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« on: November 25, 2017, 06:10:12 PM »

So with the draft done, who do we think is likely to play early?

Higgins sliding to 17 is huge as his price will be cheap. Hopefully gets a game from round 1 although it probably would have been better if he ended up at a lower side needing a small forward.

Who are your must haves?
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2017, 08:17:42 PM »

James Worpel plays round 1 for the hawks barring injury, Dylan Moore also a chance
But i like Worps chances of avg atleast 70 hence being a good cash cow
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2017, 08:23:52 PM »

James Worpel plays round 1 for the hawks barring injury, Dylan Moore also a chance
But i like Worps chances of avg atleast 70 hence being a good cash cow

Where do you see Worpel playing? Straight into the midfield?
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2017, 11:26:12 PM »

James Worpel plays round 1 for the hawks barring injury, Dylan Moore also a chance
But i like Worps chances of avg atleast 70 hence being a good cash cow

Where do you see Worpel playing? Straight into the midfield?
our mid depth especially at the clearance is horrible
Titch, Jaegar and Shiels then who do we go next ? its really light
needs a great pre season to be best 18 but best 22 seems likely with a decent pre season
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2017, 03:30:45 PM »

James Worpel plays round 1 for the hawks barring injury, Dylan Moore also a chance
But i like Worps chances of avg atleast 70 hence being a good cash cow

Where do you see Worpel playing? Straight into the midfield?
our mid depth especially at the clearance is horrible
Titch, Jaegar and Shiels then who do we go next ? its really light
needs a great pre season to be best 18 but best 22 seems likely with a decent pre season

Yeah I think you're right!
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2017, 03:34:47 PM »

Tim Kelly drafted to Geelong will be a regular from the start of the season you would think. Mature age recruit and fills a need. Also the eagles getting Liam Ryan, another mature ager that will slot into the forward line nicely
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2017, 04:29:27 PM »

Tim Kelly drafted to Geelong will be a regular from the start of the season you would think. Mature age recruit and fills a need. Also the eagles getting Liam Ryan, another mature ager that will slot into the forward line nicely


I'd be wary of key forwards as rookies, that guy from port last year springs to mind and Eagles still have JJK & Darling.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 04:41:45 PM »

Tim Kelly drafted to Geelong will be a regular from the start of the season you would think. Mature age recruit and fills a need. Also the eagles getting Liam Ryan, another mature ager that will slot into the forward line nicely


I'd be wary of key forwards as rookies, that guy from port last year springs to mind and Eagles still have JJK & Darling.

He's not a tall, he's a little speedy forward. Agree with not going near tall forwards haha
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 05:12:31 PM »

Tim Kelly drafted to Geelong will be a regular from the start of the season you would think. Mature age recruit and fills a need. Also the eagles getting Liam Ryan, another mature ager that will slot into the forward line nicely


I'd be wary of key forwards as rookies, that guy from port last year springs to mind and Eagles still have JJK & Darling.

He's not a tall, he's a little speedy forward. Agree with not going near tall forwards haha

I wouldn't touch Ryan either (there are reasons he wasn't drafted the last few years) unless he has a ripper pre-season. I've seen him a lot for Subi and he's a good WAFL forward against mediocre backmen but I think in the AFL he'll be about a goal-a-game, very Josh Hill like. Great highlight reel but doesn't get much of the pill and his JS isn't amazing with LeCras still around - they wouldn't have kept him on if they weren't going to utilise him.

Additionally, one key factor that won't help him is his WAFL Grand Final performances against the Freo-stacked Peel sides of 2016 and 2017. In the 2016 grannie he had 13 disposals, 2 marks and 1 goal (51 DT, idk about SC) and in the 2017 grannie he had 10 disposals, 1 mark, 0 goals and 48 DT. This is against the lower-tier AFL players like Dawson, Ibbotson, Logue, Collins, and Luke Ryan (who dominated). He may do good with Joe-the-gooses and against weaker teams but I don't think his scoring potential nor JS are good enough to warrant a selection at this stage.

You really want M/F rookies like Higgins, Stephenson, etc to fill up your F6, F7 and F8 spots.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2017, 09:37:16 PM »

Tim Kelly drafted to Geelong will be a regular from the start of the season you would think. Mature age recruit and fills a need. Also the eagles getting Liam Ryan, another mature ager that will slot into the forward line nicely


I'd be wary of key forwards as rookies, that guy from port last year springs to mind and Eagles still have JJK & Darling.

He's not a tall, he's a little speedy forward. Agree with not going near tall forwards haha

I wouldn't touch Ryan either (there are reasons he wasn't drafted the last few years) unless he has a ripper pre-season. I've seen him a lot for Subi and he's a good WAFL forward against mediocre backmen but I think in the AFL he'll be about a goal-a-game, very Josh Hill like. Great highlight reel but doesn't get much of the pill and his JS isn't amazing with LeCras still around - they wouldn't have kept him on if they weren't going to utilise him.

