. Curtana, 5yr M 21:6-3-1, 2nd here last year and is good enough
6. Freereturn, 6yr g 23:9-5-3, has won at stakes level but tougher here
7. Howmuchdoyouloveme, 4yr g 5:41-0, Looks to be an emerging star, Follow
9. Altar, 4yr M 7:1-1-1, Mare having a go at open class sprinting

Race 7 David Jones Cup G3 2000m
1. Prairie Star, 5yr Horse 12:4-3-2, Has come from Ireland with a modist record
2. Bagman, 6 g 30:10-3-6, won some nice races in Adelaide over shorter but needs to step up here
5. Lightinthenite, 5yr g 12:5-2-2, From NSW, 4th in the Epsom and fav here
8. Dame Claire, 5yr M 29:6-2-3, needs it further but if she learns to run properly (that's right) she will be good, very good
12.Waterford Hill, 5yr g 8:4-0-0, Stepping up but may enjoy the distance

Race 9 Tristarc Stakes G2 1400m Mares only
1. Mosheen, 4ys M 17:8-3-2, The Champ won well last time and only 1400m again but get on!
2. Streama, 4yr M 15:6-4-2, Not sure what their doing with her as she won the 2400m Aus Oaks, 1400m? :o But she's classy
3. Pear Tart 4 yr M 10:6-0-0, Won some big races in Brisbane and has to be respected
4. Red Tracer, 5yr M 20:9-3-4, Has a nack of winning but elite field here
5. Raspberries, 5yr M 20:7-4-1, Has wo stakes races but up against the best here
6. Hi Belle, 6 M 27:8-5-0, can win stakes races
7. Miss Stellabelle, 4yr M 14:3-3-2, Fairly consistant in stakes races but tough field
8. Appearance, 4yr M 7:3-1-1, promising but big test
11.Soft Sand, 4yr M 10:4-1-1, rated highly but is she up to these horses?
12.Lucky Penny, 4yr M 4:3-0-0, Big test again

tbags best
Race 3, 1. Kabayan,
Race 8, 2. Dunaden, Place bet looks good value (I got him at $3.75 Fixed Price)
Race 9, 1. Mosheen, Just a superstar
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 20, 2012, 12:23:54 AM
                                    2012 Caulfield Cup

Group 1, 2400m
1. American, 8yr H 32:11-4-4, He's back for another crack, big odds this time
2. Dunaden, 7yf H 33:9-9-7, Melbourne Cup winner first run in Aus since. Won Geelong Cup last year first up,
3. Jakkalberry, 7yr H 24:10-2-3, Irishman just won the inagrual American St Leger, Watch him
5. December Draw, 7yr g 26:8-3-6, Last years favorite before injury during race, getting back to best (go Kav)
6. Voila Ici, 8yr H 31:13-6-5, running well in Oz and has to be a smokie, Watch!!
8. Sanagas, 7yr g 14:7-1-0, hasn't been close in Oz yet (Bart wouldn't be foxing would he? :o)
9. Glencadam Gold, 5yr g 12:6-2-1, wow what a win in Sydney! Can hedo it in Melbourne? Watch
10.My Quest For Peace, 5yr H 11:5-1-2, Irishman coming over with winning form
11.Niwot, 8yr g 31:9-4-1, Won the Sydney Cup but has raced better than this spring
12.Lights Of Heaven, 5yr M 17:6-3-2, Moody's star Mare just beaten last run, pay to follow
13.Secret Admirer, 5yr M 20:3-5-7, good miler stepping up the distance
14.Sneak A Peek, 5yr H 14:6-2-1, Italian who is building but not for me yet!
15.Alcopop, 8yr g 31:9-4-0, Nearly won last week and the champ can feature
16.Moudre, 7yr g 22:7-4-3, can run well in these races
17.Folding Gear, 5yr g 14:4-1-3, Won the Naturalism and looks to have some talant
18.Zabeelionaire, 4yr 15:3-1-0, Hasn't done a thing since winning the SA Derby in May
20.Gatewood, 5yr H 9:4-2-1, Britster, pay to forget last weeks first Aus run, Watch (if he gets a run)
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on October 20, 2012, 12:11:17 PM
Alcopop? Really? Isn't he like.....749 in Horse Years now?  :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 20, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
Alcopop? Really? Isn't he like.....749 in Horse Years now?  :P
:P Second not a bad effort from the Pop!

Dunny well he has to be the melbourne Cup fav now! Did we all make the money I did on him?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Noz on October 20, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
Had all my money on My Quest For Peace :(
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 25, 2012, 07:03:56 PM
Who are you on for the Cox plate on Saturday?

Pierro or Proisir I'm thinking.

Ocean Park looks good value.

Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 26, 2012, 05:06:09 AM
Who are you on for the Cox plate on Saturday?

Pierro or Proisir I'm thinking.

Ocean Park looks good value.


Its a very open race with about six horses that look good for it. The three you mentioned with Green Moon, All too Hard and More Joyous in that mix. We'll see what tbagrocks thinks with his weekly tips coming today.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 26, 2012, 01:32:30 PM
At Moonee Valley tonight is the Manikato Stakes, no Great Mare this year :-[

1. Buffering, 28:11-7-4, With such great horses leaving the Australian sprinting scene recentely, (Cav, Hay List etc..) Buffering has become the dominant sprinter, gets his chance to show why tonight!
2. Temple of Boom, 33:10-4-6, hasn't been very consistant the last year
3. We're Gonna Rock, 16:5-3-0, He is a quality horse and should place
4. Ready To Rip, 21:7-4-2, I think he can challange the best
5. Bel Sprinter, 11:6-1-0, I'm not convinced he's good enough to beat the best
6. Mental, 4yr g 10:6-0-1, Could be one to watch
7. Sea Siren, 4yr M 8:5-1-1, Won some big races in Brisbane and has a big future
8. Hallowell Bell 4yr M 16:3-6-6, Very consistant and at good odds could be a smokie
9. Satin Shoes, 4yr M 20:5-5-2, coming from good Sydney form but is big odds
10.Lone Rock, 5yr M 19:4-2-3, Will have to give her best to challange

tbags best
Buffering, not a lot of top opposition
Sea Siren, hard to dismiss her even though she's resuming
We're gonna Rock, in great form
Hallowell Bell, just so consistant
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 26, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
Saturday at Moonee Valley is the Cox Plate day

                  Race 8, W.S Cox Plate
1. Shoot Out 6yr gelding 31:9-5-5, Won first up and forget the Epsom, ultra consistant but big odds
2. Sincero 5yr g 25:12-1-1, very good horse but seems to struggle at 2000m
3. Glass Harmonium 7yr Horse 26:5-5-2, Can win big races but tough for him here
4. Green Moon 6yr H 18:6-3-0, A top liner this Spring in great form
5. Rekindled Interest 5yr g 19:3-2-3, officially now a Spud
6. Linton, out classed
7. Happy Trails 5yr g 27:4-6-5, Good miler but might be better if he dropped back to a mile
8. Etheopia 4yr g 6:1-1-2, Probably still warming up this Spring, interesting to see how he goes
9. Ocean Park 4yr H, Keeps winning and could be the horse of the Spring, my tip
10.More Joyous 6yr M 29:21-0-2, The Queen was humbled here last year, can She move into imortality?
11.Southern Speed 5yr M 24:7-4-2, Scratched from Caulfield to run here, is she better at 2000m than 2400m? Tough for her
12.Pierro 3yr Colt 9:8-1-0, it took the Great Mare's mothers Son to beat him, Will he get the distance? Maybe a little tired now and at 3yrs old 2000m is a long way, be wary, but not suprised if he won
13.All Too Hard 3yr C 8:4-1-1. the Great Mare's legacy lives on in her little bro and how was that last win wowee, is he getting better with distance as I expected? I think with his weight he is a huge chance
14.Proisir3yr C 4:3-1-0, If he couldn't beat It's a Dundeel how can he beat Pierro and All To Hard?

