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Title: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2013, 08:28:00 AM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/is-hawthorn-superstar-lance-franklin-closing-in-on-his-last-game-for-the-club/story-fni5ezdm-1226721165352

The biggest bit I took out of this article that I did not know was

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That he has made his club sweat on a decision all season suggests he is out of there. Because why wouldnt he have accepted Hawthorns best offer -- estimated to be about $1 million to $1.1 million -- that is believed to be now off the table.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on September 18, 2013, 09:04:40 AM
Heard that this morning... unbelievable!  :o
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Rusty00 on September 18, 2013, 09:18:58 AM
I don't really understand this on-the-table, off-the-table business.

If Franklin came to the club today and said I want to accept your offer now, there is no way the club is going to say "no sorry, that offer is off the table now. Here is a new, lower offer".
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on September 18, 2013, 09:23:18 AM
Wouldnt they? Business wise I reckon they might.

It is strange timing though.

Taking the offer off the table is generally a negotiation tactic. Trying to force his hand, make him feel less confident about himself and the GWS side of things. Do you really want an unfocused Buddy playing over the next two weeks?

Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2013, 09:28:10 AM
I don't really understand this on-the-table, off-the-table business.

If Franklin came to the club today and said I want to accept your offer now, there is no way the club is going to say "no sorry, that offer is off the table now. Here is a new, lower offer".
It's just the way business works.

Agree timing is weird
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Rusty00 on September 18, 2013, 09:32:39 AM
I don't really understand this on-the-table, off-the-table business.

If Franklin came to the club today and said I want to accept your offer now, there is no way the club is going to say "no sorry, that offer is off the table now. Here is a new, lower offer".
It's just the way business works.

Agree timing is weird
Maybe it's because of how well we played in the QF without him. Try and make him think that maybe he is not needed so they have the upper hand in the negotiations with him.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2013, 09:37:32 AM
I don't really understand this on-the-table, off-the-table business.

If Franklin came to the club today and said I want to accept your offer now, there is no way the club is going to say "no sorry, that offer is off the table now. Here is a new, lower offer".
It's just the way business works.

Agree timing is weird
Maybe it's because of how well we played in the QF without him. Try and make him think that maybe he is not needed so they have the upper hand in the negotiations with him.
Very possible. But to be completely honest, who bloody knows what's going on in this negotiation
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on September 18, 2013, 09:55:53 AM
Fairfax Media understands the most recent offer to Franklin was removed at the end of July after the player failed to respond to a club-imposed deadline.

Just read the full article from Carowhine.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2013, 10:07:32 AM
I've been pretty confident that Buddy's not going to re-sign with the Hawks for most of the year, so this article is an interesting one.

Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: dirkdiggler on September 18, 2013, 01:11:10 PM
Heard that this morning... unbelievable!  :o

Hawks made the offer knowing he wouldn't sign it. Tell the media is the biggest deal ever offered to a Hawk, put a deadline on it, take it off the table, and leave Buddy with no real leverage when he sits down with GWS. It makes it less likely that GWS will offer him something he can't refuse...and more likely that he'll stay at Hawks......That being said...I still think he'll go
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2013, 03:32:52 PM
All media build up!

We're just focused on playing footy atm, contracts being put forward and taken back will happen in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: dirkdiggler on September 18, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
All media build up!

We're just focused on playing footy atm, contracts being put forward and taken back will happen in 2 weeks.

should be resolved by Saturday morning then... :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on September 18, 2013, 04:08:18 PM
Will be weird seeing him in a GWS jumper! But that is a very strong forward line for the Giants :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on September 18, 2013, 04:40:51 PM
Will be weird seeing him in a GWS jumper! But that is a very strong forward line for the Giants :P

Here's something to help you get used to it.  :P

(http://www.sportsbet.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/BuddyGWS1.png)
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on September 18, 2013, 04:41:56 PM
looks better in the Hawks colours tbh
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: tbagrocks on September 18, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
What's the bet dickmunger boss Dumbetriou gives the Hawks an undeserving top 5 pick?
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 18, 2013, 04:45:51 PM
What's the bet dickmunger boss Dumbetriou gives the Hawks an undeserving top 5 pick?

And how would losing one of the top 5 players in the afl not be deserving of a top 5 nat pick?

Should get pick 1 and 2 for him but we will just settle for pick 18
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 18, 2013, 04:55:36 PM
In a sense I haven't really cared much about this issue. The club will always be bigger than any individual player.

If he stays then that's great because at his best he can destroy teams. If he leaves then we'll end up with two first round draft picks, a big fat hole in our salary cap and still have a squad proven to be just as capable without him.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Rusty00 on September 18, 2013, 07:35:31 PM
In a sense I haven't really cared much about this issue. The club will always be bigger than any individual player.

If he stays then that's great because at his best he can destroy teams. If he leaves then we'll end up with two first round draft picks, a big fat hole in our salary cap and still have a squad proven to be just as capable without him.
This is exactly how I feel about it as well :)

In the mean time, we've got some football to play.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Hawka on September 19, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
Gone
Gone
Gone
shouldnt be playing tomorrow night
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: McRooster on September 19, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
Bahahahahaha!

