British XV's - 2015 Discussion Thread

[LF]

We had Matty James from Footy Prophet on our podcast last week and were discussing the guys who should have had DPP allocated. I dont mind either way tbh but I am totally against any positions that are added in the season being allowed.

Yep

[Spite]

Why can't we keep it the same as CD? If you have Griffin, just play him as a mid and not a defender. It is literally that easy. No player is given a position that he can't play in CD so we should keep it as it has always been and stick to CD positions.

[Ringo]

Issue is we are using UF to do draw and allow you you to pick teams each week and load into UF as per decision reached.  That is why I said for simplicity to match their initial DPP and lock at Round 1 which we can do. I am using as much of the features available in UF to make my job as administrator as simple as possible after spending nearly 8hrs a week last year updating scores etc. 

[Ricochet]

Issue is we are using UF to do draw and allow you you to pick teams each week and load into UF as per decision reached.  That is why I said for simplicity to match their initial DPP and lock at Round 1 which we can do. I am using as much of the features available in UF to make my job as administrator as simple as possible after spending nearly 8hrs a week last year updating scores etc.

Is there an option in UF to use CD possies?

Just seems silly that someone like Goddard can get def status

[Spite]

Issue is we are using UF to do draw and allow you you to pick teams each week and load into UF as per decision reached.  That is why I said for simplicity to match their initial DPP and lock at Round 1 which we can do. I am using as much of the features available in UF to make my job as administrator as simple as possible after spending nearly 8hrs a week last year updating scores etc.

You don't need to check it Ringo.

Someone with Goddard knows his position in CD. So he will play him as a mid and not a defender. There are 13 extra DPPs, people don't have different positions, they have added position and so they can still play them in their original CD position. You don't have to do anything extra at all, just trust people don't play people out of their CD position and screw something up.

You can even post the differences here and people will just know if they have those players, play them in their CD original positions. People with Goddard and Griffin won't "accidentally" play them as a defender. They know they're mid only.

[Pkbaldy]

Why can't we keep it the same as CD? If you have Griffin, just play him as a mid and not a defender. It is literally that easy. No player is given a position that he can't play in CD so we should keep it as it has always been and stick to CD positions.

CD's reasoning to positions this year was completely retarded. They based positions and DPP based on where they were NAMED before the match. Not roles that they actually played. Griffen missed out on DEF status because he was named in the backline 33% of the time, but had to be named 35% of the time to be given DEF status. Then if you look at his heat map, it's about 50% of his disposal was in the back 50. And about 75% in the back half.

So CD isn't that great to follow.

[Ringo]

Do not think you realise with going UF and customising we get to use their scoring systems and saves me a great deal of work as I will explain.

1) You will be lodging your team each week in UF and no need to lodge in thread.  Any penalties involved will be done off line.
2) we will be using a UF draft which I will load so each franchise has their nominated players.  No trading will be allowed.
3) We will be using the draw as devised by UF each week.
4) Will apply HGA as appropriate off line -

If we were to go back to CD I would have to check each week to ensure rules are not being flaunted,  believe me there are time when this is the case. So my recommendation for simplicity is to use the 173 DPP from UF. Will make our competition further unique from others.

[Spite]

Do not think you realise with going UF and customising we get to use their scoring systems and saves me a great deal of work as I will explain.

1) You will be lodging your team each week in UF and no need to lodge in thread.  Any penalties involved will be done off line.
2) we will be using a UF draft which I will load so each franchise has their nominated players.  No trading will be allowed.
3) We will be using the draw as devised by UF each week.
4) Will apply HGA as appropriate off line -

If we were to go back to CD I would have to check each week to ensure rules are not being flaunted,  believe me there are time when this is the case. So my recommendation for simplicity is to use the 173 DPP from UF. Will make our competition further unique from others.

Ringo I don't think you understand what I'm saying honestly.

I understand everything and all the points you mentioned above. I understood it before I posted.

I am simply saying that when we use UF and we name our own teams each week, people with Goddard only use him throughout the year as a Midfielder and not a defender. That is all.

Once again, UF and CD all have the same player positions except UF has 13 additional DPPs. That means we are able to use CD positions as long as those 13 extra players are named here and people know to play them in their CD positions and not their UF positions.