So here we are the grand stage of Racing Championships, plenty to like to!

tbags best
1. Ocean Park, can make a name for himself in an amazing field
2. All To Hard, chance to out shine big sis, I really like him
3. More Joyous, The Queen to hit back
4. Etheopia, could be anything yet
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on October 26, 2012, 08:14:48 PM
Hey Tbag..an omen bet for you in race 1. No 9. Twin Tea Bags. sadly a 2yo race but $5 @ 50-1 or so... :o
PS...No 14 in the cox plate for me.. :-[
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 26, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
hmm two tea bags in one cup :o maybe it's a pot and then it's all good, might have to get to the pub earlier tomozza ;D
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on October 26, 2012, 08:46:24 PM
perhaps a $1 all up with 4,9,10 12 14 in the plate. keeps your outlay down..lol..good luck.. ;D
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 26, 2012, 08:48:30 PM
Saturday at the Valley

Race 5, Vase 2040 3yr olds Group 2
1. It's A Dundeel 3yr 5:5-0-0, unbeaten and looks a real superstar, get on for the Derby
2. Viking Star 6:3-1-0, looks to have ability, from Adelaide and biggest test
4. Super Cool 4:1-1-0, up in class but distance suits

Race 6, Moonee Valley Cup 2500m G2
2. Precedence 7yr g 43:7-5-1, gets his chance in a week field
3. Rialya 5yr g 28:7-1-2, Adelaide Cup winner struggling
4. Ironstein 7r g 44:8-2-9, getting closer and should find a placing
5. Shenzhou Steeds 5yr g 18:7-1-0, won some Qld country cups and gets a chance here to prove himself
6. Moudre 7yr g 23:7-4-3, decent stayer in horrible form
7. Reuben Percival 6yr g 26:5-3-4, Did run third in the Metrop but maybe out classed
8. Ibicenco 5yr H 10:1-3-2, International in first Oz start, Doesn't seem to win though, Watch
9. Midas Touch 6yr H 20:2-3-3, 4th behind good horses last out, chance in weekish field
11Vatuvei 4yr g 14:2-1-3, has ability and when on could feature

Race 7 Crystal Mile 1600m WFA G2
1. Rangirangdoo 8yr g 31:10-9-2, Racing well before last start flop, should feature
2. Solzhenitsyn 6yr g 24:11-2-5, Looks a good horse, hard to beat
6. Ambidexter 4yr H 13:3-3-1, Star in the making, 2nd in the Epsom and should go close
7. Silent Archiever 4yr Mare 10:5-1-2, More a staying type which raises som questions (why isn't she in the Cups and staying races this spring?) but a top kiwi mare
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 27, 2012, 08:52:25 AM
Liking the look of race 9 with Tavernelle at the huge odds of 34.00 on Sportsbet.


Even a place bet is 7.00. A stronger class this race but did get the win at canterbury.  :-\

Track rating is dead 4 ATM, Tavernelle did get a place from his 3 starts on a dead track, but Spiriot song looks the goods.

Interested on your thoughts T-bag,  I think a place bet wouldn't got astray.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 27, 2012, 10:08:25 AM
Liking the look of race 9 with Tavernelle at the huge odds of 34.00 on Sportsbet.


Even a place bet is 7.00. A stronger class this race but did get the win at canterbury.  :-\

Track rating is dead 4 ATM, Tavernelle did get a place from his 3 starts on a dead track, but Spiriot song looks the goods.

Interested on your thoughts T-bag,  I think a place bet wouldn't got astray.
Unless you've seen her run and like the look it's not a good bet, there are a few classy types and she will struggle to get near them I think

Spirit Song was tough oppersition in Star of Giselle, Skyrush is racing well and Zurella has talant

Tri - 5,1,2
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 27, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
Yeah, your probably right.

She did come from behind to win at canterbury when she was 4-5-5 throughout. After being interfered at start.

I'll be on green moon for the Cox plate.  :)

Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 27, 2012, 03:13:24 PM
Had a nice Quinella win with It's A Dundeel & super cool.  8)



$250,000 @ 1.30 for the Dundeel to win and he lost.  :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 27, 2012, 05:05:24 PM
Had the tri, Dunny, Cooly and Viking 8)

How good is this All to Hard gonna be? Ocean Park looks the horse of the Spring but the Great Mares little bro has a big, big future!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 27, 2012, 05:14:30 PM
Can you believe after all the wraps I gav him I didn't put a cent on Ocean Park, had a bundle on All To Hard at the place though ;D a little bit on All to Hard and Etheopia to win

Bossy seems to love this Ocean Park and now he's a Cox Plate winner, what next for the mighty Kiwi?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Hawka on October 27, 2012, 05:18:03 PM
Wow my betting/tipping this srping has been awesome!
Picked All Too Hard in the guineas , Dunaden in the Cup and 2 random horses on Caulfied cup day and tipped All Too Hard today and he went quite well :D
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 27, 2012, 05:36:30 PM
Completely overlooked ocean park.  ::)

Even though when you look back on it, he was a logical bet.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 27, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Tavarnelle ran a nice second placing just now.

Didn't put the bet on.  ::)
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 27, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
I find the best way to bet is stick with your gut! Bad luck mate!

So suddenly it's Derby day next week, the Cup week is here just like that!

But who is the Cup favorites now? :-\ Surely Dunaden has to be there, what about Geelong cup winner Gatewood? will be following closely this week
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 27, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
Had all three in the stable Ocean Park, All to Hard and Pierro.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2012, 09:24:21 AM
any good tips for the Melbourne Cup?

i don't have a clue on horses lol
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 29, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
any good tips for the Melbourne Cup?

i don't have a clue on horses lol

Maybe Dunaden, but he is carrying that penalty and has history against him.

Americain is the odds on 'favorite', but I think there is a lot of value in Gatewood, even Lights of Heaven.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 29, 2012, 08:16:04 PM
Cheers Windigo, will the odds go down or up alot if i wait until cup day to bet? or am i better doing it now?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: fidou on October 30, 2012, 08:13:34 AM
Cheers Windigo, will the odds go down or up alot if i wait until cup day to bet? or am i better doing it now?
The final 24 horses wont be listed until after racing on Saturday so yep the odds are going to change. Gatewood is running in the Lexus so needs to win to get into the field I think. There are a few Melb Cup horses running on Saturday so there hopes rest on there runs.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on October 30, 2012, 08:25:49 AM
Cheers Windigo, will the odds go down or up alot if i wait until cup day to bet? or am i better doing it now?
The final 24 horses wont be listed until after racing on Saturday so yep the odds are going to change. Gatewood is running in the Lexus so needs to win to get into the field I think. There are a few Melb Cup horses running on Saturday so there hopes rest on there runs.

If Gatewood can back up his Geelong cup win with a win at the Lexus he will really feature heavily in the betting I'd imagine.

I don't think Dunaden can win with his handicap.  :-\

I'd never place a bet so far out until any race. A lot of things can happen and there are more chances for horses to show themselves.

