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Title: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on February 23, 2013, 03:46:58 PM
Ok so here is a thread to discuss Horse Racing, i'll leave the "Spring racing carnival just for the spring"

Black Caviar and All Two Hard get their own threads because the Great Mare deserves nothing less

So we can discuss any and all things racing here :D  the big races have started again, I may do some previews on some races

All Too Hard takes on the Melbourne cup winner soon ;D  then the Blue Diamond Stakes, then race 8 I live Woorim first up ;)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on February 23, 2013, 04:44:47 PM
Anyone know why Shoot Out didn't run at Warwick Farm? Horrible rain I saw, but I had a bet on him :'(

Get around Green Moon ;)  will star this autumn
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on February 23, 2013, 04:49:52 PM
So the Blue Diamond Stakes for 2yr olds worth $1 000 000 why will win the second biggest 2 yr old race
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on February 23, 2013, 05:03:51 PM
Miracles Of Life won it, the good thisg, the fav was just too good

Get around Woorim in this next race, but don't bet on him again until his first run next campain ;)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Dudge on February 23, 2013, 06:11:14 PM
Hey tbags, , was'nt All To Hard  very, very impressive mate. The way he put lengths on some very good WFA'horses. really makes me think he's ( maybe not yet )  something out of the box. And by that i mean, a future Saintly-Sunshine- Lohnro-Octaganal etc, or am i getting ahead of myself. Would love your take on that  mate. Also wasn't Miracles of Life a great racing story. Had me cheering all the way (even though i didn't back her ) , and i must admit, i shed a tear or two when she got home. I must be getting soft in my OLD age haha, but watching her dad was something else
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Dudge on February 23, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
On a different note mate, who,s your favourite horse u've seen live. And i don't mean best horse, i mean favourite horse. Mine are Kingstot Town for gallopers, and the great Poppy (Popular Alm ) for the trots.

By live i mean in your era, not  actually being on course
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on February 23, 2013, 06:40:33 PM
All Too Hard could be the best, up with Sunline and So You Think, could be the Black Caviar bias though, but sheesh he is impressive, when was the last time a three year old ran like that in the Cox Plate?

My favorite would be Might and Power, that Caulfield cup win and track record got me on board, he won races by 10 lengths

Also Saitnly, that horse was dam impressive, overtook Octagonal as a 4 year old, I think he won the last three, Cox Plate, Melbourne Cup, then came back with a last to first in the CF Orr Stakes and never raced again from injury :-[, he was looking unbeatable

Did you see Kingston Town at the track? That would be special
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Dudge on February 23, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
Nah mate, a massive regret, but was buying a house and planning a family. Being from SA could'nt afford to travel, but followed them on TV and when i went to the races and trots over here. Didn't even get to see Black Caviar when she was here, due to work :(
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Dudge on February 25, 2013, 07:49:35 PM
T-bags,the connections of Miricals of Life are not ruling out a slipper start for her, but unlikely. How do you think she'd fair mate, would it be too much of an ask for her? I hav'nt really been following the 2yo races this year
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on February 25, 2013, 09:59:27 PM
Tough thing for the two year olds to hold good form till April from the Blu Diamond which is the problem, impressing little filly though, has been just awesome so far! The young jockey is impresseve

I'd still expect some fine horses to come on the scene before April, but why not freshen her then take her to Sydney, nothing to lose and the ride of their life ;D
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 02, 2013, 12:56:19 PM
With All Too Hard out of the Guineas I like a horse called Philippi

Pierro, It's a Dundeel and Proisir continue the rivalry in Sydney race 7, they are sure to battle out the big three year old races this Autumn

Who will get the first nod? The only horses to ever finish in front of Pierro are All Too Hard and Ocean Park
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 03, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Philippi was left wanting for a run, when he got out he finished very strongly, only finished 6th but follow ;)

The first four in Sydney 3 yr olds was

Pierro
Rebel Dane (never heard of him but his first loss, just!) Huge future!
Proisir
It's A Dundeel

Now this horse It's A Dundeel will be very, very hard to beat from 2000m and beyond, anyone see his finish?
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 07, 2013, 07:43:35 AM
The 2013 Melbourne Cup winner :o  Puissance De Lune resumes at Flemington saturday in the 1600m Blamey stakes
He's at $5 and is winning everything over 2000m but I don't think he will win first up

The 2012 Melbourne Cup Winner Green Moon runs in the Australian Cup and the way he finished after All Too Hard cut him off in the Futurity Stakes suggests he will be very hard to beat
The challangers look to be the three year olds who ran 1st and 2nd in the VRC Derby Fiveandahalfstar and Super Cool

Superstar Manighar resumes in the Chipping Norton Stakes 1600m in Sydney with Shoot Out the threat, maybe some improvement from Glencadam Gold

Unbeaten from 11 Perth Champion Barakey finally makes his Melbourne debue in the Newmarket Hcp, and no Great Mare this year
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 09, 2013, 01:34:44 PM
AMAZING WOW,  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not one Waterhouse add on channel 7 ;D  he's not there today ;D  didn't sponser obviously ;D
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 09, 2013, 01:45:48 PM
Puissance De Lune  Dead heat for first but fantastic late run the last 100m, get on this horse in every thing he does
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on March 09, 2013, 01:52:23 PM
I'm fresh & ready.
Get around me!
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 09, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
I'm fresh & ready.
Get around me!

Haha classic!

Wowee...did anyone see Flying Snitzel just before? Really flew past the lot of them.  :o
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 09, 2013, 02:52:35 PM
Looks to be a firm track and they're coming from behind, stay back Green Moon! ;)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on March 09, 2013, 02:54:59 PM
I am hoping to sit about 7th in settling and Brett will do the rest! :)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on March 09, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 09, 2013, 03:56:35 PM
Super impressive from my old boss ;D
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 11, 2013, 10:30:42 AM
Adelaide Cup and my smokie is running, Dame Claire has raced over 3000m twice for two wins both listed races last year

Get on and thank me later! 8)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 11, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
Race 8 Morphetville. My unique pick is Essay Raider, won nicely here before failing in Melbourse but first up even in a stakes race, at Morphetville I am putiting my money on, also consider star filly Maybe Discreet first up but I would think she'd be aiming for Sydney
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on March 11, 2013, 11:20:01 AM
Talent Show in the Adelaide Cup 13-1.
Flew home to win the Perth Cup.
Each Way.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 11, 2013, 04:25:37 PM
Norsqui won it!

Dame Claire battled on and stayed very well for third, I wish they would ride her back a little bit, she's always having to battle after being on pace every race, I think she'd come home better from just in front of midfiled, i've seen her do it :-\

Anyway she'll pay $3.80 for the place so ;D
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 11, 2013, 05:21:50 PM
Well I tipped two each way chances, Dame Claire ran third paying $3.80, Essay Raider came from last to just get pipped running 2nd also paying over very nicely for the place, but could have won nicely ::)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 14, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
I have a big tip for tomorrow night at Moonee Valley

Race 6 Alister Clark Stakes 2040m for 3 yr olds
Some top talented horses here but

One that was held up last time against the best, ran on to finish 6th, I followed him last srping and he was underfeated, but didn't run in the Gueneas or Derby

Philippi  ;D
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 30, 2013, 08:47:10 PM
Sheesh this It's A Dundeel romped in! Looks even better if that's possible!
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Dudge on April 01, 2013, 02:17:57 PM
That was a easy win for a Group 1. Whats next the Derby isn't it
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on April 02, 2013, 01:23:59 AM
Australian Guineas I think, something like that'

Derby not yet

Fiveandahalstar for Derby

Supercool in the Guineas, Prosir or Pierro to run?

