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Title: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on May 22, 2013, 11:25:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ99BuhCqug

Cleveland Orlando and Washington had the chance to win the number 1 pick
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2013, 12:22:05 PM
go Cavs,

would Lebron to go back, with that sqaud he would be invicible.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on May 22, 2013, 02:55:37 PM
Weak draft class so not sure that the number 1 pick is going to dominate.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2013, 03:00:27 PM
Weak draft class so not sure that the number 1 pick is going to dominate.

yeah not super strong. The best player avilable is a SG and with waiters the cavs dont really need him and it would push waiters to 6th man. Or they could go with a centre carrying an ACL.

I wish they had the 2014 number 1 pick I would I give up all thier picks this year for andrew wiggins.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on May 22, 2013, 03:25:01 PM
Watch out for Kobe's comeback, he is gunna crack seem skulls.  :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 22, 2013, 03:30:24 PM
Weak draft class so not sure that the number 1 pick is going to dominate.

yeah not super strong. The best player avilable is a SG and with waiters the cavs dont really need him and it would push waiters to 6th man. Or they could go with a centre carrying an ACL.

I wish they had the 2014 number 1 pick I would I give up all thier picks this year for andrew wiggins.
The best player available is not a SG... Who are you thinking of? Ben Mclemore?

Nerlens Noel the clear no.1 imo. Great shot-blocking big man



WASHINGTON GET PICK 3 AGAINST THE ODDS! Watch out for Wall in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
Weak draft class so not sure that the number 1 pick is going to dominate.

yeah not super strong. The best player avilable is a SG and with waiters the cavs dont really need him and it would push waiters to 6th man. Or they could go with a centre carrying an ACL.

I wish they had the 2014 number 1 pick I would I give up all thier picks this year for andrew wiggins.
The best player available is not a SG... Who are you thinking of? Ben Mclemore?

Nerlens Noel the clear no.1 imo. Great shot-blocking big man



WASHINGTON GET PICK 3 AGAINST THE ODDS! Watch out for Wall in the playoffs.

Mclemore has the edge over him just because of the ACl. uninjured Noel easy but the best player playing is Mclemore just becasue he is playing.

I would pick up Noel but i wouldnt be suprised at all to see Mclemore go 1.

im watching some higlights and Wiggins and Parker over Noel easy even if he wasnt injured.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 22, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
Weak draft class so not sure that the number 1 pick is going to dominate.

yeah not super strong. The best player avilable is a SG and with waiters the cavs dont really need him and it would push waiters to 6th man. Or they could go with a centre carrying an ACL.

I wish they had the 2014 number 1 pick I would I give up all thier picks this year for andrew wiggins.
The best player available is not a SG... Who are you thinking of? Ben Mclemore?

Nerlens Noel the clear no.1 imo. Great shot-blocking big man



WASHINGTON GET PICK 3 AGAINST THE ODDS! Watch out for Wall in the playoffs.

Mclemore has the edge over him just because of the ACl. uninjured Noel easy but the best player playing is Mclemore just becasue he is playing.

I would pick up Noel but i wouldnt be suprised at all to see Mclemore go 1.

im watching some higlights and Wiggins and Parker over Noel easy even if he wasnt injured.
Yes of course Wiggins over Noel - easily. I've been on the Wiggins bandwagon for aggeeeesss. Hopefully he dominates for Kansas.

I take Noel over Mclemore though. And Cavs taking Noel is pretty obvious really. Dont need another guard imo. Thats if they hold the pick though. Celtics are predicted to make a play for Nerlens Noel....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Weak draft class so not sure that the number 1 pick is going to dominate.

yeah not super strong. The best player avilable is a SG and with waiters the cavs dont really need him and it would push waiters to 6th man. Or they could go with a centre carrying an ACL.

I wish they had the 2014 number 1 pick I would I give up all thier picks this year for andrew wiggins.
The best player available is not a SG... Who are you thinking of? Ben Mclemore?

Nerlens Noel the clear no.1 imo. Great shot-blocking big man



WASHINGTON GET PICK 3 AGAINST THE ODDS! Watch out for Wall in the playoffs.

Mclemore has the edge over him just because of the ACl. uninjured Noel easy but the best player playing is Mclemore just becasue he is playing.

I would pick up Noel but i wouldnt be suprised at all to see Mclemore go 1.

im watching some higlights and Wiggins and Parker over Noel easy even if he wasnt injured.
Yes of course Wiggins over Noel - easily. I've been on the Wiggins bandwagon for aggeeeesss. Hopefully he dominates for Kansas.

I take Noel over Mclemore though. And Cavs taking Noel is pretty obvious really. Dont need another guard imo. Thats if they hold the pick though. Celtics are predicted to make a play for Nerlens Noel....

what could you trade though. Pierce and KG obviously no interest. Rondo and Bradley dont need. not sure what you could do.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 22, 2013, 03:59:13 PM
Holz I also think Oladipo is a much better player than Mclemore...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1647672-victor-oladipo-is-the-cream-of-the-crop-in-2013-nba-draft
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
Holz I also think Oladipo is a much better player than Mclemore...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1647672-victor-oladipo-is-the-cream-of-the-crop-in-2013-nba-draft

depends what draft report your reading, there are bleacher reports that have mclemore going pick 1.

its hard to say this year as no real standout except for Noel.

pretty weak draft class if the number 1 is likely going to be the guy with an ACL injury.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 22, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
Holz I also think Oladipo is a much better player than Mclemore...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1647672-victor-oladipo-is-the-cream-of-the-crop-in-2013-nba-draft

depends what draft report your reading, there are bleacher reports that have mclemore going pick 1.

its hard to say this year as no real standout except for Noel.

pretty weak draft class if the number 1 is likely going to be the guy with an ACL injury.
Oladipo is the best player in the draft, Noel second, Mclemore 3rd.

Noel will go pick 1 due to being a big man.

Wiggins so much better than all of them. High-school stats are similar to that of Lebron James
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 22, 2013, 04:30:26 PM
Holz I also think Oladipo is a much better player than Mclemore...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1647672-victor-oladipo-is-the-cream-of-the-crop-in-2013-nba-draft

depends what draft report your reading, there are bleacher reports that have mclemore going pick 1.

its hard to say this year as no real standout except for Noel.

pretty weak draft class if the number 1 is likely going to be the guy with an ACL injury.
Oladipo is the best player in the draft, Noel second, Mclemore 3rd.

Noel will go pick 1 due to being a big man.

Wiggins so much better than all of them. High-school stats are similar to that of Lebron James

have heard him being refenced as the canadian lebron. Lets just hope he can step it up like the real lebron and be a top of all time, Hey Jay
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on May 22, 2013, 04:38:58 PM
depends what draft report your reading, there are bleacher reports that have mclemore going pick 1.

its hard to say this year as no real standout except for Noel.

pretty weak draft class if the number 1 is likely going to be the guy with an ACL injury.

And don't forget his lack of offensive game
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 22, 2013, 04:48:45 PM
Holz I also think Oladipo is a much better player than Mclemore...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1647672-victor-oladipo-is-the-cream-of-the-crop-in-2013-nba-draft

depends what draft report your reading, there are bleacher reports that have mclemore going pick 1.

its hard to say this year as no real standout except for Noel.

pretty weak draft class if the number 1 is likely going to be the guy with an ACL injury.
Oladipo is the best player in the draft, Noel second, Mclemore 3rd.

Noel will go pick 1 due to being a big man.

Wiggins so much better than all of them. High-school stats are similar to that of Lebron James

have heard him being refenced as the canadian lebron. Lets just hope he can step it up like the real lebron and be a top of all time, Hey Jay
Lets hope it takes him less than 9 seasons and many choking acts in order to get a ring!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on May 23, 2013, 08:50:13 PM
Feel sorry for Orlando. Really do.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 23, 2013, 09:04:28 PM
Feel sorry for Orlando. Really do.
Meh pick 2 aint bad. They have Vucevic so Noel wouldn't be too valuable anymore. Think they will happily take Mclemore.

Might put up a post of my predictions for this season a bit later tonight :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 27, 2013, 05:56:32 PM
Jayman's 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions


Will revisit this to see how many happen ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on May 27, 2013, 06:14:09 PM
OKC championship?

If there team relatively stays the same I can't see it happening. Miami are still ahead of them, while teams like Chicago, Indiana and both LA teams should all be on the rise.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 27, 2013, 06:40:44 PM
OKC championship?

If there team relatively stays the same I can't see it happening. Miami are still ahead of them, while teams like Chicago, Indiana and both LA teams should all be on the rise.
This will be Kevin Durant's season. He gets a ring.

Both LA teams are shower. Chicago may veru well do it but it obviously depends on 1 man... Can he return to mvp form?

Boston sneaky chance to make ECF depending on free agency.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on May 27, 2013, 07:09:50 PM
OKC championship?

If there team relatively stays the same I can't see it happening. Miami are still ahead of them, while teams like Chicago, Indiana and both LA teams should all be on the rise.
This will be Kevin Durant's season. He gets a ring.

Both LA teams are shower. Chicago may veru well do it but it obviously depends on 1 man... Can he return to mvp form?

Boston sneaky chance to make ECF depending on free agency.
I was a big fan of OKC this season but the late season and some results kinda turned me off them.

You can't call the LA teams shower. Both have the star power, more so in the Lakers case. Then you consider teams like SA who have a great group of young guys alongside TP, Duncan and Ginobili. GSW could really turn into something great if they pick up a few guys in the off season.

I can't think of a reason to write off Chicago. DRose + Noah he was really proven to be one of the best and most influential big men in the league.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 27, 2013, 07:25:05 PM
OKC championship?

If there team relatively stays the same I can't see it happening. Miami are still ahead of them, while teams like Chicago, Indiana and both LA teams should all be on the rise.
This will be Kevin Durant's season. He gets a ring.

Both LA teams are shower. Chicago may veru well do it but it obviously depends on 1 man... Can he return to mvp form?

Boston sneaky chance to make ECF depending on free agency.
I was a big fan of OKC this season but the late season and some results kinda turned me off them.

You can't call the LA teams shower. Both have the star power, more so in the Lakers case. Then you consider teams like SA who have a great group of young guys alongside TP, Duncan and Ginobili. GSW could really turn into something great if they pick up a few guys in the off season.

I can't think of a reason to write off Chicago. DRose + Noah he was really proven to be one of the best and most influential big men in the league.
Westbrook is so important to the Thunder. Were never going to beat Grizz without him. They will take out the west.

Lakers got swept round 1 and they are old + injury prone. Clippers style =/= Playoff wins

Chicago, Indiana take your pick. Rose returns to MVP form - Chicago win
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 27, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
I say only one of those calls will come true.

Wizards in the playoffs is defibateky plausible
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 27, 2013, 08:29:02 PM
Wiz will make playoffs easily led by John 'better than Irving' Wall

I say only one of those calls will come true.

Wizards in the playoffs is defibateky plausible
I take it you have never seen Avery Bradley play? Biggest lock of all my predictions is him to male All-D first team.

Got more first team votes than the DPOY :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 27, 2013, 10:55:13 PM
Wiz will make playoffs easily led by John 'better than Irving' Wall

I say only one of those calls will come true.

Wizards in the playoffs is defibateky plausible
I take it you have never seen Avery Bradley play? Biggest lock of all my predictions is him to male All-D first team.

Got more first team votes than the DPOY :o

Agreed with you on the wizards till you said better than Irving. It's going to be another jay v holz debate but I'm a cav fan. I have seen Bradley play and he is a great defender. Can't do much else though. He should get first team I don't think he will.

I will give my predictions and we will compare.

Spoiler LeBron for 5th mvp.

Shocker I know.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: FisherSaints on May 28, 2013, 05:47:17 AM
Can't wait for the 13-14 season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 28, 2013, 06:41:27 AM
Wiz will make playoffs easily led by John 'better than Irving' Wall

I say only one of those calls will come true.

Wizards in the playoffs is defibateky plausible
I take it you have never seen Avery Bradley play? Biggest lock of all my predictions is him to male All-D first team.

Got more first team votes than the DPOY :o

Agreed with you on the wizards till you said better than Irving. It's going to be another jay v holz debate but I'm a cav fan. I have seen Bradley play and he is a great defender. Can't do much else though. He should get first team I don't think he will.

I will give my predictions and we will compare.

Spoiler LeBron for 5th mvp.

Shocker I know.
You do not need to do much else to make All-D team, its all about defense. And Bradley is one of the best cutters at the guard position, he has great timing and gets most of his points on a layup after a great cut. His jumpshot isnt bad and at only 22, eventuly he will be a solid scorer + passer along with best guard defender in theeague.

Ahh I remember the Irving vs Wall debate 8) good times. The only thing I'm giving Irving over Wall is his perimeter shootin and clutch gene (not saying Wall is a choker - Irving on a crazy level). But in terms of ball-handling, passing, inside scoring, athleticism and most of all DEFENSE.

I am adding a prediction... John Wall will lead the league in steals. 90% sure on that.

Also, Jeff Green will be a top 10 scorer EASILY. Who is gonna get our points if we dont have Pierce? Rondo may not be back straight away and KG struggles to get his own shot these days. So apart from landing a big FA, Green will be our no.1 scorer. He will average 22-25ppg this season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 29, 2013, 08:22:22 AM
Vinny Del Negro fired, claims CP3 is calling the shots, GM didnt deny it says its a " players league"

I worry about u Young Blood, u never admit ur wrong or adjust ur opinion...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on May 29, 2013, 09:23:12 AM
Jayman's 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

    • Andrew Bynum will be the all-nba first team centre
    • Most improved will go to Evan Turner

Will revisit this to see how many happen ;)

Although I don't agree with a lot of those, these two gave me the biggest laugh.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2013, 03:09:48 PM
Vinny Del Negro fired, claims CP3 is calling the shots, GM didnt deny it says its a " players league"

I worry about u Young Blood, u never admit ur wrong or adjust ur opinion..
I THOUGHT BOSTON WOULD BEAT KNICKS. I WAS WRONG. JAYMAN WAS WRONG, YOU GUYS WERE RIGHT.

Happy? :)




Jayman's 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

    • Andrew Bynum will be the all-nba first team centre
    • Most improved will go to Evan Turner

Will revisit this to see how many happen ;)

Although I don't agree with a lot of those, these two gave me the biggest laugh.
Most improved is almost impossible to pick. Evan Turner has potential.

I just cant see a centre that is better than a fit Bynum. Of course fitness is the issue but hoping he can finally string some games together. Probably wont happen due to his knees but if just maybe he gets his knees right, certainly capable of first team imo.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on May 29, 2013, 03:22:18 PM
Most improved is almost impossible to pick. Evan Turner has potential.

I just cant see a centre that is better than a fit Bynum. Of course fitness is the issue but hoping he can finally string some games together. Probably wont happen due to his knees but if just maybe he gets his knees right, certainly capable of first team imo.

Talking to a lot of 6'ers fans and following their season fairly closely, Turner has been nothing short of a bust at the two pick. He is like Brickadala where he would do everything ok but nothing well and disappear for long stretches of the season. Right now he is expected to get a rather large payday with his contract as it is, and they will be looking to move him on. It might have been the Doug Collins system which encouraged mid range jump shots and that not  being one of his strengths may have hurt his performance, but I think that what you will see with Turner is a guy who will come on, light it up for 1 or 2 games and then continue to go missing down the stretch.

And as you said with Bynum it comes down to his body and his knee won't hold up for an 82 game season. The guy everyone continues to undersell is Marc Gasol. He finally got some recognition this season but if this guy was not playing at the Grizz people would be giving him the credit he deserves.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2013, 03:45:32 PM
Holz's 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

Chris Paul will be the all nba first team point guard
Rajan Rondo will be all nabe 3rd team at best
Kryie Irving takes Cavs to the playoffs if he plays 65+ games
John Wall takes the Wizards to the playoffs
Lebron James wins 5th MVP
Miami Heat get the three peat 
Dwight Howard will be the all-nba first team centre
Marc Gasol will be the defensive player of the year
Most improved will go to Derick Favours or Tobias Harris
Ben Mclemore wins rookie of the year
Russel Westbrook will make all nba first team
Blake Griffin wil be considered a top 10 player
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on May 29, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
Jayman's 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

  • Rajon Rondo will be the all nba first team point guard
  • Jeff Green will be a top 10 scorer
  • Avery Bradley will be in the all defensive first team
  • John Wall takes the Wizards to the playoffs
  • Kevin Durant wins MVP
  • Oklahoma City win the championship
  • Andrew Bynum will be the all-nba first team centre
  • Andrew Bogut will be the defensive player of the year
  • Most improved will go to Evan Turner
  • Indiana Pacers win the eastern conference
  • Victor Oladipo wins rookie of the year
  • Jared Sullinger averages a double double

Will revisit this to see how many happen ;)

Seems a very biased list of predictions just quietly.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 29, 2013, 03:52:34 PM
Yep i am :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2013, 03:58:27 PM
Haha mine are so bias Windi, I'm the most bias NBA fan I know ;) I like to say things a bit out of the ordinary. What fun is it agreeing with what everyone else says?! I might do a proper, unbias, legit set of predictions too... Just doesn't have the same effect for me ;D

One that I may have to change is Rondo - first team. Depends when he is back on the court... Says he is fine with where he is at and hopes to be ready by training camp! Good signs. But I will keep fine-tuning those predictions until the season is underway.

Ultimately Mat, for M.I.P I just picked the player that has the most potential but has not yet shown it yet. I've seen Turner have some huge games against Boston and if he can become more consistent, he will be a solid player in this league.

Oh yeah, Marc Gasol is elite. Passing out of the post and defense his two biggest strengths. I like Bynum's offensive game with his back to the basket but Gasol is right up there. Brook Lopez anyone? The other guy along with Bynum that Shaq said was better than Dwight...

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on May 29, 2013, 04:00:38 PM
M.I.P I reckon could be Nikola Vucevic?

Could explode for 20 a game & the same amount of boards (12+)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2013, 04:10:23 PM
Holz's 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

Chris Paul will be the all nba first team point guard
Rajan Rondo will be all nabe 3rd team at best
Kryie Irving takes Cavs to the playoffs if he plays 65+ games
John Wall takes the Wizards to the playoffs
Lebron James wins 5th MVP
Miami Heat get the three peat 
Dwight Howard will be the all-nba first team centre
Marc Gasol will be the defensive player of the year
Most improved will go to Derick Favours or Tobias Harris
Ben Mclemore wins rookie of the year
Russel Westbrook will make all nba first team
Blake Griffin wil be considered a top 10 player
I take Parker over Paul in terms of a point guard.

Heat will lose this year so what makes you think they win next?

This season was the last season that LBJ > KD. Durant will be the new no.1

Dwight was not close to all-NBA team this year, why next year? He has to conted with much improved Gasol and Noah + return of Bynum

Not sure how Russ can be in the first team if obviously James Harden is a lock + you have CP3 in there too...

Blake Griffin so far is the most over-hyped and over-rated player of the last decade. But I agree with you here, he could be the star of the NBA... Not saying he will, plenty he needs to work on but he is so gifted
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 29, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
Holz's 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

Chris Paul will be the all nba first team point guard
Rajan Rondo will be all nabe 3rd team at best
Kryie Irving takes Cavs to the playoffs if he plays 65+ games
John Wall takes the Wizards to the playoffs
Lebron James wins 5th MVP
Miami Heat get the three peat 
Dwight Howard will be the all-nba first team centre
Marc Gasol will be the defensive player of the year
Most improved will go to Derick Favours or Tobias Harris
Ben Mclemore wins rookie of the year
Russel Westbrook will make all nba first team
Blake Griffin wil be considered a top 10 player
I take Parker over Paul in terms of a point guard.

Heat will lose this year so what makes you think they win next?

This season was the last season that LBJ > KD. Durant will be the new no.1

Dwight was not close to all-NBA team this year, why next year? He has to conted with much improved Gasol and Noah + return of Bynum

Not sure how Russ can be in the first team if obviously James Harden is a lock + you have CP3 in there too...

Blake Griffin so far is the most over-hyped and over-rated player of the last decade. But I agree with you here, he could be the star of the NBA... Not saying he will, plenty he needs to work on but he is so gifted

think clippers will take it to another level, Paul has youth on his side.

heat will win this year and should get even better next year.

dwight was coming back from injury this season, he might not be at the lkaers next year and that should help him. even if he does kobe might not come back or wont come back the old kobe so he will be the focal point of the team.

Russ is much better than harden. Harden is overated and russ is underated.

Blake griffin was overhyped now I woudl argue he is undervalued, has really improved his game and isnt just a dunker any more. He will show this year how good a player he actually is.

one more prediction. It will be the last year we see Lebron and Wade in the same team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on May 29, 2013, 04:28:54 PM
Nothing about Kobe...  :'(

He quits the lakers, goes & plays baseball and comes back with the Bobcats Hornets & takes them to the finals.  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 29, 2013, 06:37:21 PM

Marcz 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2013, 06:41:19 PM

Marcz 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

  • Steph Curry will be the all NBA first team point guard
  • Derrick Rose will be a top 10 scorer again in 70 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be in the all defensive first team
  • John Wall WONT play 60 games
  • Kevin Durant wins MVP and scoring title
  • Warriors make the WCF
  • Andrew Bynum WONT play in 41 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be the defensive player of the year
  • Most improved will go to Harrison Barnes
  • Indiana Pacers will return to the ECF
  • Dwyane Wade wont play in 60 games
  • Kevin Love averages 24ppg 16rpg in 70 games
Love it! Good to see another Roy Hibbert fan. Do you often see 2nd year most improved?

Think next year will be wide-open! OKC, Pacers, Bulls, Miami and Clippers are all legitimate chances for the championship imo. Give GSW one more year, then they will be very hard to stop!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 29, 2013, 06:57:25 PM

Marcz 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

  • Steph Curry will be the all NBA first team point guard
  • Derrick Rose will be a top 10 scorer again in 70 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be in the all defensive first team
  • John Wall WONT play 60 games
  • Kevin Durant wins MVP and scoring title
  • Warriors make the WCF
  • Andrew Bynum WONT play in 41 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be the defensive player of the year
  • Most improved will go to Harrison Barnes
  • Indiana Pacers will return to the ECF
  • Dwyane Wade wont play in 60 games
  • Kevin Love averages 24ppg 16rpg in 70 games
Love it! Good to see another Roy Hibbert fan. Do you often see 2nd year most improved?

Think next year will be wide-open! OKC, Pacers, Bulls, Miami and Clippers are all legitimate chances for the championship imo. Give GSW one more year, then they will be very hard to stop!

Being a fantasy nut, ive been on the Hibbert wagon since he came into the league, he has also struggled with a wrist injury the last 12 months so only now r we seeing the steady 18 an 10 type production with 3 blocks and good %s... his fg% was really bad early this season, under 40% for awhile which for 7'2 guy is pukeworthy... Still not convinced The Clippers keep CP3 even tho they r letting him fire coaches :P OKC r going to be without Westbrook early on which is why im tipping Durant for MVP and scoring title, he will drop ridiculous numbers for fantasy next year
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2013, 07:24:13 PM

Marcz 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

  • Steph Curry will be the all NBA first team point guard
  • Derrick Rose will be a top 10 scorer again in 70 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be in the all defensive first team
  • John Wall WONT play 60 games
  • Kevin Durant wins MVP and scoring title
  • Warriors make the WCF
  • Andrew Bynum WONT play in 41 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be the defensive player of the year
  • Most improved will go to Harrison Barnes
  • Indiana Pacers will return to the ECF
  • Dwyane Wade wont play in 60 games
  • Kevin Love averages 24ppg 16rpg in 70 games
Love it! Good to see another Roy Hibbert fan. Do you often see 2nd year most improved?

Think next year will be wide-open! OKC, Pacers, Bulls, Miami and Clippers are all legitimate chances for the championship imo. Give GSW one more year, then they will be very hard to stop!

Being a fantasy nut, ive been on the Hibbert wagon since he came into the league, he has also struggled with a wrist injury the last 12 months so only now r we seeing the steady 18 an 10 type production with 3 blocks and good %s... his fg% was really bad early this season, under 40% for awhile which for 7'2 guy is pukeworthy... Still not convinced The Clippers keep CP3 even tho they r letting him fire coaches :P OKC r going to be without Westbrook early on which is why im tipping Durant for MVP and scoring title, he will drop ridiculous numbers for fantasy next year
Durant will average 35+ with no Westbrook. He is that good.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 29, 2013, 07:46:35 PM

Marcz 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

  • Steph Curry will be the all NBA first team point guard
  • Derrick Rose will be a top 10 scorer again in 70 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be in the all defensive first team
  • John Wall WONT play 60 games
  • Kevin Durant wins MVP and scoring title
  • Warriors make the WCF
  • Andrew Bynum WONT play in 41 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be the defensive player of the year
  • Most improved will go to Harrison Barnes
  • Indiana Pacers will return to the ECF
  • Dwyane Wade wont play in 60 games
  • Kevin Love averages 24ppg 16rpg in 70 games
Love it! Good to see another Roy Hibbert fan. Do you often see 2nd year most improved?

Think next year will be wide-open! OKC, Pacers, Bulls, Miami and Clippers are all legitimate chances for the championship imo. Give GSW one more year, then they will be very hard to stop!

Being a fantasy nut, ive been on the Hibbert wagon since he came into the league, he has also struggled with a wrist injury the last 12 months so only now r we seeing the steady 18 an 10 type production with 3 blocks and good %s... his fg% was really bad early this season, under 40% for awhile which for 7'2 guy is pukeworthy... Still not convinced The Clippers keep CP3 even tho they r letting him fire coaches :P OKC r going to be without Westbrook early on which is why im tipping Durant for MVP and scoring title, he will drop ridiculous numbers for fantasy next year
Durant will average 35+ with no Westbrook. He is that good.
on that we agree ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 29, 2013, 08:13:45 PM

Marcz 2013-2014 NBA Season Predictions

  • Steph Curry will be the all NBA first team point guard
  • Derrick Rose will be a top 10 scorer again in 70 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be in the all defensive first team
  • John Wall WONT play 60 games
  • Kevin Durant wins MVP and scoring title
  • Warriors make the WCF
  • Andrew Bynum WONT play in 41 games
  • Roy Hibbert will be the defensive player of the year
  • Most improved will go to Harrison Barnes
  • Indiana Pacers will return to the ECF
  • Dwyane Wade wont play in 60 games
  • Kevin Love averages 24ppg 16rpg in 70 games
Love it! Good to see another Roy Hibbert fan. Do you often see 2nd year most improved?

Think next year will be wide-open! OKC, Pacers, Bulls, Miami and Clippers are all legitimate chances for the championship imo. Give GSW one more year, then they will be very hard to stop!

Being a fantasy nut, ive been on the Hibbert wagon since he came into the league, he has also struggled with a wrist injury the last 12 months so only now r we seeing the steady 18 an 10 type production with 3 blocks and good %s... his fg% was really bad early this season, under 40% for awhile which for 7'2 guy is pukeworthy... Still not convinced The Clippers keep CP3 even tho they r letting him fire coaches :P OKC r going to be without Westbrook early on which is why im tipping Durant for MVP and scoring title, he will drop ridiculous numbers for fantasy next year
Durant will average 35+ with no Westbrook. He is that good.
on that we agree ;)
yay! Kobe's 81 is in danger...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 30, 2013, 03:02:34 PM
Cavs not own the 1st overall pick, the 19th, 31st and 33rd. could look to make some killer moves in the offseason see what you think. Im looking at a fairy tale lebron return and they could make some potentiall very strong teams.

1.) Kevin Love to Cavs for pick 1 + trsitan thompson/picks

Irving Waiters James Love Varejo a possiblity here?

Cavs need boards and Love is one of the best in the business.

2. Cavs trade pick 19th, 31st and 33rd for 13th from the mavs and get another highly rated young player and pick up Shabazz Muhammad or Alex Len.

3. pick 1 for Al Hroford.

Irving Waiters James Thompson Hroford not a bad starting 5.

4. pick 1 + zeller for Lemarcus Alrdgide


Irving Waiters James Thompson Aldrigde is a killer starting 5.


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on May 30, 2013, 03:18:36 PM
No team is going to want to trade up in this draft and give up a whole lot.

I also don't see the Wolves being dumb enough to trade Love although they did disrespect the man this year with some comments that were made. Love did not handle it the best either but they do have a good young core there and are only one shooter away from being a playoff team. Love & Rubio are going to give a lot of teams headaches when they finally get on the court together. It is not often you have a big man who is such a beast at rebounding and scrapping for points while also being able to stretch the floor. Budinger was providing some scoring before he got injured, Shved had an up and down rookie season but provided some scoring, Williams will be a very good big man to come off the bench in a rotation, JJ is an awesome scoring option off the bench but they still need that consistent 3 point scoring threat and another lock down defender, especially when Kirilenko leaves/retires. They need to keep that core together and try and add some pieces. Injuries derailed their season this year, they are one to watch next season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 30, 2013, 03:19:50 PM
T-Wolves will make the playoffs next season with their current squad.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on May 30, 2013, 03:34:42 PM
T-Wolves will make the playoffs next season with their current squad.

Yup. They get two key players back in Rubio and Love. Love was out for the majority of the season and Rubio was out and then restricted for most of the time he came back. They got some much needed development into some rookie and sophomores (Shved and Williams). Unfortunately for them the West is so competitive, if they played in the east they would be a lock for playoffs, but in the west they are fighting for a bottom position. The Brandon Roy punt also did not work out. He was the guy they needed to be able to fire with a healthy squad. Poor guy will never be able to get that knee right.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 30, 2013, 03:39:48 PM
T-Wolves will make the playoffs next season with their current squad.

Yup. They get two key players back in Rubio and Love. Love was out for the majority of the season and Rubio was out and then restricted for most of the time he came back. They got some much needed development into some rookie and sophomores (Shved and Williams). Unfortunately for them the West is so competitive, if they played in the east they would be a lock for playoffs, but in the west they are fighting for a bottom position. The Brandon Roy punt also did not work out. He was the guy they needed to be able to fire with a healthy squad. Poor guy will never be able to get that knee right.
Give Bynum that same respect? :P

Pekovic has evolved into a quality big, AK is still a great big and Rubio + Love has the potential to be one of the best pg/big combo's in the league imo.

East will be interesting with both Washington and Cleveland hoping for their first playoff spot in a while.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on May 30, 2013, 03:56:54 PM
Give Bynum that same respect? :P

Pekovic has evolved into a quality big, AK is still a great big and Rubio + Love has the potential to be one of the best pg/big combo's in the league imo.

East will be interesting with both Washington and Cleveland hoping for their first playoff spot in a while.

Bynum I have no sympathy for. Dude is a giant baby like Dwight and a complete moron. Instead of rehabbing his injured knee to play for his new team he finds another way to get injured by bowling. Roy on the other hand was a consummate professional. The trade for Philly will be based on what they do with the cap space they managed to free up by getting rid of Brickadala and getting Bynums contracts off the books. They were not going anywhere with the squad they had, they need to tank this coming season again, offload ET, let Hawesome, JRich and a few of the other dud contracts expire and build around Jrue, Thad, Moultrie, the hopefully high lotto draft pick they will get next season and a couple of free agents they can get with the cap space they will have.

Back to the Wolves, AK is a premier wing defender, but age is catching up, they lack defense and they need to find a replacement for him. Pekovic is a restricted free agent this season and will probably get offered big money. He still irks me when I watch him play. He is not the defensive presence they need him to be. He lets in to many easy baskets in the paint which is not what you want from your center when he is playing next to a guy like Kevin Love who may not be the best defender but is elite on the boards.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on May 31, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
Just thought I'd can through the news headlines with trade rumors nba and picked out these....

Latest Trade/NBA Rumors:

Kidd wants to play on again, only with NY though.

Rockets want to clear cap space by getting rid of T-Rob for Dwight.

Josh Smith could be on the move, Atlanta have 7 free agents...  :o

Suns want to ship Beasley out ASAP.

Eric Bledsloe->Magic

Eric Gordon could be on the move, maybe to Phoenix. Or back to Clippers..

Cleveland could offer Pick One to Kings for DMC.

D.Granger to Cleveland.

Number one pick to Portland & Thompson for Aldridge.

Afflalo->Clippers.

Caron Butler->Magic

Peirce->Somewhere.  :P



Anyone got anymore to add?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on May 31, 2013, 09:20:38 AM
Hope those cav rumours come true.

Irving Waiters Granger Thompson Cousins has super potential.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2013, 11:23:39 AM
Id rather see them acquire Alridge out of those, DmC has to stay with the Kings too imo...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 31, 2013, 03:18:45 PM
Chris Paul, Windi?

Bynum to Charlotte
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on May 31, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
I heard Paul could go to Atlanta or Mavs.

Bynum to Charlotte?  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on May 31, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Yeah I am hearing same as you. Hawks and Mavs could really become contendors after this off season.

Hearing that Charlotte is the team Bynum is most likely to be at, not Philly. Good move for both parties, he will dominaye.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on May 31, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
Lol Bynum to charlotte would be the cherry on top of those great decisions of recent times...

CP3 is allegedly powered at clips front office #onthemove...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 01, 2013, 08:06:40 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9328547/houston-rockets-hopeful-land-dwight-howard-sources-say...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 01, 2013, 08:30:36 AM
Lin, Harden, Parsons, T-Rob, Dwight, Asik?

Looks a top 3 seed in the west to me
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on June 01, 2013, 11:13:30 AM
Lin, Harden, Parsons, T-Rob, Dwight, Asik?

Looks a top 3 seed in the west to me
But Lin sucks  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 01, 2013, 11:26:57 AM
Lin, Harden, Parsons, T-Rob, Dwight, Asik?

Looks a top 3 seed in the west to me
But Lin sucks  :P
Lin is a bad fit for Harden, an Eric Gordon, Jamal Crawford, Lou Williams type guard to play along side him would be a much better fit, Harden loves to handle and Lin is a terrible spot up shooter, he too loves to handle and drive...

If Houston get this off season right they could be a super power, moving Lin being the main move to land two big fish...

Atlanta look like the movers imo, if they dont re sign Josh Smith they only have Al Horford on a big contract, Al could play well with Dwight, in fact the combination of those two is almost perfect, then they could pursue CP3...

CP3-DH12-Big Al :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on June 01, 2013, 11:40:04 AM
Dwight and his buddy Josh Smith want to play together.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 01, 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Dwight and his buddy Josh Smith want to play together.
Gz that would be a tanty throwing team, may as well sign Lance Stevenson, DeMarcus Cousins and the like
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on June 03, 2013, 04:07:55 PM
Just posting so this comes up in my new replies  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 06, 2013, 12:03:20 PM
Jr Smith has opted out of his contract making him a free agent.

Could potentially be on the move, but unlikely I'd reckon...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 06, 2013, 12:07:30 PM
Jr Smith has opted out of his contract making him a free agent.

Could potentially be on the move, but unlikely I'd reckon...

Jr Smith to take his talents to the South Beach if the heat win again to chase a 3 peat.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 06, 2013, 12:12:21 PM
Jr should take his coming off the bench talents to LA.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 06, 2013, 12:21:01 PM
Jr should take his coming off the bench talents to LA.  :P

nah he wants to make the playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 06, 2013, 01:17:57 PM
I'm talking about Lakers, not Clippers Holz.  8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 06, 2013, 01:37:12 PM
I'm talking about Lakers, not Clippers Holz.  8)

if paul leaves they are in major trouble again.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on June 06, 2013, 01:52:39 PM
I am watching ESPN at the moment, I love the Kobe ad for the finals. I saw it the other day, it is F'ing awesome
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 06, 2013, 03:12:45 PM
There is a Finals marathon on ESPN tonight 8)

JR Smith isnt somebody id want on my team, he fits with NY bcos they already have the same sort of guy... Melo

I get the feeling there will be some big moves, DH12 and CP3 will be on the move imo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on June 06, 2013, 03:31:19 PM
There is a Finals marathon on ESPN tonight 8)

JR Smith isnt somebody id want on my team, he fits with NY bcos they already have the same sort of guy... Melo

I get the feeling there will be some big moves, DH12 and CP3 will be on the move imo


I saw that the other day as well. I think it is docos compared to actual full games from what I saw on the EPG
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 06, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Yeah, this year is gunna be great for free agency with Cavs shopping around pick one and a lot of stars out of contract.  8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 10, 2013, 08:37:16 AM
Rumour is Bobcats would give up pick 4 to Miami for Chris Bosh....

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Jason Kidd retired & now wants to coach Brooklyn!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 10, 2013, 09:23:31 AM
Rumour is Bobcats would give up pick 4 to Miami for Chris Bosh....

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Jason Kidd retired & now wants to coach Brooklyn!

Id be tempted to give JKidd a run at it, terriffic basketball mind, not sure if it would translate but DWill would be keen...

The only reason Pick 4 to The Bobcats is a good move is if DH12 already has his FA bags packed for South Beach ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 10, 2013, 01:37:47 PM
Doc Rivers uncertain about coaching future :-\

If he leaves that will really hurt. I rate him as the best coach in the league. Anyone disagree? Apart from Holz of course ::)

Not seeing enough Bynum rumours! Where will the best offensive centre in the league go?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 10, 2013, 01:43:49 PM
Popovich aint bad?

Adelman isnt too shabby neither

and Carlisle did only win an NBA championship 3 seasons ago
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 10, 2013, 01:48:16 PM
Popovich started hack-a-shaq. He can flower off.

The way Doc motivates his players is like nothing I have ever seen. Has total control of the group and they trust him. We know how hard it is to coach a big three... He led them to a title in their first year in Boston.

Vogel isn't even top 29...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on June 10, 2013, 03:21:01 PM
Lol, Pop > Doc.

You're nearly as bias as Jukesy is Jay :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 10, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
Really? Mr hackashaq the best coach in the league?

Doc is undoubtedly a top 3 coach in the league
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 10, 2013, 04:33:08 PM
assuming Phil isnt in the equation... Pop>Doc definitely, 4 rings dont lie
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 10, 2013, 06:25:22 PM
assuming Phil isnt in the equation... Pop>Doc definitely, 4 rings dont lie
Doc no. 2?

Doc beat Phil in '08 :D and would've the season after too if Perk had stayed healthy :'(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 10, 2013, 08:35:27 PM
assuming Phil isnt in the equation... Pop>Doc definitely, 4 rings dont lie
Doc no. 2?

Doc beat Phil in '08 :D and would've the season after too if Perk had stayed healthy :'(
Spo would be going for a 3peat right now if The Real LeBron James stood up in 2011 so ifs r just that...

He is a great coach and nobody else really jumps out at me, Carlisle maybe but i prefer the way Doc goes about his business...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 10, 2013, 08:50:56 PM
assuming Phil isnt in the equation... Pop>Doc definitely, 4 rings dont lie
Doc no. 2?

Doc beat Phil in '08 :D and would've the season after too if Perk had stayed healthy :'(
Spo would be going for a 3peat right now if The Real LeBron James stood up in 2011 so ifs r just that...

He is a great coach and nobody else really jumps out at me, Carlisle maybe but i prefer the way Doc goes about his business...
Yay, 2011 Finals got mentioned by someone other than me ;D

Definitely not D'Antoni.. Calling Kobe Bryant a fan! He is a disrespectful motherflowerer
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 10, 2013, 08:57:03 PM
assuming Phil isnt in the equation... Pop>Doc definitely, 4 rings dont lie
Doc no. 2?

Doc beat Phil in '08 :D and would've the season after too if Perk had stayed healthy :'(
Spo would be going for a 3peat right now if The Real LeBron James stood up in 2011 so ifs r just that...

He is a great coach and nobody else really jumps out at me, Carlisle maybe but i prefer the way Doc goes about his business...
Yay, 2011 Finals got mentioned by someone other than me ;D

Definitely not D'Antoni.. Calling Kobe Bryant a fan! He is a disrespectful motherflowerer

I like me a raspy ex player coach, credibility is a big tick for players buying into ur directions imo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 11, 2013, 12:11:57 AM
Doc Rivers uncertain about coaching future :-\

If he leaves that will really hurt. I rate him as the best coach in the league. Anyone disagree? Apart from Holz of course ::)

Not seeing enough Bynum rumours! Where will the best offensive centre in the league go?

Supringly I don't rate doc the best. Pop for me too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 11, 2013, 07:25:10 AM
Doc Rivers uncertain about coaching future :-\

If he leaves that will really hurt. I rate him as the best coach in the league. Anyone disagree? Apart from Holz of course ::)

Not seeing enough Bynum rumours! Where will the best offensive centre in the league go?

Supringly I don't rate doc the best. Pop for me too.
As long as you all have him no.2 then thats ok I guess.... ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 11, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
Ok so things are getting very interesting in Boston...

It appears that Ainge wants to blow up the roster and do a rebuild but Doc wants to have one more run at it with PP and KG.

Personally, I think Ainge should bring Pierce, KG and Doc back and go for banner 18 and if we don't get it, then we rebuild. This makes sense as Pierce comes out of contract at the end of next season.

If we trade Bass, Terry and Lee for some pieces, or even just to free cap room to allow us to sign Jack/Pekovic/Jefferson that would really help us out for next season.

We need to address 3 issues...

1. A backup point guard
2. Three point shooting
3. Paint dominance (rebounding, scoring, defense)

If we go into next season with these issues fixed and PP, KG + Doc then we can win the title.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 11, 2013, 09:52:16 PM
May as well have one more shot, there r no guarantees a team gets back to this point of knowing they can take a shot, proven championship pedigree in KG and PP, Ainge would be mad not to roll the dice again...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 11, 2013, 10:38:14 PM
May as well have one more shot, there r no guarantees a team gets back to this point of knowing they can take a shot, proven championship pedigree in KG and PP, Ainge would be mad not to roll the dice again...
I agree mate, I really do!

If we can finally get a fit roster for 82 games we can push for a top seed in the east.

A part of me says that PP and KG aren't done raising banners just yet...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 12, 2013, 11:07:23 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9362896/three-nba-teams-fined-tampering-ahead-free-agency...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 13, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/brooklyn-nets-hire-jason-kidd-as-new-head-coach-061213

''This is a tremendous opportunity to be named head coach of the Brooklyn Nets,
and it's a role I have been studying for over the course of my playing days,'' Kidd said.

''Championship teams are built on being prepared, playing unselfishly and being held accountable,
and that's how I expect to coach this basketball team.''

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 13, 2013, 03:39:40 PM
He'll be a great coach.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 14, 2013, 12:16:05 PM
i hope so...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 16, 2013, 07:43:54 AM
rumour is clippers want to trade griffin and bledsloe for dwight!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 08:04:11 AM
Im hearing that CP3 wants to stay at the Clipps



If Ainge elects for a rebuild, KG Doc and PP might continue their careers playing for the Clippers.

I we were to give up all 3, I would defntely want to get Jordan, bledsoe + a couple of 1st round picks and maybe some other pieces. But I dont want to see that happening.

Please Danny, 1 more year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 09:15:12 AM
Well this has changed pretty quicky! Clipps didnt accept Boston's offer as they did not want to part with Bledsoe. They have now opened up their headcoach position to Shaw/Hollins which means the Doc ship has sailed!

Now, we just need Ainge to let PP play out his contract. Hopefully Ainge realises that we can contend next season with a similar roster. Played barely any games with a Rondo/Bradley backcourt + Green starting.

Dont write us off just yet, mark my words... We have 1 more run left in us.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 09:37:49 AM
intersting to say the least...

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9390303/los-angeles-clippers-believe-land-doc-rivers-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-according-sources...

got a source/link on the ruling out of Rivers Jayman?

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 09:46:14 AM
intersting to say the least...

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9390303/los-angeles-clippers-believe-land-doc-rivers-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-according-sources...

got a source/link on the ruling out of Rivers Jayman?

Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 9h
This is indeed the goal, I'm told"@ESPNSteinLine: Doc, KG & Pierce all want to join Clippers as a trio if they can't roll on in Boston"
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 09:51:32 AM
It has been CONFIRMED by multiple sites(LAtimes.com Celticshub.com and others and even on the official Bleacher Report's twitter account) that the Clippers have moved on from Doc Rivers and offered their open head coaching position to Hollins and Shaw.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on June 16, 2013, 09:54:35 AM
Rumors that Dwight and CP3 have been texting and say they want to play with each other...

I'm personally hoping both go to Houston with the beard! #mysecondteam
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 03:29:21 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22432046/report-clippers-turn-down-celtics-rivers-to-stay-in-boston

(http://i.imgur.com/JLijS.gif)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 07:13:32 PM
Rumors that Dwight and CP3 have been texting and say they want to play with each other...

I'm personally hoping both go to Houston with the beard! #mysecondteam

that is a dope trio, dominant PG,SG and C 8)

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22432046/report-clippers-turn-down-celtics-rivers-to-stay-in-boston

(http://i.imgur.com/JLijS.gif)

interesting to see how it pans out, obviously onbaord for 1 more, IF they r out of contention by the Allstar break then what???
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on June 16, 2013, 07:16:24 PM
I can't understand why Doc would leave though. Understand KG & PP though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 07:18:29 PM
I can't understand why Doc would leave though. Understand KG & PP though.

change of scenery more than likely, fresh challenge
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22432046/report-clippers-turn-down-celtics-rivers-to-stay-in-boston

(http://i.imgur.com/JLijS.gif)

interesting to see how it pans out, obviously onbaord for 1 more, IF they r out of contention by the Allstar break then what???
Well thats obviously not going to happen, dont be silly :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 07:33:57 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22432046/report-clippers-turn-down-celtics-rivers-to-stay-in-boston

(http://i.imgur.com/JLijS.gif)

interesting to see how it pans out, obviously onbaord for 1 more, IF they r out of contention by the Allstar break then what???
Well thats obviously not going to happen, dont be silly :P

ideally they want to be easily top 4 or out of it so the franchise doesnt suffer long term...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 07:40:22 PM
We didn't get a fair shot at it last year. Had a good record with a Rondo + Bradley backcourt, but unfortunately that did not last long! And we have also found a diamond in Jeff Green who will be a 20ppg player from now on, he needs to start!

The only players I want gone are Bass,Terry and Lee. Get rid of those 3 for one solid player and we are set for another run. We also have our highest draft pick since the one we traded for Ray Allen - the guy we pick needs to be able to make an instant impact. Either a centre or backup pg for me... I think we'll take a backup PG.

I am unsure whether Pierce starts or not :-\

PG: Rondo
SG: Bradley
SF: Green/Pierce
PF: Sullinger/Green
C: Garnett

I want Green starting, so it comes down to whether we go really small (Green at PF) and start Pierce or go more conventional and have Green + Sully starting.

Honestly, I like what Sully brings as a rebounder. He deserves to start. Is that unfair to Pierce? Of course I want him out there at the death though...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
tbh i think it is Bradley who loses the minutes, in certain games he will take bigger minutes to hold down a dominant player but when they r playing a team like BKN, CHI, TOR,DET etc his minutes will suffer... Rondo,PP,Green,Sully/Garnett
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 07:46:11 PM
tbh i think it is Bradley who loses the minutes, in certain games he will take bigger minutes to hold down a dominant player but when they r playing a team like BKN, CHI, TOR,DET etc his minutes will suffer... Rondo,PP,Green,Sully/Garnett
That is a fair call. But Pierce didn't exactly flourish when playing as a SG in the playoffs?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 07:47:23 PM
tbh i think it is Bradley who loses the minutes, in certain games he will take bigger minutes to hold down a dominant player but when they r playing a team like BKN, CHI, TOR,DET etc his minutes will suffer... Rondo,PP,Green,Sully/Garnett
That is a fair call. But Pierce didn't exactly flourish when playing as a SG in the playoffs?
ino but ya have to move him on if ur getting better production out of a smaller contract younger player...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 16, 2013, 07:49:17 PM
tbh i think it is Bradley who loses the minutes, in certain games he will take bigger minutes to hold down a dominant player but when they r playing a team like BKN, CHI, TOR,DET etc his minutes will suffer... Rondo,PP,Green,Sully/Garnett
That is a fair call. But Pierce didn't exactly flourish when playing as a SG in the playoffs?
ino but ya have to move him on if ur getting better production out of a smaller contract younger player...
As you say it depends on the situation and whether the opposition beats you with their backcourt or frontcourt.

