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Title: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 05, 2013, 09:09:42 AM
In a bit early, but discuss the game against the crows here.

Team
Golby, Merrett, Lester
Adcock, Patfull, Yeo
Zorko, Rockliff, Hanley
Polkinghorn, Brown, Green
McGrath, Martin, Bewick

Rucks - Luenberger, Rich, Moloney
Interchange - Raines, Redden, Karnezis, Beams

Beams will be sub imo
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 05, 2013, 09:12:54 AM
Not so sure on Beams, he did alright after he came in against the Dogs last week after being the sub. Karnezis didn't do too much, maybe he gets the vest instead? I hope not, he needs to score big for me this week.

And come on Lions, lets bounce back with a big win at home! Need them to do well as I have a bet with tbag.
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 05, 2013, 09:14:45 AM
Not so sure on Beams, he did alright after he came in against the Dogs last week after being the sub. Karnezis didn't do too much, maybe he gets the vest instead? I hope not, he needs to score big for me this week.

And come on Lions, lets bounce back with a big win at home! Need them to do well as I have a bet with tbag.

I really hope Karnezis isn't sub. It will kill my DT. Go well with your bet ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 05, 2013, 10:58:11 AM
Looking at Brisbane's Bench.

Raines - Will probably be required to tag Thompson or Dangerfield unless Zorks or Redden are given the run with roles in which case Raines could get the vest. Doubt this will be the case though as he will add some of the mongrel that was missing last week and may be the support Rich needs to help break the tag.
Lester - Very versatile player who can cover all positions Back, Mid or forward - Because of this versatility hard to see him getting the vest.
Karnezis - Disappointing last week may be given chance to redeem himself but hard to see him avoiding vest given Beams performance last week.   
Beams - Possibly as a result of players tiring was really impressive and racked the points up and should avoid vest this week.

Personally I hope Karny avoids the vest as I need him to score well for my Fantasy Teams as well. Would of preferred to see Karny named on field with Polkinghorne on bench and possible vest,

I think our structure looks a little more sound this week with only 2 talls forward and a mosquito brigade of Zorko, Green, Bewick and McGrath, Probaly need to go this way as well to combat Crows run.

Bit disappointed that I may not get to the game due to foot blowing up and I can hardly walk. Good Luck with bet with Tbag BB have had some banter with him myself because he thinks Rog is a spud so really want him to lower Texs shorts tomorrow.

Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 05, 2013, 01:28:21 PM
Wow I can't believe Polkinghorne keeps his spot after what he did last week. Was just disgraceful.
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 05, 2013, 01:54:27 PM
Wow I can't believe Polkinghorne keeps his spot after what he did last week. Was just disgraceful.
Could he get the vest? Just because he's named on field, doesn't mean he'll play there
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 05, 2013, 02:42:52 PM
Wow I can't believe Polkinghorne keeps his spot after what he did last week. Was just disgraceful.
Could he get the vest? Just because he's named on field, doesn't mean he'll play there
We can only hope. Bewick is the other who wore the vest a few times last year but think he is a little safer this year.
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 05, 2013, 03:44:52 PM
extremely frustrating polkinghorne gets picked at HF when mayes is sitting on the emergency list.

im expecting bewick to be the sub with zorko pushing into the forwards and bewick will replace either polkinghorne or Karnezis
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 05, 2013, 04:49:02 PM
extremely frustrating polkinghorne gets picked at HF when mayes is sitting on the emergency list.

im expecting bewick to be the sub with zorko pushing into the forwards and bewick will replace either polkinghorne or Karnezis
If it was last year would agree Strikes but Bewick is playing more the HF role this year and seems to be adapting well. The continued selection of Polkinghorne frustrates me just how many chances will he get,  Mayes will get games soon imo just started a little behind the others because of injury.

Really hope we continue to remain injury free with players putting pressure on - Harwood and Clarke were BOG in reserves last week so will put pressure on Defenders, Lisle kicked 6 goals, Banfield and Mayes were also amongst the best so hopefully this will force some of the Seniors to lift this week.
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 05, 2013, 05:50:05 PM
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-05/tag-coming-richs-way (http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-05/tag-coming-richs-way) :( :( :(
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 05, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
Yeah Rich really needs to learn how to cope with a tag. It is going to happen to him just about every week.
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 05, 2013, 06:58:51 PM
Not just Rich but his team mates need to help him.  Look at other teams as to how taggers are harrassed as well this was lacking against Bulldogs but with Raines back in may add the mongrel.

He has been coping 2nd tag for the last 2 years but with Blackie missing is coping No 1 tag and will be part of his ongoing development.

Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 06, 2013, 10:58:19 PM
my thoughts on tonights match.

fantasy owners i think karneizis will be getting the punt tonight. yes he played half a quarter but in the mean time he conceded a costly free kick and didnt chase rory sloane into the forward pocket. voss should take action against that. Great to see big leuy back. fantastic played so mobile for a big man especially coming off a 12 month injury lay off. think voss may ring the changes again this week. yeo was very fumbly tonight.could suffer by getting dropped, either goose will be rushed back in or Docherty may get his debut. Ash McGrath will most likely make way. look for Sam Mayes, Todd Banfield, Jordan lisleand also Aaron Cornellious.

Polkinghorne is vossy's love child so he probably did enough tonight. this would be my changes for next week with note of mcgurie not being fit.

Yeo, McGrath, Karneizis out

Docherty, Mayes, Lisle in
Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 07, 2013, 09:06:48 AM
Agree to a certain extent but instead of Docherty maybe Harwood or Clarke who are both playing better than Doc in reserves.  If Fit Maguire for Yeo if not Harwood/Clarke.

Banfield has also been tearing up the reserves so he may come into the mix to replace McGrath but I would go with Mayes.  Bartlett as also had two good games so he may come into consideration.

Lisle or Cornelius to replace Karny although Karny may be given another chance seeing sub.  Agree should cop the full wrath for allowing Sloane to get the position he did especially seeing he was fresh.

Much better performance from the boys yesterday afternoon. Our accuracy in front of goal hurt us especially in third quarter when we were dominating and kicked 4.8 so should have had a much bigger lead going into last quarter. Had more scoring shots than crows 27 - 26 for the game. Windy conditions did not help but still not an excuse for wayward goal kicking.



Title: Re: Brisbane round 2 Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 07, 2013, 12:56:42 PM
We really need to turn this goal kicking accuracy business around. It is costing us a lot at the moment, we are not kicking accurately at all over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 08, 2013, 07:40:34 AM
Whats the chance of Karnezis getting dropped for the Q Clash?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on April 10, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
haha, anyone seen the latest grill?

if you have, you'll know what I mean by classic :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 10, 2013, 05:38:41 PM
haha, anyone seen the latest grill?

if you have, you'll know what I mean by classic :P
I just watched it. Browny is a classic.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 10, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
With Beams out with a ACL rupture do you think vossy will bring in sam mayes ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 10, 2013, 07:38:25 PM
I think it will be out of 3 options,

One I think Lions will promote Bartlett from Rookie list - bartlett has really been outstanding in seconds and deserves a chance after injury wrecked seasons. Remember he was our first pick in the 2009 draft.

then one of Mayes, Polec or Bartlett will get a go.  Think it may involve Zorko returning to mids and playing the other at HF.

My thoughts only.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Windigo on April 11, 2013, 09:54:45 AM
When Black comes back what will the mids be like?

Surely Moloney will be affected given they play similar styles...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 11, 2013, 11:23:56 AM
Windi

Vossi has made it clear that Black will be managed this year and use of the substitute will assist in this regard.  So i suspect will have little difference to Moloney.  (Moloney could develop into one of our smarter recruiting moves)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 11, 2013, 08:02:27 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/season/team-announcement (http://www.lions.com.au/season/team-announcement)

Here is the team for this week. Mayes to make his debut, but Karnezis has been dropped. Polec replaces Beams.

McKeever in + Lester out = Tanking  ??? Just stupid
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 11, 2013, 08:05:38 PM
Like the inclusions of Polec and Mayes. one of them will be handed the vest. McKeever probably comes in to add height to our back line although lester is still a healthy 190 but i think mckeever is pushing the 2m area. Lester did well last week but struggled with a taller opponent
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 11, 2013, 08:26:01 PM
 Interesting that Polkinghorne has still maintained his position.

Do not think Karnezis has been given a fair go so hopefully he tones it up in the 2's and warrants early recall.

Mayes deserved promotion and has been one of the better performed mid fielders in 2's along with Bartlett,  Bartlett still on Rookie list but I would promote him to replace Beams when able. Mayes will wear the No 32 and lets hope he serves it up to the suns similar to one of the Lions previous 32 wearers Shaun Hart now the Suns reserves coast.

Polec has also been a stand out performer in the 2's and will be used similar to Karnezis but expect him to wear the vest.

McKeever obviously brought in for the extra height 197cms v 191cms for Lester but is really only keeping the seat warm till goose returns. 

Yeo is another on shaky ground and hopefully lifts game this week.

This Q clash is starting to get the feel of a real Local Derby at last with the Suns vastly improved.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 11, 2013, 08:33:15 PM
Polkinghorne is Vossies love child. Don't think he will ever got dropped ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Dudge on April 11, 2013, 08:37:48 PM
With the vest last week, and being dropped this week, where is Karnizie's standing in the Lions makeup? (confused)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 11, 2013, 09:14:58 PM
With the vest last week, and being dropped this week, where is Karnizie's standing in the Lions makeup? (confused)
Me too Dudge - Has not been given a fair go in my opinion,  Hoping as I said he makes a very strong case for recall in 2's.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Dudge on April 11, 2013, 09:27:47 PM
But even a really good show in the 2s Ringo, does that mean he gets another shot,considering vest- dropped. I could understand 3/4 bad games, but a great preseason, and now dropped so early. Is it a warning, or he's not rated?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 11, 2013, 09:53:24 PM
But even a really good show in the 2s Ringo, does that mean he gets another shot,considering vest- dropped. I could understand 3/4 bad games, but a great preseason, and now dropped so early. Is it a warning, or he's not rated?
Not sure Dudge - He had a problem with endurance last year but his season in 2's seemed to rectify that. Seems to be training ok so hard to put a finger on what the problem is with the coach. Was hoping he would have got a reprieve with the injury to Beams. Disposal at times is an issue with him but he is not alone in that regard.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 12, 2013, 01:52:09 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-12/guess-whos-on-zorkos-back (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-12/guess-whos-on-zorkos-back)

lol, McKenna's and idiot
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 12, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
If that does not fire Zorks up nothing will
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on April 14, 2013, 03:21:56 AM
So by the look of the board, it did not fire Zorko up. I missed the games tonight. Went to see someone at the comedy festival, recorded the Carlton game and watched that when I got home. What exactly went down tonight? It looked to be a close finish
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2013, 10:14:52 AM
Looks like the start of a really Derby warfare which will be good for the game in Qld.  Already talking about next clash on 6th July.

There was a bit of feeling from both sides which will continue the rivalry in years to come.

Overall game was sloppy due to the ground conditions and my Thoughts on the Game

1. We were the better team for 75% of the game but again for the third week running wasteful in front of goal.  Should have game put to be in 3rd quarter but instead allowed GC back in the game.  Conditions did not help though.

2. Our defence needs tightening up.  The number of time Matera was left free with space should not have happened.  Think Golby was on him but bit hard to see.

3. Brown is slowly working back into the season and had his best game in a number of years - Set the tone with the first goal from a difficult angle.  nay loose some cash with his wrestle with Warnock.

4. Zorko was well held by Wilkinson and lashed out with an elbow to the head that may be looked at by the MRP.  Starting to show his frustrations on the field.

5. Rich was held to just 2 possessions in first quarter by Karmichael Hunt but moved to HB in 2nd qurater in an endeavour to shake tag and started to find it more resulting in his best game for the year.

6. Raines kept Ablett to 27 possessions and continues to shine as a tagger. Despite the 27 possessions Abletts Disposal efficiency was way down 64% due to Raines influence.

7. Hanley continues to shine in his running roles and must have been close to winning the McRae Medal which went to Brown.

8. Sam Mayes shows he is ready for AFL football and may be the rising star nomination this week. Handy downgrade option in 2 weeks with a F/M Dpp.

9. Still need to improve a lot if we are to seriously challenge for Top 8 position.

Reddan may also be cited by the MRP for a shoulder to Abletts head.  Do not think anything in it but you never know.

Injuries to Polec and Martin will need to be monitored this week with both doubtful imo.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 14, 2013, 11:23:47 AM
A shame Polec got injured considering he was given his first chance in the team this year. How was he looking before the injury?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2013, 11:30:04 AM
Was an ankle CF so not sure till later in week as scans will probably be done tomorrow.  By the way as a Soth Aussie  Sam Mayes was very impressive in first outing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 14, 2013, 11:44:58 AM
It's a shame Zorko is going so badly   :( 
What happened to Martin?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2013, 12:00:26 PM
It's a shame Zorko is going so badly   :( 
What happened to Martin?
He had ice on ankle as well but do not think it is as bad as Polecs.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Colliwobblers on April 14, 2013, 12:45:19 PM
Zorko hates GCS, told me so in person at a clinic he was doing with cornhole for the kids i coach. He genuinely hates them, and it was obvious he just wanted to hurt every player he came near in a suns guernsey last night. Don't think his head was in the right place and was a slightly undisciplined efferort for a player who is and should be a genuine leader.

agree with Ringo however his frustrations may have contributed also, and wilkinson did do a good job on him, he should not get cited for that elbow did not connect and browns effort was more ferocious than that and off the ball to boot.

Lions look to be slowly warming up, I will probably use zorko to get burger in but if not doing that i would be happy to continue with him, he is a great player and i am not expecting much stronger opponents to bother putting a tag on zorko.

If they do, well it proves how good he is, but does little for his fantasy future.

Reckon the best part of the game for Lions people would be Browns effort, everything else is coming along nicely with burger back and a functioning fwd line the Lions can compete.

Hanley - how good....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 14, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
Hanley is looking like the best SuperCoach pick of the season for my team!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Windigo on April 14, 2013, 01:02:23 PM
Black back will be a huge boost.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 14, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
will be a massive for the lions. but not so rockliff owners in fantasy. vossy only took 3 weeks to chuck him up forward
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2013, 07:52:14 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-04-15/zorko-and-redden-cleared

In good news from the MRP both Reddan and Zorko have been cleared of incidents

and in a blow to our chances against North Melbourne Maguire looks set to be ruled out for another 3 weeks. Need to find some tall to match up on Petrie, Hansen and Tarrant. Yeo was found wanting against Suns.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on April 15, 2013, 08:08:33 PM
Yeo looked a bit out of it especially in the last quarter, I thought Yeo was the one that was minding Matera. His miss kick late in the last quarter nearly lost them the game. Does he get dropped this week Ringo if so who comes in?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2013, 08:18:39 PM
Yeo looked a bit out of it especially in the last quarter, I thought Yeo was the one that was minding Matera. His miss kick late in the last quarter nearly lost them the game. Does he get dropped this week Ringo if so who comes in?
The onl2 options to come in as I see it are Docherty or Harwood but both are 184cms 5cms shorter then Yeo.
Karnezis at 191cm may be called to play HB though. However with serious injuries to Wrigley and Wearden maybe Michael or Bourke may get promoted.  Both play as defenders and both are 195cm plus. Prefer Michael to be promoted myself as he gives a Ruck alternative as well.

Another option is McKeever back and bring in Karnezis or Bartlett. McKeever is 190cm but his disposal at times is a real worry.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 15, 2013, 09:07:57 PM
Yeah I think McKeever will most likely play as the third tall defender. Does Michael play much defence Ringo? From what I have read he plays mainly ruck.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2013, 09:23:36 PM
Yeah I think McKeever will most likely play as the third tall defender. Does Michael play much defence Ringo? From what I have read he plays mainly ruck.
Has been used as a Tall defender in the NEAFL whilst Longer has been rucking.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 15, 2013, 09:52:53 PM
Voss has to put mckeever in the backs. and bring lester, harwood or Docherty in for elliott yeo
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Voss has to put mckeever in the backs. and bring lester, harwood or Docherty in for elliott yeo
Yes Strikes agree but just working out how to cover Norths 3 Talls without maguire.  Mckeever if moved back will take one and then Merret and Patful the others. Agree with suggested changes for Yeo but who moves forward to take McKeevers place. Does Karnezis get a recall. Will be interesting selections this week
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 16, 2013, 07:31:58 AM
Yeah I think McKeever will most likely play as the third tall defender. Does Michael play much defence Ringo? From what I have read he plays mainly ruck.
Has been used as a Tall defender in the NEAFL whilst Longer has been rucking.
I read somewhere that he plays defence, but during the NAB I think he played forward, where he kicked a goal.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 16, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
Yeah I think McKeever will most likely play as the third tall defender. Does Michael play much defence Ringo? From what I have read he plays mainly ruck.
Has been used as a Tall defender in the NEAFL whilst Longer has been rucking.
I read somewhere that he plays defence, but during the NAB I think he played forward, where he kicked a goal.
He kicked a goal as resting ruckman - Brisbane used the Longer/Michael Ruck for NAB cup,  Hopefully a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 16, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Yeah I think McKeever will most likely play as the third tall defender. Does Michael play much defence Ringo? From what I have read he plays mainly ruck.
Has been used as a Tall defender in the NEAFL whilst Longer has been rucking.
I read somewhere that he plays defence, but during the NAB I think he played forward, where he kicked a goal.
He kicked a goal as resting ruckman - Brisbane used the Longer/Michael Ruck for NAB cup,  Hopefully a sign of things to come.
Also we need to remember that Michael is on the rookie list. So may have to wait till next year for him to get a game. I think that he should get promoted towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 18, 2013, 06:48:27 PM
Docherty has been named at half back -- LOCK him in your fantasy teams  ;) Paparone has been named on extended bench, so hopefully he should make his debut  :D :D

Link to team (http://www.lions.com.au/season/team-announcement)

Jack Redden is named in the pocket  :o this years Tom Rockliff?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 18, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
don't take notice of where they are named. Mayes will probably go into the forwards and redden mids and is quite possible that harwood comes in and docherty misses all together
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 18, 2013, 07:21:46 PM
Suspect the 3 to miss will be Paprone, Harwood and Crisp.

When Voss was interviewed he mentioned Docherty will get his first game and Paporone named on extended bench.

Suspect Karnezis will go to the Pocket and be the loose man in defence to counter Norths Talls. Docherty will take Yeos place,  We need Mayes run and kick off halfback like we seen last week.

Personally do not like the structure as announced so expect some changes.  No way will McGrath play FB unless Voss is countering Norths Talls with small crumbing defenders Pretty dangerous though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 19, 2013, 04:35:33 PM
Paparone and Docherty to debut. Excited to see them play!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 19, 2013, 05:00:31 PM
Paparone and Docherty to debut. Excited to see them play!
Yeah.

Paparone for sub?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 19, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Paparone and Docherty to debut. Excited to see them play!
Yeah.

Paparone for sub?

got his name all over it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 19, 2013, 06:45:53 PM
I think it is between Paporone or Harwood myself.

Leaning towards Harwood myself given the way the team is structured.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Cicjose on April 20, 2013, 02:39:51 AM
surely the gun in Docherty is the sub or is that something only Hinkley does?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 20, 2013, 04:54:05 AM
surely the gun in Docherty is the sub or is that something only Hinkley does?
What about the gun in Paparone?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 20, 2013, 10:27:56 AM
Staker and Black are playing in reserves games today.  Wish them both well as we need their experience back.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Cicjose on April 20, 2013, 06:31:59 PM
Hanley rumoured to be out for tomorrows game according to Jock Reynolds Facebook
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 20, 2013, 06:59:44 PM
Hanley rumoured to be out for tomorrows game according to Jock Reynolds Facebook
Any reason why??
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 21, 2013, 02:38:39 PM
Hanley rumoured to be out for tomorrows game according to Jock Reynolds Facebook
Any reason why??

He's not out, what idiot made that up ?

Paparone is sub.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 23, 2013, 08:57:24 PM
my prediction of the team this weekend

Adcock - Merrett - Harwood
Docherty - Patful - Golby
Mayes - Rich - Redden
Paparone - Cornelious - Zorko
Green - Brown - Bewick
Berger - Rockliff - Moloney

Polkinghorne - Martin - Raines

Black

Massive pressure on Green and Martin imo. I think luey couldn't do the entire game yet hence my thought of martin. banfield will be knocking on the door so green will need to lift.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 24, 2013, 05:35:19 AM
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-23/rookies-in-state-squad (http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-23/rookies-in-state-squad)

Sammy Michael surely should get the upgrade at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 24, 2013, 05:37:48 AM
my prediction of the team this weekend

Adcock - Merrett - Harwood
Docherty - Patful - Golby
Mayes - Rich - Redden
Paparone - Cornelious - Zorko
Green - Brown - Bewick
Berger - Rockliff - Moloney

Polkinghorne - Martin - Raines

Black

Massive pressure on Green and Martin imo. I think luey couldn't do the entire game yet hence my thought of martin. banfield will be knocking on the door so green will need to lift.
I think Black will have another game in the reserves before he plays a senior game. Other than that I think it's a pretty good prediction.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 24, 2013, 06:25:26 AM
my prediction of the team this weekend

Adcock - Merrett - Harwood
Docherty - Patful - Golby
Mayes - Rich - Redden
Paparone - Cornelious - Zorko
Green - Brown - Bewick
Berger - Rockliff - Moloney

Polkinghorne - Martin - Raines

Black

Massive pressure on Green and Martin imo. I think luey couldn't do the entire game yet hence my thought of martin. banfield will be knocking on the door so green will need to lift.
I think Black will have another game in the reserves before he plays a senior game. Other than that I think it's a pretty good prediction.

hoping with out sounding arrogant that we have a decent lead by 3qt and sneak blacky on for the last quarter
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 24, 2013, 07:29:12 AM
my prediction of the team this weekend

Adcock - Merrett - Harwood
Docherty - Patful - Golby
Mayes - Rich - Redden
Paparone - Cornelious - Zorko
Green - Brown - Bewick
Berger - Rockliff - Moloney

Polkinghorne - Martin - Raines

Black

Massive pressure on Green and Martin imo. I think luey couldn't do the entire game yet hence my thought of martin. banfield will be knocking on the door so green will need to lift.
I think Black will have another game in the reserves before he plays a senior game. Other than that I think it's a pretty good prediction.

hoping with out sounding arrogant that we have a decent lead by 3qt and sneak blacky on for the last quarter
I see the point you are making and I agree with you, but I don't think they'll do it this game, even though it is against Melbourne. I think Black will return next round
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 24, 2013, 07:38:03 AM
Assuming you have Cornelius replacing McGrath,  I would have been tempted to replace McGrath with Banfield to give us the extra small,  My Opinion though. Jesse O'Brien may be another alternative to come in.

We still have not promoted a rookie to replace Beams so the pressure is really on Sam Michael, Jordan Bourke and Nick Hayes to continue to perform.  All three are shining in reserves so will be a hard decision on who to promote.

Personally would like to see Black given another game in reserves with Stakes.  Like you without being arrogant we play Melbourne at home this week so no need to rush them.

If we lose to Melbourne this week Vossie will be under immense pressure.  Hopefully Moloneys 150th game will be the catalyst.  Hoping to get to the game this weekend.



Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 24, 2013, 03:25:37 PM
I think I read Vossy saying that Black will be given another week in the reserves and Staker another 2-3.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 24, 2013, 03:53:33 PM
Vossy confirmed in his press conference that Blackie will be playing reserves this week in Mackay. Been trying to find out who is on the plane to Mackay as that will give an indication of ins.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 25, 2013, 12:55:15 AM
Vossy confirmed in his press conference that Blackie will be playing reserves this week in Mackay. Been trying to find out who is on the plane to Mackay as that will give an indication of ins.
Will this change now that Rich is out??

Dees are on a roll of winning 1 quarter/game in a row!!!!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 25, 2013, 04:31:57 AM
Vossy confirmed in his press conference that Blackie will be playing reserves this week in Mackay. Been trying to find out who is on the plane to Mackay as that will give an indication of ins.
Will this change now that Rich is out??

Dees are on a roll of winning 1 quarter/game in a row!!!!!
I don't think that will change. We have Rocky, Redden, Moloney and Zorko running through the mids and Raines tagging.

Heres a link. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-24/rich-facing-two-months-out (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-24/rich-facing-two-months-out)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 25, 2013, 08:20:21 AM
Suspect Polkinghorne may now start as he had an outstanding game in the reserves last week through the mid field.

Our mid field depth is sorely being tested now with Beams, Rich, Polec Bartlett all having long term injuries and with Black and O'Brien just returning from injury.

With Rich out it will place further pressure on Rocky and Zorko who will now attract the tags.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 25, 2013, 09:10:34 AM
Rocky will probably be targeted now by the taggers. or maybe Pearce Hanley. losing rich and hanley in the one week hurts the midfield. zorko will probably play pure mid.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 25, 2013, 10:52:49 AM
Ouch that will really hurt losing Rich. Do you reckon it will make Mayes' JS any better? I don't really know what position he has been playing in, but if Zorko has to move into the guys, does Mayes move and take his place?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 25, 2013, 11:08:54 AM
Mayes has been playing mainly on the wing so with Rich's injury suspect will improve Job security till at least his return.  Had reservations on Mayes JS as he may have been in the mix to make way for Staker but can see him keeping position now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 26, 2013, 05:24:34 AM
Reserves beat GC in Macky yesterday 111 to 79. Lisle kicked 8 goals, should be be considered for the seniors?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 26, 2013, 08:06:55 AM
Reserves beat GC in Macky yesterday 111 to 79. Lisle kicked 8 goals, should be be considered for the seniors?
Lisle was best on ground and will be keeping the pressure on Cornelius, Paporone and co. Also expect to see Black back in the Seniors next week played majority of game and was the Lions next best player after Lisle.  Played majority of game as well and was saying to Voss I am ready.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 26, 2013, 04:28:59 PM
Brisbanes final team from Sunday

B: J. Adcock, D. Merrett, E. Yeo
HB: J. Patfull, J. Clarke, M. Golby
C: J. Polkinghorne, B. Moloney, S. Mayes
HF: M. Paparone, J. Brown, R. Bewick
F: J. Green, A. Cornelius, D. Zorko
FOLL: M. Leuenberger, A. Raines, J. Redden
INT: S. Docherty, B. Longer, A. McGrath, T. Rockliff
EMER: P. Karnezis, R. Lester, J. Crisp

Suspect McGrath may be sub,

Probably the best team we could put out given our injury situation.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 26, 2013, 04:43:00 PM
Longer could be sub
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 26, 2013, 11:12:06 PM
Longer could be sub

I would make it McGrath. I think it would suit him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 29, 2013, 07:50:07 AM
Went to the game yesterday so a couple of observations from my part. Game was very sloppy with numerous turnovers and errors. If we were playing a top team would have been beaten by at least 30 points.

1. Our accuracy in front of goal is still hurting us game should have been put away well before half time if we were more accurate, 37 scoring shots to 24 and only winning by 28 tells the story.
2. We are still too slow covering break outs need some more nimbleness across half back line to stop the flow. Demons were finding easy marks from HB to HF.
3. Some one has to really step up and take control of the backline and assist the youngsters,  Quite a few times Justin Clarke was looking for a match up at ball ups and throw ins.
4. Brent Moloney continues to shine around the clearances and Blackie will benefit from this when he returns
5. Really missed the run and carry of Hanley as a result of suspension.
6. Mayes continues to show he is ready and up to Senior football.
7. Polkinghorne played his best game for the Lions.
8. Liked the initial set up of Longer Rucking with Berger at FF got us off to a great start,
9. Umpiring was crap but what else can you say when McBurney is one of the officials.
10. Zorko showed a welcome return to form.
11.Need to maintain composure and concentration for full game.  Allowing Melbourme the last three goals should not be on from a team hoping to finish top 8.
12. We are very slow at seeing options and taking advantage.  On numerous occasions there were players free but by the time they were seen and ball delivered a contest ensued rather than an uncontested mark. This was obvious from my position in the upper grandstand.

Couple of incidents may be looked at by the MRP and Polks was reported for tripping in first quarter.

Next 8 weeks will decide our fortunes and also Vossies future and we will have to improve 100% if we are to win at least half of these,

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 29, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
We played bad but he umpiring was just shocking in that game. Couldn't believe some of the decision that went Melbourne's way. Do the umpires have something against us?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 29, 2013, 03:58:07 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-29/mrp-full-statement-round-five

Great news for Lions Polkinghorne and Longer can avoid suspension with early plea and Zorko was cleared.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on April 29, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
How's Hanley going Ringo really need him to play this week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 29, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
Me to - No mention made of him in this weeks recovery report so I assume  he is fit and ready for selection after suspension.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on April 29, 2013, 04:48:33 PM
He had a bit of knock the game he got suspended in right? Week off probably did him some good in the end to get fit and ready to go for this weekend
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on April 29, 2013, 04:59:35 PM
Yeah something to do with his knee I think it was.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 29, 2013, 07:24:08 PM
Had the ice pack on his knee when he was replaced late.  Was going to have to face a fitness test to play last week but as you say extra week probably freshened him nicely.  Will be keeping an eye out though,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 29, 2013, 08:20:10 PM
Any thoughts of team selection changes this week ?

I think Simon sounded fairly confident he'll line up this week and i think hanley will as well. be surprising if those 2 get up. I like playing two ruckmen, luey should he could stand well in the forward line
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 30, 2013, 07:39:14 AM
Any thoughts of team selection changes this week ?

I think Simon sounded fairly confident he'll line up this week and i think hanley will as well. be surprising if those 2 get up. I like playing two ruckmen, luey should he could stand well in the forward line
Hanley will return  but Vossie did not sound too sure on Simon.  Intimated he wanted to give a full game in reserves first but who knows, Hanley will probably replace Clarke.  If Black is named I would expect him to get the red vest and he would possibly replace Paporone with Polkinghorne moving forward.

Lisle may come into contention to replace Cornelius as well, 

As you say Strikes the Berger/Longer flower Forward combination looked good and would like to see that continue to develop as it will be similar to Cox/Nat for the next 4/5 years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 02, 2013, 07:00:33 PM
Docherty out WTF. Voss has given up on this season, and is tanking. If he is coach next year, the suns will be my team. I also hope Cornelius is dropped and Lisle plays forward. He is better than Cornelius.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 02, 2013, 07:04:46 PM
Hanley had to come in for someone. Doch was the victim. he'll get his chance after we get spanked by 60+ on sunday
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 02, 2013, 07:20:15 PM
Hanley had to come in for someone. Doch was the victim. he'll get his chance after we get spanked by 60+ on sunday
I guess.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on May 02, 2013, 07:24:46 PM
I am surprised they didn't play Doch as the sub again at the very least or named emergency. He was straight out omitted which leaves me scratching my head.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on May 02, 2013, 09:39:54 PM
most teams wont want to use the same player as a sub too often consecutively (like NM dropping liam anthony) you risk a loss of match fitness.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 03, 2013, 08:30:30 AM
Agree with Zip here Docherty was only playing 2nd game and if being thought of sub better to go back to reserves to retain match fitness especially with young bodies.  Suspect Clarke, Yeo and Docherty will be rotated trhough this position for most of the season.

my thoughts are that Lester and Crisp along with one of Paporone/Lisle will miss out on team with Paporone/Lisle sub. May be wrong.

Pleased to see we are sticking with the Berger/Longer duo resting forawrd.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: AFEV on May 05, 2013, 08:57:42 AM
Article (http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-enter-the-hunt-for-hawthorn-superstar-lance-franklin/story-e6frg1zc-1226635262800).

Brisbane after Buddy..Seems like the list of clubs chasing him grows every few weeks. What do Brisbane supporters think about this?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 05, 2013, 09:20:41 AM
Interesting one Sid

Do not know whether I like the idea or not. Big question is how many years has Brown got left and I think it is right that we are looking for an alternative as despite promising signs from some forwards no one really standing out as the obvious replacement. We are light on for Power forwards so Franklin will fit the bill.

Plays a similar style to Brown and as article says would have 4/5 years left in him. Would welcome him but not at the expense of trading any draft picks or promising youngsters.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 05, 2013, 11:10:44 AM
I couldn't see him coming to brisbane. i think it's either hawthorn or WA for him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 05, 2013, 10:21:03 PM
pathetic effort wise again in the 1st quarter. cornellious will feel the wrath of a poor game. expecting lisle to come in. think longer may stay in to help berger against cox and nic nat. black will come in for probably paparone. not sure who impressed in reserves this week but i would think Lisle, Black and goose if fit will play next week
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on May 05, 2013, 10:58:32 PM
Saw the boys at Sydney airport tonight after the game and a couple were limping. First quarter killed them.

I dont think they will go after Buddy as he will either go to GWS or Freo if he leaves the Hawks.

ps couldnt believe how tall Burger is, I didnt even come up to his shoulder
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 06, 2013, 07:17:20 AM
Yes Tabs Berger is a tall man - Longer not that much shorter either.  Would really like to see these 2 develop into a Cox/Nat duo.

Most clubs usually have a few players limping after games due to the amount of running and body contact that ocurrs in a game.

@strikes91 agree that Cornelius will wear the wrath. Black will come in after playing in reserves but Staker is probably 2 weeks away.
The issue is the standard in the NEAFL as shown by Brisbanes best Players ranked in order by NEAFL Stats - Docherty (BOG), Sam Michael (must be knocking at promotion from Rookie List), Ryan Harwood, Richard Newell, (also on Rookie List) Jack Crisp, Jordan Lisle. So not a lot who have not been tried.
Would really like to see Voss settle on a side and stop the revolving door (even if it means getting well beaten) to allow players to establish themselves. Based on previous selections Lester will probably be dropped this week.

Game yesterday showed we can be competitive one on one but the class between a top 4 side showed in that the third player to the one on one contests was a Swan player and this where we really have to improve along with our disposal efficiency.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 10, 2013, 01:12:22 PM
Can not believe we did not persevere with the Dual Ruck combo of Berger/Longer for another couple of weeks especially coming up against Cox/Nat this week. But given some of the selections this year nothing surprises.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 10, 2013, 04:10:57 PM
I am not very keen to see voss get walked. he's killing careers at the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 11, 2013, 01:16:37 PM
Blacks sub. Not really surprising
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 11, 2013, 03:22:48 PM
Great to see Blacky getting a run  :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 11, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
Will write my thoughts on the game when I cool down a little after so so umpiring.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 11, 2013, 05:22:07 PM
Agree, horrible officiating.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 15, 2013, 08:25:11 AM
With Voss saying Stakes is a possibility play this weekend who makes way:

Clarke has been used as a Tall defender taking 2nd tall forward - Played on Natanui and Cox as resting forwards last week.  So team structure may dictate he stays unless Maguire is fit.
Mayes - Playing across half back line where Staker may slot in.
Lester - Was subbed last week and another on HB line.
Yeo - Solid but not outstanding
or do we use his 196cm as a forward maybe replacing Bewick.

Think the decision may be between Lester and Yeo although who knows with match committee selections these days,

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 15, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
who will Raines get this week?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 15, 2013, 02:50:41 PM
who will Raines get this week?
At a guess KB I would say Watson.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Holz on May 15, 2013, 03:05:06 PM
With Voss saying Stakes is a possibility play this weekend who makes way:

Clarke has been used as a Tall defender taking 2nd tall forward - Played on Natanui and Cox as resting forwards last week.  So team structure may dictate he stays unless Maguire is fit.
Mayes - Playing across half back line where Staker may slot in.
Lester - Was subbed last week and another on HB line.
Yeo - Solid but not outstanding
or do we use his 196cm as a forward maybe replacing Bewick.

Think the decision may be between Lester and Yeo although who knows with match committee selections these days,

surely docherty has to come back in at some satge right?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 15, 2013, 08:40:13 PM
With Voss saying Stakes is a possibility play this weekend who makes way:

Clarke has been used as a Tall defender taking 2nd tall forward - Played on Natanui and Cox as resting forwards last week.  So team structure may dictate he stays unless Maguire is fit.
Mayes - Playing across half back line where Staker may slot in.
Lester - Was subbed last week and another on HB line.
Yeo - Solid but not outstanding
or do we use his 196cm as a forward maybe replacing Bewick.

Think the decision may be between Lester and Yeo although who knows with match committee selections these days,

anything on lester having a groin injury anywhere ? he had ice on it when he got subbed
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 15, 2013, 08:40:58 PM
With Voss saying Stakes is a possibility play this weekend who makes way:

Clarke has been used as a Tall defender taking 2nd tall forward - Played on Natanui and Cox as resting forwards last week.  So team structure may dictate he stays unless Maguire is fit.
Mayes - Playing across half back line where Staker may slot in.
Lester - Was subbed last week and another on HB line.
Yeo - Solid but not outstanding
or do we use his 196cm as a forward maybe replacing Bewick.

Think the decision may be between Lester and Yeo although who knows with match committee selections these days,

surely docherty has to come back in at some satge right?

Yeo is in his way
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 16, 2013, 07:01:11 AM
Seen Lester with ice on it at the ground Strikes but nothing official coming down the club in the injury update so suspect may have been precautionary and maybe even the reason he was subbed out unexpectedly. Like most probably carrying a niggle or 2.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 16, 2013, 08:23:01 PM
Must say I am a bit surprised with dropping of Green for Staker.  Stakers return is welcomed but I think we are losing a bit of pace and forward pressure by dropping Green.

Hope not another selection blunder,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 16, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Why is Green dropped? His forward pressure is what we need. Good to see Stakes back though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 17, 2013, 05:33:25 AM
Very see to see Green out, I really like watching him play :( Staker will be sub, right? I can't see who else will be.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 17, 2013, 07:09:00 AM
Some of the Match Selections I think are not helping Voss's cause.  We need pace to match the Dons but with the dropping of Green we have lost one of our best in this regard.

Will be interesting to see who sub is will not be Raines so it will be from Mayes, Bewick or Staker. Will depend how Voss wants to use Staker and if he wants to throw him in from the start due to our slow starts on the road suspect Mayes may get the vest as Staker will be used back.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 17, 2013, 07:19:09 AM
Yes agree, Mayes will most likely to see the green vest.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 17, 2013, 02:58:02 PM
Voss better not give Mayes the vest :P

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-17/rival-clubs-circle-uncontracted-lion-cubs (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-17/rival-clubs-circle-uncontracted-lion-cubs)

I'd hate to see any of these guys leave, but at least one of them will iom.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 17, 2013, 03:38:08 PM
Just read the article myself and agree that one may leave.  Suspect it may be Karnezis who wanted to leave last year.

Would like to retain both Polec and Longer.  Why we did not persevere with a Longer/Berger combo got no idea.  Worked a treat although against Melbourne and then Longer dropped next week.

If Voss continues his revolving door selections then we will loose some of these talented youngsters.

Would prefer to spend the money on these youngsters rather than chase Franklin or other free agents.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 17, 2013, 06:58:01 PM
Mayes should really start as sub was quite last week that's who I'm tipping

Think it's pretty pointless starting Staker as sub makes more sense to sub him off after having a decent run

But who knows its Voss after all
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 17, 2013, 10:57:13 PM
the young fellas have to wait around, voss will be gone at seasons end
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: AFEV on May 17, 2013, 11:06:08 PM
the young fellas have to wait around, voss will be gone at seasons end
Might not have to wait until the end of the season the way things are going...Don't understand the amount of weekly changes, never going to win with an unsettled team. :-\
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 18, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
Mayes should really start as sub was quite last week that's who I'm tipping

Think it's pretty pointless starting Staker as sub makes more sense to sub him off after having a decent run

But who knows its Voss after all

Winner
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 18, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
Mayes should really start as sub was quite last week that's who I'm tipping

Think it's pretty pointless starting Staker as sub makes more sense to sub him off after having a decent run

But who knows its Voss after all

Winner

lol it was pretty obvious

anyway couldn't believe todays result. I didn't stand us a chance but wow. only downside is will be losing clarke and probably merrett. Think staker will go down back with goose hopefully fit. green, docherty or karny to try and sneak in
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 19, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
My thoughts on the match:

With Brisbane rank outsiders did we go in with little to lose attitude and try and redeem ourselves in Melbourne. It was a great match with 18 lead changes and no more than a handful of points separating the teams all day.

We started aggressively possibly walking a fine line which will result in suspension to Clarke and possibly Merrett. We kept this aggression up and despite being beaten in the clearances and other important stats we won the tackle count.

Stats from the match Essendon listed first
Disposals 398 - 325
Kicks 222 - 216
Handballs 176 - 109
Freekicks 14 - 11
Clearances 46 - 31
Inside 50's 61 - 39
Contested Possessions 146 - 120
Tackles 49 - 72
Hitouts 42 - 45

Looking at those stats one wonders how Brisbane won the game but it is attribute to the pressure we exerted with tackling that upset the Bombers run. Bewick and Raines were outstanding in restricting Hibberd and Stanton.

One of the talking points will be the Brown Mark and the video review.  We have seen so many instances of the video review coming back inconclusive so why are we persisting until we can better camera angles.

Brisbane's midfield looks so much more composed with Black in there with 16 possesions in just over a half of football. We need 3/4 game from Black against the blues on Saturday night.

Staker is back and will be a valuable swingman back or forward.

Write J Brown off at your own peril.  Despite age still showing he has it.

Moloney has added a fair bit to the midfield as well.

Jack Reddan showed a welcome return to form with 22 disposals, running with Watson and limiting his usual efficiency, 

Should Merrett and Clarke be suspended we have a few options:
Maguire if fit will come back (played in yesterdays reserves match)
Docherty may come in to replace Clarke.
I would like to see this move move Staker back and bring Longer back in with the Berger Longer combo to combat Kreuzer and Warnock.

Any a great win by the boys against all expectations and we need to keep it going this week against the Blues and not go backwards,

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 19, 2013, 02:02:00 PM
Great win and I think we will be a decent chance to take down the Blues at the Gabba next week. Black was amazing in that first quarter, set everything up, and I think he will make a great foil for Moloney to do a lot of hard clearance work. Any word on how Rich is progressing? How much longer is he meant to be out for? Another month or so?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 19, 2013, 02:14:34 PM
Great win and I think we will be a decent chance to take down the Blues at the Gabba next week. Black was amazing in that first quarter, set everything up, and I think he will make a great foil for Moloney to do a lot of hard clearance work. Any word on how Rich is progressing? How much longer is he meant to be out for? Another month or so?
Was originally listed as 8 weeks but talk is he may be back sooner
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 20, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
Clarke offered a week and Merrett three for their incidents on the weekend. Do people agree with this? I think Merrett is a bit stiff there.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 20, 2013, 04:35:07 PM
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Essendon Football Club, the incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), high impact (three points) and high contact (two points)

Did not think there was any high contact at all so may be grounds to appeal.  But if appeal fails will go out to 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 20, 2013, 04:36:43 PM
I get the negligent conduct for slinging and high impact for him being concussed, but is tackling someone and having their head hit the turf considered high contact? I don't think it should.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 20, 2013, 04:47:03 PM
Very harsh on Merrett. He didnt deserve that long.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2013, 04:53:54 PM
Slinging someone and having there head hit the ground is still high contact and he did it with force to
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 20, 2013, 04:55:44 PM
He does have 93 carry over points as well so I guess that puts it up to 3 weeks instead of 2.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 20, 2013, 05:39:51 PM
Yeah Merrett getting 3 weeks is a joke.
If tackling someone and their head hits the ground is considered as high contact how the hell did Monfries not get suspended for his tackle on Priddis a few weeks ago?

Also how did the Kommer taking Clarke out incident not even get looked at Kommer should have gone for that.

I also think Clarke is extremely lucky and should take his week no questions asked because he should have got more.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
Was the Monfries tackle a sling tackle?

That's why Merrett is getting suspended because its a sling tackle don't you remember the big fuss about them?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on May 20, 2013, 05:43:58 PM
anyone got footage for the merrett incident?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 20, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
Was the Monfries tackle a sling tackle?

That's why Merrett is getting suspended because its a sling tackle don't you remember the big fuss about them?

Didn't say anything about it being a sling tackle I said if they are calling it high contact for his head hitting the ground causing concussion then what is the difference between the 2 incidents?
Both players heads hit the ground causing them to be concussed.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
But the sling tackle action caused his head to hit the turf which is why it was outlawed
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 20, 2013, 06:00:47 PM
But the sling tackle action caused his head to hit the turf which is why it was outlawed

I'm not saying he shouldn't get done for the sling tackle that's fair enough but calling it high contact does not make one bit of sense because technically it's not high contact.Do you see what I mean?
I'm not being a smart arse I just don't think it should be classed as high contact.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 20, 2013, 06:03:47 PM
Still don't agree Merrett had control of Hurley when his head hits the ground and the force he did it in
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 20, 2013, 06:09:57 PM
But the sling tackle action caused his head to hit the turf which is why it was outlawed

I'm not saying he shouldn't get done for the sling tackle that's fair enough but calling it high contact does not make one bit of sense because technically it's not high contact.Do you see what I mean?
I'm not being a smart arse I just don't think it should be classed as high contact.


That was my point highlighting the high contact charge.

Zip here is vision of the tackle -

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-05-18/merrett-slams-hurley

Show me where the high contact is and I will accept the fiull 3 weeks.  I agree get done for the negligent coduct and the high impact head into the ground for the sling tackle but there is no high contact at all.   If the MRP are now going to deem slamming head to ground is also high contact they will have to be consistent for the rest of the year and act accordingly.

Agree Clarke is very lucky with 2 weeks although clean record reduces it to a week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on May 20, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
I think they're going with the logic for the sling tackle being illegal, because of it increasing significantly the number of head, neck injuries and oncussions

unfortunately, for merrett, a precedent has been set


'The incident was similar to a then-contentious incident two years ago when Melbourne's Jack Trengove received a three-match suspension for a tackle on Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield. The Crows midfielder, like Hurley at the weekend, had to be substituted.
Both incidents were graded identically: negligent conduct, high impact, high contact. Merrett fared worse than Trengove because he was also saddled with 93.75 carry-over points, which means he risks a four-match ban if he challenges the decision at the tribunal on Tuesday night.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jolly-cleared-merrett-offered-threeweek-ban-20130520-2jwni.html#ixzz2Tp5KYkbT '
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 20, 2013, 06:45:14 PM
So why are not all head slams that have gone to the tribunal since include a high contact if the precedent has been set.  Again inconsistency from the MRP as there have been a few since the Dangerfield incident.  They bring up things when it suits. 

Agree with Merrets suspension but just can not accept the High contact component even though they draw out the Dangerfield incident with a number of head slams not invoking tyhe high contact.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 20, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
So why are not all head slams that have gone to the tribunal since include a high contact if the precedent has been set.  Again inconsistency from the MRP as there have been a few since the Dangerfield incident.  They bring up things when it suits. 

Agree with Merrets suspension but just can not accept the High contact component even though they draw out the Dangerfield incident with a number of head slams not invoking tyhe high contact.
Yeah thats a good point there. They seen to relax on some of these rules and then every now and then an incident pops up and they suspend them to remind everyone of the rule. There is no consistency in the MRP anymore.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 20, 2013, 06:52:59 PM
So why are not all head slams that have gone to the tribunal since include a high contact if the precedent has been set.  Again inconsistency from the MRP as there have been a few since the Dangerfield incident.  They bring up things when it suits. 

Agree with Merrets suspension but just can not accept the High contact component even though they draw out the Dangerfield incident with a number of head slams not invoking tyhe high contact.
Yeah thats a good point there. They seen to relax on some of these rules and then every now and then an incident pops up and they suspend them to remind everyone of the rule. There is no consistency in the MRP anymore.

Totally agree they have no consistency anymore at all tho I question if they had any in the first place.


Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 20, 2013, 06:56:33 PM
So why are not all head slams that have gone to the tribunal since include a high contact if the precedent has been set.  Again inconsistency from the MRP as there have been a few since the Dangerfield incident.  They bring up things when it suits. 

Agree with Merrets suspension but just can not accept the High contact component even though they draw out the Dangerfield incident with a number of head slams not invoking tyhe high contact.
Yeah thats a good point there. They seen to relax on some of these rules and then every now and then an incident pops up and they suspend them to remind everyone of the rule. There is no consistency in the MRP anymore.

Totally agree they have no consistency anymore at all tho I question if they had any in the first place.
Wasn't going to that blunt Luv but agree.  Suffice to say my blood pressure rose considerably when they dragged out the Trengrove/Dangerfield incident.  But again do not want to say it the lesser teams are always on the wrong end of the MRP.  Look at this week Jolly gets an all clear, Kommer does not even get cited to name just 2.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 20, 2013, 07:02:18 PM
Jolly,Kommer and O'Brien should have all gone.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 20, 2013, 07:10:26 PM
Yeah it's a complete joke that Kelly gets weeks for his hit on Goddard and then Jolly gets off on this hit on Stokes just because he's tall or something and they think the contact high was unavoidable? Just a joke.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on May 20, 2013, 07:15:58 PM
mmmm, I'm really unsure about the jolly thing. I mean, he definitely tried to go low as to not hit him in the head, and even then it was almost as if stokes ran into him.

w.e

shower happens.

I can see the argument both ways :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 20, 2013, 07:18:31 PM
Yeah it's a complete joke that Kelly gets weeks for his hit on Goddard and then Jolly gets off on this hit on Stokes just because he's tall or something and they think the contact high was unavoidable? Just a joke.

That's who I was trying to think of Kelly.
He gets done and Kommer did the same thing but not even a mention of it at all.
Was that because it was Clarke he took out?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 20, 2013, 07:20:24 PM
You can't really say that not trying to go high is an excuse for getting off. Most of the time they aren't trying to really hurt the other player or do damage to their face.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 21, 2013, 07:01:56 AM
Found the Trengrove tackle for comparison and there is no high contact there as well.  MRP adding a charge to both. Would love to see a legal challenge on the High Contact.