I'll do the form next week to give me some idea of what to do.  :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2012, 07:25:16 PM
Saturday kicks of Cup week at Flemington with Derby Day

P.s a Horse is a Stallion, a Gelding has lost his balls :-\, so H = Stallion, g = gelding, C = Colt, M = Mare (4yr + female), f = filly

Race 1 Carbine Club Stakes, 1600m G3 3yr olds
I like the look of Proverb, not sure why he wasn't sent to the Derby.

Race 2 the Lexus, 2500m Hcp G3
1. Gatewood 5yr Horse 10:5-2-1, Won the Geelong Cup very softly and now a Cup contender, EW Tuesday ;)
2. Tanby 6yr gelding 21:8-3-3, Won the Bart, great strike rate, was in great form last spring and has found in at the right time this year.
4. Kelinni 5yr g 17:7-3-3, also has a great SR, in great form but the Metrop form is always misleading.
6. Excluded 5yr g 17:7-3-1, stepping up to class nicely after fallen fav in JRA Cup, with 2nd Herb Power
7. Reuben Percival 6yr g 27:5-4-4, 2nd in MV Cup but still needs to improve
8. Exceptionally 6yr M 33;4-4-5, only won 4 from 33 and I don't see why she's so highly rated at this level having done nothing
9. Dame Claire 5yr M 30:6-2-3, favorable distance for her and although a wayward runner is my tip!
12. Dare To Dream 5yr H 7:3-0-2, been waiting for him and will have to be in it, Watch
tbag says
Gateway, Dare to Dream, Dame Claire, Tanby

Race 4 Coolmore Stud Stakes 3yr olds 1200m Group 1
only two to look at but the betting says three ::)
1. Sizzling 3yr Colt 9:5-2-0, Boom 2yr old trying to match sprint sensation Snitzerland
9. Snitzerland 3yr filly 9:6-2-0, unbeaten this spring and really should continue
11.Nechita 3yr f 3:2-0-0, somehow she's in the betting so respect

Race 5 Mackinnon Stakes 2000m Group 1
Key Cup lead-up and some how to my discussed Winchester is the top weight
1. Winchester 8yr H 28:6-6-3, hasn't done a flowering thing in Oz and is 50/1
2. Glass Harmonium 7yr H 27:5-5-2, Won this last year but not racing like that atm, could suprise
3. Alcopop 8yr g 32:9-5-0, Can nearly be considered a Champion but not sure why he's running here, Tuesday!
4. December Draw 7yr g 27:8-3-6, not the horse he was butis capable
7. Ocean Park 4yr H 11:7-3-0, the new Australian Superstar and odds on here, last run for the spring?

Race 7 Group 1 Myer Classic, 1600m Mares
Disappointing to not the the champ Mosheen here :-\
1. Streama 4yr M 16:7-4-2, The class Mare here and after winning the 2400m ATC Oaks why isn't she staying? 1600m :o
2. Secret Admirer 5yr M 21:3-5-7, Racing in top company back aginst her sex, decent miler and a chance
3. Yosei 5yr M 29:4-1-3, Good miler who doesn't win the big races but can place,
4. Red Tracer 5yr M 21:9-3-5, top SR but only average at this top level
5. Skyerush 7yr M 38:8-8-10, Good miling mare racing well, add to multis (trifecters etc)
6. Pear Tart 4yr M 11:6-1-0, Good Mare on the rise, won some good 3yr old races and 2nd behind Streama last run
10.Oasis Boom 4yr M 6:2-2-0, Looks an impressive mare on the up

Race 8 Yallowglen Stakes, Hcp Group 2
1. Tiger Tees 5yr g 14:9-3-0,
2. Golden Archer 4yr H 15:8-3-1, Dead set sprinter very consistant and in top form
3. Pampelonne 4yr g 9:5-2-0, Ran into top sprinters in the Group 1 Schillaci with most running again here, but looks promising
4. Rolling Pin 5yr g 24:8-4-3, 3rd 1600m Epsom Dropping back to 1200m and freshened
5. Spirit of Boom 5yr H 30:6-6-3, Decent sprinter struggling for winning form
6. Howmuchdoyouloveme 4yr g 6:5-1-0, Superstar in the making
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2012, 08:33:11 PM
                             AAmi Victorian Derby

Race 6, 3yr Colds/Geldings 2500m Group 1

This seems a wide open Derby after the last two weeks of racing, hopefully my old boss Kav gets up with Super Cool ;D
1. It's A Dundeel 3yr C 6:5-1-0, Emerging Star out done last time, sure to feature
2. Jimando 3yr C 9:3-0-3, maybe struggling against the best but is still a chance at 2500m
3. Honorius 3yr C 11:2-2-2, is right in this race and is consistant
4. Super Cool 3yr g 5:2-1-0, Embarrassed Dunny last time and is rappidly improving over distance, Go Mark Kav!
5. Hvasstan 3yr C 6:3-2-0, Impressive Colt and could even start favorite! I'll be on him!
 Don't think the rest have the class of these 5 but in an early 3yr old race at 2500m anything could happen
tbags best
Hvasstan, It's a Dundeel, Super Cool, Honorius
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 01, 2012, 09:53:13 PM
Isn't it Gatewood?  :P

I'm on Kellini for the Lexus. Think $10.00 is massive odds. Kell is only one of two horses in the race to win at this distance as well. The other being Tanby which has won 3 times at this distance and once on this track. Hmm.  :-\

Glen Boss on Gatewood with Barrier one will be hard to beat.

But Nash Rawiller is in good form riding Reuben Percival for second and Hidden Warrior for first in his last two.

In his last eight rides his lowest ride is 4th ( 3 times)

P.S: Love your work as usual.  ;)
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: northernstar on November 02, 2012, 12:20:34 PM
                             AAmi Victorian Derby

1. It's A Dundeel 3yr C 6:5-1-0, Emerging Star out done last time, sure to feature


Didn't run hard last start, why would you with the Derby next week. I think it will win easy.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 02, 2012, 12:26:44 PM
Yeah, It's A Dundeel is probably the best bet of he day.  :)
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 02, 2012, 05:50:47 PM
I couldn't resist and even though she races so green I got on Dame Claire at her odds, resisting Dare to Dream and Gatewood

Come tomorrow and i will probably have money on Super Cool, very hard to flirt with a very young horse's like Dunny's form and turn it around! Unless they held him up from his best work in the spring finish it still gets very tricky!

Peek conditioning can be the difference! Enter a Bart or Moody, even Kav! Also Gai, Hawkes and Hayes
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 02, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
Any thoughts on a Quaddie TBag? I am looking at 2,9,13 - 1,10,13 - 2,5,10 - 1,8....whoo hoo  >:(
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2012, 12:11:59 AM
Any thoughts on a Quaddie TBag? I am looking at 2,9,13 - 1,10,13 - 2,5,10 - 1,8....whoo hoo  >:(
Looks a toughy but here goes :P

Race 6, the Derby    Race 7                Race 8                                  Race 9
1. It's a Dunny,        1. Streama          6. Howmuchdoyouloveme       4. Fawkner
4. Super Cool           6. Pear Tart           also                                   5. Free Wheeling
  also                        also                  2 and 3
3 and 5                   2.

That should do me but probably need those four in the Derby but it is for young developing 3yr olds over a massive 2500m so any bolter could come from the clouds, be wary, also there was a big tip for No 8. Electric Fusion, but for me those top four look the class without knowing much at all about those who only raced 3-4 times against weeker company!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2012, 02:09:57 AM
so who do you like better tbags

Super Cool or Hvasstan for the win?
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2012, 02:28:39 AM
Real tough, tempted to say Super Cool but that could be my emotions as I rode for Kav :o I think I'll get on Hva!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 03, 2012, 10:47:49 AM
Glen Boss in good form. Don't think any of the outside runners stand much of a chance I don't think.  :-\

Wouldn't mind a boxed trifecta with Deel, Super Cool & Hvasstan.