We know Pierce is better on offense however we also know that Bradley imo the best guard defender in the league, but most 'normal' people have him definitely in their top few! ;)

I trust Doc though, he'll make the right moves. Just hoping we wait a year for the rebuild.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 16, 2013, 08:01:21 PM
is this deal back up an about with Bledsoe inc?

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9391832/sources-los-angeles-clippers-resistant-trading-eric-bledsoe-boston-celtics-deal
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 18, 2013, 06:40:30 AM
So after recent speculation a deal was very close between C's and LA, it has once again been halted. The Clippers will not trade for Lee or Terry, and the only way Boston does this trade is if the Clippers either give up Bledsoe, or take Lee or Terry.

Ainge SHOULD NOT back down from this, would be super to get either Lee or Terry off our books and Bledsoe is a talented young backup to Rajon Rondo.



In other news, AI has been accused of kidnapping his 5 children :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on June 18, 2013, 12:22:20 PM
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/920/959/U0eyE2P_original.gif?1371485122)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 18, 2013, 12:32:35 PM
So after recent speculation a deal was very close between C's and LA, it has once again been halted. The Clippers will not trade for Lee or Terry, and the only way Boston does this trade is if the Clippers either give up Bledsoe, or take Lee or Terry.

Ainge SHOULD NOT back down from this, would be super to get either Lee or Terry off our books and Bledsoe is a talented young backup to Rajon Rondo.



In other news, AI has been accused of kidnapping his 5 children :o
??? ive said before that nothing he does surprises me but... :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 20, 2013, 07:30:06 AM
Celtics and Clipps have re-opened trade talks.

A deal will be done this time around.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 20, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
http://www.celticslife.com/2013/06/clippers-to-give-up-two-first-rounders.html

Boston get: Deandre Jordan + 2 first round picks (likely to be in the 20s)
Clippers get: Doc Rivers + Kevin Garnett

Although I do think that Boston get some positives out of this deal, the positives the Clippers get totally outweigh what we get. Not a bad trade from our end, but Clipps benefit way too much. They are probably the team to beat in the West now with one of the best coaches in the league and now one of the best defenders than can hit the 18-footer (opening the paint up for Griffin and CP3)

If I was Danny Ainge I would force either Bledsoe to be included or make LA take on the contract of either Lee or Terry. We have all the leverage in this trade, the Clipps need it more than us yet Ainge is not using this to his advantage.

Needs to stay firm on either getting Bledsoe or getting Lee/Terry off the books to make it a decent trade. Otherwise it will be the showertest trade for a franchise since OKC trading Harden.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 20, 2013, 05:45:50 PM
"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 20, 2013, 06:05:43 PM
Im a paul and griffin fan and the Clippers are one of my favoruite teams.

If the trade happens I think I will have to make the Clippers my most disliked team in the comp, which is annoying.  If it happens

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5dmkrxfzt1qe1jwuo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 20, 2013, 06:12:20 PM
Good to have you on board Holz. A core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Jordan is mega exciting! The most athletic team in the league? :o Crazy how we have gone from seeming old and lifeless to young and energetic!

"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG

When? Where? What? SOURCE?

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 20, 2013, 06:22:05 PM
Good to have you on board Holz. A core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Jordan is mega exciting! The most athletic team in the league? :o Crazy how we have gone from seeming old and lifeless to young and energetic!

"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG

When? Where? What? SOURCE?

Yeah if it happens Celtics will be one of the teams i go for.

I like rondo and deandre isnt that good a player but he is exciting and would work well with rondo.  Sully i dont think is as good as you say, he could be but there are lots of guys who turn bust who were better than he is.

Bradley is a great defender but needs to work on an offensive side. The issue with the team is there is nobody to score points. Rondo isnt a scorer, bradley has no offense and deandre cant generate his own score, will get some nice alley oops though.

They need and out and out scorer.  Lebron James 2014 ;)

how do you like someone like J Smooth joining the Cletics, Jay?

only 27 and has got star quality. Issue is he needs a tough coach and Doc would have been it. Is a very very good defedner and with the best defensvie back court and JSmooth a beast on D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 20, 2013, 06:29:49 PM
Good to have you on board Holz. A core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Jordan is mega exciting! The most athletic team in the league? :o Crazy how we have gone from seeming old and lifeless to young and energetic!

"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG

When? Where? What? SOURCE?

Yeah if it happens Celtics will be one of the teams i go for.

I like rondo and deandre isnt that good a player but he is exciting and would work well with rondo.  Sully i dont think is as good as you say, he could be but there are lots of guys who turn bust who were better than he is.

Bradley is a great defender but needs to work on an offensive side. The issue with the team is there is nobody to score points. Rondo isnt a scorer, bradley has no offense and deandre cant generate his own score, will get some nice alley oops though.

They need and out and out scorer.  Lebron James 2014 ;)

how do you like someone like J Smooth joining the Cletics, Jay?

only 27 and has got star quality. Issue is he needs a tough coach and Doc would have been it. Is a very very good defedner and with the best defensvie back court and JSmooth a beast on D
I like this new Holz! :P

Defense would be no problem for this team, but as you say, we will struggle to score points. Ainge will not go into the season with this is his starting 5 unless he is tanking for draft picks. I think the reason he is trading Doc + KG and going to buy out Paul Pierce is to make way for... Yep you guessed it! Josh Smith...

He gives us the scorer we need along with Rondo and Jeff Green!

Rondo, Bradley, Green, Smith, Jordan

That is the most exciting team in the league!

And onto Jared Sullinger, yes I hype him up A LOT but he is a great hustle player and was our best rebounder last season. Has a nice midrange jumpshot too. He is a safe draft pick that will not be a bust. I believe he will be a 10 and 10 player for a long time if given opportunity.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 20, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
Good to have you on board Holz. A core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Jordan is mega exciting! The most athletic team in the league? :o Crazy how we have gone from seeming old and lifeless to young and energetic!

"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG

When? Where? What? SOURCE?

Yeah if it happens Celtics will be one of the teams i go for.

I like rondo and deandre isnt that good a player but he is exciting and would work well with rondo.  Sully i dont think is as good as you say, he could be but there are lots of guys who turn bust who were better than he is.

Bradley is a great defender but needs to work on an offensive side. The issue with the team is there is nobody to score points. Rondo isnt a scorer, bradley has no offense and deandre cant generate his own score, will get some nice alley oops though.

They need and out and out scorer.  Lebron James 2014 ;)

how do you like someone like J Smooth joining the Cletics, Jay?

only 27 and has got star quality. Issue is he needs a tough coach and Doc would have been it. Is a very very good defedner and with the best defensvie back court and JSmooth a beast on D
I like this new Holz! :P

Defense would be no problem for this team, but as you say, we will struggle to score points. Ainge will not go into the season with this is his starting 5 unless he is tanking for draft picks. I think the reason he is trading Doc + KG and going to buy out Paul Pierce is to make way for... Yep you guessed it! Josh Smith...

He gives us the scorer we need along with Rondo and Jeff Green!

Rondo, Bradley, Green, Smith, Jordan

That is the most exciting team in the league!

And onto Jared Sullinger, yes I hype him up A LOT but he is a great hustle player and was our best rebounder last season. Has a nice midrange jumpshot too. He is a safe draft pick that will not be a bust. I believe he will be a 10 and 10 player for a long time if given opportunity.

If thus happens the thread will be a lot less interesting next year.

12/13 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

12/13 hold starts big argument

13/14 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

13/14 holz agrees and spouts Celtic fan boy comments while going on to say LeBron better.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 20, 2013, 08:30:52 PM
Good to have you on board Holz. A core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Jordan is mega exciting! The most athletic team in the league? :o Crazy how we have gone from seeming old and lifeless to young and energetic!

"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG

When? Where? What? SOURCE?

Yeah if it happens Celtics will be one of the teams i go for.

I like rondo and deandre isnt that good a player but he is exciting and would work well with rondo.  Sully i dont think is as good as you say, he could be but there are lots of guys who turn bust who were better than he is.

Bradley is a great defender but needs to work on an offensive side. The issue with the team is there is nobody to score points. Rondo isnt a scorer, bradley has no offense and deandre cant generate his own score, will get some nice alley oops though.

They need and out and out scorer.  Lebron James 2014 ;)

how do you like someone like J Smooth joining the Cletics, Jay?

only 27 and has got star quality. Issue is he needs a tough coach and Doc would have been it. Is a very very good defedner and with the best defensvie back court and JSmooth a beast on D
I like this new Holz! :P

Defense would be no problem for this team, but as you say, we will struggle to score points. Ainge will not go into the season with this is his starting 5 unless he is tanking for draft picks. I think the reason he is trading Doc + KG and going to buy out Paul Pierce is to make way for... Yep you guessed it! Josh Smith...

He gives us the scorer we need along with Rondo and Jeff Green!

Rondo, Bradley, Green, Smith, Jordan

That is the most exciting team in the league!

And onto Jared Sullinger, yes I hype him up A LOT but he is a great hustle player and was our best rebounder last season. Has a nice midrange jumpshot too. He is a safe draft pick that will not be a bust. I believe he will be a 10 and 10 player for a long time if given opportunity.

If thus happens the thread will be a lot less interesting next year.

12/13 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

12/13 hold starts big argument

13/14 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

13/14 holz agrees and spouts Celtic fan boy comments while going on to say LeBron better.
Imagine if Lebron did go to Boston lol. I could not even imagine my reaction - like I would probably pass out and have no idea what to think. Would probably end up loving Lebron :o Imagine Rondo and Lebron...

I am getting excited for the future! Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sully, Jordan. With all the spare cash, we could get J-Smoove. flower we would have 90% of the e.o.s highlight real :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 20, 2013, 08:33:11 PM
Good to have you on board Holz. A core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Jordan is mega exciting! The most athletic team in the league? :o Crazy how we have gone from seeming old and lifeless to young and energetic!

"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG

When? Where? What? SOURCE?

Yeah if it happens Celtics will be one of the teams i go for.

I like rondo and deandre isnt that good a player but he is exciting and would work well with rondo.  Sully i dont think is as good as you say, he could be but there are lots of guys who turn bust who were better than he is.

Bradley is a great defender but needs to work on an offensive side. The issue with the team is there is nobody to score points. Rondo isnt a scorer, bradley has no offense and deandre cant generate his own score, will get some nice alley oops though.

They need and out and out scorer.  Lebron James 2014 ;)

how do you like someone like J Smooth joining the Cletics, Jay?

only 27 and has got star quality. Issue is he needs a tough coach and Doc would have been it. Is a very very good defedner and with the best defensvie back court and JSmooth a beast on D
I like this new Holz! :P

Defense would be no problem for this team, but as you say, we will struggle to score points. Ainge will not go into the season with this is his starting 5 unless he is tanking for draft picks. I think the reason he is trading Doc + KG and going to buy out Paul Pierce is to make way for... Yep you guessed it! Josh Smith...

He gives us the scorer we need along with Rondo and Jeff Green!

Rondo, Bradley, Green, Smith, Jordan

That is the most exciting team in the league!

And onto Jared Sullinger, yes I hype him up A LOT but he is a great hustle player and was our best rebounder last season. Has a nice midrange jumpshot too. He is a safe draft pick that will not be a bust. I believe he will be a 10 and 10 player for a long time if given opportunity.

If thus happens the thread will be a lot less interesting next year.

12/13 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

12/13 hold starts big argument

13/14 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

13/14 holz agrees and spouts Celtic fan boy comments while going on to say LeBron better.
Imagine if Lebron did go to Boston lol. I could not even imagine my reaction - like I would probably pass out and have no idea what to think. Would probably end up loving Lebron :o Imagine Rondo and Lebron...

I am getting excited for the future! Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sully, Jordan. With all the spare cash, we could get J-Smoove. flower we would have 90% of the e.o.s highlight real :o

If LeBron does go there we will agree on everything

Can they afford rondo jsmooth James Jordan Bradley sully green?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 20, 2013, 08:36:55 PM
Good to have you on board Holz. A core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Jordan is mega exciting! The most athletic team in the league? :o Crazy how we have gone from seeming old and lifeless to young and energetic!

"Don't listen to the news, I'm the Big Ticket and I'm staying in Boston!" - KG

When? Where? What? SOURCE?

Yeah if it happens Celtics will be one of the teams i go for.

I like rondo and deandre isnt that good a player but he is exciting and would work well with rondo.  Sully i dont think is as good as you say, he could be but there are lots of guys who turn bust who were better than he is.

Bradley is a great defender but needs to work on an offensive side. The issue with the team is there is nobody to score points. Rondo isnt a scorer, bradley has no offense and deandre cant generate his own score, will get some nice alley oops though.

They need and out and out scorer.  Lebron James 2014 ;)

how do you like someone like J Smooth joining the Cletics, Jay?

only 27 and has got star quality. Issue is he needs a tough coach and Doc would have been it. Is a very very good defedner and with the best defensvie back court and JSmooth a beast on D
I like this new Holz! :P

Defense would be no problem for this team, but as you say, we will struggle to score points. Ainge will not go into the season with this is his starting 5 unless he is tanking for draft picks. I think the reason he is trading Doc + KG and going to buy out Paul Pierce is to make way for... Yep you guessed it! Josh Smith...

He gives us the scorer we need along with Rondo and Jeff Green!

Rondo, Bradley, Green, Smith, Jordan

That is the most exciting team in the league!

And onto Jared Sullinger, yes I hype him up A LOT but he is a great hustle player and was our best rebounder last season. Has a nice midrange jumpshot too. He is a safe draft pick that will not be a bust. I believe he will be a 10 and 10 player for a long time if given opportunity.

If thus happens the thread will be a lot less interesting next year.

12/13 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

12/13 hold starts big argument

13/14 jay spouts Celtic fanboy comments

13/14 holz agrees and spouts Celtic fan boy comments while going on to say LeBron better.
Imagine if Lebron did go to Boston lol. I could not even imagine my reaction - like I would probably pass out and have no idea what to think. Would probably end up loving Lebron :o Imagine Rondo and Lebron...

I am getting excited for the future! Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sully, Jordan. With all the spare cash, we could get J-Smoove. flower we would have 90% of the e.o.s highlight real :o

If LeBron does go there we will agree on everything

Can they afford rondo jsmooth James Jordan Bradley sully green?
Maybe, just sign our bench for league minimum, wont need them anyway :P

That is a threepeat lineup right there. But reckon its only one of Smith and Lebron lol.

Hopefully we get Josh Smith this season though so we can beat Lebron again.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on June 21, 2013, 12:03:46 PM
9 pages in this thread and I come to this conclusion

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KINGS
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on June 21, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
Man, I wish so f*cking much that we won that series and TD could retire as champ.

Anyway, I think if these finals series have proved anything it's that Kawhi Leonard is one of the most talented youngsters in the NBA. He absolutely killed it in his first NBA finals. Watch him take over has the Spurs franchise.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 21, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
Ainge's ass has been saved. Stern has blocked the trade, yay.

Man, I wish so f*cking much that we won that series and TD could retire as champ.

Anyway, I think if these finals series have proved anything it's that Kawhi Leonard is one of the most talented youngsters in the NBA. He absolutely killed it in his first NBA finals. Watch him take over has the Spurs franchise.
Hopefully he doesn't miss more championship winning free throws ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 22, 2013, 05:26:45 AM
Ainge's ass has been saved. Stern has blocked the trade, yay.

Man, I wish so f*cking much that we won that series and TD could retire as champ.

Anyway, I think if these finals series have proved anything it's that Kawhi Leonard is one of the most talented youngsters in the NBA. He absolutely killed it in his first NBA finals. Watch him take over has the Spurs franchise.
Hopefully he doesn't miss more championship winning free throws ::)

Thats rough Jayman, that kid played out of his skin... dont forget Paul George, those two proved they have a high ceiling...

Blake Griffin's game doesnt translate to playoffs, his jump shot is average at best and if u keep him out of the paint what else does he offer? #D'AntoniGuy :D

Pretty sure we will move Bosh out somehow, probably looking for 2-3 higher quality role players, not a big name imo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 22, 2013, 07:49:06 AM
Sorry, not sure if my sarcasm showed through that post. Lol

These playoff proved Leonard is on of the best rebounding SFs in the league! He plays great D and I thought he did well on Lebron. Woulda like to have seen Diaw on Lebron more.

Kawhi is the future of the Spurs and will be an allstar. Not gonna say he shouldnt have missed THE free throw though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 22, 2013, 09:03:21 AM
Young Blood's relish the opportunity to play on him, u could see it Paul George's demeanor in the ECF...

Wish Kawhi played like that during the regular season, late round pick on most of my fantasy teams
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 22, 2013, 10:09:19 AM
PG24 gained the respect of the best player in the world in that series.

Top 5 player for years to come.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 22, 2013, 10:22:46 AM
Ainge and Doc met with the press at noon, boston time. Apparently Doc aint interested in coaching the Clippers. Thats good! Means KG will stay :D

As for PP? I got no flowering idea whats happening. Latest rumour is trade him to Cavs for 2 picks in the 30s. flower dat shower. Aint nobody got time fo dat.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 22, 2013, 11:59:20 AM
Ainge and Doc met with the press at noon, boston time. Apparently Doc aint interested in coaching the Clippers. Thats good! Means KG will stay :D

As for PP? I got no flowering idea whats happening. Latest rumour is trade him to Cavs for 2 picks in the 30s. flower dat shower. Aint nobody got time fo dat.

Surely they could have ticked the Doc aint interested box before all these discussions were bantered about :o

I dont blame Doc for not wanting to go, i love CP3 but Griffin is just a regular season highlight reel...

CP3 needs a real big man (Marc Gasol type) and some legitimate shooting around him imo...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 22, 2013, 01:27:08 PM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9410714
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 25, 2013, 11:40:44 AM
Paul Pierce better not go to the Cavs if he does,

watch me rage.

would mean I have to turn on my second favourite team and probbaly stop Lebron coming in 2015.

They should pick up Mclemore or Len and than have the cap space to target FA in 2015.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on June 25, 2013, 09:02:52 PM
Holy. Watch out for Z-Wade

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=620946357918362&set=vb.215317338498946&type=2&theater
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 25, 2013, 09:51:51 PM
Holy. Watch out for Z-Wade

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=620946357918362&set=vb.215317338498946&type=2&theater

The kid is good, would school me.

He knows it though: good genes, basketball upbringing and lots of cash the potential is there.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on June 26, 2013, 07:42:25 AM
PG24 gained the respect of the best player in the world in that series.

Top 5 player for years to come.

I knew that he could be a top 5 player start of this year, is a gun.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 26, 2013, 08:16:47 PM
Guess who's back? (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/andrew-bynum-past-knee-woes-223125332.html)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on June 26, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
Guess who's back? (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/andrew-bynum-past-knee-woes-223125332.html)
Should the sixers keep him?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 26, 2013, 09:33:47 PM
Guess who's back? (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/andrew-bynum-past-knee-woes-223125332.html)
Should the sixers keep him?
They should, Jrue + Bynum + maybe Turner = top 5 in East.

Think he'll leave though. Mavs?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 26, 2013, 10:44:16 PM
Mavs are on the way down he should aim to stay
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 27, 2013, 09:46:15 AM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9423005/los-angeles-clippers-discussing-trading-eric-bledsoe-orlando-magic-sources

Bledsoe for Afflalo, Nicholson and future first rounder...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 27, 2013, 12:19:40 PM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9427197/doc-rivers-different-task-los-angeles-clippers

Rivers to Clippers so who now for Boston?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on June 27, 2013, 01:56:41 PM
9 pages in this thread and I come to this conclusion

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KINGS

OH YEH!!

Shaq is going to tutor DMC - LOOK OUT
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 27, 2013, 01:57:12 PM
Hollins, Karl or Ainge will coach Boston imo, but I am not sure.

Decent trade Marcz... Clipps need the perimeter D + 3 ball
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 27, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
Hollins, Karl or Ainge will coach Boston imo, but I am not sure.

Decent trade Marcz... Clipps need the perimeter D + 3 ball

agreed, as previously stated, they needed legit perimeter scoring to help space the floor...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 27, 2013, 11:04:11 PM
We all knew this was most likely, what with Howard being a big sook and the tantrum he threw against SA that said im out...

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9427945/los-angeles-lakers-not-likely-re-sign-dwight-howard-sources-say
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 28, 2013, 12:13:19 AM
NBA Draft on tomorrow
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2013, 12:53:39 PM
Paul Pierce - Gone
Kevin Garnett - Gone
Ray Allen - Gone
Doc Rivers - Gone
Kendrick Perkins - Gone
Rajon Rondo - Still here

Only one member remains from the 2008 championship team.

And this one member will lead us to the promised land again. This is Rondo's team! He is our future, and I KNOW that he will DELIVER!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on June 28, 2013, 01:45:46 PM
Paul Pierce - Gone
Kevin Garnett - Gone
Ray Allen - Gone
Doc Rivers - Gone
Kendrick Perkins - Gone
Rajon Rondo - Still here

Only one member remains from the 2008 championship team.

And this one member will lead us to the promised land again. This is Rondo's team! He is our future, and I KNOW that he will DELIVER!

Rondo is a great passer. He has nobody to pass too, not looking good at the moment.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2013, 01:48:14 PM
Paul Pierce - Gone
Kevin Garnett - Gone
Ray Allen - Gone
Doc Rivers - Gone
Kendrick Perkins - Gone
Rajon Rondo - Still here

Only one member remains from the 2008 championship team.

And this one member will lead us to the promised land again. This is Rondo's team! He is our future, and I KNOW that he will DELIVER!

Rondo is a great passer. He has nobody to pass too, not looking good at the moment.
Jeff Green is a top 10 scorer at will average 20+ this season.

#TankForWiggins
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 28, 2013, 02:09:41 PM
LOL JAY!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
OH FLOWER NO, THIS IS WAY TO MUCH. WORST PIC I HAVE EVER SEEN ARGGGGHHHHH

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/931193_474327305979053_10823867_n.jpg)

Oh and go flower yourself Cic
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 28, 2013, 02:25:30 PM
you are the one crying over Ainge's abilities
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2013, 02:35:38 PM
you are the one crying over Ainge's abilities
Ainge is a shower cow, I should be GM.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on June 28, 2013, 02:41:57 PM
well another reason not to buy 2k14 then eh?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 28, 2013, 03:25:14 PM
I guess in a way it is difficulty for Ainge to find a better deal being they have no trade clauses in their contracts...

Could they be better off just culling their contracts so they dont have to pay Wallace/Humphries etc :-\
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on June 28, 2013, 03:27:05 PM
I guess in a way it is difficulty for Ainge to find a better deal being they have no trade clauses in their contracts...

Could they be better off just culling their contracts so they dont have to pay Wallace/Humphries etc :-\
Depends on how long they are. Out of all teams to trade to they deal with New Jersey.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2013, 03:31:18 PM
Humphries expires after this season but Gerald Wallace 30m over 3 years....... WHY
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 28, 2013, 03:35:13 PM
Move Wallace on with another deal? he is a really bad player to acquire, he was such a banger that his body is now broken
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2013, 03:37:29 PM
Move Wallace on with another deal? he is a really bad player to acquire, he was such a banger that his body is now broken
Wallace must go, can he be a part of getting Josh Smith?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on June 28, 2013, 05:24:25 PM
http://www.celticslife.com/2013/06/video-legacy-of-paul-pierce.html
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on June 29, 2013, 08:23:53 AM
http://www.celticslife.com/2013/06/video-legacy-of-paul-pierce.html

Rekn there was enuf in that to explain why they r splitsville now, he didnt want to "sink into quicksand" again...

Sad that its the nature of the business, like when Emmitt Smith left the Dallas Cowboys and became an Arizona Cardinal :-[ :'( :-[
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 08, 2013, 12:46:20 AM
Good to see my man Kelly Olynyk tearing up in our first summer league game.

He has size, range and defense 8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 08, 2013, 02:47:10 AM
the top draft picks have all done well in the first day of summer league
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 08, 2013, 09:15:18 AM
A good recap of our 1st Summer League game. Boy oh boy Kelly Olynyk ;D



Celtics rookie Kelly Olynyk scored a game-high 25 points on 9-of-11 shooting with seven rebounds over 27 minutes, while swingman Tony Mitchell added 16 points help pace the Celtics' offense. Fab Melo scored nine points and grabbed eight rebounds over 28 minutes, overcoming a sluggish start. Boston shot nearly 50 percent from the floor, but turned the ball over 23 times (both Olynyk and backup point guard Phil Pressey with a team-high five turnovers apiece).

SLOW START, STRONG FINISH FOR MELO
Second-year center Melo, who spent much of last season in the D-League, had an unimpressive first half in which he displayed much of the same limitations that were evident a year ago when Boston drafted him. He was better in the second half, producing a nice reach-back block on Magic rookie Victor Oladipo and finishing around the basket a couple times. He's still incredibly raw.

COACH SULLINGER
Jared Sullinger, in town to do conditioning work as part of his rehab from back surgery, played the role of assistant coach. He offered words of advice and encouragement to fellow young big men Olynyk and Melo, while also joining the coaches in the huddle during timeouts.

STARTERS IN FOCUS
The Celtics opened with a starting lineup featuring Olynyk, Fab Melo, Mitchell, Nolan Smith, and Darius Johnson-Odom. Smith, the Duke product who has spent the past two seasons with the Trail Blazers, had a couple early buckets before suffering a right leg injury. He limped off with trainer Ed Lacerte and did not return. Olynyk was the biggest bright spot on Day 1, scoring 17 first-half points on 7-of-8 shooting over 12:22. He did battle foul trouble, but his debut would not be cut short as there is no fouling out of summer league play.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 08, 2013, 11:23:50 AM
the top draft picks have all done well in the first day of summer league
I heard Trey Burke shot 1-10 from the field or something like that  :-\
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 08, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
Michael Carter-Williams had 26 points, 7 boards 8 assists. Looks good on the surface, but if you dig deeper he shot 8-23 and had 9 turnovers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on July 08, 2013, 11:37:27 AM
He also didn't hit a shot from outside. I think it was 0-9 for 3's

It fits perfectly into Philly's tanking strategy. Their best shooters are Thad and JRich  :o

Edit: Make it 0-6 from 3 point range
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 08, 2013, 01:55:14 PM
the top draft picks have all done well in the first day of summer league
I heard Trey Burke shot 1-10 from the field or something like that  :-\

there is always the exception.....  :-[
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 08, 2013, 06:59:01 PM
Olynyk the next Dirk :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 10, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
Olynyk the next Dirk :P
glad u threw in the :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 10, 2013, 10:57:08 AM
Olynyk has been the best player in the summer league by a long way
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 10, 2013, 10:59:49 AM
Olynyk has been the best player in the summer league by a long way

Keep in mind that not all teams have played yet. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 10, 2013, 11:01:48 AM
yeah i know still 3 days until the Las Vegas Summer League
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 10, 2013, 11:21:26 AM
yeah i know still 3 days until the Las Vegas Summer League

And the arrival of Ben McLemore
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 10, 2013, 11:28:25 AM
yeah i know still 3 days until the Las Vegas Summer League

And the arrival of Ben McLemore

its almost time for the 2014 ROY of the year to shine.

Has benett played yet? he better be good as Mclemore will be
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 10, 2013, 11:33:25 AM
Bennett should be solid - I was hoping he would slide to the Kings at #7 but very happy that McLemore did.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 11, 2013, 01:36:26 PM
Dirk Nowitzki has been tearin up the summer league!!! Oh wait that's not Dirk, it's Kelly Olynyk :D

Boy oh boy hasn't he impressed! Think his ROY odds would have shortened considerably #geton
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 11, 2013, 03:13:19 PM
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Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 11, 2013, 03:16:16 PM
Welcome to the Lottery Jayman. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 12, 2013, 09:41:42 AM
are you serious Valk? if Olynyk produces have as good as he has for them in the summer league they will make 5th seed
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 12, 2013, 09:43:57 AM
are you serious Valk? if Olynyk produces have as good as he has for them in the summer league they will make 5th seed

not going to happen.

also bad news jay staying with Cavs and Miami the other 30 teams are the enemy ,so Celtics are back in my bad books.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 12, 2013, 09:46:42 AM
are you serious Valk? if Olynyk produces have as good as he has for them in the summer league they will make 5th seed

2 players dont make you a 5th seed - END OF STORY (unless those 2 players are Jordan and Jordan)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 09:53:16 AM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 12, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.

thats good because he has one now.

celtic love is over, back to a hater
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 10:09:58 AM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.

thats good because he has one now.

celtic love is over, back to a hater
I think we have a different definition of shower. I dont consider having one of the best young starting fives in the league, shower.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 12, 2013, 10:32:41 AM
Drummond has been dominating the weaker opposition. Summer record of 18 boards to go along with 23 points+2 blocks & steals..  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on July 12, 2013, 12:53:33 PM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.
with Garnett gone, who guards the post ?

i don't think Boston will make the playoffs
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 12, 2013, 12:57:42 PM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.

thats good because he has one now.

celtic love is over, back to a hater
I think we have a different definition of shower. I dont consider having one of the best young starting fives in the league, shower.

dont think they have the best.

Irving Waiters Bennett Thomspon Bynum prefer that one :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 12:59:39 PM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.
with Garnett gone, who guards the post ?

i don't think Boston will make the playoffs
Going to be a combination of Bass, Olynyk and Sully. Randolph provides decent boards off the bench if given minutes and god forbid, Fab Melo may be given time :(

I think we'll miss the playoffs too but we'll play some good small ball this season 8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 12, 2013, 01:01:02 PM
Can't see Boston getting to the playoffs either. They are in rebuild mode now.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 01:03:21 PM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.

thats good because he has one now.

celtic love is over, back to a hater
I think we have a different definition of shower. I dont consider having one of the best young starting fives in the league, shower.

dont think they have the best.

Irving Waiters Bennett Thomspon Bynum prefer that one :)
Rondo > Irving
Bradley > Waiters
Green > Bennett
Sully = Thompson
Olynyk < Bynum

We win :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 12, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
Olynyk > Bynum  :P

He has shown more than Bynum in the past 12 months. Apart from crazy hair styles...But then again... :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 12, 2013, 01:13:02 PM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.

thats good because he has one now.

celtic love is over, back to a hater
I think we have a different definition of shower. I dont consider having one of the best young starting fives in the league, shower.

dont think they have the best.

Irving Waiters Bennett Thomspon Bynum prefer that one :)
Rondo > Irving
Bradley > Waiters
Green > Bennett
Sully = Thompson
Olynyk < Bynum

We win :)

please.

good thing they are both in the east. We can see who finsihes higher. Assuming no irving injury im very comfratable tipping the cavs over the Cs

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.

thats good because he has one now.

celtic love is over, back to a hater
I think we have a different definition of shower. I dont consider having one of the best young starting fives in the league, shower.

dont think they have the best.

Irving Waiters Bennett Thomspon Bynum prefer that one :)
Rondo > Irving
Bradley > Waiters
Green > Bennett
Sully = Thompson
Olynyk < Bynum

We win :)

please.

good thing they are both in the east. We can see who finsihes higher. Assuming no irving injury im very comfratable tipping the cavs over the Cs
I would tip Cavs to finish higher than us too only because of....... BYNUM
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 12, 2013, 01:19:05 PM
Boston will be almost as good as last year. Its tough, we arent good enough for a title but we arent bad enough for a top lottery pick.

Just gotta stick with the core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Olynyk, Sully and then gradually open up cap space to sign another star.

I like where we are headed 8) especially under Brad Stevens! This guy will be a top 5 coach, just look at his college stats. Worked wonders with a shower team.

thats good because he has one now.

celtic love is over, back to a hater
I think we have a different definition of shower. I dont consider having one of the best young starting fives in the league, shower.

dont think they have the best.

Irving Waiters Bennett Thomspon Bynum prefer that one :)
Rondo > Irving
Bradley > Waiters
Green > Bennett
Sully = Thompson
Olynyk < Bynum

We win :)

please.

good thing they are both in the east. We can see who finsihes higher. Assuming no irving injury im very comfratable tipping the cavs over the Cs
I would tip Cabs to finish higher than us too only because of....... BYNUM

I forgot  Jarrett Jack  a 7 footer in Tyler Zeller and just picked up Earl Clark
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 12, 2013, 02:03:53 PM
Jarret Jack is handy as hell coming off the bench!

How's Rondo's recovery going anyway Jayman? Will he be back by the start of the season?



http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bulls-dwight-howard-bolting-l-puts-end-193400669.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bulls-dwight-howard-bolting-l-puts-end-193400669.html)

Lakers fans may not want to read this, but I found it incredibly accurate.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 02:55:26 PM
Ainge said Rondo will be right for day 1 of the season. Great news! Must be going well with his recovery :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 02:56:29 PM
Holy shower! Anyone else seen this? Crazy... Not saying NBA is rigged but this is mad :o

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/969893_682509445099475_1639477615_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 12, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
Wow, that is uncanny :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 12, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
Only thing inacurate was saying Dallas were a defensive minded team. Apart from that, spot on!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 12, 2013, 03:15:01 PM
Only thing inacurate was saying Dallas were a defensive minded team. Apart from that, spot on!

that is crazy,

however 2014. Heat Three Peat

so there is the difference
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 13, 2013, 08:47:03 AM
Jarret Jack is handy as hell coming off the bench!

How's Rondo's recovery going anyway Jayman? Will he be back by the start of the season?



http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bulls-dwight-howard-bolting-l-puts-end-193400669.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bulls-dwight-howard-bolting-l-puts-end-193400669.html)

Lakers fans may not want to read this, but I found it incredibly accurate.

Kobe will never be on MJ's level, has only one MVP and two Finals MVP's, illustrates he hasnt always been the most dominant player...

He is great but only one MVP is damning, he has a teammate who has more :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 13, 2013, 08:51:30 AM
Monta to Dallas
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9473581/monta-ellis-deal-dallas-mavericks-sources

MWP stays crazy
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9474115/metta-world-peace-says-nba-not-option-next-season

Deal becomes official, Nets r now the deepest team in the league no question
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9473403/kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-jason-terry-trade-brooklyn-nets-official

Player Tracker Bracket (Easy on the eye)
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/transactions-13-14/2013-14-nba-player-movement-tracker

Got a laugh out of this... SCSA is from Texas too :P
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/36490_10151711786941100_2028153126_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 13, 2013, 09:55:00 AM
Kobe was 2 finals MVPs from 7 appearances. MJ was 6 finals MVPs from 6 appearances. That simply says Jordan > Kobe



Pierce and KG are now officially Nets :'(

Nets get:
Kevin Garnett
Paul Pierce
Jason Terry
D.J. White.

Celtics get:
Kris Humphries
Gerald Wallace
Kris Joseph
Keith Bogans
Marshon Brooks
3 1st round picks (opt to swap '17 pick.)


Look at their depth chart:
PG: Deron Williams (1st) + Shaun Livingston (2nd) + Tyshawn Taylor (3rd)
SG: Joe Johnson (1st) + Jason Terry (2nd)
SF: Paul Pierce (1st)+ Andrei Kirilenko (2nd) + Tornike Shengelia (3rd)
PF: Kevin Garnett (1st) + Reggie Evans (2nd) + Mirza Teletovic (3rd)
C: Brook Lopez (1st) + Andray Blatche (2nd) + Mason Plumlee (3rd)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 13, 2013, 10:12:52 AM
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Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 13, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
That's disprectfel jay Allen should be in that picture you don't get 17 without him
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 13, 2013, 09:38:36 PM
That's disprectfel jay Allen should be in that picture you don't get 17 without him
Ray doesnt deserve respect. He CHOSE to leave, Paul and KG wanted to retire as a Celtic but got traded. Ray did not want to stay and left to the arch rival. He used PP and KG to get a ring and then left!

Just sad the 2 legends couldnt retire in the place they wanted. Definitely deserved it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 14, 2013, 10:14:21 AM
Errr idk about that Jayman, they waived their no trade clause, they didnt want to retire a Celtic :-X
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 14, 2013, 12:25:13 PM
Errr idk about that Jayman, they waived their no trade clause, they didnt want to retire a Celtic :-X
Pierce had no clause... KG had one but Ainge clearly didnt want him there and traded him for spuds so why would he stay?

KG himself said yesterday that they both wanted to retire in Boston.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 14, 2013, 12:31:40 PM
Allen is a mercenary.

Rejected a 12 million dollar deal with C's to go play for the Heat for less money, just for a ring.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 14, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
In Ben McLemore's NBA debut today he shoot 4-23 which included 1-11 for 3's he finished with 11 points 5 rebounds and 2 steals in 31 minutes.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 14, 2013, 02:11:18 PM
Allen is a mercenary.

Rejected a 12 million dollar deal with C's to go play for the Heat for less money, just for a ring.

Got constantly put on the trade table was actually told he wad traded before the other rmteam pulled out. Had issues with rondo and was constantly disrespected with them insuinating the big 3 was intact a big 2.

There are lots of reasons why he left a big one is the heat respect him and the Celtic don't. Heat give him the respect he deserves and he delivered. He has two to rings  now and the heat one has a lot to do with him

Allen is a superstar who justs want to ball
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 14, 2013, 06:31:35 PM
In Ben McLemore's NBA debut today he shoot 4-23 which included 1-11 for 3's he finished with 11 points 5 rebounds and 2 steals in 31 minutes.

Yeh I saw that, he got to the right places - just his shot wasnt on today
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 15, 2013, 09:56:03 AM
Allen is a mercenary.

Rejected a 12 million dollar deal with C's to go play for the Heat for less money, just for a ring.

Someone should have told Barkley and Malone thats how ya get a ring :P BTW Windi i love how u say Just for a Ring :D


MWP stays crazy
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9474115/metta-world-peace-says-nba-not-option-next-season

Metta doing his best Dwight Howard impersonation
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9477347/source-metta-world-peace-hoping-join-new-york-knicks

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 15, 2013, 12:08:59 PM
Haha, well since I've never played NBA and can only imagine what winning a championship means.... The moneys (12 million) looks mighty tempting to me.  :P

But it was clear that Allen went to Miami to get a ring, nothing more.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 15, 2013, 12:13:39 PM
Haha, well since I've never played NBA and can only imagine what winning a championship means.... The moneys (12 million) looks mighty tempting to me.  :P

But it was clear that Allen went to Miami to get a ring, nothing more.  :P

im sure money means nothing to him at this stage.

He went to Miami for a ring, but he didnt leave the cetlics because of the ring. He left because of issues with the celtics and if you were going to leave wouldnt it be smart to go to the best team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 15, 2013, 12:16:46 PM
True, thinking about it. He probably has millions stowed away anyway..  :P



Interesting with Chris Paul though, he signed a max deal with the Clippers, making me think that he wants money over a ring. I don't think he will win a championship with the clippers even with Rivers.  :-\
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 15, 2013, 12:22:54 PM
True, thinking about it. He probably has millions stowed away anyway..  :P



Interesting with Chris Paul though, he signed a max deal with the Clippers, making me think that he wants money over a ring. I don't think he will win a championship with the clippers even with Rivers.  :-\

yeah he is more about the money and fame you can just tell. Allen seems a pretty humble guy, i really think he just wants to go out there and enjoy his basketball.

i doubt they could fit under the cap but could paul have gone to houston?

get rid of lin. Paul Harden Parsons Howard thats pretty scary. Paul and Howard probably would have had to take a pay cut. Doc probably could have gone there too
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 15, 2013, 12:27:05 PM
I think the only place Paul & Dwight could have gone together was Atlanta? But I'm not sure.  :-\
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 15, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
I think the only place Paul & Dwight could have gone together was Atlanta? But I'm not sure.  :-\

yeah on max contracts, im sure they could have taken a cut and gone for a ring.

Melo could have waited to be a free agent and got to NY on a lower contract and get a ring. He choose the extra money.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 15, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9478509/dallas-mavericks-new-orleans-pelicans-sacramento-kings-meet-greg-oden-sources-say

Greg Oden will meet in Las Vegas this week with officials from the Dallas Mavericks, Sacramento Kings and the New Orleans Pelicans.

Oden has not formally worked out for any of the teams in the mix, but he has conducted meetings with several suitors.

The other two teams strongly interested in the former #1 overall pick: The Miami Heat & the San Antonio Spurs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 16, 2013, 03:16:27 PM
Would love him at San Antonio  8)

But if not hope he goes to the Pelicans.

Jrue
Gordon
Aminu
Davis
Oden

6th: Tyreke

Playoff team no doubt. Go the Pelicans! :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
Would love him at San Antonio  8)

But if not hope he goes to the Pelicans.

Jrue
Gordon
Aminu
Davis
Oden

6th: Tyreke

Playoff team no doubt. Go the Pelicans! :P

PG: Chalmers
SG: Wade
SF: James
PF: Bosh
C: Oden

6th: Allen

prefer that lineup, you would think they should make playoffs
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 16, 2013, 04:07:40 PM
PG: Cole
SG: Wade
SF: James
PF: Bosh
C: Oden

Allen
Anderson
Haslem
Miller
Chalmers

this is better
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 16, 2013, 04:20:26 PM
PG: Cole
SG: Wade
SF: James
PF: Bosh
C: Oden

Allen
Anderson
Haslem
Miller
Chalmers

this is better

this is even better 14/15

Irving
Waiters
James
Thompson
Bynum

room for another big addition too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 16, 2013, 04:21:12 PM
PG: Rondo/Bradley
SG: Bradley/Brooks/Lee/Crawford
SF: Green/Wallace/Lee
PF: Olynyk/Sullinger
C: Humphries/Olynyk

See you in the first round Lebron ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 16, 2013, 05:42:37 PM
Part of Oden's contract will be that he get's unlimited supply of suits, as he will be wearing a lot of them if he comes back.... :-X
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 17, 2013, 09:37:12 AM
Part of Oden's contract will be that he get's unlimited supply of suits, as he will be wearing a lot of them if he comes back.... :-X
Lol yep, nobody has made a "durable" return from Microfracture Surgery, Brandon Roy got a few games in but thats it
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 17, 2013, 05:08:15 PM
Move over Big 3, The Sad 3 Is Here!   :P

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/p320x320/1001522_401599993277208_1462071813_n.png)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on July 17, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
Hahahahahahaha

#whathavemyteamdone
#QforGM
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 17, 2013, 06:13:51 PM
Celtics acquired a 10million dollar trade exception in the nets deal! #hiddengem

Tbh I think we should hold Humphries. Solid boards and his contract is expiring.

Wallace has gotta go though... For anyone!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 17, 2013, 07:47:55 PM
One of the comments was a classic.

"Is that bald guy Ginobli?"  :P

Left bottom corner.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 18, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
Move over Big 3, The Sad 3 Is Here!   :P

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/p320x320/1001522_401599993277208_1462071813_n.png)

Jesus Christ Danny Ainge has aged 20 years in the last month :o

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9484776/los-angeles-lakers-eye-carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-2014

Has to be LeBron they r chasing, Melo loves money and NY so he aint goin no where but where he is...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 18, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
I reckon hold Humph tbh, top rebounder if given minutes (will in Boston) and his contract is expiring. Give him a chance I reckon! He has come in with a good attitude...
Quote
I'm excited to play with everyone, but having a chance to play with Rondo who's the ultimate point guard, can really pass, push the ball. I'm excited. I'm going to come in in great shape. I'm excited to get out there and run whenever he's ready to play.

Wallace will be nearly impossible to deal but would be awesome if we can.



Here's what Paul Pierce put on instagram.
(http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/paul-pierce-thank-you-boston.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 11:49:57 AM
Its not till 2014/15

but my team is back.

charlotte are changing their name to the hornetts. The reason for me having no loyalty was my team was dead but its back now.

they better go back to teal and purple, it was the reason i went for them when i was a kid.

(http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/6/256/full/3097.gif)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 19, 2013, 12:42:02 PM
Nice!!! pity they wont have all the history of the original Hornets tho... or will they :-\
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 19, 2013, 12:43:49 PM
Gonna be confusing with Charlotte and New Orleans. Lucky they are now the Pelicans ::)



Changed my mind, thought Brooklyn would be my 2nd fave team now but actually hoping they go ridiciulously shower so Boston get good draft picks! Got 3 first rounders from them, now have 9 first rounders over the next 5 years ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 19, 2013, 12:45:28 PM
Nice!!! pity they wont have all the history of the original Hornets tho... or will they :-\

yeah they arent really the ture hornets as they are now the pelicans. I dont know what the situation here is, do they say they go back to the original hornets.

as long as i see these im happy though.

(http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/CMS/image/charlotte%20hornets%20jersey.jpeg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 20, 2013, 10:16:43 AM
Nice!!! pity they wont have all the history of the original Hornets tho... or will they :-\

yeah they arent really the ture hornets as they are now the pelicans. I dont know what the situation here is, do they say they go back to the original hornets.

as long as i see these im happy though.

(http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/CMS/image/charlotte%20hornets%20jersey.jpeg)
8)

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlPSuM8f9TBWH7upR8sgDzvfVeAj9B5AByNEbX1gTBTbKpiUDWBg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 20, 2013, 11:11:11 AM
This vid is incredible if you want to look back at what a legacy Piece has left in Boston. Got me teary eyed. Some crazy shots in there! 3 over Harrington was epic and when he hurt his knee in the finals but came back to dominate the 2nd half! Still not sure how he slipped to pick 10 in the draft...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ftelBASlM
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 21, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
Love this graphic, sums it up well :)

(https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/970816_481810721907752_349831575_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 22, 2013, 03:29:56 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 22, 2013, 03:31:30 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 22, 2013, 03:32:50 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
still funny ::) :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 22, 2013, 03:33:53 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
still funny ::) :D
Not for me :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
yeah ray was pushed, KG chose to leave.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 22, 2013, 03:39:02 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
yeah ray was pushed, KG chose to leave.
Saying Ray didn't choose to leave? Ainge put a contract on the table for Ray, he didn't want it. KG wanted to stay but Ainge didn't want him there.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
yeah ray was pushed, KG chose to leave.
Saying Ray didn't choose to leave? Ainge put a contract on the table for Ray, he didn't want it. KG wanted to stay but Ainge didn't want him there.

I disagree.

KG left as the team was rebuilding and he wanted to join PP (fair enough)
Allen left as the club constanstly disrepected him offering him up for trades and pushing him out for bradley, plus issues with rondo (more than justified)

KG is a hypocrite
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 22, 2013, 04:22:49 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
yeah ray was pushed, KG chose to leave.
Saying Ray didn't choose to leave? Ainge put a contract on the table for Ray, he didn't want it. KG wanted to stay but Ainge didn't want him there.

I disagree.

KG left as the team was rebuilding and he wanted to join PP (fair enough)
Allen left as the club constanstly disrepected him offering him up for trades and pushing him out for bradley, plus issues with rondo (more than justified)

KG is a hypocrite
Danny Ainge constantly disrespected Pierce more so than Ray Allen... Lol Bradley has been better than Ray for a couple of years now!

KG is not a hyporcrite. Ray left during our championship run... KG and Pierce got traded and even then KG wanted to stay until Paul convinced him. Why would KG want to see if he had no PP and Ray was long gone? No shot at a title...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2013, 04:26:34 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
yeah ray was pushed, KG chose to leave.
Saying Ray didn't choose to leave? Ainge put a contract on the table for Ray, he didn't want it. KG wanted to stay but Ainge didn't want him there.

I disagree.

KG left as the team was rebuilding and he wanted to join PP (fair enough)
Allen left as the club constanstly disrepected him offering him up for trades and pushing him out for bradley, plus issues with rondo (more than justified)

KG is a hypocrite
Danny Ainge constantly disrespected Pierce more so than Ray Allen... Lol Bradley has been better than Ray for a couple of years now!

KG is not a hyporcrite. Ray left during our championship run... KG and Pierce got traded and even then KG wanted to stay until Paul convinced him. Why would KG want to see if he had no PP and Ray was long gone? No shot at a title...

you had no shot with allen last year, Allen is just smarter than KG and left the year before. I dont think he should get attacked for having a higher IQ.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 22, 2013, 04:29:01 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1069923_10200372422296635_1156276853_n.jpg)

This one is pretty cool too :P
Completely different situations ::)
yeah ray was pushed, KG chose to leave.
Saying Ray didn't choose to leave? Ainge put a contract on the table for Ray, he didn't want it. KG wanted to stay but Ainge didn't want him there.

