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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 06:18:18 PM »

Fletcher has missed a heap through injuries and suspension over the years, but I doubt Hogan will crack 400 games.

The way footy is being played these days no one will ever kick 1000 unless there are some significant changes to the rules, in order to help out key forwards.
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 06:40:25 PM »

Well done Boomer!

He's wrong though, someone else will get there eventually

i think he is probably correct though. It appears the youngsters will take abit more time to get games in early and the game is getting tougher to survive in. As the comp keeps getting stronger and stronger players will need to be at the top of their game to last.

Guys like Boomer don't come around very often and even if they do in the future the landscape is changing. I think Buddy will be the last player to kick 1000 goals.

*cough*Hogan*cough*

No shot, the guy has already missed one season due to injury.

He better pick up the pace, currently he needs to play 442 more games to reach 1000

Was only meant to be tongue in cheek but since you took it seriously:

Buddy only kicked 52 in his first 2 seasons. Hogan should go close to that this year

He is still only 20 and Melbourne is still shower, so I have no doubt that he will pick up the pace in the years to come

Obviously it's not going to be easy and it's a hell of a lot of pressure for a young player, but I wouldn't say it's unfeasible
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2015, 07:08:11 PM »

Well done Boomer!

He's wrong though, someone else will get there eventually

i think he is probably correct though. It appears the youngsters will take abit more time to get games in early and the game is getting tougher to survive in. As the comp keeps getting stronger and stronger players will need to be at the top of their game to last.

Guys like Boomer don't come around very often and even if they do in the future the landscape is changing. I think Buddy will be the last player to kick 1000 goals.

*cough*Hogan*cough*

No shot, the guy has already missed one season due to injury.

He better pick up the pace, currently he needs to play 442 more games to reach 1000

Was only meant to be tongue in cheek but since you took it seriously:

Buddy only kicked 52 in his first 2 seasons. Hogan should go close to that this year

He is still only 20 and Melbourne is still shower, so I have no doubt that he will pick up the pace in the years to come

Obviously it's not going to be easy and it's a hell of a lot of pressure for a young player, but I wouldn't say it's unfeasible

Cameron would be a safer bet than hogan imo :P

That being said, I'd be surprised if either of them hit 1000.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2015, 07:47:19 PM »

What a player - well deserved, shame its not in Melbourne but hopefully a bit reception up there this weekend

Big milestone and I tend to agree with his logic, with the demands of footy as a full time job at the club 6 days a week it all seems a pretty intense and highly scrutinised environment so would take a remarkably strong character, not to mention obvious talent, durability and some luck with injuries/suspension

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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2015, 11:23:39 PM »

Well done Boomer!

He's wrong though, someone else will get there eventually

i think he is probably correct though. It appears the youngsters will take abit more time to get games in early and the game is getting tougher to survive in. As the comp keeps getting stronger and stronger players will need to be at the top of their game to last.

Guys like Boomer don't come around very often and even if they do in the future the landscape is changing. I think Buddy will be the last player to kick 1000 goals.

*cough*Hogan*cough*

No shot, the guy has already missed one season due to injury.

He better pick up the pace, currently he needs to play 442 more games to reach 1000

Was only meant to be tongue in cheek but since you took it seriously:

Buddy only kicked 52 in his first 2 seasons. Hogan should go close to that this year

He is still only 20 and Melbourne is still shower, so I have no doubt that he will pick up the pace in the years to come

Obviously it's not going to be easy and it's a hell of a lot of pressure for a young player, but I wouldn't say it's unfeasible

Hogans only kicked 28 so he won't get near 52 with only 7 games left.
Also already 21 years old at the start of next year.
Even if he played till he was 35 he would need to average like 70 goals a season and miss no footy.
The thousand won't be reached again after Buddy unfortunately. And even sader that the 100 goal seasons are done as well :(
Who knows what rule changes there could be in the future though

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2015, 10:17:52 PM »

Boomer is a legend, and I was fuming with the way journalists speculated about his playing future in the lead up to such a big milestone. It spurred this opinion piece, I hope you enjoy it. Would appreciate some honest feedback!

A Boo for Barrett

This isn’t a boo for Goodes. This isn’t a boo for Boomer. This is a boo for Barrett.

It seems those commenting on AFL issues can say whatever they want without being held responsible for their opinions. Journalists like Mark Robinson, upfront and hard-hitting, who tackle the toughest topics in footy and admit their mistakes keeping their credibility in tact, are hard to come by. If the integrity of AFL is to be maintained, journalists need to report with a sense of plausibility and accountability that reflects the game’s integrity and pride.