Buddy Franklin Parody - When I Was Your Man (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata&v=qNGQIUXXcGw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqNGQIUXXcGw%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata)
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: tbagrocks on September 19, 2013, 07:00:05 PM
What's the bet dickmunger boss Dumbetriou gives the Hawks an undeserving top 5 pick?

And how would losing one of the top 5 players in the afl not be deserving of a top 5 nat pick?

Should get pick 1 and 2 for him but we will just settle for pick 18
Now I hear two picks ::)  So much for creating an even comp eh?
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on September 19, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
Bahahahahaha!

Buddy Franklin Parody - When I Was Your Man (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata&v=qNGQIUXXcGw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqNGQIUXXcGw%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata)

That is absolute flowering gold! ;D
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on September 20, 2013, 08:47:18 AM
Bahahahahaha!

Buddy Franklin Parody - When I Was Your Man (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata&v=qNGQIUXXcGw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqNGQIUXXcGw%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata)
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hahaha good
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ringo on September 20, 2013, 09:12:42 AM
Franklin for Longer + 2nd Round Pick seems reasonable to me.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on September 20, 2013, 09:15:17 AM
Bahahahahaha!

Buddy Franklin Parody - When I Was Your Man (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata&v=qNGQIUXXcGw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqNGQIUXXcGw%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata)

Will Ralston's done it again! Simply brilliant!  8)
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on September 20, 2013, 09:34:36 AM
Franklin for Longer + 2nd Round Pick seems reasonable to me.

Hawks have offered 1.1mil. He will only leave if gws offer substantially more,  Brisbane csnt offer that much so wht would he go?
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: My Chumps on September 20, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Hawthorn are better without Buddy as stupid as that sounds.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: dirkdiggler on September 20, 2013, 04:44:31 PM
Hawthorn are better without Buddy as stupid as that sounds.
That
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Cicjose on September 20, 2013, 09:31:07 PM
will stay if they win flag
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Rusty00 on September 23, 2013, 11:18:48 AM
will stay if they win flag
I actually thought he'd be more likely to leave with a second Premiership medal. I guess we'll find out soon enough ;)
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on September 23, 2013, 11:55:21 AM
will stay if they win flag
I actually thought he'd be more likely to leave with a second Premiership medal. I guess we'll find out soon enough ;)

^ that's what I was going to say.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on September 23, 2013, 12:01:42 PM
Yeah if they win the flag, you would expect him to go. He would have two premiership medals, a Coleman and 12 million dollars.

Does he want anything else? ;)
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: nrich102 on September 23, 2013, 01:25:19 PM
Yeah if they win the flag, you would expect him to go. He would have two premiership medals, a Coleman and 12 million dollars.

Does he want anything else? ;)
A Brownlow, Norm Smith and Rising Star award :o
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mr.Craig on September 30, 2013, 11:18:44 AM
No word yet....

#buddywatch
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on September 30, 2013, 11:22:56 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-holUR8B_NY0/Ty20mXAqk7I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/5hMB87oqxk4/s640/suspiciously-evil-sloth-meme-generator-soon-my-friend-soon-0f10da.jpg)

#buddywatch
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2013, 11:19:41 AM
GWS Giants ‏@GWS_Giants 5m
The GIANTS have withdrawn their offer to Buddy Franklin based on advice that he will accept an offer from the Swans.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on October 01, 2013, 11:20:26 AM
GWS Giants ‏@GWS_Giants 5m
The GIANTS have withdrawn their offer to Buddy Franklin based on advice that he will accept an offer from the Swans.


GWS have removed the offer, based on info that the Swans are his preferred destination

WOO Hoo!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2013, 11:23:07 AM
Brendan Fevola ‏@BrendanFevola25 1m
Sydney might have the most expensive forward line in history!!

haha
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2013, 11:25:04 AM
This is nuts.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2013, 11:25:34 AM
Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 48s
We're hearing Mumford and a trade will be involved in the Buddy move to the Swans
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2013, 11:27:03 AM
I'm listening intently...

Mummy a Hawk and both Roughy and Hale now perma-forwards.

Billy Longer to the Hawks now in limbo?

Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 11:28:58 AM
I have no idea how I feel about this.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2013, 11:30:29 AM
I have no idea how I feel about this.

All the Giants forwards you love should stay now.  :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 11:33:39 AM
I have no idea how I feel about this.

All the Giants forwards you love should stay now.  :P
Well that's a plus :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 01, 2013, 12:54:33 PM
Joshua Kay ‏@js_kay 28m

Last time a @HawthornFC number 23 rockstar joined @sydneyswans he played a total of 7 games & got suspended for a total of 14
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
Would have respected buddy going to the giants, but swans??? cow can eat a dick!
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on October 01, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
Joshua Kay ‏@js_kay 28m

Last time a @HawthornFC number 23 rockstar joined @sydneyswans he played a total of 7 games & got suspended for a total of 14

LOL - yeah that was a bust!
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Cicjose on October 01, 2013, 01:23:12 PM
Brereton LOL
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on October 01, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
Would have respected buddy going to the giants, but swans??? cow can eat a dick!