I disagree.

KG left as the team was rebuilding and he wanted to join PP (fair enough)
Allen left as the club constanstly disrepected him offering him up for trades and pushing him out for bradley, plus issues with rondo (more than justified)

KG is a hypocrite
Danny Ainge constantly disrespected Pierce more so than Ray Allen... Lol Bradley has been better than Ray for a couple of years now!

KG is not a hyporcrite. Ray left during our championship run... KG and Pierce got traded and even then KG wanted to stay until Paul convinced him. Why would KG want to see if he had no PP and Ray was long gone? No shot at a title...

you had no shot with allen last year, Allen is just smarter than KG and left the year before. I dont think he should get attacked for having a higher IQ.
Yes we did... We took Miami to 7 games when we didnt have Green and Bradley!

Allen is less loyal and KG bleeds green. Thats the only difference.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 22, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
Yes we did... We took Miami to 7 games when we didnt have Green and Bradley!

Allen is less loyal and KG bleeds green. Thats the only difference.
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and the heat had no big man whatsover with no Bosh for most of the series and no birdman. This year it would have been 4-1 even with allen on your side.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 22, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
Yes we did... We took Miami to 7 games when we didnt have Green and Bradley!

Allen is less loyal and KG bleeds green. Thats the only difference.

and the heat had no big man whatsover with no Bosh for most of the series and no birdman. This year it would have been 4-1 even with allen on your side.
If we have everyone fit and Ray stayed we win in 7 :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 23, 2013, 01:32:09 PM
I dont think loyalty really exists in the NBA anymore, its a thing that resurfaces once a player retires and they tie their legacy to a period in time of their careers, interested to see what Jersey KG will rep into the HOF, Twolve or Celtic :-\

KG's behavior is absolutely hypocritical, he is going to a divisional rival, his whole tantrum was over who Ray went to so ???

One thing for sure im glad im not eating his humble pie/shower sandwich ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 23, 2013, 01:58:20 PM
I dont think loyalty really exists in the NBA anymore, its a thing that resurfaces once a player retires and they tie their legacy to a period in time of their careers, interested to see what Jersey KG will rep into the HOF, Twolve or Celtic :-\

KG's behavior is absolutely hypocritical, he is going to a divisional rival, his whole tantrum was over who Ray went to so ???

One thing for sure im glad im not eating his humble pie/shower sandwich ;D

exactly at least Ray went to a team in the south east divison, KG jumping over to an Alantic Division team is worse.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Just me or does anyone else think Brooklym will win the championship?

KG + Brolo PF/C combo will be absolutely perfect. KG gives great spacing giving Lopez room to move and finish at the basket. If they double then KG is gonna knock down that freethrow line extended jumper all day. Mark my words, he will turn Brolo into a top 3 centre in the league.

They have a good bench headlined by AK47, Terry, Blatche and Evans. They are deeeep.

All depends if they can gel but guys like KG an PP will do anything to win another title, they are so easily coachable and already have a relationship with Kidd.

Owner has forked out crazy momey for a reason...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on July 23, 2013, 04:15:43 PM
I doubt they'll even make CF...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 04:30:38 PM
I doubt they'll even make CF...
Dont get me wrong, I hope they lose every game but they have the best starting 5 in the NBA imo.

So many options they can go too and defense will be no problem with Garnett on the team...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
Marcz and Holz, if you would like to be proven wrong by highly respected NBA writers then read the following articles :)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1699357-worst-nba-free-agent-betrayals-in-the-last-decade/page/10
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1710405-should-celtics-fans-be-mad-paul-pierce-talked-kevin-garnett-into-nets-trade
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on July 23, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
I doubt they'll even make CF...
Dont get me wrong, I hope they lose every game but they have the best starting 5 in the NBA imo.

So many options they can go too and defense will be no problem with Garnett on the team...
Last seasons Lakers had a much better starting 5 IMO and they just squeezed into the playoffs. Games aren't won on paper, the Nets will need to gel and they won't have time for that considering their age. LeMiami didn't win it in their first season too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 04:51:26 PM
I doubt they'll even make CF...
Dont get me wrong, I hope they lose every game but they have the best starting 5 in the NBA imo.

So many options they can go too and defense will be no problem with Garnett on the team...
Last seasons Lakers had a much better starting 5 IMO and they just squeezed into the playoffs. Games aren't won on paper, the Nets will need to gel and they won't have time for that considering their age. LeMiami didn't win it in their first season too.
Boston did ;)

Yeah but I don't think you can really compare them! Think about the egos and personality of Kobe and Dwight that was never gonna work... D-Will, JJ, Pierce, KG and Lopez are all more low key and just want to win!

Also, I think D-Will will go to a new level now he has Kidd there!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on July 23, 2013, 05:16:20 PM
I still rate the Bulls and Heat more.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 05:29:08 PM
I still rate the Bulls and Heat more.
Pacers > Bulls
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 23, 2013, 07:48:28 PM
for next season at least

no one knows how good the Bulls will be when Rose gets back
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 23, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
Marcz and Holz, if you would like to be proven wrong by highly respected NBA writers then read the following articles :)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1699357-worst-nba-free-agent-betrayals-in-the-last-decade/page/10
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1710405-should-celtics-fans-be-mad-paul-pierce-talked-kevin-garnett-into-nets-trade

got nothing from the first 1, just rates it number 1 and gives kg and allen not talking as his main argument. Thats a very very silly point them not talking is to do with KG and his attitude problems, Allen is happy to talk to KG but simply KG is a jerk.

the fact Lebron is at number 2 further reduces the credibility. Lebron played his heart out in a small franchise team, lifting the team up from the bottom to title contenders. The owner never paid up to get some real players to join Lebron and basically he carried the team on his shoulders the whole time he was there.

He never played with an all star quality player in Cleveland and Mo Williams would never be an allstar on any other team. You dont think he would have loved to stay there and win a ring. Why should he sit there with no support. Perhaps he should have gone in a different way, but the fact he stayed there soo long proves how loyal he is.

Lin leaving the knicks was far worse than number 1 and 2 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 08:33:20 PM
Holz I respect KG, you respect Ray - this argument will never end. Lets leave it here :)



So who is everyones favourite player in the league? Holz, Windi and Valk can name their no. 2 :P

Mine is a tie between two players. Can you guess?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 23, 2013, 08:37:18 PM
Tough one. Rondo and John Wall?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
Tough one. Rondo and John Wall?
Actually Jeff Green and Jared Sullinger 8) haha. Green has come back from heart surgery to become our best player last playoffs, he shows up in big games too - had 40 against Lebron! Sully gives 100% and never goes missing. Goes for every loose ball and rebounds ferociously! Had a 16board game coming off the bench and when he got 25mins plus he averaged 12ppg and 10rbg 8)

MC's is Timmy 'misses game 7 layups' Duncan?

Sorry that was harsh, I would hate that :P TD is a legend! #bestpfever
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 23, 2013, 09:09:34 PM
Firstly, ouch Jayman :P

And yeah, TD is king. Dunno after that though. Probably Uncle Drew Kyrie, or THE BEARD James Harden.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 23, 2013, 09:14:14 PM
Firstly, ouch Jayman :P

And yeah, TD is king. Dunno after that though. Probably Uncle Drew Kyrie, or THE BEARD James Harden.
Ahaha apologies :-X

I love me some TD! Really felt for him in game 7, was almost as sad as Celts finals loss back in 2010. :o Even though I did the whole Wall > Kyrie thing, I'm an Irving fan :D Interesting to see how The Beard works with D12 ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 24, 2013, 02:44:24 PM
And don't tell anyone, but I'm still a Howard fan after all this  :-X

Also love Ricky Rubio! And Jrue... Man, too many favourites :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 24, 2013, 03:25:08 PM
Saw this and had to share ;D

(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1075799_455716497869132_1078236661_n.jpg)

Also, cool story about the Pacers practice, PG24 and Larry Bird.
 http://www.celticslife.com/2013/07/larry-legend-showing-pacer-players-how_23.html
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 24, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
Saw this and had to share ;D

(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1075799_455716497869132_1078236661_n.jpg)

Also, cool story about the Pacers practice, PG24 and Larry Bird.
 http://www.celticslife.com/2013/07/larry-legend-showing-pacer-players-how_23.html

Lebron is that good that he can win with an old man.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on July 24, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
lol Lebron chose to come to Miami

he should be paired with Pat Riley not Stern
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 24, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
Argh I'm missing NBA season already! Here, have some best PG in the league: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHFwwwle-qw

You're welcome :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 07:27:01 AM
Argh I'm missing NBA season already! Here, have some 7th best PG in the league: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHFwwwle-qw

You're welcome :)

Fixed
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 03:44:26 PM
Argh I'm missing NBA season already! Here, have some 7th best PG in the league: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHFwwwle-qw

You're welcome :)

Fixed
I dont think any sane person would have Rondo outside their top 5 point guards
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 03:55:37 PM
Argh I'm missing NBA season already! Here, have some 7th best PG in the league: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHFwwwle-qw

You're welcome :)

Fixed
I dont think any sane person would have Rondo outside their top 5 point guards

Steph Curry
Derick Rose
Kyrie Irving
Russell Westbrook
Tony Parker
Chris Paul
Deron Williams

would have those above him, John Wall wil be better than him next year

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1700812-2013-2014-nba-point-guard-rankings-mid-summer-edition#/articles/1700812-2013-2014-nba-point-guard-rankings-mid-summer-edition/page/2
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 04:57:18 PM
There are 2 point guards that may have a slight case for being better than Rondo, they are Paul and Parker. However if I can take one PG to start a team, I take Rondo without a doubt.

He is the best passer in the league, easily! Best rebounding PG and also the best defender among the top PG's. To leave him out of your top 5 is ridiculous when you consider the amount of skills that he does well! He is no liability on offense either, he has extreme quickness and a deadly crossover! Statistically he is one of the best mid-range jump-shooters among the NBA's elite point guards. Has shown he has the ability to put up 40, as you Miami fans know very well...

Reigning assist champion, winning the title back to back! Is top 5 all time in assist percentage and has the equal 2nd longest streak of 10+ assist games in NBA history (tied with Stockton and just behind Magic Johnson - thats some big names to be associated with). He dished out 24 dimes in one game for flowers sake and is one of only 3 people in NBA history to have a 18 17 and 20 game, the others being Robertson and Wilt - again thats some huge names to be in the record books with.

His ball fakes are amazing! Probably because his hands are equivalent to someone of Yao Ming's height! Pretty crazy that his hands are bigger than Lebron's! So obvious that you have hands that big you can control the ball way better than most other PG's. His 6'9 wingspan is 8 inches longer than an average person of Rondo's height, gotta help when going for loose or trying to get a steal on defense!

He is the best decision maker in the NBA I think, is like a coach out there! One crazy moment in a pre-season game was when Doc got ejected and Rondo coached for the rest of the game, drawing up plays and directing the team - probably the best quality for a PG and Rondo has it. He is a leader out there and has been a part of winning a championship. He knows what it takes to win and now he's our franchise player, watch him go bigger and better than before :)

Post of the year imo :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 25, 2013, 04:58:54 PM
So is that chapter one? Or just the prologue to your novel?  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 05:01:08 PM
So is that chapter one? Or just the prologue to your novel?  :P
Plenty more to come :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on July 25, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
as far as being a pure point guard, a pass first one, you won't find many better than Rondo, if any

also he does a lot of things well except shoot
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 25, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Pass first guard - Grieves Vasques (10 assists per game)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 06:57:38 PM
as far as being a pure point guard, a pass first one, you won't find many better than Rondo, if any

also he does a lot of things well except shoot
I disagree. He is a much improved shooter. http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/rondo_is_one_of_the_nbas_best_mid_range_shooters/12350761

Pass first guard - Grieves Vasques (10 assists per game)
How about 11 assists :P plus 14 points, 6 boards ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 06:59:56 PM
One more thing... Rondo ELEVATES for the playoffs! Look at his stats in last years post-season:

ppg: 17.3
apg: 11.9
rpg: 7
spg: 2.4

What more is there to say? Crazy stats :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 25, 2013, 08:58:33 PM
Take of your Celtic glasses if your starting a team and your picking rondo than your a worse manager than Michael Jordan.

Curry is as good a passer but is the best shooter in the game obviously dorsnt have as many assists as he isntbpass first. Basically he is rondo and Allen combined.

Rose if he can get anywhere back to his normal form would make a comparison between him and rondo a joke. They are on completely different levels.

Injuries have held Irving back and still he is better than rondo.

Those 3 are all still getting better and have already surpased peak rondo.

Paul and parker are better no doubt don't even need to mount a case. Dwill is massively underrated and kg and pp will experience it first hand a point guard who can do more than just pass.

Wall as you know is a star he will pull his team into the playoffs,rondo will struggle as he needs stars to pass to.





Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 25, 2013, 09:16:45 PM
Holz you are sounding incredibly blind right now. I wonder how many times you have actually seen Rondo play? I've let you have the Lebron one, he is clutch but man you are so wrong on this, got no chance :P

Saying all he can do is pass is incredibly dumb, he averaged 17 points in the playoffs last season and 14 during the season! Keep in mind he has been behind 3 future HOFers for most of his career! Now finally this season, he will show everyone he can become an elite scoring PG when he needs to be.

What you don't understand is the term POINT GUARD. I'm not referring to the best player at the pg spot, am talking about the best pure, traditional, point guard - there is a difference!

Rondo is a true point guard! Which isn't about shooting off balance threes or taking over a game with scoring. He runs the offense and distributes for his team mates - Rondo is the best in the league at doing that and hence is the best point guard.

I suggest you read up on what a true PG needs to bring to a team and then relate that to Rondo's game...

In the mean-time, here is 1 play that sorta sums up why Rondo is the best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32MjBkENi3M

The hustle and despiration and then getting to his feet, executing a crossover and lightning speed, blowing past his defender and then finishing flawlessly.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 25, 2013, 11:29:17 PM
Argh I'm missing NBA season already! Here, have some 7th best PG in the league: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHFwwwle-qw

You're welcome :)

Fixed
I dont think any sane person would have Rondo outside their top 5 point guards

Steph Curry
Derick Rose
Kyrie Irving
Russell Westbrook
Tony Parker
Chris Paul
Deron Williams

would have those above him, John Wall wil be better than him next year

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1700812-2013-2014-nba-point-guard-rankings-mid-summer-edition#/articles/1700812-2013-2014-nba-point-guard-rankings-mid-summer-edition/page/2
Thats a fairly impressive list of PG's...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 26, 2013, 06:56:00 AM
That link has Lillard above Rondo... Dont see how you can use that as a credible source - the guy is obviously mentally challenged...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2013, 07:36:29 AM
That link has Lillard above Rondo... Dont see how you can use that as a credible source - the guy is obviously mentally challenged...

Rondo coming off injured and he made a good point with rondo.

Rondo gets injured and Celtics play better.

Wall comes back from injury turns a joke team Into a playoff team. Irving when fit makes Cavs competetive. Curry does major damage to the spurs who if not for some LeBron magic and Allen super clutch win the title.

Parker enough said he was on track for mvp before getting injured and would have got finals mvp if bit fir LeBron. .

You know who is also a great passer and could overtake rondo in a year or 2,  Ricky Rubio.


I disagree with lillard over rondo next year though.

Thing is jay parker and Paul are legends and I don't think it's fair to argue that guys Luke curry Westbrook are better players than rondo but not better point guards. Rondo is q traditional point guard, scoring point guards are important too.

There is a raft of piibt guards coming up who are all still improving and should easily power ahead in front of rondo. Irving is 20 he will be a top 10 player next year if fit.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 26, 2013, 08:15:49 AM
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Pass first guard - Grieves Vasques (10 assists per game)
How about 11 assists :P plus 14 points, 6 boards ;)

Grievis Vasquez stats arent that far behind Rondo's

Rondo
AST: 11.1
PPG: 13.7
REB: 5.6
3P%: .240
FG%: .484
FT%: .645
MIN: 37.4

Vasquez
AST: 9.0
PPG: 13.9
REB: 4.3
3P%: .342
FG%: .433
FT%: .805
MIN: 34.4

Rondo's stats are marginally better than a bloke no-one would consider a top guard in the league.  You need to take off your Celtic glasses and realise that Rondo isnt the best guard in the league.

Also keep in mind that Rondo has had 7 years in the league where as Vasquez has only had 3. 

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 26, 2013, 08:18:17 AM
Actually if you compare 3rd year stats to 3rd year stats the Rondo is worse than Vasquez

Rondo
AST: 8.2
PPG: 11.9
REB: 5.2
3P%: .313
FG%: .505
FT%: .642
MIN: 33.0

Vasquez
AST: 9.0
PPG: 13.9
REB: 4.3
3P%: .342
FG%: .433
FT%: .805
MIN: 34.4
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2013, 08:49:28 AM
Actually if you compare 3rd year stats to 3rd year stats the Rondo is worse than Vasquez

Rondo
AST: 8.2
PPG: 11.9
REB: 5.2
3P%: .313
FG%: .505
FT%: .642
MIN: 33.0

Vasquez
AST: 9.0
PPG: 13.9
REB: 4.3
3P%: .342
FG%: .433
FT%: .805
MIN: 34.4


Irving coming into his 3rd season should smash both those guys.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 26, 2013, 09:09:37 AM
Irving is a very good guard but not sure he will be better in the assist column.  The point I was trying to make is that Rondo isn't the greatest as Jayman likes to think.

I named a "nobody" with stats almost as good as Rondo's (better at the same point in their careers)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 26, 2013, 09:17:57 AM
Irving is a very good guard but not sure he will be better in the assist column.  The point I was trying to make is that Rondo isn't the greatest as Jayman likes to think.

I named a "nobody" with stats almost as good as Rondo's (better at the same point in their careers)

if your going pass first point guards than rondo is right up there, however just because guys arent traditional point guards doesnt mean they arent good in the PG position.

shoot first PG like Irving Curry and Westbrook just play a different role.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on July 26, 2013, 10:46:57 AM
as far as being a pure point guard, a pass first one, you won't find many better than Rondo, if any

also he does a lot of things well except shoot
I disagree. He is a much improved shooter. http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/rondo_is_one_of_the_nbas_best_mid_range_shooters/12350761

Pass first guard - Grieves Vasques (10 assists per game)
How about 11 assists :P plus 14 points, 6 boards ;)
well only 53 attempts and when you have guys like Garnett and Pierce in your team you can get more open shots, because the other team puts more focus on them, i want to see how he handles being the number 1 option on offence.

i hope he does well though, and it will be interesting in a new offensive system.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on July 26, 2013, 10:50:16 AM
Take of your Celtic glasses if your starting a team and your picking rondo than your a worse manager than Michael Jordan.

Curry is as good a passer but is the best shooter in the game obviously dorsnt have as many assists as he isntbpass first. Basically he is rondo and Allen combined.

Rose if he can get anywhere back to his normal form would make a comparison between him and rondo a joke. They are on completely different levels.

Injuries have held Irving back and still he is better than rondo.

Those 3 are all still getting better and have already surpased peak rondo.

Paul and parker are better no doubt don't even need to mount a case. Dwill is massively underrated and kg and pp will experience it first hand a point guard who can do more than just pass.

Wall as you know is a star he will pull his team into the playoffs,rondo will struggle as he needs stars to pass to.

on offence as far as shooting, Irving can't play defence to save himself, Rondo is better at running an offence, he is better at defence, he is a better rebounder.

Irving gets seen as a great point guard because he can score, but he doesn't make players around him better
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 26, 2013, 10:55:12 AM
Vasquez is a gem, i like the way he plays, pass first but can shoot when the defense sags off him, Pelicans were trying to draw more fans by dealing him i think, he did a great job last year running a young team, Sacramento should flourish with him at the helm
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 26, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
Vasquez is a gem, i like the way he plays, pass first but can shoot when the defense sags off him, Pelicans were trying to draw more fans by dealing him i think, he did a great job last year running a young team, Sacramento should flourish with him at the helm

I agree - be good to have a guard at the Kings who knows how to pass.  Our entire guard roster has a shoot-first mentality.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on July 26, 2013, 11:00:18 AM
Vasquez is a gem, i like the way he plays, pass first but can shoot when the defense sags off him, Pelicans were trying to draw more fans by dealing him i think, he did a great job last year running a young team, Sacramento should flourish with him at the helm
he is a good solid point guard for sure, but the Kings will only flourish if DeMarcus Cousins grows up and reaches his potential
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 26, 2013, 11:20:58 AM
Vasquez is a gem, i like the way he plays, pass first but can shoot when the defense sags off him, Pelicans were trying to draw more fans by dealing him i think, he did a great job last year running a young team, Sacramento should flourish with him at the helm
he is a good solid point guard for sure, but the Kings will only flourish if DeMarcus Cousins grows up and reaches his potential

Gotta love the "no knowledge" comments regarding DMC.  He is 22 years old about to play his 4th season in the NBA - meaning he has been there since he was 18.  Of course he is immature, he is still a boy and has had to grow up in the limelight.  He does get a lot of techs but lets put some names next to his with big numbers of techs as well

17 -  DMC, Blake Griffin, Carmello
16 - Westbrook, JR Smith
15 - Perkins, Noah, Durant, D12, Tyson Chandler
14 - Kobe, Larry Sanders, David West

You dont see all of those players being labelled immature and needing to grow up.  Over-sensationalism at its best when they feel it will sell.

Other notables:
11 - Matt Barnes, DeAndre Jordan (notable because that makes 4 of the top 20 from the Clippers)
10 - LeBron, CP3

Team Totals:
Clippers - 64
Knicks - 61
OKC - 59
Bulls - 55
Pacers - 48
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on July 26, 2013, 11:43:54 AM
Vasquez is a gem, i like the way he plays, pass first but can shoot when the defense sags off him, Pelicans were trying to draw more fans by dealing him i think, he did a great job last year running a young team, Sacramento should flourish with him at the helm
he is a good solid point guard for sure, but the Kings will only flourish if DeMarcus Cousins grows up and reaches his potential

Gotta love the "no knowledge" comments regarding DMC.  He is 22 years old about to play his 4th season in the NBA - meaning he has been there since he was 18.  Of course he is immature, he is still a boy and has had to grow up in the limelight.  He does get a lot of techs but lets put some names next to his with big numbers of techs as well

17 -  DMC, Blake Griffin, Carmello
16 - Westbrook, JR Smith
15 - Perkins, Noah, Durant, D12, Tyson Chandler
14 - Kobe, Larry Sanders, David West

You dont see all of those players being labelled immature and needing to grow up.  Over-sensationalism at its best when they feel it will sell.

Other notables:
11 - Matt Barnes, DeAndre Jordan (notable because that makes 4 of the top 20 from the Clippers)
10 - LeBron, CP3

Team Totals:
Clippers - 64
Knicks - 61
OKC - 59
Bulls - 55
Pacers - 48

immaturity isn't just on the court, he has been a locker room cancer that hasn't got along with coaches, this is the part where he needs to grow up.

so don't talk about the  "no knowledge" especially to a guy who has followed the NBA since 95
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 26, 2013, 11:56:13 AM
I think Vasquez will bring that no nonsense leadership to Sacto and his game will gel with DmC imo, its hard to be a consistent big man when the ball is being handled by different players consistently, all of which as Valk says r "shoot first" guards, they had John Salmons handling for big stretches last year :o Vasquez will feed the big fella in the spots he likes, he will feel like the focal point of the offense and with any luck that will help him leave the past behind
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on July 26, 2013, 11:59:31 AM
You can really call our last 2 coachs "Coaches"

Paul Westphal
Keith Smart

Both had no idea how to run a team and how to maintain a locker room.  Also think about any 18-20yo trying to addapt from a winning team in college (Kentucky) to a losing team in the NBA with owners who didnt have a clue how to run the team (apart from in to the ground).

All of that doesnt help but that never gets reported.  Cousins has been saying since he was drafted that he doesnt like losing and and that doesnt help his attitude but he has been working on it.  No one gave him praise for his efforts last year with regard to this.  He has this "Stigma" now that everyone just rattles off when they talk about him.  If he was a cancer he wouldnt have been invited back to the USA select team.

Just because you have followed NBA since 1995 doesnt mean you know more than anyone else.  For the record, I have been following NBA a lot longer than that.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on July 26, 2013, 12:09:49 PM
You can really call our last 2 coachs "Coaches"

Paul Westphal
Keith Smart

Both had no idea how to run a team and how to maintain a locker room.  Also think about any 18-20yo trying to addapt from a winning team in college (Kentucky) to a losing team in the NBA with owners who didnt have a clue how to run the team (apart from in to the ground).

All of that doesnt help but that never gets reported.  Cousins has been saying since he was drafted that he doesnt like losing and and that doesnt help his attitude but he has been working on it.  No one gave him praise for his efforts last year with regard to this.  He has this "Stigma" now that everyone just rattles off when they talk about him.  If he was a cancer he wouldnt have been invited back to the USA select team.

Just because you have followed NBA since 1995 doesnt mean you know more than anyone else.  For the record, I have been following NBA a lot longer than that.

Paul Westpaul is a very good coach, some coaches just can't help some systems develop, why did the Kings keep drafting big men.

and yes i agree the Kings had bad owners.

Time Cousins became the best centre in the game, which i believe he has the skills to be

being a cancer on a team, doesn't mean you don't get invites to things like Team USA, anyone with great talent will be invited to team USA
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 26, 2013, 03:33:20 PM
DMC is a cry baby, has potential though - think he will be a top 3 big man. Dont forget about Bynum now though. Knees are all good and ready to contribute in Cleveland. Keep in mind this is the guy that many were saying is the best C in the game

Take of your Celtic glasses if your starting a team and your picking rondo than your a worse manager than Michael Jordan.

Curry is as good a passer but is the best shooter in the game obviously dorsnt have as many assists as he isntbpass first. Basically he is rondo and Allen combined.

Rose if he can get anywhere back to his normal form would make a comparison between him and rondo a joke. They are on completely different levels.

Injuries have held Irving back and still he is better than rondo.

Those 3 are all still getting better and have already surpased peak rondo.

Paul and parker are better no doubt don't even need to mount a case. Dwill is massively underrated and kg and pp will experience it first hand a point guard who can do more than just pass.

Wall as you know is a star he will pull his team into the playoffs,rondo will struggle as he needs stars to pass to.

on offence as far as shooting, Irving can't play defence to save himself, Rondo is better at running an offence, he is better at defence, he is a better rebounder.

Irving gets seen as a great point guard because he can score, but he doesn't make players around him better
This! More to the game than scoring Holz... Lebron is a better player than KD but is he a better scorer? No! Scoring =/= how good a player is! Sure Irving can score easier but every other attribute, Rondo does better!

Valk, stats lie! Those stats dont show the leadership Rondo displays on the court, hustle and knowledge of running plays etc.

Keep in mind Rondo will have his best ever season this one, lets see if you guys are still saying Rondo cant score at end of season. I see him going 17ppg this season while keeping double digit assists and pulling down 5-6 boards.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 27, 2013, 01:20:33 PM
R.I.P Reggie Lewis - 20 years ago today. Celtics Nation dont forget its kids! :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on July 28, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
DWill is overrated. He has regressed drastically in the last couple of seasons from his days in Utah.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 01:43:08 PM
Still cant get over the fact that Kobe will make 93k every quarter next season...

DWill is overrated. He has regressed drastically in the last couple of seasons from his days in Utah.
I agree, he and Booz were big time under Jerry Sloan... I think he will be close to his best with J-Kidd helping him out though. Saying he is better than Rondo right now though is a joke *looks at Holz*
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 28, 2013, 01:48:16 PM
And Kobe said he ain't taking no pay cut.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
And Kobe said he ain't taking no pay cut.  :P
Of course he wont, its Kobe Bryant we're talking about :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 03:19:59 PM
Kobe should retire. He sucks.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on July 28, 2013, 03:46:53 PM
Still cant get over the fact that Kobe will make 93k every quarter next season...

DWill is overrated. He has regressed drastically in the last couple of seasons from his days in Utah.
I agree, he and Booz were big time under Jerry Sloan... I think he will be close to his best with J-Kidd helping him out though. Saying he is better than Rondo right now though is a joke *looks at Holz*

A guy who is coming if an injury which improved his team record when he went out.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 28, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
Kobe should retire. He sucks.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 28, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
It's so obvious, it doesn't need pointing out Chumps.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 05:15:18 PM
Still cant get over the fact that Kobe will make 93k every quarter next season...

DWill is overrated. He has regressed drastically in the last couple of seasons from his days in Utah.
I agree, he and Booz were big time under Jerry Sloan... I think he will be close to his best with J-Kidd helping him out though. Saying he is better than Rondo right now though is a joke *looks at Holz*

A guy who is coming if an injury which improved his team record when he went out.
Trust me, we would have fared a lot better in the playoffs with Rondo than without him.

Bradley is not a pg, he is a rubbish pg actually but was forced into the role. Playoffs is a whole different game, so much more intense and having no PG obviously means you cant win... We only had a better record because Pierce decided he needed to step up majorly, team structure isn't better without RR9.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 05:46:31 PM
Im not actually trolling. He cant even carry nash, hgh, gasol past thenfirst round of the playoffs
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 05:47:47 PM
Im not actually trolling. He cant even carry nash, hgh, gasol past thenfirst round of the playoffs
Maybe because he wasn't actually playing...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 05:49:56 PM
And thats how bad is he
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
All jokes aside though, sick of casual fans putting kobe on a pedestal and bowing down to him. Yeah, he is a fantastic basketball player but he isnt close to some of the greats. Shaq is one that everyone underrates so much. Kobe is prob the most overrated player of all time.

If you look at the 3 years he was truly alone without support at the lakers, he had a his career high in per and usage, and they didnt do very well. Compare that to LBJ and literally took a bottom 5 basketball team, if not the worst, to the nba finals.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on July 28, 2013, 06:07:38 PM
Can somebody say, epic fail? :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
Can somebody say, epic fail? :o

Take a look at the stats.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
All jokes aside though, sick of casual fans putting kobe on a pedestal and bowing down to him. Yeah, he is a fantastic basketball player but he isnt close to some of the greats. Shaq is one that everyone underrates so much. Kobe is prob the most overrated player of all time.

If you look at the 3 years he was truly alone without support at the lakers, he had a his career high in per and usage, and they didnt do very well. Compare that to LBJ and literally took a bottom 5 basketball team, if not the worst, to the nba finals.
He isn't close to some of the greats? Closest thing we've ever seen to MJ, I have him around no.10 of all time - thats great to me.

Remember, he got 2 finals MVP with no Shaq... People say that Shaq carried Kobe in the finals, but look at the stats, Kobe was dropping 30 points games often!

Shaq > Kobe but Kobe is still a great.

 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on July 28, 2013, 06:24:04 PM
Wow, this idiot boo'd me for my comment :o

Stats? You mean, the greatest scorer since Jordan right?

If you are going to boo, maybe get it right?  ???
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 06:25:03 PM
30 points a game doesnt make it good. Carmelo drops those numbers all the time and we know what sort of player he is.

Also gasol was robbed of the mvp the first time around.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html

Look at advanced and check per, usg, ws.

I dont think he is even close to the 10 spot. lbj is the closest thing to MJ and he is almost surpassed him.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 06:27:10 PM
30 points a game doesnt make it good. Carmelo drops those numbers all the time and we know what sort of player he is.

Also gasol was robbed of the mvp the first time around.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html

Look at advanced and check per, usg, ws.

I dont think he is even close to the 10 spot. lbj is the closest thing to MJ and he is almost surpassed him.
You think Gasol shoulda been MVP over Kobe in '09? Ummmm

5 beats 2... Kobe > Lebron
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 06:31:23 PM
Rings all that matters?

In 09-10 Gasol shouldve won the finals mvp.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on July 28, 2013, 06:32:44 PM
You like to think so but I doubt you saw MJ winning, was it? umm? 6? Championships?

Also, Kobe is on 5 ::)

Yes we all know James might be better than Kobe, better than Jordan? :o  Sorry lad, but simply no!

Just leave ff now before you get embarrassed further? Or keep trolling, I don't mind :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
Lebron is no where near MJ level
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 06:37:46 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=jordami01&y1=1992&p2=jamesle01&y2=2013

He isnt that far behind. Kobe on the other hand....

I can actually back up what i say with actual stats that matter. All you have is your opinion.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on July 28, 2013, 06:46:19 PM
But that is why you are a nothing but a nerdy tool, who's to say you even know what basketball is? Or ever seen it? Stats can win you arguments right?

Wrong! The best are based on opinion stupid ::)  Keep bringing your pathetic stats! I'll be waiting!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 06:50:25 PM
But that is why you are a nothing but a nerdy tool, who's to say you even know what basketball is? Or ever seen it? Stats can win you arguments right?

Wrong! The best are based on opinion stupid ::)  Keep bringing your pathetic stats! I'll be waiting!

That is really beyond stupid what you just said. But ok
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 06:53:40 PM
How about never losing an NBA Finals, never even been pushed to 7 games in the finals! MJ is the best!

Lebron, oh he has lost 2 NBA Finals already! Including the most pathetic sporting performance ever in 2011.

Did MJ leave Chicago to join another 2 of the best players in the league? No!

How about MJ doing a threepeat in the most dominant era in the history of basketball? Look at the superstars MJ prevented from being a champion... Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Ewing!

Imagine if MJ never left in his prime... To say Lebron is even close is blasphemy



MJ himself said Kobe > Lebron. Thats good enough for me!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on July 28, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
But that is why you are a nothing but a nerdy tool, who's to say you even know what basketball is? Or ever seen it? Stats can win you arguments right?

Wrong! The best are based on opinion stupid ::)  Keep bringing your pathetic stats! I'll be waiting!

That is really beyond stupid what you just said. But ok
Sure ok, we are ignoring reality, in that case ;D

I am Kobe Bryant and you are, still stupid I guess ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Ofcourse mj is the best. Never said he wasnt. Lebron is close to him whether you likemit or not. Everything proves it. Stats, rings, mvps. Lbj is doing slighty worse in stats, but better in accomplishments at the same age. Stats>accomplishments, which is why mj is better.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 28, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
Did he say Kobe > Lebron before or after the 2013 finals Jay? That game 7 performance has to change peoples perceptions of LBJ.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 07:04:50 PM
Lbj has been better than kobe since 2008 or so. Couldve been earlier or later.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 07:05:28 PM
Dont understand how you can call Kobe not one of the greats:
5 time champion
2 time Finals MVP
League MVP
15 time all star
Defensive first team
Best scorer since MJ



Ofcourse mj is the best. Never said he wasnt. Lebron is close to him whether you likemit or not. Everything proves it. Stats, rings, mvps. Lbj is doing slighty worse in stats, but better in accomplishments at the same age. Stats>accomplishments, which is why mj is better.
Dont say age that is unfair - Lebron came straight out of college. Got a headstart!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 28, 2013, 07:07:02 PM
Kobe's probably just inside or outside the top ten of all time IMO.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 07:07:28 PM
Ok lets go same number of seasons?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=jordami01&y1=1995&p2=jamesle01&y2=2013

Not that far behind....

Kobe is top 30 maybe sneeks into top 20. But dont think he is close to top 10.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on July 28, 2013, 07:10:32 PM
Ofcourse mj is the best. Never said he wasnt. Lebron is close to him whether you likemit or not. Everything proves it. Stats, rings, mvps. Lbj is doing slighty worse in stats, but better in accomplishments at the same age. Stats>accomplishments, which is why mj is better.
Ok so now why suddenly say something that makes sense? A bit late eh?

Now that doesn't make sense, why would a silly troll suddenly make sense? :o  Troll first, agree second? ???

How about a bet? Kobe wins more titles than Lebron? :o 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 07:22:01 PM
If Kobe isnt top 10 all time then who is?
MJ
Russell
Magic
Bird
Kareem
Shaq
Wilt
Duncan
Kobe
Robertson

There's mine. Kobe is dead set top 15 if you disagree you're an idiot.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
Mj, russell, wilt, shaq, bird, magic, duncan, barkley, robertson, kareem, marlone, stockton, lebron,  west,  olajuwon, erving, bayor
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on July 28, 2013, 07:30:56 PM
MJ
Magic
Kareem
Russell
Shaq
Bird
Wilt
Duncan
Olajuwon
Kobe

Alright, Kobe's in there :P

I still think that by the end of their careers LBJ will be better than Kobe. And he'll most definitely be top 10.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 07:37:52 PM
Mj, russell, wilt, shaq, bird, magic, duncan, barkley, robertson, kareem, marlone, stockton, lebron,  west,  olajuwon, erving, bayor
Barkley > Kareem? Trolling surely?

Give me Kobe over Stockton any day...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 07:42:41 PM
Wasnt in any order. Was just throwing names.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 28, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
3737 back in the house 8)

I agree with elements of both arguments, just not to the same extent...

Kobe is a great player, im not sure how well his stats would have stacked up had he never partnered with The Diesel, 1 MVP ???

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
3737 back in the house 8)

I agree with elements of both arguments, just not to the same extent...

Kobe is a great player, im not sure how well his stats would have stacked up had he never partnered with The Diesel, 1 MVP ???
1 MVP is a joke - was the best player in he league at least 2-3 more years. Like CB stealing an MVP off of MJ who was clearly the best in the world.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 07:55:18 PM
Hey riot,  cant access my other acc so made a new one :D

Which years do you think kobe was the best in jayman?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on July 28, 2013, 07:56:43 PM
3737 back in the house 8)

I agree with elements of both arguments, just not to the same extent...

Kobe is a great player, im not sure how well his stats would have stacked up had he never partnered with The Diesel, 1 MVP ???
1 MVP is a joke - was the best player in he league at least 2-3 more years. Like CB stealing an MVP off of MJ who was clearly the best in the world.
Kobe has always been incredibly marketable, u would think Stern would have filled Kobe's mantle with a few more if conspiracy theories had any credibility whatsoever, fact is he didnt win more and it aint like he was short on shots :P

Hey riot,  cant access my other acc so made a new one :D

8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on July 28, 2013, 07:57:16 PM
Kobe would probably be a Top 10 but no where near the level of MJ and LBJ.

For what it's worth, I think that MJ is still much ahead of LeBron, but he definitely has the potential to overtake MJ. That doesn't mean getting another 4 rings though.

Which is your other account Andy?  :-X
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 07:58:30 PM
Andrew3737
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 07:59:13 PM
Hey riot,  cant access my other acc so made a new one :D

Which years do you think kobe was the best in jayman?
Nash 2004 mvp 15.5 pts 11.5 ast 3.3 rebounds 1.0 stl 
Kobe 27.6 pts 5.9 rebounds 6.0 ast 1.3 stls


Nash 2005 mvp 18.8 pts 10.5 ast 4.2 rebounds 0.8 stl 
Kobe 35.4pts 5.3 rebounds 4.5 ast 1.8 stl


Dirk 2006 mvp 24.6 pts 8.9 rebounds( averages 8.5 career) 3.4 ast 0.7 stl 
Kobe 31.6 pts 5.7 rebounds 5.4 ast 1.4 stl

and the year he won his mvp 28.3 pts 6.3 rebounds 5.4 ast 1.8 stl 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on July 28, 2013, 08:00:06 PM
Kind of stupid since Jman wasn't old enough to notice in the years Kobe was the best ::)

We all know Kobe is the greatest from Jordan to James, what's your point Andy?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
Kind of stupid since Jman wasn't old enough to notice in the years Kobe was the best ::)

We all know Kobe is the greatest from Jordan to James, what's your point Andy?
That may be true but I still think I know a fair bit about NBA...

I disagree. Duncan is the greatest since MJ!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 08:16:41 PM
Nash ddnt win the mvp in 2004, garnett did and he was by far the best player. Carried the freaking timberwolves to the playoffs. Was onenof the most complete and dominate performances by an individual player in a single season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2004&p2=garneke01&y2=2004

In 2005 nash won the mvp and deserved it

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2005&p2=nashst01&y2=2005

La didnt even make the playoffs

In 2006, while kobe had his highest season, the lakers ddnt do that great. They were like 12th ranked side and nash had a as good per on a 20% usg on a side tht almost won the championship

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2006&p2=nashst01&y2=2006

2007 dirk had one of the greatest seasons for a scoring big in thenopen era

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2007&p2=nowitdi01&y2=2007




Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 08:24:07 PM
Am not disputing KG's MVP he 100% deserved that. One of the most dominant seasons by a player ever. Probably stiff not to get a 2nd MVP in his career. Sorry, got the years mixed up.

But I think Kobe was the best player in NBA during the Nash and Dirk era...

Nash's 2nd MVP was a joke. Kobe was so much better it wasn't funny! 35 5 and 5 doesn't get you MVP. Laughable really!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 28, 2013, 08:29:47 PM
If the lakers were oneof the best teams, than sure, henwould deserve it, but they barely made the playoffs. And actually lost to the suns thanks to the dominate steve nash.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 08:32:20 PM
If the lakers were oneof the best teams, than sure, henwould deserve it, but they barely made the playoffs. And actually lost to the suns thanks to the dominate steve nash.
Imagine how bad they would have been without Kobe carrying the team...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 28, 2013, 08:58:35 PM
Do we always have to have a Kobe argument.  :P



Bottom line is, you can rattle off as many stats as you like. Once you have an opinion/perception of a player. No amount of evidence will ever sway that perception. You either hate, love or 'respect' Kobe for what he is and what he does.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 28, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
Do we always have to have a Kobe argument.  :P



Bottom line is, you can rattle off as many stats as you like. Once you have an opinion/perception of a player. No amount of evidence will ever sway that perception. You either hate, love or 'respect' Kobe for what he is and what he does.
Andy started it :P

I agree. I'm a Boston fan so I don't like Kobe but I respect him and I respect the Lakers. Has done so much - I cant remember a more driven and determined player than Kobe Bryant.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on July 29, 2013, 01:57:13 AM
I am also a boston fan.

People put kobe among names where he doesnt deserve to be. Thats all.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on July 29, 2013, 07:22:02 AM
I am also a boston fan.

People put kobe among names where he doesnt deserve to be. Thats all.
wooooooo ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on July 29, 2013, 09:28:39 AM
And another Andy will finish it.  :P



At the end of the day, Kobe wouldn't give a shower if some people don't rate him as one of the best. He can just pocket his millions and laugh all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on August 05, 2013, 01:06:09 PM
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Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 05, 2013, 04:17:18 PM
I'll take Magic.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on August 05, 2013, 04:27:43 PM
agrred you have to catch magic fisrt before you can be compared to jordan, he isnt there yet but if he keeps this pace up he might be.

I have always said magic is the most valuable player of all time, that must not be confused with the greatest of all time.

I would argue that Lebron will likely finish up more valuable than Jordan, but i doubt greater.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on August 05, 2013, 06:20:18 PM
Well said Holz
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on August 06, 2013, 05:11:00 AM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on August 06, 2013, 07:33:41 AM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.

Per is my favourite stat and lebrons numbers even in Cleveland are insane. The 2007 finals series were the standout his ppg and per he almost deserved finals mvp without his team making the final.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 06, 2013, 07:05:21 PM
Magic all the way
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on August 07, 2013, 05:56:15 PM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.

Per is my favourite stat and lebrons numbers even in Cleveland are insane. The 2007 finals series were the standout his ppg and per he almost deserved finals mvp without his team making the final.
I didnt "say" anything, i thought it would be a good topic of discussion ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 09, 2013, 03:46:02 PM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
no he isn't and no he won't be, top ten maybe but the top 5 is going to be hard to crack in to
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 09, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Just from a Boston fans point of view. I am so flowering keen for this season! Think it will be one of the Celts most exciting seasons since like 2008. Just the fact we have a new look roster headlined by great young talent!

Watching Rondo improve and cement his place as an elite PG
Watching Jeff Green become a top 10 scorer in this league
Bradley's lockdown defense!
Olynyk in his rookie season is going to show major promise
And Sully showing hustle, defense, boards, jumpers.

Gonna be so good to see this new team shine 8) #banner18
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on August 09, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
Loved Jeff Green when he was at OKC.

Should continue to develop.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 10, 2013, 03:48:23 AM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
no he isn't and no he won't be, top ten maybe but the top 5 is going to be hard to crack in to

He is already top 5 ever. The guy is the greatest athlete+talent since Jordan and he will go beyond him baring any injuries. The numbers prove it.

I believe this season will be terrible for the celts. We don't have a proven scorer or defender. Our 4/5 combo is prob the worst in the league and you cant win basketball games consistently without a great 4 or 5. We have neither.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 10, 2013, 09:31:57 AM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
no he isn't and no he won't be, top ten maybe but the top 5 is going to be hard to crack in to

He is already top 5 ever. The guy is the greatest athlete+talent since Jordan and he will go beyond him baring any injuries. The numbers prove it.

I believe this season will be terrible for the celts. We don't have a proven scorer or defender. Our 4/5 combo is prob the worst in the league and you cant win basketball games consistently without a great 4 or 5. We have neither.
We wont be that bad... "we dont have a scorer or defender" hahaha. AB is the best defensive guard in the league and Rondo aint too shabby defending the point too. Green has the physical abilities to become a great defender too. Olynyk cant defend for shower but Sully is actually very good on that end.

Scoring? Rondo can drop points and Jeff Green should turn into a top 10 scorer, I reckon about 20-22ppg this season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on August 10, 2013, 09:32:53 AM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
no he isn't and no he won't be, top ten maybe but the top 5 is going to be hard to crack in to

He is already top 5 ever. The guy is the greatest athlete+talent since Jordan and he will go beyond him baring any injuries. The numbers prove it.

I believe this season will be terrible for the celts. We don't have a proven scorer or defender. Our 4/5 combo is prob the worst in the league and you cant win basketball games consistently without a great 4 or 5. We have neither.
We wont be that bad... "we dont have a scorer or defender" hahaha. AB is the best defensive guard in the league and Rondo aint too shabby defending the point too. Green has the physical abilities to become a great defender too. Olynyk cant defend for shower but Sully is actually very good on that end.

Scoring? Rondo can drop points and Jeff Green should turn into a top 10 scorer, I reckon about 20-22ppg this season.
#optimistic
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 10, 2013, 07:07:27 PM
Yeah... AB isnt even the best defensive guard on his team, and Rondo isnt close to the best defensive PG, let alone guard.

Green isnt a proven scorer, thats what I'm saying. Green may explode, but its not a sure thing.

No idea where you get AB is the best defensive guard from, because it couldnt be further from the truth. He is close to the worst starting SG in the league.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2013, 09:48:41 AM
Yeah... AB isnt even the best defensive guard on his team, and Rondo isnt close to the best defensive PG, let alone guard.

Green isnt a proven scorer, thats what I'm saying. Green may explode, but its not a sure thing.

No idea where you get AB is the best defensive guard from, because it couldnt be further from the truth. He is close to the worst starting SG in the league.
Get flowered. Bradley was All NBA defensive 2nd team and is still young. Received more first team votes than Marc Gasol did...

He plays excellent on-ball defense...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on August 11, 2013, 10:09:17 AM
Some interesting opinions in these...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-C-130809/debating-nba-center-position
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-PG-130808/debating-nba-point-guards
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-PF-130807/debating-nba-power-forwards
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-SG-130806/debating-nba-shooting-guards
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-SF-130805/debating-nba-small-forwards

"3. Who's the most overrated shooting guard in the NBA?
Gordian: Kobe Bryant. Kobe is still a terrific player and may be the second-best shooting guard of all time. However, his defense has declined significantly and, while still a volume scorer, he's never been as efficient a scorer as many would like to believe. Simply put, he's not a top 5 NBA player although many people would make that claim.