Trengrove Tackle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv7ZH-NKuIs

Merrett Tackle
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-05-18/merrett-slams-hurley

Both nearly identical.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 21, 2013, 07:13:20 AM
Hmmmm well I wonder if the DVD the players get shown at the start of the year shows that as high contact. It probably does. If it doesn't they would probably challenge it?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 21, 2013, 11:49:06 AM
Both Merrett and Clarke have accepted their penalties  -
Maguire for Merrett
Docherty/Harwood for Clarke
would be my changes.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 21, 2013, 03:13:49 PM
Ringo what do you think of the odds sportsbet has you guys at Brisbane win by 1-39 @3.50 looks good
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 21, 2013, 03:19:36 PM
Sounds reasonable but will depend on Carlton Team - If Gibbs and Yarran play odds should lengthen.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 21, 2013, 05:36:45 PM
Both Merrett and Clarke have accepted their penalties  -
Maguire for Merrett
Docherty/Harwood for Clarke
would be my changes.

perhaps even lester with karny running through the guts
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 23, 2013, 03:56:25 PM
With Sam Michael being elevated to seniors list to cover for Clay Beams does this mean he will be a selection this week maybe as a replacement for Clarke.  At 199cm gives us another tall defender and he can back up Berger in the Ruck.  Do not mind this pronmotion but feel sorry for Docherty and Harwood if Michael makes the final cut.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 23, 2013, 04:01:43 PM
He's Sam Michael, he's Sam Michael! And he's here to show you why

Sammy Michael my boi. Great to see the elevation. Hope you get a run son.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 23, 2013, 05:23:12 PM
Sammmmmy!!!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 23, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
Got your wish Nails and suspect he will play whole game with Mayes or Green the sub.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 23, 2013, 05:52:09 PM
Got him in like 3-4 of my XVs teams. Keen as.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 23, 2013, 05:56:10 PM
Green the sub ticks all boxes this week. he is a brilliant sub. always has good impact
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 23, 2013, 06:06:34 PM
A little surprised we did not recall Goose.  Had a solid game in 2's last week but maybe needs a little more time in 2's
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 23, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
A little surprised we did not recall Moose.  Had a solid game in 2's last week but maybe needs a little more time in 2's
You mean Goose?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 23, 2013, 09:16:41 PM
A little surprised we did not recall Moose.  Had a solid game in 2's last week but maybe needs a little more time in 2's
You mean Goose?

Perhaps Goose would have had to play on Moose this week? (IDK who Moose is)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I865A8jYaMQ/TlJu50yHNFI/AAAAAAAAInA/Yop2EJ6lQrQ/s1600/moose%2Band%2Bgoose.jpg)

Good luck to Goose on spoiling him though!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 24, 2013, 01:43:18 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-24/golby-in-doubt-for-blues

Docherty may be a late in for Golby. Rocky's press conference when posted later may be interesting.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 25, 2013, 10:19:26 PM
What the hell is Voss doing?
He is the worst coach in the AFL at the moment.
I suppose he'll drop Hanley,Rocky and Zorko next week for not performing in the ridiculous positions he played them in.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 25, 2013, 10:29:15 PM
^^^^

your right, he has no idea. you don't play mids in the forward line. flower me what a killer. rocky is in the top 10 this year for disposals but throws him in a dead zone. putting staker up front in the 3rd was stupid, we were doing so well in the 2nd. sam michael had a dissapointing first match. i don't think he got a kick. bergers injury could be bad. longer could be back in again. we showed again we have no back up forward to brown, lisle failed again cornelious fails everytime. we need to splash every cent and try and get buddy. not going to happen but ffs we need an option. well done to bewick. had a really good game.


and btw ringo was maguire fit ? because not playing if he is was a major mistake.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 26, 2013, 05:42:37 AM
Put Big Boy up forward  :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 26, 2013, 07:58:14 AM
Could not understand the Voss moves myself. Staker needed to be played back and stay on Waite rather than Patful who was well beaten. Disagree slightly with you strikes regarding Lisle as I think our structure looks a little better with him there,  Do not know why we use him in the Ruck though better to sort out the forward structure. 

Memo to Voss Rockliff is a mid use him there. Hanley is more beneficial running off half back line and down the wing.

What is it with sides these days that they can not kick the ball between the two big sticks.  Carltons bad kicking kept Brisbane in it but Brisbane failed to capitilise with similar bad effort in 3rd quarter a 1.7 return will not cut it. If we had converted some of these simple shots we would have still been in front at 3/4 time and possibly gone on with it.

Umpiring was again questionable especially the free Garlett got on Raines.  Again at the Gabba we do not win the free kick count.  Quite a few in the back calls should have gone Brisbanes way some around the forwrad 50 but were not paid.

Overall pleased with the boys and the continued effort from last week. Would like to see a win though as a reward for effort. Won the tackle count again and this was pleasing however we seemed to drop off a few in the last quarter though.

Back it up Friday night against the Pies - Clarke should return.

Strikes not sure what the story is with Maguire played in the reserves last week but did not play in the reserves yesterday.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 26, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 26, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position

he puts players like polkinghorne and lester in there. ughh
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 26, 2013, 02:12:47 PM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position

he puts players like polkinghorne and lester in there. ughh
And Raines
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 26, 2013, 02:24:42 PM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position

he puts players like polkinghorne and lester in there. ughh
And Raines

Raines is a tagger...

He belongs in there. He's the reason Marc Murphy was bad.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 26, 2013, 02:39:58 PM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position

he puts players like polkinghorne and lester in there. ughh
And Raines

Raines is a tagger...

He belongs in there. He's the reason Marc Murphy was bad.
He's still a midfieder
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 26, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position
Throw in Danny Rich and Raines as the tagger and we will have the best midfield in the comp in a few years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 26, 2013, 07:22:05 PM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position
Throw in Danny Rich and Raines as the tagger and we will have the best midfield in the comp in a few years.
But without Black :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 26, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
Now I know it's not likely, but are we any chance of getting Buddy at all? We certainly are going to have quite a bit of cash free next season. Black retires, Brown takes a pay cut, someone else like Adcock moves to the veterans list and suddenly we do have quite a bit of free salary cap there. Really I don't see any reason why he would want to move to Fremantle over Brisbane if we offered the same amount of cash. Our game style would probably suit him better? I don't know, I'd just love to see Buddy and Brown in the same forward line for a year or two, and if we got him we would definitely make finals next year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 26, 2013, 09:05:06 PM
Isn't he from Perth hence the freo rumor
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 27, 2013, 04:53:40 AM
Isn't he from Perth hence the freo rumor
I think that's the deal.

According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Franklin)

Quote from: Part on early life:
Lance Franklin was born in Perth to parents Ursula and Lance Franklin Sr. Sport runs through the family: Lance Sr. represented his state in Field Hockey;[1] and older sister Bianca Giteau plays in the ANZ Championship for the Adelaide Thunderbirds and his cousin Jeff Garlett plays for Carlton.[2] Franklin has Indigenous Australian heritage, which he continues to acknowledge with a tattoo of a tribal elder who gave him the name 'Buddy', and Aboriginal artwork of a kangaroo on his arm and participating in indigenous youth programs.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 27, 2013, 11:10:23 AM
Voss  could have a midfield of Redden, Rockliff, Zorko, Moloney, Black

But instead plays them out of position

he puts players like polkinghorne and lester in there. ughh
And Raines

was just naming 5 of your best mids which Raines is not Voss needs to work out what to do with them all and Rich etc
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 27, 2013, 04:08:55 PM
Brown offered a week for his hit on Jamison. Don't think we are any chance of beating the Pies with him and Merrett out sadly.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 27, 2013, 05:25:34 PM
Brown offered a week for his hit on Jamison. Don't think we are any chance of beating the Pies with him and Merrett out sadly.

if it turns into a blow out we'll never get a friday night again
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 27, 2013, 05:51:37 PM
It's the AFL way to ensure we do not Strikes.

For the last 2 years we have had an Easter Thursday blockbuster but that was taken away this year and replaced by this weeks Blockbuster.

On the Brown issue I reckon I will nominate Jamison for an academy award because I fail to see how a tackle that started around and slipped up around the head would cause that much damage.  But then maybe Brownies forearms are built of steel as we now a car came of second best in a cycle collision.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 28, 2013, 11:59:48 AM
Brown and Lions challenging the ban so will watch with interest.  Must have something to show as they are risking 2 weeks by challenging.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 28, 2013, 01:47:46 PM
We will really see what we are made of this week with Rockliff missing 2 weeks and Berger 4/6

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-05-28/lions-lose-key-pair
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 28, 2013, 02:21:54 PM



<---- He better do a bulk of the rucking.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 28, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Brown's challenge unsuccessful. Jury found his strike was intentional, as charged. He'll now miss two matches, with a bye in between.

So we now lose Brown for 2 weeks as well/
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 28, 2013, 05:52:23 PM
There was intention but i still doubt the high contact. Jamison played for a free.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 28, 2013, 06:36:33 PM
how much you expecting to lose by Ringo?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 28, 2013, 06:53:57 PM
Things getting worse and worse for this Friday. On the plus side, when we verse Geelong in a few weeks, they should still be in the top 2, meaning we should get the win against them.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 31, 2013, 10:47:25 AM
This weeks changes

In:     Justin Clarke, Patrick Karnezis, Billy Longer,Ryan Harwood,Jack Crisp,Marco Paparone
Out:  Jordan Lisle  (Omitted) , Josh Green  (Omitted) , Jonathan Brown  (Suspension) , Sam Mayes  (Soreness) , Tom Rockliff  (Leg) , Matthew Leuenberger  (Hand)

Whilst some of the changes are warranted can not understand the omission of Lisle and Green.  Green was sub last week and think we need his chase and keeping ball in if we are to cause an upset. Lisle looks good although not outstanding but not getting a real chance to establish himself. Assuming Michael will now be used as back up to Longer.

Think Crisp or Harwood are the vest candidates,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on May 31, 2013, 12:16:25 PM
So I think we can just about assume whoever gets the vest for Brissy they are going to be dropped the next week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 31, 2013, 12:22:24 PM
Seems to be the pattern doesn't it vest and dropped.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Windigo on May 31, 2013, 01:24:58 PM
How is the weather now??
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 31, 2013, 01:42:30 PM
Occasional Heavy Showers come across Windi - Have probably had 2 heavy showers since lunch time.  The Gabba is a good draining ground so may only be slippery on surface.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 31, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
Does the late mail that Travis Cloke may miss with a virus help at all do you think?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 31, 2013, 03:17:30 PM
It may but we have 8 players 20 and under so will not be easy. Future of club on display with Michael, Docherty, Paparone, Longer, Lester, Clarke, Crisp and Yeo all in this category. 

Also we have Baldy as one of the umpires so will not benefit there either - Supporters are having a bet as to when the first 50 metre penalty will be invoked.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 31, 2013, 03:20:25 PM
Hahaha that bet sounds like a good one!

Yeah, will be interesting to see the young Lions have a go against a pretty good side in the Pies. I really hope it's not a blow-out. Although I have tipped the Pies by 45.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Windigo on May 31, 2013, 03:30:26 PM
I'm actually backing the Lions. If it was in Melb, I'd give them little chance.

But a big Friday night clash & an out form Pies outfit in the wet. Could be a boil over....

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 31, 2013, 04:25:48 PM
Well it looks like Cloke could well be out so you never know, but I'm not giving us too much of a chance with no Leuenberger, Brown or Rockliff. Still it will be a good chance for some of the younger blokes to step up. Looking for a bag from Sammy Michael.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 31, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
Worst peformance in a while. Poor coaching again with team selections. Sam Michael is also showing absolutely nothing. why is there hype ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 01, 2013, 12:12:23 AM
(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu68/nigey_tiger/Screenshot_5_zps348d3b4f.png)

Saw this on Twitter. While I think it's a bit harsh, how do Lions fans feel about Vossy at present? This is the last year on his contract I think (correct me if I'm wrong) and could it be his last year in the job if things don't turn around soon?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: specky92 on June 01, 2013, 12:20:37 AM
Heard Aker is looking to be an assistant coach
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 01, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
As I said earlier in this thread we were fielding 8 players 20 or under this week so obviously we were going to be up against it but it will be a good education for them in that you have to be switched on from first bounce.

There were some encouraging signs though from players.  Clarke showed he will be a solid defender, Reddan stepped up and played his best game of the season, Patful bounced back from his towelling, Zorko is a midfielder note Voss.

Regarding Voss some of his decisions and selections are questionable.  We have seen the effect of his revolving door policy and this will go against him in his review.  Do not know why Banfield or Green were not selected as we needed their forward pressure last night as ball kept coming out of Pies defence to easily.  You are correct in that his contract is up this year,  Whilst Voss has undoubted credentials as an elite player this has not translated to his coaching nous.  He appears to slow to react to what is happening on the field and seems devoid of ideas by trying to be unique.  Whilst it is basic Voss seems lothe to revert to man on man to try and slow the tempo down till we get back on even terms.
Brisbane has a very young list and outstanding talent but Voss does not seem capable of talking them to the next level eg Rich, Reddan, Rockliff are all future stars but should be more dominant on the field now if they had been developed.  Know this sounds harsh but is my opinion and I have the utmost respect for Voss but if he is not removed as coach or changes his methods can see Brisbane becoming like Melbourne (Sorry Dees fans) hepas of talent not developed properly.

Brisbane needs to have an established coach that can take our talented group to elite level.  I would be pulling out all stops to entice Paul Roos back to coaching to develop group.  Remember Matthews took Brisbane from last place to Premiers in 3 years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 01, 2013, 08:48:57 AM
Watching the game thought Harwood looked quite good. Made a couple of errors, but tried to attack from the back, which is always a good thing. Looks quite scary with his shaved head though!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 01, 2013, 09:00:31 AM
Watching the game thought Harwood looked quite good. Made a couple of errors, but tried to attack from the back, which is always a good thing. Looks quite scary with his shaved head though!
  Wish Voss would give him a decent go as well CF. His revolving door policy with Harwood, Yeo, Clarke and Docherty for 2 positions is not helping their development. Harwood at 23 should be developed more which reinforces ny comments above.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 01, 2013, 09:52:21 AM
Clarke looked good. Karnys kicking is worrying, he could become a good player if he gets that right. yeo was average. hoping docherty keeps his spot over him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: TeeJay on June 01, 2013, 10:04:11 AM
(http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu68/nigey_tiger/Screenshot_5_zps348d3b4f.png)

Saw this on Twitter. While I think it's a bit harsh, how do Lions fans feel about Vossy at present? This is the last year on his contract I think (correct me if I'm wrong) and could it be his last year in the job if things don't turn around soon?

Yeah adisease that captained your club to 3 premierships  ::) What a f-wit
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
Looks like rocky is a definite. rich is 50/50

Rockliff is the only Brisbane top-liner guaranteed of returning for the Dockers showdown having all but overcome the quad injury that snapped a run of 34-straight senior appearances.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 10, 2013, 11:26:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vDZEP5ECAo

Rocky's challenges are better this season! haha
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 10, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Haha so good!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 11, 2013, 06:07:28 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-11/in-the-mix-round-12 (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-11/in-the-mix-round-12)

So Rocky should be back this week, and Rich is still a week away :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 11, 2013, 06:13:01 PM
Really hope Rocky is back this week, might be in a bit of trouble fantasy wise if he isn't.  :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 12, 2013, 01:11:49 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-12/lions-hit-reset-button

"Some stars may return against the Dockers, with Tom Rockliff (quad), Matthew Leuenberger (thumb) and Daniel Rich (shoulder) all completing Wednesday's training warm-up at a rain-soaked Gabba.

Leuenberger was pulled aside by the team doctor to have some strapping reapplied to his injured hand.

"Whether they're playing by this week, that's too early to tell," Voss said.

"As far as Leuey and Richy go, let's see how they train. We have to make sure they're absolutely right to go. The game is too brutal to do otherwise."

Think may be a bit early for Berger or Rich as I would hate to see them aggravate and risk further stints on the sideline.

No mention of Rocky in this report so based on the Bupa report we can assume he will be available for selection.

If we are to match last years effort of 10 wins we need to win 7 of the next 12 and given our next 3 are against Freo, Geelong, Hawks means 7 out of 10 and Suns in Q clash will not be easy given their form.  Also have Geelong again in final Round.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 13, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
This lions team is a joke. 7 changes. 5 good but...
http://www.lions.com.au/season/team-announcement (http://www.lions.com.au/season/team-announcement)

I think I should just start supporting the suns tbh
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 13, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
Bit stiff on Polka?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 13, 2013, 05:48:02 PM
Bit stiff on Polka?
And Sammy  :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 13, 2013, 05:58:56 PM
Surprised that Polkinghorne finally got dropped. I hope after next week when Brown and Merrett come back Voss can decide on a 22 and stick with it for the rest of the season. Hoping to be competitive against Freo this week, but I'm expecting a heavy loss.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 13, 2013, 06:02:45 PM
Is it safe to say that if Voss doesn't lose his job at the end of the season there will be widespread outrage from a majority of footy fans, Lions supporters included?  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on June 13, 2013, 06:03:12 PM
I'll back voss.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 13, 2013, 06:10:38 PM
I'll back voss.
Really?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 13, 2013, 06:13:20 PM
I think Voss is a good coach for the club, his problem is he can't name a consistent line up. If he could figure out the best 22 and play them, build up a core group of players, I'd be happy for him to stay. Still he has been at the club for 5 years now and he's only made the finals in his first year. Going to need something special in the second half of the season for him to keep his job.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 13, 2013, 06:14:57 PM
Just realized Patfuls playing his 150th game this weekend :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 13, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
I found Voss's team selection sheet.

(http://www.agrippa-thoughtmanifest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/door.gif)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: specky92 on June 13, 2013, 06:20:07 PM
Oh my lawd Nails!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 13, 2013, 06:27:24 PM
Hahaha. Love it Nails
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 13, 2013, 06:51:09 PM
Bit stiff on Polka?
And Sammy  :(

he showed nothing in his 2 games
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 13, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
I think Voss is a good coach for the club, his problem is he can't name a consistent line up. If he could figure out the best 22 and play them, build up a core group of players, I'd be happy for him to stay. Still he has been at the club for 5 years now and he's only made the finals in his first year. Going to need something special in the second half of the season for him to keep his job.
Have to disagree with you BB. Some of Voss's selections and match day moves leave a lot to be desired.  Naming players out of position not giving players a fair go.  Some players appear to be favourites and others not,  Must say I am surprised with Polkinghornes omission given the absence of Moloney.  Pressure will be on Mayes to cover.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 13, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/300x300/38704096.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 13, 2013, 08:26:17 PM
Meant to add nails that you nailed the revolving door policy with your picture and this is very destabilising to the team. I have been supporting the Bears/Lions for 25 years so will not be shifting loyalties having supporting through bad and good but as a supporter you need to call it as it is with the coach.  Voss was a great player but unfortunately has not been able to transfer this to the coaching ranks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 14, 2013, 05:58:27 AM
Bit stiff on Polka?
And Sammy  :(

he showed nothing in his 2 games
You have to start somewhere. I think he should have been played in the ruck more. He had a couple of hit outs in his second game, but I feel a Jonathan Brown position is not the right position for him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 14, 2013, 07:28:06 AM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/300x300/38704096.jpg)

I can't see it, probably have update my java thing or something lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 14, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
I found Voss's team selection sheet.

(http://www.agrippa-thoughtmanifest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/door.gif)

Picasso, is that you?  :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 14, 2013, 01:41:38 PM
I found Voss's team selection sheet.

(http://www.agrippa-thoughtmanifest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/door.gif)

Picasso, is that you?  :o

Okay, I'm going to come clean here after many compliments on the artwork

I must confess I found it on google images.

Whilst I might be known as the Picasso of fanfooty, this one was not my masterpiece.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 14, 2013, 01:43:53 PM
I figured that when I quoted it an saw the url. :P

Still, props for finding and posting it.  ;)

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 14, 2013, 01:49:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2Iq79hs.png)

This is my own masterpiece however. A picture of redhead (although an orange-y redhead) M. Voss speaking to himself.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 14, 2013, 01:51:30 PM
Brilliant, simply brilliant!  ;D

Well done Nailscasso.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 14, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
This one is very original and Brilliant Nails well done.  The truth hurts  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 14, 2013, 03:11:13 PM
Goose to play NEAFL this weekend

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-14/goose-set-for-neafl-return (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-14/goose-set-for-neafl-return)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 14, 2013, 10:15:23 PM
Green Vest for tomorrow ? Mayes or Docherty
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 14, 2013, 10:17:55 PM
Strikes I don't appreciate you coming in here and not laughing at my pictures mate. Get your shower together.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on June 14, 2013, 10:20:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vDZEP5ECAo

Rocky's challenges are better this season! haha
That was classic! :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 14, 2013, 10:22:50 PM
Strikes I don't appreciate you coming in here and not laughing at my pictures mate. Get your shower together.

I Can't see them
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 14, 2013, 10:45:27 PM
Strikes I don't appreciate you coming in here and not laughing at my pictures mate. Get your shower together.

I Can't see them

(http://i.imgur.com/f865C.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on June 14, 2013, 11:27:54 PM
haha Nails. gold mate ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 15, 2013, 05:27:38 AM
Green Vest for tomorrow ? Mayes or Docherty
Docherty imo
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 15, 2013, 06:44:24 AM
Would not surprise though if Rich starts with green vest but suspect he may get the red. Given the structure that is in the team sheet I suspect Mayes may wear the green.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 15, 2013, 07:08:06 AM
So Black says he will retire, now he's saying he's undecided. This is confusing http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-14/black-undecided-on-future (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-14/black-undecided-on-future)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 15, 2013, 06:17:52 PM
We deserved to lose there. With 8 changes or something, we were never chance. I really wouldnt be surprised if we finish bottom 4.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 15, 2013, 06:38:20 PM
At least we were competitive not like previous matches where we appeared to roll over. 

One positive to come out of the game is the emergence of Justin Clarke s a tall defender.  May be difficult for Maguire to get back in.

Hope Lisle continues to get games as well to cement his place.  Think he will offer an alternative to Brown up forward.

Memo to Voss though Rocky and Zorko do their best work in the mids so play them there.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Cicjose on June 15, 2013, 06:41:31 PM
Freo were poor today as well considering how badly you guys are going Freo only put the game beyond doubt in junk time but today was an awful game to watch from both sides

but yeah Hanley was the latest player to play himself out of form due to the revolving door
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 15, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
Reserves Game

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-15/reserves-back-to-their-best (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-15/reserves-back-to-their-best)


Lions:       9.3   13.6   14.16   20.14.134
Labrador: 0.2    2.2      3.4       5.5.35

Goals
Lions:  S. Michael 4, J. Green 3, C. Bartlett 3, J. Crisp 2, P. Karnezis 2, M. Close , A. Cornelius , L. Dawson , C. Tickner , N. Hayes , J. O''Brien
Labrador: R. White , B. Boyle , J. Goldsmith , R. Davey , A. Clarke

Best
Lions: J. Green, S. Michael, P. Karnezis, M. Close, N. Hayes
Labrador: J. Stephenson, A. Watts, A. Clarke, M. Clarke, T. Grayson, R. White


If only the 1s were as good as the 2s  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Cicjose on June 15, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
the neafl is the poorest quality second tier league in the country
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 15, 2013, 06:54:37 PM
It may be, but some of the guys in the 2s should be in the 1s, like Green, Michael and Karnezis imo.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 15, 2013, 08:05:09 PM
Poor from voss pulling blacky off. milestone match.

Brown and Merrett back in next week. much needed. Green hopefully back in the 22 as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 15, 2013, 08:32:51 PM
Maybe Vossie unintentionally helped Blackie make up his mind whether to continue.  Another typical poor decision by Voss we were level with Freo in contested possessions and Black was leading that area when he was subbed. Why sub a player who is winning you the Ball.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Cicjose on June 16, 2013, 01:27:12 AM
um? because he can?

sorry Ringo.....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 16, 2013, 04:25:00 AM
Black was probably one of our better players anyway
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 16, 2013, 06:23:12 AM
um? because he can?

sorry Ringo.....
That would be the only reason Cic  ;) ;) ;) and maybe put more nails in the coffin ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 16, 2013, 06:31:20 AM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-15/voss-post-match (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-15/voss-post-match)

Quote
FATIGUE was the reason why Simon Black was subbed out of his club record-breaking 319th game during the third quarter, according to Lion's coach Michael Voss.

Black had accumulated 13 disposals and was the leading clearance player on the ground when he pulled on the red vest late in the third term with the Lions trailing by 23 points.

"He was battling physically," Voss said in the post-match press conference.

So maybe it wasn't Voss?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on June 16, 2013, 10:23:09 AM
Sounds like BS to me. Guaranteed that Black wouldn't have wanted to come off.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 16, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
Vossy's excuse or cover-up for a stupid decision. Sorry Michael, you flowered up.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on June 16, 2013, 11:39:41 AM
If Black was fatigued then maybe he should have retired because obviously he can't run out a full game and is taking a spot from another player.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 16, 2013, 12:01:35 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-15/voss-post-match (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-06-15/voss-post-match)

Quote
FATIGUE was the reason why Simon Black was subbed out of his club record-breaking 319th game during the third quarter, according to Lion's coach Michael Voss.

Black had accumulated 13 disposals and was the leading clearance player on the ground when he pulled on the red vest late in the third term with the Lions trailing by 23 points.

"He was battling physically," Voss said in the post-match press conference.

So maybe it wasn't Voss?
Sorry do not believe him

Can you trust someone who also makes this statement
"Voss said stability and continuity was the key for the Lions in their development in the second half of the year." with the revolving door policy we are seeing.

Regarding my observations on Black he does seem to be struggling a bit physically this year but he still manages to run the game out.  Maybe the larger Subiaco Oval was a factor. I would still rather have Black winning possessions than being on the sideline.  It was only after Black was subbed that Freo really burst the game open.  Not saying it cost us the game as the better side one but Black may have been the difference between a 20 point defeat and the 40 point final margin.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 16, 2013, 01:11:38 PM
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-champion-simon-black-battles-mystery-bug-in-milestone-match/story-fnia3y5g-1226664434637

Looks like we may have been a bit too critical on Blacks replacing.

"The triple premiership hero admitted after the game to being confused and concerned by his condition over the past 10 days, especially the sleeplessness, and said he would consult the club doctor.

He said he did not ask to be subbed off but had told the runners he was battling and he had no objections when the decision was made by the coach.

"I don't think I've ever struggled that badly," he said.

"I didn't feel great coming into the game and to be honest I have been pretty flat for about 10 days."

Hope they find the cause as imagine how well he can play 100% fit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 16, 2013, 01:39:21 PM
The Crowley tag probably didn't help
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 20, 2013, 09:09:45 PM
Great to see Merrett and Brown back.

I know teams usually do not line up as announced but do not like Lester at FF and Hanley on the Ball.  Mayes and Hanley should swap imo. Golby in the centre also a bit of a surprise although he can interchange with Rich.

Looking at the team unless Moloney is not fully fitor Raines is not required to tag Selwood hard to see Yeo, Harwood and Docherty making final cut.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on June 21, 2013, 04:19:21 PM
So Docherty is in, chances he is the sub again?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 21, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
Suspect so Matt unfortunately.

We have gone very heavy in defensive players with Yeo, Harwood and Dochers all being named so If Dochers does not start with vest he will probably be a candidate for red. Harwood may be given a run through the mids though.

Yet another selection stuff up by Voss. Bewick has been one of the better performers this year up forward.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on June 21, 2013, 04:31:05 PM
Yeah I was surprised to see Bewick dropped, I have watched a fair few Lions games this season and he has been impressive. Normally you don't see the same player get a vest twice in a row but that theory has gone out the window this season. Docherty looks like the prime candidate unless it is Rich trying to manage his minutes.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 21, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
If I had my way Yeo would be the sub, green and bewick would be in there as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 21, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
Okay, I'm not a Lions supporter, but Rohan Bewick is one of my favourite Lions players.

Time to utter expletives nice and loudly since I'm home alone.

What a cow.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 21, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
Are you actually kidding me? Why the flower would he drop Bewick? One of the players that has actually done decently this year.

I've kept my support with Voss for a while thinking he can turn things around if he can just get all the players on the park, but that's it. Sack him and get a decent coach, who actually knows what positions his players play best in, in there.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 21, 2013, 04:41:05 PM
Vest/Drop Bewick, we may as well de list Brown, Black, Merrett, Rockliff, Redden, Rich, Zorko and Hanley.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 21, 2013, 04:44:33 PM
Yeah I was surprised to see Bewick dropped, I have watched a fair few Lions games this season and he has been impressive. Normally you don't see the same player get a vest twice in a row but that theory has gone out the window this season. Docherty looks like the prime candidate unless it is Rich trying to manage his minutes.

realisticly there is 3 or 4 players that fit it well

Dochery, Yeo, Harwood and a very doubtful chance of Mayes
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 21, 2013, 05:51:50 PM
Is Voss's stupidity with selections the reason Hanley and Rich have not re-signed yet,  Would hate to think so but Voss with his selections is doing nothing to inspire me.  Team selection has Lester forward and I can not remember Lester playing forward as yet but may be wrong as an example.

Regarding vest can not see Mayes getting the vest given the team that is named. He says tongue in cheek Harwood will probably get the vest as he was one of the better performers against Freo and Carlton the week before.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 21, 2013, 06:32:38 PM
Dare I dream of the team with a real coach, who knows what we could do
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 21, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
Me too Strikes - Have a very promising young list and with the right coach can do wonders.  Reckon we should really be chasing hard on Paul Roos.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 21, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
What about Eade? He said something about Melbourne, would be good at Brisbane
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 22, 2013, 08:00:34 AM
Roos, Williams or Eade, maybe even Harvey if he wants a senior position again. One of these could takes us to a flag.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 23, 2013, 06:40:59 AM
Was Harvey a good coach at freo? I havent been following footy for that long.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2013, 06:43:35 AM
Harvey in my opinion is not an option.  He was great at developing players and always had Freo there abouts but could not take to the next level as Lyon has done this year.  Will be an excellent development coach.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 23, 2013, 07:01:15 AM
Thanks Ringo
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 23, 2013, 08:58:25 AM
Harvey in my opinion is not an option.  He was great at developing players and always had Freo there abouts but could not take to the next level as Lyon has done this year.  Will be an excellent development coach.
I actually think that Harvey was a good coach. Lyon coming in this year just has the game style for those players and his lock down play works so well with Freo's set up. I think that Harvey would be a bit of a last resort option though for us and hopefully he does stay on in some sort of assistant role.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 23, 2013, 06:26:14 PM
ASHLEY MCGRATH YOU LEGEND!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on June 23, 2013, 06:27:43 PM
What a last qtr.... 8)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
I'm freaking out at the thought of Voss possibly keeping his job because of this win.

Could it happen? :o ::) :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 23, 2013, 06:31:12 PM
I'm freaking out at the thought of Voss possibly keeping his job because of this win.

Could it happen? :o ::) :(
Now's not the time to be thinking of that.

8th largest comeback in history after trailing by as much as 52 points! What a last quarter 8 goals. We are the giant killers, anyone in the top 2, we beat. Bring on the Hawks next week ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 23, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
Lets not think of that Nigey, it's time to celebrate :)  ;D :D :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 23, 2013, 06:41:37 PM
I'll let you Lions supporters have your fun, I'll just sit here and fret about what Vossy is doing to Pearce Hanley.  :'(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 23, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
What happened to Mayes? Was it a bad injury?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on June 23, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
I went from  :) when Lions lead early q1 to  :( then until en of q3 I was going  :( :( :'(

Then q4 came around I was like  ??? ??? :-\ :-\ >:( :-\ :-[ :-\ :) :) :) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: specky92 on June 23, 2013, 06:44:49 PM
Well done Brisbane! I'm sure Ringo had a blast!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
Yes specky was amazing. BP just about back to normal - need to do some gargling to restore voice. Noise in stadium deafening.

Do not think this win will take the pressure of Voss completely. Was not happy when I seen Hanley and Rockliff lining up forward at first bounce.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 24, 2013, 08:14:37 AM
Thought I would write up my appraisal of the game after coming down from the emotional high. Was amazing atmosphere at the Ground with one of our biggest crowds of the season creating a deafening roar in the last quarter, so much so that they had to keep the full time siren sounding for at least 20 seconds.  It was only when I viewed the last 2 minute Video that I realised the siren actually sounded just after McGrath took the mark.

Any way observations on the match from a Brisbane perspective.

It was not Voss's coaching that got the win it was the players and the effort in the final quarter. When will Voss realise that Hanley and Rockliff are not forwards and play them where they belong from the start.
Moloney undoubtedly played his best game for the season for the Lions and was the catalyst to lift the team in the last Quarter. Went Head to head with Selwood and although had less possessions his 3.1 return was very instrumental in the result.
Black what can you say was the outstanding player on the field and probably received the three Brownlow votes. In this form should he retire at the end of the season?
"Sauce" Merrett is definitely needed in defence and showed hos worth in the last quarter with some pressure marks in defence, Had his hands full with Hawkins and at times made a few poor decisions early which cost goals. Maybe this may have been a result of 3 weeks on the sidelines.
Jordan Lisle is providing an alternative target to Brown and hope Voss allows him to establish himself there. Also being used as as the relief Ruck which may or may not be a good thing.
Rich is working his way back to full fitness started like a house on fire but slowed a little.
McGrath lifted for his 200th game and kicked the winning goal. He has been under pressure from both Green and Banfield for this small forward role and answered the challenge.
Clarke developing well into the 3rd Tall defender and making it difficult for Maguire to force his way back in.
With Moloney being used as a run with player do we need to use Raines as a tagger. Was surprised that he was dropped but Moloney did a reasonable Job and Selwood.
Mayes copped an early knock and was largely ineffective and was subsequently subbed. Bewick should return if he does not come up to give more balance and allowing Hanley to return.
Will Voss now stop his revolving door policy given that he has staed that he wants to develop the core team in the 2nd half of the year.
Trust the team watches the video of the first 3/4 and see how Geelong moved the ball and found easy open targets. Too often the ball came into the centre and Geelong cleared by weight of numbers,
Lions need to ensure Tackles stick and attack the man with the ball. There were quite a few occasions in the match where the Geelong attacker was allowed to run with the defender standing off.

Umpiring again was inconsistent and as a fan hard to get a handle on the differences in Holding the Ball, Fair tackling and rolling the player resulting in in in the back calls, deliberate out of bounds, and the big one imo the Holding and scragging that goes on between defenders and forwards. This is not a winge against the umps for the Lions not winning the free kick count again at home (Yet to win a home free kick tally this year) but an observation as it effects both teams.

Was pleased that McGrath kicked the winning goal as the talking point would have been the inconclusive goal decision from Brown in the second quarter which imo was definitely a goal as I was right behind the goal and did not see a touch or even a touch on the replay.  We have seen so many "inconclusive" and subsequently wrong decisions this year so if the AFL is going to use this then it needs to improve the technology with high resolution cameras behind the goal and sensors in the goal posts to detect touches. As a fan at the ground waiting 3 - 4 minutes for the decision is not good either.
 

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 24, 2013, 08:28:16 AM
Best team imo

FB: Clarke, Merrett, Patfull
HB: Golby, Adcock, Rich
MID: Hanley, Moloney, Zorko
HF: Black, Brown, Mayes
FF: Bewick, Lisle, Green
Fol: Luenberger, Rockliff, Reddan
Int: Raines, Docherty, Longer, Staker

Emg: Goose, Yeo/Harwood/Polkinghorn, Michael

I like having 2 Ruckman, I think it is one of the better ways to develop Longer. I dont think Black will play much at HFF, but I need to name him somewhere.

Any objections Strikes/BB67th/Ringo?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 24, 2013, 09:03:29 AM
McGrath is probably in front of both Green and Banfield atm.  Banfield is performing better than Green in the 2's as well.
Like 2 Ruckman myself but Longer needs to develop his kicking skills and forward positioning as a resting Ruckman.  Would like to see that developed in the 2's but at the moment in the 2's Longer is sole rucking with Michael playing this role.  Would like to see this reversed in 2's.
Lisle/Merrett will be serviceable as relief rucks as Berger he has the ticker to Ruck 80/90% of game time. Only time it would be an issue is coming up against teams with 2 genuine rucks like West Coast.
So would replace Longer with Lester.  I would have Lester before Yeo and Harwood.
After Moloneys performance yesterday as a run with player Raines may be a luxury on I/c bench but jury still out on this one. If this is proven the case for balance would have Green/Banfield replace Raines..
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 24, 2013, 09:09:36 AM
forgot McGrath, lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 24, 2013, 09:33:51 AM
http://instagram.com/p/a68Ab1q0c5/# (http://instagram.com/p/a68Ab1q0c5/#)

Hahahaha
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 24, 2013, 05:03:22 PM
Great win by the Lions. Couldn't believe when I checked the score at the end of the game after seeing the score in 3rd quarter.

But why did Harwood start sub? He had been one of their better performers the previous 2 rounds surely?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 24, 2013, 05:54:25 PM
Great win by the Lions. Couldn't believe when I checked the score at the end of the game after seeing the score in 3rd quarter.

But why did Harwood start sub? He had been one of their better performers the previous 2 rounds surely?
IOne word CF - Voss

For a coach that needs to improve his performance some of his selections are mind boggling to say the least. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 24, 2013, 06:26:32 PM
Best team imo

FB: Clarke, Merrett, Patfull
HB: Golby, Adcock, Rich
MID: Hanley, Moloney, Zorko
HF: Black, Brown, Mayes
FF: Bewick, Lisle, Green
Fol: Luenberger, Rockliff, Reddan
Int: Raines, Docherty, Longer, Staker

Emg: Goose, Yeo/Harwood/Polkinghorn, Michael

I like having 2 Ruckman, I think it is one of the better ways to develop Longer. I dont think Black will play much at HFF, but I need to name him somewhere.

Any objections Strikes/BB67th/Ringo?

yep love that team. as you said with black, probably has to go in the guts. he's very slick with his handballs. zorko could maybe rotate through the middle at times. Bewick needs to be in the team
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 24, 2013, 06:40:13 PM
Best team imo

FB: Clarke, Merrett, Patfull
HB: Golby, Adcock, Rich
MID: Hanley, Moloney, Zorko
HF: Black, Brown, Mayes
FF: Bewick, Lisle, Green
Fol: Luenberger, Rockliff, Reddan
Int: Raines, Docherty, Longer, Staker

Emg: Goose, Yeo/Harwood/Polkinghorn, Michael

I like having 2 Ruckman, I think it is one of the better ways to develop Longer. I dont think Black will play much at HFF, but I need to name him somewhere.

Any objections Strikes/BB67th/Ringo?
Black in the guts, and McGrath is probably still deserving of a spot in the team at the moment (not just because of last night). Also I'd have Martin in over Longer at the moment as the third tall and back up ruck, but I know he is still coming back from injury. Besides that the team looks pretty good. We have a very nice back 6.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 30, 2013, 06:22:04 AM
Bewick still not in the team ??? What is Vossy thinking?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 30, 2013, 08:54:03 AM
He seems to think Hanley and Rockliff are better forwards ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 30, 2013, 09:45:59 PM
sat here today and just watched our talent fly out the window with poor coaching

i'm sure everyone knows and is over hearing it but Pearce Hanley has to play permanently off half back. if this means dropping some players so be it. tom rockliff needs to go in the guts. find room for him. I would love this team to be named come thursday night merrett pending

Adcock - Merrett/Goose - Clarke
Golby  - Patful - Hanley
Redden - Moloney - Rich
Zorko - Brown - McGrath
Green - Lisle - Staker
Berger - Black - Rockliff

Lester - Yeo - Raines

Mayes
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on June 30, 2013, 10:04:38 PM
Would you play both Merrett and Goose in place of Clarke? Haven't watched a lot of Brisbane but I know Maguire and Sauce are both very good shut down defenders and Clarke still young and inexperienced.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 01, 2013, 05:55:04 AM
Best way to get Carke experienced is for him to play
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 01, 2013, 06:36:04 AM
Clarke is going to be a very good defender. have to keep playing him. infact if mcguire was to come it i reckon patful should go out before clarke but voss will protect him even though he has been poor all year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 01, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
Has Patful really been that bad?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 01, 2013, 09:42:52 PM
Has Patful really been that bad?

imo yes. down on his performances from last few years
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on July 01, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
I missed the game against the Hawks and read that Rocky played mainly forward again. Is it all the coaching of Voss or could his quad still be bothering him a fraction meaning he can't spend extended amounts of time in the middle?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 02, 2013, 09:36:41 AM
Think you hit the nail on the head here matt Will be watching closelly to see if this is the case in future.  Quad injuriies are hard to diagnose for correction and this may be one that hs to be nursed a little but allows you to play.  Nothing official in the Lions medical reports though.

Regarding Clarke though he has to be played as often as possible as I see him being a key defender for Lions in in years to come. At the moment happy to see him as the 3rd defender in place of Maguire or Parful.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 02, 2013, 09:40:55 AM
There goes Patfuls title defence :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 02, 2013, 09:51:30 AM
Do not think he is up there this year Rich down on last years form. Will be interesting to see how this years go. Hard to say at this stage. Reddan may be in front at the moment.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on July 02, 2013, 01:48:32 PM
Is Mayes on the fringe or an "always considered" list for selection when he is fit?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 02, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
The problem with Mayes is that he is basically a midfielder and that is where Brisbanes strength lies atm. He is a little on the short side to be a KPP but may be handy in the pocket but then has to compete with Zorko and Green.  He is only 19 so will get chances especially if Black retires this year. So atm he is on the fringe but will not always be the case.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 02, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-07-02/merrett-being-monitored

This may explain Docherty being subbed. Last paragraph of News item on Merrett.

"In other injury news, Sam Docherty looks set to miss 2-3 weeks after hurting his back during Sunday's match against Hawthorn. "

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on July 02, 2013, 04:56:40 PM
The problem with Mayes is that he is basically a midfielder and that is where Brisbanes strength lies atm. He is a little on the short side to be a KPP but may be handy in the pocket but then has to compete with Zorko and Green.  He is only 19 so will get chances especially if Black retires this year. So atm he is on the fringe but will not always be the case.

Thanks Ringo
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 02, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
Black leaves, Rocky plays in the mids, Mayes plays.

I think that'll be how it is.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on July 03, 2013, 09:06:13 AM
Not another two years......

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-will-beef-up-football-spending-which-could-enable-michael-voss-to-win-a-new-deal/story-fnia3y5g-1226673402653 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-will-beef-up-football-spending-which-could-enable-michael-voss-to-win-a-new-deal/story-fnia3y5g-1226673402653)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 03, 2013, 09:31:32 AM
The poll result is interesting BB with the no vote in front.  can not see Voss improving with the increase in Coaching Staff.  It is not the lack of Coaching staff that makes the decision to play Hanley and Rockliff forward - It is not the coaching staff that makes the decision to leave Patful on Hawkins when Hawkins is killing it. just a couple of examples showing Voss's lack of Nous.
If increasing the coaching staff maybe keep Voss in some role and bring in Roos or another experienced coach.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on July 03, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
The poll result is interesting BB with the no vote in front.  can not see Voss improving with the increase in Coaching Staff.  It is not the lack of Coaching staff that makes the decision to play Hanley and Rockliff forward - It is not the coaching staff that makes the decision to leave Patful on Hawkins when Hawkins is killing it. just a couple of examples showing Voss's lack of Nous.
If increasing the coaching staff maybe keep Voss in some role and bring in Roos or another experienced coach.

If Roos not available, Neeldy might enjoy the Qld sunshine  ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 04, 2013, 06:02:51 PM
Some good ins this week. blackys out though
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 05, 2013, 09:31:05 AM
Some good ins this week. blackys out though
Would like to have seen Lisle given a bit more of a go though strikes. Although I welcome the inclussion of Bewick he does not have the height that Lisle has to be the second traget forward. Trust we are not going to use Lester foread again though.
Raines will tag Ablett and suspect Mayes or Green may be the sub  but who kinows with Voss's selections.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 05, 2013, 11:01:09 AM
Lisle  :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 06, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
team set up was good tonight. rocky looked good going in the guts, if he played the entire game there he could of went 35-40 touches
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 10, 2013, 06:09:47 AM
Moloney Out for 2 (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-09/calf-strain-set-to-sideline-moloney-for-two-weeks) :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 10, 2013, 07:14:37 AM
Maybe more mid time for Rocky - mayes will also get a decent run as well with Black Doubtful as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 14, 2013, 11:02:26 AM
All Queensland Grand Final next year. You heard it here first
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: TeeJay on July 14, 2013, 11:46:18 AM
All Queensland Grand Final next year. You heard it here first

Lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on July 14, 2013, 12:02:07 PM
A good point about last night's match. North Melbourne was 10th on the ladder before the game. Means that we finally beat a team ranked from 3rd-10th. And with a good draw until the last round, I think we could get 11 or 12 wins for the year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 14, 2013, 02:28:02 PM
All Queensland Grand Final next year. You heard it here first

Lol
Laugh all you want.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 14, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
Good win by the Lions, very happy they won.

Yes, I'm still bitter from Norf beating Richmond even though we won this week too.

Also, I tipped Brisbane and my fantasy players did well.

 ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on July 15, 2013, 11:37:05 AM
All Queensland Grand Final next year. You heard it here first

Lol
Laugh all you want.
I'd pencil, pencil both in for finals next year but can't be sure....granny a bit steep I think.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 15, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
All Queensland Grand Final next year. You heard it here first

Lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: TeeJay on July 15, 2013, 11:42:55 AM
All Queensland Grand Final next year. You heard it here first

Lol
Laugh all you want.

I am..
All you Brissy supporters thought you were gonna play finals this year because you won the nab cup  ::)
You wont play finals as long as you still have Voss as your coach and you are still a long way off a grand final.
Goldcoast will naturally progress further but they wont get the easy fixture spoon fed to them a 4th year in a row as there are plenty of teams below them now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 15, 2013, 11:55:39 AM
Why won't we play finals?

Our fixture:

Melbourne - win
Port - win
St. Kilda - win
Richmond - draw
GWS - win
Bulldogs - win
Geelong - loss

11-1-10

Might be enough to play finals.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 15, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
Agree with Nails here - Think the first Round Loss to Bulldogs though may be the game that keeps us out of the eight. If we win all 7 left we will make it and it may be a very big last round for us at skilled so maybe Geelong may be kind with a top 4 position sown up GS may be in play.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: TeeJay on July 15, 2013, 12:07:07 PM
Why won't we play finals?

Our fixture:

Melbourne - win
Port - win
St. Kilda - win
Richmond - draw
GWS - win
Bulldogs - win
Geelong - loss

11-1-10

Might be enough to play finals.

Your not serious?

For starter 11 and a half wins wont get you finals. You will need 12 and a very good percentage this year.

Secondly, you are being a bit optomistic with your wins and losses for the rest of the year.

Melboure- Should win (game in darwin makes it a 50/50)
Port- Loss
Saints- Win
Richmond- Loss
Gws- Win
Dogs- Win
Geelong Loss

That is more realistic
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: TeeJay on July 15, 2013, 12:08:44 PM
Agree with Nails here - Think the first Round Loss to Bulldogs though may be the game that keeps us out of the eight. If we win all 7 left we will make it and it may be a very big last round for us at skilled so maybe Geelong may be kind with a top 4 position sown up GS may be in play.

You wont win all 7 and you know it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 15, 2013, 12:26:04 PM
Agree with Nails here - Think the first Round Loss to Bulldogs though may be the game that keeps us out of the eight. If we win all 7 left we will make it and it may be a very big last round for us at skilled so maybe Geelong may be kind with a top 4 position sown up GS may be in play.

You wont win all 7 and you know it

Which is probably why he said 'if', mate. We're all allowed to indulge in a bit of wishful thinking at times.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on July 15, 2013, 12:34:47 PM
I feel that if we keep up our current form, we are a good chance to win the next 6 games. Port at AAMI and Richmond at the MCG obviously will be tough games for us, but if we want to show that if we have improved any this year, they are games we need to win. I feel we could go close to finals this year and the Bulldogs game in round 1 could well be the match that prevents us from making finals.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 15, 2013, 02:53:42 PM
Why won't we play finals?

Our fixture:

Melbourne - win
Port - win
St. Kilda - win
Richmond - draw
GWS - win
Bulldogs - win
Geelong - loss

11-1-10

Might be enough to play finals.

are you serious, no where near enough draws. i can sense some more against port and geelong
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 17, 2013, 06:21:19 AM
Why won't we play finals?

Our fixture:

Melbourne - win
Port - win
St. Kilda - win
Richmond - draw
GWS - win
Bulldogs - win
Geelong - loss

11-1-10

Might be enough to play finals.

Your not serious?

For starter 11 and a half wins wont get you finals. You will need 12 and a very good percentage this year.

Secondly, you are being a bit optomistic with your wins and losses for the rest of the year.

Melboure- Should win (game in darwin makes it a 50/50)
Port- Loss
Saints- Win
Richmond- Loss
Gws- Win
Dogs- Win
Geelong Loss

That is more realistic
Are you an idiot? Brisbane can beat Port and Richmond. How does playing Melbourne in Darwin make it a 50/50. It is stupid putting Brisbane at par with Melbourne. Shut up you troll.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 17, 2013, 06:05:33 PM
Why won't we play finals?

Our fixture:

Melbourne - win
Port - win
St. Kilda - win
Richmond - draw
GWS - win
Bulldogs - win
Geelong - loss

11-1-10

Might be enough to play finals.

Your not serious?

For starter 11 and a half wins wont get you finals. You will need 12 and a very good percentage this year.

Secondly, you are being a bit optomistic with your wins and losses for the rest of the year.

Melboure- Should win (game in darwin makes it a 50/50)
Port- Loss
Saints- Win
Richmond- Loss
Gws- Win
Dogs- Win
Geelong Loss

That is more realistic
Are you an idiot? Brisbane can beat Port and Richmond. How does playing Melbourne in Darwin make it a 50/50. It is stupid putting Brisbane at par with Melbourne. Shut up you troll.

if anything it favours brisbane even more playing in Darwin.

On another note how good was it watching rocky back in the mids. classy player
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 21, 2013, 11:00:38 AM
some big ins to come in next week, will need them against port. just wondering what the team will be like. this what I expect from voss

Adcock - McGurie - Clarke
Golby - Patful - Hanley
Redden - Black - Mayes
Zorko - Brown - Rockliff
Green - Merrett - Bewick
Berger - Moloney - Rich

Raines - McGrath - Staker

Lester
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 21, 2013, 12:22:17 PM
Would be great if Voss did this but as we know he does not.  Starting to think McGrath is a bit of luxury as a small forward/defender these days so may replace him with Harwood or Docherty. Suspect Black may be the player subbed as well.
Shame to see Rocky forward as he has shown in the last 2 weeks what he can do in the guts.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 25, 2013, 07:45:12 PM
who would you's rather Raines go to on Sunday. I'm thinking Wingard maybe Boak
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 25, 2013, 08:33:17 PM
I would think Wingard as well been carving it up - Boak or Brad Ebert would be the other possibilities.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 26, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Goose to play game 150 this week :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on July 26, 2013, 06:37:17 PM
Why did Harwood get dropped? He's been playing well recently hasn't he? ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 26, 2013, 07:07:31 PM
He has been playing CF - With the return of Golby though someone had to go.  Would have thought it would have been Yeo before Harwood though but this is Voss we are talking about. Docherty made the most of his opportunitiy last week and retained position. Leaving Golby, Harwood and Yeo fighting for 2 positions.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on July 26, 2013, 07:17:29 PM
Yeo has been gun. Deserves his spot.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 26, 2013, 10:10:39 PM
someone had to drop out
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 28, 2013, 03:26:45 PM
(http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a503/nrich102/Lions_zps909fabac.png)

The story of the lions next year...