The Australian public admire accountability in journalists. Above all else, beyond entertaining their audience, journalists are responsible for informing and educating the public with plausible ideas, in fields they’re experts in. Presumably, for Damian Barrett, this is AFL.  We encourage and admire contentious discussion that generates debate – not nonsense. We don’t encourage journalists to opportunistically take advantage of massive occurrences in our great game, to put their ridiculous ideas in the spotlight to generate attention. We don’t encourage journalists shooting non-sensical sh** at the wall to see what sticks. It seems journalists can be blatantly wrong and move on without being responsible for their opinions – without apologising, without taking it back as they should. This reflects poorly on the individual journalist, the AFL media as a whole, and our beloved game.

During the week, Damian Barrett wrote an article in the lead up to Boomer’s 400th game. While it made some decent points and touched on the loyalty owed to Brent Harvey by North Melbourne, Barrett joined the group of journalists opportunistically speculating about Brent Harvey’s playing future, tarnishing the lead up to a brilliant and historical milestone. Damian Barrett can pose that…”Alastair Clarkson and the Hawks seriously asked him the question three seasons ago, and would almost certainly do so again…” but not without considering why, as any respectable journalist should.

Let’s look beyond the fact that the next day Brent Harvey came out stating he wouldn’t play at another club. Let’s look beyond the potential salary cap ramifications for the Hawks. Let’s assess the degree of football understanding behind this comment. Let’s assess, why on earth Damien Barrett thinks Hawthorn would seriously ask the same question three years later.

At the end of 2009, Hawthorn tabled an offer to Josh Kennedy who opted to leave to the Sydney Swans. While his grandfather John Kennedy Sr. was a legend for the Hawks, the strong family ties were not enough to keep Josh Kennedy at the club – one of the reasons being that around the likes of Hodge, Sewell, Lewis and even Sam Mitchell (as big of a surprise as that may be to Wayne Carey), Josh Kennedy’s opportunities to break into the best 22 were somewhat limited. Now one of the most prominent midfielders in the league, Josh Kennedy serves as a reminder to Hawthorn, of just how important giving opportunities to young footballers is.

Hawthorn’s ageing list is in a remarkably different position now to what it was 3 years ago. Will Langford, Jonathan Simpkin, Jed Anderson, Billy Hartung, Jonathan O’Rourke, Brendan Whitecross and Alex Woodward are all on the fringe of playing senior footy consistently over the next couple of years. So in assessing why Damien Barrett comments that Hawthorn would again “seriously” consider a 38-year-old for its ageing list; I wonder whether he gave it any proper thought or merely interviewed a 6 year old wearing gold-and-brown at his local Auskick clinic. 

Can Damian Barrett not see that playing Brent Harvey ahead of the younger players on the list would open Hawthorn up to losing them, in a similar fashion to Josh Kennedy in 2009? Can Damian Barrett not see that in the last 3 years Hawthorn have won 2 premierships and are in a markedly different position to what they were then? Can Damian Barrett not see, that if Hawthorn wants another player at the club it would be someone who is a better fit than Brent Harvey at 38? Can Damian Barrett not see, that it isn’t 2007 and Hawthorn doesn’t need a Stuart Dew?

Hawthorn has averaged 116 points this year, the most of any club, boasting one of (if not the) the most damaging forward lines in the league. With small forwards Cyril Rioli and Paul Puopolo, is Boomer seriously required? With the outside run provided from Isaac Smith, Bradley Hill, Shaun Burgoyne, Liam Shiels and Billy Hartung, the only thing for Hawthorn to seriously consider is how quickly to dismiss Barrett’s claim.

A professional AFL journalist should be able to. Boomer is a gun, and Barrett is a professional. But for someone who’s Twitter account regularly holds the AFL tribunal accountable for mistakes, he’s a big pot calling the kettle black. He has a responsibility to inform and educate his audience, not deal out this sort of rubbish. His comment was outright ridiculous. I feel for the 60-70 year old men who love their footy, read that, took it to their discussions at the local pub and got laughed at by those who were exposed to high quality insightful commentary over the course of the week; such as Dermott Brereton discussing the tactics of Fremantle’s midfield positioning and how other teams have combatted this over the course of the year. 