Nothing changes for you Ringo. You have literally the same amount of work as before. (If you want to check the 13 players are in their CD positions each week then I guess that is minimal more work, however I think we can all trust each other not to cheat)

Why can't we keep it the same as CD? If you have Griffin, just play him as a mid and not a defender. It is literally that easy. No player is given a position that he can't play in CD so we should keep it as it has always been and stick to CD positions.

CD's reasoning to positions this year was completely retarded. They based positions and DPP based on where they were NAMED before the match. Not roles that they actually played. Griffen missed out on DEF status because he was named in the backline 33% of the time, but had to be named 35% of the time to be given DEF status. Then if you look at his heat map, it's about 50% of his disposal was in the back 50. And about 75% in the back half.

So CD isn't that great to follow.

Where did you read this? Can I please have the link as I am very interested by that, thanks.

[Pkbaldy]

When I kindly asked for 1% and spoiler stats. You told me to find them myself. So I will leave you to find them! They've actually been said on the forum itself, but if you're really struggling i'd try twitter. Pretty easy to find them there

[GoLions]

Why can't we keep it the same as CD? If you have Griffin, just play him as a mid and not a defender. It is literally that easy. No player is given a position that he can't play in CD so we should keep it as it has always been and stick to CD positions.

CD's reasoning to positions this year was completely retarded. They based positions and DPP based on where they were NAMED before the match. Not roles that they actually played. Griffen missed out on DEF status because he was named in the backline 33% of the time, but had to be named 35% of the time to be given DEF status. Then if you look at his heat map, it's about 50% of his disposal was in the back 50. And about 75% in the back half.

So CD isn't that great to follow.

Where did you read this? Can I please have the link as I am very interested by that, thanks.

I think Rico posted it somewhere

[Pkbaldy]

Why can't we keep it the same as CD? If you have Griffin, just play him as a mid and not a defender. It is literally that easy. No player is given a position that he can't play in CD so we should keep it as it has always been and stick to CD positions.

CD's reasoning to positions this year was completely retarded. They based positions and DPP based on where they were NAMED before the match. Not roles that they actually played. Griffen missed out on DEF status because he was named in the backline 33% of the time, but had to be named 35% of the time to be given DEF status. Then if you look at his heat map, it's about 50% of his disposal was in the back 50. And about 75% in the back half.

So CD isn't that great to follow.

Where did you read this? Can I please have the link as I am very interested by that, thanks.

I think Rico posted it somewhere

Yup. Rico and i'm pretty sure Holz had info on it.

[Spite]

When I kindly asked for 1% and spoiler stats. You told me to find them myself. So I will leave you to find them! They've actually been said on the forum itself, but if you're really struggling i'd try twitter. Pretty easy to find them there

Jeez you hold a grudge man. Even the other day when you said we didn't exactly get along I thought you were just playing since I got over that like 2 days after it happened (and will shortly after this)

[Ricochet]

This the one?

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,105230.msg1696910.html#msg1696910

[Spite]

Why can't we keep it the same as CD? If you have Griffin, just play him as a mid and not a defender. It is literally that easy. No player is given a position that he can't play in CD so we should keep it as it has always been and stick to CD positions.

CD's reasoning to positions this year was completely retarded. They based positions and DPP based on where they were NAMED before the match. Not roles that they actually played. Griffen missed out on DEF status because he was named in the backline 33% of the time, but had to be named 35% of the time to be given DEF status. Then if you look at his heat map, it's about 50% of his disposal was in the back 50. And about 75% in the back half.

So CD isn't that great to follow.

After reading the link, I think you have misunderstood the post. It says it is where the player lines up relative to the ball. Not where they are named on the team sheet.

For example, Barlow was a forward because he was mostly in front of the ball, making him a forward, not because he was named on the team sheet as a forward.

Thus CD positioning isn't crap at all and there is no reason why we wouldn't use it.

[nostradamus]

Happy to go with whatever the general concensus is, even happier if that particular scenario makes things easier for Ringo.

Personally l don't think the extra 13 DPP positions make much difference at all, there are already 160 so really it's just a drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

The only thing l am against is if there are positional changes during the season, lock 'em in @ Round one l say.