Hahaha you tell em J.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 01, 2013, 02:37:16 PM
Shane Crawford ‏@SCrawf9 2m

Hawthorns offer to big bud was bigger then both GWS and Sydney what more could they do? #hewants2liveinsydney #freedom #istillovehim
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: henry on October 01, 2013, 02:44:17 PM
Would have respected buddy going to the giants, but swans??? cow can eat a dick!
Same.. do not understand at all a few things about this move.

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.

Brown is a rookie that didn't play a game, would be on hardly any money whatsoever. White was a fringe player until this season, so wouldn't be on much either. Bolton would be on a fair amount, but he's a veteran so a considerable amount of that doesn't go under the cap. Mumford would be on a fair bit, granted. Matner and Morton would be on average amounts.

How the hell can they afford 1.4million a year on 1 player if they spent big money on another player last year.

Say whatever you want about the salary cap, but a system that allows a team who won a premiership top up their list with the 2 highest paid forwards in the game in the next 2 years without all that much leaving as yet is ridiculous and clearly not doing its desired job.

2) Why do sydney want him?
Reid, Pyke, Mumford, White, Tippett, Franklin and probably a couple of other lesser names are in their squad which play key forward roles.  Even if Mumford and White leave as expected, that's still a surplus. Why would they spend so much money on a player who will not improve their list that much??

3) Why did buddy choose them?

It was commonly speculated and logically assumed that the reason Buddy would be leaving is money. Why then would he choose to go to sydney, where he earns $600k a year less than GWS? Is it because they are a better premiership chance? Well I think Hawthorn are clearly a stronger chance for next years premiership than Sydney, perhaps more so that buddy has left now lol.  It's not like he hasn't got mates at the hawks, and I can't see him fitting into sydneys team focused culture well at all. I could understand him going to gwsI am struggling to understand why he would leave to sydney.

I am disappointed that he's left, although I don't believe those who think we are a better team without him (when he's at full fitness unlike he was for the majority of the year) I don't think he will adversely effect us too much, providing we can pick up someone decent like mumford in this trade period. I can't really begrudge him leaving after giving us 2 premierships and 8 years service, I am just disappointed and can't understand how or why he can go to sydney.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2013, 02:51:07 PM
This is actually pretty sad.  :(

Shane Crawford ‏@SCrawf9 4m

I just told my son buddy's not playing for hawks anymore #lotsoftears #holyshower
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2013, 02:52:42 PM
Would have respected buddy going to the giants, but swans??? cow can eat a dick!
Same.. do not understand at all a few things about this move.

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.

Brown is a rookie that didn't play a game, would be on hardly any money whatsoever. White was a fringe player until this season, so wouldn't be on much either. Bolton would be on a fair amount, but he's a veteran so a considerable amount of that doesn't go under the cap. Mumford would be on a fair bit, granted. Matner and Morton would be on average amounts.

How the hell can they afford 1.4million a year on 1 player if they spent big money on another player last year.

Say whatever you want about the salary cap, but a system that allows a team who won a premiership top up their list with the 2 highest paid forwards in the game in the next 2 years without all that much leaving as yet is ridiculous and clearly not doing its desired job.

2) Why do sydney want him?
Reid, Pyke, Mumford, White, Tippett, Franklin and probably a couple of other lesser names are in their squad which play key forward roles.  Even if Mumford and White leave as expected, that's still a surplus. Why would they spend so much money on a player who will not improve their list that much??

3) Why did buddy choose them?

It was commonly speculated and logically assumed that the reason Buddy would be leaving is money. Why then would he choose to go to sydney, where he earns $600k a year less than GWS? Is it because they are a better premiership chance? Well I think Hawthorn are clearly a stronger chance for next years premiership than Sydney, perhaps more so that buddy has left now lol.  It's not like he hasn't got mates at the hawks, and I can't see him fitting into sydneys team focused culture well at all. I could understand him going to gwsI am struggling to understand why he would leave to sydney.

I am disappointed that he's left, although I don't believe those who think we are a better team without him (when he's at full fitness unlike he was for the majority of the year) I don't think he will adversely effect us too much, providing we can pick up someone decent like mumford in this trade period. I can't really begrudge him leaving after giving us 2 premierships and 8 years service, I am just disappointed and can't understand how or why he can go to sydney.

1) I dunno either mate. But this was posted earlier in the day.

Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 1m
This is what @craighutchy said on @FootyClassified last Monday re Buddy to the @sydneyswans #TradeDebate pic.twitter.com/I8PEAB25OW

(http://i43.tinypic.com/9tgvtj.jpg)

2) No flowering idea why they need him, unless there is something else already in motion :o

3) Stated somewhere else before, have it from a very good source the Buddy hates the limelight outside of footy and the constant attention that affects his personal life. Loves the fact he'll be able to walk down Sydney's streets and not be hassled as much as Melbourne. It is a major factor in this move. The money is similar at both GWS and Sydney, so then it comes down to premierships i guess. He has a greater chance of winning another at Sydney
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on October 01, 2013, 03:00:03 PM
Yeah, it has been said that him wanting to be out of the limelight means a lot to him, he hates having all the attention that he gets here.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: henry on October 01, 2013, 03:06:07 PM

1) I dunno either mate. But this was posted earlier in the day.

Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 1m
This is what @craighutchy said on @FootyClassified last Monday re Buddy to the @sydneyswans #TradeDebate pic.twitter.com/I8PEAB25OW

(http://i43.tinypic.com/9tgvtj.jpg)

2) No flowering idea why they need him, unless there is something else already in motion :o

3) Stated somewhere else before, have it from a very good source the Buddy hates the limelight outside of footy and the constant attention that affects his personal life. Loves the fact he'll be able to walk down Sydney's streets and not be hassled as much as Melbourne. It is a major factor in this move. The money is similar at both GWS and Sydney, so then it comes down to premierships i guess. He has a greater chance of winning another at Sydney

The limelight thing makes sense, but surely when you're a big a name as buddy franklin you'll be recognised wherever you go. The money is not at all similar, 1.4mill for sydney compared to 2 mill for gws. 600k each year!

That photo doesn't make sense either really, reid hasn't left and is contracted until 2017 or something I hear. Cheers for trying to clear it up, not sure anyone will be able to lol.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 03:07:49 PM
Hes Buddy, hes still getting the attention in Sydney. Especially if he gets any ambassadorial role, he will be on every AFL advert in Sydney.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mr.Craig on October 01, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
Buddy loved the attention. He only hated it when he acted like a goose and the media got on his back.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2013, 03:10:30 PM

1) I dunno either mate. But this was posted earlier in the day.

Trade Radio ‏@traderadio 1m
This is what @craighutchy said on @FootyClassified last Monday re Buddy to the @sydneyswans #TradeDebate pic.twitter.com/I8PEAB25OW

(http://i43.tinypic.com/9tgvtj.jpg)

2) No flowering idea why they need him, unless there is something else already in motion :o

3) Stated somewhere else before, have it from a very good source the Buddy hates the limelight outside of footy and the constant attention that affects his personal life. Loves the fact he'll be able to walk down Sydney's streets and not be hassled as much as Melbourne. It is a major factor in this move. The money is similar at both GWS and Sydney, so then it comes down to premierships i guess. He has a greater chance of winning another at Sydney

The limelight thing makes sense, but surely when you're a big a name as buddy franklin you'll be recognised wherever you go. The money is not at all similar, 1.4mill for sydney compared to 2 mill for gws. 600k each year!

That photo doesn't make sense either really, reid hasn't left and is contracted until 2017 or something I hear. Cheers for trying to clear it up, not sure anyone will be able to lol.
Yeh not sure mate, just what I've been told. From my understanding it is quieter for him in Sydney.

GWS's offer was 1.2 over 6 years
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 01, 2013, 03:11:48 PM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on October 01, 2013, 03:15:23 PM

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.


Its also about how they structure the deal. Front end. Back end as well. Goodes, ROK and Richards all on good deals leaving before both Tippett and Buddys deals expire.


2) Why do sydney want him?
Reid, Pyke, Mumford, White, Tippett, Franklin and probably a couple of other lesser names are in their squad which play key forward roles.  Even if Mumford and White leave as expected, that's still a surplus. Why would they spend so much money on a player who will not improve their list that much??


Mummy and White have been gone for a while. So Sydneys need to upgrade the fwd line makes sense


3) Why did buddy choose them?

It was commonly speculated and logically assumed that the reason Buddy would be leaving is money.

Obviously not his #1 motivation.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 01, 2013, 03:15:56 PM
This is basically the same situation as Tippett.

You'll give him his 2 months worth of shower, but when the footy season starts you'll leave him be.

Just respect that he wants to leave the club, and focus on actually playing football. No doubt that's what both Sydney, Hawthorn and Franklin want.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on October 01, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
apparently a 9 year contract...


for a 26 year old, fair enough.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Rusty00 on October 01, 2013, 03:40:13 PM
apparently a 9 year contract...


for a 26 year old, fair enough.
No way he'll play out that contract so they'll be paying him after he's retired. Presumably there doing it this way so they can spread the money out thinner each year.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 04:13:46 PM

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.


Its also about how they structure the deal. Front end. Back end as well. Goodes, ROK and Richards all on good deals leaving before both Tippett and Buddys deals expire.
Morton leaving too. These are my very rough estimates for salaries of leaving players:
Mumford 450k
Bolton 350k
Mattner 250k
White 250k
Morton 200k
Brown 150k


Also, for everyone else:
the extra 9% in fact is spread across the entire playing list. It is not just set aside to throw at big name players. Bolton, Mattner, Morton, Mumford & White possibly all gone, there's the cap space to throw at Buddy right there. If GWS, who also get the same COLA, had of secured Buddy, no one would have said anything about it, but as soon as a winning team do it, it's not right. Having said that, I'd like to see the COLA cut so people can get a bit more inventive with finding something to cry about.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 01, 2013, 04:16:22 PM

1) How sydney can afford it at all, having poached tippett last year.
The common response to this on social media has been that a lot of players are leaving. Ok, let's have a look. Swans that have left the club are are likely to this offseason: Mumford, White, Bolton, Matner, Brown.