Damian Barrett, I’ll never be able to listen to anything you say, or read anything you write without cringing. Maybe that’s just because I see you as a shock-jock with access to some industry sources and thousands of misled followers on Twitter. There are people out there who are good at what they do, are professionals and experts in one field or another. If you’re a professional, be one. Put forward your plausible opinions; keep the ridiculous conspiracies to yourself. When you’re wrong, take it back.

If Hawthorn want Brent Harvey, it’s so that he can sit down and have a cup of tea and a nostalgic chat with 86 year old John Kennedy Snr - about how the game’s changed from their time to now, and have a good laugh at the sensationalist fodder published in the media that journalists get away with.

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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2015, 08:50:08 AM »

Great read.

Would be super interesting if he did go to the Hawks after that (wont happen)
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2015, 09:02:20 PM »

Brad Scott says Boomer can play on, now, that's big of him. How about showing Boomer a little respect Mr. Scott.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2015, 10:00:30 AM »

Brad Scott says Boomer can play on, now, that's big of him. How about showing Boomer a little respect Mr. Scott.

Scott is all about everyone having to earn their spot in a team and nothing is for granted. He would treat everyone in the same respect, Boomer needs to earn his spot. We all know he will but it won't be given to him.
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2015, 03:49:05 PM »

Brad Scott says Boomer can play on, now, that's big of him. How about showing Boomer a little respect Mr. Scott.

Scott is all about everyone having to earn their spot in a team and nothing is for granted. He would treat everyone in the same respect, Boomer needs to earn his spot. We all know he will but it won't be given to him.

Sorry Bud, but I totally disagree with this. Boomer don't owe nothing to the Kangas after being their best player for the past 20 odd seasons and giving his all. The game may of gone past this old stager (me ) but there's no flowering respect any more. If Boomer thinks he can contribute to the team, sign the flowerer up.
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2015, 04:17:40 PM »

Brad Scott says Boomer can play on, now, that's big of him. How about showing Boomer a little respect Mr. Scott.

Scott is all about everyone having to earn their spot in a team and nothing is for granted. He would treat everyone in the same respect, Boomer needs to earn his spot. We all know he will but it won't be given to him.

Sorry Bud, but I totally disagree with this. Boomer don't owe nothing to the Kangas after being their best player for the past 20 odd seasons and giving his all. The game may of gone past this old stager (me ) but there's no flowering respect any more. If Boomer thinks he can contribute to the team, sign the flowerer up.

Boomer is my favorite athlete of all time, Im sure he wouldnt want be patronised and get given a spot if he doesnt earnt it (goodes). he is soo great that he will earn it, the respect they should show him is if he is best 22 play him even if you want to promote your youth. I dont think any preferential treatment is needed just no disadvantage due to age.

As long as they arent holding him back because of his age he will earn a spot. Just like Andrew Swallow and Jack Ziebell will.
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2015, 06:42:20 PM »

Brad Scott says Boomer can play on, now, that's big of him. How about showing Boomer a little respect Mr. Scott.

Scott is all about everyone having to earn their spot in a team and nothing is for granted. He would treat everyone in the same respect, Boomer needs to earn his spot. We all know he will but it won't be given to him.

Sorry Bud, but I totally disagree with this. Boomer don't owe nothing to the Kangas after being their best player for the past 20 odd seasons and giving his all. The game may of gone past this old stager (me ) but there's no flowering respect any more. If Boomer thinks he can contribute to the team, sign the flowerer up.

Boomer is my favorite athlete of all time, Im sure he wouldnt want be patronised and get given a spot if he doesnt earnt it (goodes). he is soo great that he will earn it, the respect they should show him is if he is best 22 play him even if you want to promote your youth. I dont think any preferential treatment is needed just no disadvantage due to age.

As long as they arent holding him back because of his age he will earn a spot. Just like Andrew Swallow and Jack Ziebell will.

Goodes has done enough to hold his spot in the swans team imo... he's not as prolific as he used to be , but he plays a different role atm- I'm sure most sydney supporters would say the same as well.
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2015, 12:19:24 PM »

There you go has been given one more year (at least)

you would think he would be on 407-408 at the end of this year so just needs 20.
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2015, 05:14:44 PM »

congrats little man, I think that's your 8th one year contract signed and put to bed. Petrie signed up as well, now just need Wood signed on, don't flower that up Norf.    8)
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2015, 11:59:23 AM »

Boomer kept us in the game yesterday, no Boomer, no win against Freo. Seen some praise from Goldy after the game, saying Boomer can play for as long as he wants. Now that's respect for the little champ!
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