Huq: Kobe Bryant. Few have ever worked harder and maybe none have ever been more skilled. But despite his greatness, Bryant also is one of the most overrated players of all time. He chucks bad shots and isn't nearly as clutch as the narrative poses. He has pushed two future Hall of Famers out the door and hasn't won much when not flanked by elite "big" talent.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on August 11, 2013, 10:36:55 AM
Some interesting opinions in these...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-C-130809/debating-nba-center-position
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-PG-130808/debating-nba-point-guards
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-PF-130807/debating-nba-power-forwards
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-SG-130806/debating-nba-shooting-guards
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-SF-130805/debating-nba-small-forwards

"3. Who's the most overrated shooting guard in the NBA?
Gordian: Kobe Bryant. Kobe is still a terrific player and may be the second-best shooting guard of all time. However, his defense has declined significantly and, while still a volume scorer, he's never been as efficient a scorer as many would like to believe. Simply put, he's not a top 5 NBA player although many people would make that claim.

Huq: Kobe Bryant. Few have ever worked harder and maybe none have ever been more skilled. But despite his greatness, Bryant also is one of the most overrated players of all time. He chucks bad shots and isn't nearly as clutch as the narrative poses. He has pushed two future Hall of Famers out the door and hasn't won much when not flanked by elite "big" talent.

Jim Cavan, Knickerblogger:
LeBron James has boasted a PER north of 30 for two straight seasons, the only player since Michael Jordan ('87-'91) to do so. That's merely exhibit A in a list that could very well extend through ZZZ. The dude's an alien, and the best there is.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2013, 03:42:21 PM
Sure, he's the best there is. But he isn't the best ever and never will be.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 11, 2013, 05:03:00 PM
Sure, he's the best there is. But he isn't the best ever and never will be.

Based on what? You base that on opinion. While there is every stat in the world that say James can be the best ever if he stays healthy.

Also, lol @ your bradley thing. HE IS IN THE ALL TEAM, HE MUST BE GOOD.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

oh, those defensive win shares, DRB%, STL%, BLK%. soooo good.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2013, 06:14:02 PM
Bradley's opponent FG% is the lowest in the league.

Argument over.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 11, 2013, 06:25:18 PM
lol? Are you really that arrogant? Open your eyes and smell the flowers
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
lol? Are you really that arrogant? Open your eyes and smell the flowers
You wanted stats, I gave you a stat. No one keeps their opponent to a lower % than Bradley.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 11, 2013, 06:36:53 PM
That is not correct. He only kept them to a league low when the Boston had the most defensive possession. Besides, sample size. 50 compared to 82.

Bradley is a good defender, a terrible shooter and offensive player. Celtics will go nowhere with a player like him.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 11, 2013, 06:42:01 PM
That is not correct. He only kept them to a league low when the Boston had the most defensive possession. Besides, sample size. 50 compared to 82.

Bradley is a good defender, a terrible shooter and offensive player. Celtics will go nowhere with a player like him.
See the change he made to Boston's defense when he returned? Pushed us back up into elite tier.

"good defender"... Obviously hasn't watched him play, the guy is insane. He makes excellent cuts on offense - watch him closely, next season. You'll see... He needs to stay a Celtic.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 11, 2013, 06:54:59 PM
Celtic havent been in the elite tier for 3 years. I have watched him play. Over and over again, he fails offensively. He is a good defender. He isnt elite and he is going to be an average SG, because.... surprise, he can't shoot or dribble or attack the rim
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on August 12, 2013, 03:45:35 PM
http://www.wildcats.com.au/article/id/m0qd61pum88n1idg8d8jy034l

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The Perth Wildcats have signed exciting 2013 second round NBA Draft pick James Ennis as an import on their roster for the upcoming NBL season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 12, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
Find it funny how Andrew acts as if Kobe was a scrub during the Lakers threepeat ::) he deserves all 5 of his rings.

Kobe Bryant Playoff Stats (During Three-peat):

1999: 21.1 PPG (46%), 4.5 RPG, 4.4 APG
2000: 29.4 PPG (46%), 7.3 RPG, 6.1 APG
2001: 26.6 PPG (45%), 5.8 RPG, 4.6 APG

And to remind you Kobe Bryant was no older than 23 years old putting up stats like that in the playoffs. He was going against vintage Jason Kidd, Peja Stojakovic, Reggie Miller, etc.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 12, 2013, 06:58:54 PM
Dude.... Kobe had the greatest offensive big man, and prob the best big man of all time on his team....

Shaq during those years was going through the most dominant period of a big man ever. Shaq won him those titles.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=onealsh01&y1=1999&p2=bryanko01&y2=1999

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=onealsh01&y1=2000&p2=bryanko01&y2=2000

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=onealsh01&y1=2001&p2=bryanko01&y2=2001


Jesus christ. It's like saying Scottie Pippen is an all time great because he got carried by MJ. The truth is, it didn't matter Scottie Pippen was on MJ's team, it could've been anyone decent enough and it would come out with the same outcome.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 13, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
no he isn't and no he won't be, top ten maybe but the top 5 is going to be hard to crack in to

He is already top 5 ever. The guy is the greatest athlete+talent since Jordan and he will go beyond him baring any injuries. The numbers prove it.

I believe this season will be terrible for the celts. We don't have a proven scorer or defender. Our 4/5 combo is prob the worst in the league and you cant win basketball games consistently without a great 4 or 5. We have neither.

only because he will end up playing more seasons than Jordan did, he is nowhere near as good as Michael Jordan

lets not forget LeBron ran away to get a title and joined forces with 2 other All Stars and suddenly he is the greatest of all time, that is hilarious. 6-0 beats 2-2 any day, also helps if you don't go missing in the finals, also as the 2-2 record, he can thank Ray Allen for saving him in game 6.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 13, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
no he isn't and no he won't be, top ten maybe but the top 5 is going to be hard to crack in to

He is already top 5 ever. The guy is the greatest athlete+talent since Jordan and he will go beyond him baring any injuries. The numbers prove it.

I believe this season will be terrible for the celts. We don't have a proven scorer or defender. Our 4/5 combo is prob the worst in the league and you cant win basketball games consistently without a great 4 or 5. We have neither.

only because he will end up playing more seasons than Jordan did, he is nowhere near as good as Michael Jordan

lets not forget LeBron ran away to get a title and joined forces with 2 other All Stars and suddenly he is the greatest of all time, that is hilarious. 6-0 beats 2-2 any day, also helps if you don't go missing in the finals, also as the 2-2 record, he can thank Ray Allen for saving him in game 6.
Love your work, Kingy. You take too much from stats, Andy. Gotta look into it a bit deeper!

Just to add to your post, Kingy. Consider the competition that MJ had to go up against compared to Lebron... Dirk's Mavs? Are you kidding me... How about Magic, Bird, Malone, Stockton, Thomas, Barkley!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 13, 2013, 07:45:35 PM
Funny how you say casual vs real, yet no one ever uses advanced metric stats. Everyone uses ppg, rbg and apg.

Lebron is top 5 of all time atm. He will be the number 1 by the end of his career baring any injuries.
no he isn't and no he won't be, top ten maybe but the top 5 is going to be hard to crack in to

He is already top 5 ever. The guy is the greatest athlete+talent since Jordan and he will go beyond him baring any injuries. The numbers prove it.

I believe this season will be terrible for the celts. We don't have a proven scorer or defender. Our 4/5 combo is prob the worst in the league and you cant win basketball games consistently without a great 4 or 5. We have neither.

only because he will end up playing more seasons than Jordan did, he is nowhere near as good as Michael Jordan

lets not forget LeBron ran away to get a title and joined forces with 2 other All Stars and suddenly he is the greatest of all time, that is hilarious. 6-0 beats 2-2 any day, also helps if you don't go missing in the finals, also as the 2-2 record, he can thank Ray Allen for saving him in game 6.
Love your work, Kingy. You take too much from stats, Andy. Gotta look into it a bit deeper!

Just to add to your post, Kingy. Consider the competition that MJ had to go up against compared to Lebron... Dirk's Mavs? Are you kidding me... How about Magic, Bird, Malone, Stockton, Thomas, Barkley!
the 90's were arguably the best time in the NBA, players were tough and the rules allowed players to use more physical strength than they do these days.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 12:44:42 AM
Take too much into stats? Basketball's facts are all stats. Its like saying CP3 is better than Rondo. How do you know that? Oh because his minutes, points, rebounds, passes, blocks etc etc have been recorded. Every single one of them. You can't deny statistical facts. They are there because they have happened and stats prove it. If you try to say Rondo is better than CP3, you won't be able to back it up other than your opinion.

When does having a longer career become a bad thing? Again, you say "no where near" where the stats say differently. He is near him in terms of talent and being a basketball player. LBJ is only 28 and is historically elite. MJ, Magic were just elite at this stage of their careers. You can't just shrug it off and say no one can ever be as good as MJ. Guess what? Some one is going to come along and knock MJ off being the number 1. He did it to Kareem and LBJ could well in truly do it Michael Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 14, 2013, 02:00:04 AM
Take too much into stats? Basketball's facts are all stats. Its like saying CP3 is better than Rondo. How do you know that? Oh because his minutes, points, rebounds, passes, blocks etc etc have been recorded. Every single one of them. You can't deny statistical facts. They are there because they have happened and stats prove it. If you try to say Rondo is better than CP3, you won't be able to back it up other than your opinion.

When does having a longer career become a bad thing? Again, you say "no where near" where the stats say differently. He is near him in terms of talent and being a basketball player. LBJ is only 28 and is historically elite. MJ, Magic were just elite at this stage of their careers. You can't just shrug it off and say no one can ever be as good as MJ. Guess what? Some one is going to come along and knock MJ off being the number 1. He did it to Kareem and LBJ could well in truly do it Michael Jordan.
They might and frankly there is a good chance we have never seen the best ever, it's just it isn't LeBron. You need to look at the skill set, LeBron just isn't as smart as Jordan was, Jordan is the only player i have seen that has changed his shot selection mid air 3-4 times and still avoid the double team. LeBron is lucky that there are not that many great centres left anymore, Jordan had to try and work around some of the best we have ever seen.

as for stats, i'm a huge stats fan, but averaging 26ppg on a bad team doesn't make you an all time great(not talking about anyone in particular, just stating how sometimes stats are inflated)

as for Rondo and Chris Paul, each point guard is great depending on what systems they are running, Steve Nash is a good example of systems that suit a players skill set, Nash needs to run up tempo, 7 second style of offence, when the Suns changed coaches after D'Antoni, his assist numbers dropped in a half court set offence. Nine assists a game is still great but it is a fair drop from eleven that he was averaging in a fast offensive game style.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 02:56:40 AM
You say you are a huge stats fan, then you say 26ppg??? Reallly? I don't even know what to say. This is the reason why we use metrics. They aren't inflated at all. They are exactly what they are. PPG, RBG, APG etc don't mean jack.

LBJ didn't just average 26ppg on the Cavs. He took them to a NBA finals and conference finals by himself. He had the highest PER since Jordan and only one to have a PER higher than 30 4 times apart from Jordan. He is simply the best player in the NBA, hands down and will be till  he gets injured or age hits him. He will challenge MJ's throne if he doesn't get injured and the stats back it up. His numbers are the best and are around the same ball park as Jordan and he is still freaking 28. Not to forget James showers all over Jordan physically. He is the biggest and best physical specimen to play the game.


And CP3 is better in every way than Rondo. Coming from a Celts fan.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 06:11:01 AM
You're kidding yourself if you think cp3 is a better passer and rebounder than Rondo...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 06:39:24 AM
When ever does rebounding become a key asset in a PG's skills? It helps but its not a big issue. I'll give you that. I mean, Rondo is an elite passer, but so is CP3. It's pretty close but if you go by APG, Rondo is always going to come up top because he is a pass guy, he is a joke when it comes to scoring. CP3 does both and at such a high level its ridiculous. So lets say they are both are as good as each other as passing. Rondo is only better at rebounding, which isnt even that much of a big deal.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on August 14, 2013, 10:42:55 AM
Curry is only on 44 million/4 years.

That's only 11 million a year and he is the 4th highest pain on the Warriors. I call bargain.  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 14, 2013, 03:11:53 PM
You say you are a huge stats fan, then you say 26ppg??? Reallly?
you didn't understand what i said, i never said anything about LeBron and 26ppg, i said that some players average big numbers on bad teams................that part was from the statement "basketball stats are facts"
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 14, 2013, 03:26:35 PM
You say you are a huge stats fan, then you say 26ppg??? Reallly? I don't even know what to say. This is the reason why we use metrics. They aren't inflated at all. They are exactly what they are. PPG, RBG, APG etc don't mean jack.

LBJ didn't just average 26ppg on the Cavs. He took them to a NBA finals and conference finals by himself. He had the highest PER since Jordan and only one to have a PER higher than 30 4 times apart from Jordan. He is simply the best player in the NBA, hands down and will be till  he gets injured or age hits him. He will challenge MJ's throne if he doesn't get injured and the stats back it up. His numbers are the best and are around the same ball park as Jordan and he is still freaking 28. Not to forget James showers all over Jordan physically. He is the biggest and best physical specimen to play the game.


And CP3 is better in every way than Rondo. Coming from a Celts fan.
i doubt that, Shaq would be the best physical specimen i have seen in the NBA, and Michael Jordan was very strong.

the game now is different due to rule changes(the 3 defensive second rule) the leagues actual basketball talent is less now than it was back then, there is a lack of quality centre's in the NBA who can defend the rim.

the game is more spaced out(easier for athletic players like LeBron to get to the rim), they call soft fouls, oh and LeBron sooks if he gets called for a foul, he also is a king of flopping

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 04:02:23 PM
I'm keen to do another fantasy draft tbh 8) need something to kill the time before pre-season!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 05:05:49 PM
Shaq is the best big man, but LeBron is like 6"9 or some shower and is quicker than Jordan. He is stronger than jordan. There has never been a more athletic big man than Shaq, but for overall, its gotta be LeBron.

You know Dwight? He is like, a pretty good centre. He had a really down year, but he is a freak on defense. He prob shoulda won the MVP a couple years back.

Also, I don't think he it lacks talent. Jordans era just had soo much talent. This era still has Durant, James, Howard, CP3, Duncan( to an extent), Kobe, Garnett. That is still a pretty go list of talent and atleast 1 of those is going to be historically elite and Durant and a chance to that too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on August 14, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
When you say Shaq is athletic, what ways do you mean?  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 05:22:10 PM
Being 7ft 1 and 300 or so pounds and still running, jumping and the strength, like he is 6ft 5.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 05:23:32 PM
I'm keen to do another fantasy draft tbh 8) need something to kill the time before pre-season!

Keen
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 05:24:14 PM
When you say Shaq is athletic, what ways do you mean?  :P
Have you seen a young Shaq? I think he is the best physical specimen ever in the NBA... In his prime of course!

I'm keen to do another fantasy draft tbh 8) need something to kill the time before pre-season!

Keen
Was thinking just a current one going into the 2013/2014 season but open to ideas ???
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 05:26:46 PM
Single season or Dynasty?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 05:27:32 PM
Single season or Dynasty?
I normally prefer a dynasty type draft, opens more strategies.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 05:29:51 PM
Make a interest thread and lets get going.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 14, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
Shaq is the best big man, but LeBron is like 6"9 or some shower and is quicker than Jordan. He is stronger than jordan. There has never been a more athletic big man than Shaq, but for overall, its gotta be LeBron.

You know Dwight? He is like, a pretty good centre. He had a really down year, but he is a freak on defense. He prob shoulda won the MVP a couple years back.

Also, I don't think he it lacks talent. Jordans era just had soo much talent. This era still has Durant, James, Howard, CP3, Duncan( to an extent), Kobe, Garnett. That is still a pretty go list of talent and atleast 1 of those is going to be historically elite and Durant and a chance to that too.
how do you know he is stronger than Jordan ? just because a guy looks stronger doesn't actually mean he is.

as far as the biggest athletic specimen ever, you can't just claim it's LeBron, you would have to go look at every NBA player that has ever played.

players always look better in the "now" era, in 15 years people will look at a player then and i bet they will claim that a player then is the best player ever and best athlete ever.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 05:56:29 PM
Every single analyst and player has said this. I thought it was common knowledge  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 06:06:00 PM
Make a interest thread and lets get going.
Wouldn't mind having some ideas chucked around.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 06:14:39 PM
Like what? I mean, dynasty draft with as many teams as we can do. Order will be ABBAB.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 06:16:35 PM
Like what? I mean, dynasty draft with as many teams as we can do. Order will be ABBAB.
Just like what era etc.

I'm keen on a current one. Will see who else is...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on August 14, 2013, 06:17:05 PM
Make a interest thread and lets get going.
Wouldn't mind having some ideas chucked around.
You never finished the last one Jay  :P Never got to vote...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 06:18:20 PM
Current is fine for me. Could do all time if we want.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 06:21:03 PM
Make a interest thread and lets get going.
Wouldn't mind having some ideas chucked around.
You never finished the last one Jay  :P Never got to vote...
::) we finished the draft though! Isn't that the main thing? :P

Besides, this one will be way cooler
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 07:09:48 PM
if we do single season, we can sim in NBA 2k13. Dynasty is so much harder though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2013, 09:08:35 PM
if we do single season, we can sim in NBA 2k13. Dynasty is so much harder though.
How would ya get the right rosters?

Dynasty = more fun
Season = simpler
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 14, 2013, 09:58:23 PM
Manually edit.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 15, 2013, 07:14:46 AM
Manually edit.
Yep I can do that. Team with the best record after 82 games win?

Means we'll have to draft a roster of 12?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 15, 2013, 07:41:00 AM
Aim is to when a Chamionship isn't it?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 15, 2013, 03:23:41 PM
Aim is to when a Chamionship isn't it?
But then what if none of our teams win it?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 15, 2013, 04:04:58 PM
it will be impossible for one of the other teams who are full of undrafted, terrible plays to go on and win the CHampionship.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 15, 2013, 04:49:55 PM
Thoughts on Pekovic resigning on a 5 year, 60 million contract?

Overpaid or just right?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on August 15, 2013, 05:07:29 PM
Thoughts on Pekovic resigning on a 5 year, 60 million contract?

Overpaid or just right?

He is getting a million more a year than Curry. Enough said.  :P



Anyone like the FB page: NBA Trade Information, Rumours, Team Changes & Stats

Has an absolute pisser of a picture with Durant & Chandler with Beiber. Durant's face is an absolute classic.  :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 15, 2013, 05:41:03 PM
Thoughts on Pekovic resigning on a 5 year, 60 million contract?

Overpaid or just right?
pretty reasonable when you consider some crazy contracts out there
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on August 15, 2013, 06:11:57 PM
Thoughts on Pekovic resigning on a 5 year, 60 million contract?

Overpaid or just right?

He is getting a million more a year than Curry. Enough said.  :P



Anyone like the FB page: NBA Trade Information, Rumours, Team Changes & Stats

Has an absolute pisser of a picture with Durant & Chandler with Beiber. Durant's face is an absolute classic.  :D

It's where I get a lot of my info from :P

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/999885_368179363285721_1616097150_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on August 15, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
Overpaid and disrespecting Love yet again.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on August 16, 2013, 09:26:03 AM
@jayman BAHAHAHAHA you guys just traded Fab Melo for Donte Green and cash considerations.  Donte couldnt even get a game for Sacramento 2 seasons ago when we were a complete rabble
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 16, 2013, 09:32:26 AM
Need to get Melo out for salary cap reasons. He was earning too much for a back to our back up.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on August 16, 2013, 10:43:22 AM
@jayman BAHAHAHAHA you guys just traded Fab Melo for Donte Green and cash considerations.  Donte couldnt even get a game for Sacramento 2 seasons ago when we were a complete rabble

that is hilarious....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 16, 2013, 03:13:58 PM
Need to get Melo out for salary cap reasons. He was earning too much for a back to our back up.
It wasn't a salary dump, we also gave cash in the trade... Donte Green obviously wont make our roster, he'll be cut and we will go under the luxury tax 8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on August 16, 2013, 04:27:15 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/23167398/heats-dwyane-wade-has-shock-wave-treatment-on-injured-knee/23167398/heats-dwyane-wade-has-shock-wave-treatment-on-injured-knee

The season after Wade had this procedure done in 2008, he ended up playing 79 games and had the best season of his career with averages of 30.2 points and 7.5 assists while shooting 49.1 percent from the field.

 Wade's PER that season was a career-high 30.4 and he finished third in MVP voting behind LeBron James (won his first MVP award) and Kobe Bryant.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 17, 2013, 04:18:21 PM
CSN New England predicts that Sullinger will be our starting PF next year! 100% agree ;D

If he can get consistent minutes then he is a 12 & 12 type player.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sully
Olynyk

Would be my ideal starting 5. Have Lee, Crawford, Brooks (need to get rid of at least 1) then Wallace to backup the SF/PF spot and good frontcourt depth with Bass and Humph.

I'm not giving up hope of the 8th seed just yet...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 18, 2013, 05:07:21 PM
Why is no one talking about Australia's very own, Dante Exum?

He is 50/50 on whether to go to college or head straight to the NBA. The latest mock draft has him going at pick 3, 2014 if he decides to enter.

Thoughts on what you think he will decide?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on August 18, 2013, 10:39:16 PM
would be dumb not to go straight to the draft
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on August 18, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
He has a really good chance of landing in Philly with Brett Brown the new coach.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 18, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
Should go to college. He doesnt look physically ready.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 20, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/993668_607576279265069_1743669060_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 20, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/993668_607576279265069_1743669060_n.jpg)
that's why i call him Mr Triple Double
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 20, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
And thats even with him missing a lot of this season due to injury :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 20, 2013, 09:26:04 PM
Meh, triple doubles don't really have any bearing on winning though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on August 20, 2013, 09:28:42 PM
Based on that list it shows how useless that stat is.rondo barely gets there.

To get a tripple double you should have to go 20 10 10.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 20, 2013, 09:55:07 PM
Some of his crazy stat lines:
44 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds
18 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds
10 points, 24 assists, 10 rebounds.

I could go on - the guy is insanse
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on August 21, 2013, 09:08:29 AM
Some of his crazy stat lines:
44 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds
18 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds
10 points, 24 assists, 10 rebounds.

I could go on - the guy is insanse

Pity the rest of the team is shower
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on August 21, 2013, 09:17:36 AM
Some of his crazy stat lines:
44 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds
18 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds
10 points, 24 assists, 10 rebounds.

I could go on - the guy is insanse

Pity the rest of the team is shower

we will see if he can stand up withouth those guys around him. Im sure i could rack up assits with allen, pp and garnett to pass too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on August 21, 2013, 03:33:02 PM
Some of his crazy stat lines:
44 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds
18 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds
10 points, 24 assists, 10 rebounds.

I could go on - the guy is insanse

Pity the rest of the team is shower

we will see if he can stand up withouth those guys around him. Im sure i could rack up assits with allen, pp and garnett to pass too.
doubt it, look at Nash's assists playing with Kobe and Dwight, heck look at Paul's assists, they have dropped with better players around him. Players have led the league in assists in poor teams before.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 21, 2013, 05:50:11 PM
Some of his crazy stat lines:
44 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds
18 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds
10 points, 24 assists, 10 rebounds.

I could go on - the guy is insanse

Pity the rest of the team is shower
^^^ obviously never seen the young Celtics play ::)

We'll still be better than your showerhouse Kings
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on August 21, 2013, 06:37:59 PM
Some of his crazy stat lines:
44 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds
18 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds
10 points, 24 assists, 10 rebounds.

I could go on - the guy is insanse

Pity the rest of the team is shower
^^^ obviously never seen the young Celtics play ::)

We'll still be better than your showerhouse Kings
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d77b8afc097ebe57abc7c222e15ab68f/tumblr_mkwj1rPCeD1sn5kjuo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 21, 2013, 06:43:36 PM
Some of his crazy stat lines:
44 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds
18 points, 20 assists, 17 rebounds
10 points, 24 assists, 10 rebounds.

I could go on - the guy is insanse

Pity the rest of the team is shower

we will see if he can stand up withouth those guys around him. Im sure i could rack up assits with allen, pp and garnett to pass too.
Im not worried at all about Rondo. He can be a franchise player no doubt... Look back at the 2012 playoffs. The Celts big 3 were COLD but Rondo stood up and carried the team on some occasions. He has been our best player for a couple of years now.

I see us eventually going to the conference finals with Rondo as our main man. Just give us a few seasons 8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 22, 2013, 12:24:27 AM
Rondo will never be good enough by himself to carry the team. He just isn't that type of player. He can't score consistently enough and is always a pass first player. PG's are the worst type of players to build a franchise around.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on August 22, 2013, 08:50:44 AM
Rondo will never be good enough by himself to carry the team. He just isn't that type of player. He can't score consistently enough and is always a pass first player. PG's are the worst type of players to build a franchise around.

I agree on pass first point guards but someone like irving or rose  you can build a team around.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on August 22, 2013, 12:24:57 PM
What I meant was, they can't do it by themselves. They need big help. Rose has Noah, Boozer, Deng. These guys are very good in themselves. However, a player like Anthony Davis can take the pelicans to the playoffs by himself because he has more impact on offense AND defense than any PG. PG's need an elite player paired, while SF/PF/C just need very good player.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on August 24, 2013, 10:19:20 AM
Agree with Andrew, id rather have a good big man than a good PG...

The way in which the player plays is of the most importance imo, flashy fast break, isolation and highlight based players like Blake Griffin, Carmelo Anthony etc will never go far in a finals campaign as their game isnt sustainable to playoff games...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on August 31, 2013, 09:45:43 AM
Lamar Odom seems to be going off the rails
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9615771/lamar-odom-arrested-suspicion-dui

Hawks Coach Budenholzer sounds like he is getting rail roaded
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9611567/mike-budenholzer-atlanta-hawks-head-coach-arrested-dui
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 31, 2013, 10:38:04 AM
Lamar is flowered :o its a shame, he was a good player.

Lol Memphis have released Fab Melo...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on August 31, 2013, 12:53:29 PM
Had a decent nba marathon over the last 2 days. Watched 2 of MJ's greatest games... Game 4 of the '93 Finals vs. Charles Barkley and MJ's last game as a Bull game 6 of the Finals vs. Utah

Both just incredible games, the plays MJ makes down the stretch are just unbelievable.

Then as much as it hurt, watched games 6 & 7 of this years finals. Both great games of basketball... My conclusion? LBJ isnt and never will be as good as Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 01, 2013, 09:04:53 AM
Thats just your opinion. Im saying its possible and the stats say its possible. We have to wait and see.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 01, 2013, 09:48:09 AM
Thats just your opinion. Im saying its possible and the stats say its possible. We have to wait and see.
No. It isn't possible imo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 01, 2013, 04:51:29 PM
Lol. See what you just said. It itsnt possible... IMO.

In

My

OPINION.

Thats just your opinion. With out any statisical evidence behind it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 01, 2013, 04:53:11 PM
You know what I mean :P I can not see LBJ ever being better than MJ, thats what I mean :P

Just no way I see it happening. MJ is the greatest. 6-0 in the finals.. Whats Lebron? 2-2 :o haha
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 01, 2013, 05:49:35 PM
6-5 in playoffs tho
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 01, 2013, 05:50:59 PM
6-5 in playoffs tho
MJ would never have lost to the Mavs... Just sayin'
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 11, 2013, 12:32:34 PM
Thoughts are with Avery Bradley, his mum passed away earlier today. RIP.



Only 4 weeks until Celtics vs. Toronto pre-season :D I swear, if we dont start this season with a frontcourt of Sully, I will flowering lose it. But knowing these C's we will probably go with Bass + Humphries or some shower like that >:(

Lol everyone is saying that Wizards will be a playiff team and that Celtics will get a top 5 pick. I'm not buying that AT All, see no reason why we cant finish above Washington presuming Rondo returns ok. Top 5 pick? smh. We will be close to that 8th seed guys.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 11, 2013, 02:53:42 PM
Interesting read here. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1766868-john-havlicek-says-paul-pierce-is-greatest-one-on-one-celtics-player-of-all-time

John Havlicek says Pierce is the best one on one player in Celtics history! That's a pretty big honour to consider Pierce above himself and also Larry Bird. Can't find a reason to disagree with him though, he is one of the best I have ever seen in creating his own shot especially late in games.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 15, 2013, 06:29:50 PM
For those that weren't on chat the other night. I'm 100% sure that Indiana will represent the east in the finals, whether they can beat OKC is a different story! No chance Miami get the threepeat unless D-Wade turns back the clock and become batman again.

Durant to win the mvp and have one of the most dominant scoring seasons of all time btw.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on September 16, 2013, 03:35:11 PM
with Westbrick?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
with Westbrick?
Westbrook makes Durant who he is. That was shown in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 16, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
with Westbrick?
Westbrook makes Durant who he is. That was shown in the playoffs.
Westbrook just takes attention away from Durant...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on September 16, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
with Westbrick?
Westbrook makes Durant who he is. That was shown in the playoffs.
Westbrook just takes attention away from Durant...
Mustn't have seen OKC in the playoffs last year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2013, 04:28:36 PM
with Westbrick?
Westbrook makes Durant who he is. That was shown in the playoffs.
Westbrook just takes attention away from Durant...
Without Westbrook, Durant wouldn't be a top 3 player. They both need each other to be who they are. Durant isn't the guy Lebron was at Cleveland, he can't carry a team on his back like Lebron could, not quite sure why that is, maybe he isnt aggresive enough or settles for too many deep threes or maybe he just goes missing, not too sure.

Durant and Russ are the best combo in the NBA. Saying either one holds the other back is a joke, they need each other just as much and both make each other better.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 16, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
with Westbrick?
Westbrook makes Durant who he is. That was shown in the playoffs.
Westbrook just takes attention away from Durant...
Mustn't have seen OKC in the playoffs last year.
Oh I did. Westbrook is one of the worst decision makers in the league. He is an athletic hack who has a good shot, Durant would be a lot better if he had a playmaking point guard, or just someone who is a good decision maker in general.

Not to mention his poor defense.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2013, 04:50:04 PM
So you think "HYPOTHETICALLY" if a deal for Westbrook for Rondo came about, that would make Durant better? Possibly, but it sure as hell wouldn't make OKC better. Durant needs another quality scoring option on his team. The reason OKC can't win now is because they have no 3rd scorer. Think about it, who do they have? Lamb/Jackson/Ibaka, that is shower :o

I'm not sure a pass-first guard would make Durant better. I think he needs the periods of time to rest, he can't be relied upon for 48 minutes of scoring like he would be without Westbrook.

Westbrook/Durant combo is perfect until Westbrook starts taking flowering horrible shots e.g. 2012 finals
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 16, 2013, 05:02:45 PM
So you think "HYPOTHETICALLY" if a deal for Westbrook for Rondo came about, that would make Durant better? Possibly, but it sure as hell wouldn't make OKC better. Durant needs another quality scoring option on his team. The reason OKC can't win now is because they have no 3rd scorer. Think about it, who do they have? Lamb/Jackson/Ibaka, that is shower :o

I'm not sure a pass-first guard would make Durant better. I think he needs the periods of time to rest, he can't be relied upon for 48 minutes of scoring like he would be without Westbrook.

Westbrook/Durant combo is perfect until Westbrook starts taking flowering horrible shots e.g. 2012 finals
I don't need to reply now  :)

Having two scorers is not Durant's fault is it Jay? That's why I said all Westbrook does it relieve scoring duties of Durant but at the expense of other areas of his game. A pass first PG brings players like Lamb and Ibaka into the game, and still does some scoring.  I doubt OKC to even make the CF, let alone win it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on September 16, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
with Westbrick?
Westbrook makes Durant who he is. That was shown in the playoffs.
Westbrook just takes attention away from Durant...
Without Westbrook, Durant wouldn't be a top 3 player. They both need each other to be who they are. Durant isn't the guy Lebron was at Cleveland, he can't carry a team on his back like Lebron could, not quite sure why that is, maybe he isnt aggresive enough or settles for too many deep threes or maybe he just goes missing, not too sure.

Durant and Russ are the best combo in the NBA. Saying either one holds the other back is a joke, they need each other just as much and both make each other better.

because lebron is twice the player durrant is.

I agree with your sentiments about westbrook though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2013, 05:18:31 PM
So you think "HYPOTHETICALLY" if a deal for Westbrook for Rondo came about, that would make Durant better? Possibly, but it sure as hell wouldn't make OKC better. Durant needs another quality scoring option on his team. The reason OKC can't win now is because they have no 3rd scorer. Think about it, who do they have? Lamb/Jackson/Ibaka, that is shower :o

I'm not sure a pass-first guard would make Durant better. I think he needs the periods of time to rest, he can't be relied upon for 48 minutes of scoring like he would be without Westbrook.

Westbrook/Durant combo is perfect until Westbrook starts taking flowering horrible shots e.g. 2012 finals
I don't need to reply now  :)

Having two scorers is not Durant's fault is it Jay? That's why I said all Westbrook does it relieve scoring duties of Durant but at the expense of other areas of his game. A pass first PG brings players like Lamb and Ibaka into the game, and still does some scoring.  I doubt OKC to even make the CF, let alone win it.
Just sayin' you take Westbrook away and Durant is not the player he is with him. That was shown in the playoffs. Similarly if you took Durant away from Westbrook, that would be an ugly sight. Those 2 are perfect with each other its the other players that need to step up e.g. Ibaka/Jackson/Perkins/Lamb. Also the front office has to stop with the bullshower moves. Trading Harden instead of Ibaka was horrible, letting Kevin Martin go was bad too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 16, 2013, 07:30:28 PM
So you think "HYPOTHETICALLY" if a deal for Westbrook for Rondo came about, that would make Durant better? Possibly, but it sure as hell wouldn't make OKC better. Durant needs another quality scoring option on his team. The reason OKC can't win now is because they have no 3rd scorer. Think about it, who do they have? Lamb/Jackson/Ibaka, that is shower :o

I'm not sure a pass-first guard would make Durant better. I think he needs the periods of time to rest, he can't be relied upon for 48 minutes of scoring like he would be without Westbrook.

Westbrook/Durant combo is perfect until Westbrook starts taking flowering horrible shots e.g. 2012 finals
I don't need to reply now  :)

Having two scorers is not Durant's fault is it Jay? That's why I said all Westbrook does it relieve scoring duties of Durant but at the expense of other areas of his game. A pass first PG brings players like Lamb and Ibaka into the game, and still does some scoring.  I doubt OKC to even make the CF, let alone win it.
Just sayin' you take Westbrook away and Durant is not the player he is with him. That was shown in the playoffs. Similarly if you took Durant away from Westbrook, that would be an ugly sight. Those 2 are perfect with each other its the other players that need to step up e.g. Ibaka/Jackson/Perkins/Lamb. Also the front office has to stop with the bullshower moves. Trading Harden instead of Ibaka was horrible, letting Kevin Martin go was bad too.
I think it's the other way round! It's Westbrook who needs to step up, he looks like a great player if all you do is watch highlight reels. Ibaka plays his role, Reggie will develop. Not so sure on Perkins and Lamb, but you can't blame OKC's failure on them. OKC need to improve their list to push for CF, or get rid of Westbrook.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2013, 08:16:44 PM
So you think "HYPOTHETICALLY" if a deal for Westbrook for Rondo came about, that would make Durant better? Possibly, but it sure as hell wouldn't make OKC better. Durant needs another quality scoring option on his team. The reason OKC can't win now is because they have no 3rd scorer. Think about it, who do they have? Lamb/Jackson/Ibaka, that is shower :o

I'm not sure a pass-first guard would make Durant better. I think he needs the periods of time to rest, he can't be relied upon for 48 minutes of scoring like he would be without Westbrook.

Westbrook/Durant combo is perfect until Westbrook starts taking flowering horrible shots e.g. 2012 finals
I don't need to reply now  :)

Having two scorers is not Durant's fault is it Jay? That's why I said all Westbrook does it relieve scoring duties of Durant but at the expense of other areas of his game. A pass first PG brings players like Lamb and Ibaka into the game, and still does some scoring.  I doubt OKC to even make the CF, let alone win it.
Just sayin' you take Westbrook away and Durant is not the player he is with him. That was shown in the playoffs. Similarly if you took Durant away from Westbrook, that would be an ugly sight. Those 2 are perfect with each other its the other players that need to step up e.g. Ibaka/Jackson/Perkins/Lamb. Also the front office has to stop with the bullshower moves. Trading Harden instead of Ibaka was horrible, letting Kevin Martin go was bad too.
I think it's the other way round! It's Westbrook who needs to step up, he looks like a great player if all you do is watch highlight reels. Ibaka plays his role, Reggie will develop. Not so sure on Perkins and Lamb, but you can't blame OKC's failure on them. OKC need to improve their list to push for CF, or get rid of Westbrook.
Westbrook is a superstar, he doesn't need to step up, well yeah he can improve but him and KD are doing all they can. Ibaka doesn't play his role well enough, he needs to be able to put the ball in the basket, sure he has a decent mid-range jumpshot but he has nothing else. Perkins has never been the same since he left Boston (flower that trade), he needs to pull down some flowering rebounds. Lamb is a sophomore but will have a big role to play this season as a scorer off the bench.

No way they get rid of Westbrook. They build around them two.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 16, 2013, 08:30:47 PM
So you think "HYPOTHETICALLY" if a deal for Westbrook for Rondo came about, that would make Durant better? Possibly, but it sure as hell wouldn't make OKC better. Durant needs another quality scoring option on his team. The reason OKC can't win now is because they have no 3rd scorer. Think about it, who do they have? Lamb/Jackson/Ibaka, that is shower :o

I'm not sure a pass-first guard would make Durant better. I think he needs the periods of time to rest, he can't be relied upon for 48 minutes of scoring like he would be without Westbrook.

Westbrook/Durant combo is perfect until Westbrook starts taking flowering horrible shots e.g. 2012 finals
I don't need to reply now  :)

Having two scorers is not Durant's fault is it Jay? That's why I said all Westbrook does it relieve scoring duties of Durant but at the expense of other areas of his game. A pass first PG brings players like Lamb and Ibaka into the game, and still does some scoring.  I doubt OKC to even make the CF, let alone win it.
Just sayin' you take Westbrook away and Durant is not the player he is with him. That was shown in the playoffs. Similarly if you took Durant away from Westbrook, that would be an ugly sight. Those 2 are perfect with each other its the other players that need to step up e.g. Ibaka/Jackson/Perkins/Lamb. Also the front office has to stop with the bullshower moves. Trading Harden instead of Ibaka was horrible, letting Kevin Martin go was bad too.
I think it's the other way round! It's Westbrook who needs to step up, he looks like a great player if all you do is watch highlight reels. Ibaka plays his role, Reggie will develop. Not so sure on Perkins and Lamb, but you can't blame OKC's failure on them. OKC need to improve their list to push for CF, or get rid of Westbrook.
Westbrook is a superstar, he doesn't need to step up, well yeah he can improve but him and KD are doing all they can. Ibaka doesn't play his role well enough, he needs to be able to put the ball in the basket, sure he has a decent mid-range jumpshot but he has nothing else. Perkins has never been the same since he left Boston (flower that trade), he needs to pull down some flowering rebounds. Lamb is a sophomore but will have a big role to play this season as a scorer off the bench.

No way they get rid of Westbrook. They build around them two.
According to last year's statistics Ibaka played very well. Off the top of my head, he ranked 5th in FG% for PFs, and averaged 3 blocks a game too. He averaged something like 12 points a game, on a team with Durant and the ball hog Westbrook that is a fair effort. OKC need to get better role players and Westbrook needs to step up his game if OKC even want to contend for a Conference Final place this year. The top teams have just become so much stronger this year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 16, 2013, 08:45:11 PM
Ibaka needs to be averaging more like 16-18. I don't agree with Westbrook taking more shots than Durant but I wouldn't call him a ball hog, he gets it done.

They still aren't strong enough to beat off my prediction for the title. The Indiana Pacers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 18, 2013, 03:54:16 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1778246-andrew-bynum-injury-updates-on-cavaliers-stars-knee-likely-return-date

#TheReturn
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on September 19, 2013, 08:46:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htiURZVuoks

Why Isaiah Thomas is better than Kyrie Irving
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 11:05:43 AM
1. Chicago
2. Miami
3. Indiana
4. Brooklyn
5. Knicks
6. Cleveland
7. Washington
8. Boston (depending on Rondo's return date)

1. Spurs
2. Thunder
3. Clippers
4. Warriors
5. Memphis
6. Houston
7. Denver
8. Mavericks



There are my predicted standings :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 12:35:38 PM
Pretty nice Jay. Although I think Houston are a bit of a wildcard. They could finish anywhere...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2013, 12:39:28 PM
Funny thing is I'd still back Houston to beat the Clips first round if it did end up like that ^
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 12:41:41 PM
Funny thing is I'd still back Houston to beat the Clips first round if it did end up like that ^
Same
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 12:54:30 PM
Pretty nice Jay. Although I think Houston are a bit of a wildcard. They could finish anywhere...
They could finish anywhere from 3-6 imo. I just put the at 6th because I personally don't think they're a contender. Dwight doesn't work well with another superstar e.g. Harden... I just can't see the team working with an overrated point guard and a PF/C combo of Asik & Dwight. Sure that's good rebounding but the paint will be horribly clogged up with neither having any sort of jumpshot. And Harden's game is getting into the lane... Just can't see it working, so I think 6th is fair :)

Funny thing is I'd still back Houston to beat the Clips first round if it did end up like that ^
Same
Last year maybe, but not now with Doc Rivers coaching the Clipps. He and Chris Paul will make this team great, and a serious WCF contender. Also who knows what Griffin will do this season, could explode!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 01:20:30 PM
To go with that, here are my top 10 players going into the 13/14 season.

10. Kevin Love
9. Derrick Rose
8. James Harden
7. Tim Duncan
6. Chris Paul
5. Carmelo Anthony
4. Kobe Bryant
3. Tony Parker
2. Kevin Durant
1. LeBron James.

Westbrook is the unlucky one to miss out, he is easily the best outside the top 10, didn't want 4 point guards in my top 10. Maybe next year.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on September 21, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
Chuck us a list of 'the next generation'

And top 5 rookies.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 01:37:04 PM
Chuck us a list of 'the next generation'

And top 5 rookies.
Haha okay :P for 'next generation', does 24 and under sound about right?

Top 5 rookies is easy. Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Dante Exum (Aussie), Julius Randle and Marcus Smart.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on September 21, 2013, 01:49:32 PM
And your predictions for

Bogut
Granger
Millsap
Bynum
Soudemire
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 02:05:32 PM
And your predictions for

Bogut - should finish top 5 in the DPOY voting this season. His form in the playoffs was awesome, playing super in the Spurs series. If he and David Lee stay healthy then GWS will push for WCF. 11ppg, 11rpg, 2.2bpg

Granger - was probably the star in Indiana until he got injured, but he isn't any more. Paul George has taken over but I reckon Granger will be awesome to have coming off the bench as a 6th man injecting some scoring. Could possibly get traded though to improve their PG position. 15ppg @ 47%

Millsap - Gonna have a nice year with a change of scenery. Should be the no.1 focal point of the offense unlike he was in Utah. Career best year in scoring coming up. 18ppg, 9rpg

Bynum - one of the biggest x-factors of the season. I reckon he'll miss that start but should gradually build up minutes and maybe by the All-Star break he will start to show some form that made me call him the best centre in the game a year ago. If he's healthy then Cavs are gonna get that no.6 seed for sure! no idea on his stats

Stoudemire - shower. One of the worst contracts in the league and can't play alongside Melo. shower. no idea on his stats
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 02:12:05 PM
Next generation, as requested by tor01doc :P

10. Anthony Davis
9. Kyrie Irving
8. Blake Griffin
7. John Wall
6. Paul George
5. Russel Westbrook
4. Kevin Love
3. James Harden
2. Derrick Rose
1. Kevin Durant
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
> Boston 8th seed
> Bynum best centre a year ago when Dwight was still at Orlando
> John Wall above Kyrie

Wut
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 04:50:13 PM
1. We can ge 8th seed if Rondo is back soon. Who else is there? Detroit? I dont rate them, will have horrible floor spacing.

2. Bynum had that awesome season in LA. Many were saying that he's the best. #TraditionalCentre

3. Yes, Wall > Kyrie. We've been through this before man.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on September 21, 2013, 05:18:24 PM
Who will be the worst team this year?


I reckon the 76ers. I think its gunna be very ugly.

Looking at their roster, I think Thadeus Young is about their best player....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on September 21, 2013, 05:44:01 PM
1. We can ge 8th seed if Rondo is back soon. Who else is there? Detroit? I dont rate them, will have horrible floor spacing.

2. Bynum had that awesome season in LA. Many were saying that he's the best. #TraditionalCentre

3. Yes, Wall > Kyrie. We've been through this before man.
Detroit >>> Boston. Jennings, Smoove, Munroe, Drummond done.

I will fervently disagree with Wall > Kyrie until the end of my days :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
Who will be the worst team this year?


I reckon the 76ers. I think its gunna be very ugly.

Looking at their roster, I think Thadeus Young is about their best player....
And Utah?

1. We can ge 8th seed if Rondo is back soon. Who else is there? Detroit? I dont rate them, will have horrible floor spacing.

2. Bynum had that awesome season in LA. Many were saying that he's the best. #TraditionalCentre

3. Yes, Wall > Kyrie. We've been through this before man.
Detroit >>> Boston. Jennings, Smoove, Munroe, Drummond done.

I will fervently disagree with Wall > Kyrie until the end of my days :P
Not sure how Jennings will go this season. Boston definitely a chance to finish 8th. I really rate the depth of our talls, Humphries, Bass, Sullinger and Olynk means we will always have a quality tall on. Green will have a great season and IMO our season depends on how Rondo goes.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 21, 2013, 09:29:08 PM
Wait what?

Durant is easily the 2nd best, with or without wbrook. He is elite and him and james are just out of this world compared to the rest.


How the flower is boston even in the playoff talk? Almost 0 chance. Need so many things to go there way and players to play out of their mind to even make it.

And lol at even putting parker in that list. Lt alone putting him above cp3 in a list. Bryant and melo above cp3? James>>durant>Cp3>>>>>>> everyone else. How is that even a discussion? I ddnt think it was possible to not suff up the top 3?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 10:22:28 PM
Philly will be the worst team but I predicted Evan Turner for M.I.P a while ago and I think he'll explode. Will be their best player easy!

How can you overrate CP3 so much? The guy never left the 2nd round? He is not the third best in the world.

Dont write off Boston. If Rondo plays career best ball for a huge chunk of the season, we'll make playoffs. I think it can happen.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 21, 2013, 10:45:17 PM
How can you under rate? He has been the 3rd/4th for basically his whole career. Best defensive and offensive pg in the game.  He is just unbelievably skilled. Have you seen his supporting cast? He was lucky to make the playoffs in new orleans and at clipps, all they need is that def big man, and they can make it past your precious 2nd round. Not that has any bearing on how elite cp3 is.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 21, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
Cp3 is not the best offensive pg. I take Rose and Westbrook before him. Defensive, yeah maybe but he is barely better than Rondo on that end.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on September 21, 2013, 10:57:43 PM
How can you under rate? He has been the 3rd/4th for basically his whole career. Best defensive and offensive pg in the game.  He is just unbelievably skilled. Have you seen his supporting cast? He was lucky to make the playoffs in new orleans and at clipps, all they need is that def big man, and they can make it past your precious 2nd round. Not that has any bearing on how elite cp3 is.
One of the best benches in the league... What do you consider a good supporting cast?  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 21, 2013, 11:47:30 PM
Over careers

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=rondora01&y1=2013&p2=paulch01&y2=2013&p3=rosede01&y3=2012&p4=parketo01&y4=2013&p5=westbru01&y5=2013

 Over last season.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=rondora01&y1=2013&p2=paulch01&y2=2013&p3=rosede01&y3=2011&p4=parketo01&y4=2013&p5=westbru01&y5=2013

For off, the main things are per, ts, efg, ast,orb, usg  ortg, ows , tov and ws/48.

Def is per,  drb, trb, stl, blk, drtg, dws and ws/48

Cp3 pretty much wins in almost every spot. Hash on rondo, but we dont have to beat around the bush to say he isnt in the top 5 pgs anyway.

New orleans had a terrible bench but ok bigs, just not good enough. Clipps bench is pretty good.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 12:21:38 AM
Did you not take any notice of the Spurs last season? Tony Parker was clearly the 3rd best player in the league whether you like it or not. And he showed that by taking his team to the finals.