Additionally, one key factor that won't help him is his WAFL Grand Final performances against the Freo-stacked Peel sides of 2016 and 2017. In the 2016 grannie he had 13 disposals, 2 marks and 1 goal (51 DT, idk about SC) and in the 2017 grannie he had 10 disposals, 1 mark, 0 goals and 48 DT. This is against the lower-tier AFL players like Dawson, Ibbotson, Logue, Collins, and Luke Ryan (who dominated). He may do good with Joe-the-gooses and against weaker teams but I don't think his scoring potential nor JS are good enough to warrant a selection at this stage.

You really want M/F rookies like Higgins, Stephenson, etc to fill up your F6, F7 and F8 spots.

Unusual to use a pick in the 20s for a mature ager though if you don't have a role for him. Still, will have to monitor his pre season. Willie Rioli is the other they got last year but I believe he was injured all year? Anyone know where he's at?
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2017, 09:42:04 PM »

Just as I wrote that I stumbled across this article haha

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-draft-2017-west-coast-set-to-unveil-liam-ryan-and-alongside-willie-rioli-ng-b88671714z
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2017, 11:00:48 PM »

Still not sure if Ryan is AFL level tbh. Defensively himself he is shocking and agree with Jukes regarding him vs strong defenders. But we'll see
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2017, 10:02:40 AM »

Garlett surely gets a run ahead of Pickett at the Blues.

Ed Richards ready to go from day one. Bob and Boyd gone opens up a spot.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2017, 02:07:49 PM »

LUKE DAVIES-UNIACKE (North Melbourne)

Expected position: Mid

Expected price: $198,000

Arguably the draftee with the most AFL-ready game and body should walk straight into the Kangaroos line-up. The Dandenong product was ranked No.1 for disposal efficiency of all TAC Cup players to average more than 10 contested possessions. Expensive but with a SuperCoach friendly game and club.

JARROD GARLETT (Carlton)

Expected position: Mid-Fwd

Expected price: $117,300

“Mr Irrelevant”. The last pick in the draft but amazingly a former No.15 draft pick at Gold Coast in 2014. After quitting the Suns due to family reasons at the end of 2016, Garlett is ready to go around again following a strong season with South Fremantle. Averaged 34 and 56 in his two seasons and after missing only one year, his price may be higher than his draft pick suggests.

DOM BARRY (Port Adelaide)

Expected position: Mid-Fwd

Expected price: $117,300

Has already had a taste of AFL but stepped away for personal reasons. Still only 23, he gets another chance at Port Adelaide after impressing for Glenelg in the SANFL, averaging 21 disposals. Has blistering pace and should step straight into Jarman Impey’s shoes.

ZAC BAILEY (Brisbane Lions)

Expected position: Mid

Expected price: $148,000

Expect him to start as a small forward at AFL level, a role which isn’t always SuperCoach friendly. However, his speed and aggressive tackling should see him get plenty of opportunity at the rebuilding Lions. Definitely one to watch in the pre-season.

JAIDYN STEPHENSON (Collingwood)

Expected position: Mid-Fwd

Expected price: $193,000

His health concerns didn’t stop Collingwood drafting him and we don’t expect they’ll stop the Magpies from playing him. Averaged a huge 132 SuperCoach points for Vic Metro and put together 22 disposals and three goals in the under-18 All-Star Grand Final curtain-raiser. A line-breaking talent with strong endurance.

ANDREW BRAYSHAW (Fremantle)

Expected position: Mid

Expected price: $207,000

Scored 100 or more in every TAC Cup game this year for Sandringham Dragons and ranked No.1 for score assists. The Dockers’ list is in a state of flux and while he’ll be super expensive for a cash cow, we can be confident he’ll be given plenty of game time ... even if Ross Lyon is Ross Lyon.

DYLAN MOORE (Hawthorn)

Expected position: Mid-Fwd

Expected price: $117,300

Ranked No.9 pre-draft by Champion Data but taken No.67, making him a valuable cheap cash cow. Averaged 130 SuperCoach points in the TAC Cup for Eastern Ranges and 114 SuperCoach points for Vic Metro in the national championships. Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson isn’t afraid to play the youngsters.

HUNTER CLARK (St Kilda)

Expected position: Def-Mid

Expected price: $184,000

A stylish kick on both feet who averaged 129 SuperCoach points when playing midfield for Dandenong Stingrays. The Saints didn’t draft him No.7 for no reason. He’ll play for the get-go and hopefully with dual position eligibility will be a popular pick. Price could be an issue if he’s a midfielder only.

CHARLIE CONSTABLE (Geelong)

Expected position: Mid

Expected price: $123,900

Yes, Geelong’s midfield is stacked but Chris Scott likes complimenting his stars with youngsters. The Cats debuted eight in 2017, the second most of any club. At 190cm, Constable has the body to step into the AFL after averaging 120 in the TAC Cup finals and 121 at the under-18 national championships.

ED RICHARDS (W.Bulldogs)

Expected position: Def

Expected price: $144,000

Luke Beveridge isn’t afraid to give the kids a go and with Bob Murphy and Matthew Boyd retiring there’s a couple of spots open in the Dogs backline. Loves to run and attack with speed, which suits the Dogs gameplan. In the final six TAC Cup games with Oakleigh, the halfback averaged 17 disposals, seven handball receives and three tackles.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2017, 02:54:09 PM »

Stay away from Brayshaw. Ross doesn't play kids
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