Its also about how they structure the deal. Front end. Back end as well. Goodes, ROK and Richards all on good deals leaving before both Tippett and Buddys deals expire.
Morton leaving too. These are my very rough estimates for salaries of leaving players:
Mumford 450k
Bolton 350k
Mattner 250k
White 250k
Morton 200k
Brown 150k


Also, for everyone else:
the extra 9% in fact is spread across the entire playing list. It is not just set aside to throw at big name players. Bolton, Mattner, Morton, Mumford & White possibly all gone, there's the cap space to throw at Buddy right there. If GWS, who also get the same COLA, had of secured Buddy, no one would have said anything about it, but as soon as a winning team do it, it's not right. Having said that, I'd like to see the COLA cut so people can get a bit more inventive with finding something to cry about.

lol well said
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: TeeJay on October 01, 2013, 04:19:47 PM
Sydney supporters are the only poeple in the country that think this is all fair and well LOL its complete and utter BS and thats coming from a Geelong supporter that hates Hawthorn.

And Chumps I think your figures are a little off!
You reckon Morton was getting 200k a season? lol for what? Carrying the players bags? He would have been on 100 if he was lucky.
Brown would have been on less than 100 and Mummy about 350
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 04:31:07 PM
Yeah alright, Morton and Brown were a bit excessive but I'm pretty confident about Mumford's 450k. And that still adds up to more than 1.4 mill.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 04:32:45 PM
You still need to fill list with atleast 5 other players, even if they are base waged, thats still 500k.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on October 01, 2013, 04:39:34 PM
the deal doesnt have to be even either? for all we know the last year of mummy deal could have been $600k

and years 1 -3 of buddys could be $800k
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: henry on October 01, 2013, 08:34:47 PM
the deal doesnt have to be even either? for all we know the last year of mummy deal could have been $600k

and years 1 -3 of buddys could be $800k
Can't see buddy earning under a mil in his first couple of years if he's agreed to it, would have to be front loaded somewhat. Could be right about mummy though.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on October 01, 2013, 09:02:41 PM
it's a 9 year contract... any player with half a brain would take that, even if hypothetically he wasnt earning as much as we thought he would be.


And I dont have an issue with the cost of living payments, however, as someone pointed out in another post (mightn't have been this topic), they should probably be capped after like 500k or something, and then anything left over spread over the players evenly.

Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on October 01, 2013, 11:44:57 PM
the deal doesnt have to be even either? for all we know the last year of mummy deal could have been $600k

and years 1 -3 of buddys could be $800k
Can't see buddy earning under a mil in his first couple of years if he's agreed to it, would have to be front loaded somewhat. Could be right about mummy though.

if the story is right 10 mil over 9 years means he could easily earn unders for a few years. not sure but $800k is prob what he is on now on a little more?

all about clever accounting.....

Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: henry on October 02, 2013, 08:00:53 AM
the deal doesnt have to be even either? for all we know the last year of mummy deal could have been $600k

and years 1 -3 of buddys could be $800k
Can't see buddy earning under a mil in his first couple of years if he's agreed to it, would have to be front loaded somewhat. Could be right about mummy though.

if the story is right 10 mil over 9 years means he could easily earn unders for a few years. not sure but $800k is prob what he is on now on a little more?

all about clever accounting.....
Yeah I guess if he's earning 10 mill in the long doesn;t matter too much how it is staggered. I think he probably would be on around 800k now, maybe a little more.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: tor01doc on October 02, 2013, 08:04:59 AM
Hope he meets some really cool drug dealers.   8)

PS Thanks for the memories.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
What about from Buddy's side... With the natural change in value of money, what if in 4-5 years time he is worth 2million a year. He could have sold himself cheaply. Although he will be 30+

20 years ago Lynch signed a 10 year contract for something like 1.5million total
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 02, 2013, 10:55:06 AM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Franklin-motivated-by-desire-to-leave-Melbourne-Ireland/61979

Lance Franklins impending move to Sydney is motivated out of a desire to leave the "fishbowl" environment of Melbourne according to Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: henry on October 02, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Franklin-motivated-by-desire-to-leave-Melbourne-Ireland/61979

Lance Franklins impending move to Sydney is motivated out of a desire to leave the "fishbowl" environment of Melbourne according to Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland.
So let's go and buy a house in Bondi, will hardly be noticed there lol  ::). He's bound to be recognised wherever he goes, just a fact of being a high profile footballer. Oh well, good luck in the future bud except when you play us I hope Lake towels you up.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on October 02, 2013, 06:40:47 PM
I really don't want to see him play for the Swans. Would have been fine and happy for GWS but the Swans?! :(
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2013, 07:02:52 PM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Franklin-motivated-by-desire-to-leave-Melbourne-Ireland/61979

Lance Franklins impending move to Sydney is motivated out of a desire to leave the "fishbowl" environment of Melbourne according to Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland.
So let's go and buy a house in Bondi, will hardly be noticed there lol  ::). He's bound to be recognised wherever he goes, just a fact of being a high profile footballer. Oh well, good luck in the future bud except when you play us I hope Lake towels you up.

I don't think you've actually been to Sydney before.

No one will notice him really. Anything he does will be stuck in middle of the paper and he'll get 50x less attention.