Looking over the field none of the runners have raced at 2500 so anything could happen.  :o

First race in 4 minutes, tipping Al Aneed. Proverb, Tatra all up there.

Can never right off a horse ridden by Williams either.  :o

Roughie is Pronto Pronto.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on November 03, 2012, 10:59:12 AM
I think Electric Fusion will be the spoiler. Don't ask me why but I liked its run in the Robinson
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 03, 2012, 11:07:15 AM
Bloody Bart.  :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on November 03, 2012, 11:08:04 AM
Bloody Bart.  :P

Cup week 101: NEVER back against Bart. Easy money  :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 03, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
Bloody Bart.  :P

Cup week 101: NEVER back against Bart. Easy money  :P

Haha, flowering hell the foss has still got it.  ::)

Kellini for the surprise in race 2!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2012, 11:25:49 AM
Bloody Bart.  :P

Cup week 101: NEVER back against Bart. Easy money  :P

Haha, flowering hell the foss has still got it.  ::)

Kellini for the surprise in race 2!
Looks a very open race, Bart has Dart to Dream :-X I did back Dame Claire yesturday
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 03, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
Bloody Bart.  :P

Cup week 101: NEVER back against Bart. Easy money  :P

Haha, flowering hell the foss has still got it.  ::)

Kellini for the surprise in race 2!


 8)
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on November 03, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
Bloody Bart.  :P

Cup week 101: NEVER back against Bart. Easy money  :P

Haha, flowering hell the foss has still got it.  ::)

Kellini for the surprise in race 2!

Nice.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
Good call! I don't think Dare to Dream gets a cup run now, pity!

And why lead out by two lengts on Dame Claire, bad tactics.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2012, 11:59:13 AM
I'mm off to get a Coopers and a Schnitzel back Snitzerland :P
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 03, 2012, 12:00:05 PM
Good call! I don't think Dare to Dream gets a cup run now, pity!

And why lead out by two lengts on Dame Claire, bad tactics.

Thanks, T-Bag. I hate jockeys who set the tempo early.  :-\

I said it earlier that Rawiller is in great form.  :)

The jockey plays a huge role in deciding the outcome. I think I based my punt on Rawiller's form and the fact that Kellini has
actually won at the distance along with Tanby.

I'mm off to get a Coopers and a Schnitzel back Snitzerland :P

Pale ale?

Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Windigo on November 03, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
Had a little wager on Transonic for a place.

3rd placing @ 4.00. Not bad.
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
glad i could not make up my mind on race 6 lol decided to save my money for Americain on Tuesday
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2012, 04:03:27 PM
Good call! I don't think Dare to Dream gets a cup run now, pity!

And why lead out by two lengts on Dame Claire, bad tactics.

Thanks, T-Bag. I hate jockeys who set the tempo early.  :-\

I said it earlier that Rawiller is in great form.  :)

The jockey plays a huge role in deciding the outcome. I think I based my punt on Rawiller's form and the fact that Kellini has
actually won at the distance along with Tanby.

I'mm off to get a Coopers and a Schnitzel back Snitzerland :P

Pale ale?
When I was a young fella yeah! But these days it's the real stuff. As good as Pale is, Sparkling is the best!

Try drinking more than three Coopers Sparkling Ales then tell me what you think! I won't say how many I drink as I get lost after about 6 :P

Tried to tell you all a bolter would bolt in the Derby! Hope someone listened!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 04, 2012, 04:41:53 PM
                                                 2012 Melbourne Cup

It's here the race that stops the nation, but where are all the locals :o The Europians have taken over but just who are the contenders, well I will attempt to dissect the field.

I am tbag and I was once an apprentice jockey to Mark Kavanagh down at Mt Gambier before his Melbourne raid, aslo rode for Adelaide's Len Smith and rode track work for his 1997 Melbourne Cup 3rd place getter Skybeau :o Yep! True! So I'm here to try get FF the winner and placings for the great race!

Also I sit top of the FF league and in the top 1000 in Star Stable ;D

A Horse or "H" is a Stallion 4yrs or older, a Gelding or "g" is any a male horse with no nuts! a Mare or "M" is a female horse 4yrs or older, a Colt is a male under 4 with balls, a filly is a female under 4yrs old. 34:10-9-7 is the starts:wins-seconds-thirds

Race 7, the Melbourne Cup 3200m Hcp Group 1
1. Dunaden 7yr H 34:10-9-7, Champion and last years winner still unbeaten in Oz, romped to win the Caulfield cup and though has a massive weight of 59kg, is still the one to beat!

2. American 8yr H 33:11-4-4, the 2010 winner raced here during the Aurumn and beaten by Manighar every race at WFA level, but he comes into the race as favorite and has less weight than last year, will finish in the top 5 I guarentee, has a big shot at winning.

3. Jakkalbury 7yr H 25:10-2-3, who? Ran in last years Caulfield Cup and flopped, has had many races since and won a few but not on my radar.

4. Red Cadeaux 7yr g 30:6-8-5, not the record of the top three but ran second last year! Looks very consistant but just doesn't win many races.

5. Winchester 8yr H 26:6-6-3, far striched as to how he even got a run ($$$ I'm asuming), well he has done nothing in Oz in four starts and this will continue.

6. Voila Ici 8yr H 32:8-6-5, looked promising when 2nd in the Underwood, flopped the Caulfield Cup and hasn't raced passed the 2400m, but Moody is a genius!

7. Cavalryman 7yr H 27:6-4-3, Who? In good form but never raced in Oz, average record and would be a suprise winner.

8. Mount Athos 6yr g 20:7-0-1, Has been a long time cup favorite and this showers me as he hasn't raced in Oz. Has won his last three easily and at the age of 6 looks the prime horse, not sure why trainers think they can land at Flemington on that tuesday and win but this is the horse to do it, at least have him in your multi bets.

9. Sangas 7yr g 15:7-1-0, German who came here with a great record but in four starts hasn't gotten better than a 6th, proof it is harder than the Europians think to beat our best!

10. Ethiopia 4yr g 7:1-1-2, won the Derby in Sydney and one of two Oz bread horses in the cup :-\ Is a fascinating galloper who ran fourth in the Cox Plate and may thribe at the distance, lets all hope he does Australia Proud, I expect a top 8 finish!

11. Fiorente 5yr H 9:2-3-0, First run in Oz but has Gai's eye on him, has beaten Red Cadeaux and has to be some chance, really hard to gauge any form here!

12. Galileo's Choice 7yr g 16:8-4-1, from Ireland with a great record, again how the fridge are the Australian punters supposed to dissect all these never raced in Oz forms to back a winner? :-\ Advantage the bookies. To many Europians and our Government has let us as a nation down badly here!

13. Glencadam Gold 5yr g 13:6-2-1, At least we have seen this international race! And race well, was the Caulfield Cup fav after he romped the Metro and that second place "Kelinni" just won nicely, the Metro form has never been great for the cup but he did win very, very easily, and big odds now!

14. Green Moon 6yr H 19:6-3-0, Ran 2nd last years Caulfield Cup and although flopped in the recent Cox Plate has been a major Cup contender for a while, nice odds and right in the race, with 53.5kg

15.Maluckyday 6yr g 17:5-3-2, Local and 2nd in 2010, racing well and with no Alcopop for some strange reason :-\ lets all cheer this guy on!

16. Mourayan 7yr H 32:4-8-5, going great guns in Sydney and had some great form last spring only to be scratched from this race, with his record at top level would have to be some sort of silly E/W chance.