Would be a great race then, time will tell

If only All Too Hard runs
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on April 06, 2013, 12:52:11 PM
Big day with the five group 1s at Roshill

The BMW looks a week field for the great race, oh well, i'm on Fiveandahalfstar

More Joyous should blitz the Queen of the Turf

Can Overreach be beaten in the Slipper?

Then Pierro gets his chance to steal the show!

So the biggest day of racing after the great Cup
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on April 13, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
Was the Great One just up-staged? :o

Australian Derby

I'ts a Dundeel, wow whut? Really? I've never seen a Derby won that easy before

Caulfield Cup winner, won't be beaten!
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Dudge on April 13, 2013, 06:09:45 PM
Last 2 wins have been awesome, this one looks a freak :)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 20, 2013, 04:31:18 PM
Puissaance De Lune and the Melbourne Cup fav belted em in his first start under 1600m :o  (1400m)

This boy is bluddy impressive! Seeing as it's mid August not November!
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on August 31, 2013, 01:06:52 PM
Speedy  Blue Diamond winner Miracles Of Life returning needed the run!

But it's all about race 8! Eight group 1 winners including the first and second from last years cup, the Derby freak It's A Dundeel

But that's just the sideshow!!

Atlantic Jewel! still undefeated and resuming from 18 months out!  ;D
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on August 31, 2013, 10:00:57 PM
Speedy  Blue Diamond winner Miracles Of Life returning needed the run!

But it's all about race 8! Eight group 1 winners including the first and second from last years cup, the Derby freak It's A Dundeel

But that's just the sideshow!!

Atlantic Jewel! still undefeated and resuming from 18 months out!  ;D
Cox Plate winner here TBag
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 01, 2013, 02:16:39 PM
It was like the Great Mare never retired :o  Ok not comparing Her to Black Cav yet but, sheesh she's almost just as impressive! Fair too say that over 1400m, what a flowering race those two Queens would have had!

AJ Still undefeated! The new Great Mare has returned! We all thought the Puissance De Lune was the next champion and he is! But! Also Its A Dundeel is special but!

This mare is a freak! Not even All Too Hard could beat her :o  Only one horse could! That is the great One Herself who has retired!

Ok tbag getting carried away and yes I have personal interest in Kav's horses but, sheesh! Just look at how she destroys all before her!
That race was full ove Australian racings very best and she smashed them! SMASHED EM!

Just like the Great Mare used too :o
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Cicjose on December 30, 2013, 10:58:05 AM
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviars-younger-brother-meets-sad-end-after-succumbing-to-debilitating-hoof-condition/story-fni2gegf-1226791563126

THE most expensive yearling ever sold in the southern hemisphere has lost his battle for life.

The colt the racing world knew as "Jimmy", a half-brother to the great Black Caviar,
was humanely put down yesterday morning, succumbing to laminitis, a debilitating hoof condition that has troubled him
for nearly two months.

Jimmy, who was purchased for $5 million at the Inglis Easter Sales earlier this year, was being treated at the
Melbourne University Veterinary Hospital in Werribee before the decision was made that the colt could not be saved.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on March 14, 2014, 09:56:41 PM
Looking at some talented types well overs imo

Eurozone in the Randwick Guineas is a great e/w bet

Streama second up in the Canterbury Stakes also at juicy odds, touble is Zouster is in the race :-\  But the way Guelph has been running, the three year olds might just be struggling. Add Sheamas Award to that bunch of Three year olds struggling against the older horses

Tough race in the G1 Challenge Stakes but sticking with my boy Buffering in WFA
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: McRooster on March 15, 2014, 12:21:45 AM
And just how did Eurozone run last week? Last time I checked 4th paid flower all.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on March 15, 2014, 12:53:57 AM
Got to correct you tbag- Challenge stakes is a group 2

Heathcote said during the week that Buffering would not be fully wound up first run in and would be vulnerable at 1000m- should stll fill a drum but much prefer to back him 2nd up either in the Galaxy or the TJ Smith.

With the rain around in Sydney have something e/w on Temple of Boom- loves the wet- currently at $21 on the fixed odds.

Also with the rain around just have to have a crack at Red Tracer in the Canterbury Stakes.

Criterion on the e/w in the Randwick Guineas- excellent run at Flemington in the Australian Guineas and should be peaking for this race third up.

Keen on Giuliani in the Skyline Stakes- beaten by a pimple by Unencumbered at its first start and spelled. Comes back here- won a trial by 4.5 lengths and is one of Gai's better chances for the slipper. $2.75 fixed odds should be a fill up.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on September 12, 2014, 08:17:46 PM
2014 Caufield Cup Winner running around tomorrow.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 13, 2014, 02:24:39 PM
Big race the G1 Makybe Diva stakes, Melbourne and Caulfield cup winners and all

Im on Puissance De Lune, reckon he's still a freak :P

Pity Chivalry got beat, just, but he's the one to follow

Had a place bet on Dear Demi and if she wasn't held up, would have beaten the first horse, on her at 50/1 for the Caulfield cup 8)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on September 13, 2014, 02:56:14 PM
Big race the G1 Makybe Diva stakes, Melbourne and Caulfield cup winners and all

Im on Puissance De Lune, reckon he's still a freak :P

Pity Chivalry got beat, just, but he's the one to follow

Had a place bet on Dear Demi and if she wasn't held up, would have beaten the first horse, on her at 50/1 for the Caulfield cup 8)
That's my tip!
Already have $620 on Dear Demi @ $34 into The Offer @ $13.
Started with a tip I got last week , Thurstans a first starter came in from $15 to $6.
Led all the way. :)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 13, 2014, 03:01:45 PM
Was on Fawkner in the Makybe Diva e/w. Super first up run - hoping he goes to the Cox Plate, will be very hard to beat.

Not sure Dissident will go on to the Cox Plate. Reckon he will be best staying around the 1600m at WFA.

Better Land my tip for the Golden Rose to make it a Golden Day for P G Moody.

And my man JMac- couple of nice price collects at Rosehill :)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 13, 2014, 03:10:14 PM
Just hope they push Puissance De Lune back over that 2000+ again soon
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 13, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
Just hope they push Puissance De Lune back over that 2000+ again soon

They went so slow in that race, he ran a super race.

The Group One Turnbull Stakes 2000m at Flemington in a Set Weights+ Penalties conditions in 3 weeks looks perfect for him.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 13, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
Good win by Hallowed Crown, the second horse Scissor Kick was huge, 4 and 5 wide the whole way.

Blake Shinn in the banned list- terrible ride on Better Land - 3 wide no cover the whole way
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 13, 2014, 03:53:06 PM
Just depends now on who goes to the Spring Champion in Sydney and who goes for the Caulfield Guineas, Staying on Chivalry anyway. Hollowed Crown a serious horse though
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Grazz on September 13, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
Black Caviar gave birth to her foal yesterday.  ;D
Sorry thats all i got. :(
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on September 14, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Dear Demi now into $21 for the Caufield Cup.
Get on guys before its next run. :)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on September 14, 2014, 08:56:55 PM
I'll be backing Admire Rakti and Bande, the two Japanese horses running in the CC.

The ran second and third respectively in a race in Japan called the Hanshin Daishoten behind a horse called Gold Ship, they beat the rest in the race by 6 lengths

Gold Ship will be the favourite for the Arc de Triomphe, the most prestigious WFA race in the world and is considered on of the best middle distance/staying horses in the world

At $21 and $17 respectively, Admire Rakti and Bande are over their true odds and the only difference is the weights they were given, but with Craig Williams likely to ride Admire Rakti I will be leaning more that way, even though he has 3.5kgs more than Bande

If he does not ride Admire Rakti, which has been offered to him for the CC and Melbourne Cups, he will either ride Bande or Dandino.