...Maybe we'll be good when Coles gets new ads :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 29, 2013, 05:33:07 PM
any news on moloneys hammy ? hopefully black will be straight swap for him. clarke looks like he is getting fatigued, maybe rest him pushing merrett into defence and bring in lisle.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 29, 2013, 06:56:42 PM
No news on Moloneys Hammy or Hanleys hand yet.  Should be something in Bupa update tomorrow.

Agree with Clarke but maybe recall Michael who has been having some good games in reserves. Stephan Martin is also possibly available for selection as well. Lisle should also be given an extended run forward as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 29, 2013, 07:01:36 PM
No news on Moloneys Hammy or Hanleys hand yet.  Should be something in Bupa update tomorrow.

Agree with Clarke but maybe recall Michael who has been having some good games in reserves. Stephan Martin is also possibly available for selection as well. Lisle should also be given an extended run forward as well.
#BigBoySammytoReturn  ;) This kid is a gun.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 02, 2013, 06:05:52 AM
Surprised to see Jesse O get a game and Ash McGrath dropped.  No Sam Micheael though  :-[
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 02, 2013, 07:43:01 AM
Michael is being developed in the 2's as a R/F looking to the Future. Thought Stefan Martin may have been in line as well. 
Based on reserves form I thought Karnezis may have been in front of O'Brien for the recall but both worthy. Both have been in the best 6 on ground for the last 6 weeks. Reserves had the bye last week as well.
McKeever is a bit of enigma for me plays well in the reserves but can not translate to the seniors when he gets his chance so maybe he will be on the trade table as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 02, 2013, 08:34:52 AM
Hey ringo, just thought you could let me know how Polec is going in the reserves? Has he been playing really badly and that is why he isn't getting a shot in the seniors? I know Brissy have a lot of mids, but you would think they would still give some opportunity to a very high draft pick who obviously has talent. Reckon they will trade him this year?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 02, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
CF he has not been playing too badly it is just that both O'Brien and Karnezis have been playing much better than him.  Bartlett may have also passed him as well. Mayes has cemented his spot as a mid as well.
Polec has only picked up one vote in the last 10 rounds as one of the best 6 on ground to give you an indication.  He has also been disadvantaged by established senior players back to the reserves as a result of Voss's revolving door. Players like Green, Bewick, Polec. Polkinghorne, Harwood etc taking points when playing in reserves.
I suspect he may be used as trade bait this year Quinny but hope he does not do a Henderson on us.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on August 02, 2013, 09:24:02 AM
CF he has not been playing too badly it is just that both O'Brien and Karnezis have been playing much better than him.  Bartlett may have also passed him as well. Mayes has cemented his spot as a mid as well.
Polec has only picked up one vote in the last 10 rounds as one of the best 6 on ground to give you an indication.  He has also been disadvantaged by established senior players back to the reserves as a result of Voss's revolving door. Players like Green, Bewick, Polec. Polkinghorne, Harwood etc taking points when playing in reserves.
I suspect he may be used as trade bait this year Quinny but hope he does not do a Henderson on us.
There is every chance he could given he was a No. 5 draft pick so he obviously has some talent. Just need to make sure you get something good in return unlike the other player involved in the Henderson trade  :-X
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 03, 2013, 11:22:31 PM
thoughts on brownys career ? not such a bad injury but will be long enough for the year, I personally thought he'd go around again. he should be all good come pre season start. I can't see browny ending his career with an injury... not in him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 04, 2013, 04:37:49 AM
I think he'll play another season. In his current form he could go on for as long as Fletcher ::) :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on August 04, 2013, 08:12:04 AM
At least one more for Brown. He wants to get the club to another finals campaign at least.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 04, 2013, 12:37:37 PM
Just a few comments on last nights game. Actually attended this game after missing the last 2 due to birth of 4th grand child in Townsville.

The big issue coming out of the game (apart from Brownies injury) is we were again on the wrong end of the free kick count 19 - 7. We did not get a free kick at all in the 3rd quarter. I was paying very strict attention to the free kicks last night when and how often they are being given given our record.  In my opinion only one team was being umpired last night with 4 St Kilda Goals being the result of free kicks. (I was interested to read the comment that Lions fans were boing Saad and whilst there was a small element that did throughout the game the one that was highlighted was the result of Saad being paid a dubious free kick and of course you boo when that happens regardless of who it is),Frustrations were boiling over and no doubt this contributed to the flare ups that occurred, The one real umpiring inconsistency that upset me was St Kilda invariably receiving a free kick for over the shoulder in tackles and not holding the ball but in Brisbanes case when the same thing occurred we were pinged for holding the ball. This was really illustrated by Rich when he spun around in 2 tackles with both appearing to be above the shoulders and gets pinged for holding the ball. Umpiring rant over.

The positives for Brisbane on the night - For the whole of the second half our back 6 were Patful, Adcock, Clarke, Docherty, Yeo and Harwood so this all goes well for the future,
Hanley despite the hand being well protected showed no inconvenience,
Rockliff undoubtedly was best on ground and again showed why he should be given time in the midfield.
Rich is finally starting to break tags - was tagged by Clint Jones - but broke the tag on quite a few occasions to set play up and kick 3 60 metre goals himself.
Merrett showed he will capably fill in for Brown for the rest of the season.
Despite his goal Goose is not a forward with his second kick being OOB on the full.

If we are to be a finals chance and beat Richmond next week we need to improve 100%.  We tended to over use the handball quite a bit last night turning the ball over a number of times and a stronger team would have taken advantage as quite often it was turned back over by St Kilda.

I think Brownie will play on for one more year in an endeavour to play finals again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on August 05, 2013, 10:45:38 AM
Rockliff's playing well lately in his new role in the midfield  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 05, 2013, 10:56:56 AM
Rockliff plays well whenever he's near his best mate on the field as you can see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6ieop9wKg

Seriously I don't think two players have made more passes to each other than anyone in the entire AFL.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 05, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
Luv it Nails
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 06, 2013, 05:51:27 AM
Golby out for a week:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-05/mrp-full-statement-round-19 (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-05/mrp-full-statement-round-19)

Quote
Mitch Golby, Brisbane Lions, has been charged with a level one striking offence (225 demerit points, two-match sanction) for striking Tom Curren, St Kilda, during the second quarter of the Round 19 match between the Brisbane Lions and St Kilda, played at the Gabba on Saturday August 3, 2013.
 
In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.
 
Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the St Kilda Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct (one points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a level one offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 168.75 points and a one-match sanction.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 06, 2013, 08:02:57 AM
All I will say with this is there were a lot worse incidents than this one in the match and was surprised when I seen this report although I suspected may be the case as he threw a punch which landed softly. Golby retaliated to some niggle from Curren and fair enough lashed and needs to control and live with this as a young player, Needs to learn from Rich who was tagged by Jones all night and some of the tactics Jones used were incredible but to Rich's credit did not retaliate.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 06, 2013, 09:05:34 AM
We need to win this week against Richmond - If Essendon are stripped of points as may be likely we can still make the 8 by sneaking into 9th position.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 08, 2013, 05:42:44 PM
Bewick Omitted :'( :o Why?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 08, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
better give Lester a full game Voss
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 08, 2013, 08:45:05 PM
Think Lester will be the sub this week and dropped next week - That seems to Voss's selection policies.

Bewick was the sub last week and did not get a lot of opportunities and now dropped.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 08, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Hmm really want to name Lester over B Reid vs Sydney in BXV
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 08, 2013, 09:00:28 PM
Bewick Omitted :'( :o Why?

voss was praising him for giving the team run the other night. he really confuses me this bloke
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 08, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
Bewick Omitted :'( :o Why?

voss was praising him for giving the team run the other night. he really confuses me this bloke
+20
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 08, 2013, 09:21:48 PM
it's punishment for 2 behinds and not 2 goals. Not good enough.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 09, 2013, 02:58:21 PM
Black may play NEAFL this week :)

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-08-09/black-a-neafl-chance (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-08-09/black-a-neafl-chance)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 10, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
Spanked in free kicks again. I saw at least 3 not giving to Berger and plenty around the ground. Umpires continuously blew the tackle early every time we tackled a tiger player. Half the time they should of been holding the ball
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 10, 2013, 04:22:37 PM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/3499u1x.png)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 10, 2013, 06:47:43 PM
Spanked in free kicks again. I saw at least 3 not giving to Berger and plenty around the ground. Umpires continuously blew the tackle early every time we tackled a tiger player. Half the time they should of been holding the ball
Agree Strikes over the last couple of weeks I have been watching the effect of not being paid frees which we should have as well as dubious frees from Goals. On at least 4 occasions Brisbane should have had frees in or near the forward 50 and the ball went up the other end for goals. Also today 3 goals to Tigers as a result of dubious frees,
This free kick count against us is getting ridiculous. Berger gave 2 away for holding yet could not receive any himself despite at least 3 obvious holds.
Did not also know that the rule was changed to you could not block the third man up in ruck - that was paid twice to Richmond today.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 13, 2013, 04:33:12 PM
Moloney and Clarke gone for the year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 04:40:52 PM
Black will come back this week to replace Moloney and hopefully will stay fit for the rest of the season. Clarke will be hard to replace but rather than sending Sauce forward would leave him back and then see what Close can do forward with Paporone or Lisle. Maybe time for Voss to swallow his pride and try the Longer Berger combo for the last 3 games and see how it works. Minson in the next round will be the test.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 13, 2013, 04:49:33 PM
Just heard Voss is gone at the end of the year. Any confirmation on that?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 04:50:54 PM
Heard that rumour to trying to confirm mate - I understand the Board were not making decision until after Brisbanes commitments were finished so would be surprised if it is true atm.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
SEN Reporting it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 13, 2013, 04:52:21 PM
There is so much stuff on all the afl pages i follow on facebook. Including TripleM Footy fb page. Think it may be true.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on August 13, 2013, 04:58:34 PM
Who would have thought when the two 1996 Brownlow medalists woke up this morning, Michael Voss would have been the one losing his job? #hird
3:44pm - 13 Aug 13

From twitter he has been sacked
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 13, 2013, 05:01:21 PM
On AFL website now. I'm glad he's gone (although may depend on who the replacement is), but I'm quite shocked it's happened now, considering how well we've done since round 7 or so (whenever we beat the bombers).
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 13, 2013, 05:02:56 PM
Yeah almost reported on every news website now. I think his done but also suprised at the timing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 13, 2013, 05:03:07 PM
Paul Roos, come on down?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 05:04:32 PM
gives Zorko owners some hope :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 13, 2013, 05:06:40 PM
gives Zorko owners some hope :D

;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 13, 2013, 05:07:05 PM
This is my favourite Voss-related tweet this evening.

Robert Griffin ‏@RLGriffin85 1m

Voss is calling for a DRS REVIEW: Pitching outside leg. Impact not in line. Missing the wickets. Umpires decision. GONE! #VossAshes
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 05:07:44 PM
All over the news channels now -
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on August 13, 2013, 05:11:13 PM
Had to happen, think a lot of Lions supporters would be happy about it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 13, 2013, 05:15:25 PM
Made a thread about it, I was late to the punch, but think Voss deserves his own thread

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 05:22:28 PM
To be honest Grazz - A lot of the supporters that I talk to at the game were hopeful it would not be renewed but we were getting worried with the improved showing in beating Bombers and Cats. Expected the final announcement at end of season not prior to but starting hearing rumours about 4:00pm this afternoon.
It is also a members dinner night tonight so not the ideal time to announce. Could not afford the price tag so i am not going.
Hopefully we pull out all stocks to get Paul Roos.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 13, 2013, 05:23:51 PM
can't see zorko going in the guts with our midfield depth, barring injuries
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
apparently on Brisbane news Roos is the new coach :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 13, 2013, 05:27:31 PM
Cya Voss. Lock in Zorko, Rocky, Reddan, Hanley and Luey next year :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 05:30:53 PM
Strong rumours now that Paul Roos will be the new coach for which I am happy. Voss has also announced termination is immediate and he will not be coaching on Saturday or attending tonights Gala Ball.

Agree with strikes with the midfield depth we have even with a new coach can not see Zorko getting mid time but lock Rocky in.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: henry on August 13, 2013, 05:32:29 PM
I haven't seen much of Brisbane at all recently but from an outsider's view I get the feeling Voss is a bit stiff, he's won 5 of his last 7 and one thing noone can deny is that he's instilled a strong belief in the players, see the comebacks as evidence.

Hearing from you guys maybe he has been ordinary as coach, still not a great way to treat a favourite son. I lived in queensland for 5 years and so have a bit of a soft spot for brissie, will be interested to see who they get as a replacement. Would have to be someone experienced imo, otherwise not much point in sacking him at all.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on August 13, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
Strong rumours now that Paul Roos will be the new coach for which I am happy. Voss has also announced termination is immediate and he will not be coaching on Saturday or attending tonights Gala Ball.

Agree with strikes with the midfield depth we have even with a new coach can not see Zorko getting mid time but lock Rocky in.

Mate if you have enticed Roo's out of retirement then it's the move of the year. That will ease the pain at the dinner tonight announcing the signing of Roo's as coach.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
Henry - agree I really respect what Voss did as a player and that is deserved but he has been an ordinary coach who could not react on match days. Voss has been a coach for 5 years and to be honest some of our draft picks should be further progressed than they have and whilst this may not be totally Voss's fault he is still the Senior coach,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Windigo on August 13, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
Voss to coach Melbourne.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on August 13, 2013, 05:47:24 PM
I am shocked at this news to say the least. He's had his problems with list management and naming teams, but I've felt that we've always had a solid high risk, high reward game plan.

I really do hope we get Paul Roos in next year as coach, and we had better not end up with an untried assistant. Maybe Mark Williams could also be looking for a new job?

If Roos does come, which I think is likely, I wonder what that will mean for the game plan? Sydney was a completely different side 10 years ago to what we have now. I don't think we have the personnel to play lock down footy. Maybe Roos could at least get us a tall forward...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on August 13, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
Voss to coach Melbourne.  :P

Man the life boats. :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
Strong rumours now that Paul Roos will be the new coach for which I am happy. Voss has also announced termination is immediate and he will not be coaching on Saturday or attending tonights Gala Ball.

Agree with strikes with the midfield depth we have even with a new coach can not see Zorko getting mid time but lock Rocky in.

Mate if you have enticed Roo's out of retirement then it's the move of the year. That will ease the pain at the dinner tonight announcing the signing of Roo's as coach.
Hoping so Grazz especially with Roos being a true Fitzroy boy as well. Other rumour is Matthews may return but I think that would be a backward move.  Mark Harvey apparently will coach on Saturday night,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on August 13, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
Strong rumours now that Paul Roos will be the new coach for which I am happy. Voss has also announced termination is immediate and he will not be coaching on Saturday or attending tonights Gala Ball.

Agree with strikes with the midfield depth we have even with a new coach can not see Zorko getting mid time but lock Rocky in.

Mate if you have enticed Roo's out of retirement then it's the move of the year. That will ease the pain at the dinner tonight announcing the signing of Roo's as coach.
Hoping so Grazz especially with Roos being a true Fitzroy boy as well. Other rumour is Matthews may return but I think that would be a backward move.  Mark Harvey apparently will coach on Saturday night,
Going back to Matthews, wow that would be a mistake :o

Harvey will definitely be caretaker coach for the rest of the season. Don't think he would be interested in the top job?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 13, 2013, 05:58:05 PM
Brad Scott will come to the Lions :P Should help Brisbane getting good starts... ::)  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 06:05:06 PM
Brad Scott will come to the Lions :P Should help Brisbane getting good starts... ::)  :P
but will allow us to fade out in last quarter,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Dudge on August 13, 2013, 06:11:40 PM
Hope for everyones sake, it doesn't cause bad blood between Vossy and the club. Not talking d/t revellence, but premierships/ captaincy as such
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 06:16:26 PM
Hope for everyones sake, it doesn't cause bad blood between Vossy and the club. Not talking d/t revellence, but premiersnips/ casptancy as such
Can not see it Dudge as most members think like I am in that he was a great player but an ordinary coach. Will always be respected by the club unless he himself distances them similar to Bradshaw and Risko after the Fevola affair. . 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 13, 2013, 06:28:40 PM
I think it's a bit amateurish sacking him now. why not wait 3 weeks. all this does is disrupt the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 13, 2013, 06:31:42 PM
I think it's a bit amateurish sacking him now. why not wait 3 weeks. all this does is disrupt the rest of the season.
Clearly the board thought that it wasn't fair that Essendon got so much attention from the media.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
I think it's a bit amateurish sacking him now. why not wait 3 weeks. all this does is disrupt the rest of the season.
Clearly the board thought that it wasn't fair that Essendon got so much attention from the media.
Only thing  could possibly think of is that they have a new coach lined up and want to pout it out there early.  If this is not the case then the whole board should be accountable at AGM.  Bear in mind tonight is also the Gala Ball so there will be a nice pall over that. Very amateurish from them if not.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 06:47:25 PM
In case you are not aware Voss had certain Key Performance indicators he had to achieve this year and I suspect that he has not achieved as despite the latest results we are not that much further up the ladder. Further press conferences will be held tomorrow.
If the Board can not give a decent reason as to why sacking was announced today and not wait till season end then they should be held accountable at the AGM.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-13/lions-dump-voss
 This is the really telling statistic from the article
"Their best finish since 2009 has been 13th. Voss has a 40 per cent winning record as coach."


Official News conference scheduled for midday tomorrow.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 13, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
Surprised..... But only matter of Time
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on August 13, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
Im wondering if player retention wasn't a factor in the timing of his demise with a few players still unsigned and unhappy.
40% winning ratio is better than I could do so I wont be critical there but from an outsider looking in I think it was always coming and probably for the better he goes. Timing is a bit odd but we all may be the wiser tomorrow after the press conference as to why now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 07:26:57 PM
So is it confirmed he's not coaching for the rest of the season?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-08-13/brisbane-lions-senior-coach-

Voss, in his fifth year as Lions coach was off-contract at the end of this season. Voss notified the Club that he would stand down from the role effective immediately.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on August 13, 2013, 07:38:13 PM
Copy and paste sometimes struggles on here, but basically yep Voss told the club he won't coach out the year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 07:46:21 PM
Hearing Mark Harvey will coach for rest of the season
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 13, 2013, 08:19:10 PM
Hey Lions supporters,

You guys got GWS this week and I am confident you will win but would like to know who you reckon will go to who in terms of tagging. Will Rocky handle his tag if he gets one at all, I am wondering if he is still a solid captaincy option despite my rule of never captaining blokes vs GWS.

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 13, 2013, 08:26:04 PM
I think they would tag Rich, Hanley and Zorko maybe
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 13, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
Rockliff got tagged over Rich on the weekend but to be fair it was a very loose one from Jackson, only stood him tightly during the stoppages
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BratPack on August 14, 2013, 02:54:09 AM
In a funny sort of way it would be good to have say he wasn't interested in coaching when the Melbourne gig came up only for him to coach Brisbane  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 14, 2013, 05:02:04 AM
Some fans really don't know much about the game :o

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-13/lions-chairman-heckled (http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-13/lions-chairman-heckled)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 14, 2013, 06:16:46 AM
Think the heckling was more to due with the timing of the announcement rather than the fact he has been sacked.  I would have heckled as well unless a good reason could be given making an announcement 3 games before the end of the season. Whilst I agree with the decision am not satisfied with timing so really awaiting todays press conferences. Am also concerned if decision was made why did the club allow him to front yesterdays morning press conference.
Contract according to all information was to be finalised at end of season and that was when the decision was to be made.
Maybe the Board chose the timing to coincide with Essendons announcements to deflect some heat. The other possible feasible explanation is the Board made the decision at their regular meeting and to prevent leaks decided to immediately tell players and the coach hence the 3.30 meeting yesterday afternoon. The article says that Voss was told he could coach till end of year but declined.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 14, 2013, 07:01:28 AM
Hey Lions supporters,

You guys got GWS this week and I am confident you will win but would like to know who you reckon will go to who in terms of tagging. Will Rocky handle his tag if he gets one at all, I am wondering if he is still a solid captaincy option despite my rule of never captaining blokes vs GWS.

Cheers :)
Black will be back this week end as well so the Tags will go to Black and Rich first then Hanley or Rocky.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 14, 2013, 07:19:51 AM

Brisbane next year face the likelihood of no Voss, Brown or Black...

Officially a new era from next year if they have a new coach, new captain and (I think) no premiership players left....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Windigo on August 14, 2013, 08:12:17 AM
Who will be captain nek year if Brown retires?

Adcock?
Rocky?
Rich?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on August 14, 2013, 09:12:17 AM
Will be interesting to see if this changes the minds of players reportedly wanting a trade out; Longer, Karnezis, Polec, Docherty, etc.


Brisbane next year face the likelihood of no Voss, Brown or Black...

Officially a new era from next year if they have a new coach, new captain and (I think) no premiership players left....
Ash McGrath is a premiership player, will depend if he goes around again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 14, 2013, 12:39:14 PM
Ash Mc Grath was a member of the 2003 premiership team and from memory Daniel Merret was an emergency but did not play.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 14, 2013, 12:55:48 PM
Who will be captain nek year if Brown retires?

Adcock?
Rocky?
Rich?

Here is the official statement from the Board

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-08-14/message-from-the-chairman

It would appear from the statement and media conference that the decision was made not to renew Voss's contract and that decision was announced quickly after the decision made to prevent leaks and hose down any speculation.

The statement also goes on to say that that no firm decision on new coach has been made and we wait for official announcement although Roos may be the favourite if he decides to apply.

regarding Captaincy Adcock is the current co- captain with Brown and rich and Rocky vice captains. Decision obviously will be up to club and new coach but suspect Adcock will become Captain with Rich and Rocky retaining VC. Brown may continue for another year though so co captaincy will continue.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 14, 2013, 01:40:59 PM
Was very impressed with both Voss and the Chairman at the press conference today.

New coach may not be cut and dried,

Number of players have taken to twitter to thank Voss and none were aware of the decision until yesterdays 3:30pm meeting which shocked all.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on August 14, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
Was very impressed with both Voss and the Chairman at the press conference today.

New coach may not be cut and dried,

Number of players have taken to twitter to thank Voss and none were aware of the decision until yesterdays 3:30pm meeting which shocked all.

I Thought Vossy was pretty classy today Ringo, obviously upset by the decision as more than half life has been invested in the Lions roughly. Always been respected by myself, didn't really rate him as a coach from the outside looking in. Although a 40% winning record isn't ordinary considering, drafting early days wasn't great and set him back a year or two. Still think he should of gone away from the Lions and learnt his trade then return when all his team mates had retired, hindsight is a lovely thing.

The other thing I took from the conference like yourself was maybe the new coach isn't cut and dry. Timing wasn't great for the sacking but's it's understandable to me as a non supporter, they have Harvey and other quality people as caretakers for now but most of all need to be in there looking for a coach  if there is any chance Roos can be enticed and atleast be in there pitching with Melbourne for any other available coach should Roos not want the job.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 14, 2013, 02:16:07 PM
Wonder how Harvey feels about it all
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on August 14, 2013, 02:52:25 PM
Wonder how Harvey feels about it all

Wouldn't surprise me if he always had it in the back of his mind that he might coach the Lions one day.... not actively seeking it, but biding his time....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 14, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
Reckon Gold Coast would be highly interested in Voss as an assistant but he might want to get out of that state
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 14, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
Wonder how Harvey feels about it all

Wouldn't surprise me if he always had it in the back of his mind that he might coach the Lions one day.... not actively seeking it, but biding his time....
This is the unknown factor - how many of the existing assistant coaches will keep their jobs under a new coach. Think Harvey may go if a different coach appointed -  For those that are not aware Brisbane Coaching structure under Voss:
Mark Harvey - Football & Coaching Strategist
Gary O'Donnell - Innovation & Development Manager
Adrian Fletcher - Assistant Coach
Shane Woewodin - Assistant Coach
Murray Davis - Assistant Coach
Jamie Charman - Ruck Coach
Leigh Harding - Development Coach and Reserves Coach
The club has also committed to increasing funding to this area to match other teams.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 14, 2013, 04:15:45 PM
Who will be captain nek year if Brown retires?

Adcock?
Rocky?
Rich?
Adcock is co captain with Brown this year. You'd think he'll be captain after Brown retires
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 15, 2013, 08:40:05 AM
Not sure whether I agree with the latest development in the coaching saga - Reports are that coach will be appointed for 2/3 years with one of their main responsibilities to mentor the yet to be appointed assistant coach to take over at conclusion. This is similar what Roos did for Longmire at Swans so if that is to be so be it. If Roos does not accept or be lured suspect this may fall to Harvey unless Eade or Choco can be enticed north.

Names initially being mentioned for the assistant coach role are Justin Leppitsch and Adam Simpson but others may come to light.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 15, 2013, 08:47:14 AM
Roos to Eagles, Worsfold to Brissie  ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 06:59:10 PM
Surely Roosy wouldn't coach the Eagles after our rivalry against them when he was coaching the Swans!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 15, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
Thoughts on our team this week.

Bit surprised with the inclusion of McGrath and surprised to see him named on ground.  With Clarke being out expected Merrett to revert back and either Lisle or Cornelius to come in up front. Sub I think will rest between Bewick and Docherty although Lester has been subbed as well previously. Suspect maybe Docherty.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 15, 2013, 08:40:24 PM
glad bewick is back
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 15, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
You guys confident about 100+ win this week?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on August 15, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
glad bewick is back
From an outsiders point of view I'm really surprised he's been dropped so many times this year as the games I've seen he's played well.

But I guess that issue has been done to death in this thread  ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 15, 2013, 10:35:10 PM
You guys confident about 100+ win this week?

got no idea what might happen on saturday
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 16, 2013, 07:25:18 AM
Would not be confident of 100+ win basically because of the unexpected timing of the announcement of Voss's sacking which may effect some players physcie.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 16, 2013, 03:03:32 PM
anyone read the article about rockliff and voss having a fall out ? Rocky denies it but I reckon it was there. this was my favourite part of the article

Quote
"I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't have the tough conversations with him and he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't have the tough conversations with me.

"Our conversations were always in the best interests of the footy club moving forward

Quote
It is believed the list of "robust discussions" included Rockliff's mid-season shift to the forward line when the Lions were struggling for numbers.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 16, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
I have read and re read Strikes trying to work out and think it may be more to do with how Voss related to players rather than a falling out. Will really be interestesd to see the game tomorrow night and how the players mental state is.  If Voss was still coaching would have no concerns but we now have the unknown.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 17, 2013, 10:13:42 PM
Horrible match. Didn't like some of the players attitudes at all. Especially golly and redden
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 19, 2013, 11:41:44 AM
Some interesting aspects to come out of the game:

Mayes will be a star of the future. Will help take the pressure of both Rich and Reddan with tags. 
Rich started to show what he can do if he can shake tags. He was tagged by Whiley and will face much sterner tests.
Zorko can be used in bursts through the midfield. Great to see him increase his tackling pressure as well. made a great chase and tackle in the 4th quarter.
Docherty continues to improve and should now have sown up a Half back spot.

Agree with Strikes that Golby looked disinterested whether he was effected by the weeks events, a bit out of it coming back from suspension do not know, but Harwood showed a lot more than him on Saturday night. Do not agree with Reddan though it was just that the ball was not following him. He did lay quite a few strong tackles.

We still need a forward presence up front - Whilst Merret played there on Saturday Night he was still double teamed similar to Brown so we need to make sure we have other targets next year. Maybe the new coach will warm to the idea of playing 2 rucks with one a resting forward.

Umpires need to get use of Video review system correct - Whilst no effecting game a kick of the Ground from Merrett clearly missed the behind post and was awarded a point and a Josh Green kick appeared to graze the Goal post but was not referred. Surely in both of these cases there should have been enough doubt to refer.

Lastly after 10 weeks we finally won a free kick count although umps did their best to even it up in last quarter.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 19, 2013, 04:25:44 PM
blackys been done by the mrp for a hit on ward. i thought it was ash mcgrath but anyway. could of been his last game in brisbane
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 19, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
Yes Strikes could not believe they cited Black out of that - Was a bit far away from the Melee though to see who hit who. Ward was niggling Black all night though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 20, 2013, 06:12:01 PM
with black and moloney out with possibly the irishman who comes into the guts for the week, wouldn't mind to see some fresh blood in there with close ? My team for the dogs match

Adcock - MaGuire - Yeo
Harwood - Patful - Golby
Mayes - Polec - Redden
Zorko - Lisle - Close
Green - Merrett - Staker
Berger - Rockliff - Rich
Docherty - Raines - Lester

Bewick
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 20, 2013, 08:14:23 PM
Not a bad team Strikes Like the selection of Close
Would also consider possibly replacing Lester with Longer and trialling the dual rucks. Berger is very agile and a straight kick so would be useful as resting ruckman forward.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 21, 2013, 05:38:31 AM
I also agree with the team strikes, but where's Hanley? Polec out for him maybe? I also like the inclusion of Close. But I can't really see it happening :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 23, 2013, 04:20:06 PM
Surprised that Paparone got the nod over Lisle - Lisle has been the better player in the NEAFL. May still get a call up if Hanley a late out.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 24, 2013, 04:23:32 PM
Paparone should be the sub right guys? would be harsh making Lester the sub two weeks in a row stressing me out in my BXV prelim lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 24, 2013, 05:03:51 PM
Sorry KB Bewick or Lester will be sub imo.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 25, 2013, 07:41:17 PM
We are still a chance of making the 8 :) if the dons get stripped of points, we beat Geelong and Port beat Carlton, We're in :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 25, 2013, 07:58:02 PM
We are still a chance of making the 8 :) if the dons get stripped of points, we beat Geelong and Port beat Carlton, We're in :D

highly unlikely you'll beat the Cats at Simonds but it is positive signs for the future at least.

stoked you guys won today, has put me as equal leader of the tipping comp i'm in. good show 8)
 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 25, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
But with Geelong unable to improve position unless Sydney beat hawthorn will we see some resting by Cats next week increasing Lions chances.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on August 25, 2013, 08:21:03 PM
yeah it might increase your chances a bit but i just can't see it happening. good luck though, it'd be a great win
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 30, 2013, 05:09:24 AM
Sam Michael!!!!!!! Watch him dominate ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 02, 2013, 04:48:17 PM
NO LUCK FOR LIONS

Brisbane can count itself unlucky it didn't pull off the upset of the season at Skilled Stadium.

The big question after the game was: Should Chappy have been pinged?

After a ball-up 12m out from the Lions goal with 20sec left and the visitors trailing by two points, Chapman dived on the loose ball and was immediately set upon by Lions forwards.

He didn't get it out and the ump quickly called for a bounce, although the play seemed to tick all the boxes for holding the ball.

Brisbane was on the wrong end of another questionable call late in the third quarter, when Tom Lonergan was awarded a mark despite coming over the back of Jordan Lisle, who clearly had two mitts around the Sherrin.

Travis Varcoe kicked a brilliant goal from the resulting play to give the Cats a six-point lead.

Read more: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/if-you-dont-mind-umpire-the-most-controversial-umpiring-calls-of-afl-round-22/story-fndv8os9-1226704162089#ixzz2dicyMLqi

McBurnie called both decisions i'm pretty sure. i'll be filthy if he umps another game in his life.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 02, 2013, 06:15:21 PM
That was holding the ball every single day of the week if it wasn't in the last minute of a game that would be decided by the decision.

Umpires never pay those ones because they don't have the guts to make an important decision to decide a game, because if they get it wrong, it could cost them.

That decision was an absolute disgrace. Chapman dives on it, drags it in, and umpire pays ball up after 1 second? Clearly the wrong decision.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 02, 2013, 06:18:05 PM
I had reservations we would be on the receiving end of some bad decisions when McBurnie was named as one of the umpires. We never win a free kick count when McBurnie umpires us and I think it dates back to our three peat,
 
I do not want McBurnie to ever umpire a Lions game again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on September 02, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
Ringo McBurnie is a crap ump anyway I cringe when I see him named as ump for Eagles games
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 02, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
I was trying to be polite Luv but could use very strong words to describe my opinion of him. He seems to be more interested in getting himself in the Media than making right decisions a real show pony.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on September 02, 2013, 06:44:09 PM
Lol
Don't be polite Ringo just let it out I really have the opinion that he doesn't like the non Vic clubs
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Dudge on September 02, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
It's sad when " certain umps, can change results" through pressure or just blatant bad calls. Problem is, it happens  way to often. Just imagine (I realise it's impossible ) if every decision was correct, what a different premiership table we'd have
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2013, 06:49:11 PM
Let's just say that McBurnie is extremely lucky I wasn't able to attend the match on Saturday. He would not have lasted long enough to see the sun go down if I was there.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 02, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
retiring at seasons end. good
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2013, 07:33:14 AM
Let's just say that McBurnie is extremely lucky I wasn't able to attend the match on Saturday. He would not have lasted long enough to see the sun go down if I was there.
You would have had to stand in line  ;) ;)
many times at the Gabba I have wanted to pelt something at him as he left the field but restrained. A couple of times even think the fine would be worth it but being banned as well was the deterrent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on September 03, 2013, 11:20:15 AM
I've disliked McBurney for a long time (ask my wife  ;) ). I accept that umpries make mistakes however the thing that annoyed me about him was that he always wanted the game to be about him (like Razor Ray). Always paying soft frees just so everyone knew here was there.

Has Gieschen come out and said the Chapman decision was wrong?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 14, 2013, 07:00:06 PM
Brown and black to go around again. Fantastic news
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 14, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
Thats great news for you boys. To have those leaders on the park to develop your kids will be huge for another year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on September 14, 2013, 08:52:51 PM
Thats great news for you boys. To have those leaders on the park to develop your kids will be huge for another year
Now they just need to keep all of those kids as well  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 14, 2013, 09:02:54 PM
Thats great news for you boys. To have those leaders on the park to develop your kids will be huge for another year
Now they just need to keep all of those kids as well  :P
That is true
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 14, 2013, 09:34:12 PM
From what I read it's that they WANT to go another year, not necessarily that they are. Article basically says that it's entirely dependent on the coach (whoever that may be). So if our new coach wants them on the field, they'll play on, if he doesn't, then flower him  :P

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-09-14/brown-keen-to-play-on
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 14, 2013, 09:51:39 PM
From what I read it's that they WANT to go another year, not necessarily that they are. Article basically says that it's entirely dependent on the coach (whoever that may be). So if our new coach wants them on the field, they'll play on, if he doesn't, then flower him  :P

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-09-14/brown-keen-to-play-on

Lol as if they wouldn't want them to play one more.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2013, 09:53:36 PM
From what I read it's that they WANT to go another year, not necessarily that they are. Article basically says that it's entirely dependent on the coach (whoever that may be). So if our new coach wants them on the field, they'll play on, if he doesn't, then flower him  :P

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-09-14/brown-keen-to-play-on

Lol as if they wouldn't want them to play one more.

Yeah, I thought the same. Fantastic servants of the club for years, and they want to go on, why not let them go around once more?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 14, 2013, 10:20:18 PM
From what I read it's that they WANT to go another year, not necessarily that they are. Article basically says that it's entirely dependent on the coach (whoever that may be). So if our new coach wants them on the field, they'll play on, if he doesn't, then flower him  :P

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-09-14/brown-keen-to-play-on

Lol as if they wouldn't want them to play one more.

Yeah, I thought the same. Fantastic servants of the club for years, and they want to go on, why not let them go around once more?
I think Brown will be a certainty to play, but Black's body may not be able to last the season (only played 8 games this year I think?), so I guess there's that small chance that the new coach may decide it's better for Black to not continue in order to give our younger players more games. Of course I would rather that Black plays on as well, but there is that chance.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 15, 2013, 05:30:58 AM
From what I read it's that they WANT to go another year, not necessarily that they are. Article basically says that it's entirely dependent on the coach (whoever that may be). So if our new coach wants them on the field, they'll play on, if he doesn't, then flower him  :P

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-09-14/brown-keen-to-play-on

Lol as if they wouldn't want them to play one more.

Yeah, I thought the same. Fantastic servants of the club for years, and they want to go on, why not let them go around once more?
I think Brown will be a certainty to play, but Black's body may not be able to last the season (only played 8 games this year I think?), so I guess there's that small chance that the new coach may decide it's better for Black to not continue in order to give our younger players more games. Of course I would rather that Black plays on as well, but there is that chance.
He (Black) may as well play again. Didnt he just have surgery?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 15, 2013, 06:44:31 AM
Both players have had early clean up surgery in preparation for a possible return next season. Think Brown would be a certainty to play on regardless of who the coach is.  Both have a few Personal Goals they still want to achieve and I would love to see both play on for one more year.

Black if he retires will be sounded out to succeed Paul Roos at the Sydney Academy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 15, 2013, 11:03:36 AM
If black gets the body right then he is one of our best players still. the matches he played he did really well
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 15, 2013, 12:06:53 PM
The reserves game starts soon. It will be streamed here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j5pFR8ZqI4)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 18, 2013, 05:22:13 PM
Yeo apparently had a meeting with west coast
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 19, 2013, 04:18:16 PM
Reports today that Yeo has requested a trade out of the club.....

Hopefully we can keep Docherty if that is the case. Yeo was the one out of the 5 who supposedly want out that I really wanted to keep, and thought we could keep. Shame that all this young talent wants to leave. At least we should get some decent compensation if they all end up going.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 19, 2013, 08:03:27 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-19/yeo-wants-to-go

Article stating that Yeo wants out as well.

Tweet from Lions that is encouraging but if Yeo still wants to go home then we should be seeking the best deal for him.  Let him go back to WA but we pick the club that gives us the best deal if it be Dockers so be it although he wants eagles.  We should not allow these draft picks to nominate club of choice we should play a little bit hard as well.

"National Talent Manager Rob Kerr says despite Elliott Yeo expressing his desire to head home to WA, we regard him as a required player. Kerr said "We value Elliott highly as both a player and a person, and as such, we will be focused on retaining his services."

Same should apply to both Polec, Docherty, Polkinghorne, Longer and Karnezis as well in that we take the best offer for them from Adelaide and Melbourne clubs.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 20, 2013, 05:41:14 AM
Why not...

Yeo for 1st round pick
Docherty for 1st round pick
Longer for 1st round pick
Karnezis for 1st round pick

We could have 5 first round picks :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 20, 2013, 07:33:43 AM
Why not...

Yeo for 1st round pick
Docherty for 1st round pick
Longer for 1st round pick
Karnezis for 1st round pick

We could have 5 first round picks :o

Picks picks everywhere but not a coach to choose them :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2013, 07:40:39 AM
Why not...

Yeo for 1st round pick
Docherty for 1st round pick
Longer for 1st round pick
Karnezis for 1st round pick

We could have 5 first round picks :o

Picks picks everywhere but not a coach to choose them :P
Anticipate coach being appointed within next 2 weeks prior to trading period.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on September 20, 2013, 09:34:50 AM
Why not...

Yeo for 1st round pick
Docherty for 1st round pick
Longer for 1st round pick
Karnezis for 1st round pick

We could have 5 first round picks :o

Then just on trade 3 these for say... Daisy, Dusty, Buddy, ...all good... ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 20, 2013, 10:00:21 AM
Why not...

Yeo for 1st round pick
Docherty for 1st round pick
Longer for 1st round pick
Karnezis for 1st round pick

We could have 5 first round picks :o
While we should get a first round pick for Polec and Longer, I think Yeo, Docherty and Karnezis will only attract second round picks each. Still, they will be valuable and we can probably ontrade a few of them.

Does anyone think we should go after free agent Colin Syliva?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2013, 10:27:44 AM
Why not...

Yeo for 1st round pick
Docherty for 1st round pick
Longer for 1st round pick
Karnezis for 1st round pick

We could have 5 first round picks :o
While we should get a first round pick for Polec and Longer, I think Yeo, Docherty and Karnezis will only attract second round picks each. Still, they will be valuable and we can probably ontrade a few of them.

Does anyone think we should go after free agent Colin Syliva?
Was in the back of my mind BB. Only issue is where would you play him as he is only 186cms so you would be using him to replace Green or Zorko forward.  Can not see him fitting in the mids with who we have.

Also I think we should be in the market for Buddy with Longer looking to go to hawthorn.  Longer plus 1st Round pick for Buddy I would be happy with. Nice forward line for next year with Brown playing on.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 20, 2013, 10:46:20 AM
Why not...

Yeo for 1st round pick
Docherty for 1st round pick
Longer for 1st round pick
Karnezis for 1st round pick

We could have 5 first round picks :o
While we should get a first round pick for Polec and Longer, I think Yeo, Docherty and Karnezis will only attract second round picks each. Still, they will be valuable and we can probably ontrade a few of them.

Does anyone think we should go after free agent Colin Syliva?
Was in the back of my mind BB. Only issue is where would you play him as he is only 186cms so you would be using him to replace Green or Zorko forward.  Can not see him fitting in the mids with who we have.

Also I think we should be in the market for Buddy with Longer looking to go to hawthorn.  Longer plus 1st Round pick for Buddy I would be happy with. Nice forward line for next year with Brown playing on.
I can't see anyone actually trading to get Buddy. If you wanted him, wouldn't you just get him through free agency? You don't gain anything by trading to get him. Even if you trade, he still has to decide whether or not he wants to go, and if he wants to go to the Giants or the Lions they would just pick him up through free agency free of charge.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
Point taken BB forgot he was on the free agency list.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2013, 01:44:01 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-09-20/afl-lions-board-to-meet

Further developments in the Board Split with the AFL calling a meeting between both parties in an attempt to resolve.  Just hope Johnson sees the club as more important than his own ego,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 23, 2013, 10:46:25 PM
Massive effort from rocky. 21 votes =s a fantastic year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 23, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
If only he played the whole year in the middle. Well done Rocky you gun :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2013, 07:38:14 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2013, 08:19:17 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!
Very very tempting
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!
Very very tempting
Rocky, Hanners and Danger to fight out 2014 Brownlow would be a great sight,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2013, 09:45:08 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!
Very very tempting
Rocky, Hanners and Danger to fight out 2014 Brownlow would be a great sight,
With Gaz and Jelwood!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 24, 2013, 09:47:16 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2013, 09:48:45 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2013, 09:51:31 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2013, 09:53:08 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Why would you put money on someone this early? ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on September 24, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Why would you put money on someone this early? ???
Better odds ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2013, 09:55:24 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Why would you put money on someone this early? ???
Better odds ;)
True
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2013, 09:55:45 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Yeh but $51... I could see him at $15 for that reason but not $51. Franklin is $26, is the same risk and SJ would poll heaps better than him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2013, 09:58:00 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Why would you put money on someone this early? ???
You jump on value picks now. Then during the year they should come in shorter, while the favourites push out to better odds. Then you jump on the favourites to cover yourself and you should make a profit no matter what. That is the theory of it anyway. Anything can happen
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2013, 09:58:24 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Yeh but $51... I could see him at $15 for that reason but not $51. Franklin is $26, is the same risk and SJ would poll heaps better than him
Anyone who puts money on Buddy to win the Brownlow is either A. Stupid or B. Knows nothing about the game and Buddy is just a name they've heard before.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2013, 10:08:04 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Yeh but $51... I could see him at $15 for that reason but not $51. Franklin is $26, is the same risk and SJ would poll heaps better than him
Anyone who puts money on Buddy to win the Brownlow is either A. Stupid or B. Knows nothing about the game and Buddy is just a name they've heard before.
He was only 4 votes off a Brownlow in 2008 :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2013, 10:09:39 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???
But you run the risk of him doing something stupid and getting suspended for a week.
Yeh but $51... I could see him at $15 for that reason but not $51. Franklin is $26, is the same risk and SJ would poll heaps better than him
Anyone who puts money on Buddy to win the Brownlow is either A. Stupid or B. Knows nothing about the game and Buddy is just a name they've heard before.
He was only 4 votes off a Brownlow in 2008 :o
Really :o lol. Well he's not as good as he was back then :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 24, 2013, 10:10:35 AM
Sneak peak at the 2014 Brownlow night :P

(http://i39.tinypic.com/bfp3lk.png)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 24, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???

nah, had an amazing year and still couldnt win. too many guns at gellong and as of said suspension worry.

For me rocky is a clear number 1 at the club in terms of polling votes.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 24, 2013, 10:25:37 AM
Also think Cotchin @15.00 is very decent value considering he polled 26 last year and 19 this year when he struggled with a knee injury for 3 quarters of the year, rolled ankle at the start of the year which affected 2 or so games and a subbed game at the end of the year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 24, 2013, 10:48:07 AM
Do it! :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Holz on September 24, 2013, 11:15:50 AM
Also think Cotchin @15.00 is very decent value considering he polled 26 last year and 19 this year when he struggled with a knee injury for 3 quarters of the year, rolled ankle at the start of the year which affected 2 or so games and a subbed game at the end of the year

exactly what i thought. Cotchin and Rocky pretty decent odds.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 24, 2013, 12:39:54 PM

New coach?

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/justin-leppitsch-to-coach-brisbane-lions-20130924-2uba6.html?google_editors_picks=true
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 24, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
We'll miss ya Leppa!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2013, 01:04:34 PM
Was always on the cards if we did not get craig first with succession.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 24, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
Leppitsch sounds like a decent coach. At least he has gone and learnt how to coach being an assistant first unlike Voss.

Also, it appears that Heath Shaw is now on the trade market. Karnezis and Docherty have both expressed interest in moving to Collingwood haven't they? A move north for Shaw would be good I'd think, get him out of the spotlight.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
Not sure that I want Shaw at Brisbane but will wait and see. Shaw has only 2 years contract to run at most but would rather get youngsters especially if we are losing Docherty and Yeo. .

Looks like coach announcement will be made in Melbourne tomorrow.

Michael Whiting ‏@AFL_mikewhiting 2h
Few things to sort out yet so Lions will officially announce Leppitsch as coach in Melbourne tomorrow #afl #lions

Board issue still not sorted to date at AFL mediation I hear,  so that is why announcement will be possibly in Melbourne
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 24, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
Sneak peak at the 2014 Brownlow night :P

(http://i39.tinypic.com/bfp3lk.png)
HAHAHA YES!  ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 28, 2013, 02:54:48 PM
Isn't it sad that Brisbane could beat Freo in the way that they're playing atm.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 28, 2013, 02:57:34 PM
Isn't it sad that Brisbane could beat Freo in the way that they're playing atm.

Hey settle down NRich..Freo have been bad but not that bad... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 01, 2013, 03:52:49 PM
should put a offer in for buddy, is there a thought he may have doubts over signing a 9 year contract ? is that even right
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2013, 03:55:40 PM
should put a offer in for buddy, is there a thought he may have doubts over signing a 9 year contract ? is that even right

Offer him a 10 year contract, it'll lure him for sure!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 04, 2013, 01:14:51 AM
Roky for 2014 Brownlow!

thinknig of dropping a sneaky $10 at $41.
SJ at $51  ???

nah, had an amazing year and still couldnt win. too many guns at gellong and as of said suspension worry.

For me rocky is a clear number 1 at the club in terms of polling votes.

SJ missed what 6 games throughout the year yet was 3-4 votes off winning.

He would have won if he wasn't so dumb :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2013, 09:27:54 AM
Lions showing interest in Luke McDonald which might force Norf to use their first rounder.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: _wato on October 04, 2013, 09:37:30 AM
Lions showing interest in Luke McDonald which might force Norf to use their first rounder.

You'd expect they would anyway you would've thought. Top 5 pick IMO, very good get at #8.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2013, 10:28:23 AM
Would expect West Coast or Brisbane to show interest as he is possibly a Top 10 pick.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on October 04, 2013, 10:30:49 AM
Any sign of things settling at the Lions den Ringo? Appears to be a fair bit of coverage about changes there. Is it really as bad as it sounds?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2013, 10:42:33 AM
Would expect West Coast or Brisbane to show interest as he is possibly a Top 10 pick.

Better than that, top 5. The only thing but the clubs with the first 5 picks in this year's draft don't really need him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2013, 12:19:49 PM
Any sign of things settling at the Lions den Ringo? Appears to be a fair bit of coverage about changes there. Is it really as bad as it sounds?
Like any club in a bit of Turmoil Tdog takes a while to settle - Interesting heard the interview concerning Yeo and it was only when he went home and realised he was missing his mates did he decide to request the transfer. This is what we face in Qld where AFL is the lesser sport as it is not saturation coverage. When you are not winning games go home factor is a real issue and that is something we have to work at.

Hopefully last piece of jigsaw wil be sorted when board issue is resolved in the next week,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2013, 12:27:03 PM
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BREAKING: Luke MGuane has walked out of Richmond in the hope of joining the Lions as an unrestricted free agent (via @AFL_Nick)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 04, 2013, 12:33:52 PM
Some are saying Brissie have been chasing McGuane for a while
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 04, 2013, 12:39:43 PM
Some are saying Brissie have been chasing McGuane for a while

They have, he was linked with a move home for the past two seasons I do believe.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 04, 2013, 03:28:38 PM
Finally some good news on the young players front with Justin Clarke about to sign a 3 year deal. Probably thought with Yeo and possibly Docherty gone will get a lot more opportunities.  Looked good down back in games played prior to his injury and has that bit of aggression. Really pleased,

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-04/lion-clarke-to-buck-trend

Regarding McGuane he was always a possibility of returning home.  His father lost the sight in his eye in a work place incident a year or so ago so that would have helped sway the decision. Do not mind this either especially as a free agent meaning it is not costing us. Will be an ideal replacement for Karnezis.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 05, 2013, 09:34:53 AM
So it looks like we will be getting McGuane. I think he plays as a decent second or third tall forward, so he could fit in well.

Also reports that we are going after Shane Savage, and that he could be involved in a deal with Billy Longer. Do we really need another small forward though? I think we have enough already with Zorko, Green, Banfield and McGrath.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 05, 2013, 09:48:04 AM
So it looks like we will be getting McGuane. I think he plays as a decent second or third tall forward, so he could fit in well.

Also reports that we are going after Shane Savage, and that he could be involved in a deal with Billy Longer. Do we really need another small forward though? I think we have enough already with Zorko, Green, Banfield and McGrath.

Savage plays as a mid as well.