Get stuffed, Rondo is a top 5 PG.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 22, 2013, 12:39:20 AM
Wait so. Cp3 is better in every stat, but parker is clearly the better player amiright? You can find anywhere ont he net, blacher report, forums, hell, even a spurs forum, and they would alls ay, cp3 ist he best pg and 3rd best player in the league.

Rondo isnt a top 5. Rose, parker, wb, cp3 and prob dwill. Hell, even wall and irving are almost better than rondo.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on September 22, 2013, 08:13:20 AM
I wouldn't completely write off Detroit. They have done some ballsy moves getting the players they have.

But Monroe will continue to improve and I can see them surprising quite a few.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
D-Will better than Rondo? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Umm Jalen Rose said Parker is the 3rd best in the league, that guy knows his stuff too.

Detroit won't work. Smoove at the 3 with no shooting in the frontcourt is a recipe for disaster. The team will be ruined by horrible shot selection by Jennings and Smoove.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on September 22, 2013, 10:04:20 AM
Pistons will have to play Monroe & Drummo up front and hope to hell Smoove doesn't go trey crazy.  :P

Billups back in Detroit adds some maturity & experience if Jennings loses the plot...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 10:32:08 AM
I think Detroit will make the playoffs if Rondo misses a decent chunk of the season. If he returns close to the opener though then I can't see it happening for them. Boston baby!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 22, 2013, 10:59:38 AM
Lol.jalen rose......  Sweet jesus.  Its like using chuck or  skip for your basis. They are paid tv personalities to force arguments to bring viewers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 22, 2013, 11:05:50 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=willide01&y1=2013&p2=rondora01&y2=2013


Rondo vs dwill over career.

Dwill wins almost in every cat. Rondo obv the better defender, but dwill is the way better offensive player compared to rondo being the way better defender, which is shown by ortg, drtg, per and the winshares.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 01:42:19 PM
Rondo is the best passer in the league and arguably the best defender at the point guard spot. Absolutely destroys everyone else in terms of triple doubles too, he can pound the boards like no other point guard since prime J-Kidd! He is like another coach out there too, can't prove that in your stats can ya? His leadership is incredible.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 22, 2013, 02:36:57 PM
Durant is easily the 2nd best, with or without wbrook. He is elite and him and james are just out of this world compared to the rest.
James>>durant>Cp3>>>>>>> everyone else. How is that even a discussion? I ddnt think it was possible to not suff up the top 3?
This
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on September 22, 2013, 02:40:28 PM
I think a few more >>>>>'s between KD and CP3 though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
I'm not buying that CP3 is easily the 3rd best. That position is up for much debate. First 2 are lightyears away from anyone but there are 3-4 guys that can push for no.3

Stop painting CP3 into something he isn't.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on September 22, 2013, 03:11:14 PM
Durant is easily the 2nd best, with or without wbrook. He is elite and him and james are just out of this world compared to the rest.
James>>durant>Cp3>>>>>>> everyone else. How is that even a discussion? I ddnt think it was possible to not suff up the top 3?
This


So LBJ > Durant >>>> the next half dozen or so.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 03:28:54 PM
Durant is easily the 2nd best, with or without wbrook. He is elite and him and james are just out of this world compared to the rest.
James>>durant>Cp3>>>>>>> everyone else. How is that even a discussion? I ddnt think it was possible to not suff up the top 3?
This


So LBJ > Durant >>>> the next half dozen or so.
Yes that is how I see it. Parker, Melo, Kobe. I'd be happy with any of them at #3
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on September 22, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Now now Mr J,

You are being inflammatory - again.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
Now now Mr J,

You are being inflammatory - again.  ;)
Dont get me wrong! I have CP3 in my top 3 point guards for sure :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 22, 2013, 04:26:18 PM
Jesus. Rondo isnt the best passer and he isnt the best  defender. I really dont know what game you are watching, to not hav cp3 as the clear and far 3rd best player. SI, bleache report, espn, every forum has cp3 as the best player. The stats back it up, the player backs it up, yet somehow you and only you ( you are the only person ive ever known to  underrate cp3 this much) think that cp3 isnt elite.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 04:43:51 PM
Jesus. Rondo isnt the best passer and he isnt the best  defender. I really dont know what game you are watching, to not hav cp3 as the clear and far 3rd best player. SI, bleache report, espn, every forum has cp3 as the best player. The stats back it up, the player backs it up, yet somehow you and only you ( you are the only person ive ever known to  underrate cp3 this much) think that cp3 isnt elite.
How isn't he the best passer? He has led the league in assists the past two seasons, had a 24 assist game not too long ago and holds the equal 2nd longest streak of 10+ assists of all-time, that equals, best passer in my books! He also led the league in steals as a rookie so don't underrate his defensive ability. Sure he isn't on AB's level but he is part of the best defensive backcourt in the league!

CP3 is pretty much elite, a top 6 player in this league! Won't get top 3 until he goes to the conference finals though imo. Gotta acknowledge TP9's play last year to take the Spurs to the finals.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 22, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
Does this mean, paul gerorge is better than melo because he made it further?  Hibbert is better than howard coz he made it further? Just because rondo is a past first pg and gets more assists, doesnt mean he is a better passer. Its like saying melo is a better shooter than durant because he takes way more shots and scores more because of it. Lol, like ab is a bearing on which you compare defensive guards lol...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
There's no evidence to say that Rondo is not the best passer in the league! Cannot amount a serious case for anyone apart from Rondo, has all the stats and accolades to confirm it. Btw Hibbert is a better traditional centre than Howard, his game in the playoffs was awesome.

Sorry what was that about AB? We're talking about the guy that kept his opponent's to the worst FG% in the league... Is that not enough to prove he is on track for the defensive first team?

On a sidenote, Green averaged 17.3 points after the all-star break... He is gonna go 20-22 this year,
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 22, 2013, 06:40:40 PM
Lol. Again all this is your opinion and shower based on 20 or so games. Andw e have been through this shower before. Ab kept his opponent when they had x amount of possesion. Which is hilarious.

Seriously lol. I know us celtic fans have been biased towards rondo but my god, you are number boston homer i have ever seen.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 06:48:04 PM
Lol. Again all this is your opinion and shower based on 20 or so games. Andw e have been through this shower before. Ab kept his opponent when they had x amount of possesion. Which is hilarious.

Seriously lol. I know us celtic fans have been biased towards rondo but my god, you are number boston homer i have ever seen.
What fun is following a sport without having an opinion? Isn't that the main point, to generate an opinion? How boring would that be, just following the stats some nerds put together and not even watching games...

AB's full-court defense is unlike anything I've ever seen! Makes  just getting past the half-way line a huge challenge! No one else can do it like him. If we let him go at the end of this season, we're making a huge mistake.

Rondo went absolutely off in the 2012 playoffs, carrying this team! He is gonna put up stats like that this season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andy3737 on September 22, 2013, 07:01:06 PM
Its fine having an opinion. But dont put your opinion across like its gospel without anything substantial  to backup it up. If i say melo is better than lbj, you lol @ me correct?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 22, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
Its fine having an opinion. But dont put your opinion across like its gospel without anything substantial  to backup it up. If i say melo is better than lbj, you lol @ me correct?
I would lose my shower laughing. Melo is the better scorer imo but can't compare Lebron's all-around game to anyone
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on September 23, 2013, 04:41:35 PM
Shut up Ando! Stop bloddy swearing ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 23, 2013, 05:41:33 PM
I need to have a vent... So ESPN think Kobe will be the 78th best player next season!!! That's right 78 :o

Players above him include Jeff Teague, Isaiah Thomas, George Hill, Maurice Harkless, Wesley Matthews and Jeremy Lin.

What sports writer has the nerve to say that 5-time champion, league MVP, finals MVP, perennial all-star, one of the best scorers of all-time and one of the best players since Michael Jordan will be worse than those spuds! Kobe will still be top 10 next season, 78th in the league is a frickin joke!

SUCH BLASPHEMY TO ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS TO EVER PLAY THIS GAME. WHERE IS YOUR RESPECT.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on September 23, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
Tony Parker named MVP as FRANCE wins first Eurobasket title, defeating Lithuania 80-66.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 23, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
I need to have a vent... So ESPN think Kobe will be the 78th best player next season!!! That's right 78 :o

Players above him include Jeff Teague, Isaiah Thomas, George Hill, Maurice Harkless, Wesley Matthews and Jeremy Lin.

What sports writer has the nerve to say that 5-time champion, league MVP, finals MVP, perennial all-star, one of the best scorers of all-time and one of the best players since Michael Jordan will be worse than those spuds! Kobe will still be top 10 next season, 78th in the league is a frickin joke!

SUCH BLASPHEMY TO ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS TO EVER PLAY THIS GAME. WHERE IS YOUR RESPECT.

R u referring to the fantasy rankings? 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 23, 2013, 10:03:21 PM
I need to have a vent... So ESPN think Kobe will be the 78th best player next season!!! That's right 78 :o

Players above him include Jeff Teague, Isaiah Thomas, George Hill, Maurice Harkless, Wesley Matthews and Jeremy Lin.

What sports writer has the nerve to say that 5-time champion, league MVP, finals MVP, perennial all-star, one of the best scorers of all-time and one of the best players since Michael Jordan will be worse than those spuds! Kobe will still be top 10 next season, 78th in the league is a frickin joke!

SUCH BLASPHEMY TO ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS TO EVER PLAY THIS GAME. WHERE IS YOUR RESPECT.

R u referring to the fantasy rankings?
Yeah, very harsh! He'll be back for opening night...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on September 23, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Spoilt for choice then with MVP's ready to start the season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on September 24, 2013, 06:52:06 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/kings/2013/09/23/shaq-sacramento-kings-shaquille-oneal/2854021/

Shaq minority owner of the KINGS!!!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 24, 2013, 11:16:07 AM
I need to have a vent... So ESPN think Kobe will be the 78th best player next season!!! That's right 78 :o

Players above him include Jeff Teague, Isaiah Thomas, George Hill, Maurice Harkless, Wesley Matthews and Jeremy Lin.

What sports writer has the nerve to say that 5-time champion, league MVP, finals MVP, perennial all-star, one of the best scorers of all-time and one of the best players since Michael Jordan will be worse than those spuds! Kobe will still be top 10 next season, 78th in the league is a frickin joke!

SUCH BLASPHEMY TO ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS TO EVER PLAY THIS GAME. WHERE IS YOUR RESPECT.

R u referring to the fantasy rankings?
Yeah, very harsh! He'll be back for opening night...
Tis a bit, he has been going in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the mocks ive been doing

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/kings/2013/09/23/shaq-sacramento-kings-shaquille-oneal/2854021/

Shaq minority owner of the KINGS!!!
Thats great for The Kings
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on September 30, 2013, 02:20:45 PM
NBA finals going back to the 2-2-1-1-1 format after going with 2-3-2 for the last 30 years or so...

I like it :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on September 30, 2013, 02:45:41 PM
NBA finals going back to the 2-2-1-1-1 format after going with 2-3-2 for the last 30 years or so...

I like it :)

i like it also. Heat should win in 5 now :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on September 30, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/09/27/2013-nba-media-day-coverage/index.html
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 01, 2013, 07:13:53 AM
Jeff Green: "I'm going to continue to heed the words of Kevin Garnett - be aggressive, be an asshole. Yes, I said asshole."

Puts a smile on my face to hear that! Exactly what he needs to do! Aggression and he becomes an elite scorer.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 01, 2013, 12:20:30 PM
Warriors unveil 2013-14 alternate
Clippers are Back in Blue

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1382047_10151817369148463_1262457692_n.jpg)

(http://www.footballanarchy.net/forum/images/smilies/th_smiley_sick.gif)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 02, 2013, 10:22:44 AM
agreed that Clipper strip is vomit ;D

NBA finals going back to the 2-2-1-1-1 format after going with 2-3-2 for the last 30 years or so...

I like it :)
Love It 8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 03, 2013, 10:10:33 AM
NBA finals going back to the 2-2-1-1-1 format after going with 2-3-2 for the last 30 years or so...

I like it :)
yes :D it is the best format
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 06, 2013, 01:17:55 PM
Some pre-season results:

OKC won in Turkey, think it was against Instanbul - 95 - 82. Durant scored 24.

Derrick Rose made his return against Indiana - 82 - 76 win from the Bulls. Rose with 13 points and 2 steals.

Pelicans beat the Rockets by one - 116 - 115. Howard scored 19 and had 9 boards.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 06, 2013, 01:26:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DvHKL6MJV0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DvHKL6MJV0)

Rose with a steal then breakaway jam...............

He was dunking like last year or something..  ::)


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 06, 2013, 01:32:18 PM
It's worth noting (I believe) he didn't play in the fourth quarter.

Seems fit to me, made some bad turnovers though   :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 06, 2013, 01:34:06 PM
Too be expected.... :P

I was shocked he didn't roll up in a suit, just out of habit.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 06, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
Howard looked great, moved well and had some offensive moves for once :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 06, 2013, 03:17:45 PM
....Annnnd got ejected.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 06, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
Lol D12 got ejected :P

Everyone getting all crazy about D-Rose... He shoulda been doing this by the all-star break last year ;D

Lakers with no Kobe, Nash, Gasol beat a full strength GSW. Xavier Henry scored 29 for LA, that kid has pitential.

No Celtics games yet :'(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 08, 2013, 03:31:27 AM
Some of you may have seen last night's game. Denver beat the Lakers by 9. The crazy thing was... I WAS THERE ;D

In the US for the holidays and this was the only game I could get to. Even tho it was pre-season, still so cool to be at Staples with stars such as Lawson, Nash, Gasol, Nate, Faried AND JAVALE MCGEE!

Just thought I'd share that :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 08, 2013, 08:28:18 AM
Scouting for your NBA fantasy team are you?  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 08, 2013, 10:09:03 AM
Scouting for your NBA fantasy team are you?  :)
Yep :P Xavier Henry looked good...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 08, 2013, 04:16:36 PM
Yeah, pretty pleased with him thus far.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 09, 2013, 06:40:01 AM
Sixers and thunder have had a good game so far
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 09, 2013, 10:27:56 AM
Some of you may have seen last night's game. Denver beat the Lakers by 9. The crazy thing was... I WAS THERE ;D

In the US for the holidays and this was the only game I could get to. Even tho it was pre-season, still so cool to be at Staples with stars such as Lawson, Nash, Gasol, Nate, Faried AND JAVALE MCGEE!

Just thought I'd share that :P

Awesome Jayman 8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 09, 2013, 11:05:01 AM
Some of you may have seen last night's game. Denver beat the Lakers by 9. The crazy thing was... I WAS THERE ;D

In the US for the holidays and this was the only game I could get to. Even tho it was pre-season, still so cool to be at Staples with stars such as Lawson, Nash, Gasol, Nate, Faried AND JAVALE MCGEE!

Just thought I'd share that :P

Awesome Jayman 8)
It made me want to go to a Celtics game really bad :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on October 09, 2013, 01:04:33 PM
Some of you may have seen last night's game. Denver beat the Lakers by 9. The crazy thing was... I WAS THERE ;D

In the US for the holidays and this was the only game I could get to. Even tho it was pre-season, still so cool to be at Staples with stars such as Lawson, Nash, Gasol, Nate, Faried AND JAVALE MCGEE!

Just thought I'd share that :P

Awesome Jayman 8)
It made me want to go to a Celtics game really bad :P

Haha yeah i bet!!!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 15, 2013, 04:33:15 PM
Philly are gunna stink real bad this year.

Only missing #1 draft pick Kwame Brown  ::) They got smashed by a second rate Nets team by 30pts, that was missing Pierce, AK47, Terry and Deron.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2013, 04:41:37 PM
Philly will be bad but my pick for M.I.P Even Turner will shine as the no.1 option!

I hope the Nets stick with that team for the rest of the pre-sason. Wouldnt seem right for Pierce to play against Boston for the first time, in the pre-season... Celts need that to be a huge game!

All the experts are saying that Rondo needs to and will be traded. I'm split on this... Trading Rondo is the only way we get ourselves a shot at Wiggins unless Rondo takes an extraordinary long time to recover. But I also want to see him play as the star of this team. I want him to lead us to the promised land again! Will need a better unit around him but thats nothing FA cant fix ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 15, 2013, 06:03:29 PM
LeBron to Philly 2015

Watch it happen
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
LeBron to Philly 2015

Watch it happen
::)

He's stayin' in Miami. If he were to go anywhere though, it'd be Cleveland, end where he started...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2013, 06:34:57 PM
LeBron to Philly 2015

Watch it happen
::)

He's stayin' in Miami. If he were to go anywhere though, it'd be Cleveland, end where he started...

needs a fit bynum.

Irving Waiters Lebron Thompson/Bennett Bynum

thats a deadly team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
LeBron to Philly 2015

Watch it happen
::)

He's stayin' in Miami. If he were to go anywhere though, it'd be Cleveland, end where he started...

needs a fit bynum.

Irving Waiters Lebron Thompson/Bennett Bynum

thats a deadly team.
I'm not even convinced that Bynum will ever get fit. He's just one of the guys that you think "Does this guy really love basketball?"... Still think he's an awesome talent though! A guy by the name of Brook Lopez could over-take Bynum on my list of favourite/best centres... Lopez a freak in the post!

Thompson a candidate for M.I.P if he gets starting minutes.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 15, 2013, 07:21:41 PM
LeBron to Philly 2015

Watch it happen
the whole earth's axis would shift if he went there, not because of him joining the Sixers, but because of all the bandwagon supporters switching teams
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2013, 07:33:15 PM
LeBron to Philly 2015

Watch it happen
the whole earth's axis would shift if he went there, not because of him joining the Sixers, but because of all the bandwagon supporters switching teams
*stares at Holzman*
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on October 15, 2013, 07:35:12 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 15, 2013, 07:47:09 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
should be great :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 15, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 15, 2013, 09:21:51 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D
I don't think Curry will catch him tbh! Ray is still going!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2013, 11:50:13 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D

I'm suprised you didn't know this but it's actually legend ray Allen who holds the career 3 point record. I'm not sure who your talking about.

Not sure pierce or Garnett will be able to match his championship though

Allen is just a intelegent guy, the big 3 and the coach have now left, the only difference is Allen got a ring and pulled off one of it not the clutchest shot of all time. Pp and garnett don't retire as Celtics anyway and instead are hurting their legacy in the new jersey has beens,

I hope LeBron and Allen crush those guys, complete hypocrites. I don't mind pp he is just a sheep but kg.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 15, 2013, 11:54:52 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D
I don't think Curry will catch him tbh! Ray is still going!
Curry is well on track to catch him, if he keeps at this current rate, he will smash that record
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 15, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D
I don't think Curry will catch him tbh! Ray is still going!
Curry is well on track to catch him, if he keeps at this current rate, he will smash that record

Injuries though, Allen has stayed up the top for soo long and is still a great player. Hopefully he gets a few more rings to match his legendary status
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 16, 2013, 12:22:56 AM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D
I don't think Curry will catch him tbh! Ray is still going!
Curry is well on track to catch him, if he keeps at this current rate, he will smash that record

Injuries though, Allen has stayed up the top for soo long and is still a great player. Hopefully he gets a few more rings to match his legendary status
well Curry looks fine with his injuries at the moment and the fact that he takes and hits so many threes at a young age is phenominal
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 16, 2013, 05:46:41 AM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D

I'm suprised you didn't know this but it's actually legend ray Allen who holds the career 3 point record. I'm not sure who your talking about.

Not sure pierce or Garnett will be able to match his championship though

Allen is just a intelegent guy, the big 3 and the coach have now left, the only difference is Allen got a ring and pulled off one of it not the clutchest shot of all time. Pp and garnett don't retire as Celtics anyway and instead are hurting their legacy in the new jersey has beens,

I hope LeBron and Allen crush those guys, complete hypocrites. I don't mind pp he is just a sheep but kg.
Arch rival + ditching the guys that got him a ring + less money = traitor. I will lose so much respect for the Celtics organisation if they retire his jersey.

Pierce was traded ::) didnt just walk out like Ray... KG is a super competitor, I understand him wanting to have another crack at the title. I thank him for getting us banner 17! Why would he or Pierce want to be in Boston if the front office didnt want them there? Ainge pushed his legeds out the door, whereas Ray was offered a very good contract to stay! Yes I know there had been talks of trading Ray but Pierce has probably been involved in about twice as money trade rumours yet he still didnt want to leave Boston.

Cant wait to see Pierce, KG and co. absolutely pound Lebron and weakass Ray in the playoffs.



Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2013, 08:51:42 AM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D

I'm suprised you didn't know this but it's actually legend ray Allen who holds the career 3 point record. I'm not sure who your talking about.

Not sure pierce or Garnett will be able to match his championship though

Allen is just a intelegent guy, the big 3 and the coach have now left, the only difference is Allen got a ring and pulled off one of it not the clutchest shot of all time. Pp and garnett don't retire as Celtics anyway and instead are hurting their legacy in the new jersey has beens,

I hope LeBron and Allen crush those guys, complete hypocrites. I don't mind pp he is just a sheep but kg.
Arch rival + ditching the guys that got him a ring + less money = traitor. I will lose so much respect for the Celtics organisation if they retire his jersey.

Pierce was traded ::) didnt just walk out like Ray... KG is a super competitor, I understand him wanting to have another crack at the title. I thank him for getting us banner 17! Why would he or Pierce want to be in Boston if the front office didnt want them there? Ainge pushed his legeds out the door, whereas Ray was offered a very good contract to stay! Yes I know there had been talks of trading Ray but Pierce has probably been involved in about twice as money trade rumours yet he still didnt want to leave Boston.

Cant wait to see Pierce, KG and co. absolutely pound Lebron and weakass Ray in the playoffs.

the sad thing is the brooklyn has beens will probably get knocked out before they can face the 2 time defending champs.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 16, 2013, 04:33:23 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D
I don't think Curry will catch him tbh! Ray is still going!
Curry is well on track to catch him, if he keeps at this current rate, he will smash that record

Injuries though, Allen has stayed up the top for soo long and is still a great player. Hopefully he gets a few more rings to match his legendary status
well Curry looks fine with his injuries at the moment and the fact that he takes and hits so many threes at a young age is phenominal
Ray Allen is still going, I think he could still do one more season after this one. Curry spent a while in College so he's already 25, which people seem to ignore. Before last season Curry's numbers weren't phenomenal...

Curry is 2585 three pointers behind Allen, plus whatever Ray hits this season. I'll be surprised if Curry plays past 34/35... 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 16, 2013, 06:21:18 PM
GSW play match tonight, my boy!  ;D
I think you've found a keeper there Tbag!

Can't wait until he beats the ultimate traitor's all-time three point record! He's already broke his single season record :D and Danny Green nabbed his Finals threepoint record too ;D
I don't think Curry will catch him tbh! Ray is still going!
Curry is well on track to catch him, if he keeps at this current rate, he will smash that record

Injuries though, Allen has stayed up the top for soo long and is still a great player. Hopefully he gets a few more rings to match his legendary status
well Curry looks fine with his injuries at the moment and the fact that he takes and hits so many threes at a young age is phenominal
Ray Allen is still going, I think he could still do one more season after this one. Curry spent a while in College so he's already 25, which people seem to ignore. Before last season Curry's numbers weren't phenomenal...

Curry is 2585 three pointers behind Allen, plus whatever Ray hits this season. I'll be surprised if Curry plays past 34/35...
as far as three point shooting, it is a skill that an older player can play on any team, players really don't age badly with their shooting stroke that much. Curry will be 35-36 when he overtakes Allens three point record, Curry is already a better three point shooter than Ray was ever. those old Seattle three point loving teams certainly helped Ray's record out.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 16, 2013, 06:38:33 PM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 16, 2013, 06:57:47 PM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Yeah. Curry now > Ray Allen ever. Ray has just done it for longer... Curry can create off the dribble so much better than Allen, thats the main difference!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on October 16, 2013, 07:00:15 PM
Curry is a better player, as good as Ray was, this boy has serious talent ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Yeah. Curry now > Ray Allen ever. Ray has just done it for longer... Curry can create off the dribble so much better than Allen, thats the main difference!

If Allen was still with the Celtics in the big 3 I doubt you will say that.

Curry could be better than Allen.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 16, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Yeah. Curry now > Ray Allen ever. Ray has just done it for longer... Curry can create off the dribble so much better than Allen, thats the main difference!

If Allen was still with the Celtics in the big 3 I doubt you will say that.

Curry could be is better than Allen.
Doubt it. He wasn't the reason we got banner 17 and he wasn't even good enough for the starting role in his later days.

Fixed that for you btw...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 16, 2013, 08:32:43 PM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Yeah. Curry now > Ray Allen ever. Ray has just done it for longer... Curry can create off the dribble so much better than Allen, thats the main difference!

If Allen was still with the Celtics in the big 3 I doubt you will say that.

Curry could be is better than Allen.
Doubt it. He wasn't the reason we got banner 17 and he wasn't even good enough for the starting role in his later days.

Fixed that for you btw...

While I think curry prime beats Allen prime to be greater he needs to keep it up.

In the same way prime Irving beats prime pierce. ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 16, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Yeah. Curry now > Ray Allen ever. Ray has just done it for longer... Curry can create off the dribble so much better than Allen, thats the main difference!

If Allen was still with the Celtics in the big 3 I doubt you will say that.

Curry could be is better than Allen.
Doubt it. He wasn't the reason we got banner 17 and he wasn't even good enough for the starting role in his later days.

Fixed that for you btw...

While I think curry prime beats Allen prime to be greater he needs to keep it up.

In the same way prime Irving beats prime pierce. ;)
That's probably a fair statement. He isn't even close to Ray in terms of all-time great SG's

Can't compare those too ::) and how is Irving prime > prime Pierce? Do you not remember Paul Pierce at the peak of his powers?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 17, 2013, 05:05:03 AM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Yeah. Curry now > Ray Allen ever. Ray has just done it for longer... Curry can create off the dribble so much better than Allen, thats the main difference!

If Allen was still with the Celtics in the big 3 I doubt you will say that.

Curry could be is better than Allen.
Doubt it. He wasn't the reason we got banner 17 and he wasn't even good enough for the starting role in his later days.

Fixed that for you btw...

While I think curry prime beats Allen prime to be greater he needs to keep it up.

In the same way prime Irving beats prime pierce. ;)

lol Pierce can score as well as Irving can, oh and Pierce plays defence, Irving plays.....well he can score
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 17, 2013, 05:05:50 AM
So you're saying after one good season, Curry is a better three point shooter than undoubtedly (Besides Reggie Miller, although Ray still tops him), the greatest three point shooter ever?
Yeah. Curry now > Ray Allen ever. Ray has just done it for longer... Curry can create off the dribble so much better than Allen, thats the main difference!

If Allen was still with the Celtics in the big 3 I doubt you will say that.

Curry could be is better than Allen.
Doubt it. He wasn't the reason we got banner 17 and he wasn't even good enough for the starting role in his later days.

Fixed that for you btw...

While I think curry prime beats Allen prime to be greater he needs to keep it up.

In the same way prime Irving beats prime pierce. ;)
That's probably a fair statement. He isn't even close to Ray in terms of all-time great SG's

Can't compare those too ::) and how is Irving prime > prime Pierce? Do you not remember Paul Pierce at the peak of his powers?
i think he is winding you up
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 17, 2013, 10:52:44 AM
Bulls are owning Detroit here.

Rose has 13 point, 2 assists & a block in 11 minutes.

Now has 18 including a a three point play with one second to go in the half.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 17, 2013, 03:48:58 PM
Holz has to be just having a troll ::) such blasphemy to one of the great SFs to ever play this game!

Celts lose to Raptors again but KellyO is showing major promise over the last 2 games!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2013, 04:10:13 PM
Holz has to be just having a troll ::) such blasphemy to one of the great SFs to ever play this game!

Celts lose to Raptors again but KellyO is showing major promise over the last 2 games!

to be fair you started it talking done ray allen, the best shooter to over play the game.

such disrespect to allen, you say the ring was due to PP and KG, how about Allens tied game high 26 points in game 6.

this talk of prime, i could easily argue that prime shaq beats prime MJ.

if irving ever gets some D and stays fit he could easily overtake PP.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 17, 2013, 04:13:09 PM
In other news....

Kobe is ranked 25th on the top NBA players going into the new season according to ESPN.

They have Bosh ahead of him.

I call bullshower.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2013, 04:17:57 PM
In other news....

Kobe is ranked 25th on the top NBA players going into the new season according to ESPN.

They have Bosh ahead of him.

I call bullshower.

Bosh shouldnt be ahead of him and its a little low but outside the top 15 is fair.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 17, 2013, 04:20:45 PM
Holz has to be just having a troll ::) such blasphemy to one of the great SFs to ever play this game!

Celts lose to Raptors again but KellyO is showing major promise over the last 2 games!

to be fair you started it talking done ray allen, the best shooter to over play the game.

such disrespect to allen, you say the ring was due to PP and KG, how about Allens tied game high 26 points in game 6.

this talk of prime, i could easily argue that prime shaq beats prime MJ.

if irving ever gets some D and stays fit he could easily overtake PP.
But Curry right now does beat Ray! He is a more talented player but whether he can keep it up like Ray has remains to be seen. I think thats a fair point?

Im not disrespecting Allen. He wasnt the reason we got banner 17, KG was! Ray's 26 points in game 6 hahah how can you use that in the argument? We won that game by over 30... If I were you I would have referenced his game-winning layup earlier in the series :) the shake and bake straight past Sasha V.

Nothing beats MJ prime. Shaq comes close but doesnt get there.

"could easily overtake PP" thats a joke. Pierce is better in pretty much every way!



In other news....

Kobe is ranked 25th on the top NBA players going into the new season according to ESPN.

They have Bosh ahead of him.

I call bullshower.
I was going to post that this afternoon actually! As Stephan A says... "SUCH BLASPHEMY"

Kobe is probably in that 10-5 range.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 17, 2013, 04:26:17 PM
When I saw Bosh ahead of him.....:

(http://www.comicsandmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/WTF-did-i-just-read-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 17, 2013, 05:13:41 PM
Kobe is just the kinda player that people love to write-off. "experts" have been doing it for his whole career... Doesnt stop him from proving them wrong though ;)

Sure, I dont like Kobe for what he did to us in 2010 but I respect him! Whether you like it or not, he's the closest thing we'll ever see to MJ!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 17, 2013, 05:40:21 PM
Kobe is just the kinda player that people love to write-off. "experts" have been doing it for his whole career... Doesnt stop him from proving them wrong though ;)

Sure, I dont like Kobe for what he did to us in 2010 but I respect him! Whether you like it or not, he's the closest thing we'll ever see to MJ!
What? As in the most MJ-like SG?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 17, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
In other news....

Kobe is ranked 25th on the top NBA players going into the new season according to ESPN.

They have Bosh ahead of him.

I call bullshower.
it is a predicted ranking for the coming season, not on what they have done in the past
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 17, 2013, 06:31:39 PM
Kobe is just the kinda player that people love to write-off. "experts" have been doing it for his whole career... Doesnt stop him from proving them wrong though ;)

Sure, I dont like Kobe for what he did to us in 2010 but I respect him! Whether you like it or not, he's the closest thing we'll ever see to MJ!
because he stole MJ'S moves, other than that, no one has come close to him
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 17, 2013, 07:04:54 PM
Kobe is just the kinda player that people love to write-off. "experts" have been doing it for his whole career... Doesnt stop him from proving them wrong though ;)

Sure, I dont like Kobe for what he did to us in 2010 but I respect him! Whether you like it or not, he's the closest thing we'll ever see to MJ!
What? As in the most MJ-like SG?
Yes. Just the way the too play is quite similar. Not saying Kobe is #2 all time to MJ, saying that he is the most similar to MJ. The scoring at will, same build, similar height, clutch gene, lights out mid-range game, super athletic in the younger days, great FT shooter, can finish strongly with either handy etc. And of course the stuff you can't measure with stats like heart, determination and competitiveness.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 17, 2013, 11:00:14 PM
That clutch gene that Le Bron lacks?  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 17, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
That clutch gene that Le Bron lacks?  ;D

I must have stumbled through a black hole and transported back to 2011.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 18, 2013, 12:30:50 AM
Once you have a clutch that slips, it is always in the back of your mind.  ;D

Number 2 fantasy player this year and you know it if you know anything about statistics.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2013, 06:23:34 AM
That clutch gene that Le Bron lacks?  ;D
Ah I'll never forget that 8-point game in the finals :)

He's better now but I'm still giving it to Kobe, KD or Melo every single time.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 18, 2013, 07:04:24 AM
Once you have a clutch that slips, it is always in the back of your mind.  ;D

Number 2 fantasy player this year and you know it if you know anything about statistics.
Durant has been the number 1 fantasy player the past few seasons now
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2013, 07:39:55 AM
That clutch gene that Le Bron lacks?  ;D
Ah I'll never forget that 8-point game in the finals :)

He's better now but I'm still giving it to Kobe, KD or Melo every single time.

Kd is young so it's alright but what has melo won. Has a horrible playoffs record.

And yes durrant is number 1 fantasy due to his effeciency.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 18, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1814162-lebron-goes-on-defensive-in-response-to-peers-skepticism-of-his-clutch-factor

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWtXfCzCMAE-DEc.png)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 18, 2013, 09:45:47 AM
Love stats - but ask Holzman to check the power of this set of low numbers.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2013, 10:42:20 AM
Love stats - but ask Holzman to check the power of this set of low numbers.

it is a low sample size however in a game where a few plays/games can define your career e.g. Ray Allens 3, Lebrons 10/11 series these stats are pretty damming. The trend is big enough even with this sample size, almost double the percentage is damming.

you might say LBJ takes higher percentage shots, but in truth thats a postivie not something to critisize him for. Why jack up a 3 when you can do a layup. Game winning layups are more impressive than 3s.

I have always said that Lebron's is super clutch and its easily the most under valued part of his game. Those stats are damming for Kobe not only does it show that he shoots too much (we all know that) his percentage just shows he isnt as good as everyone says and its a joke that Kobe is super clutch and LBJ is a choker.

Also shows that Lebron plays alot of final games and will likely have the most game tying/game winning shots in playoff history once he retires. Not bad for a choker. He also did most of this in Cleveland, his last 2 years he has been given credit, the truth is he chocked in 2010/2011 and every other year he was clutch.


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 18, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
And with that, the bookies wind Holzman's odds in just a bit.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 18, 2013, 11:52:26 AM
the winning play for the Spurs today was all Australian

Aron Baynes makes 8-foot jumper (Patty Mills assists)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 18, 2013, 12:00:10 PM
 Pity it's not playoff time.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 18, 2013, 03:27:43 PM
And what about shots made with 20 seconds left...?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 18, 2013, 03:44:39 PM
LeBron's clutch is yawn.

Gimme a 3 point fade away buzzer beater any day...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2013, 03:57:05 PM
LeBron's clutch is yawn.

Gimme a 3 point fade away buzzer beater any day...

kobe can give you a 3 point brick or air ball, ill take the lebron easy 2 every day of the week.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2013, 04:01:18 PM
Lebron isn't on Kobe's level of clutchness! Not yet anyway!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
Lebron isn't on Kobe's level of clutchness! Not yet anyway!

not sure if my maths is correct but im pretty sure 6/14 beats 5/22
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
Lebron isn't on Kobe's level of clutchness! Not yet anyway!

not sure if my maths is correct but im pretty sure 6/14 beats 5/22
I don't think you can definitely use that stat to say whom has the better clutch gene. I'll make another judgement when LeBron retires but for now, I'm still giving it all to Kobe. Seems to just have that killer instinct LeBron doesn't have to the same extent.

5 championships beats 2!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2013, 04:22:12 PM
Lebron isn't on Kobe's level of clutchness! Not yet anyway!

not sure if my maths is correct but im pretty sure 6/14 beats 5/22
I don't think you can definitely use that stat to say whom has the better clutch gene. I'll make another judgement when LeBron retires but for now, I'm still giving it all to Kobe. Seems to just have that killer instinct LeBron doesn't have to the same extent.

5 championships beats 2!

give Lebron prime shaq when he was younger and he would have more rings than MJ and Kobe
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2013, 04:28:09 PM
Lebron isn't on Kobe's level of clutchness! Not yet anyway!

not sure if my maths is correct but im pretty sure 6/14 beats 5/22
I don't think you can definitely use that stat to say whom has the better clutch gene. I'll make another judgement when LeBron retires but for now, I'm still giving it all to Kobe. Seems to just have that killer instinct LeBron doesn't have to the same extent.

5 championships beats 2!

give Lebron prime shaq when he was younger and he would have more rings than MJ and Kobe
He had prime Mo Williams & Delonte West. Does that count? :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 18, 2013, 05:17:22 PM
Lebron isn't on Kobe's level of clutchness! Not yet anyway!

not sure if my maths is correct but im pretty sure 6/14 beats 5/22
I don't think you can definitely use that stat to say whom has the better clutch gene. I'll make another judgement when LeBron retires but for now, I'm still giving it all to Kobe. Seems to just have that killer instinct LeBron doesn't have to the same extent.

5 championships beats 2!

give Lebron prime shaq when he was younger and he would have more rings than MJ and Kobe
He had prime Mo Williams & Delonte West. Does that count? :P
their prime they were barely role players.

if that counts than Scalabrinie carried the celtics to their 08 flag.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 18, 2013, 05:34:13 PM
Lebron isn't on Kobe's level of clutchness! Not yet anyway!

not sure if my maths is correct but im pretty sure 6/14 beats 5/22
I don't think you can definitely use that stat to say whom has the better clutch gene. I'll make another judgement when LeBron retires but for now, I'm still giving it all to Kobe. Seems to just have that killer instinct LeBron doesn't have to the same extent.

5 championships beats 2!

give Lebron prime shaq when he was younger and he would have more rings than MJ and Kobe
He had prime Mo Williams & Delonte West. Does that count? :P
their prime they were barely role players.

if that counts than Scalabrinie carried the celtics to their 08 flag.
I still remember teasing my mates when Scal got a ring before LeBron ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 19, 2013, 11:42:24 AM
In other news....

Kobe is ranked 25th on the top NBA players going into the new season according to ESPN.

They have Bosh ahead of him.

I call bullshower.

Bosh shouldnt be ahead of him and its a little low but outside the top 15 is fair.
(http://i.qkme.me/3pxb9d.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 19, 2013, 11:56:33 AM
It's coming into the 2013-2014 season he is coming off a major injury and is old.

It's like saying anything lower than 3 is disrespectful to rose.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 19, 2013, 11:59:55 AM
It's coming into the 2013-2014 season he is coming off a major injury and is old.

It's like saying anything lower than 3 is disrespectful to rose.
I can pretty much guarantee that Kobe will finish the season as still a top 10 player. Its just how he works.

Rose needs to prove himself again, Kobe doesnt.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 19, 2013, 12:12:30 PM
J - you seeing Chicago v Indiana?

Care to reconsider?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 19, 2013, 12:34:30 PM
J - you seeing Chicago v Indiana?

Care to reconsider?
I'm still on Indiana..... For now!

I just think they have a better chance of knocking off the heat. If they come up against the Bulls though, I'll be more worried. Hard to explain but I reckon they can beat the Heat but will struggle with Chicago.

We saw how LeBron shut down Rose last time they met in the playoffs... Not sure if LeBron can do the same to PG24!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 19, 2013, 01:32:44 PM
You think it's bit like Hawks Cats Pies USED to be.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 22, 2013, 06:43:06 PM
Had way too much time on my hands today. Decided to research into some of my favorites.

Jeff Green - you know Boston was 14-4 without Rondo last season right? But you probably didn't know that Green averaged 15.1 points over that stretch, with good shooting splits and solid defense! Also notched up 20ppg in the playoffs. Look for him to carry that production through to 2014, I'm predicting 18ppg.

Avery Bradley - My prediction is that AB will become an even better defender in 2014. Over 50 games last season, Synergy Sports Data shows that AB limited opponents to just 0.697 points per play. Opponents also only shot 30.8% against him while scoring 31.8% of the time... All three marks were a league low among players with at least 475 total defensive possessions

Jared Sullinger - Sully logged a total of 25mins or more 9 times last year. In those instances, Sully averaged 12 points and 10.3 rebounds on 60% shooting. As well as this, on defense he allowed just 0.708 points per play. That ranked third among players with at least 300 possessions.

Kelly Olynyk - In 5 summer league games, KellyO averaged 18 points, 8 boards, 2 steals in just 24mins per game. He averaged 1.084 point per play with fared 2nd in the tourmament among players with at least 30 offensive plays. He has backed this up by probably being our preseason MVP... In the 4 games he's played more than 20 minutes in, his averages are 13 points, 5 boards on 60% shooting. Remember that's only on average, 24 minutes! Impressive numbers for a rookie.

Boston Celtics - we're going to go 35-47 this season which won't be too far off an 8th seed. Sucks because with Rondo we'd be able to snare that 8th spot!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 23, 2013, 02:34:39 PM
Mills had a good game today Vs Orlando.

23 minutes. 9/15 FG, 3/7 3PT, 3 boards, 2 assists, 5 steals, 2 blocks & 22 points.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on October 23, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Mills had a good game today Vs Orlando.

23 minutes. 9/15 FG, 3/7 3PT, 3 boards, 2 assists, 5 steals, 2 blocks & 22 points.
Hopefully he's our backup PG this year - I think he's in front of de Colo but Joseph is some stiff resistance.

Didn't realise he's only 25 too, so time for improvement.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 23, 2013, 04:12:05 PM
Hearing rumours of a Rondo for Granger trade. flower no >:(

I hate Danny Ainge enough as it is for trading 2 of our legends + Perkins a couple of years back ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2013, 05:23:17 PM
Hearing rumours of a Rondo for Granger trade. flower no >:(

I hate Danny Ainge enough as it is for trading 2 of our legends + Perkins a couple of years back ::)

horrible move,

would make the pacers a massive threat.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 23, 2013, 07:42:42 PM
Pacers already are a massive threat. Will take out the eastern conference for sure.

Btw I spent a lot of time on my previous post, all to get... no responses! :P screw you guys haha!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2013, 07:44:49 PM
Pacers already are a massive threat. Will take out the eastern conference for sure.

Btw I spent a lot of time on my previous post, all to get... no responses! :P screw you guys haha!

Celtics are completely irrelevant now. Not good enough to do anything and not bad enough to get Wiggins.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 23, 2013, 07:53:38 PM
Pacers already are a massive threat. Will take out the eastern conference for sure.

Btw I spent a lot of time on my previous post, all to get... no responses! :P screw you guys haha!

Celtics are completely irrelevant now. Not good enough to do anything and not bad enough to get Wiggins.
False! Maybe this season will be tough but the core of Rondo, Green, Olynyk, Sullinger, Bradley will go places and its the Boston Celtics we're talking about, we will be able to land a big free agent! Probably in the 2015 period we will try and grab a star.

Of course we are bad enough to get Wiggins. Chicago picked up D-Rose when they had the ninth-worst record, and just a 1.7% chance to win. Anything can happen! We are going to be awful until Rondo comes back, then we'll look like a team that is good enough for that 8th seed, will be too late then though! But I don't think trading Rondo is the answer... I'd let Rondo take the whole season off! Get ourselves a top 3 draft pick and go full tilt from 2014 onwards!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
Pacers already are a massive threat. Will take out the eastern conference for sure.

Btw I spent a lot of time on my previous post, all to get... no responses! :P screw you guys haha!

Celtics are completely irrelevant now. Not good enough to do anything and not bad enough to get Wiggins.
False! Maybe this season will be tough but the core of Rondo, Green, Olynyk, Sullinger, Bradley will go places and its the Boston Celtics we're talking about, we will be able to land a big free agent! Probably in the 2015 period we will try and grab a star.

Of course we are bad enough to get Wiggins. Chicago picked up D-Rose when they had the ninth-worst record, and just a 1.7% chance to win. Anything can happen! We are going to be awful until Rondo comes back, then we'll look like a team that is good enough for that 8th seed, will be too late then though! But I don't think trading Rondo is the answer... I'd let Rondo take the whole season off! Get ourselves a top 3 draft pick and go full tilt from 2014 onwards!

All the attention is on the heat pacers Brooklyn bulls and Cavs. Nobody will this year about Boston.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 23, 2013, 08:17:37 PM
Cavs? Really? Gonna include them in that bracket? No way!

All I want from this season is Andrew Wiggins and a better record than the Lakers. Is that too much to ask? ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2013, 08:21:59 PM
Cavs? Really? Gonna include them in that bracket? No way!

All I want from this season is Andrew Wiggins and a better record than the Lakers. Is that too much to ask? ;)

I didn't say eastern conference winners I said interest.

With Irving an up and coming superstar
Bynum coming back from injury
Bennet current number 1 pick
High picks like Thompson waiters etc...

They will get massive amounts of attention. The only reason Celtics will get it is because they are the Celtics, this season will be a snooze fest for them.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 23, 2013, 08:29:14 PM
Irving = no defense
Bynum = finished
Bennet = he'll be the bust of the draft
Thompson = doesn't even know what hand to shoot with. How weird is that? I mean, why?
Waiters = no basketball smarts, just jacks up shots. He's a Cavs version of Jordan Crawford...

Seeing some of the best young talent in the league doesn't seem like a snooze fest to me :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 23, 2013, 09:01:54 PM
Irving = no defense
Bynum = finished
Bennet = he'll be the bust of the draft
Thompson = doesn't even know what hand to shoot with. How weird is that? I mean, why?
Waiters = no basketball smarts, just jacks up shots. He's a Cavs version of Jordan Crawford...

Seeing some of the best young talent in the league doesn't seem like a snooze fest to me :)

You just bad mouthed the east team with the most young talent. The only competition in the comp is the pelicans.

Irving has such good offense it doesn't matter plus give him time he hasn't even had a full preseason.

Bynum, not long ago you were talking him up as the best centre in the comp

Bennett I wasn't happy with him either but number 1 picks always get attention.

Thompson will be a double double machine and being ambi dextorous is not a bad thing.

Waiters possible mip.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 23, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
Hearing rumours of a Rondo for Granger trade. flower no >:(

I hate Danny Ainge enough as it is for trading 2 of our legends + Perkins a couple of years back ::)

I highly doubt that would happen.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 23, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
I'm happy with the position the Celtics are in atm and this is set to be one of my most exciting years as a Boston fan yet!

Hearing rumours of a Rondo for Granger trade. flower no >:(

I hate Danny Ainge enough as it is for trading 2 of our legends + Perkins a couple of years back ::)

I highly doubt that would happen.
I doubted Ainge would trade Pierce and KG for scrubs yet he did that... The guy's craziness knows no bounds!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 24, 2013, 08:51:16 AM
a bit of normality is back with the NBA today with 11 games today
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 24, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
But Celtics favored to win one - for a change!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 24, 2013, 11:50:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix64QPX7xY8
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on October 24, 2013, 02:09:16 PM
Wow.

If he stays healthy - threepeat!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 24, 2013, 02:52:44 PM
Oden won't play more than 10-15 mpg this season, he still has a long way to go
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 24, 2013, 02:53:38 PM
Derek Favors looks like he could be right up near the top of the rebounding list this season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 24, 2013, 03:54:58 PM
Celtics beat Brooklyn ;)

VITOR FAVERANI WITH 6 BLOCKS! #beast
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 24, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
Oden won't play more than 10-15 mpg this season, he still has a long way to go
It really doesn't matter. They just need him to be healthy in the playoffs. They'll ease him into it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 24, 2013, 05:23:00 PM
A 25 year old rookie gets 6 blocks and no one bats an eye. An injury prone bust dunks the ball everyone loses their minds ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 24, 2013, 05:42:04 PM
Oden won't play more than 10-15 mpg this season, he still has a long way to go
It really doesn't matter. They just need him to be healthy in the playoffs. They'll ease him into it.
even in the playoffs he will play only 15-20mpg off the bench maybe, depends on his conditioning
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 24, 2013, 08:27:45 PM
A 25 year old rookie gets 6 blocks and no one bats an eye. An injury prone bust dunks the ball everyone loses their minds ::)

thats like saying Brian Scalabrine was a star.................
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 24, 2013, 08:38:31 PM
A 25 year old rookie gets 6 blocks and no one bats an eye. An injury prone bust dunks the ball everyone loses their minds ::)

thats like saying Brian Scalabrine was a star.................
more rings than Paul, Melo, Rose, Durant and Westbrook combined.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 24, 2013, 08:49:33 PM
rings arent the only things that matter
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 24, 2013, 08:52:51 PM
rings arent the only things that matter
But they are the most important :) you dont think Charles Barkley or Karl Malone would have cashed in their MVPs for a ring? You bet they would!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 24, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
considering how long their careers were no doubt they would trade MVP's for rings
not my fault that Jordan was so beast :'(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 24, 2013, 08:59:48 PM
considering how long their careers were no doubt they would trade MVP's for rings
not my fault that Jordan was so beast :'(
If you wanna be the best you gotta beat the best!