Had Dandino had a bit better form in Europe over their summer I would be on him now for the Melbourne Cup, but want to see how he goes in the CC before committing to take $26 on offer to back him now, remembering he had the runs in the CC (2nd) and Melbourne Cup (5th) last year and ran well in both races.

He did run well in the St Ledger in the US  at 2700m about a month ago but I am unsure how strong that race is.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on September 19, 2014, 10:43:26 PM
The Offer has its second run back in the Undewood tomorrow.
Will be charging late.
#bringonthemelbournecup
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 26, 2014, 06:23:06 PM
Mooney Valley racing tonight with some big races

Dear Demi just WON a 1600m race beating Commanding Jewell, what a horse 8)  On her @50 for the Caulfield cup but fear she will target the Cox Plate instead now :-\

Later in the JRA Cup, one of the best fields ive ever seen for this ace in memory! Ive backed Signoff!
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 26, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
The next race at the Valley is possibly Australia's best horse and the Worlds best Sprinter

Lankan Rupee, takes on Buffering as the champ looks to bounce back after getting run down last start after leading!

Hopefully Lankan Rupee doesn't lead tonight and is left to do his thing. Tough though in a five horse field containing some great sprinters

But, ive still got a hole left by the retirement of the Great Mare and her little Bro (Who's owners should be shot for retiring him)

I want to see Lankan Rupee belt em!
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: T Dog on September 26, 2014, 07:20:34 PM
I do like Rebel Dane ...as a roughy perhaps
Zebulon and Eximus in later races.. :)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 26, 2014, 07:21:42 PM
Lankan Rupee, Jockey cant ride, shocker!

the Great Buffering beat him, what a horse! Questions asked about LR though starting with the jockey
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: GM on September 26, 2014, 11:10:11 PM
Mooney Valley racing tonight with some big races

Dear Demi just WON a 1600m race beating Commanding Jewell, what a horse 8)  On her @50 for the Caulfield cup but fear she will target the Cox Plate instead now :-\

Later in the JRA Cup, one of the best fields ive ever seen for this ace in memory! Ive backed Signoff!
No T Connors has always had the Caulfield Cup as its Grand Final.
Didn't really handle the turn too well tonight.
Will appreciate getting back to Caulfield.
An outstanding run tonight and will only get better.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on September 27, 2014, 03:20:56 PM
Sheesh talk about murdering jockeys

Martain, WTF, learn to ride you flowertwit. This isn't Europe! Don't give don't give up on this horse just yet
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on October 04, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
Great day on the punt today.

Landed the Epsom, Turnbull and Flight stakes G1 winners.

Chautaqua  WOW! Will be mightily hard to beat up the straight in the G1 on Derby Day.

Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2014, 11:40:51 AM
got a $50 free bet for the Caulfield Cup any tips?
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Grazz on October 16, 2014, 11:09:44 AM
Caitlin Forrest passed away today after her fall at Murray bridge yesterday. Rip Caitlin way to young.  :'(
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on October 18, 2014, 04:55:31 PM
I'll be backing Admire Rakti and Bande, the two Japanese horses running in the CC.

The ran second and third respectively in a race in Japan called the Hanshin Daishoten behind a horse called Gold Ship, they beat the rest in the race by 6 lengths

Gold Ship will be the favourite for the Arc de Triomphe, the most prestigious WFA race in the world and is considered on of the best middle distance/staying horses in the world

At $21 and $17 respectively, Admire Rakti and Bande are over their true odds and the only difference is the weights they were given, but with Craig Williams likely to ride Admire Rakti I will be leaning more that way, even though he has 3.5kgs more than Bande

If he does not ride Admire Rakti, which has been offered to him for the CC and Melbourne Cups, he will either ride Bande or Dandino.

Had Dandino had a bit better form in Europe over their summer I would be on him now for the Melbourne Cup, but want to see how he goes in the CC before committing to take $26 on offer to back him now, remembering he had the runs in the CC (2nd) and Melbourne Cup (5th) last year and ran well in both races.

He did run well in the St Ledger in the US  at 2700m about a month ago but I am unsure how strong that race is.

Well Admire Rakti's win was painless, with my other 2 picks out it was an easy watch, gun ride by Zac and a good collect.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 18, 2014, 05:00:45 PM
Holy shower, Admire Rakti was amazing.

Gotta be a heavy favourite for the Melbourne Cup.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on October 18, 2014, 05:26:52 PM
Holy shower, Admire Rakti was amazing.

Gotta be a heavy favourite for the Melbourne Cup.

$9 into $5 for the Melbourne Cup

have it in all ups Caulfield Cup into Melbourne Cup and separately with him winning the Caulfield Cup and Fawkner winning the Cox Plate.

getting a tad nervous.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on October 24, 2014, 07:18:07 PM
Manikato Stakes night and Im on Lankan Rupee @ 3:80, put a bundle on him at that price!! HUge race though with Buffering and the other best sprinters in the land in this!

Had a couple of winners Aleady at the Valley though tonight :D  Like a Friday night punt after work at the local whilst downing a Coopers Sparkling Ale. But this is one of the biggest sprinting races of the year!

Cox plate coming soon, from the Rocks! ;)
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 24, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
Criterion for the Cox
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on October 25, 2014, 04:43:54 PM
WOW, what a plate. Adelaide won in a blanket, woweee

Fittingly Adelaide won :P  Didn't back him but   ... Boy oh boy wowee

Back in 97 when Saintly beat three others by a neck. Octagonal two lengths away fifth.

This beats it I think! Adelaide by a neck second, then five others in a blanket, WHAT A RACE

Oh and to all you Dumbass Victorians, Adelaide Won :P
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on October 31, 2014, 05:54:03 PM
Wowee what a day of racing tomorrow but who the flog to bet on? :o

My tip is to stay away but. I do like Caravan rolls on, smart horse. He's your Man looks a type in the Mackinnon.

Tempted to go Smoken Joey because he is a serious racehorse now fit and he races well fit but, huge weight has put he off this Handicap race. Hucklebuck me local boy to win that one! Smoken Joey right there for a place? Think so b ut has 1.5 kg too the next horse

Perhaps Catkins is the best bet at her odds of, which we never see
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2014, 01:24:13 PM
Hmmmmmmm, what does Signoff's big Lexus win entering him into Tuesday's Cup do? Considering he won the Sydney Cup in similar easy fashion, quite a bit

Going for him now!

MELBOURNE CUP live betting

ADMIRE RADKI $4.00
SIGNOFF $6
LUCIA VALENTINA $7
PROTECTIONIST $8
FAWKNER $8.50
MUTUAL REGARD 13
RED CADEAUX 16 E/W ;)
ARALDO $26
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: T Dog on November 01, 2014, 01:33:06 PM
Hmmmmmmm, what does Signoff's big Lexus win entering him into Tuesday's Cup do? Considering he won the Sydney Cup in similar easy fashion, quite a bit

Going for him now!

MELBOURNE CUP live betting

ADMIRE RADKI $4.00
SIGNOFF $6
LUCIA VALENTINA $7
PROTECTIONIST $8
FAWKNER $8.50
MUTUAL REGARD 13
RED CADEAUX 16 E/W ;)
ARALDO $26

still a couple of races that may throw something up from an overseas raider...do like Red Cadeaux though.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2014, 01:57:07 PM
Am on He's your Man but .. HAPPY TRAILS

GO ADELAIDE BOY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AAHAHAAAAAAA wowee boy oh boy, looked at him at the 500 and he looked like he was coming, near last but coming he was

WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: AaronKirk on November 01, 2014, 03:12:05 PM
Ollie has made my day.