And let's be honest, Ash McGrath probably only has a year or two at the most left in him and Banfield's not that good.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2013, 10:01:25 AM
Agree KB Savage would be an overkill although hearing rumours Banfield may want to go to WA. McGrath may revert to the running defender role again if we lose both Docherty and Yeo so Savage may add a little depth but can not see him in our best 22 atm.


Little surprised we nominated Johnathan Freeman as our academy list rather than Archie Smith given we may lose Longer.

Assuming we lose all the go home players this would be my best 22 not allowing for trades yet to be made

Merrett   Maguire Patfull
Golby Clarke Adcock
Rich Rockliff Hanley
Green Mayes Zorko
Lisle Brown McGuane
Berger Reddan Moloney
Martin Black/Harwood Raines Beams/McGrath

Paparone, Bewick, Lester, Michael Close and Nick Hayes also possible bench players, Staker will also come in if he stays which is more than likely and would take McGuanes place. Martin is named as ruck back up and hoping he can find form with reduction of interchange. Close has really been impressive and would deserve a chance if Black retires.  Can not split Beams or McGrath for final bench spot.If we target Savage would be looking at bench position at best in our 22.

Edited to reflect Adcock our Captain who I forgot  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 05, 2013, 10:25:51 AM
Oi, hands off Savage Brissie boys ;)

What are the chances of Blacky retiring fellas?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 05, 2013, 10:42:36 AM
I hope and reckon he'll get one final year under old mate Leppa.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2013, 10:43:38 AM
If he still has the desire to play and fits in with Leppas plans can see him playing games next year.  He has also indicated he wants to take on a coaching role when he finishes playing but whether that is in Brisbane or WA remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 05, 2013, 10:45:11 AM
That 22 looks decent. Hopefully we can add to it with a couple more players or picks that we get from trading.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 05, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
I disagree with some of the selections you have there Ringo. This is how I see it

Clarke Merrett Patfull
Golby Maguire  Adcock
Rich Rockliff Hanley
Green Mayes Zorko
Lisle Brown McGuane
Berger Reddan Moloney
Michael Black Raines Beams/McGrath/Paparone/Harwood/Staker (would rather Beams/Harwood)

I think Close is still  a year off, his numbers in the NEAFL were quite low. Surprised you forgot about Adcock :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
Missed Adcock all together (was at top of list starting with A but off the screen) Adcock instead of Harwood obviously in that team.
Know you have a man crush on Sammy but he still has a bit of filling out to do imo so maybe still a year off to get a full season.  Seen a couple of NEAFL games as well and he really needs to polish up his kicking as well. With Longer going though may develop more quickly, That is why I had Martin over him at this stage obviously it is Longer if we can retain him.

have also amended team post to reflect Adcock
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 05, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
I see what your getting at ringo, but I dont like Martin. Would rather Staker/Paparone in the team.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 05, 2013, 11:27:54 AM
I don't think we will see all of Brown, McGuane, Lisle, Staker and Martin/Michael in a team.

Staker is all set to stay as well from what I have read. Apparently Carlton have seen that he is a required player at Brisbane and don't really want to trade for him. So we will be keeping Staker.

I think the 22 will look something like this

Clarke Merrett Patfull
Golby Maguire  Adcock
Rich Rockliff Hanley
Mayes Lisle/Martin Zorko
Green Brown McGuane
Berger Reddan Moloney
Staker Black Raines Beams

I also think Michael is still a year or two off being ready for a full AFL season. Lisle or Martin are left to play second ruck if we go with this, which means that Berger will have to spend just about the full game in the ruck. That's why we should have played Longer more and used the two ruckmen like Nic Nat and Cox. Berger is a good mark and can play well up forward, I hope he can get down there a bit more.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 05, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
Sauce can also pinch hit in the ruck. Agree 100% on your comments on Longer BB and I have said on numerous occasions that Voss should have persevered with the Berger/Longer combo especially as there was talk of the capped interchange early in the season. The 2 games they played together Berger presented an alternative Marking option up front and duly converted, Is an extremely accurate kick for goal as well unlike Longer or Michael. maybe if Voss had done this we would still have Longer.

Reports that Polkinghorne is having a change of heart and may stay.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 07, 2013, 09:17:59 AM
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OFFICIAL: Brisbane has taken Johnathan Freeman as an Academy pick with its rd4 pick (currently 59). Matched Adelaide's rd3 bid (42)

 :D Freeman Is Ours :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2013, 11:03:56 AM
Interesting that Adelaide would bid the first legitimate draft selection in pick 42 for freeman though.  Happy that he is staying and no doubt we will have additional picks prior to 59 anyway when trade period ends.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2013, 11:11:04 AM
Reports that Polkinghorne is having a change of heart and may stay.

If he does stay, I hope he gets game time. Think he fell out of favour with Vossy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2013, 11:19:21 AM
Reports that Polkinghorne is having a change of heart and may stay.

If he does stay, I hope he gets game time. Think he fell out of favour with Vossy.
He was one of Vossys pets though Nigey and was probably played longer than he should have.  Mayes virtually replaced him when Voss finally dropped him and we know what Mayes did. Has not really reached full potential and will be hard to see him playing games with Brisbanes Midfield depth - Bench spot at best. And with Zorko and Green small forawrds can not see him breaking in there either,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2013, 11:23:39 AM
Reports that Polkinghorne is having a change of heart and may stay.

If he does stay, I hope he gets game time. Think he fell out of favour with Vossy.
He was one of Vossys pets though Nigey and was probably played longer than he should have.  Mayes virtually replaced him when Voss finally dropped him and we know what Mayes did. Has not really reached full potential and will be hard to see him playing games with Brisbanes Midfield depth - Bench spot at best. And with Zorko and Green small forawrds can not see him breaking in there either,
If that's the case, please find a new home Polka!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 07, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Reports that Polkinghorne is having a change of heart and may stay.

If he does stay, I hope he gets game time. Think he fell out of favour with Vossy.
He was one of Vossys pets though Nigey and was probably played longer than he should have.  Mayes virtually replaced him when Voss finally dropped him and we know what Mayes did. Has not really reached full potential and will be hard to see him playing games with Brisbanes Midfield depth - Bench spot at best. And with Zorko and Green small forawrds can not see him breaking in there either,
If that's the case, please find a new home Polka!
Just my opinion though Nigey.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 07, 2013, 11:26:39 AM
Reports that Polkinghorne is having a change of heart and may stay.

If he does stay, I hope he gets game time. Think he fell out of favour with Vossy.
He was one of Vossys pets though Nigey and was probably played longer than he should have.  Mayes virtually replaced him when Voss finally dropped him and we know what Mayes did. Has not really reached full potential and will be hard to see him playing games with Brisbanes Midfield depth - Bench spot at best. And with Zorko and Green small forawrds can not see him breaking in there either,
If that's the case, please find a new home Polka!
Just my opinion though Nigey.
Fair enough, hopefully Leppa can find a place for him. Has talent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2013, 01:31:13 PM
Brissie talking to Hawks about Longer later this arvo. Expecting Hawk's first pick and something else
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2013, 01:39:48 PM
Was interesting listening to Kerr on Trade Radio. Also on what is required for Yeo as well leaving door open to Freo as well.
Summarising Kerrs  Longer 1st Round Pick, with 2nd Round Picks for Yeo, Docherty, Polec, Karnezis,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2013, 01:43:02 PM
Brissie talking to Hawks about Longer later this arvo. Expecting Hawk's first pick and something else
You'd think that since they're getting the Buddy compo pick that they will part with one of those two picks for Longer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 09, 2013, 01:45:10 PM
Carlton and Bulldogs leading candidates for Docherty
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2013, 01:51:27 PM
Carlton and Bulldogs leading candidates for Docherty
Did nominate Carlton as his club of choice I think though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2013, 02:21:31 PM
This is why Brisbane is screwed a little If we can not come to agreement with Carlton Docherty will go to the Draft and will be picked up by Bulldogs for nothing. So we need to try and get what we can for him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 09, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
Might be a problem if the Lions are playing hardball to get what they think all of their departing youngsters are worth.  :-X
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2013, 03:13:49 PM
Just depends whether they are willing to go into the draft or not. So if they do not we hold the upper hand but if they do then they hold the upper hand.  Hope we re not going to be overly stupid but at the same time get the best picks or players for them.

I will use Yeo as an example because he nominated West Coast we negotiated with West coast and their first offer is a third round pick which has been rightfully rejected as insulting.  Freo have now entered the fray with a better off so he may have to go to freo if he wants to return home but if West coast now offer their second round pick will be accepted.

Just remember Longer, Yeo and Docherty were all early picks when drafted so we need some return despite the go home factor.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on October 09, 2013, 06:28:45 PM
Hey Ringo...a comment on SEN tonight that the pies Harry O is looking at going to the Lions..have you heard anything?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2013, 06:48:24 PM
Have not heard anything like that one.  Kerr also said he would be looking for players or picks. An interesting suggestion but just wonder where he would fit in or back six - Merrett, Clarke, Patful, Golby, Adcock, Maguire.  Maybe may push Maguire out to bench but we still have Harwood there as well. Do not know what the offer would be possibly Karnezis + something for him especially as karnezis has nominated Pies.

Watch this space I suppose.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
Harry played on the wing all year...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 09, 2013, 06:54:42 PM
Interesting Golby has been doing that role with Hanley so will he replace either of those 2 interesting days ahead me thinks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 10, 2013, 10:55:47 AM
http://www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/sport/afl/news/2013/10/simon-black-to-retire-and-head-to-sydney-swans/

A source deep inside the Brisbane Lions has told Triple M Brisbane Simon Black will not play on in 2014.

The station also believes Black will take on an assistant coaching role at the Sydney Swans under John Longmire.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 10, 2013, 11:08:26 AM
I hope this source is wrong.  :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2013, 11:36:45 AM
http://www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/sport/afl/news/2013/10/simon-black-to-retire-and-head-to-sydney-swans/

A source deep inside the Brisbane Lions has told Triple M Brisbane Simon Black will not play on in 2014.

The station also believes Black will take on an assistant coaching role at the Sydney Swans under John Longmire.

Blackie is really agonising over this decision and has promised an answer within a week.  He will be guided by medicl opinion and his body which is showing wear and tear.  If he does retire would like to see him in a coaching role at Lions as well.  Black has always expressed the desire to get into coaching after retiring and imo will be a much better coach than Voss.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 10, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
Well with the Hawks getting McEvoy, will they still be going after Longer?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2013, 03:16:16 PM
Well with the Hawks getting McEvoy, will they still be going after Longer?

Cant see Longer now choosing the Hawks.

Best result for Brisbane. Longer should probably re-sign.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2013, 03:21:53 PM
Obviously best result is for Longer to stay but do not mind this trade though that is rumoured Longer for Jarrad Grant from Bulldogs.  Grant is only 24 and would give a second option up front. Bulldogs believed to be contacting Longer or his manager.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
http://www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/sport/afl/news/2013/10/simon-black-to-retire-and-head-to-sydney-swans/

A source deep inside the Brisbane Lions has told Triple M Brisbane Simon Black will not play on in 2014.

The station also believes Black will take on an assistant coaching role at the Sydney Swans under John Longmire.

Blackie is really agonising over this decision and has promised an answer within a week.  He will be guided by medicl opinion and his body which is showing wear and tear.  If he does retire would like to see him in a coaching role at Lions as well.  Black has always expressed the desire to get into coaching after retiring and imo will be a much better coach than Voss.

As a person Black would suit the Swans team. Midfield coach has just left as well........
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 10, 2013, 03:24:21 PM
That does not seem to be a fair straight swap deal to me. Maybe something like Grant + Second round pick?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2013, 03:30:28 PM
That does not seem to be a fair straight swap deal to me. Maybe something like Grant + Second round pick?

Wow you guys really are overrating Longer....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2013, 03:34:56 PM
That does not seem to be a fair straight swap deal to me. Maybe something like Grant + Second round pick?

Wow you guys really are overrating Longer....

Thats for docherty
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 10, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
That does not seem to be a fair straight swap deal to me. Maybe something like Grant + Second round pick?

Wow you guys really are overrating Longer....

Thats for docherty
Docherty seems pretty set on going to Carlton. There is also some talk now that McEvoy has gone to Hawthorn, that Longer might want to go to the Dogs instead.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on October 10, 2013, 03:40:04 PM
That does not seem to be a fair straight swap deal to me. Maybe something like Grant + Second round pick?

Wow you guys really are overrating Longer....

Thats for docherty
Docherty seems pretty set on going to Carlton. There is also some talk now that McEvoy has gone to Hawthorn, that Longer might want to go to the Dogs instead.

So were you suggesting that Longer for Grant isnt a straight swap that Dogs should throw in 2nd round?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2013, 03:41:58 PM
Oh guess Billy is getting desperate :P Grants a spud though, theres a reason the team most in need of a key forward is trading a key forward away ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2013, 03:46:31 PM
Disagree on Grant JB - Had a great second half to the season and finally finding his feet,  An ideal fit for us if a trade can b worked involving either Docherty or Longer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
Good luck with him then ;)

Imo you'd be better off hoping the Armitage for Longer rumor is true
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2013, 03:49:59 PM
Imo we do not need any more mids we need forwards to assist Brownie while Paporone and Close continue to develop.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 10, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
Looks like leppitsch will play the two ruckmen. so if billy stays he has a place in the team
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2013, 05:04:04 PM
http://www.triplem.com.au/brisbane/sport/afl/news/2013/10/simon-black-to-retire-and-head-to-sydney-swans/

A source deep inside the Brisbane Lions has told Triple M Brisbane Simon Black will not play on in 2014.

The station also believes Black will take on an assistant coaching role at the Sydney Swans under John Longmire.
This has now been refuted by both Black and Lions.

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-10-10/black-rumours-unfounded
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 10, 2013, 07:59:49 PM
The deadline for making a date for the EGM has passed already has it not? Why has one not been announced? The rules of the constitution are pretty clear cut regarding the matter, a meeting should be confirmed by now.

Really, to me, it is just proof that Johnson knows his time will be up at the meeting and he seems to be trying to hide behind lawyers and keep his throne for as long as possible. He is causing a lot of damage to the club at the moment. I don't know many members that would still be happy with him in charge.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 10, 2013, 09:10:46 PM
The deadline for making a date for the EGM has passed already has it not? Why has one not been announced? The rules of the constitution are pretty clear cut regarding the matter, a meeting should be confirmed by now.

Really, to me, it is just proof that Johnson knows his time will be up at the meeting and he seems to be trying to hide behind lawyers and keep his throne for as long as possible. He is causing a lot of damage to the club at the moment. I don't know many members that would still be happy with him in charge.
Yes BB deadline was last Friday. so club is in breach of constitution as it stands.  There is also Legal opinion obtained by the Lions Roar supporters group counteracting the Legal advice regarding Life members so we wait outcomes. The latest development is that Matthews has agreed to be removed from the ticket but should Power be elected to CEO position then Matthews will be appointed to a specialist position within the club.
It is a messy situation and tbh I am totally disappointed at the lack of respect shown to Life Members. (I suspect some may have voted in the past anyway).
I was going to not renew my membership but received a tweet from Leigh saying that not renewing will really effect Leppa and the boys so will be renewing for that basis.
Probably for the first time will be attending the EGM or AGM and exercising my right to a vote. It is a messy situation which needs sorting out quickly and time for egos to be put aside for the betterment of the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 11, 2013, 07:10:30 AM
Exactly right Ringo. I hope we don't lose many members out of this, because eventually Johnson will be gone. Only a matter of time really.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 11, 2013, 09:05:41 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-11/lions-chairman-fires-back

More arrogance from the Chairman saying he has always acted in the interests of the club - Call the meeting Angus so we can give you your just deserts,

Just a couple of things you have done with the board that imo are not in the best interests of the club

Change the Lion Logo on the guernseys
Sacked Voss with just 3 games to go with no coach in waiting. (If Roos was to be it you really botched it)
Moved the club outside the Brisbane are to Springfield in the Ipswich City Council area making a very long trip for members to now attend training and functions. (Was this just to get Sharples as the latest board member),

Also the agressive write down of the Springwood Social Club Assets in the Balance Sheet is adversely effecting P & L.  (Whilst Legal to do so we should be working on the minimum allowed while our position is not strong)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on October 11, 2013, 09:43:36 AM
All this and uncontracted players.....really needs to be fixed quickly Ringo. ( stating the bleeding obvious..I know ).
How bad will it go if the AFL step in and put in its own board do you think?.
Is there anything on the horizon that can fix this quickly?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 11, 2013, 09:46:38 AM
Angus pushing his case for the AFL's biggest flog. He's in good company too. Andy D, Adrian Dodoro... the list goes on.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 11, 2013, 09:59:00 AM
All this and uncontracted players.....really needs to be fixed quickly Ringo. ( stating the bleeding obvious..I know ).
How bad will it go if the AFL step in and put in its own board do you think?.
Is there anything on the horizon that can fix this quickly?
2 things that will fix it EGM called as quickly as possible.  EGM to amend constitution allowing Life members to become directors to be passed first and then endorse the oppossing ticket which allows both Matthews and Thornton as directors of the club.  We would probably be the only club where none of the directors have any football experience. 
Think the AFL needs to step in if not resolved in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: tbagrocks on October 11, 2013, 06:32:20 PM
L fighting hard on playing hard ball with former #5 draftee, Could take two more weeks ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on October 11, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
Angus pushing his case for the AFL's biggest flog. He's in good company too. Andy D, Adrian Dodoro... the list goes on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGrfOTEnRFE  ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 15, 2013, 07:38:26 AM
just read it could be a direct swap with Polec to adelaide and wright to brisbane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 15, 2013, 09:13:21 AM
just read it could be a direct swap with Polec to adelaide and wright to brisbane.
Just read that one too - We will be replacing a 21 year old 188cm midfielder with a 24 year old 178 cm midfielder forward so we may be losing a bit but need to get what we can. Will be a depth player for us and will aid in competition for places.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on October 15, 2013, 02:48:20 PM
just read it could be a direct swap with Polec to adelaide and wright to brisbane.
Just read that one too - We will be replacing a 21 year old 188cm midfielder with a 24 year old 178 cm midfielder forward so we may be losing a bit but need to get what we can. Will be a depth player for us and will aid in competition for places.
I rate Wright really highly. Not sure why he fell out of favour a bit this year and was given tagging roles, but let him roam around either following the ball or in the forward 50 and he is dangerous.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 15, 2013, 03:36:26 PM
Midfielder/forward  :o Don't think we got any of em :P :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 16, 2013, 09:35:15 PM
Not sure where to post this: Rockliff's controversial tweet:

(Here's a screenshot, source @hcdc93)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWr9jAFIUAAMH6m.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 16, 2013, 10:02:19 PM
Fukk yeah Rocky, ya champ! Hahaha!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Great form Rocky!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on October 17, 2013, 06:00:57 AM
Hahaha that's gold.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 17, 2013, 07:24:05 AM
Love it, Rockstar!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2013, 07:50:34 AM
Seen them yesterday.  There is some speculation his account may have been hacked.  Am aware though there a some  players unhappy with these go home boys selecting clubs.

Could have been ignited as well by article in the Courier mail yesterday on this citing Matthews calling Shane O'Bree a traitor when he went back to Melbourne.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on October 17, 2013, 08:17:03 AM
Can anything else go off the rails up there Ringo?  :-\
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2013, 09:23:54 AM
I thought it was an interesting tweet to say the least.

He's voiced his mind a bit on Twitter (like most people, other AFL lads included... Brock McLean anyone? :P), but yeah, it was funny.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 17, 2013, 11:13:14 AM
at least Mclean's tweets are structurally coherent though :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 17, 2013, 11:15:59 AM
at least Mclean's tweets are structurally coherent though :P

This is true.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 17, 2013, 11:41:37 AM
Can anything else go off the rails up there Ringo?  :-\


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-17/where-did-it-all-go-wrong-for-the-lions

This is a well written article by Michael Whiting analysing the Lions. (So our problems stem back to Eddie for getting our concessions removed ;D ;D not really but the start of the problems)
Hope 13th November EGM will resolve most of field issues.  Unfortunately I will not be able to attend as I will be in NZ but will lodging proxies.  Am anticipating the biggest attendance at a General Meeting yet given the anger that exists to the Board at the moment amongst members.

Yes Tdog we appear a basket case at the moment but hopefully the light that is starting to appear is not a big on coming train  ;) ;)

Edit: Just realised link to actual article did not come accross so added it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on October 17, 2013, 09:12:53 PM
Can anything else go off the rails up there Ringo?  :-\

This is a well written article by Michael Whiting analysing the Lions. (So our problems stem back to Eddie for getting our concessions removed ;D ;D not really but the start of the problems)
Hope 13th November EGM will resolve most of field issues.  Unfortunately I will not be able to attend as I will be in NZ but will lodging proxies.  Am anticipating the biggest attendance at a General Meeting yet given the anger that exists to the Board at the moment amongst members.

Yes Tdog we appear a basket case at the moment but hopefully the light that is starting to appear is not a big on coming train  ;) ;)

You'll be right mate once all the dust has settled.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 18, 2013, 06:48:08 AM
ABC saying Simon Black will retire today :( :'(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 18, 2013, 07:48:21 AM
ABC saying Simon Black will retire today :( :'(
Speculation probably correct and we wait for press conference this morning with Leppa.

Conference scheduled for 9:15am Qld Real Time (10:15 Rubbish time in other Eastern states) this morning and will be a live stream on Lions site.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 20, 2013, 10:52:51 AM
Great news for Brisbane fans, with forward James Polkinghorne deciding to stay at the GABBA despite requesting a trade back to Victoria.

- herald sun



Patrick Karnezis is likely to be picked up by Collingwood in the pre-season draft with the Magpies making little effort to get a deal done with Brisbane.

- Herald Sun



BREAKING

Billy Longer has told Brisbane that he wishes to be traded to St Kilda.



Adelaide has conceded Port is the favourite to trade in homesick Lion Jared Polec but has warned the Crows will swoop on him in the pre-season draft if the Power and Brisbane can't get a deal done.

- Herald Sun
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 20, 2013, 11:49:24 AM
hope karnezis ends up at gws
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 21, 2013, 09:17:26 AM
Pick 19 for Longer is pretty fair I reckon. Originally a pick 8, with a couple of years experience
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2013, 10:04:21 AM
Think it may take a couple of days to sort out involving exchange of picks as we are seeking a higher draft pick.  IMO anything less than 14 is reasonable for Longer.  Bottom line is with St Kilda now being his nominated choice of clubs (Hate players who change their minds to suit and this is probably reason he will not be welcome at Brisbane now) we have to get the best deal for him as Saints will obviously get him in the PSD.,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2013, 10:08:22 AM
What does this exodus mean for you guys in drafting now? Heading into the national draft do you think you'll look at getting home-made talent or will you still be able to draft interstate boys confidently?

EDIT: Just had a look at where this year's draft crop is from and there is literally no Queensland boys there... Makes it a bit hard for you guys looking at that. :-[
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2013, 10:22:45 AM
Yeah, there's a real lack of Queensland lads in this draft pool. They'll have to grab a VIC (most likely) and hope he's happy to stay there for the long haul.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 21, 2013, 12:57:30 PM
We Want Archie Smith!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2013, 12:59:30 PM
With all the picks you're getting for guys like Karnezis and Longer, I'm sure you'll nab him.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 21, 2013, 01:01:33 PM
With all the picks you're getting for guys like Karnezis and Longer, I'm sure you'll nab him.  :P
Is he even going to the draft? There was some word we'd take him through the academy, but we took Jono Freeman instead :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2013, 01:10:05 PM
With all the picks you're getting for guys like Karnezis and Longer, I'm sure you'll nab him.  :P
Is he even going to the draft? There was some word we'd take him through the academy, but we took Jono Freeman instead :)
Not sure tbh.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
What's actually happening with Karny? Haven't heard a thing about him.

I know we were interested last year but I dunno if we could give him much opportunity with our forwards shaping up as they are...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
With all the picks you're getting for guys like Karnezis and Longer, I'm sure you'll nab him.  :P
Is he even going to the draft? There was some word we'd take him through the academy, but we took Jono Freeman instead :)
Not sure tbh.
Archie Smith will be in the draft - He went to the combine and was on of the top performers in the vertical leap tests - (Best vertical leap of left leg which may have some of the scouts looking at him). We are only allowed one academy selection and nominated Johnathan Freeman which we will take with our 5th round pick after Adelaide indicated they would take him with their pick. I am hoping we take him especially with losing Longer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2013, 01:31:02 PM
What's actually happening with Karny? Haven't heard a thing about him.

I know we were interested last year but I dunno if we could give him much opportunity with our forwards shaping up as they are...
Think Brisbane once they sort out picks for Yeo, Longer, Docherty and Polec will try and package Karnezis and a pick for a player.  May be wrong but that is how I am reading it. Pies still reportedly interested in him. I would entertain a straight swap with Keefe allowing Keefe to return to Qld (Homesickness in reverse)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2013, 01:35:05 PM
What's actually happening with Karny? Haven't heard a thing about him.

I know we were interested last year but I dunno if we could give him much opportunity with our forwards shaping up as they are...
Think Brisbane once they sort out picks for Yeo, Longer, Docherty and Polec will try and package Karnezis and a pick for a player.  May be wrong but that is how I am reading it. Pies still reportedly interested in him. I would entertain a straight swap with Keefe allowing Keefe to return to Qld (Homesickness in reverse)

Almost certain I read something this morning about Karny being traded for a pick (can't remember which one).
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2013, 01:39:05 PM
Found it.

The Age are reporting that Patrick Karnezis will be traded to Collingwood for either 49 or 67.

- AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 21, 2013, 01:41:08 PM
Dunno why he'd wanna go to Collingwood though TBH... Don't see him getting too much more opportunity there..
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2013, 01:42:35 PM
Kerr made it clear he was not interested in Lower picks so maybe further negotiations will need to take place imo. He wants high picks or players which I suspect Karny maybe a package. Karny will not want to walk to PSD wher he will be at mercy of other clubs but in saying that need to get best tennancy we can for him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 21, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
Dunno why he'd wanna go to Collingwood though TBH... Don't see him getting too much more opportunity there..
Yeah, I doubt he will get too many games there.

I don't think anyone else is too interested in him though.

He'd probably get more game time at the Lions, but he wants to go home... so eh.

Kerr made it clear he was not interested in Lower picks so maybe further negotiations will need to take place imo. He wants high picks or players which I suspect Karny maybe a package.

I know the Lions want higher picks, and have every right to feel hard done by... but if they don't accept the deals, regardless of the picks they're receiving, their players could just enter the PSD.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
Agree Nigey but just saying we need the best offer we possibly can for him.  Unlike Longer Karny is sticking with Pies as his preferred club so we just have to get the best offer possible from Pies.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: meow meow on October 21, 2013, 01:47:47 PM
With the departure of Dale Thomas, the Pies have a spot for a hard running outside mid. Dwyer can fill this position but if Karny can get his act together he might get a gig. His value has dropped significantly since being drafted so I can't see the Lions getting anything more than #49 for him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 21, 2013, 03:32:41 PM
With all the picks you're getting for guys like Karnezis and Longer, I'm sure you'll nab him.  :P
Is he even going to the draft? There was some word we'd take him through the academy, but we took Jono Freeman instead :)
Not sure tbh.
Archie Smith will be in the draft - He went to the combine and was on of the top performers in the vertical leap tests - (Best vertical leap of left leg which may have some of the scouts looking at him). We are only allowed one academy selection and nominated Johnathan Freeman which we will take with our 5th round pick after Adelaide indicated they would take him with their pick. I am hoping we take him especially with losing Longer.
Here he is - http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-20/archie-smith (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-20/archie-smith)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 21, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
collingwood traded pick 49, might have to pinch their 44
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on October 21, 2013, 07:03:10 PM
Come on! Docherty deal taking ages :P

Seal it!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 21, 2013, 07:07:40 PM
I think Brisbane is still wondering where it's all gone wrong
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on October 21, 2013, 07:13:36 PM
I think Brisbane is still wondering where it's all gone wrong

probably started when they got in Big Fev.... ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 21, 2013, 07:25:35 PM
I think Brisbane is still wondering where it's all gone wrong

probably started when they got in Big Fev.... ::)
Really started in 2003 when Eddie succeeded in getting rid of Brisbanes extra concessions so we were unable to offer the contracts we had similar to what Sydney, GC and Suns have had all the time.  Fevola incident did not help and we paid for it as well. Just when we started to get benefits from the picks the go home factor surfaces which was not helped by coaching and off field issues.

Think we can come out of it though similar to what Port have done.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on October 21, 2013, 07:31:06 PM
Hey! Fev is a legend. :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 22, 2013, 01:52:53 PM
The AFL website is suggesting that North Melbourne could potentially hijack Collingwood's bid to secure wantaway Brisbane midfielder Patrick Karnezis.

The AFL website suggests that North Melbourne has offered pick 47 for Karnezis to the Brisbane Lions with Collingwood's offer said to be pick 67.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2013, 01:57:26 PM
Bet Collingwood feel a bit silly for trading all their middle tier picks away :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: specky92 on October 22, 2013, 01:59:33 PM
Bet Collingwood feel a bit silly for trading all their middle tier picks away :P
I think collingwood are still very happy with their work this trade period
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 22, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Bet Collingwood feel a bit silly for trading all their middle tier picks away :P
I think collingwood are still very happy with their work this trade period

Sure, but Karny with 67 would have topped it all off!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 22, 2013, 03:12:53 PM
Karyn for 67  >:( :'( He's worth far more than that.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 23, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
heard we have Hawthorn in tassie round 1
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on October 23, 2013, 09:50:58 PM
The AFL website is suggesting that North Melbourne could potentially hijack Collingwood's bid to secure wantaway Brisbane midfielder Patrick Karnezis.

The AFL website suggests that North Melbourne has offered pick 47 for Karnezis to the Brisbane Lions with Collingwood's offer said to be pick 67.
I'd take it. Don't know a whole lot about Karnezis I will admit, not having Foxtel means I don't get to see many lions games.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2013, 10:19:20 PM
The AFL website is suggesting that North Melbourne could potentially hijack Collingwood's bid to secure wantaway Brisbane midfielder Patrick Karnezis.

The AFL website suggests that North Melbourne has offered pick 47 for Karnezis to the Brisbane Lions with Collingwood's offer said to be pick 67.
I'd take it. Don't know a whole lot about Karnezis I will admit, not having Foxtel means I don't get to see many lions games.

Not sure what role he plays but it doesn't sound good for Harper.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 24, 2013, 04:22:32 PM
Polec officially gone to Port
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 24, 2013, 04:25:37 PM
Polec officially gone to Port
Sad, sad day :'( Yet again ripped off :'(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 24, 2013, 04:26:39 PM
We give up Polec and 29 and get 22 and 34 in return. Horrible deal.....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 24, 2013, 04:37:34 PM
Polec deal is pathetic
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on October 24, 2013, 04:41:41 PM
Polec deal is pathetic

That deal makes my head hurt!!  :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 24, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
AFL ‏@AFL 33s
The @brisbanelions have traded Elliott Yeo to @westcoasteagles in exchange for pick 28. #tradedebate

Meh. Not as bad as the other ones
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 24, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
AFL ‏@AFL 33s
The @brisbanelions have traded Elliott Yeo to @westcoasteagles in exchange for pick 28. #tradedebate

Meh. Not as bad as the other ones

probably fair. dochertys is a rort and polecs is embarrassing for the lions
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 24, 2013, 05:00:13 PM
frankly, this is why brisbane had those concessions 10 years ago... not really for the cost of living, but because there are few afl players you can get from QL, living on the opposite side of the country is a killer for a lot of kids, so you have all these first round draft picks leaving to go home, but nobody from QL coming back home to the lions.

let's face it, if brisbane had been able to offer like longer, docherty, polec 200k+ more than what they could currently offer, they'd probably still be there, going home only factors in so much.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 05:05:57 PM
frankly, this is why brisbane had those concessions 10 years ago... not really for the cost of living, but because there are few afl players you can get from QL, living on the opposite side of the country is a killer for a lot of kids, so you have all these first round draft picks leaving to go home, but nobody from QL coming back home to the lions.

let's face it, if brisbane had been able to offer like longer, docherty, polec 200k+ more than what they could currently offer, they'd probably still be there, going home only factors in so much.
  Well said Zip and I agree - Strange that Swans still have the concession though whereas we do not.  That may change now after the Buddy Deal.
Eddie making the same noises as he did with Brisbane causing us to lose concessions.  Firmly believe all clubs in Qld and NSW should have the cap concession because as you would know Zip AFL is a fair distant of the other codes in NSW and Qld.

Regarding the go home factor and the trades done know we are getting screwed and other clubs know this so we are much better with the picks that are offered rather than losing player for nothing/
Do not why Port just did not offer us pick 14 for Polec as really the exchange of other picks is not much different.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 24, 2013, 05:09:20 PM
If I was to survey my school, most people would not have AFL as there #1 sport, as having the Cowboys makes League so much more popular. Brisbane wasn't much different, even though the Lions are there.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 24, 2013, 05:25:38 PM
the Swans have  the concessions because of the massive difference in the cost of living between sydney and every other australian city. Which I stand by ftr.

The sydney clubs have the cost of living cap, which is adequate, but I really think that the queensland clubs should be getting some concession as well... not that I really know what you would call it....

'please stay here' salary concession? :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
Have heard that Ace Cornelius has also been de-listed by the Lions.  Should be picked up by another club though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 24, 2013, 05:32:04 PM
Have heard that Ace Cornelius has also been de-listed by the Lions.  Should be picked up by another club though.
Would be behind Lisle, Close, Bourke, McGuane and Paparone I think.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on October 24, 2013, 05:39:27 PM
We give up Polec and 29 and get 22 and 34 in return. Horrible deal.....
Oh wow, big win by Port there, keeping their top 20 pick :o. Guessing Lions have to make do seeing a lot of those youngsters are leaving :(.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 05:42:17 PM
We give up Polec and 29 and get 22 and 34 in return. Horrible deal.....
Oh wow, big win by Port there, keeping their top 20 pick :o. Guessing Lions have to make do seeing a lot of those youngsters are leaving :(.
Unfortunately HP this is why I think GWS were involved as Port would not do 14 for Polec.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 24, 2013, 06:27:01 PM
If you guys get concessions though, I'm sure Adelaide would be making noises saying they'd want a higher salary cap as well :-[
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 24, 2013, 06:35:10 PM
Adelaide is a football state though, they wouldn't need the extra cap room?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 24, 2013, 06:39:02 PM
Adelaide is a football state though, they wouldn't need the extra cap room?

^ basically

adelaide/ port have players coming home... so they lose players, but then they get talented players coming back in, something the nsw/ ql teams dont get
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 06:52:33 PM
Adelaide is a football state though, they wouldn't need the extra cap room?

^ basically

adelaide/ port have players coming home... so they lose players, but then they get talented players coming back in, something the nsw/ ql teams dont get
+1 How many local players are in the relative teams from NSW and Qld compared to other states.

Maybe call it a promotional allowance for those 4 teams and create rules for use.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 24, 2013, 06:59:23 PM
we get zone selections, atm though, if I was to hazard a guess, I'd say the giants only had maybe 4 players from nsw on our list atm.


I'll look it up though
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 07:01:54 PM
Do you still get the zone selections Zip I think I remember reading this was the last year but maybe only for Swans and Lions being the 2 established teams.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on October 24, 2013, 07:05:57 PM
AFL ‏@AFL 33s
The @brisbanelions have traded Elliott Yeo to @westcoasteagles in exchange for pick 28. #tradedebate

Meh. Not as bad as the other ones

Probably could have got him cheaper but I feel too sorry for BL to be annoyed with them haha :(

Have heard that Ace Cornelius has also been de-listed by the Lions.  Should be picked up by another club though.

Wow, I rate him :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on October 24, 2013, 07:07:45 PM
Yeah sucks for Brissy fans :( Would be tough for any club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 24, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
we get zone selections, atm though, if I was to hazard a guess, I'd say the giants only had maybe 4 players from nsw on our list atm.


I'll look it up though

yeah, so we have hampton, who we got from our NT zone selection, who doesn't really have the same go home factor, then our nsw players are Miles, Townsend and Schulz

Do you still get the zone selections Zip I think I remember reading this was the last year but maybe only for Swans and Lions being the 2 established teams.

yeah, I'm pretty sure we still get zone selection- like anderson and neade were our nt zone selections this year that we traded.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 07:28:25 PM
Brisbnaes list contains only 3 Senior listed Qld Players - Merrett, Zorko and Raines who returned after a stint at Richmond - and 2 on the Rookie List Bourke and Michael.
This illustrates the point being made that we are not an AFL state and deserve some concessions and Zip has identified similar problems for GWS,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 24, 2013, 07:37:39 PM
Adelaide is a football state though, they wouldn't need the extra cap room?

Yes that's true BUT living in SA you should here how much everyone complains about how it's hard for them to retain interstate players (and lets be honest, a majority of AFL players come from Victoria).

Not saying I agree with it, but I think if you got concessions, Adelaide would be crying out for help. Look at the players that have been leaving in recent years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 24, 2013, 07:55:59 PM
Adelaide is a football state though, they wouldn't need the extra cap room?

Yes that's true BUT living in SA you should here how much everyone complains about how it's hard for them to retain interstate players (and lets be honest, a majority of AFL players come from Victoria).

Not saying I agree with it, but I think if you got concessions, Adelaide would be crying out for help. Look at the players that have been leaving in recent years.
Nah doesn't seem that unfair to me. Maybe the SA clubs aren't doing enough to keep their Victorians happy, compared to the South Australians at Victorian clubs...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 24, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
I think it comes down to club culture but that's just me :3

Personally I don't think they need concessions but I'm just saying I think they'd be fishing for some if the AFL granted other states concessions.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 24, 2013, 08:00:28 PM
Ummm last time I checked Qld and NSW have zone selections and players still leave all the time, even with bonus salary cap living requirements in Sydney.

You guys have the SANFL, other states have way bigger problems than Adelaide does. Half of the Qld/Nsw players don't even play in their own state, which SA has no problem with.

Leave it as is
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 24, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
LISTEN TO ME!! :P

I do not support Adelaide - I support Richmond. I am just making an observation that I have heard alot about here in SA, that they feel hard done by in being able to retain players.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 08:07:10 PM
I think it comes down to club culture but that's just me :3

Personally I don't think they need concessions but I'm just saying I think they'd be fishing for some if the AFL granted other states concessions.
  But there is a little bit of difference Toga in having in Adelaides case 18 of their list are South Australian though compared to the numbers for Lions and GWS.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 24, 2013, 08:08:42 PM
As I say, I do not think they need them in comparison to you guys who certainly do, I just think they would call out for them.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 24, 2013, 08:24:09 PM
But they're all South Australians :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 24, 2013, 08:26:18 PM
Thanks Toga and as i posted last year a lot of these kids that are drafted are only 18 and come from places where AFL is breathed everyday to Qld and NSW where we have to fight for AFL NEWS.  Even the Brisbane Lions Board Room resolution today was only on the 6th back page of the Courier mail to show what we are up against bet it was not that far back in Melbourne even though it is a Qld club.
Without this daily AFL saturation it is hard for these youngsters to adjust especially when not getting Senior games. It makes it more difficult when the club is in a bit of turmoil as well.

If we can get another first round pick for Longer which should be the minimum then I do not think we have come out too bad with the picks we now have although our building may have been put back 12/24 months with the 5 who have gone home.  This is the part that really hurts in that we lose the next wave after developing them.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 24, 2013, 09:12:24 PM
the thing with the adelaide clubs is that they're getting kids coming back as well- taking out players like bock/ davis who left for ridiculous amounts of money, they're losing about as much as they're gaining- for instance kids like hombsch and polec.

compared to brisbane for instance, who this year lost 3 first round draft picks (longer (8), docherty(12), polec (5)) from the last 3 years. That's flowered.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 24, 2013, 10:09:17 PM
Players are wanting to go to Port and Adelaide all the time, whereas Brisbane doesnt get any real interest
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 25, 2013, 01:27:06 AM
Thanks Toga and as i posted last year a lot of these kids that are drafted are only 18 and come from places where AFL is breathed everyday to Qld and NSW where we have to fight for AFL NEWS.  Even the Brisbane Lions Board Room resolution today was only on the 6th back page of the Courier mail to show what we are up against bet it was not that far back in Melbourne even though it is a Qld club.
Without this daily AFL saturation it is hard for these youngsters to adjust especially when not getting Senior games. It makes it more difficult when the club is in a bit of turmoil as well.

Yeah absolutely fair enough Ringo (and others), I completely understand that AFL takes a back seat in your state (I liken it to coverage of the Tiges here in SA :P), and I think that it wouldn't be a stupid idea to grant your mob concessions as it may help retain some of the guys you would otherwise lose as money certainly is a factor.

I agree Adelaide being an AFL state does not need/deserve concessions I was just merely stating something I've heard regularly down here that the Adelaide clubs need something to help retain players (i.e. more money). It seems Port doesn't really suffer from this problem (at present, at least), with guys like Monfries, Polec and co. returning, however the Crows have been losing more players than they have been getting from ex-South Australians returning home so I would not be surprised to hear them crying out for some extra salary cap space.

As I say I absolutely agree that Brisbane of all clubs at the moment are probably in most need of extra $$/ other concessions!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on October 25, 2013, 10:22:19 AM
Thanks Toga and as i posted last year a lot of these kids that are drafted are only 18 and come from places where AFL is breathed everyday to Qld and NSW where we have to fight for AFL NEWS.  Even the Brisbane Lions Board Room resolution today was only on the 6th back page of the Courier mail to show what we are up against bet it was not that far back in Melbourne even though it is a Qld club.
Without this daily AFL saturation it is hard for these youngsters to adjust especially when not getting Senior games. It makes it more difficult when the club is in a bit of turmoil as well.

Yeah absolutely fair enough Ringo (and others), I completely understand that AFL takes a back seat in your state (I liken it to coverage of the Tiges here in SA :P), and I think that it wouldn't be a stupid idea to grant your mob concessions as it may help retain some of the guys you would otherwise lose as money certainly is a factor.

I agree Adelaide being an AFL state does not need/deserve concessions I was just merely stating something I've heard regularly down here that the Adelaide clubs need something to help retain players (i.e. more money). It seems Port doesn't really suffer from this problem (at present, at least), with guys like Monfries, Polec and co. returning, however the Crows have been losing more players than they have been getting from ex-South Australians returning home so I would not be surprised to hear them crying out for some extra salary cap space.

As I say I absolutely agree that Brisbane of all clubs at the moment are probably in most need of extra $$/ other concessions!

sounds like a cultural issue with adelaide then, rather than the actual geographic region.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on October 25, 2013, 10:30:28 AM
Zip - my thoughts exactly! 8)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 25, 2013, 10:48:21 AM
Karnezis and Paine deal done. Straight swap
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 25, 2013, 11:01:26 AM
And another

Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 51s
BREAKING: Billy Longer and pick 48 to @stkildafc for pick 25 and 41.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on October 25, 2013, 12:01:36 PM
Geelong Cats ‏@GeelongCats 48s
TRADE: The Cats have traded premiership ruckman Trent West to the @BrisbaneLions for pick 41.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: SydneyRox on October 25, 2013, 12:03:36 PM
Those picks have just been flying round today!!

Nice pickup for the Lions
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 25, 2013, 12:55:04 PM
Jon Ralph ‏@RalphyHeraldSun 44s

Pies think Karnezis can be elite. Which is hype. But basically confirms Pies think the Lions development was rubbish. Big issue for Leppa
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on October 25, 2013, 01:54:21 PM
6 picks in the first 2 rounds

7, 22, 25, 28, 33, 34.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on October 25, 2013, 02:53:22 PM
6 picks in the first 2 rounds

7, 22, 25, 28, 33, 34.

Looks good

In 2 years time we can trade those players and get picks
18, 35, 38, 41, 46 and 47.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on October 25, 2013, 02:53:59 PM
Looked at the grades for trading. Wasn't surprised that we pumped out a f
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 25, 2013, 03:12:02 PM
It was definitely a horror trade period for us, but we have what we have now and it is time to move forward.

Interesting that we got West, does Leppa plan to play him the ruck and Berger up forward maybe? Maybe Longer would have had more opportunities if he stayed but had already decided to go home.

Paine will probably just be another failed tall forward, but one of them has to be decent at some stage right?

Not happy with the picks, but will just have to hope that we draft well enough to make up for it I suppose.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 25, 2013, 03:58:02 PM
Looked at the grades for trading. Wasn't surprised that we pumped out a f
Link?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2013, 05:38:42 PM
Been out all day and my thoughts on the trade.

Pies may be right with Karny becoming an elite player - Hinting at his development issues do not agree as I believe Karnezis asked to be traded home at the end of the season and in one of Voss's decision I agreed with played him in reserves there after.  Why continue to develop a player who is not going to be there next year. Mayes probably slotted into this role and I agree.

Paine for Karnezis is reasonable.

We got really flowered in the Longer Trade but this is better than nothing as St Kilda could have picked him up for nothing.



Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 25, 2013, 05:51:18 PM
Its a shame because the recruiting managers did a pretty good job.

The Lions football club got shafted by its board members
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 25, 2013, 05:52:40 PM
It's gonna be interesting to see what the Lions do with these 6 picks in the first two rounds on the back of all of this...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: specky92 on October 25, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
6 midfielders #yolo  ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 25, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
6 midfielders #yolo  ::)
I was thinking more along the lines of the fact that very few of the this year's draft pool are from QLD.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 25, 2013, 06:03:36 PM
6 midfielders #yolo  ::)
I was thinking more along the lines of the fact that very few of the this year's draft pool are from QLD.

Think that not being from Qld won't be a huge issue in the future, I feel as if Longer, polec etc. got disillusioned with the fiasco that happened off field
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
Brisbane will probably also pick up McGuane as a delisted free agent as well. 

Think we need to target forwards and defenders in the draft as these are our weak area given the ages of defenders and forwards.  Mid field has good depth with only Moloney and Raines over 25. There are a couple of midfielders coming through as well.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: enzedder on October 25, 2013, 06:42:36 PM
Been out all day and my thoughts on the trade.

Pies may be right with Karny becoming an elite player - Hinting at his development issues do not agree as I believe Karnezis asked to be traded home at the end of the season and in one of Voss's decision I agreed with played him in reserves there after.  Why continue to develop a player who is not going to be there next year. Mayes probably slotted into this role and I agree.

Paine for Karnezis is reasonable.

We got really flowered in the Longer Trade but this is better than nothing as St Kilda could have picked him up for nothing.
Different sorts of players I know Ringo but how would you rank those you lost...I'd be interested to hear.
From an outsider's perspective I would've thought Docherty would be the biggest loss. Also on that pick 33 for him... compared to 25 and 41 for Longer I was of the opinion Saints gave significantly more...agree that you were screwed over...hopefully all your picks flourish and stay.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on October 25, 2013, 06:44:26 PM
What do you think of us getting Trent West Ringo? Likely to get game time?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2013, 07:35:39 PM
Been out all day and my thoughts on the trade.

Pies may be right with Karny becoming an elite player - Hinting at his development issues do not agree as I believe Karnezis asked to be traded home at the end of the season and in one of Voss's decision I agreed with played him in reserves there after.  Why continue to develop a player who is not going to be there next year. Mayes probably slotted into this role and I agree.

Paine for Karnezis is reasonable.

We got really flowered in the Longer Trade but this is better than nothing as St Kilda could have picked him up for nothing.
Different sorts of players I know Ringo but how would you rank those you lost...I'd be interested to hear.
From an outsider's perspective I would've thought Docherty would be the biggest loss. Also on that pick 33 for him... compared to 25 and 41 for Longer I was of the opinion Saints gave significantly more...agree that you were screwed over...hopefully all your picks flourish and stay.
Personally I Think and this may surprise is Karnezis is probably the biggest loss imo.  Was starting to show plenty and then announced he wanted to go home and was left in Reserves.
Docherty and Yeo were on a par imo both fighting for that last position - Docherty foot skills are lacking a little which at times allowed Yeo to push in front.
Longer in only his 1st year of Senior Football so little hard to gauge although taken at 7 in National draft this really is a concern

West is a reasonable pick up considering the loss of Longer - Just wondering where Stefan Martin fits now as I see West a better player. West is also a year younger than Martin.  Hope that Leppa plays West in Ruck with Berger as a forward and both interchanging throughout the game.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 25, 2013, 07:43:01 PM
In the end, Brisbane still have Rich, Rockcliff, Hanley, Moloney and Zorko as several immediate impact players.

Think that 2013 might mean a delay for them in terms of getting from to top 10 ---> top 8 ---> top 6 but I can see a strong side still.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Master Q on October 25, 2013, 07:46:40 PM
In the end, Brisbane still have Rich, Rockcliff, Hanley, Moloney and Zorko as several immediate impact players.

Think that 2013 might mean a delay for them in terms of getting from to top 10 ---> top 8 ---> top 6 but I can see a strong side still.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
In the end, Brisbane still have Rich, Rockcliff, Hanley, Moloney and Zorko as several immediate impact players.

Think that 2013 might mean a delay for them in terms of getting from to top 10 ---> top 8 ---> top 6 but I can see a strong side still.

Agree mailman that our short term prospects are good but with 5 players leaving development will be set back as we will have to start afresh with new players based on our draft picks.  So we may peak next year 2014 and then slip for 2 years before rising again.  Hope not but looking at realities.

This is what I consider our best 22 atm after trade period.

B Patfull Merrett Clarke
HB Golby Maguire Adcock
C Hanley Rockliff Rich
HF Green Mayes Zorko
FF Lisle Brown Staker
F Berger Reddan Moloney

Bench West Beams Harwood Raines

Players considered unlucky would be Lester, Bewick, McGuanne, Paine with Close. Paporone and Wearden possibly putting pressure on,.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 25, 2013, 08:17:30 PM
That best 22 is in no way shameful the main issue I can see is the FF line, with Brown i'm assuming will retire next year. Trent West vs Billy Longer is a short-term upgrade IMO (obviously long term loss).

Very strong midfield and decent backline
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 25, 2013, 08:26:48 PM
That is why I specified short term MM and my concern that these 5 leaving will put us behind in development,  That is why I put out best 22 now. Brown, Patfull Merrett, Maguire and McGrath are all 29 plus so would anticipate retirements.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on October 26, 2013, 11:03:42 AM
Think Hanley has hit the nail on the head, "To many mummies boys" playing AFL these days wanting to go home. Boo Hoo man up, generations seem to be getting softer and softer in this regard.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 26, 2013, 05:18:15 PM
Think Hanley has hit the nail on the head, "To many mummies boys" playing AFL these days wanting to go home. Boo Hoo man up, generations seem to be getting softer and softer in this regard.
Agree Grazz if anyone is qualified to say that it is Hanley.  Irish guy who was drafted to Brisbane at age 19 a long way to come.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on October 26, 2013, 06:44:58 PM
Think Hanley has hit the nail on the head, "To many mummies boys" playing AFL these days wanting to go home. Boo Hoo man up, generations seem to be getting softer and softer in this regard.
Agree Grazz if anyone is qualified to say that it is Hanley.  Irish guy who was drafted to Brisbane at age 19 a long way to come.

