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« on: April 16, 2016, 09:34:50 AM »

We have now had a few rounds with the new rule in place. So adding a topic for comment.

Overall i think it has been good for the game as we are seeing less throw ins per game.  We see players trying to keep the ball in play to avoid being called for deliberate.

I do however have one real concern with the rule though and that is where the ball is kicked some 50 - 60 metres down field by a defending team to an open area usually landing a reasonable distance inside the boundary line but eventually goes out because no players are within the vicinity and deliberate out of bounds is awarded.  Have seen this on about half a dozen occasions so far and feel that in these instances discretion should be applied as the defending team after making the effort to clear are penallised.

Realise the rule is intended to keep the ball in play as much as possible but surely in these cases discretion should be allowed. 
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2016, 10:21:28 AM »

Its a shower rule! Territory is a good tactic in footy let the players play!
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2016, 11:07:15 AM »

I think any kick that travels more than 40 meters forward should be ineligible to be deemed deliberate
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2016, 11:18:46 AM »

Rubbish rule
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2016, 11:23:55 AM »

Agree 100% Ringo
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 02:21:57 PM »

A very good rule that is good for the game and its been pretty well officiated from what I've seen.

Agree that they should be more lenient when balls go out after they've been kicked 50-60 meters, especially if its because of the bounce. Can't just put a blanket if it goes Xm+ its not deliberate in tho.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2016, 02:03:56 PM »

A very good rule that is good for the game and its been pretty well officiated from what I've seen.

Agree that they should be more lenient when balls go out after they've been kicked 50-60 meters, especially if its because of the bounce. Can't just put a blanket if it goes Xm+ its not deliberate in tho.

Look if they kick it 50m, there's nobody there and it bounces on the boundary and goes over, that's deliberate imo.

If they're calling it when it's rolled for like 15m though, that's ridiculous.

Tbh I'm glad they're cracking down on it- in past seasons I've seen soooo many deliberates where a player was just clearly seeking the boundary line that weren't interpreted as deliberates. As you said, keeps the ball in play more.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2016, 02:18:01 PM »

Interpretation of this rule needs to be consistent - Seen this from both teams on Saturday when a player is tackled close to boundary line ball is pushed towards the line and these are not called when imo there is a deliberate attempt to get the ball out.  That was what I thought the tightening up was supposed to avoid.

So it seems they are paying long kicks or kicks that bounce out but not concentrating on the close ones. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2016, 02:23:19 PM »

There was one on the weekend (can't remember the details) where the opposition player could have gathered the ball but chose to let it roll out. He then appealed for deliberate and got the free kick!

That was bull shower, he should have been pinged!
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2016, 02:31:42 PM »

There was one on the weekend (can't remember the details) where the opposition player could have gathered the ball but chose to let it roll out. He then appealed for deliberate and got the free kick!

That was bull shower, he should have been pinged!
Agree with that as well - remember it but old age can not remember game or player.  So if a player deliberately lets a ball go out and not play at it should it be a free against the player for not playing it.  I think so.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2016, 05:42:17 PM »

There was one on the weekend (can't remember the details) where the opposition player could have gathered the ball but chose to let it roll out. He then appealed for deliberate and got the free kick!

That was bull shower, he should have been pinged!
Agree with that as well - remember it but old age can not remember game or player.  So if a player deliberately lets a ball go out and not play at it should it be a free against the player for not playing it.  I think so.

Agreed, the interpretation of the rule was adjusted so that the ball spends more time in play, not having blokes guarding the ball rolling out of play in order to get a free kick. Should be a free kick the other way, and perhaps a 50m penalty which would really wipe it out
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