3 wide, barely any cover but at $9 Preferment too damn good  :)

Had 1st and 2nd in the first 4, had 3rd and 4th both for 4th- late mind changed cost me 20% of the first 4  :'(

Signoff way too short for the MC, will be backing Protectionist and having a saver on Red Cadeaux. Already have a stack on Admire Rakti which I backed for the MC before the CC.

The Myer is a tough race, will be each way on Politeness.
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on November 01, 2014, 03:27:28 PM
I like Politeness but couldn't resist Catkins and Olli again on Derby day :P
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2014, 09:18:54 PM
any of the big underdogs in the Melbourne Cup a chance to place?

i mean like Sea Moon, Unchain My Heart, Mr O'ceirin
Title: Re: Racing Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2014, 12:06:53 PM
So, the Melbourne Cup is tomorrow, who do we like?

any of the big underdogs in the Melbourne Cup a chance to place?

i mean like Sea Moon, Unchain My Heart, Mr O'ceirin
Don't think so.

Out of those three, Unchain My Heart is probably the best chance but even then I wouldn't give it much of a chance.
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2014, 06:35:00 PM
Tbags Tips :)

1st. SIGNOFF, Superstar local, British bred, bottom weight! Worlds best Jockey!

2nd. ADMIRE RATKI

3rd. PROTIONIST

4th. LUCIA VALENTINA

Best Roughy: Who Shot the Barman
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 03, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
thoughts on Gatewood? was thinking a sneaky bet on him to place his odds look good for his form
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: tbagrocks on November 03, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
thoughts on Gatewood? was thinking a sneaky bet on him to place his odds look good for his form
Good horse, problem is this is no ordinary race, can place but probably cant win. Sneak the place bet though sure! Should run a big race and be somewhere near third Id imagine
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: T Dog on November 03, 2014, 07:10:42 PM
 Mutual Regard I reckon  , another 6 chances,  but may go with a raider  :)
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2014, 07:14:18 PM
Tbags Tips :)

1st. SIGNOFF, Superstar local, British bred, bottom weight! Worlds best Jockey!

2nd. ADMIRE RATKI

3rd. PROTIONIST

4th. LUCIA VALENTINA

Best Roughy: Who Shot the Barman
I know a Admire Rakti and Protectionist, but not a Admire Ratki and Protionist.  :P

Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: BratPack on November 03, 2014, 08:27:27 PM
As per usual on Melbourne Cup Eve it's time for my uneducated thoughts

BratPack's One Line Melbourne Cup Form Guide

1. Admire Rakti: Deserved Favorite. Will be in the finish. Weight and its last run at 3200 do give me pause though

2. Cavalryman: 9 times out of 10 beware when Godolphin isn't talking. Ran the race in 2012 and looks better than that now. Still can't see a 9yo winning though.

3. Fawkner: Ran an eyecatching race last and looked to be screaming for more distance at the Cox. Loves the track too. Big chance

4. Red Cadeaux: You know it will run top half and it did beat Admire Rakti home in its last run at 3200. But again I can't see a 9yo winning.

5. Protectionist Very lightly raced but has won at 3000 on a slow and was looking for more in the Herbert Power. I rate it highly.

6. Sea Moon Scratched for being a Nathan Lyon impersonator

7. Seismos Hard to see how you can go from such a poor showing in the Caulfield Cup to winning the Melbourne Cup. Distance is probably beyond it too. Nope

8. Junoob: It wasn't the worst in the Caulfield and won the Metro. I query the 3200 though. Not here

9. Royal Diamond: See Cavalryman and Red Cadeaux. Struggles at the top class too. Pass

10. Gatewood Never raced past 2500, needs the give in the ground. Too many red lights, not enough green.

11. Mutual Regard: 2 wins and 2 seconds over the distance, has Ollie on board and is racing a really light weight for it. Rating Highly

12. Who Shot Thebarman Forget it ever went 'round at Caulfield. Has been utterly crunched since Saturday and loves the track. Should be there at the end.

13. Willing Foe: Again beware when Godolphin isn't talking. Also general rule take the lesser known of their runners. That said I'd prefer it wet for it.

14. My Ambivalent 50-1 and probably should be 3 times that. Only raced once past 2400 and never came close. Nope

15. Precedence It's a Bart horse so you can never totally count it out but never finished better than 8th in the Cup and has been in better form than this. Place Only.

16. Brambles I don't see how you go from that run in the McKinnon to winning this. Pass

17. Mr O'Ceirin: 200-1 and should be 5 times that. Plus it's a mudlark. No

18. Au Revoir: I don't think it's the worst. He has shown it can get 3000. I just question the class. Value pick for Trifectas though

19. Lidari: He wasn't disgraced at Caulfield. I'd like the give in the ground though. Can't take

20. Opinion Probably should've won the Metro. Will get the distance too. I just don't think it can win unless it's wet.

21. Araldo Overraced at Caulfield. Will probably get the distance too. Not from 24 (Now 23) though.

22. Lucia Valentina: Ran a faster last 200 than Admire Rakti at Caulfield. Seems poised and has a light weight. Big Chance

23. Unchain My Heart It will get 3200. Loves the track too. But has Dean Yendall on board. Yendall of course being aboriginal for "Bush Jockey for life". Pass

24. Signoff Will probably be in the finish. But I never trust the Lexus. I won't be on

So my tips then in no order
3. Fawkner
5. Protectionist
11. Mutual Regard
12. Who Shot Thebarman
22. Lucia Valentina
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: blue on November 03, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
Got on mutual regard @ $34 a couple of months ago.
Thinking i wilI have a crack at Tri. And first 4 with
Junoob
Mutual regard
My ambivalent
Sign off
Willing foe
Lucia Valentino

I'm I mad to be leaving out admire rakti
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 04, 2014, 01:30:35 PM
11. Mutual Regard
14. My Ambivalent
18. Au Revoir
24. Signoff

they're the ones I got in the random draw. either one's good  ;D
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Nige on November 04, 2014, 01:52:20 PM
Done well with 11 and 24 there Kyle.
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 04, 2014, 02:00:54 PM
well that was a let down
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: elephants on November 04, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Bloody called that hahahaha. Mate owes me $100 now
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on November 04, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
The favourite Admire Rakti came last  :D
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Nige on November 04, 2014, 02:03:59 PM
PROTECTIONIST!  ;D ;D ;D

Did try to tell everyone.  :P

Chucked a $2.50 each way bet on it, I'll take it.
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 04, 2014, 02:05:01 PM
Had $30 on Red to place @7.50 :D
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Nige on November 04, 2014, 02:09:41 PM
Unfortunately Junoob got stuck in a bit of an odd spot or it could have made a run.