Yeh my sentiments exactly mate. Would like to see them harden up a bit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 29, 2013, 04:15:47 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-10-28/not-all-is-lost

Interesting article concerning the loss of five players.  Basically if we can get our picks right we can remain competitive but if we do not we will be struggling in 3 years time.

Just also remember Brisbane has the 3rd Youngest list in the AFL as well
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on October 30, 2013, 08:04:30 AM
bye bye Jesse

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-10-29/obrien-moves-on (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2013-10-29/obrien-moves-on)

Dont think too many other clubs will want to pick him up.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on October 30, 2013, 08:27:02 AM
Do not mind this delisting as the article basically says we had to cut another player if we are take all 6 picks in the first 2 rounds and Johnno Freeman,

Jesse has worked hard to overcome injury but may be a reasonable pick up for a club if he can get his body right.  Showed what he is capable by winning the Andrew Ireland Medal in the NEAFL Grand final. Being from SA do not know whether Adelaide may want to pick him up given they missed on Polec.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on October 30, 2013, 12:37:37 PM
Goose and Polka have re-signed on one year deals.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on November 04, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
Good news for the club today.

Firstly Luke McGuane has signed on as a free agent. He should be a good foil for Browny and I think he will fit in well as a third tall.

Also Brent Staker has re-signed for two yeas so he will stay with us for the rest of his career.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 04, 2013, 03:25:20 PM
Just saw this before, great news!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 05, 2013, 10:43:42 AM
Great News on Staker and McGuane - Brightens up a dull NZ day
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 09, 2013, 12:33:10 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-09/happy-days-for-happy-mayes (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-09/happy-days-for-happy-mayes)

Quote
IT'S MUSIC to the ears of Brisbane Lions fans - first year star Sam Mayes loves the club and says he doesn't plan on going anywhere.

The Lions have just endured the off-season from hell that included losing five players under the age of 21, who all departed sighting homesickness.

Yay :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 09, 2013, 12:34:44 PM
Stupid copy and paste issues
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 09, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
Good news fellas, the kid is a gun!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 09, 2013, 01:00:25 PM
Well done Brisbane, he is a machine of a kid. Losing him would have hurt too much for you. Very good news he is staying with you. :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 09, 2013, 02:55:03 PM
He's gonna be a star, so good to hear this
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 14, 2013, 01:09:35 PM
Banfield delisted but they intend to rookie list him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 14, 2013, 02:23:10 PM
Not surprising given that Green has now taken his position.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 14, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
Do we have to rookie him? :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on November 14, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Last chance for Banfield next year. Definitely going to rookie him after he has been on the pre-season trip to Arizona.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on November 14, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
can't see him getting a run except for a big injury count..
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 15, 2013, 04:45:33 PM
Wrigley has signed with the Redland Bombers (http://www.neafl.com.au/index.php?id=16&tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=2013&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=11&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=1628&cHash=b16335876c5c583843fa6ef07050b5d3)

Good that we will still get to watch him play :) Was very unlucky to get delisted.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 15, 2013, 05:18:58 PM
What about Callum Bartlett? I thought he was pretty stiff? Will you rookie him?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 15, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
Some good gets by the Redland Bombers there. Will be pushing up the ladder in the NEAFL.  Darren Pfeiffer is the interesting inclusion relocating to Qld to complete studies.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 15, 2013, 05:22:18 PM
What about Callum Bartlett? I thought he was pretty stiff? Will you rookie him?
Dont think we will. Was very stiff to delist him I think aswell. Same goes for O'Brien. Wish we'd delist spuds like Banfield instead of these guys :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 15, 2013, 05:28:43 PM
What about Callum Bartlett? I thought he was pretty stiff? Will you rookie him?
Dont think we will. Was very stiff to delist him I think aswell. Same goes for O'Brien. Wish we'd delist spuds like Banfield instead of these guys :(
Banfield got delisted 2 days ago ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 15, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
What about Callum Bartlett? I thought he was pretty stiff? Will you rookie him?
Dont think we will. Was very stiff to delist him I think aswell. Same goes for O'Brien. Wish we'd delist spuds like Banfield instead of these guys :(
Banfield got delisted 2 days ago ???
He's going to be rookie listed though
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 15, 2013, 05:38:56 PM
We had to delist Bartlett because I think he had been on rookie list for 2 years.  Would not be surprised if we do pick him up again.  Would prefer to rookie list Bartlett than Banfield to be honest.  Injuries have cruelled his AFL career.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 17, 2013, 07:01:05 AM
West will ruin Sam Michaels JS  :'(  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 21, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
Awesome night by the Lions tonight. Aish >:D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 21, 2013, 07:49:04 PM
Awesome night by the Lions tonight. Aish >:D

you see him getting games in 2014?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on November 21, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
Great drafting tonight. Really happy with what we got

- 2 quality midfielders in Aish and Lewis Taylor

- 2 key backs in Darcy Gardiner and Daniel McStay

- A half back rebounder/winger with Tom Cutler

- Don't know too much about Robertson, but seems a similar player to Cutler

- Another key forward in Freeman who looks encouraging

- A rookie upgrade for Justin Clarke who had a very good debut year

Very happy with that draft night, couldn't have done much better!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 21, 2013, 07:54:39 PM
Aish is an excellent pick up. Well done Brisbane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 21, 2013, 08:05:24 PM
One negative in the draft - we didn't promote Sam Michael. :'(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 21, 2013, 08:07:24 PM
Very good night for you guys I reckon. Deserve it with all the off-season shower that happened. Onya Brissy! ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 21, 2013, 08:08:01 PM
One negative in the draft - we didn't promote Sam Michael. :'(

did nothing to deserve a promotion lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on November 21, 2013, 08:08:58 PM
Just did nothing in general :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 21, 2013, 08:10:50 PM
Just did nothing in general :P
He dominated against Geelong
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Dudge on November 21, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
I think the Lions done extremely well, great draft for you guys
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on November 21, 2013, 08:30:55 PM
Leppa is going to have to find room for him. can't leave him out
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 21, 2013, 08:48:02 PM
One negative in the draft - we didn't promote Sam Michael. :'(
I think if they did then the night would of been ruined.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 21, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
Just got home from a meeting and really think we have done well with the draft. Sets us up nicely for future to offset thye losses. Think we will still have the third youngest list as well.

Would have liked to see another forawrd recruited although we may develop one of the defenders in to a forward.

Pick 34 Nick Robertson
DOB 3/6/95
Height 191cm
Weight 88kg
Position Midfielder

Pick 33 Tom Cutler
DOB 20/2/95
Height 190cm
Weight 85kg
Position Defender

Pick 28 Lewis Taylor
DOB 17/2/95
Height 173cm
Weight 73kg
Position Small midfielder/forward

Pick 25 Daniel McStay
DOB 24/6/95
Height 194cm
Weight 88kg
Position Tall defender

Pick 22 Darcy Gardiner
DOB 22/9/95
Height 192cm
Weight 85kg
Position Tall defender

Pick 7 James Aish
DOB 8/11/95
Height 184cm
Weight 75kg
Position Midfielder

These are great replacemments for the go home cry babies.

can see Aish competing with Mayes and Clay Beams for a position in 22. Others may still need development.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 21, 2013, 10:11:33 PM
I'm sad Aishy is leaving Norwood but you guys certainly have a good player on your hands
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on November 21, 2013, 11:06:16 PM
Guess those mummies boys won't be very missed.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 22, 2013, 06:30:19 AM
McStay better live up to his name >:D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on November 22, 2013, 10:11:24 AM
Now you just need Aish to not want to go home in 2 years time  :-\
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 22, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
I think the Lions deserve and massive well done/congrats on an excellent draft.

@Ringo: I wouldn't be surprised to see McStay be tried as a forward. Has played there before and does a pretty decent job. Handy swingman, a bit like Sauce.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 22, 2013, 12:17:46 PM
I think the Lions deserve and massive well done/congrats on an excellent draft.

@Ringo: I wouldn't be surprised to see McStay be tried as a forward. Has played there before and does a pretty decent job. Handy swingman, a bit like Sauce.
Thanks Nigey May be the case although we have a few developing forwqrads in Paparone and Close as well.

We are well served for the future with maguire, Merrett and Patfull all turning 30 this year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on November 22, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
Lions were deffinetly one of the big winners of this years draft

Brisbane is slowly building one of the best young midfield crop throughout the entire AFL

Jack Redden
Tom Rockliff
Daniel Rich
Andrew Raines
Brent Moloney
Sam Mayes
James Aish
Lewis Taylor

Then to have guys like Dayne Zorko, Pearce Hanley and Clay Beams all looking for more midfield time its looking like a very strong lineup.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on November 22, 2013, 12:33:10 PM
Also i think Brisbane might be the only team in the league to have more defenders and forwards on their list than midfielders
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 22, 2013, 12:42:46 PM
Interesting observation Noz and you may be correct when I do the final analysis but players like Zorko, Bewick and Polkinghorne may also be classed as DPP players with mid time.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on November 26, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
Looks like Todd Banfield might get picked up by the Tigers. That would be weird after he went on our pre-season trip to Arizona.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 26, 2013, 06:52:46 PM
Looks like Todd Banfield might get picked up by the Tigers. That would be weird after he went on our pre-season trip to Arizona.
You guys have a pick before us. Surely you'd take him?  ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on November 26, 2013, 06:55:33 PM
Looks like Todd Banfield might get picked up by the Tigers. That would be weird after he went on our pre-season trip to Arizona.
You guys have a pick before us. Surely you'd take him?  ???
We might. I assume we were probably looking at getting him with our second round pick if no one else was interested in him. Might have to waste our first-rounder on him now.

Personally, I would prefer for him to go to the Tigers. Just a waste of space on our list right now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on November 26, 2013, 06:55:55 PM
Looks like Todd Banfield might get picked up by the Tigers. That would be weird after he went on our pre-season trip to Arizona.

I'm not sold on this rumour tbh after the players we selected in the National Draft. ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 26, 2013, 07:09:51 PM
Yessssss!!! He can go flower himself.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on November 26, 2013, 08:15:19 PM
if injury strikes our little fellas we'll need him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on November 26, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
Banfield was told he can either get paid out a year and get delisted or oh onto the rookie list. He chose the rookie list
Not sure how the Tigers interest affects this
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on November 27, 2013, 03:38:19 PM
Any reason why Jordan Bourke wasn't elevated of the rookie list had a pretty good year in the NEAFL?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: TeeJay on November 27, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
Lions were deffinetly one of the big winners of this years draft

Brisbane is slowly building one of the best young midfield crop throughout the entire AFL

Jack Redden
Tom Rockliff
Daniel Rich
Andrew Raines
Brent Moloney
Sam Mayes
James Aish
Lewis Taylor

Then to have guys like Dayne Zorko, Pearce Hanley and Clay Beams all looking for more midfield time its looking like a very strong lineup.

That's a bit of a premature call when 2 of those guys haven't played a game yet, 1 has only played 18 games and one is at the end of his career.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 27, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
Any reason why Jordan Bourke wasn't elevated of the rookie list had a pretty good year in the NEAFL?
If we did not have the go home factor Noz suspect we would have elevated him.  But as can be seen we had sound draft picks that set us up for the future. Jordan has only just turned 19 so there is time as well but would expect him to be elevated next year especially if as expected Brownie retires,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 27, 2013, 04:22:51 PM
Lions were deffinetly one of the big winners of this years draft

Brisbane is slowly building one of the best young midfield crop throughout the entire AFL

Jack Redden
Tom Rockliff
Daniel Rich
Andrew Raines
Brent Moloney
Sam Mayes
James Aish
Lewis Taylor

Then to have guys like Dayne Zorko, Pearce Hanley and Clay Beams all looking for more midfield time its looking like a very strong lineup.

That's a bit of a premature call when 2 of those guys haven't played a game yet, 1 has only played 18 games and one is at the end of his career.
Just highlighting the depth we have in the midfield Teejay as well but you must admit it is very strong looking when you now add O'Brien and Robertson to the mix as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 27, 2013, 04:48:02 PM
I think there was never any doubt that the Lions had a strong young midfield before and after the draft.

The main issue is when the players do hit their prime, are they going to be able to compete as a genuine contender vs Gold Coast and GWS?

I'm not sure, but there are a couple of other younger teams also coming through like Collingwood, Sydney and Western Bulldogs that might make it harder down the road

Speculation of course :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 28, 2013, 09:02:53 AM
Now that drafts are completed I think we are one of the winners of the draft along with St Kilda.

Probably one of the biggest turnover of players that I have seen in recent years.

Out:
Todd Banfield - To Richmond
Callum Bartlett (del)
Simon Black (ret)
Aaron Cornelius (del)
Sam Docherty  - Carlton
Patrick Karnezis Collingwood
Billy Longer  St Kilda
Niall McKeever (del)
Richard Newell (del)
Jesse O'Brien (del)
Jared Polec - Port Adelaide
Stephen Wrigley (del)
Elliot Yeo  West Coast

Ins:
We traded reasonably well for the go home lads and secured 6 picks in the first 2 rounds of the National Draft and these were well used.
Trent West - Geelong Handy addition and will play with Leppas 2 ruck policy
Jackson Paine - Collingwood Tall forward who will add to our forward depth
James Aish - Midfielder reday to play and a Steal at Pick 7
Darcy Gardiner - Tall defender and will boost defensive stocks
Daniel McStay - Rebounding defender and handy replacement for Docherty
Lewis Taylor - A Small crumbing forward who was surprisingly available at pick 28
Tom Cutler - Versatile player who can play across half back, wing and can go through mid field
Nick Roberton - Another versatile player with a big body who will add to midfield depth
Johnno Freeman - Academy Player who will be developed as a forward
Justin Clarke elevated from Rookie list - showed what he could do last year when called up and deserves promotion and will be a regular in defence
Rookies
Isaac Conway - Thought he would have been picked up late in National Draft but pleased to Rookie list him. Was Captain of the Qld Under 18 side so has leadership qualities as well. Strong Bodied midfielder who has been in the Academy for the last 12 months
Zac O'Brien - Strong Bodied Inside Midfielder
Archie Smith - Project Player as a Ruckman following conversion from basketball 12 months ago. Made the Qld Under 18 team after a few games of AFL.

Overall we have added depth and covered departing players. With both the coaching and off field dramas now settled the future looks bright for the club and while we amy not make the 8 this year (a probability though) 2015 will start to see us really rise.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 28, 2013, 09:18:52 AM
Lewis Taylor is more of midfielder than a small forward.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 28, 2013, 09:49:09 AM
Who's Tim Conway? Lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 28, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
Think he played for Aspley Hornets or some other mediocre team!!!

And in case you have forgotten here is some highlights from the under 18 championships featuring Conway.

http://www.lions.com.au/video/2013-11-28/isaac-conway-highlights

may have to take him with my rookie pick  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on November 28, 2013, 11:13:38 AM
It's Issac Conway. That's why I said it lol. Even in your link it says Issac :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on November 28, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
what's an Isaac Conway? ooh around about 83kg
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 28, 2013, 12:05:07 PM
It's Issac Conway. That's why I said it lol. Even in your link it says Issac :P
Sorry Lez did not pick up on that. My bad
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on November 29, 2013, 08:50:29 PM
Lewis Taylor is more of midfielder than a small forward.

From what I can see he can play both roles pretty admirably. Thing is, at 173cm, unless he has amazing skills/pace he will unlikely ever be able to play as an out and out midfielder. He's just too small. A small forward that can rotate through the midfield is a pretty fair adjudication imo.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 30, 2013, 08:58:28 AM
Lewis Taylor is more of midfielder than a small forward.

From what I can see he can play both roles pretty admirably. Thing is, at 173cm, unless he has amazing skills/pace he will unlikely ever be able to play as an out and out midfielder. He's just too small. A small forward that can rotate through the midfield is a pretty fair adjudication imo.
Wouldn't complain if he became a small forward for my BXVs team.  ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on January 06, 2014, 07:51:18 AM
Bump!

What order will the rookies be upgraded? I would think: Michael, Conway, Smith, with Bourke, Hayes and O'Brien after that, or will O'Brien be upgraded earlier as he's an older recruit?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 06, 2014, 08:36:12 AM
Will depend on injuries as to order,
 
O'Brien and Conway are both inside mid fielders. O'Brien is a hard nut at the ball and a mature aged player with clean hands  whereas Izzy Conway is a very strong below the knees and has leadership qualities but needs a bit more body development. So if a mid was required think O'Brien would get the nod before Izzy.

Hayes and Bourke are both strong marking forwards - So if forward was required would be a toss of the coin between the two. Little between them so either would warrant selection.

Michael and Smith are both ruckman. The added dimension to Michael is that he can play as a tall defender. In training drills this year he has been used as a defender rather than in ruck so should injury occur to a defender or ruck Michael would get the nod.

Archie Smith has only played a handful of games so this will be another development year for him and can not see him getting promoted this year. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Football Factory on January 06, 2014, 11:41:45 AM
Hey Ringo, what you think about McGuane getting games for Brissy next year, i hear he will play centre half forward ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 06, 2014, 01:12:11 PM
Hey Ringo, what you think about McGuane getting games for Brissy next year, i hear he will play centre half forward ?
McGuanne, Paine and Lisle imo will be vying for the centre half forward position at Brisbane this year. It has been intimated Brownie will be playing closer to goal this year so opening up the CHF. Will definitely depend on pre season performance as to who gets the initial shot at it.  All 3 are training with the forward group.  Was the first time I have seen McGuane and he looks a little awkward to me with his body shape (really skinny legs) that seems to effect him from time to time.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Football Factory on January 06, 2014, 01:26:31 PM
Thanks Ringo, he's in my BXV team was the reason i asked, was just wondering how he was going at training.

Found an article that said he will jockey for a position at either end, hopefully he becomes a good player for Brissy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: quinny88 on January 06, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
Hey Ringo, what you think about McGuane getting games for Brissy next year, i hear he will play centre half forward ?
McGuanne, Paine and Lisle imo will be vying for the centre half forward position at Brisbane this year. It has been intimated Brownie will be playing closer to goal this year so opening up the CHF. Will definitely depend on pre season performance as to who gets the initial shot at it.  All 3 are training with the forward group.  Was the first time I have seen McGuane and he looks a little awkward to me with his body shape (really skinny legs) that seems to effect him from time to time.

Yep awkward sums Mcguanne up perfectly but despite being skinny he is deceivingly strong and quite athletic so can definitely play at CHF. Never gonna be a gun but will hopefully play a role while you develop a kid for that position.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on January 06, 2014, 06:06:32 PM
Mayes Best 22?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 06, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
As I have said Vinny - Mayes, Beams and Aish will be competing for 2 positions imo.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on January 06, 2014, 06:56:14 PM
100% guarantee Mayes will play round 1 barring injury. His future is locked in the team. Aish will probably be in there as well
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 06, 2014, 07:02:53 PM
Tend to agree with you Strikes  Mayes will probably sow up one leaving Aish and Beams for the other, Preseason form will decide. Beams is still not in full training so that may hold him back a little
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on January 06, 2014, 09:39:33 PM
Tend to agree with you Strikes  Mayes will probably sow up one leaving Aish and Beams for the other, Preseason form will decide. Beams is still not in full training so that may hold him back a little

I think leppa should give James 5 weeks. see how he copes if he's a bit raw and not having enough effect maybe a stint in the 2nds for a bit could help him. But I'm confident he will adapt well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on January 15, 2014, 12:15:48 PM
Anyone up for the idea of a Lions DT/SC league?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on January 16, 2014, 01:02:50 AM
yep, keen
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on January 16, 2014, 01:03:17 AM
not in the slightest.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on January 16, 2014, 01:04:59 AM
not in the slightest.

How unfortunate
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on January 16, 2014, 01:07:13 AM
I already struggle to cut like 10 leagues down to 5 lol. :(

Actually maybe I could do SC if I have a slot...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 16, 2014, 07:55:49 AM
Sorry Nate but my SC Leagues are full - Could do a Real DT one if necessary
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on January 16, 2014, 08:44:54 PM
What rank is McCauley in terms of rucking at Brisbane? I don't know him at all.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on January 16, 2014, 08:48:14 PM
What rank is McCauley in terms of rucking at Brisbane? I don't know him at all.
Who's McCauley  ??? ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 16, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
What rank is McCauley in terms of rucking at Brisbane? I don't know him at all.
McCauley's not even in the AFL these days buddy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 16, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
What rank is McCauley in terms of rucking at Brisbane? I don't know him at all.
McCauley's not even in the AFL these days buddy.
Think we delisted him in 2011
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on January 16, 2014, 08:54:59 PM
Oh haha sorry I was just looking through my new EXV list and seeing who I should delist, my bad. :-\

Why didnt Torp delist him two years ago? ???
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on January 16, 2014, 09:01:32 PM
Oh haha sorry I was just looking through my new EXV list and seeing who I should delist, my bad. :-\

Why didnt Torp delist him two years ago? ???
Delisted by Brisbane in 2011. Played for the Hawks in 2012 and then retired at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on January 16, 2014, 09:11:19 PM
Here he is!

(http://i39.tinypic.com/152e1ap.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on January 18, 2014, 12:23:22 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-18/aish-quick-to-settle-as-a-happy-cub
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on January 21, 2014, 03:21:41 PM
looking at a picture mayes looks massive
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: _wato on January 21, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
Oh haha sorry I was just looking through my new EXV list and seeing who I should delist, my bad. :-\

Why didnt Torp delist him two years ago? ???

Bloody hell Vin, hopeless! Hahaha
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on February 15, 2014, 12:01:09 AM
It's rather dead in here.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 15, 2014, 03:57:18 PM
OK Just to get a discussion going.

Who is likely to debut first Aish or Robbo. I think Robbo has been the more impressive preseason to date.

Also is Lester in our best 22. Very solid performance on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on February 15, 2014, 04:21:46 PM
OK Just to get a discussion going.

Who is likely to debut first Aish or Robbo. I think Robbo has been the more impressive preseason to date.

Also is Lester in our best 22. Very solid performance on Thursday night.
Where was Lester playing? Should he slot in where Yeo left?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 15, 2014, 04:28:36 PM
Lester was playing in mids on Thursday
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on February 15, 2014, 04:30:01 PM
OK. I dont see him slotting straight into the midfield, with Moloney, Rich, Redden, Rockliff and Hanley. Should play back?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on February 15, 2014, 09:13:15 PM
Lester is a must i reckon. playing him off half back wouldn't be too bad, he's a good runner and has a decent disposal. Could even push golby out at the moment. Aish V Robertson... probably aishy just by watching on Thursday. I'm sure they'll both line up against gc so we'll get another good look at them.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on February 16, 2014, 11:48:25 AM
Both Aish and Robbo will be vital for their team structure so you would think they would both play the majority of the season right?

Robbo being the less likely to receive the vest however i believe as he won't be as damaging when he comes on as someone like an Aish would be.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on February 19, 2014, 04:02:42 PM
Leppitsch expecting Aish to play threw the midfield and forward line. Looks like he could get a few games in his first year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on February 21, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Strong team as expected against GC, Leppa looking at the forwards still with Close, Lisle and Freeman named. Robertson, Aish, Crisp, Cuttler all still in there as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 21, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
Yes Strikes suspect a couple may not make final cut.  Bourke although rookie listed is an interseting inclusion as well given we have no injuries to warrant promotion unless we do still have a vacancy on senior which I suspect is still the case.

Cutler looks to have the inside running for a back spot.  Will be interesting to see how Beams performs on Sunday with all back including Robbo and Aish,

Close, Lisle, Freeman and McGuanne imo will be competing for CHF Position assuming we play both West and Berger.

Staker and Brown to come into team for Round 1  McGrath probably will be there as well as the only changes I see for round 1. (Staker and McGrath carrying minor injuries),
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on February 23, 2014, 08:54:20 PM
So after today, McGuane should get named round 1, and Close ahead of Lisle?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on February 23, 2014, 09:25:51 PM
McGuane probably has it indeed. Mayes will be best 22 with Paparone entering the competition for a spot now. Thought Aish did very well but got a little fatigued and sloppy at the end. Zorko, Rocky and Redden were fantastic.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on February 23, 2014, 09:28:52 PM
Sneaky Rumor about a big play for jonathan patton for next season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on February 23, 2014, 10:08:37 PM
I think there'll be a number of teams making a play for Patton next season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 24, 2014, 08:02:28 AM
Think this is possibly starting to look like our first Round Team:

Clarke - Merrett - Patful
Golby - Adcock - Hanley
Rich - Moloney - Rockliff
Staker - Brown - Zorko
Green - McGuane - Lester
Luey - Mayes - Redden

Harwood -West - Robertson

Aish/Beams (Sub)

Have heard the rumour about Patton also but think that if we have a few step up this year would prefer to develop them.  In saying that Leppa has made it known that he wants to be active in this trade period.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on February 24, 2014, 08:04:32 AM
No room for Maguire?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 24, 2014, 08:38:37 AM
On form shown in preseason and intra club trial Maguire would be struggling - May replace Clarke but can not see it.  Also found it hard to leave McGrath out who is undoubtedly the most accurate kick at the club,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on February 24, 2014, 11:14:02 AM
Damn, based on that Ringo it seems Cutler misses out. He scored well when given the TOG so was hoping for a cheap backline rook :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on February 24, 2014, 11:17:50 AM
On form shown in preseason and intra club trial Maguire would be struggling - May replace Clarke but can not see it.  Also found it hard to leave McGrath out who is undoubtedly the most accurate kick at the club,
Well he might be the most accurate kick, but if you can't get the ball then it doesn't matter :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on February 24, 2014, 11:43:28 AM
Damn, based on that Ringo it seems Cutler misses out. He scored well when given the TOG so was hoping for a cheap backline rook :P
Cutler would be vying with Clarke and Maguire for a position in the back line Ele. Clarke imo is in front but do not discard as a possible bench option instead of Harwood.  Would depend on what Structure Leppa wants to use.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on February 24, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Think this is possibly starting to look like our first Round Team:

Clarke - Merrett - Patful
Golby - Adcock - Hanley
Rich - Moloney - Rockliff
Staker - Brown - Zorko
Green - McGuane - Lester
Luey - Mayes - Redden

Harwood -West - Robertson

Aish/Beams (Sub)

Have heard the rumour about Patton also but think that if we have a few step up this year would prefer to develop them.  In saying that Leppa has made it known that he wants to be active in this trade period.

looks about right ringo. Robertson, Aish, Beams and Paparone going for 2 spots.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on March 07, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-03-07/my-best-22-forwards (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-03-07/my-best-22-forwards)

Interesting article. Strange to see he has Paparone ahead of Close.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 07, 2014, 06:46:37 PM
The only change I weould see as I do not Staker as a CHF would be McGuanne/Lisle to CHF and Staker to foward pocket instead of Paparone. Paparone, Close and paine will all push for selection as well throughout the season.

Raines is the other interesting one although I would have Lester in that position and the sub between Raines . Close or Beams.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 07, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
I think Raines will depend on the opposition. For example, if we're playing Gold Coast, I can see Raines in the side tagging Ablett. However, against maybe the Dees he will likely be dropped.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on March 16, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
Watching GWS and the Suns win I think puts pressure on us. We can't just come out and put in a poor effort. If we do get thrashed i'm just imaging the media already.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 16, 2014, 05:23:19 PM
Real pressure on us - and we do not have an easy draw with Hawks and Cats in first 2 rounds. Then follows Suns at Metricon and that will not be easy either.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on March 20, 2014, 06:08:47 PM
B Ryan Harwood (2) Daniel Merrett (21) Jed Adcock (7)
HB Justin Clarke (42) Joel Patfull (24) Mitch Golby (41)
C Pearce Hanley (11) Daniel Rich (10) James Aish (4)
HF Josh Green (6) Trent West (13) Dayne Zorko (15)
F Sam Mayes (32) Jonathan Brown (16) Tom Rockliff (38)
FOLL Matthew Leuenberger (23) Jack Redden (30) Brent Moloney (3)

INT Marco Paparone (22) Lewis Taylor (28) Michael Close (32) Ryan Lester (35)

Emergency: Rohan Bewick (8) Nick Robertson (18) Jordan Lisle (19)

Bring on Saturday
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on March 20, 2014, 06:21:11 PM
Nice team we have named. Keen to see how the new boys go. I'd assume Taylor is probably going to get the vest? Or maybe Lester?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 20, 2014, 09:05:32 PM
Taylor will probably get the vest imo due to his limited preseason. remember he has only been in fulltrining for 4 weeks. Strange though we have 3 forwards on the interchange and Lester can be classed as HF also. Wait for the furore with Rocky named forward.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on March 21, 2014, 07:41:35 AM
Hey Ringo, do yiu think Mayes will play more on the wing or forward?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on March 21, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
Are you guys surprised to see Taylor in the team this week given he's a first year player who's had an interrupted pre-season?

He must be rated fairly highly if he's been thrust straight into a match against the reigning premiers off a limited pre-season?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 21, 2014, 09:39:35 AM
I was surprised to see him named as when you look at the bench Close, Paparone, Taylor and to a certain extent Lester are all forwards.  Golby and Clarke also coming off interrupted seasons so was expecting to see Cutler named as cover myself.
Expect Close to start on the field for Rocky to give us structure as I can not see him starting forward.

nrich I expect Mayes to floating down the wings similar to what he was doing last year.  He was also playing that role in the trials.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on March 21, 2014, 04:37:17 PM
thanks ringo :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on March 21, 2014, 11:44:20 PM
what's the story with Raines?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on March 22, 2014, 01:10:25 AM
what's the story with Raines?

You might see him next week. He'll be needed for selwood.. then gary after.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 22, 2014, 07:17:34 AM
Not sure on that Strikes as Leppa may allocate run with roles rather than tag to keep team building momentum. Not really sure who he would come in for as it would upset the mid field balance we have at the moment.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Sydney14 on March 23, 2014, 09:37:43 AM
Will Rocky be playing run with roles like he did on Mitchell every week?  >:(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on March 23, 2014, 09:41:27 AM
Will Rocky be playing run with roles like he did on Mitchell every week?  >:(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on March 23, 2014, 12:10:46 PM
Will Rocky be playing run with roles like he did on Mitchell every week?  >:(

It wasn't all doom and gloom. Mitchel Dragged him to the forward line. but in the first qtr when they were playing in the middle he had no problems touching the pill and keeping Mitchell quiet.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Sydney14 on March 23, 2014, 12:18:17 PM
Will Rocky be playing run with roles like he did on Mitchell every week?  >:(

It wasn't all doom and gloom. Mitchel Dragged him to the forward line. but in the first qtr when they were playing in the middle he had no problems touching the pill and keeping Mitchell quiet.

Yeah I know, but would rather see him play an attacking game rather than a defending one. Don't want my M3 to be a tagger and I can't speak for Lions fans but if I was one I wouldn't want him playing that role.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on March 23, 2014, 01:00:39 PM
I thought it was really strange not to play Andrew Raines and even play Maguire. Playing Maguire would of allowed Lions to play Merrett up forward to try and expose the smaller Hawthorn defence.

Clarke did a good job on Roughy in the first half and the Patfull/Gunston combo worked pretty well for the Lions. Goose was more than able to stand the resting rucks in Hale/McEvoy and im pretty sure Golby can play on talls right? He could of stood O'Brien.

This would of allowed a combo of West, Brown, Papo and Merret up forward really could of smelt trouble for Gibbo and Cheney who were pretty much their only key defenders.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on March 23, 2014, 01:18:57 PM
I think Leppitsch likes to have Merrett play full back, and I also think that is his best spot on the field. We need to start developing some decent key forwards and have them be the focal point other than Merrett, who is getting on.

I thought Paparone did a decent job effort wise, but his finishing was poor. Close was also alright for his first game, but I would've like to have seen more.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on March 23, 2014, 02:00:23 PM
Keep Merrett at FB!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on March 31, 2014, 08:00:28 AM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-03-30/swans-soar-over-lions (http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-03-30/swans-soar-over-lions)

Not looking to good for our reserves :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ADEZ on April 02, 2014, 10:50:22 AM
Hey guys, how likely is at that Taylor will avoid the vest for a few more games?

Really impressed me on the weekend despite being slightly rushed with his disposal.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 02, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
Will depend on our structures Adez.  I was surprised that he was not the sub last week so the chances of avoiding would rest with Leppa. Close, Bewick  or Taylor would be the three I would consider sub material for Brisbane this week if named.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 04, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
Minimal changes for this week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 04, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
What's the word on why Harwood isn't playing ringo/others? Was dropped last week citing a shoulder injury, but then played in the reserves that weekend. Now named as an emergency this week...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 04, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
TBH HB this is one that baffles me.  Bear in mind the NEAFL was later as well. He was outed at the Friday session but recovered to take place in Reserves. Word is that it was a severe stinger to the shoulder that had fixed itself by Saturday allowing him to play in reserves.

Lisle was given that position in defence last week and I suspect he is being given a second chance at it this week. (Not like the revolving door of last year).  Expect to see him back sooner rather than later as he really needs to cement his spot this year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 06, 2014, 01:32:59 AM
That was an all time low.

Lisle, Close, Rich, Merrett out

Paine, Bourke, Harwood, Crisp in
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 06, 2014, 06:05:15 AM
Agree Strikes all time low.

This may be radical but thoughts of using Brownie as the sub. Thinking is it may confuse opoonents tactics and also when he comes on can go flat out rather than trying to pace himself through the game.

Not sure about Crisp though may be bring Nick Roberston in as the replacement for Rich. Bourke can play both ends but do not be surprised if Cutler or McStay come in for Merrett. Both these players have been putting in strong performances in the NEAFL.

So
Harwood for Lisle
Paine for Close
Robertson for Rich
Bourke, McStay or Cutler for Merrett.

Bewick may also figure in discussions.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 06, 2014, 10:12:42 AM
How many do you think Merrett will be out for? Was a bit of a brain fade wasn't it :-\

Cutler coming in would be alright for our fantasy sides though!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2014, 10:18:24 AM
How many do you think Merrett will be out for? Was a bit of a brain fade wasn't it :-\

Cutler coming in would be alright for our fantasy sides though!
Well, it was similar to the McKernan hit last year. He got two weeks. Mark Evans said that was probably a bit too lenient and that he should have got more.

Honestly, it looked really bad, he just went straight for him. God only knows what Sauce was thinking.

It's impossible to tell though. The way they grade these things and judge every incident is different.

However, if we go by the McKernan incident and what Evans said and apply that, Sauce should be getting 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 06, 2014, 10:22:44 AM
Yeah it did look bad didn't it :-\

Well looking at the points system, my guess is that it would be graded as high contact (2 points), high impact (3 points), reckless conduct (2 points)... Which is 7 activation points and a four week ban so you're probably pretty accurate there Nige. I assume he has a poor record as well so he won't be able to accept a more lenient sentence with an early plea?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GM on April 06, 2014, 11:04:13 AM
4-6 if Fyfe gets 2 for his bump
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2014, 11:28:44 AM
^ Also something that should be taken into consideration.

Probably the only thing that he's got going for him is that Swallow (it was Swallow wasn't it?) was fine (he got straight up from memory?).
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 06, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
Yeah it was Swallow. He was on his haunches for a little bit but got up after not too long so yeah might play in Merrett's favour, although it still doesn't look good for him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 06, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
14-16 if Fyfe gets 2 for his bump
fixed
Fyfe :'(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 06, 2014, 12:38:13 PM
After Rockys love Tap and Dusty getting off for his who knows what the MRP will do. Whatever is decided will have to be accepted and with Sauces record there probably will be no discount. 
TBH it was not a good look and very disappointing from a Senior player.

I am also interested to see if May will be cited for his bump on Zorko to be consistent with the Fyfe one as well.

All circumstances are different as we know but would like to see some consistency with citings.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 06, 2014, 01:10:36 PM
Merrett will get 3-4 weeks I reckon, stupid what he did. May would get 1 I reckon if the MRP is consistent, but who knows what'll happen there
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 06, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
Just confirmed that Josh Green has a hamstring injury and could miss matches as well.  Did not play last quarter.  Will probably ensure Taylors position in the side as well.

Crisp possible replacement for Green as McGrath is still a couple of weeks away,

Another option is promoting Zac O'Brien from Rookies and bringing him in.  Is a mature aged midfielder with good skills on show.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 06, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
Zorko set for more time in the middle with Rich out?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 06, 2014, 04:41:11 PM
Hard to say BB with Green likely to miss as well may keep Zorks for forward pressure.  For the next couple anyway until Green returns.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Justin Bieber on April 06, 2014, 05:24:05 PM
I think moat Lions supporters would like to see Merrett out for 10 weeks
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 07, 2014, 04:31:39 PM
So apparently Sauce only got the two matches for his hit on Swallow... Was not expecting that to say the least! :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 07, 2014, 05:01:05 PM
So apparently Sauce only got the two matches for his hit on Swallow... Was not expecting that to say the least! :o

Three down to 2. Probably got away with a match.

Richy confrimed ACL. can't see him taking the lars.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 08, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
Gardiner is now being mentioned as a possible replacement for Sauce.

Cutler may replace Rich as he has the size and speed to rung off half back.  Harwood may also be considered here.  Would like to see Robbo get a go but he is an inside player and can not see him ousting Redden or Moloney atm.  Could snare a bench spot though.

Because of his small stature Taylor may be given Greens role. Think that he secures a place in Brisbanes best 22 atm.

With Sauces suspension may not see Lisle replaced but if need be Mcstay or the other of Harwood or Cutler could replace him.

Leppa has put a self imposed of playing no more than 4 youngsters each week but may be forced to change that this week due to injuries and suspensions.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 08, 2014, 04:23:07 PM
Tom Boyd talked Gardiner up as the toughest defender he played on in his short career. Wouldn't hate seeing him get his debut. Cutler for Rich is also on the cards. Robertson got 30 touches and 9 clearances on the weekend so he'll be in consideration as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mr.Craig on April 09, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
Because of his small stature Taylor may be given Greens role. Think that he secures a place in Brisbanes best 22 atm.

Best 21?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 12, 2014, 11:18:28 PM
who we taking with pick 1 at the draft ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 13, 2014, 12:37:07 PM
Will have wait till after the Round 11 Match on 31st May to see if we still have the number 1 pick.  Playing Carlton at the Gabba.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Burger on April 14, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
Hey guys. Who will be coming in for Luenberger? Our ruck stocks are really depleted at the moment, with Sam Michael and Stef Martin (is he actually any good?) injured, leaving only Trent West and Archie Smith, who I don't think is quite good enough for AFL level yet. Will West do solo rucking with help from Lisle or another tall, or should we call up Jono Freeman who has been doing some rucking in the reserves. I think that that West should just do the rucking, with Lisle or someone pinch hitting, and we should bring in someone who can give us more pace.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 14, 2014, 08:01:10 PM
I'd imagine Trent West will ruck for the most part with somebody pinch hitting from time to time.

Sauce Merrett seems the obvious candidate, but he's suspended atm.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2014, 08:08:36 PM
Sam Michael was listed as possibly returning this week so whether we put him straight in with West may be a risk. Michael has been training as a defender in the Senior group so he may come in as a defender and then ruck as required. Lisle was doing the pinch hitting after Berger went down as well. Michael would need to be elevated off the rookie list but we have not elevated anyone for Rich at the moment.
Would not like to see Freeman used as ruck at this stage of his development especially against big bodied rucks.
Maybe we will see Brownie ruck in the forward half and Lisle ruck in the defensive half as required. Do not laugh but Brownie did some rucking on Saturday.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 14, 2014, 09:00:23 PM
I'm expecting Goose to come into the team. Might help out West.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: roo boys! on April 14, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
I'm expecting Goose to come into the team. Might help out West.
I was about to ask where the Goose has been. Especially with Merrett out as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 15, 2014, 05:26:47 AM
I'm expecting Goose to come into the team. Might help out West.
I was about to ask where the Goose has been. Especially with Merrett out as well.
He's been in the 2s playing up forward :O
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2014, 06:45:12 AM
I'm expecting Goose to come into the team. Might help out West.
I was about to ask where the Goose has been. Especially with Merrett out as well.
He's been in the 2s playing up forward :O
Goose is trying to reinvent himself as a forward and learning this trade in the twos.  With Merrett only being suspended for 2 weeks and leppa indicating he wanted to give the majority of draftees a run at some stage this was an ideal opportunity to give the opportunity hence the use of Cutler over Maguire. Am expecting Gardiner may come into consideration if Michael not brought in this week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 15, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Will Cutler hold his place for a few do you think boys?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2014, 10:08:19 AM
Will depend on the structure Leppa decides to go with. Expect him to hold this week though given the reserves were belted and both McStay and Gardiner did not shine.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 15, 2014, 10:08:55 AM
Hopefully he will hold his spot then, thinking of jumping on as a downgrade next week if he holds his spot.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on April 15, 2014, 11:09:28 AM
Unbelievable that the lions haven't won a quarter. .... I think
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 15, 2014, 12:08:08 PM
Unbelievable that the lions haven't won a quarter. .... I think
Spot on Oss - Have been close a number of times but our issues with not running out the quarters is hurting us bad.  So far and only after 4 rounds we have leaked 138 points in the red zones worst in the League.  So we need to fix this up to win quarters.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 15, 2014, 12:10:14 PM
Sounds like a mixture of fitness and inexperience Ringo. Your kids will learn from that with more games under the belt
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 15, 2014, 08:21:38 PM
Will depend on the structure Leppa decides to go with. Expect him to hold this week though given the reserves were belted and both McStay and Gardiner did not shine.

Golby should be dropped. Pathetic attitude on the weekend and having a go at a team mate after he got caught holding the ball is not on
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 16, 2014, 06:41:43 AM
Will depend on the structure Leppa decides to go with. Expect him to hold this week though given the reserves were belted and both McStay and Gardiner did not shine.

Golby should be dropped. Pathetic attitude on the weekend and having a go at a team mate after he got caught holding the ball is not on
Thought I was the only one who noticed that which is why I did not post anything about it.  But agree.  Golby has outstanding talent but as you point put his attitude at times leaves a lot to be desired, A stint in the 2's may turn it around but may not happen due to what happened last year with the go home factor.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on April 16, 2014, 03:49:26 PM
What was the scenario with the guy getting caught with the ball?

Like, if it was a giant cock up he deserves to get called on it. Nothing more frustrating than a player who thinks they can be a one man team/ overestimating their ability and getting pinged for it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 16, 2014, 06:06:50 PM
Would have preferred to see Golby dropped rather than Harwood myself. 

Yes understand sometimes frustrations get to you but you have to support team mates at all times regardless of errors made.  You save that for the dressing room but am I too old fashioned.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 16, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
Keen to see Gardiner and McGuane debut for the club tomorrow.

Hopefully we can put up a decent contest, and maybe just come away with a win.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 16, 2014, 06:18:52 PM
I will be in the Southern Stand in my members seat cheering the boys on.  The one real draw back is McInerney as one of the umpires and we have not won any free kick counts when he has been an officiating umpire for a number of years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 16, 2014, 06:27:17 PM
Team is way to tall again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 16, 2014, 06:27:58 PM
Damn, I really hate McInerney.

Still, it will be good to have the game on free to air for once. And especially in Brownie's 250th!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 16, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
Whilst we are tall Strikes just remember there is no resting Ruckman as Lisle will ruck while West is off the field. Also Lester and Bewick on the bench will help though.  Would like to see Taylor get more involved in that small forward role though as he should be at the feet of the talls more.
Leppa has also encouraged them to play attacking football tomorrow night so should be great to see.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 09:18:39 AM
Team is way to tall again.

What's the weather meant to be like up in Brisbane?

Will be interesting to see how Guan goes against his former club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 17, 2014, 09:47:31 AM
It is fine and clear at the moment Toga and predicted to be fine any maybe a little cool for Brisbane at game time around 20 degrees.  Only real issue at the Gabba this time of the year is the dew that is on the ground which makes the ball a little greasy.
Guan was knocking the door down as he had kicked 9 goals in reserves in the last 2 weeks. From my observation he is a strong overhead mark but those real skinny legs worry me.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 17, 2014, 11:07:19 AM
Sounds like great footy conditions!

Yeah Guan always showed bits and pieces but never consistently. Hopefully he can do something good for you guys... Maybe not this week though ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 17, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
forecasted dew point is pretty low so it shouldn't be too bad
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 18, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
Few observations from last nights game.

1. McGuane was a disappointment and did not grasp the opportunity presented.  May find himslef back in the 2's next week,  He should have been the one subbed instead of Paine.
2. Moloney unless he had a niggle should not have been the sub.  We really miss his work around the clearances.
3. Nick Robertson will develop into a strong inside mid. He was good last night winning some contested possessions. Kept up with Cotchin in the first quarter,
4. Darcy Gardiner had a sound debut but needs to control his agresssion. One his indiscretions cost us a goal.
5. Red zone is still an issue for us. 4 goals to Richmond late in 3rd quarter stiffled our momentum.  Although aided by some dubious umpiring decisions we still should not have allowed this many unanswered.
6. Patfull on Riewoldt did not work. Patfull although a sound defender does not have the closing speed to matchup.
7.  We still need to find support for Brownie up front.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 18, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
Surprised you didn't mention Cutler ringo.

Outstanding performance. Looks very calm with the ball
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 18, 2014, 11:06:48 AM
Wanted to keep Cutler under the radar for my SC downgrade  ;) ;)

In Sc last weeks 19 will keep his price rise minimal and will be a nice downgrade for McDonald or Langdon prior to their byes.

Yes looks very good but just wondering whether he will keep his Place when Hanley comes back. Not impressed with Golby as yet this year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 18, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
The Lions did very well with their picks.

Taylor, Cutler, Robertson, Aish all looked good.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on April 18, 2014, 11:29:21 AM
Brisbane showed last night that their future is not all that bleak.

Robbo, Cutler, Gardiner, Aish, Taylor all played for the first time last night meaning 5 of their 7 draft picks have now played. So far all 5 of them have shown enough to have long careers at Brisbane. I still think McStay could be the best of the lot behind Aish. Surprised he didn't play last night especially with Merrett out suspended. Freeman also has talent.

Mayes has already shown he will be an elite player. Rocky, Redden, Zorko are all elite players.

Though Brisbane supporters are going through a rough patch there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 18, 2014, 12:10:56 PM
Yes we have a handy bunch coming up and credit to our recruiters who recruited well to cover the losses.  From our team last night Bewick was playing his 50th game and Aish, Zorko, Robertson, Paparone, Cutler, Gardiner, Taylor, Mayes, Lester, Golby and Clarke have all played less than 50 games. So more than half our team had 50 games or less experience so an exciting future.

Suspect McStay and Freeman will get games in the future as Leppa has indicated he hopes to give all draftees a run at some time.  He probably did not expect to have 5 used by Round 5 though.

Agree we are probably at the bottom of the cycle and will have to endure a bit more pain this year but can turn it around.  Port supporters know about this as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 18, 2014, 12:22:55 PM
Really happy with how all the kids looked last night.

Robertson plays exactly like Moloney and will be a good like for like replacement in the guts.

Taylor showed a lot of dash and is another good small forward type. Is there room for him, Green and Zorko though?

Cutler had poise with the ball and looked good with it in hand.

Didn't see too much of Gardiner but he looks a likely type.

McGuane was very disappointing though. On negative DT at 3QT and just couldn't get his hands on the ball. Still need a key forward to develop.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on April 18, 2014, 12:25:28 PM
Yes we have gone through a rough couple of years but things have finally turned around and its only a matter of time before Brisbane do the same.

Brisbane have one of the best young midfield groups in the AFL as you mentioned a lot of players have played less than 100 games and even more have played less than 50 games. The loss of Daniel Rich hurts. Trent West has shown enough he can be serviceable until Leuenberger returns.

If one of McGuane, Paine or Paparone can string together a couple of consistently good games the whole club will see a turn around. You would know this as better as anyone Ringo too many times the great play built up across half back and through the middle is not rewarded up front due to the lack of talls being able to muscle there way to the front and take a mark.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 18, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Surely Harwood to come back in to the side next week? I don't understand why he is consistently in and out of the side. He's such a good user of the ball bringing it out of the defensive half, they just need to give him consistent game time.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 18, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
I agree, I like Harwood's run out of half back, and it is especially important now that Hanley is out. Hope he gets an extended run in the side this year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 18, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
Can not put my finger on it but for some unknown reason Golby seems to be preferred to Harwood. Golby's disposal efficiency is worse that Harwoods and his run and carry is a lot less effective than Harwood.  Unless the selection committee see something that I don't I am at a loss to explain why. 
With Cutler performing a similar role now it will be interesting what happens when Hanley returns.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 19, 2014, 12:37:09 AM
Golby would be first player dropped if i was making the choices.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 23, 2014, 12:59:27 PM
Merrett, Green, Hanley, Raines and Polkinghorne all flew to Wellington as well so Team selection tomorrow will be interesting.  Been trying to find out if any of last weeks team were left at home but can not.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 23, 2014, 01:17:48 PM
Flippin' Hanley..
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: The_Captain on April 23, 2014, 01:53:41 PM
Are Brisbane gonna get up for the Diggers? Or should i keep my Tip as Saints? THinking Brissy are due for a big one. Just not sure when.. Hows West doing in ruck? Surely have Hicky covered?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on April 23, 2014, 02:18:30 PM
Well if Brisbane can't win in Australia maybe they can win in a new country.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 24, 2014, 09:01:16 PM
Do not know wht you think of our changes this week.

IN: Josh Green, Pearce Hanley, Daniel Merrett, James Polkinghorne, Andrew Raines

OUT: Rohan Bewick, Mitch Golby Jordan Lisle, Jackson Paine, Brent Moloney

The outs surprise me.  Raines has been great in the NEAFL but is he better than Moloney who has looked good even though sub last week. Maybe Raines was browght in to curb Montagna.
Would have moved Lisle forward  for Paine - Polkinghorne has had his chances and not a fan but he needs to grasp this opportunity if he is to stay in seniors.

Sub will either be Taylor or Cutler imo.

Looks like Sam Mayes may be given first chop at Nroo.  Do not mind that as he can run with him but will be giving away 6cm in height though.