17. My Quest For Peace 5yr H 12:5-1-2, 5th in the Caulfield and come to Oz with great winning form, light weight and can challange

18. Niwot 8yr g 32:9-4-1, ok when 8th last year and then won the Sydney cup 3200m, but in poor form atm

19. Tac De Boistron 6yr g 27:5-2-2, Frenchy and 6th in a slow paced Geelong cup, hard to judge but light weight and has won big in Europe

20. Lights Of Heaven 5yr M 18:6-3-3, Trained by Moody and won the big races in Queesland, 3rd in Caulfield Cup and has to be a chance
21. Precedence 7yr g 44:7-5-1, probably only gets a run with the "Bart" factor but no chance again

22. Unusual Suspect 9yr H 68:9-8-6, some owners don't know when to give up!

23. Zabeelionaire 4yr H 17:3-1-0, SA Derby winner really hasn't done much else

24. Kelinni 5yr g 18:8-3-3, made a statement in the Lexus Saturday and at 51kg has an outside chance

So there's the field, full of Internationals of some who have never been south of the equater, well here's my lowdown

1. Dunaden, can go back to back and is still unbeaten in Australia
2. American, consistant as any and a former winner
3. Red Cadeaux, 2nd last year and hasn't been unplaced since!
4. Ethiopia, looks a real star for the furure of Australian racing
5. Maluckyday, the best local left and should challange
6. Lights of Heaven, the star mare and Moody/Nolan combo, I think Peter has set her for this race!
 the roughy
Kelinni, won nicely on Saturday, lightweight and has the Boss on him

So hope that helps my fellow ff members and good luck!
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 04, 2012, 05:14:41 PM
thanks for the wright up tbags

would you put $100 each on Dunaden and Americain or $100 on one of them $50 on the other and $50 on Mount Athos i'm leaning towards the 2nd option
Title: Re: Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 04, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
I'm just not a fan of horses who haven't raced here before the race,

Dunaden and American look the logical bets but they also have huge weight
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: Windigo on November 04, 2012, 07:26:18 PM
Dare I go with Kellini again.  :-\
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 04, 2012, 07:29:42 PM
cool cheers mate btw maybe you should post that in the front bar by itself also more people will see it
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: gossiboy on November 04, 2012, 07:55:21 PM
Winchester will win the cup. Will travel the 3200m and barring a horror run (which could happen considering it drew barrier 22) it will be there at the finish. Hopefully it can get across easily without having to go forward. Carrying 55.5 kilos will be an advantage over the others when sprinting for the line and will be first past the post.

Also, Mourayan to be the best of the Aussie horses barring a wet track (which looks a probability).
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: c4v3m4n on November 05, 2012, 12:20:00 AM
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,69063.0.html

^^ Get on it if you haven't already.

Entries close midnight tonight or earlier if there are 72 entrants.

Tell your FF friends.
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: BratPack on November 05, 2012, 02:22:34 PM
I gave my numbers in the front bar but I'll run through the field here with my quick thoughts

1. Dunaden: It can't win. The weight will kill it, especially if the track stays like the road it was at the end on Saturday

2. Americain: Perfect draw, pretty close to perfect weight and Ollie wants a final hurrah before the hammer is lowered on him. Will be in the finish for sure

3. Jakkalberry: Won the Irish St Ledger then did less than nothing in the Caulfield Cup. Needs it to stay relatively dry to feature

4. Red Cadeaux: Is racing well but has never beaten Dunaden. Will be flying home

5. Winchester Can't see how you can finish 3 lengths behind Alcopop to winning the cup in two days. Likely rain kills any slim hopes it had.

6. Voila Ici If it stays dry, it's just making up the numbers. If it throws it down....Look out

7. Cavalryman Godolphin don't bring out slouches, and generally when they're NOT talking is when you have to watch them. It'll be there at the end

8. Mount Athos Weather means everything. If it stays dry, should feature. If it rains. Game Over

9. Sanagas It has J.B Cummings as trainer. That means it's a chance. Probably needs the give in the ground though

10. Ethiopia Probably one year too early. But will be in the finish.

11. Fiorente Hard to see it doing much on its last run. Pass

12. Galileo's Choice Dermott Weld is chirping about the track. That means he thinks he's got something. The wetter it is. The better it is

13. Glencadam Gold Will give them something to chase. But poor Caulfield Cup run combined with likely rain puts it out. Just say No

14. Green Moon Hard to know what to make of it. But rain again is its Achilles heel. Pass

15. Maluckyday Forget it went around in the Geelong Cup. The run didn't suit. Will get the distance and the rain won't worry him. Keep Safe

16. Mourayan Hard to see how it comes from the Craven Plate to win the cup but it is placed at the distance and the more it rains the more it comes into play. Watch the Skies.

17. My Quest for Peace Eyecatching run in the Caulfield Cup. Rain doesn't affect it like stablemate Mount Athos. Should be there at the end

18. Niwot On form no. But it's a mudlark so it pours down he'll be there. One for the Multiples

19. Tac De Boistron Geelong Cup run didn't suit. Another mudlark, if it rains hard he's probably the best international

20. Lights of Heaven Seemed to be looking for more distance at Caulfield. Over the Odds

21. Precedence No hope. Not even with Bart

22. Unusual Suspect It's not the worst. It will get 3200. But if it rains it'll probably be scratched. Mug Punters only.

23. Zabeelionaire A bit like Winchester. Hard to see it getting up based on its Mackinnon run. But a little rain will help.

24. Kellini Rain will help. Doesn't have the Maluckyday feel to me though. Not for me
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: northernstar on November 05, 2012, 08:21:40 PM
My Tri - Red Cadeaux, My Quest for Peace, Americain
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: colmullet on November 06, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
and my dry streak on the melbourne cup continues for another year......
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on November 06, 2012, 05:03:58 PM
Maybe the Europians need to take a leaf from Americain and Dunaden (who flopped today probably under the big weight) and come to Oz earlier and run in a lead-up race prior to the Cup.

Well a local won it and I'm happy about this! Green Moon is a very consistant horse.
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: BratPack on November 07, 2012, 02:01:45 PM
Maybe the Europians need to take a leaf from Americain and Dunaden (who flopped today probably under the big weight) and come to Oz earlier and run in a lead-up race prior to the Cup.

Well a local won it and I'm happy about this! Green Moon is a very consistant horse.

Local? Green Moon is Irish. Just trained locally
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: gossiboy on November 07, 2012, 02:27:07 PM
Maybe the Europians need to take a leaf from Americain and Dunaden (who flopped today probably under the big weight) and come to Oz earlier and run in a lead-up race prior to the Cup.

Well a local won it and I'm happy about this! Green Moon is a very consistant horse.

Local? Green Moon is Irish. Just trained locally

The first 7 horses home in the cup this year were all Irish-bred.
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: T Dog on November 07, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
Got sent this today..... 8)

Tom Who ?
Spring Racing has again been struck down by a virulent contagion.

Not since the outbreak of Equine Influenza in 2007 has a virus had such an impact on the Spring Racing Carnival.

The latest virus has been identified as a extremely potent strain of marketing, and goes by the Latin name of Tommus Waterhouse Irritatus.

But most people refer to it more commonly as "Bloody Hell There He is Again".

Those afflicted often report continuously seeing stylized images of Tom Waterhouse wherever they look. On TV, in the newspaper, on the internet, on the train, in cloud formations in the sky and on the inside of their eyelids.