Willing Foe did well and ended up 5th or something, happy with that.  :P
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 04, 2014, 02:15:14 PM
Had protectionist, red cadeux and sign off in a trifecta. Spewing!
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Nige on November 04, 2014, 02:31:53 PM
Not looking good for Admire Rakti...  :(

Edit: News coming through that Admire Rakti has sadly collapsed and died after returning to the stalls.  :'(
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 04, 2014, 02:36:26 PM
yeah weird

wonder if any bets on him will get refunded since he obviously wasnt right

sportsbet do refunds like that
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: Nige on November 04, 2014, 02:43:57 PM
Rumours/word that there's a second horse in a bit of trouble.  :-\

Edit: Araldo apparently got frightened by something, kicked a fence and has severely injured a hind leg.  :(
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: LF on November 04, 2014, 02:52:23 PM
Was on Who shot the Barman
Fixed odds of $21/$6 had a each way of $5 so pretty happy with at least a little win today
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: BratPack on November 04, 2014, 03:27:35 PM
Had the winner and 3rd. Mum had 2nd and 4th

Naturally we did not have the First 4 put on  >:(
Title: Re: The 2014 Melbourne Cup
Post by: henry on November 04, 2014, 11:02:28 PM
Didnt see this thread, but can gloat  :P

Was on protectionist and mutual regard, with gatewood for the place. (if anyone doesn't believe me can show evidence  :P), so very happy with protectionist. I thought gatewood was a lock for top 10 finish, which sportsbet were offering, so got on that at $3.60, but it came 12th. Made a nice profit though, was the only race I bet on today.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on November 06, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
Ok so my horse finished 4th in the Cup, had my third pick win it though ;D

Backed the Oaks winner though, what fun

Set Square won the Oaks from only her fourth start
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 06, 2014, 04:13:24 PM
i'm up for the day and got Sadaqa to place in race 8
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on November 06, 2014, 04:21:39 PM
i'm up for the day and got Sadaqa to place in race 8
Race #9 :P

BTW thanks for helping the FF community with some handy tips :)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 06, 2014, 04:23:36 PM
i'm up for the day and got Sadaqa to place in race 8
Race #9 :P

BTW thanks for helping the FF community with some handy tips :)

is that sarcasm? i have been posting that facebook page around i didn't want to push my luck
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on November 08, 2014, 02:12:15 PM
Le Roi ::)  back him a few starts and he places, look elsewhere and he wins >:(

Lankan Rupee surely! Odds coming in now, got him @ $5.50 last night into $4.60 SP, backing him in down the straight but it is a heck of a race

Emirates and on Smokin' Joey @ $21, followed him since his 2nd in this race last year and it's such a sweet story, back to the Mile now and will be right in the finish and better weighted today  ;D
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on November 08, 2014, 03:36:39 PM
For those that call me "So bias I cant see past me SA nose"

I was on Smokin' Joey and left "Hucklebuck" which was hard I admit, thought against backing two horses

But Hucklebuck, wowee what a win in the G1 Emirates stakes 8)

UP SOUTH ASTRALIA, three wins today at Flemington 8)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on November 08, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
had 3 seconds and a third today  :'(

How the hell did Hucklebuck run the mile........... (Can you tell I was on Lucky Hussler)

Backed the 2nd horse e/w in the first and e/w on the second horse in the third at Flemington

Went straight out on Prince of Penzance in the 5th (2nd) and Lankan Rupee in the Darley Classic.

I'm up for the week- having backed the winner in the Derby and the Cup... but just

I like Girl in Flight in the 8th each way and Fast 'N' Rocking straight out in the last.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on November 08, 2014, 04:01:31 PM
had 3 seconds and a third today  :'(

How the hell did Hucklebuck run the mile........... (Can you tell I was on Lucky Hussler)

Backed the 2nd horse e/w in the first and e/w on the second horse in the third at Flemington

Went straight out on Prince of Penzance in the 5th (2nd) and Lankan Rupee in the Darley Classic.

I'm up for the week- having backed the winner in the Derby and the Cup... but just

I like Girl in Flight in the 8th each way and Fast 'N' Rocking straight out in the last.

Make that 4 seconds and a third,  Girl in Flight 2nd in the 8th
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on November 08, 2014, 04:37:36 PM
had 3 seconds and a third today  :'(

How the hell did Hucklebuck run the mile........... (Can you tell I was on Lucky Hussler)

Backed the 2nd horse e/w in the first and e/w on the second horse in the third at Flemington

Went straight out on Prince of Penzance in the 5th (2nd) and Lankan Rupee in the Darley Classic.

I'm up for the week- having backed the winner in the Derby and the Cup... but just

I like Girl in Flight in the 8th each way and Fast 'N' Rocking straight out in the last.

Make that 4 seconds and a third,  Girl in Flight 2nd in the 8th

4 seconds, 2 thirds and 3 no good. Shocking Day

Phillip Stokes take a bow, takes 3 horses from SA to Flemington and they all salute. One of the top handful of trainers in the country/
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on January 09, 2015, 09:09:20 PM
It's the Magic Millions on the Gold Coast tomorrow and I like No #7 Frequendly :)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on October 23, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
Ok haven't posted this spring (Sorry :-[ ) but it's Cox Plate week

Chautauqua is a superstar and runs in the Manikato, cant wait to see him tbh I think he might be the best horse in the country atm

Cox Plate tomorrow and Criterion for me! But my heart will be with SA boy Happy Trails (Second last year)

I backed the Caulfield Cup winner last week (Also had a place bet on the third place :P ) But I think Mongolian Khan will win again next week :o  Dandino second in the Geelong Cup Wednesday will run in the top five in the Cup ;)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on October 23, 2015, 07:24:17 PM
Fame game is a just about a good thing in the Melbourne Cup.

Should have won the CC if ridden properly. Weaved in between horses and under a hold ran sub 12 second sectionals from the 800 to the finish.

As I know one of the connections who brought the horse out from Japan I fortunately saved my $ on it as they basically said they are here to win the Melbourne Cup and didn't want a weight penalty by winning the CC.

Hoping my man Buffering can win the Manikato tonight but Chatauqua and Terravista at their best probably have his measure.

The Cox Plate is the best race of the spring (as it is every year) and IMO the international form is lengths superior to the locals.

I'm with you Tbag. I like Criterion. Missed out on the plunge last start but his form is excellent and he will be hard to beat.

Highland Reel, Arod and Gailo Chop all Waller's 3 will run well.

Tudor tonight as my best bet of the 2 days. Race 6 number 11. Currently 8.50 fixed with Sportsbet.

Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: enzedder on October 24, 2015, 12:58:31 PM
Agree about FameGame... I won't be on anything else in the Cup.
Backed Preferment in the Cox. Too juicy for me not to. Been kind to me and see no reason to jump off.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: jvalles69 on October 24, 2015, 01:34:58 PM
Lots of money back specials for Moonee Valley today.

Race 1 - Valliano (2nd cashback)
Race 2 - Diamond Oasis (2nd cashback)
Race 3 - Seeking Asylum/Sempre Libera
Race 4 - Hollar/Mawahib
Race 6 - Bondeiger
Race 7 - Pasadena Girl
Race 8 - Turn Me Loose
Race 9 - Criterion
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on October 24, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
Lots of money back specials for Moonee Valley today.

Race 1 - Valliano (2nd cashback)
Race 2 - Diamond Oasis (2nd cashback)
Race 3 - Seeking Asylum/Sempre Libera
Race 4 - Hollar/Mawahib
Race 6 - Bondeiger
Race 7 - Pasadena Girl
Race 8 - Turn Me Loose
Race 9 - Criterion


Yeah same here.

Race 1 I was on Valliano (2nd), Race 3 Thames Court (3rd), Race 4 Brockhoff (2nd). Money back for those. Got Tawteen in race 2.

Been a bit of a shocker at the Valley (my best bet from last night Tudor ran 2nd as well), was on Terravista in the Manikato (shocking ride by JMac).

On Tarzino heavily in the Vase (race 7).

Still trying to line up the international v domestic form for the Cox Plate.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on October 24, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
Newitt got way too far back on Tarzino.... another placing...
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: GM on October 24, 2015, 08:22:36 PM
Winx , what a champion.
Mongolian into Winx into Preferment x $100
1 leg to go  :)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on November 02, 2015, 11:49:21 AM
Time for my favorite time of the year.