McGuane will definitely be on the chopping block if he has a game like last week.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 24, 2014, 09:06:32 PM
Moloney extremely unlucky, and Polks extremely lucky haha
Very surprised that Gardiner kept his spot, was almost certain he'd be replaced by Merrett. Would've liked to see Bewick get a few more games as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 24, 2014, 09:11:17 PM
To me I think Patful will go with Riewoldt and Clarke with Stanley.

Sauce to play up front and in the ruck
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 24, 2014, 09:35:14 PM
Very surprised to see Mayes at CHB, wouldn't think that would be the right role for him.

I like all the changes, except for Polkinghorne in and Moloney out.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 24, 2014, 09:43:14 PM
Is there a chance Mayes will actually play back or are they just messing with the team sheets? ???

Interesting Moloney got dropped also... Might increase Robertson's time in the middle, although Raines coming in might decrease it... Tough to say.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 24, 2014, 09:58:34 PM
Mayes did play a bit of CHB last year Toga so may be correct.

Suspect Moloney dropped for Raines - Whether they have a tagging role for him do not know but who would he tag Steven, Tags or Lenny?  Raines has been really tearing it up in the twos for the last couple of weeks so may be promoted on merit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 24, 2014, 10:01:17 PM
Oh really didn't realise. Don't think of him as being tall enough to play on the likes of Nroo, great runner though!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 24, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
Wouldn't take any notice of the list, it changes when the final teams are announced.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 24, 2014, 11:36:28 PM
So still tossing up between a downgrade to Cutler or Robertson... Who do you think has the better JS/scoring potential at this stage? Would love some insight! :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 25, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
Will give my opinion on both.
Robertson should be safe till at least Brisbane byes so long as he maintains the form he has shown in his 2 games. Will be jostling with Raines and Moloney for 2 of 3 positions. Beams is due back in 2 weeks which will make 4 into 2 and that is when the pressure may come on Robbo for JS.
Cutler at the moment appears to have the position over Golby and Harwood. Surprised Gardiner retained position with sauce returning.  So effectively it appears to be Gardiner, Harwood, Golby and Cutler contesting 2 positions. McGrath may be in the mix wjhen he returns as well. Also McStay is waiting in  the wings. So in summary Cutler will have to fight for his position a lot more than Robbo but he may be good till Brisbanes byes as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
Thanks Ringo appreciate it mate!

So you think Robbo is the way to go then? What do you think of their scoring potential?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 25, 2014, 10:41:15 AM
I will be happy with 60/70 from both. Any more is a bonus for rookies.  I always allow for 60/70 from rookies and when their B/e nears that i cull if I can.  think some people go overboard expecting big scores from Rookies.
In answer to your preference i am taking Robbo this week and possibly Cutler next week in SC.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
Cheers mate thanks for the feedback.

On another note do you think there's a chance either of those blokes could be sub? If not who do you think is a chance for it this week?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 25, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Cheers mate thanks for the feedback.

On another note do you think there's a chance either of those blokes could be sub? If not who do you think is a chance for it this week?
I reckon Taylor will be sub. If not, maybe Robbo or Cutler, but I really think it'll be Taylor.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 25, 2014, 11:16:57 AM
GL has nailed it but do not be surprised to see Aish as sub either
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 25, 2014, 11:21:37 AM
Yeah the only reason I don't think it'll be Aish was because he was the starting sub in round 3, so I think Leppa is more likely to give it to one of these guys. Maybe even Josh Green?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
I was thinking it might be Taylor, cheers GL. Just with Green coming back into the team it seems like one of them should be sub but you never really know do you :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 25, 2014, 01:21:13 PM
Yeah the only reason I don't think it'll be Aish was because he was the starting sub in round 3, so I think Leppa is more likely to give it to one of these guys. Maybe even Josh Green?

I was thinking Green as well possibly. He or Taylor.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 25, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
All you Polkinghorne haters can take a seat after he racks up 3 Brownlow votes.  ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 25, 2014, 02:34:51 PM
All you Polkinghorne haters can take a seat after he racks up 3 Brownlow votes.  ;)
Over the course of his career?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on April 25, 2014, 02:48:50 PM
All you Polkinghorne haters can take a seat after he racks up 3 Brownlow votes.  ;)
Over the course of his career?
Already done that, picked up 3 votes in 2011 from 1 game ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 25, 2014, 03:11:18 PM
All you Polkinghorne haters can take a seat after he racks up 3 Brownlow votes.  ;)
Over the course of his career?
This weekend.  ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2014, 08:39:40 PM
James Aish is a star, you guys are so lucky to have him. Rising Star nomination coming up this week!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 25, 2014, 08:42:19 PM
PS - congrats on the win ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 25, 2014, 08:53:54 PM
http://www.aflauctions.com.au/lions.htm

If interested all Jerseys worn for this game are being auctioned. All Senior Listed Players have signed and up for auction. it would appear reserve is $150 from bids made already.  Proceeds are assisting Young Diggers..

Great effort by the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Cookie311993 on April 27, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
The crowd in Wellington was very low. Seems strange that they took a match there. I didn't think the Saints would lose on recent form
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 01, 2014, 08:03:04 PM
Bewick probably the sub? have to play Taylor with Titch and Fasolo out
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 08:06:28 PM
So how come Pearcinald is out?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 01, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
How bad is Hanley's injury? I haven't seen any news about it on the club website, so I assume that it is just a bit of soreness in the back?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on May 01, 2014, 08:08:34 PM
Just a couple of questions on Gardiner and Goose. Is Goose currently out injured or what is the deal? I am just trying to gauge Gardiner's job security for my newly inherited side.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 01, 2014, 08:13:10 PM
Just a couple of questions on Gardiner and Goose. Is Goose currently out injured or what is the deal? I am just trying to gauge Gardiner's job security for my newly inherited side.
Goose is playing in the 2s :O Idk what Leppas plans for him are.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on May 01, 2014, 08:15:07 PM
Weird, I hadn't noticed him on any injury reports and I would have thought he is in the best 22. With the Sauce move forward last week Patful, Clarke and Gardiner would be the 3 tall defenders and I was trying to figure where Goose fits into the equation.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 01, 2014, 08:50:50 PM
Just to answer a couple of questions -

Hanley had some back soreness after training so not sure whether it is serious or a precaution - So that is why not on injury list.

Goose until 2 weeks ago was playing forward in the NEAFL, however has since reverted to organising the defence and is knocking on the door. With both Tippett and Buddy ruled out think Leppa wanted to keep the faith with Gardiner and Clarke and build games into them. He also has the option of bringing sauce back as well.  if required.

Bewick or Taylor imo look the likely subs. Will be interesting to see how Cutler goes with a full game.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 01, 2014, 09:40:05 PM
Hopefully the back injury isn't related to the "back Hamstring" injury
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on May 01, 2014, 10:02:59 PM
I'm amazed McGuane kept his spot ??? Am I being too harsh?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on May 01, 2014, 10:13:27 PM
I'm amazed McGuane kept his spot ??? Am I being too harsh?

Dude is a dud of epic proportions
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 01, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
Not Harsh Rusty - Would not surprise to see Polkinghorne sub with McGuane red vested out. Think he would be on last chance this week - had been killing it in NEAFL to warrant selection but has not grasped the opportunity.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Adamant on May 01, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
Cutler any chance of being the sub? he's named on the field.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 01, 2014, 11:04:13 PM
Have seen Lions fans post somewhere before that Bewick & Lewis Taylor are more likely candidates, Ads. With Hanley out you would think that Cutler should get a good look at a full game!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Adamant on May 02, 2014, 12:34:29 AM
Have seen Lions fans post somewhere before that Bewick & Lewis Taylor are more likely candidates, Ads. With Hanley out you would think that Cutler should get a good look at a full game!

Cheers Toges, but now you'll be held responsible if Cutler starts in green. :P

Just kidding. ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 02, 2014, 08:51:46 AM
Browny Uncut

http://www.lions.com.au/video/2014-05-01/footy-fix-browny-uncut

Got a laugh at him getting into Hampson (2:45) and Petterd (3:51)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on May 02, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
Have seen Lions fans post somewhere before that Bewick & Lewis Taylor are more likely candidates, Ads. With Hanley out you would think that Cutler should get a good look at a full game!

Cheers Toges, but now you'll be held responsible if Cutler starts in green. :P

Just kidding. ;)

Uh-oh :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 02, 2014, 01:32:05 PM
Not Harsh Rusty - Would not surprise to see Polkinghorne sub with McGuane red vested out. Think he would be on last chance this week - had been killing it in NEAFL to warrant selection but has not grasped the opportunity.
I don't understand all the Polkinghorne hate. He's not even close to the worst player Brisbane have and definitely won't be close while they have McGuane and Sam Michael (;)) on the list.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 02, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
Not Harsh Rusty - Would not surprise to see Polkinghorne sub with McGuane red vested out. Think he would be on last chance this week - had been killing it in NEAFL to warrant selection but has not grasped the opportunity.
I don't understand all the Polkinghorne hate. He's not even close to the worst player Brisbane have and definitely won't be close while they have McGuane and Sam Michael (;)) on the list.  :P
Think Ringo was referring to McGuane above. As for Polkinghorne, he probably isn't the worst player we have, but he just hasn't developed into anything decent imo. He doesn't add too much to the team and I still feel he is a bit of a waste of space on the ground.

And that was great watching Brown's uncut vision. Got really stuck into Petterd.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: The_Captain on May 02, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
Are Brisbane gonna get up for the Diggers? Or should i keep my Tip as Saints? THinking Brissy are due for a big one. Just not sure when.. Hows West doing in ruck? Surely have Hicky covered?

Yep i called it. The MAN!  8) ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 05, 2014, 08:44:44 AM
Just wondering what fellow Brisbane supporters opinion of Leppa are after 1/3rd of the season.

Know new coaches enjoy a honeymoon period and I am really impressed with his coaching and new game plan. Has not had luck with injuries and so far imo has not made any real tactical errors and retains faith in his players.

I also really appreciate his honesty as evidenced in his press conferences.

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-05-05/young-guys-not-our-worst

Very honest assessment of Swans game and saying Senior players need to stand up more and give support to the young draftees.

Whilst we may not reach position of last yar think Leppa is heading in the right direction,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on May 05, 2014, 09:13:19 AM
Haven't been able to see too many of our games being in Victoria, so I don't really know what our game day performances have been like.

I have liked his press conferences and the way he has carried himself as coach. We have had some bad performances on the field, but that was always going to happen this year. He has done well to cover injuries and it is good to see a lot of kids getting a run.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 05, 2014, 10:05:47 PM
I'm not impressed, failing to pick the strongest team every week is pissing me off. wasted $61 the other night in tickets to watch Sydney do a training run. Losing patience
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Berger on May 06, 2014, 06:41:59 AM
I like Leppas approach tbh. Blooding lots of good rookies, we had an awesome draft IMO, and 2016/17 will be good years for us I think.

I'm not impressed, failing to pick the strongest team every week is pissing me off. wasted $61 the other night in tickets to watch Sydney do a training run. Losing patience
Not outing the nest team on the park each week? Please explain.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 06, 2014, 08:17:34 AM
I partially agree with Strikes in that some of the selections at times may be questioned. We have an injury crisis which necessitates playing our draftees earlier than usual. This will benefit us in the future as we are getting games into our youth early.

I suppose Strikes is arguing why Maguire was not recalled and that is the only one I really can not understand.  However until the last 2 weeks he was being played as forward in NEAFL to try and extend his career so can partly understand this. Maguire should replace Gardiner this week though. Moloney is probably the other one but Robertson and Aish have stepped up and keeping the pressure on.  Other players in NEAFL who are putting pressure on are Harwood, Crisp, Lisle and O'Brien.  Archie Smith is also developing every game and will be a handy ruckman in the next 2 years.

Our forwards continue to be an issue and in fairness to the selection committee they are picking the best performed in NEAFL.  Although McGuane has looked terrible prior to promotion he had kicked 9 goals in 2 weeks in the NEAFL. Suspect he will be back there this week as he has had 3 games to prove himself.  This is another of Leppas policies I like giving players a reasonable run.

Was pleased to see on Saturday night the change in attitude from Golby when he came on. His attitude in the early games left a fair bit to be desired imo but a stint in the NEAFL appears to have turned that around.

Players who missed last Saturday nights game who would be in Brisbanes best 22 were Berger, Rich, Claye Beams, Hanley, Staker, Brown and possibly McGrath. Some 700 games of experience missing and this has been our problem this year losing the experience.

On the bright side with the draftees performing well when all fit there will be pressure applied for positions so this bears well fo the future.

I was also at the game Strikes and I am a club member and while at times disappointed can see the future developing as well. Again we lost this game in time on in the second quarter where Swans kicked 5.2 in time on. We were very competitive in that quarter and got within 4 points but again concentration waned,

So basically what I am saying we have to enjoy some pain now to benefit the future and so far imo Leppa is doing a reasonable job.

As I have been a Bears/Lions member since 1988 I have seen a lot of ups and downs and at the moment we are going through a rebuilding phase and I am enjoying what I am seeing from Aish, Robertson, Cutler, Mayes and Taylor. Bear in mind we have one of the youngest lists as well and will get even younger with possible retirements this year,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 06, 2014, 03:56:11 PM
If we were to finish with the spoon, or 2nd last, should we consider trading our first pick for more experience? Don't really like the idea myself, but may be worth it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 06, 2014, 04:19:38 PM
I would be surprised if we were to finish that low Rich as our draw is better for second half with a number of winnable games. Melbourne, GWS, Carlton and maybe Suns at the Gabba which may lift us away from the cellar.

If we were to finish that low then yes maybe trade for a forward as we have depth in other areas. Should have traded hard to get Crameri imo but not sure whether he wanted to come to Brisbane especially with go home boys. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 06, 2014, 04:54:03 PM
No one is going to want to come anytime soon unless we fork out alot of money
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Boomz on May 06, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
I would be surprised if we were to finish that low Rich as our draw is better for second half with a number of winnable games. Melbourne, GWS, Carlton and maybe Suns at the Gabba which may lift us away from the cellar.

If we were to finish that low then yes maybe trade for a forward as we have depth in other areas. Should have traded hard to get Crameri imo but not sure whether he wanted to come to Brisbane especially with go home boys.

Problem is not many forwards on the market... Best bet would be someone like Lycett from WC but would cost a fair bit for a guy who is a ruck/fwd and not proven yet (despite showing a lot). I'd say the lions would use the pick as not many available/wanting to go there.  Crameri was always off to the dogs only thanks to having a relationship with Mccartney from his time at the dons.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 07:56:54 PM
You can take the big Q off the pies
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Berger on May 06, 2014, 07:58:21 PM
You can take the big Q off the pies
Haha no thanks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 06, 2014, 08:01:15 PM
Fair enough!

How about Mitch Thorp?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 07, 2014, 02:49:50 AM
In all seriousness, at the start of the season I thought it'd be a wise decision to let one of Sinclair or Lycett leave in a trade. I have no doubt that these boys will both be jets in a few years time but I struggled to see how we could use them all. I just don't see us trading right now though. We are set for the next 10 years with NicNat, Lycett and Sinkers while Coxy slots in beautifully to a coaching/development role.

Of course, if you were to part with Dan Rich...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 08, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
Hanley chance to be the sub?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 09, 2014, 04:09:06 PM
god I hope not. No point of him playing if that was the case
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 09, 2014, 04:13:16 PM
They wouldn't be playing him if he wasn't 100% fit. And if he's 100% fit he wouldn't be sub.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on May 09, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
If anything Hanley might get the red vest but not the green. You dont want someone coming back from back/hamstring injury and coming on part of the way through the game. You want them out there from the start after the warm up
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Berger on May 10, 2014, 06:26:21 PM
Thought we played well today. Very unlucky. If it wasnt for the umpire, we should have won.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on May 10, 2014, 06:31:18 PM
Certainly didn't lose any fans tonight.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 10, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Thought we played well today. Very unlucky. If it wasnt for the umpire, we should have won.

umpiring was bad both ways all night
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on May 10, 2014, 06:32:49 PM
Really impressed by the younger guys today, didn't give up and kept on going, kept us in the game. Rocky outstanding once again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 10, 2014, 06:35:13 PM
Really impressed by the younger guys today, didn't give up and kept on going, kept us in the game. Rocky outstanding once again.
Yeah, young guys were good. Looking forward to a couple of years when the boys can run out games better than they did today. Premiership 2016/17!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 10, 2014, 06:35:37 PM
Although I didn't watch the game, losing to a finals contender (albeit one that's struggling atm) by <10 points isn't something that's bad.

Yeah it sucks to lose, but gotta get close before you beat em
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 10, 2014, 06:57:03 PM
Home from the game and a couple of basic skill errors cost us dearly.  But the guys will learn
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on May 10, 2014, 07:33:40 PM
Rockliff is a flowering beast.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 10, 2014, 10:06:28 PM
Thought we played well today. Very unlucky. If it wasnt for the umpire, we should have won.

Not really, we still had to take a mark in the 50 from the free if it was called back and going by what happened during the night that would of been difficult.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on May 10, 2014, 11:01:09 PM
Sounds like both the Lions and Dees played well tonight and impressed all their fans even though they lost, they are still playing good footy
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 11, 2014, 02:59:22 PM
Mayes needs to go back up front and through the middle.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 11, 2014, 03:32:10 PM
Agree with this one Strikes - Although Mayes got plenty of it yesterday he was all over the field.  He plays his best footy when running through the middle and off half forwrad where he can take the strong mark.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Berger on May 11, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
Yup, Mayes is not a defender. Hopefully he won't be used down there much more.

Thought we played well today. Very unlucky. If it wasnt for the umpire, we should have won.

umpiring was bad both ways all night
Yeah, true. The umpiring wasn't great.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 17, 2014, 07:29:51 PM
that was sad.

Zorko and Merrett definitely sick as well. Rocky and Patfull must of been bad to get the day off over them
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 17, 2014, 08:06:44 PM
We only had the 2 travelling emergencies hence the two worst were replaced.

On the bright side more experience into the youngsters - We had 11 of our 22 with 20 or less games experience so was always going to be a struggle.

So for this game these players were on the sideline Rockliff, Patful, Rich. Berger, Staker and maybe McGrath and Maguire who would be in our best 22,  (A total of 871 games experience on the sideline)

Will be a good game after the bye v Carlton at the Gabba and would like our chances if we play like we did last week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 17, 2014, 08:19:46 PM
We only had the 2 travelling emergencies hence the two worst were replaced.

Why?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 17, 2014, 08:54:55 PM
Crisp probably played for the reserves
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 17, 2014, 09:02:06 PM
We only had the 2 travelling emergencies hence the two worst were replaced.

Why?

I thought most clubs let one of the emergencies play in the reserve grade and keep 1-2 left for last minute emergencies
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 17, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
We only had the 2 travelling emergencies hence the two worst were replaced.

Why?
NEAFL side are playing in Darwin tonight so a combination of factors.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 18, 2014, 05:41:29 AM

Pies took 4 players to Adelaide, I find it crazy the Lions didn't have at least 3.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 18, 2014, 06:57:59 AM
Remember Brisbane is the AFL financial basket club and not as financial as Pies ;) ;)

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on May 18, 2014, 07:42:13 AM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,95443.0.html
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 18, 2014, 11:06:46 AM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 18, 2014, 11:09:47 AM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 18, 2014, 11:15:21 AM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic
Yeh agree but I guess something like this virus that swept through Brisbane is a freak occurance. There's usually only one late change in games, if any. And it would be important to get game time into that 3rd emergency for the following week just in case
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 18, 2014, 11:57:49 AM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic
Yeh agree but I guess something like this virus that swept through Brisbane is a freak occurance. There's usually only one late change in games, if any. And it would be important to get game time into that 3rd emergency for the following week just in case

not that freaky, happened to Essendon against freo a few weeks back and they had same problem
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 18, 2014, 12:28:06 PM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic
Yeh agree but I guess something like this virus that swept through Brisbane is a freak occurance. There's usually only one late change in games, if any. And it would be important to get game time into that 3rd emergency for the following week just in case

not that freaky, happened to Essendon against freo a few weeks back and they had same problem
Ah yes very true.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on May 18, 2014, 12:29:59 PM
Still very rare though. I think Swans also only take 2 emergencies traveling and let 1 play in the NEAFL
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 18, 2014, 01:05:10 PM
Just to reiterate reserves were also playing in Darwin so that probably also aided the decision to only take the 2 travelling emergencies and makes sense.

In 2 minds over whether Zorko should have been the original sub though.  One part says let him play and sub later with the counter what if he is sub and does not bring the zest when subbed on. Think right decision was made though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 18, 2014, 01:29:58 PM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic

Not all clubs have Eddie pouring money into the old back pocket ;)



Wish Zorko was a late out, gonna drop sooooooo much in value and he's in all my sides :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 18, 2014, 01:35:28 PM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic

Not all clubs have Eddie pouring money into the old back pocket ;)



Wish Zorko was a late out, gonna drop sooooooo much in value and he's in all my sides :(

honestly its 2 airfares and a few nights accommodation.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 18, 2014, 01:38:03 PM
haha Ele was just having a little dig.

Its more the fact they can still play a game that weekend Oss and they would rarely need 2 emergencies, let alone 3.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 18, 2014, 02:02:13 PM
Brown was never going to play... had to in the end
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 18, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
Brown was never going to play... had to in the end
Heard that second hand Strikes but was unable to confirm. Merret also had a touch as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 18, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic

Not all clubs have Eddie pouring money into the old back pocket ;)



Wish Zorko was a late out, gonna drop sooooooo much in value and he's in all my sides :(

honestly its 2 airfares and a few nights accommodation.

You offering to foot the bill mate? ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 18, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic

Not all clubs have Eddie pouring money into the old back pocket ;)



Wish Zorko was a late out, gonna drop sooooooo much in value and he's in all my sides :(

honestly its 2 airfares and a few nights accommodation.

You offering to foot the bill mate? ;)

Collingwood already are :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 18, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Yeh not that uncommon Oss. WA teams only send over 2 travelling emergencies usually so the 3rd can still play in the WAFL that wkend

it's a risky tactic

Not all clubs have Eddie pouring money into the old back pocket ;)



Wish Zorko was a late out, gonna drop sooooooo much in value and he's in all my sides :(

honestly its 2 airfares and a few nights accommodation.

You offering to foot the bill mate? ;)

Collingwood already are :P

For the non-Eddie funded clubs mate ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Rusty00 on May 19, 2014, 07:49:45 PM

Pies took 4 players to Adelaide, I find it crazy the Lions didn't have at least 3.
Pies were playing Thursday night though so there was enough time to fly the emergencies back to play in the VFL. If the interstate clubs flew 3 emergencies every week it would mean players would be regularly missing out on a match altogether.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on May 20, 2014, 05:24:15 AM

Pies took 4 players to Adelaide, I find it crazy the Lions didn't have at least 3.
Pies were playing Thursday night though so there was enough time to fly the emergencies back to play in the VFL. If the interstate clubs flew 3 emergencies every week it would mean players would be regularly missing out on a match altogether.

What's the point in naming 3 though?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 20, 2014, 06:18:21 AM
Think Oss according to AFL rules we have to name 3 emergencies. The gastro/flu was an unexpected occurrence and that caused problems. Our plans as I understand it Brown was not going to play and Close was the cover with Golby to cover any other outs which in the normal cause of events is usually sufficient and has been for us for a few seasons.
We do have exceptions when reserves are not playing though and take more.  One of the disadvantages of a decentralised competition and having your reserves playing in the NEAFL.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 21, 2014, 06:36:10 PM
No gastro for rockliff... tonsillitis
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on May 22, 2014, 04:24:11 AM
No gastro for rockliff... tonsillitis


i hope right for round 11 :-X
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on May 22, 2014, 07:14:39 AM
Strikes have you got a link confirmiomg tonsolitis for Rocky.  Bupa report still said Gastro as did my tweets so just wondering if something else came out.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 22, 2014, 03:49:11 PM
Strikes have you got a link confirmiomg tonsolitis for Rocky.  Bupa report still said Gastro as did my tweets so just wondering if something else came out.

Tom Rockliff ‏@rockwiz38 May 20

@WarnieDT I had tonsillitis so just a couple not gastro
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on May 22, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
No gastro for rockliff... tonsillitis


i hope right for round 11 :-X

will be all good, pics of him at training the other day
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on May 29, 2014, 01:06:48 PM
Zac O'Brien has been elevated to the senior list.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on May 29, 2014, 01:07:48 PM
Zac O'Brien has been elevated to the senior list.
Damn, I was hoping they'd go with Jordon Bourke.  :(

O'Brien's good though, he was a great pick up for Brissie.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on May 29, 2014, 03:08:07 PM
ZOB! ABOUT FLOWERING TIME.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on May 29, 2014, 05:43:10 PM
Named!



GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 01, 2014, 05:14:36 PM
We had a win and it was great.

Should there be changes next week. I would recall Cutler for either Golby or Harwood neither set the world on fire and Cutler was one of best in NEAFL.
O'Brien will not be dropped.
Bewick is another option based on NEAFL form but not sure who he would replace.
Ruck will be the issue and suspect it will be Stefan as Archie is still very raw but then may be worth using his rawness to see how he goes.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 01, 2014, 05:21:14 PM
Don't think Harwood should be dropped after one game. Had killed it in the NEAFL all season so deserves more than 1 game to show he is up for it. But you all know my feelings towards Harwood ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 01, 2014, 06:00:05 PM
I would drop Golby before Harwood myself HB and have said so but for some reason he seems to escape the axe. Gardiner is a KPP so he is OK but imo Harwood much better than Golby and Cutler is working well as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 01, 2014, 07:06:11 PM
I think maybe only 1 change and forced Martin in for West. Golby may lose his spot to Cutler but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on June 01, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
Thoughts on Beams??
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 01, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
Beams is slowly regaining form after his injury start to the season - Would have liked to see him gain more match fitness in the NEAFL to be honest as he is drifting in and out at the moment.  Yesterday was solid in first quarter and then virtually unsighted till late in 3rd and 4th quarters. Will be given every opportunity to retain place in the team as he is well thought of the club and has better junior stats than his brother.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on June 01, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
Not too sure whether to get him in to my team. Was considering him until a slower day yesterday
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 01, 2014, 08:35:13 PM
Rumor on big footy that Harwood wants out..

seems bizarre but possible. Homesickness wont be the problem.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 01, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Think Harwood is contracted for next year so trade would have to be negotiated.
 
Hope we do not give away early picks as there are 2 tall forwards that I would not mind in the draft. Hope we draft one as Brownies replacement.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 02, 2014, 11:49:30 AM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-06-02/lions-ruck-replacements

Interesting write up on the choice of Rucks Martin, Smith or Michael. Martin would appear to have inside running on experience but if you listen to Leppas press conference he is excited by Smith so may surprise,  as the article says big task for ever is named to come up against big Will Minson this weekend.

If Smith gets the nod sets us an exciting posible confrontation of the two exciting talents Smith v Daw in 2 weeks time. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 02, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
Would absolutely adore a Cutler re-call. Also looking at bringing in ZOB a week early so I hope he holds his spot!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 02, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
Not expecting ZOB to be sub this week either.

Beams looks slow at the end so maybe he might get the green vest.

Golby and Harwood as well if they keep their spot
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 02, 2014, 10:46:28 PM
Any chance Tommy Cutler will be recalled? Wouldn't mind a cutler more games - price rises - from him :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 02, 2014, 11:02:42 PM
Haha I really hate having Gardiner as my back EMG in DT, COME BACK CUTTS!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 03, 2014, 06:49:42 AM
Minson, Mumford and Sandilands the next 3 weeks.

Hit outs galore coming up
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 03, 2014, 07:18:55 AM
@Toga and Elephants

Cutler handled his demotion well and was the second best player behind Bewick in the NEAFL on saturday.

I have expressed my views on Golby and i would like nothing more from a Brisbane point of view for Cutler to replace Golby.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 03, 2014, 09:07:46 AM
Minson, Mumford and Sandilands the next 3 weeks.

Hit outs galore coming up
Wow didn't realise this. Gonna have to look into some SC betting.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on June 03, 2014, 09:19:10 AM
Awesome would be very handy to have him back, cheers Ringo :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 03, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
Minson, Mumford and Sandilands the next 3 weeks.

Hit outs galore coming up
Wow didn't realise this. Gonna have to look into some SC betting.
Oh boy, this could get interesting.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 03, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
Thanks Ringo.

Golby has dropped off an absolute ton, really surprised too. I thought you had a future back premo on your hands there.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 03, 2014, 12:23:32 PM
Boys where is McStay at in terms of development? Any chance of games this year?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 03, 2014, 12:36:49 PM
Boys where is McStay at in terms of development? Any chance of games this year?
He needs to work on his attack on the ball as he is very inconsistent in this regard. Is being used at both ends of the ground as part of his development. A little behind Cutler and Gardiner in terms of development so can not see him getting too many games this year unless injuries and tiredness intervene.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 03, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
Boys where is McStay at in terms of development? Any chance of games this year?
He needs to work on his attack on the ball as he is very inconsistent in this regard. Is being used at both ends of the ground as part of his development. A little behind Cutler and Gardiner in terms of development so can not see him getting too many games this year unless injuries and tiredness intervene.
ok, thanks mate
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 04, 2014, 06:52:20 AM
My uncle has taken a step into footy journalism,

http://www.footyalmanac.com.au/the-lions-and-the-case-for-a-priority-pick/ (http://www.footyalmanac.com.au/the-lions-and-the-case-for-a-priority-pick/)

Quite an interesting read, arguing why the Lions should get a priority pick. What do other Brisbane supporters think of this? I like the idea.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 04, 2014, 08:13:16 AM
Not really a fan of priority picks as there is still the possibility of them going home.

I really would like to see this idea introduced but do not see it getrting passed.

If after 2 years a drafted player wanting out of a club - The club receiving must give up its corresponding draft pick to that of the draft pick used.
eg Port, Carlton and Saint Kilda would have to have give their first round draft picks to secure these players.  Highly unlikely they would have done that and we would still have these players.
Similarly West Coast and Collingwood would have had to give their second round picks for Karnezis and Yeo.

It is far too easy imo for players to use the go home factor after being developed for far less then what we can obtain.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 04, 2014, 09:51:19 AM
If they weren't going to give Melbourne a Priority pick in 2013 they certainly won't give it to Brisbane now.

I mean with a stack of injuries, you've still beaten St.Kilda and Carlton and sent Essendon to the edge with 2 very winnable games of football to come.

You can't really argue that players leaving for less than they're worth is why you should get a priority pick. As Ringo said that indicates a problem with the system the AFL uses instead
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 04, 2014, 10:23:39 PM
Not really a fan of priority picks as there is still the possibility of them going home.

I really would like to see this idea introduced but do not see it getrting passed.

If after 2 years a drafted player wanting out of a club - The club receiving must give up its corresponding draft pick to that of the draft pick used.
eg Port, Carlton and Saint Kilda would have to have give their first round draft picks to secure these players.  Highly unlikely they would have done that and we would still have these players.
Similarly West Coast and Collingwood would have had to give their second round picks for Karnezis and Yeo.

It is far too easy imo for players to use the go home factor after being developed for far less then what we can obtain.

From memory Yeo was pick 30 and we have ya pick 27 ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on June 04, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
Not really a fan of priority picks as there is still the possibility of them going home.

I really would like to see this idea introduced but do not see it getrting passed.

If after 2 years a drafted player wanting out of a club - The club receiving must give up its corresponding draft pick to that of the draft pick used.
eg Port, Carlton and Saint Kilda would have to have give their first round draft picks to secure these players.  Highly unlikely they would have done that and we would still have these players.
Similarly West Coast and Collingwood would have had to give their second round picks for Karnezis and Yeo.

It is far too easy imo for players to use the go home factor after being developed for far less then what we can obtain.

From memory Yeo was pick 30 and we have ya pick 27 ;)
Also Polec was at the club for 3 years, so would escape your rule too ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 05, 2014, 07:21:52 AM
Thanks guys for comments and yes there are a few possible variations but thinking out loud as a possible resolution as I am dead against priority picks.

Maybe some contract renewal periods could be factored in,  This just goes to say how difficult this resolution is going to be.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 06, 2014, 12:45:01 AM
O'Brien should get a full game?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 06, 2014, 06:57:11 AM
Yeah, probably. I think Bewick will be sub.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 06, 2014, 07:25:09 AM
Bewick would be my favourite for the sub this week as well.  martin has only 2 games back in the NEAFL and  with going up against Minson he may be subbed out with Rog rucking for rest of game.  If this is the case Bewick is the logical sub.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 06, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
Even Taylor is a possibility
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 06, 2014, 10:52:11 AM
Would depend on structure required as one is the replacement for Paine and Bewick at 11cm taller than Taylor he may get the job with Taylor sub.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 07, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
Wow. Great win tonight, we showed a lot of guts and we're really hard in at the football. That second quarter was by far the best we have played all year!

I'll post a few thoughts on the game tomorrow.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 08, 2014, 01:19:23 AM
Bewick and Martin were fantastic
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 08, 2014, 07:37:09 AM
Sorry Rohan for even suggesting you should have been sub brought your a game tonight and well done.

Stefan you matched big Will all night and won some contested ball - Keep it going because you have Mumford and Sandi in the next 2 weeks.

Would be great if we could play 4 quarters like our second quarter.  Was great to watch.

Game was a great open game but both teams lacked composure in the inside the forward 50 and need to be improved if we are to match top teams.  The tackling by both sides was fierce as evidenced by the tackle count of 167 for the match.

Need to keep this intensity up next Saturday Night against the improving GWS - A win against GWS can not be taken for granted in their present form.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 08, 2014, 08:15:05 AM
The Saints will ve going for the Lions for sure
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 08, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Bewick and Martin were fantastic last night. Bewick was everywhere and BOG and Martin was a handful for Minson in the ruck.

The second quarter was amazing. Our pace was electric and we used the ball well up forward.

The Mosquito Fleet showed how good they can be last night. The pressure that those three put on was huge.

I hope Golby gets dropped. He looks like he has no confidence in his game. His first instinct every time he got the ball was to go backwards or find someone 10m away. He needs to go back to the NEAFL for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 08, 2014, 01:44:57 PM
100% agree on Golby BB thought he would continue upwards after last year but not sure what is wrong with him as he appears to alo have an attitude problem at the moment.

Was surprised he kept spot over both Harwood and Cutler as I would play both before Golby.

Influence of Brownie on game should not be underestimated either given the goals that were scored as a result of the contested marking tussles.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Frankfaust1 on June 08, 2014, 01:47:19 PM
Hi Folks. Was wondering whether Taylor was badly injured yesterday. Any word?  :-\
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 08, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Hi Folks. Was wondering whether Taylor was badly injured yesterday. Any word?  :-\
Yeah apparently injured his calf, but pretty sure he was playing at the end of the game? Not 100% sure on that, but I'd say he's fine. Wouldn't be surprised if he was given a week off though considering he came into the side round 1 with an injury interrupted pre-season and has played every game
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Frankfaust1 on June 08, 2014, 01:53:38 PM
Hi Folks. Was wondering whether Taylor was badly injured yesterday. Any word?  :-\
Yeah apparently injured his calf, but pretty sure he was playing at the end of the game? Not 100% sure on that, but I'd say he's fine. Wouldn't be surprised if he was given a week off though considering he came into the side round 1 with an injury interrupted pre-season and has played every game

He's been a great servant this year. I pulled the pin yesterday, but was watching how he went to second guess whether I made a good or a bad call LOL. ::) Makes no difference at all anymore, of course, but I've been trying to hang on to this year's good'un's as long as possible.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on June 08, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Hi Folks. Was wondering whether Taylor was badly injured yesterday. Any word?  :-\
Yeah apparently injured his calf, but pretty sure he was playing at the end of the game? Not 100% sure on that, but I'd say he's fine. Wouldn't be surprised if he was given a week off though considering he came into the side round 1 with an injury interrupted pre-season and has played every game

He's been a great servant this year. I pulled the pin yesterday, but was watching how he went to second guess whether I made a good or a bad call LOL. ::) Makes no difference at all anymore, of course, but I've been trying to hang on to this year's good'un's as long as possible.

If he hurt his calf he'll probably be facing 1-2 on the sidelines... I hurt mine playing sport recently, and you can play out the game, but even for a minor injury it hurts like shower for the next week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on June 08, 2014, 02:55:55 PM
Hi Folks. Was wondering whether Taylor was badly injured yesterday. Any word?  :-\
Yeah apparently injured his calf, but pretty sure he was playing at the end of the game? Not 100% sure on that, but I'd say he's fine. Wouldn't be surprised if he was given a week off though considering he came into the side round 1 with an injury interrupted pre-season and has played every game

He's been a great servant this year. I pulled the pin yesterday, but was watching how he went to second guess whether I made a good or a bad call LOL. ::) Makes no difference at all anymore, of course, but I've been trying to hang on to this year's good'un's as long as possible.

If he hurt his calf he'll probably be facing 1-2 on the sidelines... I hurt mine playing sport recently, and you can play out the game, but even for a minor injury it hurts like shower for the next week.
Looked like an ankle injury to me actually. He limped off pretty bad, but he got it strapped and looked fine 5 minutes later. He was still running strong at the end of the game, so I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 08, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Browny likely to travel to perth in 2 weeks or stay in brissie ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 08, 2014, 10:40:36 PM
Cannot believe the Golby drop off, I almost jumped on him as a breakout contender down back!

Jumping all over the big Stef this week!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 09, 2014, 08:19:30 AM
You are not alone in that one Elle especially with a R/F Dpp. Handy to sit at F7 and with Burger still 6/8 weeks away will take us to finals.

@ Strikes would not surprise as we really have nothing to gain by playing him against Freo.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 09, 2014, 08:39:29 AM
Gonna be looking at Stefan very closely as well. How far away is any ruck competition for his spot?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 09, 2014, 08:44:39 AM
Berger is 6/8 weeks away, West gone for the season and both Michael and Archie Smith still on the rookie list.  If Martin produces a few more of these games he can sit on my forward bench at F7 and interchange with Thuirlow if required for me. Will more than likely make some cash as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 09, 2014, 08:47:57 AM
Yeh I'm thinking about going HMac down to him. Watching my trades very closely though so need him to have a good run at it
And has some stiff oppo coming up so might just wait to see how he goes this week
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 09, 2014, 08:51:07 AM
If he does well against Mummy this week have to consider before price rise although will be up against Sandi the week after,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 11, 2014, 08:08:50 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/video/2014-06-11/cribs-with-the-mozzies

Squizzy sure does love his BBQ sauce hahaha
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 11, 2014, 08:54:54 PM
Hahaha poor Bewick. Going through these jumpers 'never been worn'...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on June 12, 2014, 05:40:19 PM
Ah c`mon how the hell did Cutler not get in the team this week
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 12, 2014, 05:47:35 PM
Ah c`mon how the hell did Cutler not get in the team this week
I have no flowering clue.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 12, 2014, 06:11:56 PM
Triple brickbats to Leppa on this - Golby must have something strong going on to retain his place. Appears totally disinterested at times.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on June 14, 2014, 09:23:01 PM
Golby being a complete potato again this week.
Wake the flower up Leppa and put Cutler in next week
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 14, 2014, 09:27:02 PM
You guys are going to be in real trouble next year with no Browny
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 14, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
You guys are going to be in real trouble next year with no Browny
They'll be fine, they have Luke McGuane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on June 14, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
You guys are going to be in real trouble next year with no Browny
They'll be fine, they have Luke McGuane.

Where was he tonight?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 14, 2014, 09:41:28 PM
You guys are going to be in real trouble next year with no Browny
They'll be fine, they have Luke McGuane.

Where was he tonight?
Being a potato.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 14, 2014, 09:44:30 PM
You guys are going to be in real trouble next year with no Browny
They'll be fine, they have Luke McGuane.

Where was he tonight?
Nursing an injury I think.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 14, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
Who tagged Rocky & Zorko?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on June 14, 2014, 09:46:13 PM
Who tagged Rocky & Zorko?
Rocky was going head-to-head with Shiel who beat him easily tonight.

Tom Bugg had Zorko.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 14, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
Hopefully the boys find a new club next year when this pathetic excuse folds. 12,000....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on June 14, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 15, 2014, 07:01:01 AM
Only real positive from the game was the form of squizzy Taylor.

One of the few games I have been tempted to leave early but stayed. (Only ever felt like this only about a dozen times over 25 years).

Game summary for lions:

1. Poor Discipline (2 direct goals from stupid free kicks given away.  Golby I hope yours sends you back to reserves)
2, Poor decision making.  On three occasions Green was on his own down the field  and all that was required was a long kick and his pace would have done the rest but no we tried to finess and switch play causing turnovers and goals.
3. Poor accountability - Giants scored 5 goals from stoppages in the forward 50 including 2 from 20 metres which should not be on.
4. Poor tackling pressure. Giants really showed the way here and tackled us out of the game.  How someone can go through three defenders without a hand laid on him is beyond me.  Happened on 2 occasions.
5. Switching off in Red Zone.  After improvement in this area over the last 2 weeks we again went back to bad habits. Really evident in the 2nd quarter where we had a strong lead but 3 goals to GWS in red zone puleed them back to the one point lead at half time.

We were saying after the first 5 minutes that Brisbane was not on their game and how true this was.

@ Kilbluff we will be targeting in trade period.  I am sure Patton or Cameron would enjoy the Qld sunshine.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 15, 2014, 08:18:48 PM
still annoyed by the effort, worst match of the year even in front of the north and power matches.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 16, 2014, 10:23:47 AM
As you can see by my comments before summary strikes I am with you.  Not often tempted to leave before the siren but was on Saturday night.

Strikes where do you sit at the Gabba as I am interested to see if you agree with my comments in 2, I probably see more as my seat is in the upper section of the Southern Grandstand.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 16, 2014, 05:27:51 PM
As you can see by my comments before summary strikes I am with you.  Not often tempted to leave before the siren but was on Saturday night.

Strikes where do you sit at the Gabba as I am interested to see if you agree with my comments in 2, I probably see more as my seat is in the upper section of the Southern Grandstand.

Not a seated member but usually sit on the elbow near the away bay. I agree with your comment, most noticeable was a kick from paparone that was over the side that I thought was stupid when he had an easier option deeper.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 17, 2014, 02:05:19 PM
Jonathan Brown should not be allowed to play anymore games this season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 17, 2014, 02:13:58 PM
Mailman I reckon Brown has earned the right to go out on his own terms.  If he wants to play another couple of games and go out as befitting a man of his standing I am ok with that. Club is rightfully leaving decision to him. has been cleared of any damage from bump and will complete compulsory concussion test this week.

Third child due this week as well which may effect decision as well. Another son would be great.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 17, 2014, 02:20:58 PM
Eventually Leppitsch has to put Brown's welfare above whether he wants to play.

If he physically could I'm sure he's play till he's 100, but its sickening seeing him get K.O'ed 2-3 times a year for the past 3-4 years of his career.

He's a befitting champion, but a champion who's possible reality is that he won't be able to function past 60 years old due to brain damage.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 17, 2014, 02:30:24 PM
Personally I think mailman he will play one or 2 more games at the Gabba with the final one being announced as his final game.  Game against the Suns on July 26th imo would be a fitting game to play as final game after announcing retirement.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 17, 2014, 02:53:43 PM
Mailman I reckon Brown has earned the right to go out on his own terms.

People always say that about the legends, but it should never be the case.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 17, 2014, 05:24:33 PM
Mailman I reckon Brown has earned the right to go out on his own terms.  If he wants to play another couple of games and go out as befitting a man of his standing I am ok with that. Club is rightfully leaving decision to him. has been cleared of any damage from bump and will complete compulsory concussion test this week.

Third child due this week as well which may effect decision as well. Another son would be great.

Little girl confirmed by Browny on the footy show.

Jack will just have to do in 19 years time
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on June 22, 2014, 01:57:15 PM
How low can the Lions go? #no1draftpick

Yeah, what can we do? I think if we get the premiership teams back together we'll play better than we did last night tbh :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on June 22, 2014, 01:59:53 PM
Saints pretty much have spoon locked imo, although when you look retrospectively picks 1-10 are all even
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on June 22, 2014, 02:13:06 PM

Don't worry about what pick you get, isn't a guarantee anyway.

In fact you'd almost want pick #2, doesn't get nearly as much pressure for the player or the club
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 22, 2014, 02:22:32 PM
Put it into perspective we were playing now a Top 4 team with a young team and whilst I would expect a loss i was disappointed with the extent of the loss.

However when analysing the playing staff last night we had
5 players who have played less than 10 games (Robertson. O'Brien, Cutler, Gardiner and Close)
a further 3 players with less than 25 games played (Taylor, Beams and Paporone) and
a further 4 players with less than 50 games experience (Clarke, Mayes, Harwood, Green)
so 12 of our 22 had less than 50 games experience.
So we were always going to be on a hiding to nothing and umpiring did not help us either.

Experience gained now will be invaluable and as Leppa said in his press conference he asked the players what they learnt from Freo who are undoubtedly the best defensive team in the league.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Darbium on June 23, 2014, 09:35:17 AM
We are in desperate need of some bigger bodies.  Any chance of Moloney coming back into the team?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2014, 10:06:24 AM
@Darbium - Has not been in top form in the 2's so can not see in the immediate future. Robertson and O'Brien are keeping him out atm and they are not among the worst performers in seniors. Raines is also languishing in 2's as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2014, 10:09:30 AM
Couple of interesting articles here concerning AFL treatment of NSW and Qld. Eddie Maguire now wants unrestricted access to our acadamies for crying out loud.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/leigh-matthews-says-afl-does-not-fathom-it-has-four-expansion-clubs-in-queensland-and-nsw-20140622-zshy8.html

http://thelionsroar.net/

have also made comments in this thread but expecting some backlash.,

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,97082.0.html

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on June 23, 2014, 11:01:32 AM
Suggestions Brown will retire. Press conference is a bit later today

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-23/brown-to-quit
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 23, 2014, 04:31:59 PM
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 16m
Brisbane Lions have placed Daniel Rich on the long-term injury list with Zac O'Brien now upgraded in his place from the rookie list.
Patrick Keane ‏@AFL_PKeane 18m
Brisbane Lions have re-instated Patrick Wearden to the senior list from the long-term injury list.

Interesting decisions here Wearden was tearing it up in the reserves prior to injury and is another forward mid so could get a game before season end as rookies tire.
O'Brien as a mature aged rookie should be safe for rest of year and appears to have passed both Moloney and Raines.

Can still promote Michael or Archie Smith if required.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 29, 2014, 12:17:01 AM
Browny walking out to the boys after the win  ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on June 29, 2014, 01:00:59 PM
Great game last night but the win papered over some cracks as well. We only scored 2.8 in 3/4 of football. Whatever Leppa said to the boys at 1/4 time needs to be bottled because they were virtually unstoppable in the 2nd quarter after a pathetic 1st quarter,

The food and drink outlets must have been very quiet at half time because I do not think too many of the crowd left their seats for the Brownie retirement lap of honour and presentation.  Was great to see his 2 children join the lap of honour even youngest son tried to walk a fair bit of the way. Crowd of just under 16k was a little disappointing but weather may have effected this.

On the game itself think we did our best to lose the game in the final quarter kicking 5 behinds three of which should have been easily converted. (The usually reliable McGrath missed one). North were aided by some dubious umpiring in the second half.  Regardless of whether you are a Brisbane supporter or not think most would agree Zorko should have had at least 3 free kicks paid to him in the second half.

Close looked as though he belonged last night and may take that CHF role going forward. Took a few contested possessions and kicked a goal. Merret showed he will be a great stay at home forward but needs to work on kicking efficiency. The  mosquito squadron seem to be starting to click and are crumbing around Close and Merrett.

Bewick continues to impress and although was a loose run with role really curbed Boomer Harveys run.
Patful continues to be underestimated by teams.   He was left on a number of occasions as loos man in defence enabling to take marks and get us out of trouble.  Was surprised Clarke lined up on Petrie and this will be a nice learning curve for the youngster as he needs to be aware of following the ball when it goes over the back.

Beams finally showing some form and what a player he will be if he can stay healthy.  Aish came back from his "rest" and put together another strong game and he will be a star of the future.

Martin again showed he can cover the ground and some of his tap work was outstanding.  Looking forward to the Berger/Martin combination in a couple of weeks. Martin may have made it hard for West with his efforts over recent weeks.

The team were lead by the guiding hands of Reddan, Rocky, Adcock and Hanley undoubtedly having his best game of the season.

Need to keep building on this effort and success may be not be as far off as we think.

All in all great to be a part of the night and Brownies farewell and I just finally saw a replay of him joing in the final team song with gusto.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 30, 2014, 10:26:13 PM
Some rumors out rocky called harvey a fag.

sheesh. this world
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on June 30, 2014, 10:39:54 PM
A word that goes thrown around waaay too much.

Bloody lift Rocky if this allegation is true.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on June 30, 2014, 10:58:08 PM
I think I used it a few times last week.

North have brought this out because scott was in trouble for apporaching
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on June 30, 2014, 11:25:21 PM
Obviously Rocky crossed a line, but I think this has been blown way out of proportion. In my experiences, I think society has changed the meaning of the word "faggot" so that in now no longer means "gay", but is just used as an insult like "asshole", "dickhead" etc. Kinda like how the word "gay" has basically been changed from "happy" to "homosexual"
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on July 01, 2014, 12:17:09 AM
Obviously Rocky crossed a line, but I think this has been blown way out of proportion. In my experiences, I think society has changed the meaning of the word "faggot" so that in now no longer means "gay", but is just used as an insult like "asshole", "dickhead" etc. Kinda like how the word "gay" has basically been changed from "happy" to "homosexual"

that's a poor argument. There's completely different implications for appropriating an adjective into a noun (therefore saying the noun is exemplified by the adjective) and appropriating a noun into an adjective (therefore saying the adjective is exemplified by the noun).

The use of fag or faggot derogratively to mean like 'asshole', 'dickhead' or also to mean like 'you suck' (as it's also commonly used to indicate someone is inferior) basically equates a person's sexual orientation to be the same thing as an 'asshole', 'dickhead' or being inferior. Homophobic language should really be cracked down on the same level as racist, and attitudes against a harder stance is probably a contributing factor as to why there are no openly gay past or present AFL players.