The effects can be quite debilitating and can range from mild nausea, to headaches, to sudden involuntary urges to swear and throw things at the television.
Pop on the TV in the morning, there is Tom. Switch over to the news in the evening - there is Tom.

Turn on Play School for the kiddies and there is Big Tom and Little Tom.

Snuggle in for some ABC period drama and there is Tom in waistcoat and top hat offering penny back specials on the 1892 Melbourne Cup.

Open up your breakfast cereal in the morning and there is Tom, cause he doesn't know how they make it go Snap, Crackle and Pop, but he does know what punters want.

So what do punters want? Their sanity back ! Please.

Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: colmullet on November 07, 2012, 04:41:04 PM
haha i love it, he and his site are truely useless when compared to others out there.
Title: Re: the Melbourne Cup
Post by: fidou on November 07, 2012, 06:28:14 PM
Got sent this today..... 8)

Tom Who ?
Spring Racing has again been struck down by a virulent contagion.

Not since the outbreak of Equine Influenza in 2007 has a virus had such an impact on the Spring Racing Carnival.

The latest virus has been identified as a extremely potent strain of marketing, and goes by the Latin name of Tommus Waterhouse Irritatus.

But most people refer to it more commonly as "Bloody Hell There He is Again".

Those afflicted often report continuously seeing stylized images of Tom Waterhouse wherever they look. On TV, in the newspaper, on the internet, on the train, in cloud formations in the sky and on the inside of their eyelids.

The effects can be quite debilitating and can range from mild nausea, to headaches, to sudden involuntary urges to swear and throw things at the television.
Pop on the TV in the morning, there is Tom. Switch over to the news in the evening - there is Tom.

Turn on Play School for the kiddies and there is Big Tom and Little Tom.

Snuggle in for some ABC period drama and there is Tom in waistcoat and top hat offering penny back specials on the 1892 Melbourne Cup.

Open up your breakfast cereal in the morning and there is Tom, cause he doesn't know how they make it go Snap, Crackle and Pop, but he does know what punters want.

So what do punters want? Their sanity back ! Please.



I work in the gambling industry and really how can a guy like Tom Waterhouse get away with his advertising for gambling? Every other sector in gambling is so regulated except for sports betting and racing and everywhere you look its prices on sporting fixtures etc.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 08, 2012, 11:31:08 PM
Saturday at Flemington
The Carnival continues at Flemgton and we have the Emirates stakes day

Race 5. Patinack Farm Classic 1200m, Group 1. WFA
1. Buffering 5yr g 29:11-4-4, Meating his peers at WFA gives him an advantage, good odds and a good bet
2. Temple of Boom 6yr g 34:10-4-6, Can win a big race but not getting near atm
3. Spirit of Boom 5yr H 31:6-7-3, consistant without winning much, but racing well
4. Ready To Rip 5yr g 22:7-4-2, been in great form until the Manikato, still a chance at big odds
5. Mental 4yr g 11:6-1-1, Talanted and on the up, 2nd behind Sea Siren and right in it
6. Tiger Tees 4yr 15:9-3-1, Big test here but won a big race in Qld and is consistant
7. Bel Sprinter 5yr g 12:6-1-0, His star seems to be fading but on his day can win, but unlikely for me
8. Fontelina4yr g 11:4-2-0, beat Spirit of Boom when resuming but tougher race here
9. Howmuchdoyouloveme 4yr g 7:5-1-0, Suddenly nice odds after failed fav, expect improvement
10.Sea Siren 4yr M 9:6-1-0, Star Mare on the rise and only a 4yr old, has to be favorite
11.Hallobelle 4yr M 17:3-6-6, Racing well but will struggle to win against the best sprinters in Oz
14.Fire Thunderbolt 3yr g 4:2-1-0, talanted but young 3yr olds don't beat the older horses, remember the Cox Plate!
15.Snitzerland 3 f 10:6-2-0, very strange she's runnung again after recent failure, won't beat the older horses
tbag says
1. Buffering, should respond
2. Sea Siren, hard to beat
3. Mental

Race 6. Emirates Stakes 1600m Group 1
1. Fat Al 4yr g 10:6-2-1, Boom gelding perhaps his biggest test is his first run in Melbourne and anti-clockwise
2. Happy Trails 5yr g 28:4-6-5, Was blazing at the mile before trying at 2000m, back to 1600 and should go close
4. Solzhenitsyn 6yr g 25:11-2-6, In good form and should be in the finish again
6. Abidexter 4yr g 14:3-3-1, Failed at first Melb. run and going great before that
9. Streama 4yr M 17:7-4-2, Continuing to race over a mile instead of 2000m :o
10.Fawkner 5yr g 14:8-2-1, Passing all challanges although big class rise did win well last week
17.Free Wheeling 4yr H 13:3-3-1, Horse on the rise and bug test, couldn't beat Fawkner last week
18.Star Of Giselle5yr M 18:7-4-1, Impressive mare keeps winning but tested in this Group 1

tbags best
Fat Al, looks a top liner
Fawkner, won easily Derby day
Happy Trails, loves a mile

Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 09, 2012, 12:45:24 AM
Race 7 Matriach Stakes 2000m Mares Group 2
1. Silent Achiever 4yr M 11:6-1-2, Star Kiwi mare and she keeps winning big races, incuding NZ Derby
3. Midnight Martini 5yr M 18:6-2-2, Racing well
4. Crafty Irna 5yr M 25:4-7-1, Just won in Sydney and first run in Melb.
7. Lake Sententia 4yr M 6:4-0-0, Building impressive record but first stakes race

Race 8 Queen Elizabeth Stakes 2600m Group 3
all the failed Cup wannaby's will be a hard race to pick, also sad that some here with winning form didn't get a cup run over some Europians :-\

1. Lost In The Moment 6yr H 23:4-5-3, From Ireland having first Oz start, not sure what their aim is here with average form
2. Shahwardi 7yr g 21:4-5-6, Frenchy who won first Oz start in Herb Power
4. Folding Gear 5yr g 15:4-1-3, Won Natrualism before decent 7th Caulifeld Cup
5. Tanby 6yr g 22:8-3-3, Failed in the Lexus but won the Bart so ??? But has impressive record, good odds for EW ;)
7. Ironstein 7yr g 45:8-2-10, Racing consistantly without winning
8. Lightinthenite5yr g 14:6-2-2, won stakes before a 6th but meating tougher horses here
9. Vatuevi 4yr g 15:3-1-3, Young stayer on the rise winning the Moonee Valley cup, and previously the VRC St Ledger
11.Puissance De Lune 5yr H 11:5-3-0, Winning races but yet to run in the city, did just win the Bendigo cup
12.Dare To Dream 5yr H 8:3-1-2, Former Irish, rising, should go very close

tbags best
1. Dare to Dream, would've run a big cup race if he ran I believe, has a big future
2. Shahwardi, won only start in Oz
3. Tanby, good stayer
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 10:51:43 AM
Race 2 at Flemington is an unbeaten horse from Germany, 3 from 3 over there! interested to see what price he starts at, think I will get on

Race 2, 7. Why Not
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Hawka on November 10, 2012, 10:56:02 AM
Thank god for the Races being on channel 7!
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 10, 2012, 11:04:29 AM
Nice work there Tbag.

My quaddie today will be 1,2,16 - 1,3 - 4,7,13 - 2,3,6
Roughie race 1, no6, to fund the day..lol  ::)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 11:14:44 AM
Thanks T Dog, I like No 8, got nothing on it, going to the tab after this race!