Malone came very close... '96 wasnt it? When Jordan stripped it off Malone and hit the jumpshot for the championship?

I always think about how different it would be if MJ didn't retire in the middle of his prime for those 2 seasons... He could of won 8 championships in a row... :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 24, 2013, 09:02:19 PM
96-97 they could have won yeah.... and no doubt Jordan would probably would have won both those as well
add to the fact no-one was happy when Malone won the MVP the first time
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 24, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
96-97 they could have won yeah.... and no doubt Jordan would probably would have won both those as well
add to the fact no-one was happy when Malone won the MVP the first time
I think Malone deserved his MVP award during the MVP era.

Charles I'm not so sure about...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on October 24, 2013, 10:13:28 PM
Oden will do a Roy. He will play a month, his knee will give out and then he will retire.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 25, 2013, 01:27:48 AM
96-97 they could have won yeah.... and no doubt Jordan would probably would have won both those as well
add to the fact no-one was happy when Malone won the MVP the first time
I think Malone deserved his MVP award during the MVP era.

Charles I'm not so sure about...

Malone did get 2 MVP's
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 25, 2013, 06:30:33 AM
96-97 they could have won yeah.... and no doubt Jordan would probably would have won both those as well
add to the fact no-one was happy when Malone won the MVP the first time
I think Malone deserved his MVP award during the MVP era.

Charles I'm not so sure about...

Malone did get 2 MVP's
Wasnt one of them once MJ retired?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 25, 2013, 04:07:07 PM
1997 and 1999
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 25, 2013, 07:05:20 PM
Still can't believe ESPN ranked Rondo the #27 player in the league ::) I swear those guys just make crazy calls to create controversy...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 26, 2013, 11:41:43 PM
Still can't believe ESPN ranked Rondo the #27 player in the league ::) I swear those guys just make crazy calls to create controversy...
people read those rankings wrongly, it is the 27th best player for the up coming season, Not on what they have done so far
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 27, 2013, 08:52:35 AM
Still can't believe ESPN ranked Rondo the #27 player in the league ::) I swear those guys just make crazy calls to create controversy...
people read those rankings wrongly, it is the 27th best player for the up coming season, Not on what they have done so far
Yes, I understand that. But Rondo should still be way higher... Like Irving is #7 ffs and Rondo >>> Irving.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 27, 2013, 09:53:49 AM
Still can't believe ESPN ranked Rondo the #27 player in the league ::) I swear those guys just make crazy calls to create controversy...
people read those rankings wrongly, it is the 27th best player for the up coming season, Not on what they have done so far
Yes, I understand that. But Rondo should still be way higher... Like Irving is #7 ffs and Rondo >>> Irving.
yeah but we don't know when Rondo will be back, it is just like the Kobe ranking
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 27, 2013, 09:56:22 AM
Still can't believe ESPN ranked Rondo the #27 player in the league ::) I swear those guys just make crazy calls to create controversy...
people read those rankings wrongly, it is the 27th best player for the up coming season, Not on what they have done so far
Yes, I understand that. But Rondo should still be way higher... Like Irving is #7 ffs and Rondo >>> Irving.
yeah but we don't know when Rondo will be back, it is just like the Kobe ranking
Rondo will be back in December. Mark my words.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 28, 2013, 03:52:18 PM
Guess what just arrived in the mail...

My Vince Carter Toronto shirt  8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 28, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
Joakim Noah will play in the season opener.



Oh, and I could watch this all day every day. I remember this game so well :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lII_ZSj0YWo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 28, 2013, 08:08:54 PM
Guess what just arrived in the mail...

My Vince Carter Toronto shirt  8)
did you order it in 1999 ?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 28, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
Guess what just arrived in the mail...

My Vince Carter Toronto shirt  8)
did you order it in 1999 ?
Haha  ;D Nah it's a remake - real though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 29, 2013, 09:16:52 PM
Uncle Drew Part 3!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 30, 2013, 07:40:32 AM
Not as good as part 2 imo
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 30, 2013, 09:35:33 AM
Hibbert rebound city, 12 in the first quarter.

helps that my man harris isnt out there.


edit slowed down on the boards only on 16. i was thinking he could push 25. but 7 blocks.

block city.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 30, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
Miami 97 - Chicago 89

Lebron James 17 points
Chris Bosh 16 points
Shane Battier 14 points
Mario Chalmers 13 points
Dwayne Wade 13 points
Norris Cole 11 points
Ray Allen 11 points

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 30, 2013, 03:08:17 PM
2 former top 12 picks lead the Lakers to a big win over the Clippers
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 30, 2013, 03:27:35 PM
Wtf Clippers ::)

Indiana are undefeated while Chicago are yet to win a game ;) thats how it should be :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 30, 2013, 11:25:00 PM
Wtf Clippers ::)

Indiana are undefeated while Chicago are yet to win a game ;) thats how it should be :P

No kobe and they win, why am I not suprised.

Clippers overated no clue how many have ripped them to win west.


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 30, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
great team win by the Lakers especially as they rested Gasol for all of the 4th quarter
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 07:30:58 AM
Sucked in Doc Rivers :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 31, 2013, 08:05:05 AM
Clippers think just because they have Pual they are are automatically soooo good.  ::)

Henry is a great pickup!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 31, 2013, 08:58:57 AM
love that LP is on the Xbox 360  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 31, 2013, 11:16:33 AM
Michael Carter-Williams creates a record with 9 steals in his first game as Philadelphia beat Miami, he had 20pts 7rebs 12asts 9stls
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on October 31, 2013, 12:22:17 PM
God dammit Pelicans. Got really excited then they choked :P

Still my second team!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 03:44:53 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on October 31, 2013, 03:49:51 PM
Hot damn Dwight Howard!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on October 31, 2013, 03:50:30 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D
I actually think Philly owners will be dissapointed with a win :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on October 31, 2013, 03:54:02 PM
What a day!

Lovely to see Curry only score 2 threes today compared to Ray's 4  :P Disappointing to see the Celtics lose though  :'(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
Just think of it like this, Q... Every loss is a step closer to Andrew Wiggins :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on October 31, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 04:20:37 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
Well you should care enough to not lose to the worst team in the league.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 31, 2013, 04:39:14 PM
Haha, Miami.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on October 31, 2013, 06:18:09 PM
Patty Mills with 12 points from 17 minutes. 3 - 3 three pointers.

Casual 100% from the field  8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 06:19:56 PM
Patty Mills with 12 points from 17 minutes. 3 - 3 three pointers.

Casual 100% from the field  8)
Got a 4-point play ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: AFEV on October 31, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
KD dropped a 42 bomb, he'll be averaging 35+ points a night when Westbrook comes back...KD beast mode engaged.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 31, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Durant hopefully will get the scoring title back and the MVP this year.

Don't think he will challenge for a ring though...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: AFEV on October 31, 2013, 06:41:17 PM
Durant hopefully will get the scoring title back and the MVP this year.

Don't think he will challenge for a ring though...
I'm not entirely sure he'll ever be able to do that in OKC now...
But yeah I'd lock him in for the scoring title.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 06:44:07 PM
Agreed, KD will average around 35 until Russ comes back... But man, he had to throw his body around and get to the line heaps just to beat Utah. His shooting was horrible (apart from FT).

KD and OKC both need Westbrook back. And fast.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on October 31, 2013, 06:44:23 PM
I dunno, I mean a bit more improvement in Russ, Durant and Ibaka who are all pretty young and the emergence of Lamb + some other depth players and OKC could challenge. Maybe not this season, but eventually.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 06:45:50 PM
KD will definitely get to the finals again with OKC... But not if Ibaka is their 3rd scorer!

Lamb needs to develop into a consistent high-level scorer.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on October 31, 2013, 06:49:10 PM
OKC really need another bit player behind Durant & Westbrook IMO.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 06:59:29 PM
Should've just payed the tax and kept Harden.

Westbrook, Harden, KD, Ibaka all in their primes would be like a threepeat lol.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 31, 2013, 07:05:01 PM
everyone knew allowing Harden to leave was dumb
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 07:18:18 PM
everyone knew allowing Harden to leave was dumb
You haven't posted your wrap of the Miami game today ;) hahahahaha
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 31, 2013, 07:41:45 PM
i only saw the second half......
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on October 31, 2013, 07:44:06 PM
i only saw the second half......
First quarter was pure epicness. LeBrick getting dunked on had me in stitches ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on October 31, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
Houston debut for Dwight Howard he posts 17 points and ties a career high with 26 rebounds
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 31, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
when did that happen.....you mean Ray Allen is the clutch playoff player..............maybe some Heat people forgot the finals against Dallas, LeBron in last years finals only shot .500 in 2 of the 7 games...................it is going to take a lot for us to regard him as a clutch playoff performer
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on October 31, 2013, 11:05:35 PM
Houston debut for Dwight Howard he posts 17 points and ties a career high with 26 rebounds
Asik had a quiet 14 rebounds next to him  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 01, 2013, 12:40:07 AM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
when did that happen.....you mean Ray Allen is the clutch playoff player..............maybe some Heat people forgot the finals against Dallas, LeBron in last years finals only shot .500 in 2 of the 7 games...................it is going to take a lot for us to regard him as a clutch playoff performer

Clutch is not just about jacking up shots at the end of games to win..... its making the right decisions.... if you think that the decision to pass out to Ray Allen in game 6 was the wrong choice then congrats
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 01, 2013, 06:57:49 AM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
when did that happen.....you mean Ray Allen is the clutch playoff player..............maybe some Heat people forgot the finals against Dallas, LeBron in last years finals only shot .500 in 2 of the 7 games...................it is going to take a lot for us to regard him as a clutch playoff performer

Clutch is not just about jacking up shots at the end of games to win..... its making the right decisions.... if you think that the decision to pass out to Ray Allen in game 6 was the wrong choice then congrats
Um that wasn't Lebron who passed it out to Allen. All LeBron did on that play was brick a three! They just got lucky TimmyD wasn't in the game :o

LeBron isn't a 2011 finals level choker any more but he certainly isn't a KD, Irving, Kobe, MJ, Pierce, Joe Johnson performer in the clutch. Easy to say he is just cos he's the best player in the world though... LeBron is just lucky Ray hit that shot because the choker labels would come out again... He has 2 turnovers in like the last minute and missed that three to tie to the game!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 01, 2013, 07:32:52 AM
LeBrick missed 5 of 6 4th qtr shots, lost the ball on a drive down the middle and bricked a 6-footer on the next possession.

Hahahahahah
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 01, 2013, 08:31:16 AM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
when did that happen.....you mean Ray Allen is the clutch playoff player..............maybe some Heat people forgot the finals against Dallas, LeBron in last years finals only shot .500 in 2 of the 7 games...................it is going to take a lot for us to regard him as a clutch playoff performer

Clutch is not just about jacking up shots at the end of games to win..... its making the right decisions.... if you think that the decision to pass out to Ray Allen in game 6 was the wrong choice then congrats
like it was said by Jayman, LeBron didn't make the pass to Allen on that play, thanks to Ray Allen(and the luxury tax which brought that team together) he got his chance in game 7 to get his second ring
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 01, 2013, 12:42:02 PM
Bulls beat NY by one. Melo with the hail mary from halfway misses & Chandler gets the offensive board and misses the put back.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 01, 2013, 01:59:52 PM
Bulls beat NY by one. Melo with the hail mary from halfway misses & Chandler gets the offensive board and misses the put back.

This look is priceless

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/672/o830.png)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 01, 2013, 03:34:26 PM
Bulls beat NY by one. Melo with the hail mary from halfway misses & Chandler gets the offensive board and misses the put back.
Melo's shot was actually just a long-two, wasn't far off and the tip in was pretty much impossible...

D-Rose with the game-winner :o such a good shot!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 01, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
Griffin had 3 consecutive alleys! #wow

Chris Paul and Steph Curry put on a PG show today :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 01, 2013, 03:41:56 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
when did that happen.....you mean Ray Allen is the clutch playoff player..............maybe some Heat people forgot the finals against Dallas, LeBron in last years finals only shot .500 in 2 of the 7 games...................it is going to take a lot for us to regard him as a clutch playoff performer

surely your joking. I love how haters say dont you remember the mavs series. My rebutal to that is dont you rememebr every other playoff season in his career.

he has had just 1 bad series in his whole playoff career.

do you remember his 2009 playoff series?

9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG !!!!!!

2006 playoff series

8.1 RPG 5.38 APG 30.8 PPG in his first ever trip to the finals

his 5 series in cleveland were amazing, and you cant argue against his 2 rings.

clutch isnt puting up a flukey 3, allen isnt clutch becasue he hit that 3 do it again and he may miss its all luck. peforming over the whole game to drag yourself over the line thats clutch.

if your going to argue that a man who puts up 9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG over a whole playoff run isnt clutch than your idea of clutch is wrong.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 01, 2013, 03:51:30 PM
LOL.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


clutch isnt puting up a flukey 3, allen isnt clutch becasue he hit that 3 do it again and he may miss its all luck. peforming over the whole game to drag yourself over the line thats clutch.

if your going to argue that a man who puts up 9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG over a whole playoff run isnt clutch than your idea of clutch is wrong.
Are you high?
 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 01, 2013, 03:56:57 PM
LeBron still has a lot to prove regarding his clutch gene.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 01, 2013, 04:00:39 PM
LOL.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


clutch isnt puting up a flukey 3, allen isnt clutch becasue he hit that 3 do it again and he may miss its all luck. peforming over the whole game to drag yourself over the line thats clutch.

if your going to argue that a man who puts up 9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG over a whole playoff run isnt clutch than your idea of clutch is wrong.
Are you high?

no, everyone know how hi i rate allen. the clutch part of that shot was getting into the position and having the oppurtunity to get the shot of. after that it all comes down to luck.

he hits and he is a hero, if he did the shot again 2/3 times he would miss it, its just lucky he got the 1/3. not many players could hit that shot 1/3 and thats why he is clutch.

its all a numbers game, shaq if you gave him enough shots could hit that shot, does that make him a clutch 3 point shooter, no

for me hitting a game winner means nothing, the important thing is on probability how likely were you to hit that shot of make that play.

its why i say lebron is a guy you want the ball in his hands when your 1-2 down. He is one of the best in the business of getting a 2 to tie the game.

if you want a 3, than its not who i would want, not because he isnt clutch but because he isnt the guy to take the shot. Really the guy i want it with is stephen curry.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 01, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Bulls beat NY by one. Melo with the hail mary from halfway misses & Chandler gets the offensive board and misses the put back.

This look is priceless

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/672/o830.png)

Hahaha, not bad.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 01, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
when did that happen.....you mean Ray Allen is the clutch playoff player..............maybe some Heat people forgot the finals against Dallas, LeBron in last years finals only shot .500 in 2 of the 7 games...................it is going to take a lot for us to regard him as a clutch playoff performer

surely your joking. I love how haters say dont you remember the mavs series. My rebutal to that is dont you rememebr every other playoff season in his career.

he has had just 1 bad series in his whole playoff career.

do you remember his 2009 playoff series?

9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG !!!!!!

2006 playoff series

8.1 RPG 5.38 APG 30.8 PPG in his first ever trip to the finals

his 5 series in cleveland were amazing, and you cant argue against his 2 rings.

clutch isnt puting up a flukey 3, allen isnt clutch becasue he hit that 3 do it again and he may miss its all luck. peforming over the whole game to drag yourself over the line thats clutch.

if your going to argue that a man who puts up 9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG over a whole playoff run isnt clutch than your idea of clutch is wrong.
what is this "haters" crap, should we all call everyone haters if they dislike something ? it seems Heat bandwagoners just want to use that saying over and over and over again because they think Miami is the centre of the universe and they don't come back with any good compelling argument, so they just use the old "haters" saying

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 01, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
Agreed. Any Heat fan just label people as 'haters' if they disagree.

Find it amazing that Miami fans can't even agree that Manu was fouled at the end of game 6.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 01, 2013, 05:25:05 PM
(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif) at the Heat losing to the 6'ers

They are one of the worst teams in the NBA right now since they are tanking and the Heat still couldn't beat them


(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/818591455.gif?1383175150)

(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif) at ET dunking on Bron Bron

it's almost as good as this


(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2316127/jrueham_medium.gif)

The great Jrue Holiday
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 01, 2013, 05:27:29 PM
Speaking of Jrue check out the Vine

http://fansided.com/2013/10/31/jrue-holiday-still-thinks-he-plays-for-the-76ers-video/
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 01, 2013, 05:30:42 PM
Lebron misses the game-winner and got dunked on by Turner as Philly beat Miami. Hahahahahaha sucked in bandwagoners! ;D

Meanwhile, the Green Machine goes off!

This is the regular season, we all know LeBron is a clutch playoff player. The heat simply don't care anymore in the regular season.
when did that happen.....you mean Ray Allen is the clutch playoff player..............maybe some Heat people forgot the finals against Dallas, LeBron in last years finals only shot .500 in 2 of the 7 games...................it is going to take a lot for us to regard him as a clutch playoff performer

surely your joking. I love how haters say dont you remember the mavs series. My rebutal to that is dont you rememebr every other playoff season in his career.

he has had just 1 bad series in his whole playoff career.

do you remember his 2009 playoff series?

9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG !!!!!!

2006 playoff series

8.1 RPG 5.38 APG 30.8 PPG in his first ever trip to the finals

his 5 series in cleveland were amazing, and you cant argue against his 2 rings.

clutch isnt puting up a flukey 3, allen isnt clutch becasue he hit that 3 do it again and he may miss its all luck. peforming over the whole game to drag yourself over the line thats clutch.

if your going to argue that a man who puts up 9.1 RPG 7.3 APG 35.3 PPG over a whole playoff run isnt clutch than your idea of clutch is wrong.
what is this "haters" crap, should we all call everyone haters if they dislike something ? it seems Heat bandwagoners just want to use that saying over and over and over again because they think Miami is the centre of the universe and they don't come back with any good compelling argument, so they just use the old "haters" saying

im sorry but if you disregard 95% of what a player does and categorise them by their worst 5% than you either have a bias against this player or have a lack of knowledge.

im not calling lebron the most cluttch of al time or the best of all time, but simply to say he is a choker is either personal bias or being mislead by bias people.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 01, 2013, 05:35:08 PM
Agreed. Any Heat fan just label people as 'haters' if they disagree.

Find it amazing that Miami fans can't even agree that Manu was fouled at the end of game 6.

i bring up hard evidence and get called a lebron fan boy. others respond with lebrons 8 point game or his mavs series and i cant call them a hater.

please.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 01, 2013, 05:58:06 PM


(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2316127/jrueham_medium.gif)

The great Jrue Holiday

It's so epic, LeBron's fail block and trip at the end just makes it even better.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on November 01, 2013, 07:35:12 PM
Agreed. Any Heat fan just label people as 'haters' if they disagree.

Find it amazing that Miami fans can't even agree that Manu was fouled at the end of game 6.

i bring up hard evidence and get called a lebron fan boy. others respond with lebrons 8 point game or his mavs series and i cant call them a hater.

please.

Here is man too logical and analytical for many to handle!

Keep it up Holz.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 01, 2013, 07:43:04 PM
101 out of GSW's 115 points came from the starting five  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on November 01, 2013, 07:49:13 PM
As deep as Kim Kardashian
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 09:30:42 AM
Watching the Celtics season home opener ;D cant stop smiling :)

Bass & Faverani is interesting. I'd have gone with Sully and Humph.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 02, 2013, 09:44:05 AM
Brooklyn vs Heat is on ESPN; happy days!  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 02, 2013, 09:48:05 AM
I really wanna watch that Heat game but Celtics are playing as well. Bass is on fire!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 09:58:11 AM
Faverani seems to have some real potential. Still very raw and makes dumb mistakes but the talent is certainly there!

Love Sully, first play is an offensive board and finishes the layup over three Bucks!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 02, 2013, 10:01:49 AM
Sully and Kelly hustlin!!! And one for Sully on the offensive rebound!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 10:04:25 AM
I love Jared Sullinger. His game is just so solid. A very strong player!

Although Bass has done well, I think Sully needs to start next game. That and-one was mental ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 11:57:22 AM
Wow, this one is tough to swallow :-[
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 02, 2013, 12:23:34 PM
Riggin for Wiggins, Sixers you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 02, 2013, 12:34:51 PM
At this rate the Heat might be in the running for Wiggins
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 12:42:59 PM
Pierce blocked Lebron :D

Miami threepeat? Pfft. They'll be lucky to win their division :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 02, 2013, 12:55:50 PM
Lol Bosh trying to miss the last free throw  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 02, 2013, 12:55:52 PM
(http://content.boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideroll.gif) Bosh tried to miss a FT and ended up hitting it
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 02, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
Pierce blocked Lebron :D

Miami threepeat? Pfft. They'll be lucky to win their division :P

you guys couldnt even beat Milwaukee  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 01:06:30 PM
Paul Pierce beats Lebron... Again!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 02, 2013, 01:20:34 PM
no he didnt..... Bosh beat Miami by hitting both free throws
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 02, 2013, 07:25:57 PM
Paul Pierce beats Lebron... Again!
i think the stat was Lebron was 3-10 while Pierce guarded him
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 07:29:46 PM
Paul Pierce beats Lebron... Again!
i think the stat was Lebron was 3-10 while Pierce guarded him
(http://media1.sulia.com/static/user_images/95/2013-11-02/69df68ed-bb17-4789-a4c7-38dbad3c7db4.gif)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 02, 2013, 07:30:20 PM
Pierce blocked Lebron :D

Miami threepeat? Pfft. They'll be lucky to win their division :P

you guys couldnt even beat Milwaukee  ::)
Let's see how you go with when your two best players leave, and your next best is injured.

Celtics played like a Western side in the first half but dropped off the pace in the second.

We have major back court problems. Our best can't pass and even with Rondo we are lacking in the the point position. Real problem is the last quarter, no guard to rely on - Bass is no star. Green was productive, Faverani (spelling) was awesome though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 07:36:42 PM
To be fair, Q... Rondo has been our best player for a couple of seasons now. Him missing is huge. That was shown in the last quarter where we tried to slow things up and play halfcourt offense, basically impossible to do with no point guard. Bradley is awful at that position, I think he needs to be switched to SG asap.

Crawford, Bradley, Green, Bass, Faverani

That has to be our lineup next game. Want Bass dropped as soon as he slows down though - not because I dont like him but becuase Sully is our future and needs to get minutes
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 02, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
Let's see how you go with when your two best players leave, and your next best is injured.
^I mentioned Rondo. I totally agree.

Bass was really our best guy on offense though.

At least the teams without a star are organised...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 08:20:09 PM
Let's see how you go with when your two best players leave, and your next best is injured.
^I mentioned Rondo. I totally agree.

Bass was really our best guy on offense though.

At least the teams without a star are organised...
But you implied that Rondo wasn't/isn't as good as those 2 guys who left ;)

Bass was on fire and seems to fit under the Brad Stevens system. But the advance metric stats show that Bass actually plays better coming off the bench. If we don't trade him (we will) then eventually Bass will slow down and get moved to the bench for Sully.

We'll be fine. Hey, if this does turn out to be a horrid season, so be it. We will land a top draft pick (plenty of kids in the draft who aren't too far behind Wiggins) and have plenty of good young talentto build around.

The future of the Celtics is really promising. Even though this season will be extremely tough
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 02, 2013, 08:22:24 PM
Dante Exum! And get Patty while we're at i  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 02, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Dante Exum! And get Patty while we're at i  :P
Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Smart, Randle and Embiid (the one I want us to get - best centre in the draft)

We have a great chance of getting one of those great kids. Anyone of those could be franchise changers :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 03, 2013, 07:08:46 PM
Final Score
Houston 104 Parsons 24pts 12rebs 6asts 1blk, Harden 23pts 4rebs 5asts 3stls 1blk, Lin 20pts 3rebs 4asts, Howard 15pts 9rebs 2blks 1stl, Garcia 12pts
Utah 93 Jefferson 18, Kanter 16pts 8rebs, Burks 15pts, Hayward 15pts, Favors 12pts 6rebs 2blks 2stls

a pretty ugly first half by the Rockets, the Jazz big men were dominating down low and only Chandler Parsons looked dangerous when on the attack, the second half was different as Harden, Lin and Howard worked in to the game to produce a 64-37 second half for the Rockets and get the win and go 3-0 on the season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 03, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
Philly are 3-0 to start.

Beating the Bulls....Maybe they won't be shocking after all.  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 03, 2013, 08:23:31 PM
Philly are 3-0 to start.

Beating the Bulls....Maybe they won't be shocking after all.  :o
Must be the Aussie coach ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2013, 08:51:01 PM
Philly was tricking us all they are going to take out the title when Noel is back.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 03, 2013, 08:59:13 PM
They are still tanking wrong
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 03, 2013, 09:12:02 PM
Philly was tricking us all they are going to take out the title when Noel is back.
Well, with a far better record than the Miami Floppers, you would hope so ;D

Lol at Miami, Lakers have just as good of a record as them and Lakers aren't even a top 10 team in the West ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 03, 2013, 09:22:12 PM
Philly are 3-0 to start.

Beating the Bulls....Maybe they won't be shocking after all.  :o
Must be the Aussie coach ;)
the American coach  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2013, 07:27:10 AM
Philly are 3-0 to start.

Beating the Bulls....Maybe they won't be shocking after all.  :o
Must be the Aussie coach ;)
the American coach  ;)
Yeah. He just coached Aus for a bit.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 04, 2013, 07:55:20 AM
Philly was tricking us all they are going to take out the title when Noel is back.
Well, with a far better record than the Miami Floppers, you would hope so ;D

Lol at Miami, Lakers have just as good of a record as them and Lakers aren't even a top 10 team in the West ::)

You do realise the heat don't care abouth the regular season.

I'm changing my mvp prediction to durrant. LeBron will get 3rd ring and 3rd playoffs mvp
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 04, 2013, 08:17:45 AM
Russell Westbrook is back today
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 04, 2013, 11:25:22 AM
Miami 103 - Washington 93

Lebron James 25 points
Chris Bosh 24 points
Dwayne Wade 20 points
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
No changing predictions, Holz! I'd have changed my ROY to Vitor Faverani by now ;)

Celtics are useless atm. Lol. Why was Jeff Green on the bench during crunch time? He only played like 16mins ::)

Coach Stevens has not impressed me so far. Bradley cant handle the point, so he keeps playing him there ::) Crawford has to start and Wallace needs to be benched.

Hate how Wallace is calling out his team-mates, you're supposed to be a leader yet you keep backstabbing... KG and PP never did that. They take some responsibility not just deflect it to others. Flower you Gerald Wallace ::) grow up!

#rantover
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 04, 2013, 04:50:59 PM
Dont worry jay LeBron will turn it up, he us on track to be the goat after all.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 04, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
No changing predictions, Holz! I'd have changed my ROY to Vitor Faverani by now ;)


MCW says hi
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 04, 2013, 05:56:49 PM
No changing predictions, Holz! I'd have changed my ROY to Vitor Faverani by now ;)

Celtics are useless atm. Lol. Why was Jeff Green on the bench during crunch time? He only played like 16mins ::)

Coach Stevens has not impressed me so far. Bradley cant handle the point, so he keeps playing him there ::) Crawford has to start and Wallace needs to be benched.

Hate how Wallace is calling out his team-mates, you're supposed to be a leader yet you keep backstabbing... KG and PP never did that. They take some responsibility not just deflect it to others. Flower you Gerald Wallace ::) grow up!

#rantover
who else would you have run the point ?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 04, 2013, 06:04:11 PM
who else would you have run the point ?

Andrew Wiggins to play point forward after they tank this season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 04, 2013, 07:27:07 PM
@King - I would have Crawford running the point with Bradley at SG. Green, Sully/Bass and Faverani/Olynyk filling out the frontcourt. Bradley is an awesome defender and excellent cutter on offense but I cannot stand one more game of him running the point... Far out, we need Rondo and fast!

Celtics are clearly tanking. Such a shame tbh :(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 04, 2013, 07:34:21 PM
Philly are 3-0 to start.

Beating the Bulls....Maybe they won't be shocking after all.  :o
Must be the Aussie coach ;)
the American coach  ;)
Yeah. He just coached Aus for a bit.
I knew someone was going to say this :P

I was being like tongue-in-cheek sarcastic guys. Like how we claim everyone that's been involved with Australia.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 04, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
@King - I would have Crawford running the point with Bradley at SG. Green, Sully/Bass and Faverani/Olynyk filling out the frontcourt. Bradley is an awesome defender and excellent cutter on offense but I cannot stand one more game of him running the point... Far out, we need Rondo and fast!

Celtics are clearly tanking. Such a shame tbh :(
Crawford isn't a creator unfortunately and no they are not tanking, they are rebuilding but Celtics fans have to be patient.

i don't mind Stevens as a coach, it seems he will bench a player if he isn't doing what he is asked, Jeff Green wasn't paying attention on defence and paid the price by being benched in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 04, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
Crawford isn't a creator unfortunately and no they are not tanking, they are rebuilding but Celtics fans have to be patient.

i don't mind Stevens as a coach, it seems he will bench a player if he isn't doing what he is asked, Jeff Green wasn't paying attention on defence and paid the price by being benched in the 4th quarter.

Agreed. The only thing Crawford creates is bad shots when he decides to jack up ill advised jump shots. It is one of the reasons he was moved on from Washington.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2013, 12:07:57 AM
I think Crawford is misunderstood. He is a far better creator than Bradley is. Phil Pressey is the best PG we have that's injury free isn't good enough to start at NBA level yet.

Ah cmon, everyone knows the C's are in a bit of a tanking mode. I mean, why play Green at SG? If we were in a win-now mode, I guarantee you that Humphries would have logged in at least 1 minute over the last 2 games...

I like Brad Stevens as a guy but hasn't proven himself to me as a star coach yet. We'll see.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 08:57:56 AM
I think Crawford is misunderstood. He is a far better creator than Bradley is. Phil Pressey is the best PG we have that's injury free isn't good enough to start at NBA level yet.

Ah cmon, everyone knows the C's are in a bit of a tanking mode. I mean, why play Green at SG? If we were in a win-now mode, I guarantee you that Humphries would have logged in at least 1 minute over the last 2 games...

I like Brad Stevens as a guy but hasn't proven himself to me as a star coach yet. We'll see.
Green can play three positions, this "tanking" talk is a copout and just an excuse people use when a team is rebuilding and i'm a bit sick of seeing it used in every sport now, the media really have over used it and the fans overuse it now.

just a question, how many star coaches are there, how can a coach prove it after just 3-4 games ?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 05, 2013, 11:17:39 AM
I think Crawford is misunderstood. He is a far better creator than Bradley is. Phil Pressey is the best PG we have that's injury free isn't good enough to start at NBA level yet.

Ah cmon, everyone knows the C's are in a bit of a tanking mode. I mean, why play Green at SG? If we were in a win-now mode, I guarantee you that Humphries would have logged in at least 1 minute over the last 2 games...

I like Brad Stevens as a guy but hasn't proven himself to me as a star coach yet. We'll see.
Green can play three positions, this "tanking" talk is a copout and just an excuse people use when a team is rebuilding and i'm a bit sick of seeing it used in every sport now, the media really have over used it and the fans overuse it now.

just a question, how many star coaches are there, how can a coach prove it after just 3-4 games ?
But teams are tanking this year to get one of the many stars in the upcoming draft.

Trading away your best 2 of your best 3 players for spuds is tanking. Trading your Center when you don't have a backup days before the start of the season, that's tanking. It's not like deliberately going out to lose games, but it's making sure you have a sh*t team so you lose a lot. In my opinion, it falls under the same catagorie.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 12:47:32 PM
I think Crawford is misunderstood. He is a far better creator than Bradley is. Phil Pressey is the best PG we have that's injury free isn't good enough to start at NBA level yet.

Ah cmon, everyone knows the C's are in a bit of a tanking mode. I mean, why play Green at SG? If we were in a win-now mode, I guarantee you that Humphries would have logged in at least 1 minute over the last 2 games...

I like Brad Stevens as a guy but hasn't proven himself to me as a star coach yet. We'll see.
Green can play three positions, this "tanking" talk is a copout and just an excuse people use when a team is rebuilding and i'm a bit sick of seeing it used in every sport now, the media really have over used it and the fans overuse it now.

just a question, how many star coaches are there, how can a coach prove it after just 3-4 games ?
But teams are tanking this year to get one of the many stars in the upcoming draft.

Trading away your best 2 of your best 3 players for spuds is tanking. Trading your Center when you don't have a backup days before the start of the season, that's tanking. It's not like deliberately going out to lose games, but it's making sure you have a sh*t team so you lose a lot. In my opinion, it falls under the same catagorie.
no it isn't, the Celtics were getting older and Rondo is out injured, they made the good choice of rebuilding the roster, which they needed to do

rebuilding isn't tanking, tanking is just plain giving up
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
1969-70 was the last season that the Celtics started 0-4
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2013, 03:37:53 PM
Really? Don't think we're tanking? Cmon man!

Traded away 3 of our best players, 2 of which got us banner 17 for a bunch of misfits (Wallace, Bogans, Humph) and draft picks.

We only have 1 centre and 1 PG (other than Rondo) on our roster and they are both undrafted rookies. We have like 4-5 SGs and like 4 PFs... Managing your roster like this is tanking!

When you trade 2 of your top 3 players for bad contracts and picks that won't be any higher than in the 20s. That's tanking! Playing Green at SG? That's tanking! Letting Bradley run the point? That's tanking!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 05, 2013, 03:39:29 PM
Boston and Philly both just free'd up cap space.

Now they have plenty of room to sign a star in the next free agency period.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 05, 2013, 03:41:30 PM
When you trade 2 of your top 3 players for bad contracts and picks that won't be any higher than in the 20s. That's tanking!
Exactly. It's not just trading away old players to rebuild, its trading them for spuds so you can get higher draft picks.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 05, 2013, 03:50:57 PM
Meanwhile:

Anthony Bennet the number one draft pick is 0/15 thus far this season. Only has 2 points coming from free throws....

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 03:52:56 PM
Really? Don't think we're tanking? Cmon man!

Traded away 3 of our best players, 2 of which got us banner 17 for a bunch of misfits (Wallace, Bogans, Humph) and draft picks.

We only have 1 centre and 1 PG (other than Rondo) on our roster and they are both undrafted rookies. We have like 4-5 SGs and like 4 PFs... Managing your roster like this is tanking!

When you trade 2 of your top 3 players for bad contracts and picks that won't be any higher than in the 20s. That's tanking! Playing Green at SG? That's tanking! Letting Bradley run the point? That's tanking!

no it isn't, it is called rebuilding, tanking is just plain giving up, Bradley runs the point because they have no one else to do it until Rondo comes back

and the players you traded were old, how long did you want the Celtics to hang on to their aging stars before they started to rebuild ?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 03:55:44 PM
Meanwhile:

Anthony Bennet the number one draft pick is 0/15 thus far this season. Only has 2 points coming from free throws....
he will be fine, off season surgery put him back a bit and coming off the bench doesn't even make him the focal point, Bynum gets most of the ball and he played well today
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
and very good draft picks, considering that the Nets may be a very poor team come 2017, the Celtics will probably get a good pick as they can swap first round picks in 2017.

the Celtics need to play Marshon Brooks more, he has talent and can score

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2013, 05:55:20 PM
I wanted Pierce and KG to retire in Boston. We had enough young talent anyway. Imagine Paul Pierce instead of Gerald Wallace being Jeff Green's mentor... And imagine KG sticking around to help KellyO, Suly and Faverani instead of Humphries and Wallace.

I'll say it again, Crawford or Pressey would be much better starting PG than Bradley. Bradley is a SG. At PG he is a well below average NBA player tbh. Wallace to the bench and move Jeff Green back to his traditional SF. Dunno why we're even playing him at SG ::)

Celtics aren't playing Brooks because we didn't give him an extension. Why play him if he's not gonna be on your roster? I know why, not playing our best lineup. Tanking!

Stevens hasnt convinced me with his lineups yet but lucky he signed a 6 year deal as while Crappy Ainge is head of this franchise, it will be a long road ahead

Boston and Philly both just free'd up cap space.

Now they have plenty of room to sign a star in the next free agency period.
Gerald Wallace - 3 years, 30 million
Kris Humphries - 1 year, 12 million
Keith Bogans - 1 year, 5 million

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid. We definitely did not free up much cap space at all. In fact, we are only just under the luxury tax right now... That is crazy for a team that's rebuilding tanking.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 06:30:23 PM
I wanted Pierce and KG to retire in Boston. We had enough young talent anyway. Imagine Paul Pierce instead of Gerald Wallace being Jeff Green's mentor... And imagine KG sticking around to help KellyO, Suly and Faverani instead of Humphries and Wallace.

I'll say it again, Crawford or Pressey would be much better starting PG than Bradley. Bradley is a SG. At PG he is a well below average NBA player tbh. Wallace to the bench and move Jeff Green back to his traditional SF. Dunno why we're even playing him at SG ::)

Celtics aren't playing Brooks because we didn't give him an extension. Why play him if he's not gonna be on your roster? I know why, not playing our best lineup. Tanking!

Stevens hasnt convinced me with his lineups yet but lucky he signed a 6 year deal as while Crappy Ainge is head of this franchise, it will be a long road ahead

Boston and Philly both just free'd up cap space.

Now they have plenty of room to sign a star in the next free agency period.
Gerald Wallace - 3 years, 30 million
Kris Humphries - 1 year, 12 million
Keith Bogans - 1 year, 5 million


They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid. We definitely did not free up much cap space at all. In fact, we are only just under the luxury tax right now... That is crazy for a team that's rebuilding tanking.
only reason they took on those contracts is because they were expiring i would think and Pierce and Garnett didn't want to be apart of a rebuilding team this late stage in their career, so they moved on to help the Celtics gain more assets, those Nets draft picks will likely be used in trades to gain better assets

a good article on the media creation of the rebuilding/tanking talk
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/7/3/4489712/nba-free-agency-2013-rebuilding-tanking
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 06:32:31 PM

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid.

every NBA player is overpaid
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 05, 2013, 06:46:11 PM

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid.

every NBA player is overpaid

That's debateable. I'm sure LeBron James brings much more money to the nba and the heat than the meager 20 mil he gets a year. He probably brings in 100 mil+ in value a year.

Whether I think it's justified that he gets that cash for playing a sport, well that's another thing.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2013, 06:47:48 PM
Pierce and KG left because Danny Ainge didnt want them there any more. They wanted to stay but it just didnt work.

If you're trying to tell me that the Boston franchise is doing everything they can to win the most games as they can and aren't worried at all about the mega draft class that this one is, you're delusional tbh.


They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid.

every NBA player is overpaid
You know what I mean mate haha :)

Btw, Anthony Bennett was always going to be a bust from the moment he was taken pick 1. I had him about no.10 in my mock draft iirc and deemed him as one of the most likely to flop at NBA level.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 05, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
Boston and Philly both just free'd up cap space.

Now they have plenty of room to sign a star in the next free agency period.
Gerald Wallace - 3 years, 30 million
Kris Humphries - 1 year, 12 million
Keith Bogans - 1 year, 5 million

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid. We definitely did not free up much cap space at all. In fact, we are only just under the luxury tax right now... That is crazy for a team that's rebuilding tanking.
Do you really think we will resign both Bogans and Humphries?  ::) Besides, I don't think Humphries contract is insane. We all know Wallace has the worst contract in the NBA, so hopefully we can trade him or we'll just have to deal with it for another two years.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 07:44:18 PM

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid.

every NBA player is overpaid

That's debateable. I'm sure LeBron James brings much more money to the nba and the heat than the meager 20 mil he gets a year. He probably brings in 100 mil+ in value a year.

Whether I think it's justified that he gets that cash for playing a sport, well that's another thing.
fans would watch the NBA whether LeBron was in it or not, players come and go
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 05, 2013, 07:58:22 PM
We all know Wallace has the worst contract in the NBA,
Hmmmm... Stoudamire?  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
Boston and Philly both just free'd up cap space.

Now they have plenty of room to sign a star in the next free agency period.
Gerald Wallace - 3 years, 30 million
Kris Humphries - 1 year, 12 million
Keith Bogans - 1 year, 5 million

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid. We definitely did not free up much cap space at all. In fact, we are only just under the luxury tax right now... That is crazy for a team that's rebuilding tanking.
Do you really think we will resign both Bogans and Humphries?  ::) Besides, I don't think Humphries contract is insane. We all know Wallace has the worst contract in the NBA, so hopefully we can trade him or we'll just have to deal with it for another two years.
No of course not. But its not like we shed a whole lot of salary through this trade... Wallace's contract is just ridiculously bad. Humphries worth 12 million? No way. We won't trade him, just let his contract expire and take the money off the books :)

Surely a contender with heaps of cash might want Wallace as a veteran leader that can play big minutes at SF. I'll take a packet of chips for him. He's awful.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 05, 2013, 08:22:06 PM
But we do shed a lot of salary, we just have to wait a year.

There is easily enough room in the cap for a star, we just need to find the right one. I don't really think we need to trade Rondo tbh.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2013, 08:31:36 PM
But we do shed a lot of salary, we just have to wait a year.

There is easily enough room in the cap for a star, we just need to find the right one. I don't really think we need to trade Rondo tbh.
I don't think we need to either. But unfortunately, its probably gonna happen :( just needs to play for a bit to get his trade value back up
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
But we do shed a lot of salary, we just have to wait a year.

There is easily enough room in the cap for a star, we just need to find the right one. I don't really think we need to trade Rondo tbh.
I don't think we need to either. But unfortunately, its probably gonna happen :( just needs to play for a bit to get his trade value back up
would only happen if something great came in return
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 05, 2013, 09:18:32 PM

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid.

every NBA player is overpaid

That's debateable. I'm sure LeBron James brings much more money to the nba and the heat than the meager 20 mil he gets a year. He probably brings in 100 mil+ in value a year.

Whether I think it's justified that he gets that cash for playing a sport, well that's another thing.
fans would watch the NBA whether LeBron was in it or not, players come and go

The core still would but no doubt they pick up the casual fans with a drawcard. Like ablett at gc.

If LeBron wasn't there my interest in basketball would be a lot less, he adds a lot of controversy, discussion and is just an epic player.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 09:57:37 PM

They are all spuds and all waayyy overpaid.

every NBA player is overpaid

That's debateable. I'm sure LeBron James brings much more money to the nba and the heat than the meager 20 mil he gets a year. He probably brings in 100 mil+ in value a year.

Whether I think it's justified that he gets that cash for playing a sport, well that's another thing.
fans would watch the NBA whether LeBron was in it or not, players come and go

The core still would but no doubt they pick up the casual fans with a drawcard. Like ablett at gc.

If LeBron wasn't there my interest in basketball would be a lot less, he adds a lot of controversy, discussion and is just an epic player.
i think what hurts the NBA is the luxury tax, if it wasn't there and they had a hard cap, the league would prosper because of the talent spread around more teams.

someone else would be there that the media write about, like Jordan, then Shaq when he left and joined the Lakers, then Kobe, now LeBron, in 5-10 years there will be another guy to come along that the media will be obsessed with, maybe it will be Wiggins
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on November 05, 2013, 10:00:29 PM
As a casual observer (read fantasy addict) I find these debates and comments interesting.

Is the NBA in trouble?

Reminds me of the 'soccer should be fixed by bigger goals or no off side or that same cross court rule as in basketball' conversations people have. Soccer is the world's biggest sport.

The NBA seems to be going pretty well despite our  (read your) concerns.

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2013, 10:47:11 PM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

Luxury tax is pure bs. That has to go... Brooklyn for example have are owned by some European zillionaire hence they can afford the loaded roster they have! A team like Cleveland or Milwaukle don't have that $$$ to be able to afford to go into the luxury tax.

The hype on Lebron is too much. As Kingy said, the media just latch onto someone. It's been transferred from KB to LBJ... Wiggins or Jabari Parker next? :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 05, 2013, 10:56:50 PM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

Luxury tax is pure bs. That has to go... Brooklyn for example have are owned by some European zillionaire hence they can afford the loaded roster they have! A team like Cleveland or Milwaukle don't have that $$$ to be able to afford to go into the luxury tax.

The hype on Lebron is too much. As Kingy said, the media just latch onto someone. It's been transferred from KB to LBJ... Wiggins or Jabari Parker next? :o
only taking the luxury tax out and having a hard cap would solve that
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 06, 2013, 09:28:17 AM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

im sure Boston has always had more than 1 superstar at any given time regardless of era
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2013, 09:42:51 AM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

im sure Boston has always had more than 1 superstar at any given time regardless of era

There have always been super teams the only difference is how they are created. It used to be drafts and trades. Now it is free agency.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 06, 2013, 12:16:33 PM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

im sure Boston has always had more than 1 superstar at any given time regardless of era
Boston were pretty poor for awhile after Bird retired, but Reggie Lewis passing away was something that set them back years
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 06, 2013, 03:14:47 PM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

im sure Boston has always had more than 1 superstar at any given time regardless of era
Your point?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2013, 03:25:27 PM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

im sure Boston has always had more than 1 superstar at any given time regardless of era
Your point?

Your comment of you missing the days with one superstar. I think you miss the days when Celtics had more than one and everyone but the Lakers had one star ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 06, 2013, 04:18:25 PM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

im sure Boston has always had more than 1 superstar at any given time regardless of era
Your point?

Your comment of you missing the days with one superstar. I think you miss the days when Celtics had more than one and everyone but the Lakers had one star ;)
I probably haven't worded that correctly. What I meant is that I'm just not a huge fan of mega-teams. Would prefer to see Lebron go up against D-Wade not work together with him...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
The NBA is fine how it is. If only there were no 'mega teams' though. The days when every team had the 1 superstar, I'd love to see that again. Much more even comp :)

im sure Boston has always had more than 1 superstar at any given time regardless of era
Your point?

That would be boring LeBron would just dunk on the old man, his knees would fall apart trying to keep up.
Your comment of you missing the days with one superstar. I think you miss the days when Celtics had more than one and everyone but the Lakers had one star ;)
I probably haven't worded that correctly. What I meant is that I'm just not a huge fan of mega-teams. Would prefer to see Lebron go up against D-Wade not work together with him...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 06, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
I don't think the NBA is in trouble.

Regarding super teams it's not just stars, you need to consider role players and their bench. Ray Allen probably would of started at a few teams last season, yet he was what, 7th man at Miami?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 06, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
I don't think the NBA is in trouble.

Regarding super teams it's not just stars, you need to consider role players and their bench. Ray Allen probably would of started at a few teams last season, yet he was what, 7th man at Miami?
but that was his choice and he went championship chasing
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 06, 2013, 05:56:00 PM
I don't think the NBA is in trouble.

Regarding super teams it's not just stars, you need to consider role players and their bench. Ray Allen probably would of started at a few teams last season, yet he was what, 7th man at Miami?
but that was his choice and he went championship chasing
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That's besides the point king  :P They had plenty others too...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 06, 2013, 06:05:50 PM
I don't think the NBA is in trouble.

Regarding super teams it's not just stars, you need to consider role players and their bench. Ray Allen probably would of started at a few teams last season, yet he was what, 7th man at Miami?
but that was his choice and he went championship chasing
Agree with Q that the NBA is not even close to being in trouble. I think the lottery could be jigged around to avoid tanking a bit more but imo there is always gonna be tanking no matter how you do it.

