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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2017, 12:52:04 PM »

Does this help as well from Beams press conference after being announced as Captain.

"DB: I've done everything asked of me and everything possible to make sure I'm playing every game this year. I'm confident I can do that."
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2017, 12:57:30 PM »

I just think if you are going to grab Ryder it makes sense to grab him after his bye. If there is a playing rookie it makes it a no brainer. His scores have traditionally been a roller coaster, his bye is terrible with you having to field 22 the week he is out and he won't play 22 games anyway.

Beams is interesting, I'm still not sold on the knee, but his scoring potential is ridiculous for his price.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2017, 01:25:24 PM »

If he can stay fit for the first half of the season even, Avg 110-115 which is possible no doubt. I'd be happy to side swap him if he gets injured at his price of 600k or thereabouts to a Selwood who has had his inevitable run of 3 85s in a row and can possible make a profit.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2017, 01:39:30 PM »

Yeah you boys are right

My gut just doesn't love the idea of Ryder, and with Freo having so many games on the western side of the country early it might be worth going with no cover, and then just dealing with it if it happens

Thanks for that quote too Ringo - I think I have to bring him in now
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2017, 11:34:05 AM »

Just playing around with options at the moment.

Need to bring Beams in, and I think due to the lack of mid and fwd rookies I have to go deep there and light down back

At this point, I'm liking this structure a lot however the only areas I am still open to changing are:

Laird & Mills: Might be too weak so am open to making changes to upgrade to Doch/Simmo/Shaw. Keeffe is just a place holder, but 2 prem 6 rookies is the structure

Macrae: Dahl, Heeney and Rough are locked for me, and not having ruck cover might be a little risky. Either way, if I need to bring in ruck cover or upgrade my defenders I think Macrae is the one to go. Macrae down to Ryder/Nank/Steele etc gets me the funds to improve def prems

Feel like mids, rucks and fwds are strong enough and because of this my first upgrades (Round 5-6 onwards) will be bringing in a 3rd and 4th defender, so I only really need this weak backline to hold the fort for the first 6 weeks which I think it can, while the other 3 lines should be more than solid enough to hold things down while I upgrade the backs first



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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2017, 12:42:52 PM »

Like it RD, yeah only thing is ruck cover but I'm finding it hard to bring myself to do it also, don't like the options too much!
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2017, 12:54:52 PM »

Forget ruck cover Sandi is either going to fail early which for me is a double trade to rectify or he is going to make some cash if so all good , would like to see another gun in the backs maybe lose a gun in the mids for O'Meara but good set up
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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2017, 03:20:59 PM »

Nice Team RD - At the moment rookies seem to be all over the shop with chances of playing so we just need to wait and see who plays from Rd 1.
If all do not eventuate you have a number of options to rectify though. Prem Mid down to O'Meara will help.
Seriously considering going without Ruck Back up myself to get best forward line.
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2017, 05:15:11 PM »

I really don't like the fwd ruck cover choices at all. It's part of the reason I haven't entertained thoughts of having Sandi but as Shaker says you can always double trade. Sandi is going to give people a leg up one way or the other. Seems the biggest decision to make this year... or perhaps that's just me.
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2017, 05:33:32 PM »

Thanks for the input guys

Yeah I just don't like the ruck cover options

We always use a few corrective trades early on if things don't go to plan so I'll do that if need be

Pretty settled on the structure, just need to decide who I want in D1/D2/D3 and F2

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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2017, 06:47:53 PM »

I prefer the setup without going for a ruck in the forward line taking up a spot.

Nank gives me Zac Smith/Bellcho vibes. I still think if I was to pick cover Ryder isn't a terrible option, but I'd grab him after his bye. He has never been consistent and it gives him some time to get into the swing of things again. You could probably get him for 350k around that point after he puts in a stinker.

If a rookie starts that seems to be the go otherwise just roll the dice with Sandi. It doesn't feel like a wasted spot in your team that way.
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2017, 08:50:46 PM »

Good looking team RD.    Can understand going light in backs.   


Mat, do not get the same vibes from Nank as Bellcho.   See him as a cheaper Ryder option with capability of 90+ average.  I see him as outscoring all fwds around that 400 mark.   
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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2017, 09:07:47 PM »

Mat, do not get the same vibes from Nank as Bellcho.   See him as a cheaper Ryder option with capability of 90+ average.  I see him as outscoring all fwds around that 400 mark.   

Zac Smith is probably a better comparison. Everyone was frothing over him when he went to the Cats. He was going to be the number 1 ruck and had all this potential, killed it in the NAB and reverted to his true form. Bellcho couldn't get on the park but everyone was looking at his HTA numbers which were huge and hence they brought him in for forward cover. There are a couple of these guys every year, people get sucked in and regret it by round 5 and can't trade them out because they have issues elsewhere.
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2017, 09:18:36 PM »

Mat, do not get the same vibes from Nank as Bellcho.   See him as a cheaper Ryder option with capability of 90+ average.  I see him as outscoring all fwds around that 400 mark.   

Zac Smith is probably a better comparison. Everyone was frothing over him when he went to the Cats. He was going to be the number 1 ruck and had all this potential, killed it in the NAB and reverted to his true form. Bellcho couldn't get on the park but everyone was looking at his HTA numbers which were huge and hence they brought him in for forward cover. There are a couple of these guys every year, people get sucked in and regret it by round 5 and can't trade them out because they have issues elsewhere.
Valid points.  Perhaps lowest risk option is no cover for Sandi, trade someone in if needed.     Reminds me of how they generate alpha and beta in stockmarkets.   Average out risk by adding risk.   Issue is where do you spend the extra cash. 
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2017, 09:25:54 PM »

Valid points.  Perhaps lowest risk option is no cover for Sandi, trade someone in if needed.     Reminds me of how they generate alpha and beta in stockmarkets.   Average out risk by adding risk.   Issue is where do you spend the extra cash.

I'd go with the midfield like RD has or spread the cash to turn some questionable selections into bona fide premiums.
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