Lol at channel 7 and their advertising of X Factor at 11am during the horse racing ::)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 10, 2012, 11:17:53 AM
Missed the kick sadly.. :'(
At least x factor ads keep tom waterhouse off the screen.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on November 10, 2012, 12:00:27 PM
Missed the kick sadly.. :'(
At least x factor ads keep tom waterhouse off the screen.

(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac332/showstealer1829/25086131.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 01:09:44 PM
Missed the kick sadly.. :'(
At least x factor ads keep tom waterhouse off the screen.
T Dogs getting his jokes in early! Dare to say it won't be the last!
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 01:15:15 PM
On Essay Raider, big raps on this horse
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 01:59:59 PM
Anyone disapointed out two time defending champion, the Great Mare's not in this?
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 02:45:02 PM
I've gone Happy Trails ew, well a month ago before he went to 2000m he looked in great mile form, he's a top miler and I think it will be a slow pace which will suit his turn of foot in the sprint
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 02:48:03 PM
Got one!!! Haha
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 10, 2012, 03:19:21 PM
Nice one Tbag. Alive in quaddie. Quinelled last 2 races. Having a good day.. 8)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 03:29:55 PM
Yeah nice, well I didn't put Happy Trails in my qaudy :-[ though going well after the win, I need Dare to Dream to at least place now!
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 03:33:09 PM
Guessing you got the Martini in it T Dog? The next two races are tricky!

You need 2, 11 and 12 in race 8!
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 10, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
Still alive Tbag. Have 4,7,13 in the 8th and 2,3,6 in the last leg. In race 8 have quinelled 13 with 4,7,8,9,10 and 12. Big roughie chance with any luck. Would make a big quaddie...lol
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 03:46:50 PM
Hmmm you done well so far but what are you thinking in race 8 :o
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 10, 2012, 03:52:41 PM
Was looking for a track and distance roughie. Have had a shocking carnival until today. So tweaked my choices slightly when doing them last night. It's been a bookies carnival sadly.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 04:23:18 PM
Was a short fav, well having never raced at a major venue in Oz, coming from the country, well he showed us

I can still remember Might and Power at 1/10 on, winning this race by 10 lenghts, well this was impressive, Dare to Dream not as good as I hoped, also proves some winning form should get runs in the cup over, over hyped cup runners (Athos) who have'nt run in Oz
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 10, 2012, 04:43:35 PM
Got that right Tbag. Over hyped and under raced imo. No point in beating the handicapper if you cant get aclimatised and race fit.
Down to a trifecta in the last for me. Boxed 2,3, and 6.   Could have been alive in the quaddie if only Ironstein started a good 60 seconds before the winner. 2nd in a quaddie leg, I hate that..lol
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on August 31, 2013, 01:48:41 PM
Well it's almost Spring but it is 25c here today! What a way to kick start the Spring Carnival with Champion Mare Atlantic Jewl taking over from the Great Mare Black Caviar!

Undefeated and looking to beat a stunning field, Former star three year old now a 5 yr Mare attemps to beat the very best in Oz first up in Race 8 at Caulfield ;D

Also she's trained by my old boss
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 07, 2013, 01:03:19 PM
Well Atlantic Jewel wowed us last week and now for the lune!

puissance de lune is that horse today, the Melbourne Cup FAV runs in the Makybe Dive Race6 today ;D
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on September 07, 2013, 02:37:14 PM
Well I whacked $20 on the nose of Aussies Love Sport at Randwick and it saluted like a good thing so I'm happy  :)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 12, 2013, 04:16:53 PM
The new great mare runs again in the Top Cut Stocks Stakes

ATLANTIC JEWEL Race 4 at Mooney Valley, Don't bother betting unless you have a bundle!,
$1.07 is Black Caviar like odds

Super Cool is my best bet in race 6 at $3.30

All on Saturday of course
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tor01doc on September 12, 2013, 10:24:53 PM
Lord of Brazil

First up at The Valley - race 8.

E/W I am told.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tor01doc on September 15, 2013, 09:47:50 PM
5th - no good.

Glad I didn't go for it.

Hope nobody else did.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 19, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
So race 9 at Caulfield is the G1 Underwood stakes 1800m

Greenmoon, It's A Dundeel, Manighar, Happy Trails, Ethiopia, Foreteller, Dear Demi!

Great field right?

Add, Puissance De Lune :o  Wowee can it get any better?

YES it can!

Atlantic Jewel also joins in :o
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on September 21, 2013, 05:59:30 PM
Poor ride, jockey took AJ straight to the front, in the end a top top horse ran her down

It's A Dundeel beats Atlantic Jewel, the great mare is not as great as the Queen of them all, we feel let down but really, we were a little spoilt with Black Caviar!

Stick with Pussence De Lune over distance! ;)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2013, 10:36:56 AM
Any tips for today T Bag ?
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 05, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
I'm not a fan of these G1's today they look a bit open, had a sneeky bet on Hawkspur though and Prince Cheri should be followed closely in the Metrop and should win

Zoustar if the price is good enough in Sydney R5, Guelph will be way too short but wins also
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 05, 2013, 11:07:57 AM
How do you like De Lune ?
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 05, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
How do you like De Lune ?
Tough race with this Fiorente in it and the likes of Super Cool, Hawkspur, Dear Demi ect, I'd sit and watch this one :P
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 05, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
Wow well, great day of racing, i'm non the wiser :P  Except Sea Moon will be a big player!
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on October 25, 2013, 07:23:32 PM
Devastating the new Great Mare had to retire! Pity she got beat also!  We will miss her for sure!

Atlantic Jewel now goes to Ireland to meat the Sire of Frankel, Galileo

Seems the owners of Atlantic Jewel have fart more pride than the *Bleeps* that own the Great Mare Black Caviar, who went to a champion Sire of two yr olds and sprinters ::)  I'd love to punch those ******* in the face!

Everyone knows The Great Mare should have had a date with Frankel ::)  Instead the rotten owners just want quick cash and possibly a horse to run in the Golden Slipper, instead of a Cox Plate Champion!

Anyway, Farewell another great of Australian racing, Atlantic Jewell!

Does make tomorrows Cox Plate more intriguing!

tbags tips are
Super Cool, Puissance De Lune, Fiorante, Its a Dundeel. IADD could struggle to make up the ground on the short Mooney Valley straight
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2013, 06:07:52 PM
Sorry been a bit slack this year :-[  too much work :P

tbags tips ....

This week in the Derby, Polanski wins

Stay away fro  the Mackinnon! Pakal if you have to!

Araldo in the Lexus and watch for the Cup Tuesday!

Catkins nice odds in the Myer R7, the tri of 1,2,3 looks a good bet

Essay Raider R8 ;)  is tbags special!

tbags early Melbourne Cup tips are. Super Cool, great odds here and I know Kav ;)  will have him set!! Dandino is the one to be on!
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2013, 01:04:10 PM
put $10 on Polanski
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 02, 2013, 01:56:53 PM
great job TBAG 8)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2013, 12:31:32 PM
great job TBAG 8)
Pity he came into $5 :-\ 

Race 7 Myer Classic, $76 trifecta 8)

Still like Super Cool in the Cup, seems such a hard race, fav of mine Dear Demi now a highly fancied runner. Sea Moon the one I reckon!
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2013, 12:42:34 PM
Yeah I keep hearing about Sea Moon

I got Polanski @5.50 :)

What do you like about Supercool so much?
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 03, 2013, 01:01:42 PM
Strong looking cup field even if Lloyd Wiiliams has  a pile of them.
Tough Derby Day...4 bets, 1 win..Lexus trifecta. Ruscello getting up.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Noz on November 03, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
I reckon everyone should jump on Sea Moon whilst his out at $15 i wouldn't expect the market to change dramatically since he has been hovering around the $15-$18 mark for the past couple of months.