That being said, who flowering knows what rockliff said, it's all just conjecture unless rockliff or boomer come forward and say what it was... the fact that neither of them are though probably means it was something a bit more socially inappropriate than just calling boomer shower or something.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on July 01, 2014, 03:00:26 AM
Rocky screwed up lets face it, you just can't go there anymore regardless of intent. He knows it, he said sorry afterwards and then rang Boomer yesterday to make sure the apology had got to Boomer on the night which i think is good of him, far better to call Boomer and give it first hand than come from someone else. It doesn't make it any less wrong but the young blokes owning it
which is good to see.
I also don't think an apposing coach should ever approach an opposition player after a game if there has been a dispute/argument
or something unsavory happening before during or after a game there's way to much testosterone in the veins still and could very easily get ugly, Scott believes he has the right but he's clearly wrong it shouldn't happen and he should know better, fine to go up and congratulate a player on a milestone or retirement etc but not after a dispute of some kind. He can support his player by making a phone call or waiting till the heat has gone out of the situation but not straight after the event and to do it while his old team mate was giving a speech was poor form regardless of how he dresses it up or down.
Shame all this has taken a bit of gloss off a moment that should of been all about Browny.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 01, 2014, 08:36:58 AM
Just remember it is all hearsay at the moment because neither Boomer or Rocky have disclosed what was said. Obviously something that Rocky said got under Boomers skin.  They both shook hands at thge end of the much and that should have been the end of it as "what goes on on the field stays on the field." but Scott by his actions inflamed the situation.
We all know Boomer has a fair bit to say on the field and Saturday night was a continuation of something that went on between Boomer and Rocky when they last played so the history is there but in that case it stayed on the field.
Rocky is still only 23 and will learn from the experience in dealing with these vibes on field.
In no way condoning what Rockliff said if it was socially inappropriate then he should wear any fall out but only he and Boomer know what was said.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 01, 2014, 09:08:59 AM
My god we are far too precious these days. Hope something as little as this doesn't blow up
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 01, 2014, 09:12:52 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-30/rockliff-incident-not-closed

Looks like it is being blown up Rico as the AFL are to talk to Lions and Roos today.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 01, 2014, 09:21:55 AM
Haha the AFL put up an entire article about Dustin Martin's speeding fine when he was going 105 in a 100 zone.

Anything can be made into a story these days ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 01, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
Is this for real? That game should have been all out about Browny.


What happened on the field stays between Rocky and Boomer IMO. Scott didn't need to get involved, it is the reason the issue has blown up. Can't believe this, it's not even a big deal. Not a good move by Rocky but really disappointing it's overshadowing Browny's farewell.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 01, 2014, 10:00:26 AM
In other news Browny has pulled on the Coaches Polo this morning

http://t.co/GwBj3O5XMj

Not sure how long the gig lasts but great to see
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 01, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
Rocky is giving $1000 to a charity of his choice. Hopefully thats the end of it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 01, 2014, 04:05:39 PM
Club Statement

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-07-01/club-statement-rockliff

After discussions between the Brisbane Lions Football Club and the AFL in relation to an incident involving Tom Rockliff and North Melbourne's Brent Harvey at the end of Saturday night's game, Tom has decided to make a $1000 donation to a charity of his choice.

Tom has acknowledged he made an inappropriate comment to Brent last Saturday night and takes full responsibility for his actions.

Tom apologised to Brent on the field on Saturday night, and again yesterday by phone to make sure that apology was received - and Brent assured him that it was.

The Brisbane Lions remain committed to ensuring that all players behave respectfully and in line with club values at all times.

The AFL has been kept informed at all times and has informed the Brisbane Lions FC and Tom that it is satisfied with the action taken on this matter.

Exclusive to lions.com.au
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 01, 2014, 04:12:30 PM
In other news Browny has pulled on the Coaches Polo this morning

http://t.co/GwBj3O5XMj

Not sure how long the gig lasts but great to see

leppa to scared to lay that hand on browny
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 02, 2014, 01:43:44 AM
1000 big ones? Loose change ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 02, 2014, 02:41:42 AM
Birmingham still loves you Rocky
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 05, 2014, 08:29:50 AM
Guess whose Birthday it is today   ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 05, 2014, 08:55:20 AM
At a guess would say Sammy Michael seeing you asked?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on July 07, 2014, 05:24:08 PM
How was McStay on the weekend fellas, how long do you expect him to stay in the side?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 07, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
How was McStay on the weekend fellas, how long do you expect him to stay in the side?

Solid I thought,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 08, 2014, 04:06:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cDA5tfy.png)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on July 09, 2014, 12:28:43 AM
Who did that involve above.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 09, 2014, 07:49:34 AM
Who did that involve above.
Can't make out really.

Looks like Daniel Jackson from the Tiges, not sure who the Brissie player is though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on July 09, 2014, 08:39:10 AM
Looks a bit like Rohan Bewick and Reece Conca to me. Not really sure though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 09, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
Shane Edwards/Ricky Petterd and Rohan Bewick
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on July 09, 2014, 06:01:57 PM
Definitely not Shane Edwards lol :P

Looks like Petterd, Conca or maybe Jackson.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on July 09, 2014, 06:11:32 PM
Not good whoever was involved.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 09, 2014, 06:13:19 PM
Not good whoever was involved.

bemused on how they pick out rockliffs nudge and miss a elbow to the head.  ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on July 09, 2014, 06:23:01 PM
Not good whoever was involved.

bemused on how they pick out rockliffs nudge and miss a elbow to the head.  ::)

With the ump being close by aswell.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 09, 2014, 06:34:19 PM
Definitely not Shane Edwards lol :P

Looks like Petterd, Conca or maybe Jackson.
Yeah, it's either Petterd or Jackson. Looks like the second number on the back of the guernsey is a 3.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 10, 2014, 02:52:36 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-10/rocky-needs-to-be-smarter
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 10, 2014, 05:39:13 PM
Dunno where to post this here but this thread looks alright.

NOTO VS GOLIONS DP BET THIS WEEKEND GET ROWDY.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 10, 2014, 05:42:50 PM
Dunno where to post this here but this thread looks alright.

NOTO VS GOLIONS DP BET THIS WEEKEND GET ROWDY.
Wait what?  :o
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Berger on July 13, 2014, 07:24:07 AM
What changes should be made next week? DO we keep Close, who wasn't up to standard, or do we want to give him more games. I would like Jono Freeman to get a few games.

Our main problem this week was not being able to hit the scoreboard. If we had converted some of those chances we had we would have won.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 13, 2014, 10:25:33 AM
What changes should be made next week? DO we keep Close, who wasn't up to standard, or do we want to give him more games. I would like Jono Freeman to get a few games.

Our main problem this week was not being able to hit the scoreboard. If we had converted some of those chances we had we would have won.

we have the bye next week, Close has to stay he's going to be our main forward. Rockliff can nearly pin that loss on himself with a stupid suspension saying that he'll most likely come in for beams or paparone. Crisp in for mcstay are my changes
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 13, 2014, 12:04:27 PM
Dunno where to post this here but this thread looks alright.

NOTO VS GOLIONS DP BET THIS WEEKEND GET ROWDY.
Wait what?  :o
Yeah I lost. Awaiting the link for new DP as we speak.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on July 13, 2014, 12:05:21 PM
is the Beams injury serious? i traded out N O'Brien instead if Acres >:(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on July 13, 2014, 02:26:41 PM
is the Beams injury serious? i traded out N O'Brien instead if Acres >:(
what did he do?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 13, 2014, 03:38:54 PM
Hurt is knee in 3rd quarter and was iced so not sure how serious.  Will await reports but we have the bye next week so he may be OK.

Regarding Close I think we have to persevere with him as he will be important as going forward.  It was only his kicking that let him down last night but he was not alone in that regard.

If Beams not up then Rocky for Beams straight swap and then I would look at bringing in Crisp for McStay, Gardiner or Paparone. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 19, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Any chance ZOB will come back into the side? hope not since I want to take SJ's score for the loophole. :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 19, 2014, 10:20:58 PM
Any chance ZOB will come back into the side? hope not since I want to take SJ's score for the loophole. :P

Probably not. Leppitsch may only make 1 change with Rockliff coming in
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 20, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
Lads any chance Darcy Gardiner will be dropped? Really wanna take Harry Taylors 110 in DT :p
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 20, 2014, 07:22:52 AM
Can not see it Ele. Is a key defender atm Only chance is if Leppa wants to move Sauce back which I can not see.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 20, 2014, 08:35:21 PM
Ah crap, no worries thanks mate!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on July 21, 2014, 09:22:36 AM
Any chance ZOB will come back into the side? hope not since I want to take SJ's score for the loophole. :P
lol same mate
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 21, 2014, 10:22:25 AM
Can not see it Ele. Is a key defender atm Only chance is if Leppa wants to move Sauce back which I can not see.
After listening to Leppa this week there may be a slight chance Gardiner may be dropped but we will know on Thursday.  Leppa rates McStay ahead of Gardiner.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on July 21, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
Oh lordy, that would be outstanding! Thanks mate
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 21, 2014, 11:38:09 AM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-07-21/lions-lock-away-duo

Bewick signs on for an extra year, Robbo signs on for two
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 21, 2014, 11:43:46 AM
Good to see the signings and getting Depth back.  Robbo the obvious replacement for Moloney who should be delisted and Bewick gives us depth and has made of his oportunities with the injuries this year. Hard to fit both into our best 22 but solid depth building.
Great to see the signings so far with Robbo and Bewick joining Mayes, Rocky, Reddan, Green. Beams and Close in re-signing.
Robbo first of last years drafts to sign now to get Aish, Taylor, Gardiner. McStay and others.


Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on July 21, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
Good to see the signings and getting Depth back.  Robbo the obvious replacement for Moloney who should be delisted and Bewick gives us depth and has made of his oportunities with the injuries this year. Hard to fit both into our best 22 but solid depth building.
Great to see the signings so far with Robbo and Bewick joining Mayes, Rocky, Reddan, Green. Mayes, Beams and Close in re-signing.
Robbo first of last years drafts to sign now to get Aish, Taylor, Gardiner. McStay and others.

Mayes is that good we re-signed him twice  ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 24, 2014, 05:38:08 PM
Bris Lions v GC Suns; Rockliff, Crisp in for Golby, Paparone. Russell, Cameron in for Murphy, Kolodjashnij.

Surprised Paparone dropped but Crisp has certainly earned a promotion. So does this mean we see less of Zorko in the mids this week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Adamant on July 24, 2014, 06:23:35 PM
Any chance ZOB will come back into the side? hope not since I want to take SJ's score for the loophole. :P
lol same mate

 8)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 24, 2014, 06:28:42 PM
Any chance ZOB will come back into the side? hope not since I want to take SJ's score for the loophole. :P
lol same mate

 8)
Just remember he is still named as an emergency so need to keep an eye out for late changes but at least you can change before game.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Berger on July 25, 2014, 06:43:06 AM
Good to see the signings and getting Depth back.  Robbo the obvious replacement for Moloney who should be delisted and Bewick gives us depth and has made of his oportunities with the injuries this year. Hard to fit both into our best 22 but solid depth building.
Great to see the signings so far with Robbo and Bewick joining Mayes, Rocky, Reddan, Green. Beams and Close in re-signing.
Robbo first of last years drafts to sign now to get Aish, Taylor, Gardiner. McStay and others.

Maybe we should use Moloney as trade bait instead? Surely someone will want him. May not get much for him though  :-X
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on July 25, 2014, 07:46:53 AM
Do mot think we will get much for Moloney as he will be 31 in January.  Maybe GWS but can not see any one wanting him.

Think we should use our draft picks well especially first pick would be happy with McCartin, Durdin, Petracca or Wright to develop for life after Brown. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on July 25, 2014, 08:07:44 AM
Having Moloney play in the NEAFL the whole season doesn't exactly help his value as trade bait.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on July 25, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
Yeah typically players traded to a third club don't carry much currency
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on July 31, 2014, 06:21:01 PM
Paparone re-signed until end of 2016 :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on July 31, 2014, 07:34:43 PM
Paparone re-signed until end of 2016 :)
Gun!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 01, 2014, 09:10:29 AM
Great News what a group of re-signings to rebuild club around.

Players who have re-signed this year:
Daniel Rich
Matthew Leuenberger
Pearce Hanley
Tom Rockliff
Jack Redden
Joshua Green
Sam Mayes
Michael Close
Nick Robertson
Rohan Bewick
Claye Beams.
Ryan Lester
Marco Paparone

Need to tie up our draftees now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2014, 09:13:02 AM
what are your thoughts on the game this weekend Ringo? i cant believe Melbourne are favorites
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 01, 2014, 09:53:25 AM
Will be a low scoring game as both teams have a mind set to restrict scoring.  Not a betting man myself but would consider this to be an even bet. In the local press 3 Tipsters favour Brisbane and 2 favour Melbourne. Melbourne have not won at Etihad for ages and Brisbane do not have a good record there either.
Suspect Nathan Jones will run with Rockliff and this may be the deciding factor. Together with whether Hanleys influence can be curbed.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 01, 2014, 09:59:06 AM
yeah well sportsbet have a promo if your team loses by less then 20 they refund head to head bets so i put some $ on Brissy don't see them losing by more then 20 if they do lose
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 01, 2014, 02:44:39 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-01/lion-cubs-refuse-to-go-home

And the good news keeps coming with Taylor and Gardiner signing extended contracts.
We have now resigned 22 players including:
Daniel Rich
Matthew Leuenberger
Pearce Hanley
Tom Rockliff
Jack Redden
Joshua Green
Sam Mayes
Michael Close
Nick Robertson
Rohan Bewick
Claye Beams.
Ryan Lester
Marco Paparone
Lewis Taylor
Darcy Gardiner

Hope we can tie up Aish soon although I suspect he may wait till next year before negotiating contracts. Hands off Port and Crows.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 01, 2014, 06:34:55 PM
Aish's manager just making the lions sweat. More money to be thrown at him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 03, 2014, 01:03:51 AM
Bad injury for ex player cornelious.

Broken Femur
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 03, 2014, 04:38:43 PM
Interesting sta.

Since the Rd10 bye, we are 5 wins 4 losses with a % of 90

Oh if we had started better. Lets see if we can get wins over Crows, Pies, Dockers and Cats and finish the season.  See if we can really shape the final 8 and positions within the 8.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on August 04, 2014, 03:48:05 PM
I didn't get to see the game, but it looked like McStay played pretty well. Did anyone get to see how he played, and have we possibly found another forward in him?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 04, 2014, 03:59:45 PM
I did not see it either BB but have watched the replay and he looked good up forward.

Started in defence but was thrown forward early and really grasped the opportunity in addition to 6 marks and 3 goals he also had 14 disposals. Close and McStay looked good as a team up front and could be the future pairing.

When Berger comes back I hope we play the 2 rucks with Berger playing mainly forward as he has strong hands as well and one of the better kicks in the club. This would allow Sauce to return to defence where he is best suited imo.  His kicking for goal leaves a lot to be desired
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 04, 2014, 04:26:48 PM
I didn't get to see the game, but it looked like McStay played pretty well. Did anyone get to see how he played, and have we possibly found another forward in him?

Marks were massive. Reminded me of Jake Carlise. Go watch the smart replay on the afl site.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2014, 06:19:25 PM
yeah Close and McStay did look really good makes you wonder if you guys need another tall forward or not
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 04, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
Mmm.

They were playing melbourne- hardly the best bench mark for assessment :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on August 04, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
Mmm.

They were playing melbourne- hardly the best bench mark for assessment :P

Defensively Melbourne have been impressive under Roos.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 04, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
Mmm.

They were playing melbourne- hardly the best bench mark for assessment :P
From my perspective Zip - We are both re-building and Melbourne were good early in the season so just wanted to judge where both appear to be with rebuild. So basically just a comparison with both teams.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
hey Ringo have Brissy really been tagging anyone? i have a lack of VC options i like i'm thinking Sloane or Danger into Pendles
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 04, 2014, 09:26:20 PM
hey Ringo have Brissy really been tagging anyone? i have a lack of VC options i like i'm thinking Sloane or Danger into Pendles

Robertson has had run with roles this year but he's just a kid and been beaten, Bewick has tagged players but main small forwards.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 04, 2014, 09:28:03 PM
hey Ringo have Brissy really been tagging anyone? i have a lack of VC options i like i'm thinking Sloane or Danger into Pendles

Robertson has had run with roles this year but he's just a kid and been beaten, Bewick has tagged players but main small forwards.

cheers so you think they are decent option this week then?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 04, 2014, 09:39:24 PM
hey Ringo have Brissy really been tagging anyone? i have a lack of VC options i like i'm thinking Sloane or Danger into Pendles

Robertson has had run with roles this year but he's just a kid and been beaten, Bewick has tagged players but main small forwards.

cheers so you think they are decent option this week then?

Most definitely.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 05, 2014, 06:50:18 AM
Thanks Strikes - Brisbane appear to adopting more of run with roles rather than tight tags and appears to be paying off. Lester is one who is often used in this role but also gets his own ball.

So in summary we no longer tight tag but expect run with roles. Wopuld be exciting ths week to see Sloane and Rocky go head to head,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on August 05, 2014, 04:35:18 PM
I guess that means Andrew Raines will no longer be at the club next year?

His stats in the NEAFL look like he is finding a bit of the ball, but he has slipped down the pecking order a fair way it would seem.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 05, 2014, 04:47:31 PM
Will be interesting at end of season what we do with Moloney, Raines and McGrath who is a restricted free agent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on August 05, 2014, 05:56:42 PM
Merrett ridiculously lucky to get off
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 05, 2014, 06:26:52 PM
Is there a certain amount that you have to delist ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 05, 2014, 06:35:57 PM
Is there a certain amount that you have to delist ?

Depends how many u want to draft
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on August 05, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
Need to make atleast 3 list changes
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 05, 2014, 07:43:52 PM
Brown has retired so that is a definite - and as I said earlier Interesting choices with Moloney, Raines and McGrath. Polkinghorne may be used as trade bait,

Decision has to be made regarding Sam Michael as he has been on the rookie list for three years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 05, 2014, 09:19:08 PM
Michael is surely gone. West, Berger and Martin. then Archie Smith
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 06, 2014, 06:19:36 AM
Sam  :'( Could we delist him and then re draft him?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 10, 2014, 02:37:26 PM
Is Crisp playing forward a fair bit?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 12, 2014, 06:09:56 AM
so do you think Crisp is best 22 material Ringo? has really impressed me
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 12, 2014, 08:09:04 AM
Crisp has been impressive and has been the standout in the NEAFL and deserving of the promotion. IMO he will always be on the fringe of the best 22 but great to get games into him. Rich and Reddan are to return next year as well so competition for the final couple of places will be intense. Mayes, Aish, Lester, Bewick, Robertson, O'Brien, Crisp and Taylor will probably all be fighting for 4 positions.
Just wish we had similar forward depth.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 12, 2014, 07:39:38 PM
I like him roaming off the HF line. Agility and strong mark
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 12, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
Agree Crisp so think Bewick, Taylor, Crisp and Staker when he comes back may be competing for these positions.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 12, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
Has Bewick been playing defence for the last couple of weeks? Hasn't looked to bad back their.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 12, 2014, 07:53:56 PM
The one good side to our year with injuries we have got games into all our youngsters so the future looking great, McStay looks as though he could develop into the Key FF as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 12, 2014, 09:48:41 PM
Has Bewick been playing defence for the last couple of weeks? Hasn't looked to bad back their.

On the wing, saved his career.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 12, 2014, 10:05:33 PM
Moving to Melbourne has been sweet. Been here 7-8 weeks, seen Lions Tiges, Lions Dees and going to see Lions Pies this week  ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 13, 2014, 05:48:37 AM
Has Bewick been playing defence for the last couple of weeks? Hasn't looked to bad back their.

On the wing, saved his career.
Ah, thanks mate.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2014, 07:03:37 AM
Moving to Melbourne has been sweet. Been here 7-8 weeks, seen Lions Tiges, Lions Dees and going to see Lions Pies this week  ;D
Let me know Nails for next season if you want details of open training sessions.  They are usually down St Kilda,

Here is this weeks ones details

4:00pm Friday 15th August @ Wesley College, St Kilda Rd, Melbourne
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 13, 2014, 07:07:20 AM
Worth going? I'd be keen but it's like 40-50 minutes away from where I am now.

Also wish I had spare money - if I go to the footy I won't have enough, but Lions online store selling guernseys for $50 now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 13, 2014, 08:17:13 AM
Up to you Nails but each time they play in Melbourne they usually have an open training session for Melbourne fans. Will advise next year as well if you like sending you a PM. Usually send GL one so can add you.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on August 14, 2014, 05:36:11 PM
With Rocky playing his 100th game this weekend, this seems to be needed

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Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 14, 2014, 06:55:05 PM
Is that a mullett ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 17, 2014, 03:42:43 PM
Chances of Rich getting DPP as in D/M guys?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 17, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Would have if he played more games - do not know how many CD need to change. Started on HB in most games played.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on August 17, 2014, 05:10:10 PM
Thanks Ringo, hope he gets it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 17, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 18, 2014, 07:24:24 AM
Will be hard as Rich only played 3 games.  Leppa in his attempt to hrlp Rich evade the tight tags and give some drive with his lethal left boot started him across Half back in all three games.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 18, 2014, 08:30:26 AM
so guessing Gardiner wont play this week

hurts because Suckling might not play :'(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on August 18, 2014, 08:37:20 AM
Yeh 3 games wouldn't be enough to influence positional changes
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 18, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
It's happened before hasn't it? I distinctly remember someone losing DPP after only a handful if games.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 18, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
It's happened before hasn't it? I distinctly remember someone losing DPP after only a handful if games.

was that Daisy?

i think it's easier to lose it then gain it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 18, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
It's happened before hasn't it? I distinctly remember someone losing DPP after only a handful if games.

was that Daisy?

i think it's easier to lose it then gain it

maybe. Or fyfe?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 18, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
well i know Daisy had M/F last year only played 5 games but lost it this year

i think he might get M/F for next year also
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: CrowsFan on August 18, 2014, 12:26:51 PM
Xavie Ellis lost defender status after only playing 3 games in the AFL, but he did also play VFL games, which does impact what position they get.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Mac on August 18, 2014, 03:13:22 PM
Any chance of ZOB saving my *rse this week?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 18, 2014, 03:16:59 PM
Sorry Big Mac can not see it. Robbo has the nod imo before him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 18, 2014, 04:17:01 PM
he did get 42 touches and a goal in the reserves though apparently but even then I can't see him coming in. If Merrett was to be out I expect McGrath to play his last Gabba match
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 18, 2014, 04:25:07 PM
Fair call Strikes - Gardiner in some doubt as well. See Hanley is looking forward to tangling with Crowley again as well.

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-08-18/hanley-ready-for-crowley
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on August 27, 2014, 09:18:58 AM
Raines to part ways with the Lions

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-27/raines-lions-split
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on August 27, 2014, 10:47:30 AM
Raines to part ways with the Lions

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-27/raines-lions-split

Leppitsch raine-d on his parade?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nails on August 27, 2014, 11:00:28 AM
Raines to part ways with the Lions

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-27/raines-lions-split

Leppitsch raine-d on his parade?

no, just no.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 27, 2014, 12:56:21 PM
Not to be unexpected although I thought he would have been at least offered a reduced contract given his form in the NEAFL.

Will be interesting if picked up by another club and he resumes his tagging roles.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 27, 2014, 04:42:33 PM
Can you take Mcguan with you Raines? Lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on August 28, 2014, 01:29:14 PM
so after he has played a few games

Crisp a good chance for M/F status?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on August 28, 2014, 03:01:17 PM
Would be crazy if he didn't. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't play many games though  :-X
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 28, 2014, 03:12:24 PM
He could be a DPP but I would not be holding breath waiting for games given the payers to return from injury. He would be behind Rocky, Redden, Hanley, Rich, Aish, Mayes, Lester in mids and Taylor, Bewick and Staker for H/F,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on August 28, 2014, 05:43:39 PM
My boy Jordon Bourke debuts.  8)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on August 28, 2014, 05:57:08 PM
Nice to see bourke get a run.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on August 28, 2014, 08:21:03 PM
Agree great to see Bourkie get a run.  Another graduate from the acadamey.  Merrett named on interchange is a good move as he can be thrown in where needed, Also handy with both McStay and Bourke capable of playing back as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 01, 2014, 05:31:48 PM
Saw a tweet that Patrick Ryder wants to come to Brisbane. odd
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 01, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
Saw a tweet that Patrick Ryder wants to come to Brisbane. odd
I've heard that rumour too. Would there really be a space for him in the team? Can't see him being played as a ruckman.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 01, 2014, 06:50:51 PM
Posted in the other thread - If being used as a forward maybe and allow Sauce back to defence.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 01, 2014, 10:10:12 PM
Posted in the other thread - If being used as a forward maybe and allow Sauce back to defence.

what would we give up for him, can't see it happening. Not worth pick 4 and we have academy players lurking with others.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 02, 2014, 06:57:59 AM
BTW Strikes very low maybe as well.  If Lisle was not de-listed if he was involved could have worn it but definitely not pick 4. McGuane has not worked out as the mature age forward we are seeking whilst we develop and do not see Sauce as the solution.
Wait till see what shakes down as only rumour at this stage. Would not want to offer too much either especially if we are going after Beams next year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 02, 2014, 08:40:06 PM
Maybe offer something around Stef Martin? Surely he'd have some value after this season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 09:00:24 PM
Maybe offer something around Stef Martin? Surely he'd have some value after this season.
We just extended his contract until the end of 2016
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 02, 2014, 09:03:26 PM
Maybe offer something around Stef Martin? Surely he'd have some value after this season.
We just extended his contract until the end of 2016
Surely doesn't mean you can't trade him :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 09:09:54 PM
Maybe offer something around Stef Martin? Surely he'd have some value after this season.
We just extended his contract until the end of 2016
Surely doesn't mean you can't trade him :P
While he'd have a lot of value now, Leuey is injury prone and I don't want West as our only ruck
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: My Chumps on September 02, 2014, 09:11:51 PM
Maybe offer something around Stef Martin? Surely he'd have some value after this season.
We just extended his contract until the end of 2016
Surely doesn't mean you can't trade him :P
While he'd have a lot of value now, Leuey is injury prone and I don't want West as our only ruck
I meant offer Stef as part of a deal for Ryder...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 02, 2014, 09:15:14 PM
Maybe offer something around Stef Martin? Surely he'd have some value after this season.
We just extended his contract until the end of 2016
Surely doesn't mean you can't trade him :P
While he'd have a lot of value now, Leuey is injury prone and I don't want West as our only ruck
I meant offer Stef as part of a deal for Ryder...
Oh haha
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2014, 07:36:56 AM
Not as stupid as it sounds but maybe offer West rater than Martin.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 03, 2014, 01:01:05 PM
Not as stupid as it sounds but maybe offer West rater than Martin.

might consider Martin but not SpudWest

i'm confident it's not going to happen
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ADEZ on September 03, 2014, 02:00:59 PM
Squizzy! Very well deserved
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 03, 2014, 03:13:18 PM
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Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2014, 03:31:54 PM
Very Well deserved "squizzy" well done.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on September 03, 2014, 03:50:11 PM
Congrats to Lewis well done.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
We can thank Elliot Yeo for going home for Squizzy as he was taken with pick 28 which Eagles traded to us as part of the Yeo deal.  No doubt the steal of the draft after falling so low.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nas on September 03, 2014, 04:03:36 PM
Wonder what pick you'll get when Aish goes home to the Crows?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2014, 04:09:39 PM
Aish is in the process of negotiating an extended contract at the moment, In a way the go home cry babies have probably galvanised the group as they are indicating they want to stay together.

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2014-09-03/aish-to-begin-talks
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 03, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
Fantastic season from Taylor. Thoroughly deserving of the win. We really did draft well at the end of last season, let's hope these kids stick around the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 03, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
Think we really did well out of the trades with picks for the go home 5

Pick 22 - Darcy Gardiner
Pick 25 - Daniel McStay
Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor
Pick 33 - Tom Cutler
Pick 34 - Nick Robertson

Fair return at this stage.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 03, 2014, 04:47:37 PM
Squizzy!!!!! #gun
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 03, 2014, 04:52:48 PM
we were 1 pick off not getting him. GWS didn't like it we took him at 28
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 03, 2014, 06:07:19 PM
Yeo > Taylor.

There I said it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 03, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
Yeo < Taylor.

There I said it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 04, 2014, 08:29:19 AM
Another rumour coming out of Lions is that may be listing Pearce Hanley's younger brother as an international rookie. Know the risks involved with brothers but if he even gets to 50% of Pearce will be worth it. Just hope if it is true he works out better than Neal McKeever.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 04, 2014, 10:17:00 AM
Well done Lewy! Well deserved.  8)

Honestly can still not believe the kid slipped to #28 in the draft last year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 04, 2014, 09:52:50 PM
Another rumour coming out of Lions is that may be listing Pearce Hanley's younger brother as an international rookie. Know the risks involved with brothers but if he even gets to 50% of Pearce will be worth it. Just hope if it is true he works out better than Neal McKeever.

Cian aKa (Key/in)

Recently done an ACL but has already signed with the club apparently

Rumor going around Merrett maybe be leaving, hope not
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nas on September 05, 2014, 08:19:00 AM
Lumumba for Merrett swap?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 05, 2014, 10:18:21 AM
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/cian-hanley-brother-of-pearce-set-to-join-brisbane-lions-despite-knee-injury/story-fnp04d6z-1227047992361

Couple of interesting extracts from this article.

"Brisbane will have to wait 12 months before Cian is ready to kick his first Sherrin after the 17-year-old suffered an ACL injury in the All Ireland minor (under 18s) semi-final last week.

The Lions have also confirmed their interest in Essendon star Paddy Ryder, who is reportedly seeking a fresh start and has strong links to the Sunshine State through his wife, who is a Queenslander."

Pearce said his brother his light years ahead of him in endurance but he has him for pace. 

Also confirmation that we will be seeking to deal if Ryder nominates Brisbane as his preferred club.

@ Nas just remains to be seen to see whether we want a 28 y/o to replace a 30 year old. Could be handy fr a couple of years while our young defenders continue to develop with Maguire and Patful also
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Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 05, 2014, 01:33:43 PM
can't see sauce being traded. 2nd rounder for ryder been thrown around
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2014, 02:18:30 PM
2nd rounder for Ryder is an absolute joke
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 05, 2014, 02:21:16 PM
2nd rounder for Ryder is an absolute joke

Injecting your players with substances that could harm a players unborn child is an absolute joke.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
2nd rounder for Ryder is an absolute joke

Injecting your players with substances that could harm a players unborn child is an absolute joke.

see, you give as good as you get....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on September 05, 2014, 02:27:25 PM
2nd rounder for Ryder is an absolute joke

Injecting your players with substances that could harm a players unborn child is an absolute joke.

see, you give as good as you get....

...Huh?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 05, 2014, 02:31:45 PM
Lumumba for Merrett swap?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-05/key-lion-going-nowhere
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 07, 2014, 11:18:38 AM
can't see sauce being traded. 2nd rounder for ryder been thrown around

Who's there first round for Beams ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 07, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
Do not think we will be making a play for Beams till next year when his contract is up.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 07, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
Do not think we will be making a play for Beams till next year when his contract is up.

Been a lot of talk about it don't think all is right at the Pies if he wants to come home the Pies may get more for him this year than next watch this space  ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 07, 2014, 05:39:39 PM
Do not think we will be making a play for Beams till next year when his contract is up.

if he is not contracted do we still have to make a deal with Collingwood ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 07, 2014, 06:17:27 PM
Do not think we will be making a play for Beams till next year when his contract is up.

if he is not contracted do we still have to make a deal with Collingwood ?
When he comes out of contract next year he will be eligible as a free agent I believe.

It would be great if we could get Beams up to Brisbane. Would much rather have him than Ryder.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 07, 2014, 06:33:09 PM
Do not think we will be making a play for Beams till next year when his contract is up.

if he is not contracted do we still have to make a deal with Collingwood ?
When he comes out of contract next year he will be eligible as a free agent I believe.

It would be great if we could get Beams up to Brisbane. Would much rather have him than Ryder.
He is only 24 for but maybe a restricted free agent ? If the Lions are willing to cough up there first pick and maybe a good young player and he wants to come home who knows but it would be a trade bonanza for the Lions
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 07, 2014, 06:43:08 PM
Do not think we will be making a play for Beams till next year when his contract is up.

if he is not contracted do we still have to make a deal with Collingwood ?
When he comes out of contract next year he will be eligible as a free agent I believe.

It would be great if we could get Beams up to Brisbane. Would much rather have him than Ryder.
He is only 24 for but maybe a restricted free agent ? If the Lions are willing to cough up there first pick and maybe a good young player and he wants to come home who knows but it would be a trade bonanza for the Lions
Yes it would be a restricted free agent, but with all the money in our salary cap, I'm sure we could offer him more than Collingwood.

Not sure if he is worth a first round pick and gun kid at this stage though. Unless we have someone else that wanted to go back home to Victoria, but there's none I can see going now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 07, 2014, 06:43:52 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-free-agency-how-it-works-20121001-26ue3.html

As Beams was first drafted by the Pies in 2008 this means he has only been on the list for 7 years and as a such a trade must be negotiated with Collingwood or he takes his chances in the draft. Can not see Pies delisting him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 07, 2014, 07:27:46 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-free-agency-how-it-works-20121001-26ue3.html

As Beams was first drafted by the Pies in 2008 this means he has only been on the list for 7 years and as a such a trade must be negotiated with Collingwood or he takes his chances in the draft. Can not see Pies delisting him.

Can't see them delisting him but what if he want's to come home , what will happen next year what do they get ? If tells them he wants to go home might they be able to have more leverage in draft picks with the Lions  this year than a restricted free agent next year ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 07, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
Shaker as he would still be in the 7 seasons or less at end of next year those rules will apply.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 07, 2014, 07:55:17 PM
Shaker as he would still be in the 7 seasons or less at end of next year those rules will apply.

Cheers Ringo it was in paper again today and where there is smoke there is fire , think all is not well at Pies seen some say Buckley is Voss MKII anyway he would be a great pick up , we might just have to be a bit more patient but I feel something is going on and maybe not about $$$
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 07, 2014, 09:49:08 PM
What's the difference between restricted free agent and unrestricted ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 07, 2014, 10:06:41 PM
What's the difference between restricted free agent and unrestricted ?

restricted means the clubs can choose to match any cash offers

unrestricted means they don't get the above choice
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 08, 2014, 07:37:31 AM
Thanks Shaker for the update Obviously we do not get a lot of AFL info in our press. 

On another matter reports today indicate we are stepping up our discussions with Ryder now that Bombers are out of finals.

We have also increased our coaching staff with the introduction of Danny Daly from Richmond, We are also negotiating with GWS to return Craig Lambert to the Lions den to assist in Welfare department. 

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 08, 2014, 03:32:20 PM
Does Browny have a coaching role?  Could be really good for Close/Freeman etc.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 08, 2014, 03:34:37 PM
Simon Black is the forwards coach currently. Brown has been helping out but I think he has media plans for next year rather than coaching.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 08, 2014, 04:06:12 PM
Simon Black is the forwards coach currently. Brown has been helping out but I think he has media plans for next year rather than coaching.
Yeah, thought he had an informal role. Will be interesting to see his media role, no doubt he has a good footy brain Or whats left of it after all those head knocks.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 11, 2014, 08:49:01 PM
@brisbanelions: Leppa says @JBrown will be a part-time coach with the Club in 2015, helping the young forwards with technique #lionsforum

Guess this answers my question.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 13, 2014, 07:54:57 PM
Sam Mayes to be a defender next season in fantasy or a forward, or a defender forward?

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 13, 2014, 08:49:05 PM
Sam Mayes to be a defender next season in fantasy or a forward, or a defender forward?
Has played quite a bit down back, so should get d/f. Wouldn't have played enough down there to only get defender status though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2014, 01:25:09 PM
Sam Mayes to be a defender next season in fantasy or a forward, or a defender forward?
Has played quite a bit down back, so should get d/f. Wouldn't have played enough down there to only get defender status though.
Will depend on what CD see. leppa has used Mayes in a number of roles this year to assist his development and one of these was to give run of HB down the wing which he did in a few games.  Whether or not that is sufficient to warrant D/F is problematic.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 14, 2014, 01:29:06 PM
Fox and Channel 7 no doubt would be looking at Brown for a media role
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 14, 2014, 01:42:38 PM
Agree Mialman - brown is tailor made for media - Will be a part time forwards coach though concentrating on developing the young forwards Freeman, Close, McStay, Bourke etc.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 14, 2014, 03:04:20 PM
Couldn't see it any other way, I'm sure he'll continue to be a big part of the club's development
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 14, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Yeah, a number of ex-players have been involved with clubs while undertaking media roles like Richo and Lingy, definitely wouldn't be surprised to see Browny follow suit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 17, 2014, 08:13:16 AM
Do not want to a wet blanket but would it be a big deal if we do not get Ryder?

I will be more than happy with Berger/Martin and back up from West when he is fully recovered.  Archie Smith is developing nicely as well.

Edit:  Following up a report in todays paper.

Brisbane are tabling a 4 year offer worth $2.5m for Ryder.  We acknowledge we are behind Port Adelaide if Ryder chooses success as first criteria.

Rdyer and his partner are currently spending a couple of days in Brisbane and were entertained at a BBQ at Leigh Matthews home attended by Leppa, Dean Warren and Greg Swan amongst others.

It is great to see we have learned by our recruiting debacles over the last couple of years with Roos, Buddy and Tippett and staying on the front foot.  Although as said above do not think it is the end of the world if we do not get Ryder.  Really regrett the club not going all out for Tippett who would be really welcome now especially as he made it clear initially he would like to return home.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 17, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
Obviously it would be nice to get him, but I agree I wouldn't be all that disappointed if he stayed at the Bombers or went somewhere else. Means we'll get more games into our younger kids, which is good as we won't be pushing for finals next year or anything.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 17, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
You're right, don't think it would be a big deal at all. Stef has shown that he is a more than capable ruck this year, he and Berger could form a good pair next year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 18, 2014, 12:39:28 PM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,76903.1325.html

Ben Hudson is returning to Lions as Defensive Skills and Ruck Coach, Completes the coaching panel now for next year.

This appointment together with the appointment of Danny Daly as stoppages coach is welcomed along with the part time appointment of Brown as Forwards coach. Could not ask for a better person than Simon Black to take on the role of Contest Skills and midfield coach.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Pkbaldy on September 18, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,76903.1325.html

Ben Hudson is returning to Lions as Defensive Skills and Ruck Coach, Completes the coaching panel now for next year.

This appointment together with the appointment of Danny Daly as stoppages coach is welcomed along with the part time appointment of Brown as Forwards coach. Could not ask for a better person than Simon Black to take on the role of Contest Skills and midfield coach.

Things are looking very good for Brisbane... They will be contesting with the new teams for the top 4 in a few years.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 20, 2014, 08:55:23 PM
So pre draft, what will our best 22 look like next year??

FB: J. Patfull; D. Merrett; D. Gardiner
HB: D. Rich; J. Clarke; R. Harwood
C: J. Adcock; J. Redden; J. Green
HF: D. Zorko; J. Freeman; M. Close
FF: D. McStay; P. Ryder; L. Taylor
FOL: M. Leuenberger; T. Rockliff; P. Hanley


INT: S. Martin; J. Aish; R. Bewick; S. Mayes

Unlucky: Goose, Crisp, West, Staker, Beames, Paparone, Lester.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2014, 08:59:59 PM
would you really have all 4 of Ryder, McStay, Freeman and Close ? 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 20, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
would you really have all 4 of Ryder, McStay, Freeman and Close ?
Maybe. If one had to go it would probably be Close, maybe for Crisp or Lester.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 20, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
would you really have all 4 of Ryder, McStay, Freeman and Close ?
Maybe. If one had to go it would probably be Close, maybe for Crisp or Lester.

yeah just seems way to tall if you add S Martin

i really like Crisp and think he should be given a good run
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 20, 2014, 09:07:12 PM
would you really have all 4 of Ryder, McStay, Freeman and Close ?
Maybe. If one had to go it would probably be Close, maybe for Crisp or Lester.

yeah just seems way to tall if you add S Martin

i really like Crisp and think he should be given a good run
I like Crisp as well, but is really a victim of our depth. Martin will play as more of a midfielder than a tall.

I think we will also have quite a tall draft, with Dawson and Hammelmann coming through the academy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 20, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
FB: J. Patfull; D. Merrett; D. Gardiner
HB: D. Rich; J. Clarke; T.Cutler
C: J. Adcock; J. Redden; R.Bewick
HF: D. Zorko; B.Staker; M.Paparone
FF: J.Green; M.Close; L. Taylor
FOL: M. Leuenberger; T. Rockliff; P. Hanley


INT: S. Martin; J. Aish; D.McStay; S. Mayes

Don't reckon we'll get Ryder.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 21, 2014, 06:24:33 AM
Think you have nailed the team without Ryder Strikes.

Only 2 real contentious positions Harwood v Cutler and Paparone v Freeman

I do not think we will get Ryder either as I do not see us giving up pick 4 whereas Port may be prepared to give their first round pick which may be around 7 or more higher than our second round depending on compo picks.

Would like Staker to have a full pre-season though prior to selection.

Unlucky players would be Lester, Goose and the 2 who miss out. Robo, Zac O'b, Crisp, Golby and Beams give us solid back up.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 21, 2014, 06:29:15 AM
FB: J. Patfull; D. Merrett; D. Gardiner
HB: D. Rich; J. Clarke; T.Cutler
C: J. Adcock; J. Redden; R.Bewick
HF: D. Zorko; B.Staker; M.Paparone
FF: J.Green; M.Close; L. Taylor
FOL: M. Leuenberger; T. Rockliff; P. Hanley


INT: S. Martin; J. Aish; D.McStay; S. Mayes

Don't reckon we'll get Ryder.


I guess hats a pretty good team without Ryder. Paparone though? I dont really think we need more running players through the forward line. I'd probably Rather Freeman their.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 21, 2014, 10:37:21 AM
FB: J. Patfull; D. Merrett; D. Gardiner
HB: D. Rich; J. Clarke; T.Cutler
C: J. Adcock; J. Redden; R.Bewick
HF: D. Zorko; B.Staker; M.Paparone
FF: J.Green; M.Close; L. Taylor
FOL: M. Leuenberger; T. Rockliff; P. Hanley


INT: S. Martin; J. Aish; D.McStay; S. Mayes

Don't reckon we'll get Ryder.


I guess hats a pretty good team without Ryder. Paparone though? I dont really think we need more running players through the forward line. I'd probably Rather Freeman their.

forward line is slim indeed. Freeman could be in there somewhere I guess.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 21, 2014, 11:47:43 AM
Lester stiff to miss? :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 21, 2014, 02:49:13 PM
Lester stiff to miss? :(
Yeah, quite stiff. No doubt when injuries and form have their say, Lester may get in.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 21, 2014, 07:55:04 PM
FB: J. Patfull; D. Merrett; D. Gardiner
HB: D. Rich; J. Clarke; T.Cutler
C: J. Adcock; J. Redden; R.Bewick
HF: D. Zorko; B.Staker; M.Paparone
FF: J.Green; M.Close; L. Taylor
FOL: M. Leuenberger; T. Rockliff; P. Hanley


INT: S. Martin; J. Aish; D.McStay; S. Mayes

Don't reckon we'll get Ryder.


I guess hats a pretty good team without Ryder. Paparone though? I dont really think we need more running players through the forward line. I'd probably Rather Freeman their.

forward line is slim indeed. Freeman could be in there somewhere I guess.
Close out, McStay into FF, Cutler to bench, Harwood HBF?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 22, 2014, 08:22:47 AM
FB: J. Patfull; D. Merrett; D. Gardiner
HB: D. Rich; J. Clarke; T.Cutler
C: J. Adcock; J. Redden; R.Bewick
HF: D. Zorko; B.Staker; M.Paparone
FF: J.Green; M.Close; L. Taylor
FOL: M. Leuenberger; T. Rockliff; P. Hanley


INT: S. Martin; J. Aish; D.McStay; S. Mayes

Don't reckon we'll get Ryder.


I guess hats a pretty good team without Ryder. Paparone though? I dont really think we need more running players through the forward line. I'd probably Rather Freeman their.

forward line is slim indeed. Freeman could be in there somewhere I guess.
Close out, McStay into FF, Cutler to bench, Harwood HBF?
How about  Paparone out , Berger to start at CHF, Martin in ruck Cutler to bench and Harwood to HB. Like that structure with Staker moving to wings where he is at his best.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 22, 2014, 09:02:24 AM
FB: J. Patfull; D. Merrett; D. Gardiner
HB: D. Rich; J. Clarke; T.Cutler
C: J. Adcock; J. Redden; R.Bewick
HF: D. Zorko; B.Staker; M.Paparone
FF: J.Green; M.Close; L. Taylor
FOL: M. Leuenberger; T. Rockliff; P. Hanley


INT: S. Martin; J. Aish; D.McStay; S. Mayes

Don't reckon we'll get Ryder.


I guess hats a pretty good team without Ryder. Paparone though? I dont really think we need more running players through the forward line. I'd probably Rather Freeman their.

forward line is slim indeed. Freeman could be in there somewhere I guess.
Close out, McStay into FF, Cutler to bench, Harwood HBF?
How about  Paparone out , Berger to start at CHF, Martin in ruck Cutler to bench and Harwood to HB. Like that structure with Staker moving to wings where he is at his best.
Yeah that looks pretty good. Basically, I think Harwood has to play round 1 next year, was very very good over the last month or 2 this season and could lock down that role at half back
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 22, 2014, 11:39:08 AM
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Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 24, 2014, 05:41:23 PM
Like I said where there is smoke there is fire Beams wants to go home will pick 4 get him ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on September 24, 2014, 05:50:34 PM
Does pick 4 go to Dons or Pies?

Surely Beams is worth more than Ryder
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 24, 2014, 05:53:02 PM
Things are looking so good for the Lions.

Beams comes over. Got a legitimate set of guns.

Leuy, Rockliff, Beams, Hanley, Redden, Rich, Zorko, Adcock.

Stef Martin turned into a gun.

Killed last years draft with Aish, McStay and LTaylor.

Just need another KPP.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 24, 2014, 05:53:27 PM
Does pick 4 go to Dons or Pies?

Surely Beams is worth more than Ryder

Ryder is firming for Port but the if the Lions can snag Beams it will the pickup of the trade period
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: _wato on September 24, 2014, 05:59:43 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on September 24, 2014, 06:03:09 PM
If Lions can snag both Ryder and Beams lock them in for top 8 next year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on September 24, 2014, 06:08:25 PM
I think it would be unlikely to see them get their hands on both Beams and Ryder, and surely Beams is more needed at the Lions than Ryder is? Would be throwing as much as you can at him!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: _wato on September 24, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
They'd have to part ways with pick 4 for it to happen - Plus a player, Beams is easily worth that.

Leuey + Pick 4? I'd take that ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 24, 2014, 06:12:51 PM
That is way overs. Given beams isnt contracted pick 4 is the most he's worth
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on September 24, 2014, 06:16:33 PM
If Ryder walks into FA it is very possible
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on September 24, 2014, 06:17:47 PM
That is way overs. Given beams isnt contracted pick 4 is the most he's worth

and Mitchell is worth 6? 4 and a player seems right
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on September 24, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
Ryder will most likely walk out on Essendon and enter the PSD Beams could do the same as well
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 24, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
They'd have to part ways with pick 4 for it to happen - Plus a player, Beams is easily worth that.

Leuey + Pick 4? I'd take that ;)
How about West and pick 4
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
May have to work a 3 way trade but anything is possible.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on September 24, 2014, 06:26:03 PM
Ryder will most likely walk out on Essendon and enter the PSD Beams could do the same as well

If Ryder breaks his contract he can sign anywhere as a delisted FA. No need for the draft.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: _wato on September 24, 2014, 06:26:26 PM
I think Beams understands he will do the best for the club given we've done so much for him and he's leaving extremely unexpectedly. He's a required player and has decided to shock everyone and leave to reutn to his family.

I wouldn't see him doing anything untoward whereas Ryder has gone through a whole lot at Essendon and I would completely understand if he couldn't care about the welfare of the club and go through FA.

Hahaha and Mat is right, you think Mitchell is worth pick 6 and Beams is not worth pick 4 and a player? You must have rocks in your head if you believe Mitchell is that much better. I still believe Mitchell is not worth that much.

Anyway that's off topic.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on September 24, 2014, 06:28:19 PM
After the exodus last season Brisbane this year could come away with 2 ready made stars. Talk about a turnaround in a season. So 4 and a player for Beams is a possibility or he could go to GC who have 2 first round picks to offer. 2nd round pick for Ryder and if he really wants to go there he can threaten to walk for nothing. Well played Brisbane, well played
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: meow meow on September 24, 2014, 06:34:12 PM
Pick 4 and Mayes to the Crows, Dangerfield to the Pies, Beams to Brissy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2014, 06:36:46 PM
Great to see the boot on the other foot this year with the go home factor - Beams may go to Suns but they have limited room in salary cap.
Would hate us to trade overs though Pick 4 and an average player say Crisp would be the maximum I would offer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 24, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
Surely playing with his brother has to have a part in it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Noz on September 24, 2014, 06:41:52 PM
$2-1 he ends up at Sydney
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: _wato on September 24, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
Great to see the boot on the other foot this year with the go home factor - Beams may go to Suns but they have limited room in salary cap.
Would hate us to trade overs though Pick 4 and an average player say Crisp would be the maximum I would offer.

Collingwood wouldn't take Crisp - However we'd take Danger if the rumours are true and he's headed to Melbourne, plus Adelaide would love some young talent as they've missed out in the past couple of years due to the Tippett saga.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2014, 06:44:49 PM
Yep as i said maybe a three way trade - Pick 4 and a player to Crows, Danger to Pies and Beams to Brisbane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mat0369 on September 24, 2014, 06:45:01 PM
They wouldn't take Crisp. Also add in the fact there is a team south of Brisbane that has 2 first round picks and an abundance of young talent, they would have to give up 4 and something good.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 24, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
Did not name the player Matt but you are right and we have some SA young talent on our books.

 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 24, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
That is way overs. Given beams isnt contracted pick 4 is the most he's worth

and Mitchell is worth 6? 4 and a player seems right

4 and a player is probably fine. Definitely not anyone near Leuenberger quality though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on September 24, 2014, 07:05:06 PM
That is way overs. Given beams isnt contracted pick 4 is the most he's worth

He is contracted till the end of 2015 isnt he ?.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 24, 2014, 07:05:49 PM
That is way overs. Given beams isnt contracted pick 4 is the most he's worth

He is contracted till the end of 2015 isnt he ?.