BratPack's Annual Super Short Melbourne Cup Preview

1. Snow Sky: He looked okay in the Caulfield, has won over 2800, I don't know if I'd take him on weight grounds though

2. Criterion: Got home well in the Cox after being poleaxed on the turn. Hayes does train good Melbourne cup runners. I'll pass though, unless it powers down.

3. Fame Game: Deserved favorite, looked like it was screaming for 2 miles at Caulfield. Has won over 3400m. It'll either win....or die. Either/or. It's never raced on anything other than good though. That concerns me should there be rain.

4. Our Ivanhowe: Comes out of the Protectionist line, F.B.I training, but it tired at the end of the Caulfield and it hasn't run 3200. Others are better than him

5. Big Orange: It won the Goodwood over the distance so that's something. But I couldn't take it on its last run.

6. Hartnell: It's a Godolphin horse so it should be up for this. I get the feeling it's a mudlark though

7. Hokko Brave The other Japanese horse. It'll get the 3200, does it match up to Fame Game though? Probably not, still I think it's worth considering

8. Max Dynamite Great name. Great Experience over 3200. I don't see a hurdler winning the cup though and it probably needs it wet. Sorry Frankie, you're waiting another year.

9. Red Cadeaux I said last year a 9 year old couldn't win the cup and it almost did, he's the sentimental favorite no doubt, but if I think 9 year olds can't win just guess what I think of 10 year olds? I won't be on.

10. Trip to Paris: Good at the distance, flew home in the Caulfield. Probably the best outside Fame Game. Definitely want something on it.

11. Who Shot TheBarman: Also got home in the Caulfield and has a good record the distance. $21 seems overpriced, wouldn't surprise me if it gets smashed at Call of the Card this arvo.

12. Sky Hunter: The other Goldolphin runner. Never raced past 2700 though, still I'd probably throw something at it because the ones you DON'T expect to run a race from Godolphin generally do.

13. The Offer: Can run the distance, has got the Gai touch. I just don't see a horse going from the Bendigo Cup to the Melbourne Cup. Pass

14: Grand Marshall: Did win the Sydney cup. But that was on a wet track and its form is pretty dire. I'm happy to lay it

15. Preferment: It won the Derby last year so 3200 shouldn't be a problem, Waller will have it ready and Bowman on board, nice each way claims

16: Quest for More: I couldn't have it after Geelong....But it does do pretty good at 3200, might be something to mix in first 4/trifecta wise or have a mug $1 each way on.

17. Almoonqith: Weird name. Solid Horse. It did battle on it's only other run at 3200, so it should get there. Another Each Way hope.

18. Kingfisher: Good stable. I just don't rate it though, there's others that make more appeal

19. Prince of Penzance: If the odds paid on the leader past the post the first time then I'd say jump on board, as it is it's $201 and should probably be double that. Nope

20. Bondi Beach: I don't know if a horse only having its 6th start can win a Melbourne Cup. I'd like to see a bit more give in the ground too. Could surprise but not for me.

21. Sertorius. It sorta kinda got home at Geelong, but it's only other start at 3200 was well held. Not for me.

22. The United States: Caught the eye at Moonee Valley. If only the MV Cup meant jack shower any more, Still it isn't the worst.

23. Excess Knowledge: Do I need to break into my Lexus stakes rant again or can we all just agree that this one has flower all hope? Didn't think so. Move on.

24. Gust of Wind: Battled on well in the Caulfield and beat Winx at the AJC Derby. Distance is a question mark but I think it can run a race at odds.

My tips then in no particular order
3. Fame Game
10. Trip to Paris
15. Preferment
17. Almoonqith
24. Gust of Wind
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2015, 10:45:06 AM
Good summary there, BP. I'm no expert on the Cup, but I like to do some research and learn all I can in hope of picking the winner for bragging rights.

Got on Protectionist last year so going back-to-back would be nice.

Not too sure who to pick out, but I'm never one to back the odds on favourite, rather somebody around the mark.

Think I'll jump on Preferment this time. Trip to Paris and Almoonqith (if for no reason other than that name) to round out the podium.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: GM on November 03, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
I will be changing my name to Preferwinx.
If Preferment gets up.
Looking at life changing  money if the Waller / Bowman combo gets up.
Let the Stars align  :)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Rusty00 on November 03, 2015, 11:01:03 AM
Fame Game has eased out to $5 now. Was down to $3.40 at one stage and some were saying he would end up being the shortest priced favourite ever in the Cup.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: elephants on November 03, 2015, 11:08:30 AM
I've been chucking some cash around on the first couple of races at Flemington...

Race 1 - Prompt Response win paying $5 ended up running second so money back
Race 2 - Lilly Dazzler win paying $7.50 ended up running third so also got money back

Looking at Race 3 and from what I can see there's 18 horses in there so it might be worth giving this one a pass!
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 03, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
did not even know today was Melb Cup day
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: RiOtChEsS on November 03, 2015, 12:01:11 PM
did not even know today was Melb Cup day
haha yeah i forgot until yesty
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 03, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
Put 200 on Fame Game. Show me the money!
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: The_Captain on November 03, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Put 200 on Fame Game. Show me the money!

What odds you get him at? Happy to get him @9s about a month back!
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: elephants on November 03, 2015, 12:28:55 PM
$50 on Malaguerra in race 4 paying $6 thanks for that payout legend!
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: blue on November 03, 2015, 02:20:30 PM
Have settled on the United states $10 e/w, $10 quin with fame game and $30 worth of mystery bets
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 03, 2015, 02:49:25 PM
Well that cow was flowering dud
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: elephants on November 03, 2015, 02:51:20 PM
Criterion to place, cheers champion!

Fame Game spudded hard though :/
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Nige on November 03, 2015, 02:52:02 PM
Me to Mum and my Uncle who put money on half the field: "I really hope somebody like Sertorius or Prince of Penzance who are the longest odds get up for showers and giggles" and then 5 mins later...  ;D
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 03, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
Prince of Penzance, absolute gun  8))
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: jvalles69 on November 03, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
Criterion to place, cheers champion!

Fame Game spudded hard though :/

Don't know where it finished, but good horses that aren't in the race tend to take it easy and fall away to last instead of risk injury by pushing the horse too hard when it doesn't look promising.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: fanTCfool on November 03, 2015, 09:44:54 PM
So the jockey on 2nd gets rubbed out for a month for being careless, plus a $20,000 fine, but gets to keep 2nd?
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Ringo on November 04, 2015, 09:02:32 AM
At least one of the winning owners has a strong AFL connection

"Gold Coast Suns media man @S_Wilson_ is cheering loudest right now - part owner in The Prince! Good on ya Wilbur"
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: AaronKirk on February 20, 2016, 01:14:57 PM
Do yourselves a favour and have a look at the replay of the win or a horse called Wetherley in race 2 at Flemington.

Unbelievable win. Missed the kick, ran down the outside with only 2 other horses when the rest were on the better part of the track on the inside and won hard held comfortably.

I checked the Golden Slipper market and it is $21 in an all-in market with William Hill

Definitely worth a bet IMO. With the TAB is 31 into 9 for the Blue Diamond Group 1 next week but the part owner John Messara said their main goal is the slipper post race.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on October 31, 2016, 06:30:32 PM
So I've come up with a top 6 that I think can win the 2016 Melbourne Cup

In my tipping order
5. Exospherc: That Caulfield Cup run looked special
1. Big Orange: Far better shape after last years 5th
12. Jameka: Best female 4yr old since, well, Winx :P  But She's flying!!! And She's Aussie!
6. Hartnell: I think he peeked a month ago but may have been set for this all along!
8. Wicklow Brave: Cannot be ignored despite not running in Oz, best of the Internationals I think! (Despite tipping only 5th, Based on never running here)
20. Oceonographer: Who could not be impressed by that amazing Lexus run at Flemington on Sat?