Sporting fans in Sydney: 80% NRL, 10% Rugby union, 10% AFL
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nige on October 02, 2013, 07:12:04 PM
Sporting fans in Sydney: 80% NRL, 10% Rugby union, 10% AFL

From the several times I've gone to Sydney, this is accurate.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: roo boys! on October 02, 2013, 07:21:57 PM
I love how casually everyone just talks about these figures of $1.4/$2 million whatever it may be.

Anything over I dunno $500k is just stupid amounts of money to be talking about for a sportsman, good on them they've really done well with themselves and I love that we invest so much into our stars.

But surely he'll survive perfectly well on $1.1 million compared to $1.4 or whatever it was, clearly the fishbowl effect is what got him out.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2013, 07:54:40 PM
I love how casually everyone just talks about these figures of $1.4/$2 million whatever it may be.

Anything over I dunno $500k is just stupid amounts of money to be talking about for a sportsman, good on them they've really done well with themselves and I love that we invest so much into our stars.

But surely he'll survive perfectly well on $1.1 million compared to $1.4 or whatever it was, clearly the fishbowl effect is what got him out.

Meanwhile soccer...
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on October 02, 2013, 08:28:29 PM
I love how casually everyone just talks about these figures of $1.4/$2 million whatever it may be.

Anything over I dunno $500k is just stupid amounts of money to be talking about for a sportsman, good on them they've really done well with themselves and I love that we invest so much into our stars.

But surely he'll survive perfectly well on $1.1 million compared to $1.4 or whatever it was, clearly the fishbowl effect is what got him out.

Meanwhile soccer...

:P

Sep 2, 2013 - The Gareth Bale saga is over, with the Spurs midfielder signing for Real Madrid for a reported fee of $149.4 million per season.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Bones Bombers on October 02, 2013, 08:38:53 PM
How does the veterans payments work? Will they be able to put a % of Buddy's payment on that at a certain age? This contract could ruin the Swans if they're not careful. They must have something planned.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2013, 08:43:10 PM
Pretty sure veteran is 100k per veteran
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on October 02, 2013, 09:02:44 PM
Pretty sure veteran is 100k per veteran

veteran has half their salary not count to cap...

even so, veteran is 10 years with the club isnt it?
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2013, 09:05:46 PM
Pretty sure veteran is 100k per veteran

veteran has half their salary not count to cap...

even so, veteran is 10 years with the club isnt it?

Thought it changed in the last year or two?
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on October 02, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
Pretty sure veteran is 100k per veteran

veteran has half their salary not count to cap...

even so, veteran is 10 years with the club isnt it?

Thought it changed in the last year or two?

'A club cannot operate under both rules at once and when a club has changed to the new Veterans
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 02, 2013, 10:00:29 PM
only veterans before 2011 can be applicable to the over 30 rule, Franklin would have to go under the 10 year one
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on October 03, 2013, 08:35:05 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/veteran-players

I'm a little confused...

the way it looks to me is that so long as your veterans contracts are staggered, you can always stay under the old veterans rule...
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: henry on October 03, 2013, 09:23:42 AM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Franklin-motivated-by-desire-to-leave-Melbourne-Ireland/61979

Lance Franklins impending move to Sydney is motivated out of a desire to leave the "fishbowl" environment of Melbourne according to Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland.
So let's go and buy a house in Bondi, will hardly be noticed there lol  ::). He's bound to be recognised wherever he goes, just a fact of being a high profile footballer. Oh well, good luck in the future bud except when you play us I hope Lake towels you up.

I don't think you've actually been to Sydney before.

No one will notice him really. Anything he does will be stuck in middle of the paper and he'll get 50x less attention.

Sporting fans in Sydney: 80% NRL, 10% Rugby union, 10% AFL

Yeah I know mate but especially  now this is big news people will recognise buddy even if they don't follow the sport, his appearance stands out a lot. I don't follow NRL at all yet I could still recognise some of the biggest stars of the game, the same will happen for buddy. Maybe he won't be recognised as much, but when you've got as big a profile as him it's just a fact that everyone will know you.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: roo boys! on October 03, 2013, 09:26:28 AM
I love how casually everyone just talks about these figures of $1.4/$2 million whatever it may be.

Anything over I dunno $500k is just stupid amounts of money to be talking about for a sportsman, good on them they've really done well with themselves and I love that we invest so much into our stars.

But surely he'll survive perfectly well on $1.1 million compared to $1.4 or whatever it was, clearly the fishbowl effect is what got him out.

Meanwhile soccer...

:P

Sep 2, 2013 - The Gareth Bale saga is over, with the Spurs midfielder signing for Real Madrid for a reported fee of $149.4 million per season.
:o :o :o

What....
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2013, 09:27:37 AM
Just showing how much soccer players get paid and yes it is legit :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: roo boys! on October 03, 2013, 09:28:36 AM
Just showing how much soccer players get paid and yes it is legit :P
I wasn't doubting you haha that's just bloody ridiculous! It's not even a sport! ;)
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Franklin-motivated-by-desire-to-leave-Melbourne-Ireland/61979

Lance Franklins impending move to Sydney is motivated out of a desire to leave the "fishbowl" environment of Melbourne according to Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland.
So let's go and buy a house in Bondi, will hardly be noticed there lol  ::). He's bound to be recognised wherever he goes, just a fact of being a high profile footballer. Oh well, good luck in the future bud except when you play us I hope Lake towels you up.