Ray Allen should not have even been brought into this conversation. Not all NBA players are as dog and share the same traitor qualities that he does :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 06, 2013, 06:34:36 PM
the only guy on the Heat roster that i hope does well is Greg Oden
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 06, 2013, 06:49:57 PM
the only guy on the Heat roster that i hope does well is Greg Oden
Nah flower him. Could have chosen to sign with San Antonio but instead joins the mega team ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2013, 07:20:51 PM
the only guy on the Heat roster that i hope does well is Greg Oden
Nah flower him. Could have chosen to sign with San Antonio but instead joins the mega team ::)

I thought he was playing for the heat not the nets?

Pp and kg did the exact same thing just as much if not more a mega team than the heat.

The difference is the heat have LeBron.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 06, 2013, 07:25:43 PM
the only guy on the Heat roster that i hope does well is Greg Oden
Nah flower him. Could have chosen to sign with San Antonio but instead joins the mega team ::)

I thought he was playing for the heat not the nets?

Pp and kg did the exact same thing just as much if not more a mega team than the heat.

The difference is the heat have LeBron.
Nets aren't that great. Won't finish top 3 in their conference.

And that's besides the point. KG and PP got traded...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 06, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
the only guy on the Heat roster that i hope does well is Greg Oden
Nah flower him. Could have chosen to sign with San Antonio but instead joins the mega team ::)

I thought he was playing for the heat not the nets?

Pp and kg did the exact same thing just as much if not more a mega team than the heat.

The difference is the heat have LeBron.
bit different, Garnett and Pierce didn't leave in the prime of their career, yes they were traded but the Celtics would have gone to them and asked if they wanted to help go through a rebuilding phase in this time of their career. Kevin Garnett i reckon, was going to retire if the Celtics went the way they have with him on the team and Pierce is the same as Garnett, in that he wouldn't want to be on a rebuilding team and the Celtics would love that he has another shot at a title.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 07, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
How about those Celtics today :) those 2nd and 3rd quarters were jizz worthy. And who woulda thought that when Crawford/Pressey run the point we win! OH WAIT I DID.

Cant believe Crawf hasnt started earlier with Pressey getting solid minutes but Im glad its finally happened. Wallace to the bench, yay! I didnt even realise he was this bad...

#CoachJayman
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 07, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Kanter still destroying it  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 07, 2013, 04:53:39 PM
Jay says start J-Crawf and give Pressey minutes... Coach Stevens finally does this and we get our first win. What a surprise ::)

Wallace complaining about coming of the bench now! The guy needs to shut the flower up and get his ass of this team. He aint a Celtic.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 07, 2013, 04:55:46 PM
Jay says start J-Crawf and give Pressey minutes... Coach Stevens finally does this and we get our first win. What a surprise ::)

Wallace complaining about coming of the bench now! The guy needs to shut the flower up and get his ass of this team. He aint a Celtic.

Considering the plan is get Wiggins your failing as coach.

Play guys out of position and pick up an all star.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 07, 2013, 05:14:38 PM
Jay says start J-Crawf and give Pressey minutes... Coach Stevens finally does this and we get our first win. What a surprise ::)

Wallace complaining about coming of the bench now! The guy needs to shut the flower up and get his ass of this team. He aint a Celtic.
Stevens is probably checking FanFooty just to take on your advice! :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 07, 2013, 05:25:45 PM
How about those Celtics today :) those 2nd and 3rd quarters were jizz worthy. And who woulda thought that when Crawford/Pressey run the point we win! OH WAIT I DID.

Cant believe Crawf hasnt started earlier with Pressey getting solid minutes but Im glad its finally happened. Wallace to the bench, yay! I didnt even realise he was this bad...

#CoachJayman
i watched it, Wallace was good today, aggressive on the boards. Once again Olynyk and Sullinger did the dirty work, Pressey was good when he was on the court, green had a great first half
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 07, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
Everyone is acting like Wiggins is the only player in this draft class... Parker, Smart, Randle, Exum. I think the top 5 is as stacked as its ever been. I'll be stoked if we can get any of them. Even drafting someone like Embiid wouldnt be bad, best centre in the draft! My personal fave is Julius Randle though :D

How about those Celtics today :) those 2nd and 3rd quarters were jizz worthy. And who woulda thought that when Crawford/Pressey run the point we win! OH WAIT I DID.

Cant believe Crawf hasnt started earlier with Pressey getting solid minutes but Im glad its finally happened. Wallace to the bench, yay! I didnt even realise he was this bad...

#CoachJayman
i watched it, Wallace was good today, aggressive on the boards. Once again Olynyk and Sullinger did the dirty work, Pressey was good when he was on the court, green had a great first half
Exactly, Wallace is just as good (or bad) off the bench! Dont want to see him starting again - decent energy guy off the bench but his body is flowered and isnt capable of being a solid starter anymore.

Sully and Olynyk are the future! So happy with their play so far, just need Bass to stop playing well so Sully can steal his minutes :P certainly stoked with our last two first draft picks!

Pressey gives us some real flair and is the only true PG we got. Helps run the ball and get the tempo up which is a must. Utah had that big run early and established a solid, then Phil Pressey checked into the game 8)

Green was aggresive and scored really well... Not happy with his disappearing acts in the 4th though. Lets see if he can get some of that killer instinct his predecessor, PP had! God, I miss that man :(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 08, 2013, 02:57:11 AM
Everyone is acting like Wiggins is the only player in this draft class... Parker, Smart, Randle, Exum. I think the top 5 is as stacked as its ever been. I'll be stoked if we can get any of them. Even drafting someone like Embiid wouldnt be bad, best centre in the draft! My personal fave is Julius Randle though :D

How about those Celtics today :) those 2nd and 3rd quarters were jizz worthy. And who woulda thought that when Crawford/Pressey run the point we win! OH WAIT I DID.

Cant believe Crawf hasnt started earlier with Pressey getting solid minutes but Im glad its finally happened. Wallace to the bench, yay! I didnt even realise he was this bad...

#CoachJayman
i watched it, Wallace was good today, aggressive on the boards. Once again Olynyk and Sullinger did the dirty work, Pressey was good when he was on the court, green had a great first half
Exactly, Wallace is just as good (or bad) off the bench! Dont want to see him starting again - decent energy guy off the bench but his body is flowered and isnt capable of being a solid starter anymore.

Sully and Olynyk are the future! So happy with their play so far, just need Bass to stop playing well so Sully can steal his minutes :P certainly stoked with our last two first draft picks!

Pressey gives us some real flair and is the only true PG we got. Helps run the ball and get the tempo up which is a must. Utah had that big run early and established a solid, then Phil Pressey checked into the game 8)

Green was aggresive and scored really well... Not happy with his disappearing acts in the 4th though. Lets see if he can get some of that killer instinct his predecessor, PP had! God, I miss that man :(
some times bench players excell against bench players and can't go as well against starters, they don't attack as well, i think it is a mindset thing, they know they have to make their minutes count.

don't worry about Greens 4th quarter....they won, that's all that matters
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 08, 2013, 07:04:39 AM
I'm definitely worried about Green's 4th quarters... We're just lucky we had Bass who scored 9 in the 4th.

Jeff has played week in every single 4th quarter this season! His biggest weakness is his mental side of him - not being aggressive enough. So it worries me when he fades out late in games. He needs to be our closer. Hit 2 game-winners last year that made me think "this guy will be our future go to guy" but, that was with PP and KG there... Those 2 make a big difference.

This may be very harsh, but even go back to his 43pt game vs Miami. For three quarters he looked like a top 10 player in the world but he faded in the 4th again when the team needed him.

Cmon Jeff!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 08, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
Lakers up by 10 against the Rockets. Really wished Kobe was back, so he can dunk  all over Dwight.  :P

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 08, 2013, 03:29:27 PM
Steve Blake for 3 :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2013, 03:33:11 PM
Lakers up by 10 against the Rockets. Really wished Kobe was back, so he can dunk  all over Dwight.  :P

You mean Dwight can block Kobe.

Dwight is the better player now.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 08, 2013, 03:35:07 PM
Lakers up by 10 against the Rockets. Really wished Kobe was back, so he can dunk  all over Dwight.  :P

You mean Dwight can block Kobe.

Dwight is the better player now.
blasphemy.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2013, 03:38:43 PM
Griffin is going so good he is starting to hit 3s. Will be a clear top 20 player.


Dwight is top 2 defensive players in the league.

Kobe isn't even top 10 offensive.

Massively overrated player sure he is good probably top 20 of all time. But Duncan and LeBron are easily better out of active players.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 08, 2013, 03:39:40 PM
5 beats 2...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 08, 2013, 04:18:34 PM
5 beats 2...
Quality over quantity

I reckon Kobe is the most overrated player from the past decade. I would say of all-time but I can't be bothered thinking about any contenders  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 08, 2013, 04:39:26 PM
LeBron's 2 rings have been bullshower so far though. Kobe earned them with very little controversy (although he was lucky to get it in 2010 when Perkins injured his knee in game 6 of the finals)

Miami cheated their way past Boston in 2012. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmGTDBR2ye4
And Miami cheated their way past the Spurs in 2013. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us9uVuW2yQc

Lebron should have 0 rings right now...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2013, 04:43:28 PM
LeBron's 2 rings have been bullshower so far though. Kobe earned them with very little controversy (although he was lucky to get it in 2010 when Perkins injured his knee in game 6 of the finals)

Miami cheated their way past Boston in 2012. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmGTDBR2ye4
And Miami cheated their way past the Spurs in 2013. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us9uVuW2yQc

Lebron should have 0 rings right now...

I hope your joking. The Lakers championships were very very suss with horrible calls there way the whole series. So he learnt his through massive controversy not just one play from ginobli.

Also LeBron wasn't carried by a top 10 player in his prime. Give LeBron shaq abd he gas mire rings than Kobe already.

Give credit when credit is due.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 08, 2013, 04:47:24 PM
There was that one series against the Kings that was very dodgy... But Kobe has still earnt more champs than Lebron has. We'll see if that changes.

LeBron has definitely got very lucky on his way to being a two-time champion. If both those calls I posted dont go his way, we could still be paying him out about having no rings...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 08, 2013, 04:53:11 PM
There was that one series against the Kings that was very dodgy... But Kobe has still earnt more champs than Lebron has. We'll see if that changes.

LeBron has definitely got very lucky on his way to being a two-time champion. If both those calls I posted dont go his way, we could still be paying him out about having no rings...

He gets a few that goes his way and they win easy. Don't get the point.

If he had a fit wade than they would have won in 4-5
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 08, 2013, 05:01:50 PM
our poor starts come back again and cost us
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 08, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
our poor starts come back again and cost us
Steve Blake gave Dwight a big flower you with 1.3 seconds left to go today :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 09, 2013, 01:35:16 AM
our poor starts come back again and cost us
Steve Blake gave Dwight a big flower you with 1.3 seconds left to go today :P
we didn't deserve to win, our first quarter was woeful and the Lakers played the better team ball most of the game, they were hitting threes like crazy...oh well, on to the next game :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 09, 2013, 08:55:31 AM
Lol, Patrick Ewing is coaching against the Knicks today :o

Did you know, according to points per possession stats, the Celtics defense is 4th best in the league?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on November 09, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
Young Blood back on the LBJ hate train ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on November 09, 2013, 11:30:01 AM
Oh shower >:(  Warriors finally live on ESPN, no Steve Curry >:(

Anyway! Go Andrew B, get em up! ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 09, 2013, 12:29:04 PM
Boston win their second in a row
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 09, 2013, 12:37:42 PM
Pacers 6-0, first time since 1970-71 they were that
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 09, 2013, 03:26:02 PM
Pacers 6-0, first time since 1970-71 they were that
Jay must be feeling pretty good about his predictions right now! ;)

Paul George is in some ridiculous form.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 09, 2013, 03:35:57 PM
It's just natural progression for George.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 09, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
CELTICS 2 IN A ROW ;D We arent that bad guys... Brandon Bass had a big game against his old side and boy oh boy how great was it when Jordan Crawford grabbed that loose ball? I'm slowly becoming a real J-Craw fan :D


Pacers 6-0, first time since 1970-71 they were that
Jay must be feeling pretty good about his predictions right now! ;)

Paul George is in some ridiculous form.
Yes, very happy with how the Pacers are travelling. :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 09, 2013, 06:01:06 PM
Meanwhile the Spurs chalk up another good win. It's kind of boring supporting such a consistent team :P

Not that I'm complaining.

Also, how good is Anthony Davis' form? 23 PPG and 11 Rebs  :o

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2013, 06:20:10 PM
Meanwhile the Spurs chalk up another good win. It's kind of boring supporting such a consistent team :P

Not that I'm complaining.

Also, how good is Anthony Davis' form? 23 PPG and 11 Rebs  :o

Not sure anyone is suprised about either.

Spurs always find a way to just stay up the top. Good team to support, basically the Sydney of the nba. Who you also support.

It's a shame davis got injured I'm convinced he would have been even better than lillard.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 09, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
Meanwhile the Spurs chalk up another good win. It's kind of boring supporting such a consistent team :P

Not that I'm complaining.

Also, how good is Anthony Davis' form? 23 PPG and 11 Rebs  :o

Not sure anyone is suprised about either.

Spurs always find a way to just stay up the top. Good team to support, basically the Sydney of the nba. Who you also support.

It's a shame davis got injured I'm convinced he would have been even better than lillard.
I don't think he'll care about his rookie season in 10 years when he's GOAT.

It's pretty crazy that I support Sydney and the Spurs; people in Aus always make the comparison. However, Sydney are becoming a bit more unpredictable with the signings of K Tip and Franklin
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 09, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xawb6v3OjtE

You're all welcome.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 10, 2013, 10:59:48 AM
I don't like the move by BS to start Olynyk over Vitor... Not playing a centre against Miami is a recipe for diaster. You can't beatvthem going small ball!

Look at the teams that troubled Miami last year, Pacers and Spurs. Pacers had one of the best rim protector's in the league in Roy Hibbert while the Spurs had basically two 7-footers in the lineup... Bass an Olynyk will not cut it. Vitor is the closest thing we have to be a big centre... Gotta start him!

But anyway, J-Craw has scored 8 in the first quarter :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on November 10, 2013, 12:53:38 PM
J?  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 10, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
Jeff Green with the winner  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on November 10, 2013, 01:56:43 PM
Jeff Green with the winner  ;D
that was insane
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 10, 2013, 02:15:52 PM
I don't like the move by BS to start Olynyk over Vitor... Not playing a centre against Miami is a recipe for diaster. You can't beatvthem going small ball!

Look at the teams that troubled Miami last year, Pacers and Spurs. Pacers had one of the best rim protector's in the league in Roy Hibbert while the Spurs had basically two 7-footers in the lineup... Bass an Olynyk will not cut it. Vitor is the closest thing we have to be a big centre... Gotta start him!

But anyway, J-Craw has scored 8 in the first quarter :)
it worked  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 10, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
Only had a chance to post this now.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 10, 2013, 04:50:39 PM
Only had a chance to post this now.
JEFF GREEEEEENNNN BABY!!! 3 in a row!

(http://i.imgur.com/Gq3F2.gif)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 10, 2013, 05:37:00 PM
Was at cricket all day. Checked the scores and watched the shot during the tea break. Ended up just running around like a lunatic screaming at all my mates :D Wow that was amazing! Excellent play designed by Brad Stevens', caught LeBron off guard and man, that pass by Gerald Wallace was perfect.

The look on LeBrick's face says it all.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/1460153_645855248770505_1636549052_n.jpg)

I admit, I may have jizzed just a little :P Wow could not have scripted that any better!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 10, 2013, 09:00:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvYncXAiR04
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: EZA100 on November 11, 2013, 06:13:56 AM
That shot was amazing, great to see the celtics get a win over Miami and get a 3 win streak. What about the knicks though  :P ,got demolished
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 11, 2013, 08:32:50 AM

The look on LeBrick's face says it all.


I think you need to find a better nickname. Considering his high fg% and high game winner % it only works if your making a joke like calling shaq tiny.

I suggest LeChamp, LeClutch etc..
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 11, 2013, 09:22:51 AM
LeFlog.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 11, 2013, 03:35:27 PM
Jeff Green is 7-11 in his career (63.6%) on game-tying/go-ahead FG in final 5 sec, highest FG pct by any player since 2007-08 (min. 10 FGA).
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 12, 2013, 05:47:12 PM
Anyone else remember the guy that said when Jordan Crawford starts at PG he will do wonders for the Celtics? ;)

Well we are currently 4-0 with him starting! Crawford finished tonight's game with 16 points, 4 rebounds, and 10 assists. Not bad for a guy who's been labeled a high-volume, and inefficient, scorer over the course of his young career... Not to mention that Bradley is flourishing not having ball-handling duties... AB dropped 24 today :D

Win streak = 4. Lets make that 5 with a win against the Cats!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 12, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
Anyone else remember the guy that said when Jordan Crawford starts at PG he will do wonders for the Celtics? ;)

Well we are currently 4-0 with him starting! Crawford finished tonight's game with 16 points, 4 rebounds, and 10 assists. Not bad for a guy who's been labeled a high-volume, and inefficient, scorer over the course of his young career... Not to mention that Bradley is flourishing not having ball-handling duties... AB dropped 24 today :D

Win streak = 4. Lets make that 5 with a win against the Cats!

This from the guy who always has a go at LeBron for being up himself ;)

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 12, 2013, 05:55:16 PM
Stephenson with a triple double as Pacers remain undefeated :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 12, 2013, 05:57:13 PM
Stephenson with a triple double as Pacers remain undefeated :o
Love the way he pushes it up the court. Got a bit of help from an amazing Pacers team. Liking Jay's prediction of Pacers for the championship, looking much better than the Heat at this stage.

Hell, Celtics could push for a championship at this rate  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 12, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
Stephenson with a triple double as Pacers remain undefeated :o
Not getting too carried away just yet but I called Pacers championship as soon as the 2013 finals finished... ;)

Lets see how it pans out! But man, they are looking strong :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 12, 2013, 06:53:38 PM
This gif will be my display for all of eternity.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rOBlFOBq-9Q/Un8B5auU3PI/AAAAAAAAAP8/7RTMgXoeeCY/s1600/jgreen11.gif)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 12, 2013, 07:47:06 PM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 12, 2013, 07:53:53 PM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
they have had a lot of luck in the past 2 seasons, it might run out
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 12, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
they have had a lot of luck in the past 2 seasons, it might run out
Luckiest 2 titles of all-time. They rode the refs all the way!
>wade fouls rondo game 2 2012 ECF
>ray fouls manu game 6 2013 finals
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 12, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
they have had a lot of luck in the past 2 seasons, it might run out
Luckiest 2 titles of all-time. They rode the refs all the way!
>wade fouls rondo game 2 2012 ECF
>ray fouls manu game 6 2013 finals

Fair call, every other team never got any calls that went there way, the refs always get every call correct.

Perhaps we go through the tapes and take rings off any tram that ever had a call go their way.

Clear sore loser mentality, heat have been the best team the last 2 years and LeBron the best player the last 7-8 seasons. Give credit when credit is due.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 12, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
they have had a lot of luck in the past 2 seasons, it might run out
Luckiest 2 titles of all-time. They rode the refs all the way!
>wade fouls rondo game 2 2012 ECF
>ray fouls manu game 6 2013 finals
not to mention the non-foul that wasn't called when Durant went up for a shot in game 2 of the Finals in 2012, he would have had a chance to tie the game with not much time left.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 12, 2013, 08:21:08 PM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
they have had a lot of luck in the past 2 seasons, it might run out
Luckiest 2 titles of all-time. They rode the refs all the way!
>wade fouls rondo game 2 2012 ECF
>ray fouls manu game 6 2013 finals

Fair call, every other team never got any calls that went there way, the refs always get every call correct.

Perhaps we go through the tapes and take rings off any tram that ever had a call go their way.

Clear sore loser mentality, heat have been the best team the last 2 years and LeBron the best player the last 7-8 seasons. Give credit when credit is due.
like Heat fans and Lebron gave Dallas when they won the title ? LeBron stormed off the court and didn't congrats to anyone and Heat fans/bandwagoners went missing for 6 months
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 12, 2013, 08:36:34 PM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
they have had a lot of luck in the past 2 seasons, it might run out
Luckiest 2 titles of all-time. They rode the refs all the way!
>wade fouls rondo game 2 2012 ECF
>ray fouls manu game 6 2013 finals

Fair call, every other team never got any calls that went there way, the refs always get every call correct.

Perhaps we go through the tapes and take rings off any tram that ever had a call go their way.

Clear sore loser mentality, heat have been the best team the last 2 years and LeBron the best player the last 7-8 seasons. Give credit when credit is due.
like Heat fans and Lebron gave Dallas when they won the title ? LeBron stormed off the court and didn't congrats to anyone and Heat fans/bandwagoners went missing for 6 months

Dallas didn't win that the heat blantatlt lost it.

I give much more credit to the spurs in their loss than Dallas in their win. Spurs were amazing. They pushed a on heat and almost beat them.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 12, 2013, 10:56:43 PM
Dallas didn't win the title, Heat lost it? Well if thats your argument, I could easily say the same about the 2013 Finals... Miami didnt win the title, Spurs lost it.

How is Timmy missing that layup in game 7 or Pop subbing him out during the closing seconds any different to the Miami capiluation? It's not! Spurs were the better team...

KK brings up another good point. LBJ absolutely hacked Kevin Durant late in game 2 and no-call? I don't often use this in my arguments though as I think the Heat would've still beaten OKC... My point is that they shouldn't have even been in those finals in the first place! Boston were the better team in the 2012 series but got cheated out!

There is a common theme... Heat get the most important decisions to go their way. Coincidence that the NBA would male so much more money from a Heat title than a Spurs one for example... Also, the amount of $$$ the NBA wouldn't raked in for last years finals going to a game 7 - easy to see why Manu's foul wasn't called!

I'll be fair, Miami executed better down the stretch in game 7 that the Spurs did and deserved to win that game. But it should've already been all over a couple of days before!

Don't make it seem like Lebron has 2 rings without huge calls wrongfully going his way... Heck, he doesn't even deserve one!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 13, 2013, 08:19:06 AM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 13, 2013, 10:41:45 AM
Heat still got this, they will start playing properly in June.
they have had a lot of luck in the past 2 seasons, it might run out
Luckiest 2 titles of all-time. They rode the refs all the way!
>wade fouls rondo game 2 2012 ECF
>ray fouls manu game 6 2013 finals

Fair call, every other team never got any calls that went there way, the refs always get every call correct.

Perhaps we go through the tapes and take rings off any tram that ever had a call go their way.

Clear sore loser mentality, heat have been the best team the last 2 years and LeBron the best player the last 7-8 seasons. Give credit when credit is due.
like Heat fans and Lebron gave Dallas when they won the title ? LeBron stormed off the court and didn't congrats to anyone and Heat fans/bandwagoners went missing for 6 months

Dallas didn't win that the heat blantatlt lost it.

I give much more credit to the spurs in their loss than Dallas in their win. Spurs were amazing. They pushed a on heat and almost beat them.
Dallas won because they were the better team
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 13, 2013, 10:43:25 AM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
The fact is, you only deserve a ring if you win one
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 13, 2013, 11:30:59 AM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
The fact is, you only deserve a ring if you win one

Disagree Barkley Malone Baylor etc.. deserved rings there tram didn't but they did.

Is scalabrine more deserving than Baylor?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 13, 2013, 12:37:12 PM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
The fact is, you only deserve a ring if you win one

Disagree Barkley Malone Baylor etc.. deserved rings there tram didn't but they did.

Is scalabrine more deserving than Baylor?
you only deserve a ring if you actually win one, it isn't how great a player is, that doesn't just mean "you deserve to win one" Barkley and Malone had their chances to win a ring but they were not good enough to win one.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 13, 2013, 12:39:32 PM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
The fact is, you only deserve a ring if you win one

Disagree Barkley Malone Baylor etc.. deserved rings there tram didn't but they did.

Is scalabrine more deserving than Baylor?
you only deserve a ring if you actually win one, it isn't how great a player is, that doesn't just mean "you deserve to win one" Barkley and Malone had their chances to win a ring but they were not good enough to win one.

There support wasn't good enough to win one.

The heat were.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 13, 2013, 12:49:05 PM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
The fact is, you only deserve a ring if you win one

Disagree Barkley Malone Baylor etc.. deserved rings there tram didn't but they did.

Is scalabrine more deserving than Baylor?
you only deserve a ring if you actually win one, it isn't how great a player is, that doesn't just mean "you deserve to win one" Barkley and Malone had their chances to win a ring but they were not good enough to win one.

There support wasn't good enough to win one.

The heat were.
the Heat also are in the luxury tax era, back then there was no such thing, if there was no luxury tax now, the Heat wouldn't be able to put the team that now have together.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 13, 2013, 01:03:45 PM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
The fact is, you only deserve a ring if you win one

Disagree Barkley Malone Baylor etc.. deserved rings there tram didn't but they did.

Is scalabrine more deserving than Baylor?
you only deserve a ring if you actually win one, it isn't how great a player is, that doesn't just mean "you deserve to win one" Barkley and Malone had their chances to win a ring but they were not good enough to win one.

There support wasn't good enough to win one.

The heat were.
the Heat also are in the luxury tax era, back then there was no such thing, if there was no luxury tax now, the Heat wouldn't be able to put the team that now have together.

Most of the playoff teams are too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 13, 2013, 04:12:33 PM
You can make the same conspiracy theories about almost every title, namely the Lakers under Kobe.

To say the guy who has been the best player for soo long doesn't deserve a ring is laughable. He joined the big 3 so that if he played like the best player in the world he would win. If wade stayed healthy for example or if they picked someone over bosh the could easily be going for 4 in a row and probably eouldnt have had a 7 game series.

If you use the claim of a few bad calls meaning they don't deserve a ring rmthan I'm sure I can  find bad calls against the cavs to put a strong case that he deserves more. The reason I don't is the truth is the team wasn't good enough for a ring. Refs  are an external factor you can't control so I disregard it, when the refs are bad in games I play I'm angry at the refs but I never take away from my oponent.
The fact is, you only deserve a ring if you win one

Disagree Barkley Malone Baylor etc.. deserved rings there tram didn't but they did.

Is scalabrine more deserving than Baylor?
you only deserve a ring if you actually win one, it isn't how great a player is, that doesn't just mean "you deserve to win one" Barkley and Malone had their chances to win a ring but they were not good enough to win one.

There support wasn't good enough to win one.

The heat were.
the Heat also are in the luxury tax era, back then there was no such thing, if there was no luxury tax now, the Heat wouldn't be able to put the team that now have together.

Most of the playoff teams are too.
only New York and Brooklyn pay more money than Miami, i think it is 6 teams who had to pay the tax last season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 13, 2013, 04:14:21 PM
Lakers go 4-5 with the win against the Pelicans.  :)

Excellent effort right across the board, glad to actually have a deep bench for once..  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 13, 2013, 05:50:16 PM
Xavier Henry's dunk. 2nd best of the season! :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 14, 2013, 09:14:39 AM
James Harden is out of today's game for the Rockets and Jared Sullinger is out for the Celtics as well
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 14, 2013, 03:24:27 PM
Even with Howard, Lin and Jones all putting up double-doubles for Houston in regulation, Philly wins in Overtime!  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 14, 2013, 03:41:19 PM
James Harden is out of today's game for the Rockets and Jared Sullinger is out for the Celtics as well
Hence we lost...

Jordan Crawford haters seem quiet lately ;) Green Machine with a solid 19 pointd even though he had a busted finger.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 14, 2013, 07:35:26 PM
James Harden is out of today's game for the Rockets and Jared Sullinger is out for the Celtics as well
Hence we lost...

Jordan Crawford haters seem quiet lately ;) Green Machine with a solid 19 pointd even though he had a busted finger.
they are not haters, such a strong word, whoever said they hated him ?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 14, 2013, 07:36:29 PM
Even with Howard, Lin and Jones all putting up double-doubles for Houston in regulation, Philly wins in Overtime!  :o
James Anderson went nuts
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: j959 on November 15, 2013, 12:27:19 PM
why are Golden State heavily favoured over Oklahoma today??

saw betting markets of around $2.55 for the Thunder, though note they are away ... is Durant out?

I saw Ibaka got ejected against the Clips the other day so guessing he's not suiting up this game??
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 15, 2013, 05:56:30 PM
IGGY HAS THE CLUTCH GENE!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 15, 2013, 07:36:41 PM
Lost some respect for His Airness today... MJ named his ultimate pick-up game starting 5. This included James Worthy over Larry Bird! Such blasphemy!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tbagrocks on November 15, 2013, 08:11:35 PM
What was the 5 J?

Duncan
Barkley
James
Jordan
Stockton

Says tbag
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 15, 2013, 08:16:36 PM
Olajuwon
Magic
Pippen
Worthy
MJ
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 15, 2013, 08:28:59 PM
JBs just stated MJ's 5. Pretty poor imo.

Magic
MJ
Bird
Garnett
Shaq

Thats what I'd go. Duncan vs. Garnett was tough but decided to go with defense and a bit more floor spacing. The centre spot is crazy stacked - considered Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt and Russel but Shaq gets the edge as there arent many FTs in a pickup game ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 15, 2013, 09:45:36 PM
Magic
MJ
LBJ
Duncan
Olujawon
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 15, 2013, 09:56:56 PM
LBJ > Bird? ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 15, 2013, 10:02:03 PM
LBJ > Bird? ::)
Oh, that wasn't much. I was expecting a better reaction Jayman! :P

I was just baiting you mate. Bird > LBJ... for now.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 15, 2013, 10:05:47 PM
Haha, I thought it was unlike you to blaspheme :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 16, 2013, 09:14:09 AM
Lost some respect for His Airness today... MJ named his ultimate pick-up game starting 5. This included James Worthy over Larry Bird! Such blasphemy!
it is just his top 5, not 'the" top 5
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 16, 2013, 09:19:18 AM
Sully is back to face Portland! We haven't lost this season with Crawf at PG and Sully getting minutes so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us beat the Blazers today.

Them comes a tough stretch of Houston, Spurs and Indiana. We're at the TD Garden vs Indiana, I'm sensing the streak ending there for the Pacers ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 16, 2013, 09:36:18 AM
Sully is back to face Portland! We haven't lost this season with Crawf at PG and Sully getting minutes so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us beat the Blazers today.

Them comes a tough stretch of Houston, Spurs and Indiana. We're at the TD Garden vs Indiana, I'm sensing the streak ending there for the Pacers ;)
you lost the last game....but then you have 2 starting shooting guards
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 16, 2013, 09:43:45 AM
Sully is back to face Portland! We haven't lost this season with Crawf at PG and Sully getting minutes so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us beat the Blazers today.

Them comes a tough stretch of Houston, Spurs and Indiana. We're at the TD Garden vs Indiana, I'm sensing the streak ending there for the Pacers ;)
you lost the last game....but then you have 2 starting shooting guards
Yeah we did lose but I said with Crawf at PG and Sully getting minutes we are still undefeated because Sully was out last game ;) he is arguably our most important player imo.

If only we'd started Crawf from game 1 like I told them to :P future looks good have Crawford play backup to Rondo so we can leave Bradley at SG... We already know how much of a beastly combo the Rondo/Bradley backcourt is :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 16, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
Kevin Love for MVP
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 16, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
James vs Dirk down the stretch in Miami....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 16, 2013, 12:51:47 PM
what a first half from Derek Favors 10pts 15rebs 2asts 2blks 2stls
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 16, 2013, 02:34:20 PM
Joe Johnson the ice man!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 16, 2013, 02:45:37 PM
Joe Johnson the ice man!
2 big shots on a night where he was shooting like crap
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2013, 03:05:00 PM
JBs just stated MJ's 5. Pretty poor imo.

Magic
MJ
Bird
Garnett
Shaq

Thats what I'd go. Duncan vs. Garnett was tough but decided to go with defense and a bit more floor spacing. The centre spot is crazy stacked - considered Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt and Russel but Shaq gets the edge as there arent many FTs in a pickup game ;)

garnett over duncan, dont care the reasoning bias.

Magic
MJ
Bird
Duncan/Hakeem
Kareem
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
LBJ > Bird? ::)
Oh, that wasn't much. I was expecting a better reaction Jayman! :P

I was just baiting you mate. Bird > LBJ... for now.

in a pickup game i would go bird for the threat of the 3.

LBJ is better becuase he plays the first 4 postions, with all time great big men on the team he wouldnt be as valuable.

LBJ is great at everything but he isnt truly elite at anything (as in the best ever). Unlike bird who is an amazing shooter but LBJ takes him as the overall player.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 16, 2013, 03:19:39 PM
LBJ > Bird? ::)
Oh, that wasn't much. I was expecting a better reaction Jayman! :P

I was just baiting you mate. Bird > LBJ... for now.

in a pickup game i would go bird for the threat of the 3.

LBJ is better becuase he plays the first 4 postions, with all time great big men on the team he wouldnt be as valuable.

LBJ is great at everything but he isnt truly elite at anything (as in the best ever). Unlike bird who is an amazing shooter but LBJ takes him as the overall player.
he plays all 4 positions in todays game, in the 80's and 90's he couldn't, just so many taller bigger players to contend with
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2013, 03:26:02 PM
LBJ > Bird? ::)
Oh, that wasn't much. I was expecting a better reaction Jayman! :P

I was just baiting you mate. Bird > LBJ... for now.

in a pickup game i would go bird for the threat of the 3.

LBJ is better becuase he plays the first 4 postions, with all time great big men on the team he wouldnt be as valuable.

LBJ is great at everything but he isnt truly elite at anything (as in the best ever). Unlike bird who is an amazing shooter but LBJ takes him as the overall player.
he plays all 4 positions in todays game, in the 80's and 90's he couldn't, just so many taller bigger players to contend with

agreed. people use this as a criticism for why you cant compare him to MJ etc... but you can only play to your era.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 16, 2013, 05:00:49 PM
Kevin Love - insane form.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 16, 2013, 05:03:24 PM
Kevin Love for MVP

the wolves arent good enough for that.

George James or Durrant
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 16, 2013, 05:11:59 PM
SULLINGER WENT CRAZY TODAY! WHAT A BEAST!

So happy :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 16, 2013, 06:42:22 PM
What about Lebron today; 39 points on 77% from the field (14 - 18).
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2013, 02:34:36 AM
Settle an argument.

Which team wins and why.

Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
James Worthy
Scottie Pippen
Hakeem olohajwon

V

Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
Larry Bird
Hakeem Olohajwon
Bill Russell


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2013, 07:57:40 AM
Bird and Russel easily.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 17, 2013, 01:52:15 PM
Final Score
Houston 122 Howard 25pts 7rebs, Parsons 20pts 6rebs 3asts, Harden 17pts 5rebs 9asts, Lin 16pts 4rebs 7asts, Jones 14pts 12rebs 3blks, Motiejunas 12pts, Beverley 11pts
Denver 111 Lawson 28pts 17asts, Hickson 14pts 8rebs, Chandler 14pts, Fournier 10pts

Houston were in a nice offensive groove most of the night, then Denver decided to go in "Hack a Howard" mode, it didn't work as Dwight went 17-24 from the line in the win. Terrence Jones played well and has been good since he was put in the starting line up.

the Rockets move to 7-4 and have won 3 of the past 4 games.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 17, 2013, 02:16:28 PM
Lin is killing it recently!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 17, 2013, 03:30:44 PM
Demolishin Day
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2013, 07:40:06 PM
What the flower was wrong with Green ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2013, 08:28:02 PM
What the flower was wrong with Green ::)

He isn't that good a player. It's simple
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: tor01doc on November 17, 2013, 08:48:06 PM
Holz's gold!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2013, 11:27:58 PM
What the flower was wrong with Green ::)

He isn't that good a player. It's simple
Has a better game-winning FG% than Lebron so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZdxOmoZRE

Watch it over and over again Lebron fanboys! I just love the fact that Jeff Green made an awesome play and Lebron screwed up big time... He wasn't even looking at Jeff :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 17, 2013, 11:39:08 PM
What the flower was wrong with Green ::)

He isn't that good a player. It's simple
Has a better game-winning FG% than Lebron so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZdxOmoZRE

Watch it over and over again Lebron fanboys! I just love the fact that Jeff Green made an awesome play and Lebron screwed up big time... He wasn't even looking at Jeff :o

In week 1 of the regular season.

Do it in the playoffs. It's very similar to the Allen shot except this one meant nothing.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 17, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
What the flower was wrong with Green ::)

He isn't that good a player. It's simple
Has a better game-winning FG% than Lebron so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZdxOmoZRE

Watch it over and over again Lebron fanboys! I just love the fact that Jeff Green made an awesome play and Lebron screwed up big time... He wasn't even looking at Jeff :o

In week 1 of the regular season.

Do it in the playoffs. It's very similar to the Allen shot except this one meant nothing.
I don't care it was game 1 of pre-season or game 7 of the finals, the whole play was absolutely amazing! Meant nothing? That's crazy! Gonna be a tough year for Boston fans and plays like that get us up and about! It meant a lot!

Was much more difficult than Ray's shot... Actually had to run to position catch, them shoot within 0.6 and had one of the best defenders in the league guarding him. Ray's was just a regulation shot for him...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2013, 08:45:25 AM
What the flower was wrong with Green ::)

He isn't that good a player. It's simple
Has a better game-winning FG% than Lebron so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZdxOmoZRE

Watch it over and over again Lebron fanboys! I just love the fact that Jeff Green made an awesome play and Lebron screwed up big time... He wasn't even looking at Jeff :o

In week 1 of the regular season.

Do it in the playoffs. It's very similar to the Allen shot except this one meant nothing.
I don't care it was game 1 of pre-season or game 7 of the finals, the whole play was absolutely amazing! Meant nothing? That's crazy! Gonna be a tough year for Boston fans and plays like that get us up and about! It meant a lot!

Was much more difficult than Ray's shot... Actually had to run to position catch, them shoot within 0.6 and had one of the best defenders in the league guarding him. Ray's was just a regulation shot for him...

If that's a regulation shot than ray must be the goat. Ray's shot was more difficult he was completely off falling back. Plus greens was clearly a set play, ray had no idea the ball was coming.

Take out the fact it was for a championship it was the much harder shot.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 18, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
Doesnt matter what sport crows fans have one eye :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 18, 2013, 11:00:54 AM
Doesnt matter what sport crows fans have one eye :P
:P

Although I agree with Jay here; Green's shot was a lot more difficult.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 18, 2013, 11:34:08 AM
don't anyone be fooled by the Blazers, they have had a fairly good fixture early in the season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 18, 2013, 12:22:10 PM
it seems that the Knicks are now talking to Boston about a deal for Rondo, using Shumpert as bait, they are shopping him everywhere
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2013, 12:57:43 PM
Doesnt matter what sport crows fans have one eye :P
:P

Although I agree with Jay here; Green's shot was a lot more difficult.

Doesn't the fact that it was a set play make it alot easier?

The pass was great, the catch and shoot was great, however he knew it was coming and they would have practiced it over and over again.

Allen did it completely on the fly. That's why it is more difficult.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2013, 03:25:11 PM
Doesnt matter what sport crows fans have one eye :P
:P

Although I agree with Jay here; Green's shot was a lot more difficult.
At least we have one other guy on this thread with some smarts about him :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 18, 2013, 05:05:51 PM
Doesnt matter what sport crows fans have one eye :P
:P

Although I agree with Jay here; Green's shot was a lot more difficult.

Doesn't the fact that it was a set play make it alot easier?

The pass was great, the catch and shoot was great, however he knew it was coming and they would have practiced it over and over again.

Allen did it completely on the fly. That's why it is more difficult.
I'm not sure they would've practiced that over and over again. Green's shot was incredible man, you're not giving it enough credit. Against the best defender in the league, fading away, 0.6 seconds... damn.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2013, 05:06:32 PM
Doesnt matter what sport crows fans have one eye :P
:P

Although I agree with Jay here; Green's shot was a lot more difficult.
At least we have one other guy on this thread with some smarts about him :P

I'm just suprised chumps doesn't agree with me this time. That is to say it's the first time he gas been wrong :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Noz on November 18, 2013, 05:35:22 PM
So apparently theres rumours of these trades

Rajon Rondo for Jeremy Lin and Asik

Or

Rajon Rondo for Shumpert, Raymond Felton and Stoudemire
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 18, 2013, 05:37:43 PM
So apparently theres rumours of these trades

Rajon Rondo for Jeremy Lin and Asik

Or

Rajon Rondo for Shumpert, Raymond Felton and Stoudemire

Not the Knicks one please that makes them a threat.


Celtics will have the worst team in history that is over the cap.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2013, 05:42:26 PM
Neither will happen :)

Ainge wants to build around Rondo and the Cetics have no interest in taking on Stoud's contract.

Bet anything Rondo wont be traded any time soon.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Noz on November 18, 2013, 06:03:37 PM
Nets better start picking up their shower i have them in a season long bet!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 18, 2013, 06:06:29 PM
Surely Boston fans would be happy with Asik + Lin?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2013, 06:24:36 PM
Nets better start picking up their shower i have them in a season long bet!
No thanks. I'll take their first round pick going to Boston ;D imagine if its lottery! :D

Surely Boston fans would be happy with Asik + Lin?
Think again champ. That trade mega screws us up.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 18, 2013, 06:46:51 PM
Surely Boston fans would be happy with Asik + Lin?
Think again champ. That trade mega screws us up.
[/quote]
How so?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 18, 2013, 07:15:17 PM
Lin shows flashes of brilliance and then fades into mediocrity. He isnt that true PG I think a rebuilding team like us needs. Asik is a solid player, puts up consistent numbers night in night out. Love his work on the boards but he'll never be anything special. I'd prefer us pumping minutes into Sully, Vitor and Kelly... All 3 are more versatile and probably have a higher ceiling than Asik.

People forget that Rondo is a star. Stats just dont get traded for 2 decent players; has to be a great deal unless the guy is threatening to walk (thats not Rondo). He is as consistent as you can get, shown by him holding the 2nd longest streak of 10+ assists of all-time. He has that killer instict and makes all his team-mates better... Two qualities needed to help the young guys develop.

He is one of the best all-round players in the league and deserve a shot to be the star of Boston. Him being traded will hurt me more than Pierce/KG because at least we go a good deal out of that. Rondo coming off an acl has his trade value at an all-time low right now...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Noz on November 18, 2013, 09:06:58 PM
Lin won't get better than what he already is, Opposition have already figured out how to stop him i don't see him improving much.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 18, 2013, 09:13:14 PM
Haha fair enough. I really like Asik though. I suppose I'm underrating Rondo a bit.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 19, 2013, 06:52:10 AM
Kobe is back at practice.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Noz on November 19, 2013, 10:45:48 AM
Garnett is going bananas set for a massive game.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Noz on November 19, 2013, 12:20:45 PM
Garnett is going bananas set for a massive game.

Or not.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on November 19, 2013, 02:43:42 PM
Dallas, OKC and Chicago still all undefeated at home.

Chicago still a contender; they dismantled the Pacers the other night.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 19, 2013, 11:25:30 PM
From an Indiana point of view. I worry more about them being able to beat Chicago than Miami in the playoffs. The Heat will be easy for the migjty Pacers!

Btw anyone else find it a bit funny that Igoudala's FG% is actually a fair bit higher than his free-throw :o weird for a SG/SF...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 20, 2013, 01:26:09 PM
Final Score
Houston 109 Jones 24pts 9rebs 2blks, Beverley 16pts 4rebs, Harden 15pts 5rebs 5asts, Parsons 11pts 6asts, Lin 11pts 5asts, Howard 10pts 11rebs 3blks 2stls
Boston 85 Lee 17pts, Bradley 11pts, Sullinger 11pts 9rebs, Olynyk 9pts 8rebs 3stls 1blk

Our best all round team performance, the Rockets came out and switched on with 40 points in the first quarter and never looked back. This was our third win in a row and the best team chemistry in a game i think we have had all season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 20, 2013, 01:29:06 PM
Lin won't get better than what he already is, Opposition have already figured out how to stop him i don't see him improving much.
he already has improved this season alone, he is shooting the ball much better, he is a 50-40 player so far this season while 18ppg, that is a great improvement so far

he spent the off season improving his shooting stroke like crazy and it is paying off so far.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 20, 2013, 01:30:34 PM
Lin shows flashes of brilliance and then fades into mediocrity. He isnt that true PG I think a rebuilding team like us needs. Asik is a solid player, puts up consistent numbers night in night out. Love his work on the boards but he'll never be anything special. I'd prefer us pumping minutes into Sully, Vitor and Kelly... All 3 are more versatile and probably have a higher ceiling than Asik.

People forget that Rondo is a star. Stats just dont get traded for 2 decent players; has to be a great deal unless the guy is threatening to walk (thats not Rondo). He is as consistent as you can get, shown by him holding the 2nd longest streak of 10+ assists of all-time. He has that killer instict and makes all his team-mates better... Two qualities needed to help the young guys develop.

He is one of the best all-round players in the league and deserve a shot to be the star of Boston. Him being traded will hurt me more than Pierce/KG because at least we go a good deal out of that. Rondo coming off an acl has his trade value at an all-time low right now...
Joakim Noah isn't anything special but he is a solid team player who does his job, Asik is the same.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 20, 2013, 03:32:57 PM
Flowering showerhouse performance by Boston ::)

Lin shows flashes of brilliance and then fades into mediocrity. He isnt that true PG I think a rebuilding team like us needs. Asik is a solid player, puts up consistent numbers night in night out. Love his work on the boards but he'll never be anything special. I'd prefer us pumping minutes into Sully, Vitor and Kelly... All 3 are more versatile and probably have a higher ceiling than Asik.

People forget that Rondo is a star. Stats just dont get traded for 2 decent players; has to be a great deal unless the guy is threatening to walk (thats not Rondo). He is as consistent as you can get, shown by him holding the 2nd longest streak of 10+ assists of all-time. He has that killer instict and makes all his team-mates better... Two qualities needed to help the young guys develop.

He is one of the best all-round players in the league and deserve a shot to be the star of Boston. Him being traded will hurt me more than Pierce/KG because at least we go a good deal out of that. Rondo coming off an acl has his trade value at an all-time low right now...
Joakim Noah isn't anything special but he is a solid team player who does his job, Asik is the same.
Asik should never even be mentioned in the same sentence as Joakim...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 20, 2013, 07:44:26 PM
Green has scored 6 points in total over his last 2 games... Man, I really miss Paul Pierce :( doesn't have the talent Jeff Green does these days but he NEVER went missing for too long like Green does.

#Takemebackto2008

The rebuilding year is starting to take it's toll :-\
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 21, 2013, 04:52:40 AM
Flowering showerhouse performance by Boston ::)

Lin shows flashes of brilliance and then fades into mediocrity. He isnt that true PG I think a rebuilding team like us needs. Asik is a solid player, puts up consistent numbers night in night out. Love his work on the boards but he'll never be anything special. I'd prefer us pumping minutes into Sully, Vitor and Kelly... All 3 are more versatile and probably have a higher ceiling than Asik.

People forget that Rondo is a star. Stats just dont get traded for 2 decent players; has to be a great deal unless the guy is threatening to walk (thats not Rondo). He is as consistent as you can get, shown by him holding the 2nd longest streak of 10+ assists of all-time. He has that killer instict and makes all his team-mates better... Two qualities needed to help the young guys develop.