I also think Almandin, Qewy and only because of Jockey's despite never running in Oz, Bondi Beach and Heartbreak City have huge place chances

 ..........  Good Luck
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: valkorum on October 31, 2016, 06:54:28 PM
I am not sold on Exospheric as it has never raced over 2412, even though Damian Oliver is the jockey.

On a different note, I have just bought a share in a 2yo Bay Filly over here in WA.  Named Browsing and will have her maiden run at Ascot on 12/11/2016.  It ran a 400m trial last week which she won. Click here to watch race (http://rwwa.com.au/cris/JwPlayer.aspx?jw=JnJlcGxheVVybD1odHRwOi8vcGxheWVyLnZpbWVvLmNvbS9leHRlcm5hbC8xODg1OTU2OTcuc2QubXA0P3M9NTE0YzZhYmViNTYxYmNmMmYyZTIyOGJhMGIyMTBiM2QwYjVlOTE0OCZwcm9maWxlX2lkPTE2NCZvYXV0aDJfdG9rZW5faWQ9ODk5NjI4Nzc3JnZlbnVlPUxBUksmcmFjZURhdGU9MjAxNi0xMC0yNCZyYWNlTnVtPTI=) (she is the horse on the outside)

If she goes well she will be spelled and then start getting ready in the new year for the 2yo racing season in Perth (March - May)

Not sure how she will go, as the race will be 1100m but you never know with 2yo.  And yes the rule applies - don't bet on 2yo's
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on October 31, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Well I tend to do it anyway so let's do it again

Bratpack's One Line (Per Horse) Melbourne Cup Preview

1. Big Orange: Came 5th last year in a race that didn't suit him. speed probably will here though. But needs it dry.

2. Our Ivanhowe: It did have a good run in the Caulfield considering. I don't think it can carry equal top weight and win though.

3. Curren Mirotic: No 9 Year old gelding has ever won the Melbourne Cup and that won't change this year. Still probably a POD for your multiples as it will get the 3200

4. Bondi Beach: Got trampled on last year. So forget that. The stable knows how to win. The horse does. I don't know if I can take it 3.5kg worse than last year though. Probably have to give it some chance though.

5. Exospheric: If I was watching the runs it's had at Werribee I'd say hell no. Did get home in the Caufield though. But 1st start over 3200 means I'm probably leaving it out.

6. Hartnell: Couldn't beat Winx. Can it beat this lot though? Probably....if that run in the Cox wasn't its peak.....

7. Whoshotthebarman: The poor mans Red Cadeaux (RIP). Will give a sight. Don't think it can win though. But you have to include in your multiples.

8. Wicklow Brave: Is this Frankie's year? Saturday Arvo I would've said "Yes". But then it drew the car park. A chance but not a great one any more.

9. Almoonqith: I don't understand why this is still $26 considering its Caulfield run. My gut still says no. But it's not a $26 chance.

10. Galante: Did win the Sydney Cup and probably needs it going that direction to have a hope. But if it throws it down....

11. Grand Marshall: Probably ran its race at the Valley. But if the pace is kamikaze like they're expecting it's not the worst one to be on.

12. Jameka: I doubted her in the Caulfield and she smashed them. Won the Oaks last year.....but I still have my doubts. Take of that what you will.

13. Heartbreak City: Aptly named considering it was another I liked until it drew the Mad Mouse at the Showgrounds. Still....it does tick a lot of boxes....but the gate.....

14. Sir John Hawkwood: Won't get the distance. Won't get a place.

15. Excess Knowledge: Seems to be going about as well as it was last year, where it lead into the straight and then promptly faded to nothing. Might taste the prizemoney (Top 10) but won't challenge the first 4.

16. Beautiful Romance: It's a Godolphin horse and they're not talking about it. That alone makes me intrigued (See Beekeeper, Central Park). I think I prefer the other imports though.

17. Almandin: It's the one (Along with Jameka) that was crunched today. And it has looked good its last two runs and has a lightweight. Can it get 3200 though?

18. Assign: Carrying the hopes of female back to back winner hopes everywhere. I don't think its a Prince of Penzance though. Of course this time last year I didn't think Prince of Penzance was a Prince of Penzance. But with its gate (The Animal Pavilion at the Showgrounds) I'll still pass.

19. Grey Lion: How to assess this one?....It did run a great race at the Geelong Cup and the form has held up. But at the same time Geelong was heavily on pace biased. Each way.....I think.

20. Oceanographer: Yes it looked the cup winner on Saturday in the Lexus....but if you read these previews the last 3-4 years you know I never rate the Lexus as anything. Still it did swoop home for 3rd at the biased Geelong...But....no I won't be on it.

21. Secret Number: Came out for the Cup last year (It didn't qualify but came 2nd on the last day). The draw suits. The class doesn't though.

22. Pentathlon: It's a chance.....if half the field falls over and they somehow run an extra lap.

23. Qewy: Like Grey Lion and to some extent Oceanographer, it's an either/or. It's either a red hot chance or it got lucky on a biased track. Personally? I think it's the forgotten chance.

24. Rose of Virginia: Why this got a run after that run Saturday I will never know. Nice for the young apprentice riding him I guess, but not for anyone else.

So....what to make of it.

Let's say. In no particular order

6. Hartnell
1. Big Orange
23. Qewy
17. Almandin
4. Bondi Beach
9. Almoonqith
With Roughie chances to Wicklow Brave and Heartbreak City if they can overcome the gates
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 31, 2016, 07:55:52 PM
who do you guys think is the best long shot to place?

i like putting $10 on one with big odds to place
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: tbagrocks on October 31, 2016, 08:14:16 PM
Maybe the only one in the country with no Jamika  BP? Interesting

I was thinking either Big Orange or Wicklow Brave as the best to plunge a plenty on for a place!
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: shaker on October 31, 2016, 08:46:53 PM
Always a very hard race to pick except for when the diva was running , I will do my same flexi trifecta for $50 bucks with 8 horses ....... maybe this year I can crack it  ::)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on October 31, 2016, 08:47:54 PM
Maybe the only one in the country with no Jamika  BP? Interesting

As I said. There's something in my gut that keeps telling me "No" with Jameka. But as I also said I had the same thought at Caulfield.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on October 31, 2016, 08:52:52 PM
who do you guys think is the best long shot to place?

i like putting $10 on one with big odds to place

Tough to say. If the Geelong Cup form is solid and not just "Biased track" Then I'd say Grey Lion or Qewy is your go. But if it is the latter....Grand Marshall maybe? Depends what you mean by "Big Odds" do you mean like $5 the place? or are you more like 7 or 8?
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 31, 2016, 08:53:08 PM
Food for thought, cheers man, i am a "shot in the dark" with horse racing, you have given me a compass
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on October 31, 2016, 11:52:24 PM
who do you guys think is the best long shot to place?

i like putting $10 on one with big odds to place

Tough to say. If the Geelong Cup form is solid and not just "Biased track" Then I'd say Grey Lion or Qewy is your go. But if it is the latter....Grand Marshall maybe? Depends what you mean by "Big Odds" do you mean like $5 the place? or are you more like 7 or 8?

 i mean like $20 + to place lol
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on November 01, 2016, 07:32:55 AM
who do you guys think is the best long shot to place?