I don't think you've actually been to Sydney before.

No one will notice him really. Anything he does will be stuck in middle of the paper and he'll get 50x less attention.

Sporting fans in Sydney: 80% NRL, 10% Rugby union, 10% AFL

Yeah I know mate but especially  now this is big news people will recognise buddy even if they don't follow the sport, his appearance stands out a lot. I don't follow NRL at all yet I could still recognise some of the biggest stars of the game, the same will happen for buddy. Maybe he won't be recognised as much, but when you've got as big a profile as him it's just a fact that everyone will know you.
Yeh but its not that he won't get recognised, because obviously he will. But its no where near the level to which he gets hassled in Melbourne
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2013, 09:32:40 AM
Just showing how much soccer players get paid and yes it is legit :P
I wasn't doubting you haha that's just bloody ridiculous! It's not even a sport! ;)

Hahaha :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on October 03, 2013, 10:02:59 AM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Franklin-motivated-by-desire-to-leave-Melbourne-Ireland/61979

Lance Franklins impending move to Sydney is motivated out of a desire to leave the "fishbowl" environment of Melbourne according to Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland.
So let's go and buy a house in Bondi, will hardly be noticed there lol  ::). He's bound to be recognised wherever he goes, just a fact of being a high profile footballer. Oh well, good luck in the future bud except when you play us I hope Lake towels you up.

I don't think you've actually been to Sydney before.

No one will notice him really. Anything he does will be stuck in middle of the paper and he'll get 50x less attention.

Sporting fans in Sydney: 80% NRL, 10% Rugby union, 10% AFL

Yeah I know mate but especially  now this is big news people will recognise buddy even if they don't follow the sport, his appearance stands out a lot. I don't follow NRL at all yet I could still recognise some of the biggest stars of the game, the same will happen for buddy. Maybe he won't be recognised as much, but when you've got as big a profile as him it's just a fact that everyone will know you.

I live in the sydney region, and I wouldn't recognise pretty much any NRL players :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: CrowsFan on October 03, 2013, 10:09:28 AM
Just showing how much soccer players get paid and yes it is legit :P
I wasn't doubting you haha that's just bloody ridiculous! It's not even a sport! ;)
GTFO :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 03, 2013, 10:15:20 AM
Attention on game day and official footy business is not the same as being hassled when at the shops or walking dow the street.

Believe it or not fellas but it is a major factor in this move.

http://www.sen.com.au/display-article-2013/Franklin-motivated-by-desire-to-leave-Melbourne-Ireland/61979

Lance Franklins impending move to Sydney is motivated out of a desire to leave the "fishbowl" environment of Melbourne according to Swans chief executive Andrew Ireland.
So let's go and buy a house in Bondi, will hardly be noticed there lol  ::). He's bound to be recognised wherever he goes, just a fact of being a high profile footballer. Oh well, good luck in the future bud except when you play us I hope Lake towels you up.

I don't think you've actually been to Sydney before.

No one will notice him really. Anything he does will be stuck in middle of the paper and he'll get 50x less attention.

Sporting fans in Sydney: 80% NRL, 10% Rugby union, 10% AFL

Yeah I know mate but especially  now this is big news people will recognise buddy even if they don't follow the sport, his appearance stands out a lot. I don't follow NRL at all yet I could still recognise some of the biggest stars of the game, the same will happen for buddy. Maybe he won't be recognised as much, but when you've got as big a profile as him it's just a fact that everyone will know you.

Believe me this is not particularly big news in Sydney.

When the 9 year deal came out. Sports paper next day had first 6 pages of some NRL bullshower and then 3 pages of union and then 2 pages on Buddy after all that.

In NSW he's not going to be noticed
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2013, 12:57:42 PM
from ‏@traderadio

Pickering: I think you can go back earlier (to when Sydney thoughts started) after the car crash and that sort of thing

He (Buddy) got a little bit over Melbourne with media outside his house. He couldn't stay at home for two or three weeks

That was when he initially thought maybe the Melbourne bubble's not for me.
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on October 03, 2013, 01:04:58 PM
from ‏@traderadio

Pickering: I think you can go back earlier (to when Sydney thoughts started) after the car crash and that sort of thing

He (Buddy) got a little bit over Melbourne with media outside his house. He couldn't stay at home for two or three weeks

That was when he initially thought maybe the Melbourne bubble's not for me.