He might be, I got the impression he wasn't though

Edit: I stand corrected he is contracted till end of next year never mind, probably worth a bit more then.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on September 24, 2014, 07:08:55 PM
That is way overs. Given beams isnt contracted pick 4 is the most he's worth

He is contracted till the end of 2015 isnt he ?.

He might be, I got the impression he wasn't though

Yeh he is, its in the AFL sites write up regarding him wanting to leave, just read it.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-24/beams-wants-to-go-home
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 24, 2014, 07:11:39 PM
Yeah I read it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 28, 2014, 09:05:10 PM
think we're looking at over 85% chance of having beams in Brisbane next season. Going to be exciting

Poor old Richy will cop the tag but allowing Beams, Rocky, Zorko and Hanley to run free with Redden doing what he does  :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on September 29, 2014, 06:05:23 AM
Dont know if this has been mentioned, but maybe we could put Golby or Lester on the table. Could they be worth more than Crisp??

btw, Why wouldnt Collingwood accept Crisp?? Is a decent player.

think we're looking at over 85% chance of having beams in Brisbane next season. Going to be exciting

Poor old Richy will cop the tag but allowing Beams, Rocky, Zorko and Hanley to run free with Redden doing what he does  :D
I do like the sound of that  :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 08:05:47 AM
Golby and pick 4 has been mentioned especially with Lumumba leaving and Golby would slot into that position.  Lester is other option if Pies want a starting player. Bewick may be another possibility,

Strikes not sure if we get beams whether they will still tag Rich or change to Beams with his running.

Will be an insane midfield Beams, Rocky, Rich, Redden, Hanley, Zorko, Martin/Berger with Squizzy also running through at times. Lester and Mayes to also provide back up.

Only downside will be losing pick 4 where we would have secured a KPP. However with the form McStay showed when moved forward do not think that is as important, With Close and freeman also coming through. Paine also to come back from injury. Unfortunately the McGuane draft does not appear to be working.

Edit: Gold Coast have withdrawn from the race due to insufficient room in their Salary Cap so it is up to us now to get the deal done.  Reports also that Beams has knocked back the latest offer from Collingwood as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 29, 2014, 09:05:49 AM
Think this going to be a long haul if the 3 way deal is going to happen , think the Crows will get better than pick 4 and an average player from the Demons
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
@shaker Brisbane have ruled out a 3 way deal with Crows at present.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 29, 2014, 09:09:41 AM
The Pies are going to demand a better player than Golby to go with pick 4 maybe Rich ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 09:14:33 AM
part of the fun with negotiations shaker. Bearing in mind that pick 4 has some currency as well in this draft. Pies are wanting Hanley but that will not happen.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 29, 2014, 01:16:42 PM
Warren stating that we're only going to offer pick 4, I can see this being raised to pick 4 and 24 to get it done. Collingwood will want to trade him this year and not next year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 03:14:58 PM
Agree Strikes - With being out of contract next year Pies will want to arrange something this year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 03:28:56 PM
Not really. They are likely to finish bottom 8 this year so there compo  pick will be high up there plus they would get another season of production  from Beams. So Brisbane cant play too hardball
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Vinny on September 29, 2014, 03:30:08 PM
Beams isn't contracted next season so if they keep him against his will, he can walk for nothing next season can't he?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 03:32:23 PM
Beams isn't contracted next season so if they keep him against his will, he can walk for nothing next season can't he?

He is in contract, has one more year left so he's either going this year or next year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Mac on September 29, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
No way is he staying at collingwood for another season. His dad has cancer for flower's sake - No one can deny Beams the opportunity to be with him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 29, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
Beams isn't contracted next season so if they keep him against his will, he can walk for nothing next season can't he?

Still will get compo which will be the pick after their first pick
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on September 29, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
He doesn't become a free agent when he comes out of contract next season though. He becomes a free agent at the end of the 2016 season, so he would still need a trade or to go into the drafts if he went to leave at the end of next season.

That being said, I think Collingwood will trade him. They'd have to looking at his reasons for moving.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
I also think Collingwood will trade him

But, and this is a bad thing to say but still worth considering, a year is a long time for cancer. Not suggesting for one moment the Pies would delay a trade with this in mind, in fact it would make them trade quicker, but there has to be an element of good will. It is Brisbane's responsibility to put a fair trade up.

I believe neither Collingwood or Brisbane would take advantage of this
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on September 29, 2014, 04:03:04 PM
I believe neither Collingwood or Brisbane would take advantage of this
Yet they want someone like Hanley along with pick 4 ::)

Something like that would be a major advantage to the Pies, no way that would happen. I get Beams is an amazing player, but we're not giving Collingwood an elite player AND pick 4 in exchange for an elite player. Someone like Golby or Crisp along with pick 4 I think is a fair deal, especially with Lumumba going.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: shaker on September 29, 2014, 04:06:05 PM
Beams's dad is not out of the woods but he has had treatment and is in remission but can see why he does not want to wait another year think the Pies have to trade him otherwise the relationship between them will go downhill quickly
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 04:17:22 PM
I believe neither Collingwood or Brisbane would take advantage of this
Yet they want someone like Hanley along with pick 4 ::)

Something like that would be a major advantage to the Pies, no way that would happen. I get Beams is an amazing player, but we're not giving Collingwood an elite player AND pick 4 in exchange for an elite player. Someone like Golby or Crisp along with pick 4 I think is a fair deal, especially with Lumumba going.

Lions want pick 4, which is too cheap

Pies want 4 and Hanley, which is too expensive

This is how negotiations work. The result will be somewhere in the middle

bound to be a lion that doesn't need too much convincing to go to melbourne, just annoyed it wasn't last year and could've nabbed Tyson
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 04:22:36 PM
it's funny Pies are allowed to ask for overs but if Essendon do it we get laughed at ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 04:28:18 PM
it's funny Pies are allowed to ask for overs but if Essendon do it we get laughed at ::)

cos Collingwood haven't breached contract, or at least risked a legal battle
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 04:47:53 PM
it's funny Pies are allowed to ask for overs but if Essendon do it we get laughed at ::)

cos Collingwood haven't breached contract, or at least risked a legal battle

Also Essendon ask overs for every single player that ever comes or goes to the club
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
I believe neither Collingwood or Brisbane would take advantage of this
Yet they want someone like Hanley along with pick 4 ::)

Something like that would be a major advantage to the Pies, no way that would happen. I get Beams is an amazing player, but we're not giving Collingwood an elite player AND pick 4 in exchange for an elite player. Someone like Golby or Crisp along with pick 4 I think is a fair deal, especially with Lumumba going.

Lions want pick 4, which is too cheap

Pies want 4 and Hanley, which is too expensive

This is how negotiations work. The result will be somewhere in the middle

bound to be a lion that doesn't need too much convincing to go to melbourne, just annoyed it wasn't last year and could've nabbed Tyson
Think the end result may either be our first 2 picks or Pick 4 plus Golby/Lester.  As you say Oss both teams will negotiate outcome with Beams welfare main concern.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 04:52:31 PM
it's funny Pies are allowed to ask for overs but if Essendon do it we get laughed at ::)

cos Collingwood haven't breached contract, or at least risked a legal battle

Also Essendon ask overs for every single player that ever comes or goes to the club

i'd rather that then get ripped off every time  ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 04:57:59 PM
it's funny Pies are allowed to ask for overs but if Essendon do it we get laughed at ::)

cos Collingwood haven't breached contract, or at least risked a legal battle

Also Essendon ask overs for every single player that ever comes or goes to the club

i'd rather that then get ripped off every time  ::)

Well the result is every club that tries to deal w/ Essendon feels like they're trying to get ripped off, hence why people laugh at them
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 04:59:52 PM
Come on guys Do not hijack Brisbane Thread with Essendon crap.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
Don't think that Crisp or Golby will interest Collingwood as much as Brisbane's 2nd rounder
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on September 29, 2014, 05:27:36 PM
Don't think that Crisp or Golby will interest Collingwood as much as Brisbane's 2nd rounder

if we took Karnezis we'd take anyone
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on September 29, 2014, 05:38:01 PM
Don't think that Crisp or Golby will interest Collingwood as much as Brisbane's 2nd rounder

if we took Karnezis we'd take anyone

That was a swap for Jackson Paine though, two fringe medium forwards, not really the same situation
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on September 29, 2014, 05:38:19 PM
Don't think that Crisp or Golby will interest Collingwood as much as Brisbane's 2nd rounder
Yeh Golby is an iteresting one. Pies already have quite a few defenders who can push into the mids
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 29, 2014, 06:28:10 PM
Beams isn't contracted next season so if they keep him against his will, he can walk for nothing next season can't he?

Still will get compo which will be the pick after their first pick

He wont be a free agent, so no compensation I think
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 06:47:05 PM
Strikes is correct as he is not an unrestricted agent till 2016 so trade will need to be arranged if he plays next year.  he can walk to the preseason draft where he can put conditions on that only Brisbane can match and pies get nothing. Hence why Pies will be interested in a trade this year,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: T Dog on September 29, 2014, 06:51:56 PM
Hey Ringo....any thoughts on Weardon or Crisps' chances for games?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 07:22:40 PM
Wearden may get games. Had an interrupted season with injuries and when he had games in the NEAFL had some good performances and with a DPP may be worth a shot.  Crisp is a mid and got half a dozen games at the end of the season and performed solidly.  Return of Rich, Redden and possible arrival of Beams will prevent him from getting games unless injury strikes.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on September 29, 2014, 07:30:12 PM
isn't Crisp a good chance for DPP?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 07:35:08 PM
Do not think so KB - Played the majority of his 6 games in the midfield. Only the game against Adelaide he spent a fair bit down forward. Anyway can not see CD moving on 6 games.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on September 29, 2014, 07:37:18 PM
Wearden may get games. Had an interrupted season with injuries and when he had games in the NEAFL had some good performances and with a DPP may be worth a shot.  Crisp is a mid and got half a dozen games at the end of the season and performed solidly.  Return of Rich, Redden and possible arrival of Beams will prevent him from getting games unless injury strikes.
Didn't Wearden get delisted?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on September 29, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Need a holiday and stress relief - Wearden was de-listed by Brisbane and was the surprise de-listing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on September 29, 2014, 10:24:44 PM
Strikes is correct as he is not an unrestricted agent till 2016 so trade will need to be arranged if he plays next year.  he can walk to the preseason draft where he can put conditions on that only Brisbane can match and pies get nothing. Hence why Pies will be interested in a trade this year,

If Beams had told the Pies he wont be there next year regardless then they will make this trade happen. Like you said Ringo PSD is not where the Pies will want to go. Lions will have 105% cap space and will put a major price on his head. Therefor leaving Collingwood with absolutely nothing. Give them 4 and 24 or Golby and be done with it I reckon.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 09, 2014, 06:12:08 PM
clash jumper for 2015 is terrible

(http://i60.tinypic.com/vi7pg.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 09, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
clash jumper for 2015 is terrible

(http://i60.tinypic.com/vi7pg.jpg)
That's... not great.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2014, 06:17:49 PM
Not sure where you got this from KB as far as I am aware new clash guernsey was not scheduled to be unveiled until tomorrow.  Nothing on the club website as yet either.  Predominantly white though would not surprise as this years were similar
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 09, 2014, 06:19:45 PM
Too much white.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on November 09, 2014, 06:21:43 PM
I reckon it'd be better inverted. So have the T in white and the other bit in maroon so that the Lion in yellow pops more.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2014, 06:24:13 PM
Apologies KB aparrently the Telegraph have released early and yes this appears the clash guernsey.

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-clash-jumper-draws-on-fitzroy-history-for-inspiration/story-fni5f4q4-1227117398213

IT IS something old, something new and something borrowed -  with a hint of blue.

Brisbane's new clash jumper will be officially unveiled on Monday, with the Lions drawing on two glorious periods in the merged club's history as inspiration.

The  "Y" design on the front of the predominantly white strip pays homage to the Fitzroy jumper used from 1898-1905 when the club won four VFL flags.

Just as Richmond and Essendon have the sash across their jumpers, Collingwood has vertical stripes and Geelong has its trademark hoops, the "Y"has been an integral part of the Fitzroy fabric.

Brisbane used the "Y" design for its 2012 Hall of Fame jumper when the Lions smashed the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium before their inaugural Hall of Fame function.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 09, 2014, 06:25:59 PM
all good Ringo i got it off facebook 8)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 09, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
Agree very white though even with the maroon Y
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Sweetness on November 09, 2014, 06:35:20 PM
clash jumper for 2015 is terrible

(http://i60.tinypic.com/vi7pg.jpg)
That's... not great.

And people weren't happy with the Crows' clash guernsey....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 09, 2014, 06:58:47 PM
It's like teams are competing for the worst clash jersey this year
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 09, 2014, 07:54:49 PM
At least we have a clash jumper *cough* Richmond *cough*  ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on November 09, 2014, 07:55:34 PM
(http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/11/91040_6f0e3c6a9019020d795354703a99b846.png)

that was off big footy for an idea. would of been better imo
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 09, 2014, 07:57:54 PM
At least we have a clash jumper *cough* Richmond *cough*  ::)
We do? ??? ???

Also about Christo, bit harsh to judge when no one knows the full story.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 09, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
At least we have a clash jumper *cough* Richmond *cough*  ::)
We do? ??? ???

Also about Christo, bit harsh to judge when no one knows the full story.
What did you wear against port??
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 09, 2014, 08:06:14 PM
At least we have a clash jumper *cough* Richmond *cough*  ::)
We do? ??? ???

Also about Christo, bit harsh to judge when no one knows the full story.
What did you wear against port??
Our clash jumper...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on November 09, 2014, 08:13:41 PM
At least we have a clash jumper *cough* Richmond *cough*  ::)
We do? ??? ???

Also about Christo, bit harsh to judge when no one knows the full story.
What did you wear against port??
Our clash jumper...
I honestly thought that was the home jumper  :-X
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Jroo on November 09, 2014, 08:17:09 PM
At least we have a clash jumper *cough* Richmond *cough*  ::)
We do? ??? ???

Also about Christo, bit harsh to judge when no one knows the full story.
What did you wear against port??
Our clash jumper...
I honestly thought that was the home jumper  :-X
Haha, we were meant to wear our home jumper because the AFL told us to, but because we're nice we decided to wear our clash jumpers anyway.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: TomK on November 09, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Feeling a bit better about ours now aha
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mr.Craig on November 09, 2014, 11:15:08 PM
Putting the "clash" in clash jumper.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 10, 2014, 08:47:46 AM
As an interesting aside in this debate - Why do we need a clash jumper? Is it a case of the AFL getting more money as I can not really see any Guernseys we may clash with it at all?  Why does Collingwood not have a clash jumper yet other teams do?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 10, 2014, 10:05:48 AM
It looks a lot better with a black background haha

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1920109_854630067914634_7928351075157092196_n.jpg?oh=0c98671d7af2857815b0ecad9e698ba9&oe=551C9323&__gda__=1423043933_5f880c17ba0900b8f5af4b5d3b062222)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 10, 2014, 10:41:43 AM
Agree does not look as bad with a darker back ground. Consensus amongst Lions supporters is it is much better than previous one.  For information and this is from the FAQ

WHY IS THE CLASH JUMPER PREDOMINANTLY WHITE?
The AFL stipulates that every Club's clash jumper be made up mostly of the colour white.
and apparently the stipulation is 60% white.

We will now own the Fitzroy Y for our clash jumper but unfortunately because of the 60% can not incorporate any Bears tradition. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on November 10, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
As an interesting aside in this debate - Why do we need a clash jumper? Is it a case of the AFL getting more money as I can not really see any Guernseys we may clash with it at all?  Why does Collingwood not have a clash jumper yet other teams do?

Collingwood does have a clash (black on white, not white on black) --> trust me it looks different

But we shouldn't need clash jumpers at all. Players know who they are kicking too
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on November 10, 2014, 11:17:22 AM
As an interesting aside in this debate - Why do we need a clash jumper? Is it a case of the AFL getting more money as I can not really see any Guernseys we may clash with it at all?  Why does Collingwood not have a clash jumper yet other teams do?

Collingwood does have a clash (black on white, not white on black) --> trust me it looks different

But we shouldn't need clash jumpers at all. Players know who they are kicking too
Is it more for the fans to be able to tell teams apart? I agree, players will know who they're kicking too, and this is the only valid reason I can really think of.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 10, 2014, 11:34:12 AM
Apparently we only use the clash jumper when away to Adelaide, Melbourne and Gold Coast. Do not think there are really clashed there with our away strip but maybe the Suns with the red may be.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on November 10, 2014, 10:14:12 PM
Pretty sure we'll use fitzroy against the demons ringo. Facebook page said Bulldogs and Suns but I can see the Crows being added to that list.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on November 11, 2014, 08:40:47 AM
Just quoted from the press report Strikes. Really do not see our away strip (Fizroy Red) clashes with anyone apart from Suns and maybe Crows. Dogs are predominantly Blue with the red stripe but suppose it is up to AFL to dictate.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on November 11, 2014, 07:20:58 PM
Just quoted from the press report Strikes. Really do not see our away strip (Fizroy Red) clashes with anyone apart from Suns and maybe Crows. Dogs are predominantly Blue with the red stripe but suppose it is up to AFL to dictate.

If anything it is closer to the dogs colour than the Fitzroy Guernsey
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 11, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
Clash Jumpers are just a dumb concept in general when all the normal jerseys look good. Should be only used for shower like Collingwood vs Geelong
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on December 17, 2014, 08:00:23 PM
Couple of interesting facts to come out of tonights AGM

As previously advised Ross Thornton will join the Board.

Flight Centre will be coming on board as another sponsor.

Leppa aiming for double digit wins want an improvement on last years 7 wins.

Eddie is on board with promotion of first game and aiming for a crowd of 30k+ to start the year.

membership currently up 3k on last year and corporate sales also up.

And the big one.

Greg Swann also says plenty of room left in @brisbanelions salary cap. So plenty in reserve to gain that Key forward if need be. Could Tom Hawkins be a possibility being on the FA list? Would be handy for a season or 2 while Close and Freeman develop further.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Bully on December 17, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
Couple of interesting facts to come out of tonights AGM

As previously advised Ross Thornton will join the Board.

Flight Centre will be coming on board as another sponsor.

Leppa aiming for double digit wins want an improvement on last years 7 wins.

Eddie is on board with promotion of first game and aiming for a crowd of 30k+ to start the year.

membership currently up 3k on last year and corporate sales also up.

And the big one.

Greg Swann also says plenty of room left in @brisbanelions salary cap. So plenty in reserve to gain that Key forward if need be. Could Tom Hawkins be a possibility being on the FA list? Would be handy for a season or 2 while Close and Freeman develop further.

That's what Brisbane is lacking at the moment, Hawkins would make a huge difference to your structure. Everything else is ticking over beautifully, the recruiting and trading has been first class and the age profile is heading into a sweet spot. Next year may not be the year but beyond that I have high hopes for Brisbane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on December 17, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
I can see us having a play at Hawkins, but I don't really see it coming off  :-\. Would really like it though, Hawkins would be awesome.

Maybe we could have a play at Grant? Idk. Don't really need him though. How long is left on Tippetts contract? Maybe we could make a play on him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on January 21, 2015, 01:14:43 PM
What do you guys think about the ruck situation at Brisbane with Leuy coming back into the side, but Martin being in the best form of his career at the end of last season?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on January 21, 2015, 01:24:03 PM
What do you guys think about the ruck situation at Brisbane with Leuy coming back into the side, but Martin being in the best form of his career at the end of last season?
Leuey is still our number 1 ruck, so if he's fit, he'll be rucking quite a bit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on January 21, 2015, 01:30:11 PM
What do you guys think about the ruck situation at Brisbane with Leuy coming back into the side, but Martin being in the best form of his career at the end of last season?
Leuey is still our number 1 ruck, so if he's fit, he'll be rucking quite a bit.
This is really difficult to say at this point in time. Both will play and be named for round 1. Luey can take a strong mark and a fairly accurate kick for goal whereas Martin with his work around the ground becomes another mid. How Leppa  uses both will be the issue and do not think we will get an insight in the NAB cup either.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on January 21, 2015, 01:55:39 PM
I have stefan martins mark against geelong in my head telling me he will work in the forward lines. It's going to be a ripper combination
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 23, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Saw that Nick Robertson went in for surgery. What was that for lads?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 23, 2015, 11:43:22 AM
Sorry Rico Been away and have not heard of this.  Will probably know tomorrow but was definitely not on our injury list last week.  So suspect may have copped an injury in NEAFL if true.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on March 23, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
to fix up his sinuses
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on March 25, 2015, 09:10:01 PM
Mayes has changed a heap leading into this season

(http://i.imgur.com/cIlc49w.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on March 25, 2015, 09:29:22 PM
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on March 30, 2015, 11:32:57 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-29/aishs-round-16-dday

Rockliff
Quote
“If you get to round 15 or 16 and he hasn't signed, you'd probably think he'll leave”

least he's honest about it. hopefully the kid signs on
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on March 30, 2015, 11:37:17 AM
I love Rocky's honesty in the media, just speaks his mind
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on March 30, 2015, 11:37:19 AM
Why would he leave? I reckon the Lions are closer to building a premiership side than the Crows?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Bill Manspeaker on March 30, 2015, 11:40:54 AM
agreed ele, I think they're closer as well. home sickness might be an issue though
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on March 30, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
I love Rocky's honesty in the media, just speaks his mind
Yeah, I like it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on March 30, 2015, 12:32:23 PM
Rocky has always spoken his mind. Aish no doubt will be weighing up the offers and what is best for him in the long term.  Aish had a good relationship with Sam Mayes who signed last year so I am expecting he will stay but can not be certain until contract is signed,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on March 30, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
Why would he leave? I reckon the Lions are closer to building a premiership side than the Crows?

I wouldn't discount the possibility of him going to a Melbourne side either tbh... Will more than likely sign with the Lions or go home, but I think there's a chance...
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: JBs-Hawks on March 30, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
Get him to the Dees, Good to see Aish running around in red socks again!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Mac on March 30, 2015, 04:27:57 PM
You can have Toumpas
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on March 30, 2015, 04:37:22 PM
Liam Pickering is being his typical money hungry self
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ziplock on March 30, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
Why would he leave? I reckon the Lions are closer to building a premiership side than the Crows?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 01, 2015, 11:21:32 AM
Hanley update

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-01/hip-hip-hooray

PEARCE Hanleyhas taken the first tentative steps towards his long rehabilitation from hip surgery.

The classy Brisbane Lions midfielder jumped on the AlterG (anti-gravity) treadmill on Monday to complete his first run since both hips were operated on eight weeks ago.

Hanley is not expected to see action until the second half of the season, but things could have been so much worse.

The 26-year-old was having a terrific pre-season and initially felt the pain in one hip in the lead-up to Christmas.

After the players' break, he returned to find the pain worse.

Once he got it checked out and decided to have the operation, what happened next shocked the Irishman.

"I didn't know what was wrong to be honest," Hanley told AFL.com.au.

"My back was pretty tight before Christmas, so I just thought my hips were out of whack and something that could be easily fixed.

"But once we got scanned, and to find out the severity of it, and that I had to get both hips done, it was a shock to the system.

"It wasn't that bad at the start, they said I was getting some bone shaved off and tidy up the cartilage and give it a clean-out.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 02, 2015, 08:32:01 AM
Christensen, Beams and Robbo will all play their first match in Lions colours this week, while Jaden McGrath will make his debut :D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 02, 2015, 08:50:42 AM
Wonder who won't make the squad with McGrath debuting though...could be one of Beams, Mayes, or Bewick perhaps? I'd prefer all of them over McGrath tbh
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 02, 2015, 09:15:15 AM
Will probably depend on how tall Leppa wants to go.  McGrath is another small at only 180cm.  If leppa wants to go small maybe Staker that misses but if he wants to retain talls then maybe Beams (182), Bewick (184) or Mayes (187cm).  Will be vying for the Harwood spot imo. Mayes imo was the least impressive in the NAB cup so he may be the one.

Will await team with interest to see who gets the nod out of Lester or Paparone to take Patfulls position, how we setup with Rich of HB or wing,

At least the weather forecast is lookin a little better now with only showers forecast.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 02, 2015, 07:14:16 PM
Mayes has vest written over him looking at the teams named, So Close misses out as well as Staker.  We are really going small with only Berger and mcStay up front.  trust we do not regret it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 03, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
I think it's important that Mayes starts. Our forward line could use him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: BB67th on April 03, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
What do we reckon about McGrath's JS?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 03, 2015, 10:46:57 AM
I read from Leppas press conference it was his position to lose. He demanded inclusion and has lept in front of quite a few,  I have put him into my SC side as a replacement for Daniel.  So hopefully can get a few price rises out of him before Daniel returns.

Only real doubt I see as I said above we maybe too small but Rocky in an interview said this was basically due the predicted weather so may be a smart move.

At least my members seat is under cover.

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 04, 2015, 08:55:05 PM
Hopefully Rocky isn't out for to long, but Close or Staker needs to come in. We need a forward target, Mayes isn't a KPP and Stef can't catch the ball to save his life.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 04, 2015, 09:04:19 PM
Pathetic for the majority of that game. Needed a Staker or Close as a forward target tonight I reckon.

Hopefully Rocky is alright.

Bundy, Robbo, Beams all looked good in first proper game for us. Merrett was really good I thought. Leuey showed why he is our #1 ruck. Glad to have Rich back, was great.

Need to put in a 4 quarter performance next week or North will absolutely belt us.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 04, 2015, 10:13:29 PM
Agree 100% GL.

We should have been 4 goals up early with the early pressure we exerted in 1st quarter,

Fell back into old habits of trying one to many handpasses to get us out of trouble and that gave Pies the momentum in 2nd and 3rd quarters. Simple marks being dropped and from players you would least expect.   

A lot of the sloppy play was due to the very high humidity and rain that started falling in the final quarter,

I think the martin/berger combo will only grow.  martin instigated a couple of a forward thrusts in the last quarter.

just hope leppa maintains the faith and does not make too many changes although injury to Rocky may force his hands.  Would like to see someone else come in rather than put Rich in the centre.  He showed tonight what he offers of HB.  Will get tagged if he goes to midfield.

mcgrath looks a likely lad and went ok for first game and needs to follow it up next week.

Paparone was a revelation in defence.

Bewick will have a nomination for mark of the round, but he was also a little disappointing tonight.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 04, 2015, 11:54:54 PM
Hopefully it's a clean break for rocky. would be looking at 2-4 weeks. If the lung is punctured double it easily
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on April 05, 2015, 05:59:28 AM
Hope Rockliff is ok guys.

Think the Pies were lucky to get Brisbane on an off day, honestly felt they'd win this one

See you next time
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 05, 2015, 10:07:16 AM
Broken ribs, punctured lung. Out for up to six weeks.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-05/ribs-fear-for-rockliff

Hopefully he has a good recovery and can come back 100% to give us some form leading into the bye.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Cambo on April 07, 2015, 02:45:52 PM
Hope Rockliff is ok guys.

Think the Pies were lucky to get Brisbane on an off day, honestly felt they'd win this one

See you next time

Your being a bit too kind.  Brisbane are average at best  ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 07, 2015, 02:54:08 PM
Hope Rockliff is ok guys.

Think the Pies were lucky to get Brisbane on an off day, honestly felt they'd win this one

See you next time

Your being a bit too kind.  Brisbane are average at best  ;D

so are the Pies
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 13, 2015, 07:54:36 AM
Think a few changes need to be made next week

We really need a big experienced body in the forward line, that isn't the resting ruckman. Staker has gotta come in if fit IMO. Close will probably be out for him I guess, depending on how bad his injury is. Lester so far isn't working as a defender, and I don't think it ever will. With the injuries to Rocky and Hanley, either get him in the guts, or drop him. I don't care how good Martin is once the ball hits the ground, Leuey needs more time in the ruck. Otherwise, there is no point playing him. Play Leuey ruck and Martin ruck rover for all I care, but he is a better ruck than Martin and we need to either utilise that or give someone else a go. Clarke is struggling so far, so hopefully we get Merrett back this week. Mayes is struggling. He seemed so promising in his first season, but has gone downhill since then. Might be best if he's dropped to the NEAFL to find some form. Don't think Paparone will work as a defender either. Played well last year on a wing I think? Either get him back there or bring in someone like Cutler for him. Beams needs help from our other mids.

On the positive side, O'Brien was really good. Had 7 tackles, which was the equal highest for us even though he came on in the 2nd quarter. Redden was good, as was Adcock. I must admit, in the NAB I thought Robinson wasn't gonna work out, but he's seemed pretty good thus far. Christensen has been great. Taylor has been really good as well.

Overall I'd like to see;
OUT - Close (if not fit), Lester, Paparone, Mayes
IN - Staker, Merrett, Gardiner, Cutler
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 13, 2015, 08:51:46 AM
What's with Aish getting dropped?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 13, 2015, 10:21:42 AM
What's with Aish getting dropped?
He was shower in round 1
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 13, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
That was in the top 3 for worst peformances I've seen. zero effort
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 13, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
Agree 100% GL and Nick Robertson on yesterdays performance does not to be dropped. Still trying to work out Richs rea position He seemed to lift us when he went back to HB so not sure but think hb is proving his better position,

Not sure where Gardiner is fitness and injury wise but we also need him back in the back line.  We were really outgunned there without Sauce and hopefully back this week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: LF on April 13, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
Damn Close rupturing his ACL is terrible for you guys
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 13, 2015, 04:44:54 PM
Article for those who want to read it

http://www.lions.com.au/news/2015-04-13/injury-update-close

Wish him all the best with his recovery. Not what he would've wanted after showing some good signs last year.

Staker would have to come in to the side now you'd think.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 13, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
Also, Hammelmann to be upgraded? Hope so.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 14, 2015, 01:46:00 PM
Will be interesting to see how many changes are made after Zorko blasted his team mates.

Would like to know who he pointed out
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 14, 2015, 02:13:25 PM
Zorko alos blasted himself so was giving a general spray well deserved spray though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 19, 2015, 12:05:53 AM
Can't see where we will kick a winning score at the moment. The thought of a winless season is embarrassing
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 19, 2015, 08:50:17 AM
Don't despair Strikes,  Some encouraging signs last night but not a lot. A few combinations finally starting to click Beams and Christo seem to be getting their hands on ut more but need to improve the disposal efficiency.

Would be surprised if our D/e last night exceeded 50% overall. Our skills were terrible last night on 3 occasions 2 players spoiled each other resulting in Tigers Goals. There did not appear to be any calling.  We seem to also be too handball happy trying to get out of defence and that probably accounted for at least 8 of Richmond goals.

Andrews may be OK but he needs more development and body strength.  Also won a few contests in the ruck when relieving Maric.  Staker is working his way back and if persevered with may help McStay down front. McGuane kicked 2 in NEAFL but I do not consider him a viable option. Freeman is still 4 weeks away.

Was really disappointed with our running last night as we did not appear to be able to keep with opponents.  Not sure whether fitness an issue or not but something definitely lacking last night.

Also remember we have Hanley, Rocky and Merrett missing from the Team and that is a reasonable 3 in anyones language.

It is a case of building for next year atm in my opinion but will be interesting to see how we match up against the Eagles next week and this will give an indication where we are really at. All three teams we have played were touted as top 8 sides,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 20, 2015, 01:03:26 PM
Just read on Facebook that Rocky may play this week with protective padding around his chest.

I dunno if that's a good idea tbh. Has only missed 2 weeks so far. Will see if there's a better source later today.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on April 20, 2015, 01:06:51 PM
Just read on Facebook that Rocky may play this week with protective padding around his chest.

I dunno if that's a good idea tbh. Has only missed 2 weeks so far. Will see if there's a better source later today.

Not a great idea in my opinion. I know its only 3 rounds in, but it doesn't look like Brisbane will be playing finals. Surely you need to be cautious with your best player and captain. Gotta think about the next 5 years, not just next week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 20, 2015, 01:08:29 PM
Just read on Facebook that Rocky may play this week with protective padding around his chest.

I dunno if that's a good idea tbh. Has only missed 2 weeks so far. Will see if there's a better source later today.

Not a great idea in my opinion. I know its only 3 rounds in, but it doesn't look like Brisbane will be playing finals. Surely you need to be cautious with your best player and captain. Gotta think about the next 5 years, not just next week.

This. Plus if Rocky gets crunched, the damage will be seeeeveeeereeee. Chill Rocky, chill :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 20, 2015, 01:12:37 PM
From Rich's presser (no video available yet)

(http://i.gyazo.com/598f6837eb38f97a75ee63682e9c362a.png)

So think Rocky will probably miss this week
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 20, 2015, 01:14:15 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-20/rockliff-ready-to-rock
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 20, 2015, 03:11:57 PM
what do you guys think about trading Luey to Carlton for there likely top 4 pick

would prefer a forward but they cant afford to lose any so just draft one instead
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: ossie85 on April 20, 2015, 04:08:55 PM
what do you guys think about trading Luey to Carlton for there likely top 4 pick

would prefer a forward but they cant afford to lose any so just draft one instead

I can't see a mature age player not in the 18th ranked best 22 going for a top 4 pick
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on April 20, 2015, 04:11:13 PM
Yeah ruckmen like that go in the 15-20 pick bracket
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 20, 2015, 04:11:35 PM
what do you guys think about trading Luey to Carlton for there likely top 4 pick

would prefer a forward but they cant afford to lose any so just draft one instead

I can't see a mature age player not in the 18th ranked best 22 going for a top 4 pick
What about a straight swap, Yarran for Leue??
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 20, 2015, 04:13:36 PM
you could add a sweetener to Luey
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Mac on April 20, 2015, 04:14:18 PM
what do you guys think about trading Luey to Carlton for there likely top 4 pick

would prefer a forward but they cant afford to lose any so just draft one instead

He is a free agent anyway?

No one is trading picks for him
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 20, 2015, 04:18:52 PM
Is Carlton chasing Aish? Could be Aish and Leue for Yarran and a pick
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 20, 2015, 04:20:18 PM
Is Carlton chasing Aish? Could be Aish and Leue for Yarran and a pick

i did hear that they are chasing Aish

but would need to be a good pick with Yarran
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 20, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
Is Carlton chasing Aish? Could be Aish and Leue for Yarran and a pick

i did hear that they are chasing Aish

but would need to be a good pick with Yarran
Blues might have had emough of Yarran
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 20, 2015, 04:26:45 PM
We do not want him have enough smalls on our list.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 20, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
I rate Leuey as a better ruck than Martin so would prefer if we kept him at Brisbane
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 20, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
Reckon we should get a deal going with Adelaide and Sydney to somehow get tippett
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 20, 2015, 06:37:28 PM
Haha super unlikely imo
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 20, 2015, 06:37:56 PM
Agree with that 1 Strikes. 3 way deal may be worked with Aish to Adelaide, Tippett to Brisbane and ? to Swans. Are Swans still banned from trading though?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 20, 2015, 06:39:37 PM
Agree with that 1 Strikes. 3 way deal may be worked with Aish to Adelaide, Tippett to Brisbane and ? to Swans. Are Swans still banned from trading though?

nope  can trade
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on April 20, 2015, 06:40:43 PM
They can trade, but I doubt Tippett would be on the table
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 20, 2015, 07:02:21 PM
Would Tippet really move again though?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 20, 2015, 07:03:19 PM
Would Tippet really move again though?

once a sell out always a sell out
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 20, 2015, 07:04:56 PM
Would Tippet really move again though?

once a sell out always a sell out

Hiiiiighly unlikely. Id put a lot of  money on him finishing his career as a Swan haha
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on April 20, 2015, 07:45:40 PM
Would Tippet really move again though?

once a sell out always a sell out

Hiiiiighly unlikely. Id put a lot of  money on him finishing his career as a Swan haha

He's already being overpaid for what he's worth, for Brisbane to get him would take a huge chunk out of their salary cap for one player when they need a lot more than 1 to improve.

Plus it would be hard to convince someone to move from playing September football into a team that isn't atm
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Spite on April 20, 2015, 10:41:09 PM
Every thing I've read so far is seemingly saying Aish wants to play with a big club and three names in today's paper were Pies, blues and Dees. I don't think he's going to go back to adelaide folks.

White or Gault could be on the table? (And of course first round draft pick)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 20, 2015, 10:47:20 PM
Tipo no but maybe Reid
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 21, 2015, 06:30:18 AM
sydney losing extra cap space aren't they ?

Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 21, 2015, 07:35:29 AM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 21, 2015, 10:45:09 AM
Yeah I can see Reid to Brissie but not Tip.

As for Aish, I have this weird feeling he will be a Tiger at years end.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Toga on April 21, 2015, 12:02:42 PM
Have been saying it for a while now that I think Aish is more likely to go to a big Melbourne club than Port or Adelaide.

As for Aish, I have this weird feeling he will be a Tiger at years end.

Would not mind at all :o 8)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: GoLions on April 21, 2015, 03:34:44 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2015-04-21/three-new-injuries

McGrath 8-12 weeks
Mayes at least 2 weeks
C Beams 1-2 weeks

This is getting ridiculous. Cutler should come in. Maybe ZOB too. Not sure who the third would be. Leuey perhaps.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 21, 2015, 05:52:05 PM
Who is worse off, The Lions or Eagles??
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 21, 2015, 06:01:37 PM
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2015-04-21/three-new-injuries

McGrath 8-12 weeks
Mayes at least 2 weeks
C Beams 1-2 weeks

This is getting ridiculous. Cutler should come in. Maybe ZOB too. Not sure who the third would be. Leuey perhaps.
Cutler/Lester for Beams
ZOB/Nic Robertson for Mayes
Hammelman/Golby for McGrath

Full List
Cian Hanley (Knee) - Season
Jonathan Freeman (Glute) - 3-4 weeks
Ryan Harwood (Groins) - Test
Pearce Hanley (Hip) - 8 weeks
Trent West (Knee) - 3 weeks
Tom Rockliff (Ribs) - Test
Jackson Paine (Shoulder) - Test
Archie Smith (Knee) - 4-5 weeks
Michael Close (Knee) - Season
Dan Merrett (Hamstring) - 1 week
Jaden McGrath (Foot) - 8-12 weeks
Sam Mayes (Foot) - 1-2 weeks
Claye Beams (Toe) - 1-2 weeks

Do not think we should risk Rocky even with our list of injuries.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 21, 2015, 08:28:40 PM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 21, 2015, 10:46:56 PM
sydney losing extra cap space aren't they ?
yes we are but we wont chase Aish as we have a couple of mids coming in this year from the draft as well.

Mills and Dunkleys kid
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 22, 2015, 08:32:21 AM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Sorry... why would they want anyone from Adelaide when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchell sitting in the 2s*
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 22, 2015, 01:17:29 PM
Tweet from Brisbane Lions

risbane Lions ‏@brisbanelions 1m1 minute ago

EXCLUSIVE: All ladders have been removed from Gabba to prevent players walking under them resulting in freak injuries

(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag128/therings1/Gabba%20Ladders_zpsdujonrbt.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 22, 2015, 01:18:39 PM
or is it because Brissie won't be climbing any ladders anytime soon :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 22, 2015, 01:21:08 PM
or is it because Brissie won't be climbing any ladders anytime soon :P

Either works well :P

I'm surprised the Gabba only had one ladder in the whole stadium though. I call BS tbh.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Capper on April 22, 2015, 01:23:19 PM
Its because they dont get off their high horse once they are on it
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 22, 2015, 05:52:17 PM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Sorry... why would they want anyone from Adelaide when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchell sitting in the 2s*

Because players are money hungry and will leave, like tippett ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on April 22, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Sorry... why would they want anyone from Adelaide when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchell sitting in the 2s*

Because players are money hungry and will leave, like tippett ;)

Well then if players are looking for more money Sydney won't be looking for players anyway? Very much doubt they'll be anywhere near the Aish deal.

Aren't all of Aish's ties to SA anyway. Both of those clubs will be willing to do one way trades anyway.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 22, 2015, 06:01:29 PM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Sorry... why would they want anyone from Adelaide when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchell sitting in the 2s*

Because players are money hungry and will leave, like tippett ;)

Well then if players are looking for more money Sydney won't be looking for players anyway? Very much doubt they'll be anywhere near the Aish deal.

Aren't all of Aish's ties to SA anyway. Both of those clubs will be willing to do one way trades anyway.
But Brisbane will be looking for a key  forawrd and can not see Adelaide giving up Tex or Lynch so a three way trade needs to be negotiated.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on April 22, 2015, 06:09:02 PM
Well then do a straight trade with another club? In the end though Aish and his management will dictate a large amount of the trade, a key forward may well be off the table
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 22, 2015, 07:12:26 PM
3AW Sports Today ‏@3AWSportsToday  20m20 minutes ago
Tom Rockliff: 'My final test will be on Saturday to see how much impact my ribs can take. We have a guard made up as well'
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 22, 2015, 07:34:20 PM
I'm sorry, I get that Brissie want their best ball-winner and captain back, but why the urgency/desperation :s
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 22, 2015, 07:41:22 PM
I'm sorry, I get that Brissie want their best ball-winner and captain back, but why the urgency/desperation :s
My thoughts exactly - Do we risk further damage to our best player for short term benefits rather than looking long term. Personally I do not think he will play this week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 22, 2015, 07:45:10 PM
it's probably Rocky being so urgent more so then Brissy
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 22, 2015, 07:54:14 PM
it's probably Rocky being so urgent more so then Brissy
Yeah, this wouldn't surprise.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 22, 2015, 09:45:41 PM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Sorry... why would they want anyone from Adelaide when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchell sitting in the 2s*

Because players are money hungry and will leave, like tippett ;)

Well then if players are looking for more money Sydney won't be looking for players anyway? Very much doubt they'll be anywhere near the Aish deal.

Aren't all of Aish's ties to SA anyway. Both of those clubs will be willing to do one way trades anyway.

geez....
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 22, 2015, 09:46:21 PM
Rocky wanting Brownlow votes? :p
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: quinny88 on April 22, 2015, 10:35:31 PM
How does the pecking order go amongst Brisbanes stack of midfielders? Obviously the new recruits and Captain will stay put but in what order would you see the likes of Rich, Hanley, Redden etc. Gonna have to give one of these sort of names up to get in a real gun big forward
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 23, 2015, 06:26:17 AM
Best chance is free agency, can't see the club trading one of the older midfielders
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 23, 2015, 08:07:30 AM
How does the pecking order go amongst Brisbanes stack of midfielders? Obviously the new recruits and Captain will stay put but in what order would you see the likes of Rich, Hanley, Redden etc. Gonna have to give one of these sort of names up to get in a real gun big forward

I will have a go for you Quinny but a bit hard.  Bear in mind some will play HB and HF as well but as I see it this would be my order>

Rocky (c)
Rich (vc)
Zorko (vc)
Beams
Redden
Hanley
Christensen
Aish
Mitch Robinson
O"Brien
Nick Robertson
Dawson
Clayton
Hammelman

Adcock, Bewick, Mayes and Taylor also run through mids at times

Personally think we could have done with out recruiting Robinson as it pushes youngsters down the list but just my opinion.

With Rocky agree it is more Rocky wanting to get back on the field rather than Brisbane wanting him. 

On a bright note Hanley is slightly ahead of schedule and starting to do heavy conditioning.  Still looking at the byes though.


Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ricochet on April 23, 2015, 08:25:41 AM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Sorry... why would they want anyone from Adelaide when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchell sitting in the 2s*

Because players are money hungry and will leave, like tippett ;)

Well then if players are looking for more money Sydney won't be looking for players anyway? Very much doubt they'll be anywhere near the Aish deal.

Aren't all of Aish's ties to SA anyway. Both of those clubs will be willing to do one way trades anyway.
But Brisbane will be looking for a key  forawrd and can not see Adelaide giving up Tex or Lynch so a three way trade needs to be negotiated.
Jenkins maybe?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: powersuperkents on April 25, 2015, 10:17:38 AM
Why would Sydney chase Aish when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchwll sitting in the 2s

They wouldn't get aish. Three way trade
Sorry... why would they want anyone from Adelaide when they have young guns like Tommy Mitchell sitting in the 2s*

Because players are money hungry and will leave, like tippett ;)

Well then if players are looking for more money Sydney won't be looking for players anyway? Very much doubt they'll be anywhere near the Aish deal.

Aren't all of Aish's ties to SA anyway. Both of those clubs will be willing to do one way trades anyway.
But Brisbane will be looking for a key  forawrd and can not see Adelaide giving up Tex or Lynch so a three way trade needs to be negotiated.
Jenkins maybe?
Would be really happy with this SC wise. Jenkins can't perform with Tex & Lynch present, if he was the sole option up forward for the Lions I could see him really having an impact (assuming that Brisbane improve)
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 25, 2015, 10:24:10 AM
Reports in todays press indicate we may be interested in Lachie Henderson, Charlie Dixon or Ty Vickery who are all of contract, Jenkins would also be a valuable addition.

We are also rumoured to be ready to pounce on Alex Rance to shore up our defence with Sauce and Goose nearing end and Clarke and Gardiner still developing,  Leepa may be the key to secure Rance.

We have room in our Salary Cap for both a key forward and Rance.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-poised-to-target-richmond-defender-alex-rance-with-lions-coach-justin-leppitsch-key-to-securing-prized-defender/story-fnia6oop-1227319346520
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on April 25, 2015, 02:34:48 PM
Yeah I reckon any of Dixon, Henderson, Jenkins or Rance would be great pickups for Brisbane. Vickery not so much.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 25, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
We better not get Vickery. He's a massive potato on a good day.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Nige on April 25, 2015, 03:06:38 PM
We better not get Vickery. He's a massive potato on a good day.
Was McGuane not enough charity from us for you guys?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nrich102 on April 25, 2015, 03:07:18 PM
We better not get Vickery. He's a massive potato on a good day.
Was McGuane not enough charity from us for you guys?
>:(
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Gigantor on April 26, 2015, 08:55:29 AM
We better not get Vickery. He's a massive potato on a good day.
Was McGuane not enough charity from us for you guys?
>:(
Haha that emoji paints a thousand words!
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: nas on April 26, 2015, 09:54:26 AM
Aish (IF) he goes back to SA, everyone seems to assume the Crows, but remember our CEO (Thomas) is mates with his old man, so could be a possibility joining the Power. Polec was an example where a lot of people assumed Crows.

So Butcher is the trade.  :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: powersuperkents on April 26, 2015, 11:48:34 AM
Aish (IF) he goes back to SA, everyone seems to assume the Crows, but remember our CEO (Thomas) is mates with his old man, so could be a possibility joining the Power. Polec was an example where a lot of people assumed Crows.

So Butcher is the trade.  :P
Crows fans seem to dismiss this idea. They say because Aish is from Norwood (most of his family is Norwood 'royalty') some SANFL rivalry with Port's, once original now, affiliate club will deter him. Personally, I think if he had to choose between the two, there would be more opportunities in the Crows midfield, but he wouldn't be able to overlook the opportunity to play with one of the league's best.  :P

Don't forget, with the Crows there is always the prospect of Aish <-> Dangerfield hahaha. Far-fetched & fanciful (because Dangerfield wants to return to Victoria, assuming he does end up leaving) but the Lion's could make the play - I know I would.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: strikes91 on April 26, 2015, 04:37:51 PM
I'm not going again until hanley is back. No one can kick a ball
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 26, 2015, 04:43:56 PM
I'm not going again until hanley is back. No one can kick a ball
+ 1 Strikes  Too handball happy.  Even Beams and Rich 2 of our most reliable kicks had shocking kicks to opposition players as well today. Hope they find some confidence soon.  This Kicking sideways/backwards and handballing is driving me nuts atm.  It is football drive the football forward which is what we should have been doing when we had the wind.
We seem to have forgotten how to dribble kick forawrd past an opponent and regather.  On 4 occasions I counted we kicked backward or handballed when a dribble and regather was the obvious play.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Spite on April 26, 2015, 04:44:39 PM
You can have Jesse White. Not for Aish, you can just have him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 27, 2015, 03:09:33 PM
Michael Whiting ‏@AFL_mikewhiting  32m32 minutes ago
Daniel Merrett will miss Saturday's QClash against Gold Coast as his hamstring injury lingers. Ensures Lions backline remains VERY young
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Pkbaldy on April 27, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
Aish is struggling to be worth more than a 4th Rounder. Nearly everyone from that draft year (That's played in these first 4 weeks) are showing mass improvement. Just seems Aish has been struck hard by the 2nd year blues.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on April 27, 2015, 04:26:28 PM
Aish is struggling to be worth more than a 4th Rounder. Nearly everyone from that draft year (That's played in these first 4 weeks) are showing mass improvement. Just seems Aish has been struck hard by the 2nd year blues.

It's possible he is mate, i think at his age and his contract situation with the club openly talking about what they think will happen may be a bit much for him to handle, he could well rightly or wrongly be feeling like a bit of an outsider at the minute up there which may be affecting his onfield performances.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 27, 2015, 04:42:25 PM
Really hesitated before posting this and have cogitated for 24hrs.

Yesterday was the most disappointed I have been with the Lions in the past 15 years. It was not the fact that we were beaten but the fact that that there does not appear to be any direction on the field and players do not appear to be playing for each other.  I witnessed the a situation which should never occur on the football field with a player arguing with Captain. Even though the player involved is in the Leadership Group there should be open dissent on the field.

We were well beaten but that is no excuse for the total disrespect the players had for the fans retreating virtually straight away from the field to the dressing room.  This in contrast to the Eagles players who spent a considerable amount of time on the field kicking footballs into the crowd and talking with fans.  Well done Eagles.

Regarding Aish his form has been below par and as grazz rightly says it may because his contract negotiations are being played out in the press and for a 19 year old (Aish does not turn 20 till November) may be a bit much to handle. He is wanted by the club but we also respect any move is his decision.

Press are rightly calling this weeks game against the Suns as the Qtrash rather than Qclash.

I still have faith in the club though and you will not see me desert them and that does not stop me feel disappointment though,
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Grazz on April 27, 2015, 05:02:04 PM
Was a bad weekend for both of us mate im feeling alot of what you're feeling also.
Agree at 19 it would be weighing on him for sure, i imagine myself at 19 i would of struggled dealing with it would be hard.
 
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Big Mac on April 27, 2015, 05:53:56 PM
What happened with the player/captain incident?
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: Ringo on April 27, 2015, 06:05:26 PM
What happened with the player/captain incident?
No further comment on this as it was an observation I made as it happened near where i was seated. Will probably be dealt with in the Leadership group meeting.
Title: Re: Brisbane Discussion
Post by: elephants on April 27, 2015, 06:11:35 PM
What happened with the player/captain incident?
No further comment on this as it was an observation I made as it happened near where i was seated. Will probably be dealt with in the Leadership group meeting.

Which players were involved man??