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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2016, 12:05:40 PM »

Well vic clubs (minus Geelong) only have to travel 9 other teams home games, other than that they get home games. Surely it can't be that hard to make them travel once or twice more each season and the interstate clubs have an extra game at home.

Ok throw into that we have 23 round comp with 18 teams and the higher finishing teams get a harder draw playing top 8 teams twice that should be a piece of cake to organize  :P
Yeah you're not wrong there. I'm sure something could be worked out tho.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2016, 01:24:26 PM »

Yeah look, I've always considered this a bit of a non-issue. The home ground advantage we get at Subi is a million times better than anything Melbourne clubs get at the G, especially when they play another Victorian club.

Basically this. The only time a Victorian team gets a home ground advantage (not counting Geelong) it is when they are playing another interstate team. For reference, here are Carlton's games against interstate teams.

Suns @ Etihad
Swans @ MCG
Giants @ Etihad
Crows @ MCG

These are their away games

Port @ AO
Freo @ Domain
Suns @ Metricon
Brisbane @ Gabba
WC @ Domain
Swans @ SCG

That is 4 games with a perceived advantage and 6 against. That doesn't include 6 day breaks and the like. Meanwhile any interstate team has 2 neutral games and then a 50/50 split. 50% is better then 40%.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2016, 01:38:52 PM »

The AFL forgets where the hand that feeds them comes from. Prop up the useless broke A.F Melbourne teams, then punish the money makers from the West. Makes sense  :o
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2016, 02:42:49 PM »

Yeah look, I've always considered this a bit of a non-issue. The home ground advantage we get at Subi is a million times better than anything Melbourne clubs get at the G, especially when they play another Victorian club.

Basically this. The only time a Victorian team gets a home ground advantage (not counting Geelong) it is when they are playing another interstate team. For reference, here are Carlton's games against interstate teams.

Suns @ Etihad
Swans @ MCG
Giants @ Etihad
Crows @ MCG

These are their away games

Port @ AO
Freo @ Domain
Suns @ Metricon
Brisbane @ Gabba
WC @ Domain
Swans @ SCG

That is 4 games with a perceived advantage and 6 against. That doesn't include 6 day breaks and the like. Meanwhile any interstate team has 2 neutral games and then a 50/50 split. 50% is better then 40%.

Its more then just what state its in.

Are people seriously saying that the Dogs at the MCG are just as good as they are at Etihad as an example or the fact that more people will obviously turn up to a home game to support there club then away. If its a home game you have more supporters turn up, the pre game is mainly about you and after every game and score. Even being a north fan its a decent amount of difference in a home and away game.

plus the argument works both ways.

yeah if your playing a home game against a victorian club you have a lower advantage then playing freo or eagles but when your away you have a bigger advantage. Plus the travel time is a killer you sit in victoria the whole teams gives you more rest, less time on a plane etc... the perth to melbourne flight isnt too much fun at all.

WA teams have a major disadvantage, they wont fix it in the real comp but they shouldnt make them move in preseason, not only that but WA teams will get big crowds at home.

Eagles are the best club in the history of AFL by a mile to be that successful with all the disadvantages, no team can compete. Sorry Hawks, North, Lions, Geelong. Essendon Collingwood Carlton fans dont even talk your successful VFL teams, your average of worse AFL teams.

 
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2016, 03:20:59 PM »

Even being a north fan its a decent amount of difference in a home and away game.
legit? I thought you were their only supporter?
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2016, 03:40:33 PM »

Eagles are the best club in the history of AFL by a mile to be that successful with all the disadvantages, no team can compete.

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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2016, 03:41:49 PM »

Even being a north fan its a decent amount of difference in a home and away game.
legit? I thought you were their only supporter?

I actually rarely go to games.

we actually had 45,000 members. that will fall massively because of Boomer.
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2016, 04:09:45 PM »

Yeah look, I've always considered this a bit of a non-issue. The home ground advantage we get at Subi is a million times better than anything Melbourne clubs get at the G, especially when they play another Victorian club.
Ele is on the money here

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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2016, 04:12:34 PM »

The AFL forgets where the hand that feeds them comes from. Prop up the useless broke A.F Melbourne teams, then punish the money makers from the West. Makes sense  :o

Its the useless broke Melbourne teams that make the comp, imagine Melbourne only had 2 teams  :o
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2016, 04:17:17 PM »

The AFL forgets where the hand that feeds them comes from. Prop up the useless broke A.F Melbourne teams, then punish the money makers from the West. Makes sense  :o

Its the useless broke Melbourne teams that make the comp, imagine Melbourne only had 2 teams  :o

and just wont the flag :P

we need the Victorian clubs, we need the SA and WA clubs.

the thing we shouldnt be supporting is GWS and GC. Should stop pushing in Rugby areas, WA 3rd and Tasmanian is what it should have been
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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2016, 04:20:14 PM »

Yep .. 3rd WA team would have been great.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2016, 04:29:12 PM »

Meanwhile between the borders, Adelaide was handed a few gifts if anyone can believe that ever happening?

Firstly A hugely long travel after R1 bye (Thankyou AFL) all the way to the Docklands, oh the humanity

Then two games right here in Adelaide itself

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Cop that WA ;D
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2016, 04:55:13 PM »

The AFL forgets where the hand that feeds them comes from. Prop up the useless broke A.F Melbourne teams, then punish the money makers from the West. Makes sense  :o

Its the useless broke Melbourne teams that make the comp, imagine Melbourne only had 2 teams  :o

Not saying to cut from 10 down to 2.... But should be more like 6 or 7 teams. One may have won the grandy... But that bandwagon will empty just as quickly as it filled once they're no longer at the top.
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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2016, 05:16:19 PM »

Whilst the Grand Final is played at the MCG every year there it will always be unfair to those teams that don't come from Melbourne. Now I'm not saying the GF should move from there, but it will always make it unfair in favour of the Melbourne side.
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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2016, 05:52:38 PM »

The AFL forgets where the hand that feeds them comes from. Prop up the useless broke A.F Melbourne teams, then punish the money makers from the West. Makes sense  :o

Its the useless broke Melbourne teams that make the comp, imagine Melbourne only had 2 teams  :o

Not saying to cut from 10 down to 2.... But should be more like 6 or 7 teams. One may have won the grandy... But that bandwagon will empty just as quickly as it filled once they're no longer at the top.

Yeah but who would go? there would be some seriously unhappy supporters around. When Footscray changed to Western Bulldogs I think that was a very smart thing to do, a lot of people in the West and building.

Whilst the Grand Final is played at the MCG every year there it will always be unfair to those teams that don't come from Melbourne. Now I'm not saying the GF should move from there, but it will always make it unfair in favour of the Melbourne side.

How many games do the interstate teams play at the MCG compared to Melbourne teams playing at interstate grounds during the year? (I honestly don't know) You cant please everyone, as controversial as this comment is I think it should just be played where it has always been played, as harsh as it is for the interstate teams and supporters. That being said I think the AFL will play a Granny interstate at some stage depending on the teams in the Grand Final obviously.
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