Gonna get paid less in the next 2 years than he is now....
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2013, 01:09:18 PM
It was always about moving out of Melbourne


Pickering: "As soon as the GF finished, I asked: Has anything changed? Buddy: "No, I want to live in Sydney".
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2013, 01:32:44 PM
Fair enough but it's not like he will go under the radar in Sydney :P
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ricochet on October 03, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
Its not about completely flying under the radar. Its about not having reporters camped outside your house or being hassled in the street all the time
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Vinny on October 03, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
Yeah that is true! Plus he gets to have another go at a flag, maybe even a couple :)
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: quinny88 on October 03, 2013, 11:04:55 PM
Buddy is probably one of the most recognised sportsman in the country full stop. Weather he's in Melbourne or Darwin, everyone knows who he is. He won't cop the hassle he does down here but if he thinks he will be able to wander down the street without anyone noticing him then he has another thing coming. Mark McVeigh reported on SEN that it was huge news even in Sydney, bigger than when plugger went there.
Buddy's other down fall is that he is apparently moving over with some mates of his that play rugby and are moving to Sydney clubs (no idea who. I don't know anything about rugby) and they are huge names that attract a lot of attention. The attention he is going to avoid will be marginally less than it is in Melbourne.

As far as the staggering of money, there is no way on earth he is going to be getting less now while he is in the prime of his career and then more later on when he is washed up. He will be getting top dollar as of day 1 or he wouldn't have made the move. He may even get a lot more now and staggered down over the later years of the contract. There not gonna be paying an old bloke 1.2 mill a year or something.

Gonna be interesting to see how this all pans out. It's a massive investment from Sydney, they would want to win atleast 1 flag in the next 3 years. For Hawthorn it means little. They lose a star but they got their money's worth out of him. 2 premierships, 2 Coleman medals, how ever many all Australians, a highlights package to last a lifetime, oh and they can always smile knowing they got him instead of tambling :(
They also know full well that they play just as well, if not better without him.

Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Cicjose on October 03, 2013, 11:47:59 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-03/pickering-opens-up-on-buddy

there is going to be a lot more scrutiny on him now that Sydney have a gun forward line

every single week they will expect Sydney to win
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: T Dog on October 04, 2013, 09:02:29 AM
a lot more sides will be praying for rain when playing in Sydney next year..lol... ;D
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 04, 2013, 09:18:54 AM
a lot more sides will be praying for rain when playing in Sydney next year..lol... ;D

I don't think many clubs have won in Sydney when its raining :P although understand your point :D


Living with NRL stars (if you can call them that) is likely to make him even less noticed.

If Franklin walks down the street with even a slightly well known NRL player, Buddy isn't the one who's going to be the one being swamped.

About 60% of my sporting friends are NRL fans, and the only AFL player they can name at all is Barry Hall. And that was only after 4 years of him breaking people's jaws.


This is not Victoria. 80% of the population in Sydney will not recognise Franklin at all
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: tbagrocks on October 05, 2013, 08:43:51 PM
a lot more sides will be praying for rain when playing in Sydney next year..lol... ;D

I don't think many clubs have won in Sydney when its raining :P although understand your point :D


Living with NRL stars (if you can call them that) is likely to make him even less noticed.

If Franklin walks down the street with even a slightly well known NRL player, Buddy isn't the one who's going to be the one being swamped.

About 60% of my sporting friends are NRL fans, and the only AFL player they can name at all is Barry Hall. And that was only after 4 years of him breaking people's jaws.


This is not Victoria. 80% of the population in Sydney will not recognise Franklin at all
It was a warm September in 1998, Peter Vardy had his foot numbed and kicked 7, the rain was ai it's best, Semi Final Swans v Crows

Like a centimetre of rain covered the SCG, most amount of water I've seen for a pro game, Crows belted the Swans :D
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: SydneyRox on October 05, 2013, 08:46:35 PM
a lot more sides will be praying for rain when playing in Sydney next year..lol... ;D

I don't think many clubs have won in Sydney when its raining :P although understand your point :D


Living with NRL stars (if you can call them that) is likely to make him even less noticed.

If Franklin walks down the street with even a slightly well known NRL player, Buddy isn't the one who's going to be the one being swamped.

About 60% of my sporting friends are NRL fans, and the only AFL player they can name at all is Barry Hall. And that was only after 4 years of him breaking people's jaws.


This is not Victoria. 80% of the population in Sydney will not recognise Franklin at all
It was a warm September in 1998, Peter Vardy had his foot numbed and kicked 7, the rain was ai it's best, Semi Final Swans v Crows

Like a centimetre of rain covered the SCG, most amount of water I've seen for a pro game, Crows belted the Swans :D

looking fwd to crows v swans next year?

Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Ziplock on October 05, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
haha, having to go back 15 years...
Title: Re: Is Hawthorn superstar Lance Franklin closing in on his last game for the club?
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 05, 2013, 08:49:43 PM
a lot more sides will be praying for rain when playing in Sydney next year..lol... ;D

I don't think many clubs have won in Sydney when its raining :P although understand your point :D


Living with NRL stars (if you can call them that) is likely to make him even less noticed.

If Franklin walks down the street with even a slightly well known NRL player, Buddy isn't the one who's going to be the one being swamped.

About 60% of my sporting friends are NRL fans, and the only AFL player they can name at all is Barry Hall. And that was only after 4 years of him breaking people's jaws.


This is not Victoria. 80% of the population in Sydney will not recognise Franklin at all
It was a warm September in 1998, Peter Vardy had his foot numbed and kicked 7, the rain was ai it's best, Semi Final Swans v Crows

Like a centimetre of rain covered the SCG, most amount of water I've seen for a pro game, Crows belted the Swans :D

The fact that you went back 15 years probably proves my point