i like putting $10 on one with big odds to place

Tough to say. If the Geelong Cup form is solid and not just "Biased track" Then I'd say Grey Lion or Qewy is your go. But if it is the latter....Grand Marshall maybe? Depends what you mean by "Big Odds" do you mean like $5 the place? or are you more like 7 or 8?

 i mean like $20 + to place lol

I don't think one will get to $20 the place. But closest to it would be Rose of Virginia, Pentathlon and Beautiful Romance
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: RiOtChEsS on November 01, 2016, 10:53:26 AM
Im goin Heartbreak City
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 01, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
Exospheric is running. it'll win for sure!
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2016, 12:38:59 PM
my bets

just need one to win for a profit

Big Orange win extra odds @16.00
Qewy place @7.50
Almoonqith place @7.50
Pentathlon place @21.00
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: valkorum on November 01, 2016, 01:20:26 PM
My Bets:

Big Orange / Hartnell for the Quinella
Hartnell for win

Still waiting for my sweeps to be drawn at work.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: fanTCfool on November 01, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
I don't know much about horse-racing, but need one of Bondi Beach, Who Shot THEBARMAN, Almoonqith, Jameka, Excess Knowledge, Beautiful Romance to win
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: GoLions on November 01, 2016, 02:32:13 PM
Grey Lion, Big Orange, Hartnell, Exospheric. Leggo.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: LF on November 01, 2016, 02:33:39 PM
I've got some cash on Big Orange and Qewy then a boxed trifecta with both of them and Hartnell then some mystery trifectas
and I had $4 on my Sportsbet account so picked 4 trifectas.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 01, 2016, 02:51:54 PM
well poo
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: elephants on November 01, 2016, 02:55:20 PM
haha aaaaand the bookies are over the moon, again.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on November 01, 2016, 03:03:10 PM
haha aaaaand the bookies are over the moon, again.

Not really. They'll finish in front but Almandin was smashed the last two days, they'd have been happier with Heartbreak City
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: elephants on November 01, 2016, 03:11:11 PM
haha aaaaand the bookies are over the moon, again.

Not really. They'll finish in front but Almandin was smashed the last two days, they'd have been happier with Heartbreak City

Meh, even still they'll make millions from this imo
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Nige on November 01, 2016, 03:14:17 PM
Each-way bets on Almandin and Hartnell, can't complain.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: shaker on November 01, 2016, 07:30:43 PM
Always a very hard race to pick except for when the diva was running , I will do my same flexi trifecta for $50 bucks with 8 horses ....... maybe this year I can crack it  ::)

Finally got the trifecta  :) got just on $230 back  :P
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Jukes on November 01, 2016, 08:39:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/U6O7ND9.jpg)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: valkorum on November 02, 2016, 11:41:09 AM
The trainer of my horse sent me a message today - my horse has shin soreness and wont be racing next weekend.  Will probably be spelled and then get ready for the Autumn season here in Perth.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: The_Captain on November 02, 2016, 04:15:28 PM
When you get Almandin at 17s 3 days prior  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: R.Griffen on May 07, 2017, 11:25:46 PM
Not sure if any of you follow horse racing but Rapper Dragon one of the best horses in the world atm. Clear favourite at Sha Tin today was pulled up by the Magic Man along the back straight when he heard a loud snapping sound. The horse had a broken pelvis and has now been put down.

Went from being maybe the most exciting horse in the world to a thing the past. Such a sad day
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: enzedder on November 05, 2017, 09:18:58 AM
Who are we all on in the 2017 Melbourne Cup?
Big Duke is my pick.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Gandalf123 on November 05, 2017, 11:11:23 AM
Amelie's star is one I'm looking at
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Nige on November 06, 2017, 04:24:22 PM
Looking at a few at the moment.

Humidor, Marmelo, Nakeeta and Amelie’s Star all interest me. Also a bit of interest in Johannes Vermeer, Wall of Fire, Rekindling and Tiberian.

Likely going with a couple of each ways and an exacta, so I’ll make up my mind some time tonight after I do a bit more analysis.
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on November 06, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
Ahhh it's that time of year again

BratPack's super short Melbourne Cup Preview

1. Hartnell: Ran its race last year and still faded out. Now carrying 57.5? Nope not here

2. Almandin The defending champ looking to become the next Makybe Diva. I'm not as confident this year as I was last year, but you still have to put in the chances.

3. Humidor Not for me. It ran its race in the Cox and it's never been past 2400.

4. Tiberian Someone saw something in him. But a combination of distance query plus drawing the Mad Mouse at the Showgrounds means I'm passing on it.

5. Marmelo Looked good rattling home in the Caulfield Cup, and won the race Protectionist did winning the Cup. Probably needs to be on speed though and I question whether it can get a spot from 16. Still probably have to have it though.

6. Red Cardinal It'll get 3200. But considering it drew the car park it's probably going to have to run 4000. Right jockey for the job though.

7. Johannes Vermeer: Nope. The Caulfield was its target. This is just making up the numbers.

8. Bondi Beach Beaten well the last two years when in much better form. Pass

9. Max Dynamite: I still don't think a former hurdler can win the Melbourne Cup but it did come close last time it was here. Each way.

10. Ventura Storm Hard to know what to make of it. It does have staying form but that Caulfield Cup run was awful. I think it may have run its race against Winx. Pass.

11. Whoshotthebarman Scratched

12. Wicklow Brave Well it didn't draw the car park this year so that's something. But I can't see a 9 year old winning the Cup. Maybe multiples.

13. Big Duke Right trainer. Wrong Horse. This ain't Prince of Penzance folks. You don't go from beaten 5 in the Bendigo Cup to winning the Melbourne Cup. Pass.

14. US Army Ranger I didn't like it BEFORE it drew the Animal Enclosure at the Showgrounds. Just guess what I think of it's chances now?

15. Boom Time Ran its race in the Caulfield. Nope.

16. Gallante It will get 3200. That's the only good thing I can say about it. Hell no.

17. Libran Did come second in the Sydney Cup over the distance. But that was on a mudpit. Can't see it here.

18. Nakeeta Has the right form coming in. I query if its another Heartbreak City though. Might be something to throw in there for value.

19. Single Gaze Was eyecatching in the Caulfield and generally battles on. Can't see it getting 3200 though. Nope.

20. Wall of Fire It'll get the 3200. Class is a slight question but I think it's one of the top chances

21. Thomas Hobson: A. Hurdler. Will. Not. Win. The. Melbourne. Cup.

22. Rekindling Lightweight. Looks like it's asking for 3200. But very very green. I'll still be on each way. But I think 2018 is a better shot for it.

23. Amelie's Star Nope. Not classy enough and big doubts over the distance.

24. Cismontane Lexus winner. Guess where that leaves it with me? If they paid on first past the post with a lap to go then yes. Otherwise bugger off.

Tips in no particular order
2. Almandin
5. Marmelo
9. Max Dynamite
20. Wall of Fire
22. Rekindling

Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: shaker on November 07, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
Not much of a gambler on the G Gee's but always have a flexi trifecta on the cup this year have gone with 2,5,6,20,22,23 for $25 for a return of 20.83% have never won since I started doing it many years ago maybe this year  :P good luck to all ;)
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: Torpedo10 on November 07, 2017, 02:44:25 PM
Rekindling!
Title: Re: Horse Racing Thread
Post by: BratPack on November 07, 2017, 07:56:37 PM
Lesson for today: Never trust your old man when he says he'll put on your bets for you.

Tipped the winner. Only he didn't put my tips on properly and put on Thomas Hobson and not Rekindling  >:(