Come to think of it i can't remember a Melbourne Cup that has been this even in the betting with only 1 horse being under double figures.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2013, 02:02:07 PM
His racing looks like he's been set for the Cup, Mark Kav knows what he's doing ;)

Hugely open race though imo
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Noz on November 03, 2013, 02:33:38 PM
My predictions for the Cup

Sea Moon - Win
Veerma - Second
Dear Demi - Third
Hawkspur - Fourth

$50 on a flexi trifecta with the above horses
$50 on Sea Moon to win
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2013, 02:41:40 PM
hey guys stupid question time

does place mean finish top 3 or 1st or 2nd?
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: GM on November 03, 2013, 03:59:57 PM
hey guys stupid question time

does place mean finish top 3 or 1st or 2nd?
Going with the family Sea Moon.
Backing up with Dear Demi VDC and Super Cool
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2013, 05:16:34 PM
hey guys stupid question time

does place mean finish top 3 or 1st or 2nd?
Going with the family Sea Moon.
Backing up with Dear Demi VDC and Super Cool

You quote me but don't answer the question?

Lol wtf
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: GM on November 03, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
hey guys stupid question time

does place mean finish top 3 or 1st or 2nd?
Going with the family Sea Moon.
Backing up with Dear Demi VDC and Super Cool

You quote me but don't answer the question?

Lol wtfy
Sorry mate just my tips
but yes first 3 over the line collect a place div
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2013, 06:57:48 PM
lol no worries, thanks
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Noz on November 03, 2013, 06:59:17 PM
hey guys stupid question time

does place mean finish top 3 or 1st or 2nd?
Going with the family Sea Moon.
Backing up with Dear Demi VDC and Super Cool

You quote me but don't answer the question?

Lol wtfy
Sorry mate just my tips
but yes first 3 over the line collect a place div

It depends on the amount of horses/dogs in the race. If there is a field of 7 or less then a place bet only means 1st and 2nd this is where you would see NTD on the screen meaning No Third Dividends.
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Nige on November 04, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
Hey lads. If you're interested, I'm running a sweep for the big race tomorrow. Sign yourselves up here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,87485.msg1226863.html#new) if you're keen.  :)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: BratPack on November 04, 2013, 06:36:38 PM
BP's By No Means Reliable One Line Melbourne Cup Preview

1. Dunaden - 33-1: Can't win, just like last year the weight will set him up, the lack of pace will knock him down.

2. Green Moon - 33-1: Been drifting all the way but you can't write him off, Big ask at the weight though

3. Red Cadeaux - 50-1 See Dunaden. No pace, no hope

4. Sea Moon - 12-1 It's in the race but a big ask to win your first Group 1 in the Cup, I'll be laying him

5. Brown Panther - 16-1 Getting a lot of attention due to its owner and did win the key international lead in race, should be in the finish

6. Fiorente - 6-1 FAV Eyecatching run in the Cox, 2nd last year and comes off better. If Gai doesn't get with this one she may never.

7. Foreteller - 25-1 Another to catch the eye in the Cox but unlike Fiorente distance is a huge query still. Multiples at best

8. Dandino - 10-1 It appeals....but I'm not sure if I trust the Caulfield Cup form this year. Can't leave it out though

9. Ethiopia - 66-1 You all didn't listen last year, maybe you will this year. IT....CAN'T....WIN!

10. Fawkner - 15-1 Not for me, ran its race in the Caulfield and I don't trust the form from that race.

11. Mourayan - 125-1 Well it'll get the 3200....you can't say that about every horse in this race. Just making up the numbers

12. Seville - 16-1 It's been specked at the Call of the Card today so you can't toss it, Form's a bit spotty for me though,. Multiples only

13. Super Cool - 50-1 Mark Kavanagh says he's been set for this race, he'd want to be cause the lead up has been flowering atrocious. Couldn't have it

14. Masked Marvel - 33-1 Has beaten Brown Panther and Sea Moon....Two years ago, also was his last win. Nope

15. Mount Athos - 8-1 Comes back from a strong run last year with the same weight and looks to be in the same sort of form, gotta have something on it.

16. Royal Empire - 20-1 General rule of Godolphin and the Cup: When they're NOT talking, get on, won the same race Mount Athos did lead into last year. Sneaky Each Way Claims.

17. Voleuse De Coeurs - 14-1 Smashed it home in the Irish St Ledger, comes in 7 kilos better off from that run and is undefeated over 3200 (2 from 2). Can win regardless of condition, would still prefer the give in the ground though.

18. Hawkspur - 12-1 Another with claims, but another where I can't have it because I don't trust the Caulfield form. Will run a race, but not for me

19. Simenon - 15-1 One of the 5 that got specked at the Call of the Card. Won over 4000 so distance is no worry. Worth consideration, but I can't see a part time jumper winning.

20. Ibicenco - 50-1 There were a few bites at the Call of the Card and Geelong Cup form is generally a good indication, plus it will get the distance. Smoky.

21. Verema - 12-1 The 5th who got specked at the Call of the Card and for good reason, comes out of the same stable as Americain and has a small weight. She's a player.

22. Dear Demi - 16-1 Was unlucky in the Mackinnon, did win the Oaks and is about the only Caulfield Cup run that I would actually follow, set for a big one.

23. Tres Blue - 20-1 The "other" Waterhouse runner. Very hard to read as it comes from different form to the other internationals. I think it needs the give in the ground though. Pass

24. Ruscello - 50-1 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? With a lightweight he'll give them something to chase in the final 400, but this is the Cup, not the Lexus. No Way.

BP's Top 6: 21 Verema
6 Fiorente
5 Brown Panther
16 Royal Empire
15 Mount Athos
20 Ibicenco
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: Noz on November 04, 2013, 07:13:04 PM
Final bets for the cup

$50 on Sea Moon

$20 Sea Moon/Dandino/Super Cool/Verema/Dear Demi (Flexi Tri - 33%)

$20 Sea Moon/Dandino/Super Cool/Verema/Dear Demi/Hawkspur (Flexi First 4 - 5.55%)
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: T Dog on November 04, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
6, 8, 10, 12,17, 18,....Quin, trif, pick 4.... :P
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 09:15:54 AM
My annual Melbourne Cup tips
Race 1 Oakleigh Girl
Race 2 Endless Shadow
Race 3 Junoob
Race 4 Koonoomoo
Race 5 Diamond Oasis
Race 6 Politeness
Race 7 Mount Athos...............another to keep an eye on is Voleuse De Coeurs
Race 8 Rain Drum
Race 9 Avoid Lightning
Race 10 Stratigraphy

one from one so far
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 05, 2013, 10:54:26 PM
Turns out the placings were almost predictable, no thanks to me :P

Anyway, wtf is going on here at 1:59?  Saw it live and  :o

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/8750476/king-revels-with-racegoers

No comment :-X
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 08, 2013, 08:08:09 PM
Ok a tricky day of racing on a possible wet track?

tbags tips:
R5 Zonza to bounce back in a weeker field!
R6: Get on Buffering ;)  Best sprinter around these days
R7 is tricky but! With the rain: Sacred Falls! Loves it
R8: La Amistad :o 
Title: Re: The Spring Racing Carnival
Post by: tbagrocks on November 09, 2013, 10:05:52 PM
Well, Zonza failed :P  Sacred Falls had a Drier track than I wanted (Raining so much in Tassie) ::)  Knew Boban would be the winner :P

La Amistad wasn't given a chance by a dud jockey ::)

Who got on Buffering ;D