He is one of the best all-round players in the league and deserve a shot to be the star of Boston. Him being traded will hurt me more than Pierce/KG because at least we go a good deal out of that. Rondo coming off an acl has his trade value at an all-time low right now...
Joakim Noah isn't anything special but he is a solid team player who does his job, Asik is the same.
Asik should never even be mentioned in the same sentence as Joakim...
both are great defensive centres, Asik dominated him in both meetings last season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9AYDcze--c
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 21, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
35 Pts, 5 Reb, 4 Ast, 5 Stl & 2 Blk

That game was rated P.G  :)


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on November 21, 2013, 02:11:41 PM
35 Pts, 5 Reb, 4 Ast, 5 Stl & 2 Blk

That game was rated P.G  :)
*cringes
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 21, 2013, 04:29:03 PM
Sully with 19 points, 17 rebs... *jizzes*

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 21, 2013, 07:14:21 PM
just renovating my site, what do you think ?
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/kingkingston/homepage_zps83326e2e.png)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 22, 2013, 08:34:05 AM
Sully with 19 points, 17 rebs... *jizzes*

;D ;D ;D

Didn't do much good.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 22, 2013, 03:37:12 PM
Sully with 19 points, 17 rebs... *jizzes*

;D ;D ;D

Didn't do much good.
Well he outplayed the greatest PF of all-time...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 23, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
Wow, John Wall goes 15-21 for 37 points. That's what I like to see from one of my favourites :D me saying he'll be better than Kyrie doesn't looks so dumb now, does it? Wall has been playing at a very high-level so far whereas Irving has been sluggish...

Oh and the Green Machine bounces back with a nice 20-point game!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 23, 2013, 03:59:32 PM
And D-Rose has injured his knee... Again...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 23, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
And D-Rose has injured his knee... Again...

Other knee. Marc Gasol has also done a knee, so if both of them have done ACL's it could be season over for both the Grizz and Bulls
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 23, 2013, 05:09:02 PM
Wow, John Wall goes 15-21 for 37 points. That's what I like to see from one of my favourites :D me saying he'll be better than Kyrie doesn't looks so dumb now, does it? Wall has been playing at a very high-level so far whereas Irving has been sluggish...

Oh and the Green Machine bounces back with a nice 20-point game!

didnt most people know wall was a gun, one of the best passes in the league. said it than, will say it again irving is the better player. he just needs to work on his D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on November 23, 2013, 05:13:26 PM
Wall has always had talent.

How about that CP3?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 23, 2013, 06:28:49 PM
Rose could end up like Brandon Roy.....
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on November 23, 2013, 09:36:48 PM
Potential for Rose to be first MVP to not be in the hall of fame?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 23, 2013, 11:49:56 PM
Potential for Rose to be first MVP to not be in the hall of fame?

Still young has plenty of time left.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 24, 2013, 12:01:03 AM
Potential for Rose to be first MVP to not be in the hall of fame?

Still young has plenty of time left.
Torn ACl on both knees? Not sounding good... I'm with calum, he'll be the first MVP not in the hall of fame
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: RiOtChEsS on November 24, 2013, 09:47:48 AM
DmC near had a 20-20 game against the Clippers today (23pts-17rebs-7dimes)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on November 24, 2013, 03:22:31 PM
Potential for Rose to be first MVP to not be in the hall of fame?

Still young has plenty of time left.
Torn ACl on both knees? Not sounding good... I'm with calum, he'll be the first MVP not in the hall of fame
he didn't do his ACL and yes he will be in the Hall of Fame one day
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on November 24, 2013, 05:16:26 PM
Its only a mensicus. Should be 2-4 weeks before full training and 4-6 without game time. Because of injuries, id assume he wont be back till Feb.

Also, Anthony Davis being a beast, LBJ having his worst year, yet still doms. CP3 in a good team and poooooffff, he is MVP leader imo, and lol, not even his best year so far. lol @ anyone who thought he wasnt the 3rd best player or best PG by miles in this league

*looking at you jayman  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 24, 2013, 05:37:02 PM
Poor 'Ol Sullinger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS7vHsK4wHE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS7vHsK4wHE)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 24, 2013, 05:38:37 PM
Poor 'Ol Sullinger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS7vHsK4wHE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS7vHsK4wHE)
We won :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Andrew3737 on November 24, 2013, 05:49:39 PM
Best defence ever by vic fav
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 26, 2013, 12:32:36 PM
Rose out for the entire year.

He is cooked.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 26, 2013, 01:25:17 PM
Rose out for the entire year.

He is cooked.

Yup
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 26, 2013, 03:11:26 PM
Celtics win! I think Jordan Crawford is slowly becoming one of our most valuable trade chips...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 26, 2013, 04:12:49 PM
Celtics win! I think Jordan Crawford is slowly becoming one of our most valuable trade chips...

Brooklyn flowered up big time. KG should have retired.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 26, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Celtics win! I think Jordan Crawford is slowly becoming one of our most valuable trade chips...

Brooklyn flowered up big time. KG should have retired.
I do admit that it was a great trade for us in hindsight. 3 first round picks :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: j959 on November 27, 2013, 11:56:17 AM
Green has scored 6 points in total over his last 2 games... Man, I really miss Paul Pierce :( doesn't have the talent Jeff Green does these days but he NEVER went missing for too long like Green does.

#Takemebackto2008

The rebuilding year is starting to take it's toll :-\
you should try being a fan of Phoenix!   :(   :P    ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 27, 2013, 11:57:27 AM
Green has scored 6 points in total over his last 2 games... Man, I really miss Paul Pierce :( doesn't have the talent Jeff Green does these days but he NEVER went missing for too long like Green does.

#Takemebackto2008

The rebuilding year is starting to take it's toll :-\
you should try being a fan of Phoenix!   :(   :P    ;)
You had those Nash/Stoudemire days and now you have a great young guard in Bledsoe, a solid frontcourt and will get a great pick in this years draft! I like where the Suns are heading :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: j959 on November 27, 2013, 12:02:07 PM
Green has scored 6 points in total over his last 2 games... Man, I really miss Paul Pierce :( doesn't have the talent Jeff Green does these days but he NEVER went missing for too long like Green does.

#Takemebackto2008

The rebuilding year is starting to take it's toll :-\
you should try being a fan of Phoenix!   :(   :P    ;)
You had those Nash/Stoudemire days and now you have a great young guard in Bledsoe, a solid frontcourt and will get a great pick in this years draft! I like where the Suns are heading :)
but it's a long rebuilding phase since then ...

yep, the best pick-up was the new GM McDonough from the Celtics ... heading in the right direction ...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 27, 2013, 06:06:38 PM
John Wall with 3 straight 30+ point games... ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 08:25:53 AM
I think Wall has overtook Kyrie for now.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Levis43 on November 28, 2013, 08:30:02 AM
John Wall with 3 straight 30+ point games... ;D

Finally! I've been waiting for him to finally explode. ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 08:39:56 AM
Just had look at the East & West conference standings:

East:
Indiana
Miami
Atlanta
Toronto
Charlotte
Chicago
Detroit
Washington
____________________________
Philadelphia
Boston
Orlando
Cleveland
Brooklyn
New York
Milwaukee

West:

San Antonio
Portland
OKC
Clippers
Houston
Golden State
Dallas
Denver
_________________
Minnesota
Memphis
Phoenix
Lakers
New Orleans
Sacramento
Utah

What are people thoughts on the ladder thus far, who will drop off. Who has been the surprise packet & who has dissapointed you thus far?

For me, New York at 3-10 is very disappointing and I think Melo will leave nek year. No surprises with Utah & Milwaukee being so bad. Portland look to be back where they were back in the Roy days maybe...

Bobcats in the top 8! Watch out!  ;D

Philly aren't a bad as I thought they would be with Turner turning the corner & MCW is just beastly some nights.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 12:41:29 PM
Patty Mills is getting good minutes in the 4th QTR against OKC. Sank a 3 to get Spurs within 5.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 28, 2013, 01:30:28 PM
Miami 95 - Cleveland 84

Lebron James 28 points
Dwayne Wade 22 points
Michael Beasley 17 points
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 28, 2013, 01:58:54 PM
What are people thoughts on the ladder thus far, who will drop off. Who has been the surprise packet & who has dissapointed you thus far?

For me, New York at 3-10 is very disappointing and I think Melo will leave nek year. No surprises with Utah & Milwaukee being so bad. Portland look to be back where they were back in the Roy days maybe...

Bobcats in the top 8! Watch out!  ;D

Philly aren't a bad as I thought they would be with Turner turning the corner & MCW is just beastly some nights.
Boston aren't that far out of the playoff race, and with Rondo coming back, who knows ;)

Philly will drop off, even though my prediction for M.I.P Evan Turner is playing like a beast... Brooklyn wont be bad for this long unfortunately, too much experience to not improve. Tbh, I've never seen the eastern conference with the 2 teams being so far infront of everyone else, like Miami and Indiana are this year. No one else can even come close to challenging...

Spurs 13-1... Doesnt this happen every year? Get no publicity and everyone thinks they're too old but those boys just keep winning!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
Poppovich is just a genius.  :P

 Although Duncan has slowed down a lot this year so far. I think he can't be flowered with regular season. He just wants finals action!  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 28, 2013, 02:10:38 PM
Just read through the thread when I said Wall > Kyrie :P
Here it is, the pick which separates me from the rest. I rate this guy really highly in fact higher than I rate Kyrie Irving.

Then I proceed to get slammed by everyone...
How can you say he's better than Irving?! Seriously, will be great, but Kyrie?!?!

Kwame > John Wall

State that it is who would you rather build around over the next 7 years, Marcz
Kyrie... Playoff basketball isnt won by flashy teams its won in the trenches, half court basketball and team defense, Kyrie is a triple threat, he gives me an accurate shooter that by default has the ball in his hands a lot of the time and in the clutch, defenses have to respect that, John's jump shooting %'s arent good for a primary ball handler and that scares me as it makes him predictable and only a double threat, Wall is giving me things id want in a SF and he doesnt give me all i want in a PG, dont get me wrong here Wall is a tremendous talent but i cant ever see him winning a ring, he needs a mediocre team to have those big stat stuffing lines, It really is an easy choice for me based on my basketball philosphy, ur PG needs to be an efficient scorer with 3PT range, not a dominant scorer but an efficient one to go along with all the skills.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/kyrie-irving-vs-john-wall-1289642/
http://www.basketballforum.com/nba-forum/476097-kyrie-irving-vs-john-wall.html

Read Up Young Blood ::) it aint even close...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 02:15:30 PM
Irving's FG % is some games makes me sick.   :P

His 3P% even more.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 28, 2013, 02:18:27 PM
We should do one of those drafts again. Was heaps fun :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 02:22:10 PM
Would be keen. What are other versions that we haven't tried?  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 28, 2013, 02:24:18 PM
Would be keen. What are other versions that we haven't tried?  :P
Think we've tried everything :P but the dynasty ones are always the best...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 03:39:59 PM
What about just a straight up one season. Could be a mix of young, retired and current all star talent?  ???



Loving Stuckey's work this year. Picked him off waivers  in fantasy and has gone 16+ points 8 straight games as a 6th man.

Is he 6th man of the year potential? 27.8 minutes, 2.5 boards, 2.5 assists 1.2 steals, 15.9 points, 49 FG%, & 40% 3P

Smith from last year:

33 minutes, 5.3 boards, 2.7 assists, 2.8 steals, 18.1 points, 42% FG & 35% 3P

Early days though!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 28, 2013, 04:01:06 PM
What about just a straight up one season. Could be a mix of young, retired and current all star talent?  ???
I was thinking like just a single season and we use 2k to decide the winner 8) could put all the teams in there and just simulate a season? Would be cool to stats etc.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2013, 04:03:11 PM
Using 2K sounds like a good idea.  :)

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 28, 2013, 06:59:21 PM
Portland and San Antonio both losing today to the Suns and Thunder respectively
makes it tight at the top again
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on November 29, 2013, 12:17:23 PM
Would be keen. What are other versions that we haven't tried?  :P
Think we've tried everything :P but the dynasty ones are always the best...
Can someone explain?:p
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 29, 2013, 12:46:23 PM
Would be keen. What are other versions that we haven't tried?  :P
Think we've tried everything :P but the dynasty ones are always the best...
Can someone explain?:p
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,70542.0.html
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on November 29, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
Would be keen. What are other versions that we haven't tried?  :P
Think we've tried everything :P but the dynasty ones are always the best...
Can someone explain?:p
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,70542.0.html

curry george durrant i change my vote to windi.

beats my Lebron Cousins Rose now that rose is gone again.

keen to do another dynasty one, alot has changed.


also 6. Jayman - Andrew Bynum :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 29, 2013, 02:00:09 PM
Ahh Andrew Bynum... That was golden ;D

Should I start a thread up ???
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2013, 07:34:42 AM
George at pick 17 in that draft was mint.  :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 10:55:17 AM
Join the dynasty draft guys :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
Celtics pumping the Cavs.  ;)

Duncan of old, 17 points & 7 boards to H/T.  8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 11:06:39 AM
Watching the Celts game :)

Why Stevens refuses to start Vitor when we came up against big guys (Bynum) puzzles me... And Bass plays better as a reserve anyway ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on November 30, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
Green on fire
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 11:34:36 AM
Green Machine loving the FT line tonight! ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2013, 11:47:49 AM
Flower Brooklyn are bad. Down by the best part of 20 points Vs Rockets.  ::)

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 11:54:39 AM
Bradley's jump-shot today :o  :-*  ;D

Green on fire
Ill let you pick him if you join the dynasty draft :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2013, 12:18:45 PM
Shocking 4th Q in Toronto. Heat have scored only 8 points & Raptors only 11 with under 2 mins to go.  :P Bosh fouls out and no one can even make free throws.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 12:22:06 PM
STOP SHOOTING FLOWERING THREES GERALD!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 30, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
Shocking 4th Q in Toronto. Heat have scored only 8 points & Raptors only 11 with under 2 mins to go.  :P Bosh fouls out and no one can even make free throws.

the quality of the game in general was crap
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 12:30:37 PM
Shocking 4th Q in Toronto. Heat have scored only 8 points & Raptors only 11 with under 2 mins to go.  :P Bosh fouls out and no one can even make free throws.

the quality of the game in general was crap
the cHeat are crap...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 12:35:39 PM
Another reason why I think Sully will be a top 5 PF... I 100% trust his 3-point game, great addition to his skillset!

The D keeps letting him shoot it, he keeps making it! 4 threes tonight :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 12:49:03 PM
Player of the game? Jordan Crawford with the triple double or Jeff Green with 31 points ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on November 30, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
That Russell Westbrook shot

Wow
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 30, 2013, 02:31:43 PM
Shocking 4th Q in Toronto. Heat have scored only 8 points & Raptors only 11 with under 2 mins to go.  :P Bosh fouls out and no one can even make free throws.

the quality of the game in general was crap
the cHeat are crap...

LOL how is Lebron AND BOSH CHOOSING to go to Miami cheating?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on November 30, 2013, 02:37:28 PM
That Russell Westbrook shot

Wow
I had to reply that 5 times. Did not believe it.

Most times my heart has been broken in one day :(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 02:40:09 PM
Ok, I'm gonna say it... Russ is more important to OKC than Durant is :o :o :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2013, 05:22:47 PM
Won $200 bucks on my nba multi with the clippers getting over the line.  :)

Up $400 last 2 days in the nba.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2013, 05:35:29 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1425775_685681791462496_1026316549_n.png)

Classic.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 05:43:57 PM
GET AROUND J-CRAW
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on November 30, 2013, 05:50:52 PM
Ok, I'm gonna say it... Russ is more important to OKC than Durant is :o :o :o

how did you not know that already?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2013, 05:58:35 PM
Ok, I'm gonna say it... Russ is more important to OKC than Durant is :o :o :o

how did you not know that already?
I'm a huge KD fan but I've conceded that Russ is now the alpha dog of that team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1474543_458166277620579_1293924305_n.jpg)

So true. 
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on December 01, 2013, 01:31:22 PM
Sully is Kevin Love v2
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on December 01, 2013, 01:41:28 PM
Sully is Kevin Love v2

He has the ability for 20+/20+ games while shooting 50% from outside?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 01, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Final Score
Houston 112 Harden 31pts 7rebs 6asts 1stl 1blk, Parsons 25pts 3rebs 5asts 2stls 1blk, Howard 13pts 11rebs, Beverley 11pts 6rebs 5asts 3stls 1blk, Jones 10pts 16rebs
San Antonio 106 Parker 27pts 6rebs 8asts, Duncan 20pts 8rebs 3blks, Belinelli 18pts, Ginobili 9pts 11asts

What a win, our best of the season, a statement win to show that we can mix it with the best. James Harden had a cracking 4th quarter after the Rockets blew another lead before The Beard took over late. Chandler Parsons continued his crazy three point shooting run and Terrence Jones was impressive again.

The Rockets have 5 wins in a row and have won 8 of the past 9 games now and play the Jazz next
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 01, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
Ok, I'm gonna say it... Russ is more important to OKC than Durant is :o :o :o
pretty ridiculous statement, you take KD and not Westbrook out of that team and the Thunder would still have lost in the second round last season, they are equally as important to the team.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on December 01, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
Sully is Kevin Love v2

He has the ability for 20+/20+ games while shooting 50% from outside?
Well considering he's only started roughly 10 times and averaging around 10/16 at 50%

so yeah I reckon, not many big men can knock down the 3 ball too...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on December 01, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
pretty ridiculous statement, you take KD and not Westbrook out of that team and the Thunder would still have lost in the second round last season, they are equally as important to the team.

Agreed, KD helps Westbrook by taking so much attention. Teams would rather let Westbrook jack up shots. Westbrook is a star, but OKC only have two scorers on that team, you take one of them away and the team will struggle in the playoffs like they did last season.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on December 01, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Well considering he's only started roughly 10 times and averaging around 10/16 at 50%

so yeah I reckon, not many big men can knock down the 3 ball too...

If Love could play defense he would be the best player in the league. He puts up numbers people have not seen since the early 80's. He had a 30/30 game a couple years back which is just crazy.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: caluuum on December 01, 2013, 05:09:07 PM
Yeah he's probably my favourite player
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 01, 2013, 06:02:51 PM
Spurs 14 - 3. Who said we'd drop off?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 01, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Just read through the thread when I said Wall > Kyrie :P
Here it is, the pick which separates me from the rest. I rate this guy really highly in fact higher than I rate Kyrie Irving.

Then I proceed to get slammed by everyone...
How can you say he's better than Irving?! Seriously, will be great, but Kyrie?!?!

Kwame > John Wall

State that it is who would you rather build around over the next 7 years, Marcz
Kyrie... Playoff basketball isnt won by flashy teams its won in the trenches, half court basketball and team defense, Kyrie is a triple threat, he gives me an accurate shooter that by default has the ball in his hands a lot of the time and in the clutch, defenses have to respect that, John's jump shooting %'s arent good for a primary ball handler and that scares me as it makes him predictable and only a double threat, Wall is giving me things id want in a SF and he doesnt give me all i want in a PG, dont get me wrong here Wall is a tremendous talent but i cant ever see him winning a ring, he needs a mediocre team to have those big stat stuffing lines, It really is an easy choice for me based on my basketball philosphy, ur PG needs to be an efficient scorer with 3PT range, not a dominant scorer but an efficient one to go along with all the skills.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/kyrie-irving-vs-john-wall-1289642/
http://www.basketballforum.com/nba-forum/476097-kyrie-irving-vs-john-wall.html

Read Up Young Blood ::) it aint even close...
Let's not forget that Wall's got a couple of years on Kyrie. I'm still backing him in ;)

Was a ballsy call though Jay and it's paid off so far. Props for that :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 01, 2013, 07:51:11 PM
I just think Durants performance in the playoffs and the way this season has started, has Russ seeming like he is the leader of that team = more important.

On a side note, my boy Andrew Bynum is back! 20 points, 10 boards, 5blocks leading the Cavs to a win ;D

Sully is Kevin Love v2
Finally, someone who agrees with me! Sully actually plays solid D though ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 01, 2013, 08:35:25 PM
There is absolutely no way Westbrook is more important to OKC than Durant.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 02, 2013, 07:32:48 AM
There is absolutely no way Westbrook is more important to OKC than Durant.
Did you not see Durant in his 4 straight losses to Memphis in the conference semis? He went 1-7 from the field in late game situations in those 4 games... He just isn't aggressive enough to survive without Westbrook. Russ is clearly the more aggressive player and has that killer instinct I'm not sure Durant has :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 02, 2013, 09:19:02 AM
There is absolutely no way Westbrook is more important to OKC than Durant.
Did you not see Durant in his 4 straight losses to Memphis in the conference semis? He went 1-7 from the field in late game situations in those 4 games... He just isn't aggressive enough to survive without Westbrook. Russ is clearly the more aggressive player and has that killer instinct I'm not sure Durant has :o

while i agree with durrant hasnt got the mentality, take away durrant and they probably would get 4 straight losses too. Its tough when you have 2 scoring options and one disapears.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 02, 2013, 11:21:52 AM
Curry is single-handedly trying to seal this game for GS.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 02, 2013, 11:31:13 AM
Bogut with the game winning block.  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 02, 2013, 12:06:26 PM
Not a bad days work for Kevin Durant 32pts 10rebs 12asts 4blks 4stls 14-21fg 3-4 from three

only Michael Jordan has done the same stat line in the past 25 years
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 02, 2013, 12:16:05 PM
Not a bad days work for Kevin Durant 32pts 10rebs 12asts 4blks 4stls 14-21fg 3-4 from three

only Michael Jordan has done the same stat line in the past 25 years
Thats gotta be his best stat line ever :o

Dont get me wrong, I love KD. He's the only guy that can challenge LBJ for #1 :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 02, 2013, 12:37:45 PM
Not a bad days work for Kevin Durant 32pts 10rebs 12asts 4blks 4stls 14-21fg 3-4 from three

only Michael Jordan has done the same stat line in the past 25 years
Thats gotta be his best stat line ever :o

Dont get me wrong, I love KD. He's the only guy that can challenge LBJ for #1 :o
its pretty darn good not too far away from lebrons (except his was in the playoffs)


Lebron James 18-33 FG, 10-14 FT, 48 PTS, 9 REB, 7 AST, 2 STL  (IN THE ECF)
he scored 29 of the cavs last 30 points including the game winner.


Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 02, 2013, 12:46:22 PM
I disagree, Holz. Lebron's greatest ever game was game 6 vs Boston in the 2012 ECF. Celtics had the chance to close it out at home but Lebron just destroyed us. First time I've ever seen 1 man beat us :'(

Still haunts me today.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 02, 2013, 01:01:55 PM
Chris Bosh going crazy in the last 3 minutes vs the Bobcats  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 02, 2013, 01:03:13 PM
Chris Bosh going crazy in the last 3 minutes vs the Bobcats  :o
Didnt he score 13 in 150 seconds or something? :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 02, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
Chris Bosh going crazy in the last 3 minutes vs the Bobcats  :o
Didnt he score 13 in 150 seconds or something? :o
Yeah, hit three straight 3 pointers to get the Heat up by a point.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 02, 2013, 01:57:56 PM
I disagree, Holz. Lebron's greatest ever game was game 6 vs Boston in the 2012 ECF. Celtics had the chance to close it out at home but Lebron just destroyed us. First time I've ever seen 1 man beat us :'(

Still haunts me today.

and my friends all said he was saved in that series by bosh.

that game

19-26 5-9 FT 45 PTS 15 REB 5 ASTS

still an amazing game but ill take his cleveland one over that, he scored the last 25 points straight and the game winner with 2 seconds to go. amazingly clutch game.    
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 02, 2013, 02:21:21 PM
Yep, thats the game that still gives me nightmares. But if we didnt get screwed by the refs in game 2, none of it would've happened ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 02, 2013, 02:42:07 PM
davis injured again. really unlucky with the broken hand. I thought he was an outside shot of DPOY.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 03, 2013, 01:21:30 PM
The Wizards, led by John Wall are now the 3rd seed in the east :) this kid is big time...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 03, 2013, 02:08:02 PM
The Wizards, led by John Wall are now the 3rd seed in the east :) this kid is big time...

compunded with east (bar pacers heat) being small time.

Also Beal has been pretty good, lets see how they go without him.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 03, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
There like 4-1 without Beal I think.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 03, 2013, 05:33:15 PM
George exploded for 43 points @ 53%.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on December 03, 2013, 05:51:04 PM
George exploded for 43 points @ 53%.  :)

will be an all star starter easily

tim duncan.....  8) (so long as he doesnt do that against Miami :P)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 03, 2013, 05:59:46 PM
All-Star is a mere formality.  ;)

Duncan's game and shot was insane.  8)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on December 03, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
his stat line of 20 and 20 was pretty impressive
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 04, 2013, 01:43:24 PM
Michael Carter-Williams 27 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists and 3 steals

Victor Oladipo 26 points, 10 assists, 10 rebounds and 3 steals


Dayum.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on December 04, 2013, 09:22:17 PM
1 and 2 in ROY

wow
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 05, 2013, 03:15:41 PM
Aldridge was in beast mode as Portland defeat OKC.  :)

Portland's bench is a concern if they start getting injuries..

Collectively shot 7/23 from the field and scored 20/111 points.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 05, 2013, 04:01:46 PM
Harden went 0/10 from deep :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on December 05, 2013, 06:43:46 PM
Eastern Conference is pretty one sided so far

Pacers(17-2), Heat(14-4), and the Wizards(9-9) with the third place standing.

In the Western Conference, that (9-9) record puts you in 12th place

That's behind Blazers (16-3), Spurs (15-3), Okc (13-4), Clippers (12-7), Nuggets (11-7), Mavs (12-8), Gs (11-8), Grizzlies (9-8), Suns (10-9)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 05, 2013, 06:47:50 PM
Bet you guys never thought that Boston would be top of a division that includes the Nets and the Knicks after 20 games would you? That puts us 4th in the conference :)

Boy, wouldnt Pierce and KG wish they were back in Boston now!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 05, 2013, 06:49:16 PM
The Eastern Conference is a damn joke.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 05, 2013, 09:46:47 PM
Sully has a PER of 18.57, only Anthony Davis has a better rating for PFs under the age of 23.

Just love watching this kid play! Celts getting him at pick 21 surely has to be one of the steals of the last couple of drafts? ???

I think that Jared Sullinger is the best player we have besides Rondo and should be the main guy we build around going forward, thats how high I rate him. ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 05, 2013, 10:12:55 PM
Sully has a PER of 18.57, only Anthony Davis has a better rating for PFs under the age of 23.
And Davis has a PER of 28  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 05, 2013, 10:24:12 PM
Sully has a PER of 18.57, only Anthony Davis has a better rating for PFs under the age of 23.
And Davis has a PER of 28  ;D
That kid is just a freak of nature :P

I love Green but he fades out of games, Sully is aggresive every single play, does the hustle plays that dont show up on the stat sheet! He can score down low, hit a mid-range jumper/turnaround and his range extends to the 3pt line too. He is an absolute beast on the boards for his size and plays really solid defense, his points allowed per posession are as low some of the best big men in the league. Brad Stevens is playing Sully (6foot9) as a centre yet he is still more than holding his own insode against the bigger bodies.

You get my point :P this kid is special.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 06, 2013, 07:29:47 AM
Bet you guys never thought that Boston would be top of a division that includes the Nets and the Knicks after 20 games would you? That puts us 4th in the conference :)

Boy, wouldnt Pierce and KG wish they were back in Boston now!
Nets will end up with a better record
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 06, 2013, 07:30:23 AM
Eastern Conference is pretty one sided so far

Pacers(17-2), Heat(14-4), and the Wizards(9-9) with the third place standing.

In the Western Conference, that (9-9) record puts you in 12th place

That's behind Blazers (16-3), Spurs (15-3), Okc (13-4), Clippers (12-7), Nuggets (11-7), Mavs (12-8), Gs (11-8), Grizzlies (9-8), Suns (10-9)
you left out Atlanta at 10-10
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 06, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
Carlos Boozer again turning into a beast when he plays Miami. 19 Pts, 4 Reb, 1 Ast at the half :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 06, 2013, 01:58:25 PM
The New York teams are a damn joke.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 06, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
Eastern Conference is pretty one sided so far

Pacers(17-2), Heat(14-4), and the Wizards(9-9) with the third place standing.

In the Western Conference, that (9-9) record puts you in 12th place

That's behind Blazers (16-3), Spurs (15-3), Okc (13-4), Clippers (12-7), Nuggets (11-7), Mavs (12-8), Gs (11-8), Grizzlies (9-8), Suns (10-9)

and yet the Eastern Conference will win for the 3rd straight year. either Pacers or Heat.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 06, 2013, 02:04:23 PM
We may as well just skip the regular season of the eastern conference and just go to the Pacers vs. Heat ECF.

Couldn't be more confident about Indiana taking out Miami.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 06, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
Heat just don't give a flower about reg season. Pacers games are so much better to watch.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 10:46:48 AM
Boston on ESPN? I cannot believe my eyes!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 11:05:41 AM
Boston on ESPN? I cannot believe my eyes!
That 1st quarter was great!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
Did I seriously just see that? Humphries with the posterizing dunk on the fast break and then the massive block off the backboard on the other end!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 11:55:45 AM
Sullinger has butter fingers today, stop going to him in the post.

Crawford and Bass are on fire.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
Gotta give it up for how Humph played today!

We've now beaten Denver, Atlanta and Miami :D
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 07, 2013, 01:23:47 PM
Final Score
Houston 105 Harden 34pts 7rebs 4asts 1blk 1stl, Howard 22pts 18rebs 3stls 1blk, Jones 16pts 10rebs 3blks 3stls
Golden State 83 Curry 22pts, Barnes 14pts 7rebs 4stls 1blk, Bazemore 12pts, Lee 11pts

The Rockets bounced back after a couple of down performances, Harden and Howard dominated as the Rockets continued their dominance of the Warriors from last season
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 01:47:37 PM
Uncle Drew goes 0-9 versus Hawks! John Wall hasn't had a bucketless game ;)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
Uncle Drew goes 0-9 versus Hawks! John Wall hasn't had a bucketless game ;)

Lets give Irving 2 more years and than compare him to current wall

On a plus side waiters was good.

Irving waiters v wall Beal

I give the edge to the wizards at the moment, Cavs long term.

Pick up Wiggins and it's game over.

Thompson looking good too.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 06:36:21 PM
Wall and Beal SMASHES Irving and Waiters.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 06:38:19 PM
Wall and Beal SMASHES Irving and Waiters.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 07:22:37 PM
Wall and Beal SMASHES Irving and Waiters.

Irving in 2 years + Waiters v Wall + Beal.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 07:30:37 PM
Wall and Beal SMASHES Irving and Waiters.

Irving in 2 years + Waiters v Wall + Beal.
Long-term or short-term I take the Wizards backcourt... Simply because Wall beats Irving comfortably now but admittedly that gap may shrink later down the track but I can't see Waiters ever passing Beal.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 07:32:36 PM
Wall and Beal SMASHES Irving and Waiters.

Irving in 2 years + Waiters v Wall + Beal.
Long-term or short-term I take the Wizards backcourt... Simply because Wall beats Irving comfortably now but admittedly that gap may shrink later down the track but I can't see Waiters ever passing Beal.

fair call on the beal one, im a big beal fan.

add in thompson and that equation shifts towards the cavs a little more.

Irving Waiters Thompson v Wall Beal ????

I have decided im going to be a cav fan long term. (untill undle drew leaves ;) )
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 07:42:20 PM
Well that's 3 v 2 Holz  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 07:52:47 PM
Well that's 3 v 2 Holz  ::)

true i really couldnt think of another up and coming player for wizards
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
Well that's 3 v 2 Holz  ::)

true i really couldnt think of another up and coming player for wizards
Otto Porter has serious potential...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 08:06:55 PM
Well that's 3 v 2 Holz  ::)

true i really couldnt think of another up and coming player for wizards
Otto Porter has serious potential...

surely bennett has to be alright to go at 1. seriously though what a spud draft.

if only we had pick 1 next year.

Irving Waiters Wiggins Thompson Bynum.

i love it.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 08:11:18 PM
I doubt Kyrie will stay there much longer...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 08:11:31 PM
No, Bennett is not alright and no it wasnt that bad of a draft. We've uncapped two starts in MCW and Oladipo. People forget about Nerlens Noel too, he could be an elite big guy!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 08:15:37 PM
I doubt Kyrie will stay there much longer...

because its a small market team?

I think they have a nice list going (something lebron never had)

im assuming they will get another lottery pick, which next year will give a solid player hopefully.

Irving Waiters Thompson Pick.  starting to get a decent list.

also Lebron what are people thinking Miami, Cavs, Lakers?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 08:19:52 PM
Only 2 options for Lebron

a) He stays with Miami in order to try and prove to people that he is "loyal"

b) Goes back to Cleveland because apparently before he left, his ultimate goal was to bring a championship to Cleveland. Maybe this is still the case?

I'm banking on option a.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 08:24:13 PM
Only 2 options for Lebron

a) He stays with Miami in order to try and prove to people that he is "loyal"

b) Goes back to Cleveland because apparently before he left, his ultimate goal was to bring a championship to Cleveland. Maybe this is still the case?

I'm banking on option a.

can he win in cleveland though, i think he needs a true big man to combat guys like hibbert. Lebron is a monster but he cant stop 7 footers.

thompson cant do that either. Bynum isnt up for it with his knees.

I legit feel that Irving Waiters Lebron Thompson all star big C could win a ring.

you want a guy to take that last shot to win a flag than its irving.

issue is cleveland are too small market, will they get mecanries like allen etc.. to join.



thing is with miami, do they keep wade and his knees and bosh and his issues. not sure i see the big 3 staying together and i doubt the heat will kick out wade, bosh maybee
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 08:33:35 PM
Holz you are dreaming with Cleveland. I think LeBron will stay at Miami and if not he could end up at another team with a lot of cap space.

Cleveland are all talk but no walk, all good having promising young players but they need to step up and prove themselves as well as stick together to just be competitive. Kyrie will leave, one because it's a small market team, two because their list is overrated and three they aren't getting results. Don't forget Bynum is on a 1+1 contract as well...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 08:34:32 PM
I can see Bosh leaving from a mile away, I have a feeling he misses being the number 1 option like he was in Toronto. I doubt Miami have forgotten that he didnt score in game 7 either...

Wade is arguably the greatest player ever in the Miami Heat franchise and I think he should be their number 1 option in re-signing.

I cant see Cleveland being able to afford Irving, Waiters, Lebron and TT seeing as they are a small-market team. Surely guys like Waiters would attract more $$$ elsewhere?

Also, maybe Lebron wouldnt want to go to Cleveland... I mean, they are seriously under-performing this year - including Irving!
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Holz you are dreaming with Cleveland. I think LeBron will stay at Miami and if not he could end up at another team with a lot of cap space.

Cleveland are all talk but no walk, all good having promising young players but they need to step up and prove themselves as well as stick together to just be competitive. Kyrie will leave, one because it's a small market team, two because their list is overrated and three they aren't getting results. Don't forget Bynum is on a 1+1 contract as well...

i think kyrie will leave. the only thing stoping him is lebron coming back and thats purely because that guy has loyalty to his home town. Its tough in these small market teams they just dont have the cash. the nba is slowly turning more and more into the EPL.

as for bynum he isnt the type of guy lebron would want anyway, they wont be able to do it but get rid of bynum and bring in Lebron and a true C and you have a potential championsip team there.

i think lebron will stay with wade and they will go after a true big man to replace bosh.

i think melo lebron teaming up is small chance but yeah my money would be on a new big 3 in Miami.

Lebron Wade and who???
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 09:06:47 PM
So many funny things in that post.

i think kyrie will leave. the only thing stoping him is lebron coming back and thats purely because that guy has loyalty to his home town. Its tough in these small market teams they just dont have the cash. the nba is slowly turning more and more into the EPL.

as for bynum he isnt the type of guy lebron would want anyway, they wont be able to do it but get rid of bynum and bring in Lebron and a true C and you have a potential championsip team there.

i think lebron will stay with wade and they will go after a true big man to replace bosh.

i think melo lebron teaming up is small chance but yeah my money would be on a new big 3 in Miami.

Lebron Wade and who???
It is harder for small market teams but it is nothing like the EPL. Small market teams just have to have better management than the bigger ones. Look at Indiana, Golden State and OKC, three of the best teams are all small market.

I was about to bring up Melo and where he'll go. There is no way he is going to Miami. Miami already have Oden and quality big men are hard to find, and if they do get somebody else I wouldn't really consider it a "big 3". Especially with Wade, ignoring his current form.

I have no idea where Melo will end up. People are saying Lakers and while it is possible I think there is more of a chance coming to Boston, or to a team like Philly or Detroit if they adjust their lineup. I think Boston would definitely be a front runner for Melo though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 09:18:04 PM
Oden is not a quality big man anymore...  But Miami dont exactly have a heap of room to move. Will be very interesting to see what they do though. I cannot see anyway of a Lebron/Melo pairing, and even if there was, I doubt it would work.

Holz, I have an issue with you implying that Bynum isn't a true centre. He is as true as it gets at that position and had a chance to become the most dominant centre since Shaq had he not been affected by injuries.

Q, how do expect Boston to get Melo when we are only just under the luxury tax as it is? Melo to Boston is maybe a 0.001% chance of happening imo. I expect us to rebuild through the draft and in trades rather than signing a big name free agent...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 07, 2013, 09:24:14 PM
Oden is not a quality big man anymore...  But Miami dont exactly have a heap of room to move. Will be very interesting to see what they do though. I cannot see anyway of a Lebron/Melo pairing, and even if there was, I doubt it would work.

Holz, I have an issue with you implying that Bynum isn't a true centre. He is as true as it gets at that position and had a chance to become the most dominant centre since Shaq had he not been affected by injuries.

Q, how do expect Boston to get Melo when we are only just under the luxury tax as it is? Melo to Boston is maybe a 0.001% chance of happening imo. I expect us to rebuild through the draft and in trades rather than signing a big name free agent...

if bynum had no injury issues he would be the best true centre in the league. with his injuries he cant do that, you need a pillar who stands up and crashes the boards makes the big stops and it just a flat track bully. he hasnt got the body to do that anymore.

Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 09:27:25 PM
Well I was reading this forum today and they thought that Boston and Melo would be a good fit for each other. If they were to go after Melo I think we would trade off guys like Bass, Lee, maybe even Jeff Green (I'd hate to give him up) and Wallace, and possibly a first rounder for a Centre or just a good contract. Then they land Melo while still keeping Rondo and having a line-up of Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sully and a centre or whoever they get via trade/lottery. A few teams are interested in Asik seeing as he doesn't really fit the plans in Rockets as well, so he is definitely an option.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 09:49:33 PM
It is interesting Q but I just can't see it happening. Asking myself if I really even want Melo on the Celtics, I'm not too sure... The guy has a terrible post-season record but one could argue that he has never had the support to go all the way? Give him Rondo and maybe all that changes. I'm really liking Bass' season so far but I wouldn't be surprised if he is traded. I think there would be plenty of teams after his services - he plays great D, shoots good shots and has developed some real leadership. There a few huge defensive big guys in the NBA these days and a shooter like Brandon Bass would be really helpful for floor spacing reasons. Celtics dont really need him though due to his age, contract and us already having Sully, Green, Olynyk and Vitor. Lee can go imo he really is an average player, Crawford is the one that intrigues me. Crawf is having an excellent season but whether we use him as our backup PG long-term or trade him while his value is high is the main question, I want to keep him as a backup to Rondo. I can assure you that Ainge has attempted to trade Wallace many times to no avail, that contract is just not worth touching especially seeing as his game just does not back it up. I just hope we dont give up on Jeff Green. Green is being unfairly judged by many at the moment, including me. Majority are expecting him to become an all-star scoring machine whereas his ideal role would being a 3rd option on a team, I really hope that team is the Celtics. We have a ridiculous amount of first rounders and its safe to say we wont use all of them, they are now valuable trading chips. I see you want a centre but that guy would take minutes off our young bigs like Sully, Olynyk and Vitor which is not ideal for a rebuilding team. This is the reason I do not want Asik, he is a good player but does not have the ceiling of any of our young bigs - persist with them!

Oden is not a quality big man anymore...  But Miami dont exactly have a heap of room to move. Will be very interesting to see what they do though. I cannot see anyway of a Lebron/Melo pairing, and even if there was, I doubt it would work.

Holz, I have an issue with you implying that Bynum isn't a true centre. He is as true as it gets at that position and had a chance to become the most dominant centre since Shaq had he not been affected by injuries.

Q, how do expect Boston to get Melo when we are only just under the luxury tax as it is? Melo to Boston is maybe a 0.001% chance of happening imo. I expect us to rebuild through the draft and in trades rather than signing a big name free agent...

if bynum had no injury issues he would be the best true centre in the league. with his injuries he cant do that, you need a pillar who stands up and crashes the boards makes the big stops and it just a flat track bully. he hasnt got the body to do that anymore.
Such a shame that Bynum has been screwed by injuries. His final season with the Lakers was one of the best true centre seasons I had ever seen, really thought he could've ended up as the most dominant centre since Shaq :(
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Master Q on December 07, 2013, 10:00:32 PM
Melo has made it to the WCF and has never missed the playoffs in his career.

If Boston had a defensive centre they would sky rocket in the standings. Sully isn't really big enough to play Centre and his game style doesn't suit it, and while being one of my favourite players Olynk still lacks on defense. Fav is great as well but I'm not sure if he is championship caliber. I think playing for a team like Boston would mean a lot to Melo, instead of just buffing his stat line in the disgrace of a team that is New York. Melo has to go somewhere after all.

I think it is too early to judge Crawford. And I wonder how he'll feel to move to the bench (or will he take Bradley's spot). It's interesting but if I think the opportunity to land a big FA arrises then Crawford will be on the move.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2013, 10:17:26 PM
Melo has made it to the WCF and has never missed the playoffs in his career.

If Boston had a defensive centre they would sky rocket in the standings. Sully isn't really big enough to play Centre and his game style doesn't suit it, and while being one of my favourite players Olynk still lacks on defense. Fav is great as well but I'm not sure if he is championship caliber. I think playing for a team like Boston would mean a lot to Melo, instead of just buffing his stat line in the disgrace of a team that is New York. Melo has to go somewhere after all.

I think it is too early to judge Crawford. And I wonder how he'll feel to move to the bench (or will he take Bradley's spot). It's interesting but if I think the opportunity to land a big FA arrises then Crawford will be on the move.
Melo is 23-42 in playoffs, not exactly a stat you want in your no.1 guy... Not saying he isnt a star in the playoffs though, I'd infact argue that he has never had the necessary support.

Sully does not have the height to play centre, I agree but he is certainly a very strong body inside. Olynyk is an absolute retard on defense and to be honest, I think he should probably be used as trade bait further down the track as he undoubtedly still has good value as an offensive centre. Fav is still very raw but if he refines some things in his game he could become a quality centre in this league. I just dont see how trading for Asik really helps us long-term, would do it if we only had to give up someone like Bass though.

I dont think Crawford should start at SG over Bradley. I love the defensive backcourt that Rondo/Bradley makes and I think Crawford is a PG now too and the shift to SG might take him back to his shot-chucking days.

If Melo cant win with Rondo then he'll go down as a bust considering the talent he has been given.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 08, 2013, 09:39:48 AM
Melo is gunna leave NY & sign with the Lakers.  ;)

Even with Bryant agreeing to a two-year extension worth nearly $49 million, the Lakers have the cap space. Gasol would have to be booted I think...

His never had another superstar on his team to help him out really...
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 08, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
one thing Wall does better than Kyrie is make other players better around him
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 09, 2013, 08:28:05 AM
Knicks got owned by Boston by 41 points at home....  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: kingkingston on December 09, 2013, 08:36:29 AM
wouldn't be surprised if the Knicks look to blow things up
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 09, 2013, 08:59:55 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Celtics beat Knicks by 41 ;D My boys, Crawf and Sully both had over 20!

I am now sure that we'll make the playoffs. 10 wins already.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 09, 2013, 10:19:31 AM
Jesus Christ, the Knicks are an absolute mess  :o
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on December 09, 2013, 11:09:37 AM
RUDY GAY TO THE KINGS!!!

Yeh baby
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Cicjose on December 09, 2013, 11:13:17 AM
Heat 110 - Detroit 95

LeBron James: 24 points
Ray Allen: 18 points
Chris Bosh: 16 points
Roger Mason Jr.: 12 points
Chris Andersen: 10 points
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 09, 2013, 11:13:53 AM
Dunno whether that move by the Raptors will be beneficial...

Greivis Vasquez, John Salmons, Chuck Hayes and Patrick Patterson..


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Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on December 09, 2013, 11:16:28 AM
Toronto are basically giving themselves cap space.  If they can land a free-agent because of this trade then its been worthwhile.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 09, 2013, 11:31:11 AM
No American NBA superstar in their right mind would want to go to Canada.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 09, 2013, 11:33:25 AM
Toronto planning to bring back Bosh?

Gay and Cousins... Not bad Sacremento.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 09, 2013, 11:36:15 AM
The Gay-Cousins combo..... :P
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on December 09, 2013, 11:37:07 AM
Toronto planning to bring back Bosh?

Gay and Cousins... Not bad Sacremento.

There's talk of Bosh being targeted by the Mavs

Dont forget that the kings traded for Derrick Williams last week.  Happy with both those moves.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2013, 11:40:12 AM
Toronto planning to bring back Bosh?

Gay and Cousins... Not bad Sacremento.

as soon as i saw the tradei thought of bosh. really Toronto is a long long way off being a contedner but purely from a marketing angle bosh back there as the number 1 makes sense.

Heat can than target a true big man to team up with Wade James. to bad there is no big man free agent.

Greg Monroe is restricted FA.
Zbo is around but probably too old.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Windigo on December 09, 2013, 11:45:29 AM
Pau Gasol?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: My Chumps on December 09, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
Toronto planning to bring back Bosh?

Gay and Cousins... Not bad Sacremento.

as soon as i saw the tradei thought of bosh. really Toronto is a long long way off being a contedner but purely from a marketing angle bosh back there as the number 1 makes sense.

Heat can than target a true big man to team up with Wade James. to bad there is no big man free agent.

Greg Monroe is restricted FA.
Zbo is around but probably too old.
Monroe might work. I doubt he'll really want to hang around Detroit with Drummond and Smith eating into his gametime.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on December 09, 2013, 11:54:44 AM
Andrew Wiggins
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Mat0369 on December 09, 2013, 11:59:21 AM
So that is two fan bases that have been extremely happy to get rid of Rudy Gay. I wonder how long it will take for the fans in Sactown to turn on him?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Jay on December 09, 2013, 12:19:22 PM
PG: Isiah
SG: Mclemore
SG: Gay
PF: D-Will
C: Cousin

How far can this team go?
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on December 09, 2013, 12:20:37 PM

Heat can than target a true big man to team up with Wade James. to bad there is no big man free agent.

Greg Monroe is restricted FA.
Zbo is around but probably too old.

Omir Asik - He wants out of Houston
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2013, 12:46:31 PM
Toronto planning to bring back Bosh?

Gay and Cousins... Not bad Sacremento.

as soon as i saw the tradei thought of bosh. really Toronto is a long long way off being a contedner but purely from a marketing angle bosh back there as the number 1 makes sense.

Heat can than target a true big man to team up with Wade James. to bad there is no big man free agent.

Greg Monroe is restricted FA.
Zbo is around but probably too old.
Monroe might work. I doubt he'll really want to hang around Detroit with Drummond and Smith eating into his gametime.

not sure how the restricted FA works.

question is does Monroe > Bosh in terms of adding to the heat
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2013, 12:47:08 PM

Heat can than target a true big man to team up with Wade James. to bad there is no big man free agent.

Greg Monroe is restricted FA.
Zbo is around but probably too old.

Omir Asik - He wants out of Houston

not really an elite though.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on December 09, 2013, 12:49:01 PM
PG: Isiah
SG: Mclemore
SG: Gay
PF: D-Will
C: Cousin

How far can this team go?

Plenty of potential there and I dont mind the backup's either

Ray McCallum to back up IT
Jimmer to back up McLemore
Jason Thompson & Aaron Gray to back up DMC, D-Will
Travis Outlaw to backup Rudy Gay

Compared to where we were last year - we are definitely on the right track.
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: valkorum on December 09, 2013, 12:49:44 PM

Heat can than target a true big man to team up with Wade James. to bad there is no big man free agent.

Greg Monroe is restricted FA.
Zbo is around but probably too old.

Omir Asik - He wants out of Houston

not really an elite though.

He could be a double-double kinda guy (pts/rbs)
Title: Re: NBA Season 2013-14
Post by: Holz on December 09, 2013, 12:57:04 PM