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« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2018, 10:34:57 AM »

Although having another midfielder would be ideal I think that this season in particular will be stacked with midfield rookies that are capable of scoring well so I have decided that I would prefer to go one short in the midfield to allow me to get the right rookies.

Also gives me some time to get the Oliver and Kelly’s of 2018 in my side rather than only having two positions to fill.

Definitely understand where you’re coming from though as I could fall behind the pack early.
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« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2018, 02:07:43 PM »

I agree with MS - presuming the top 4 draft picks all start, you can afford to go one less in mids to strengthen backs and forwards. Great team MS!
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« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2018, 05:46:22 PM »

I agree with MS - presuming the top 4 draft picks all start, you can afford to go one less in mids to strengthen backs and forwards. Great team MS!
Thanks mate. Looking at rookies this year I just can’t see any defender rookies (apart from Doedee) that look like viable options on the field so that is the reason why I’m going with one less mid premium as it allows me to get an extra premium in my defence. It is also the reason I’m going with Birchall as although I am not sold on many defender rookies getting games and at least Birchall will play and score 70+ most weeks.

I know rookies always pop up each year but I think the only rookie priced players that look like a genuine chance are key position players and I don’t want them in my team.

Obviously if more rookies pop up I might change my structure around a bit but I would rather start out with a “safe” line up.
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« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2018, 05:55:05 PM »

I agree with MS - presuming the top 4 draft picks all start, you can afford to go one less in mids to strengthen backs and forwards. Great team MS!
Thanks mate. Looking at rookies this year I just can’t see any defender rookies (apart from Doedee) that look like viable options on the field so that is the reason why I’m going with one less mid premium as it allows me to get an extra premium in my defence. It is also the reason I’m going with Birchall as although I am not sold on many defender rookies getting games and at least Birchall will play and score 70+ most weeks.

I know rookies always pop up each year but I think the only rookie priced players that look like a genuine chance are key position players and I don’t want them in my team.

Obviously if more rookies pop up I might change my structure around a bit but I would rather start out with a “safe” line up.
Think you have done better teams MS.    Hurley is priced at his peak and just don't like taking KPP; little own at their peak.    Rather Yeo (later) or Simmo or Williams.     Like the mid approach and gives you flexibility. 
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« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2018, 09:34:49 AM »

I agree with MS - presuming the top 4 draft picks all start, you can afford to go one less in mids to strengthen backs and forwards. Great team MS!
Thanks mate. Looking at rookies this year I just can’t see any defender rookies (apart from Doedee) that look like viable options on the field so that is the reason why I’m going with one less mid premium as it allows me to get an extra premium in my defence. It is also the reason I’m going with Birchall as although I am not sold on many defender rookies getting games and at least Birchall will play and score 70+ most weeks.

I know rookies always pop up each year but I think the only rookie priced players that look like a genuine chance are key position players and I don’t want them in my team.

Obviously if more rookies pop up I might change my structure around a bit but I would rather start out with a “safe” line up.
Think you have done better teams MS.    Hurley is priced at his peak and just don't like taking KPP; little own at their peak.    Rather Yeo (later) or Simmo or Williams.     Like the mid approach and gives you flexibility.
Thanks for the feedback Crowls, I appreciate it.

On Hurley, His lowest score for the season was 73 which means he didn't have a bad game. He averaged 107.6 from round 5 onwards so believe it or not he could increase his average by 5 although I am not expecting that haha. He is in his prime with an Essendon team that will be more competitive this season than last meaning he could get even more intercept marks from rushed opposition kicks. So for now he stays.

Hibberd is the guy I would bring in for him because he was a top 6 defender last year and he has even more upside this year.




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« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2018, 10:08:18 AM »

I agree with MS - presuming the top 4 draft picks all start, you can afford to go one less in mids to strengthen backs and forwards. Great team MS!
Thanks mate. Looking at rookies this year I just can’t see any defender rookies (apart from Doedee) that look like viable options on the field so that is the reason why I’m going with one less mid premium as it allows me to get an extra premium in my defence. It is also the reason I’m going with Birchall as although I am not sold on many defender rookies getting games and at least Birchall will play and score 70+ most weeks.

I know rookies always pop up each year but I think the only rookie priced players that look like a genuine chance are key position players and I don’t want them in my team.

Obviously if more rookies pop up I might change my structure around a bit but I would rather start out with a “safe” line up.
Think you have done better teams MS.    Hurley is priced at his peak and just don't like taking KPP; little own at their peak.    Rather Yeo (later) or Simmo or Williams.     Like the mid approach and gives you flexibility.
Thanks for the feedback Crowls, I appreciate it.

On Hurley, His lowest score for the season was 73 which means he didn't have a bad game. He averaged 107.6 from round 5 onwards so believe it or not he could increase his average by 5 although I am not expecting that haha. He is in his prime with an Essendon team that will be more competitive this season than last meaning he could get even more intercept marks from rushed opposition kicks. So for now he stays.

Hibberd is the guy I would bring in for him because he was a top 6 defender last year and he has even more upside this year.

Do like the Hurley selection, I think most would agree he will finish the year as a top 5 defender, so hard to fault selecting him from the start.
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« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2018, 10:19:56 AM »

I agree with MS - presuming the top 4 draft picks all start, you can afford to go one less in mids to strengthen backs and forwards. Great team MS!
Thanks mate. Looking at rookies this year I just can’t see any defender rookies (apart from Doedee) that look like viable options on the field so that is the reason why I’m going with one less mid premium as it allows me to get an extra premium in my defence. It is also the reason I’m going with Birchall as although I am not sold on many defender rookies getting games and at least Birchall will play and score 70+ most weeks.

I know rookies always pop up each year but I think the only rookie priced players that look like a genuine chance are key position players and I don’t want them in my team.

Obviously if more rookies pop up I might change my structure around a bit but I would rather start out with a “safe” line up.
Think you have done better teams MS.    Hurley is priced at his peak and just don't like taking KPP; little own at their peak.    Rather Yeo (later) or Simmo or Williams.     Like the mid approach and gives you flexibility.
Thanks for the feedback Crowls, I appreciate it.

On Hurley, His lowest score for the season was 73 which means he didn't have a bad game. He averaged 107.6 from round 5 onwards so believe it or not he could increase his average by 5 although I am not expecting that haha. He is in his prime with an Essendon team that will be more competitive this season than last meaning he could get even more intercept marks from rushed opposition kicks. So for now he stays.

Hibberd is the guy I would bring in for him because he was a top 6 defender last year and he has even more upside this year.

Do like the Hurley selection, I think most would agree he will finish the year as a top 5 defender, so hard to fault selecting him from the start.
Hurley will be in my team come EOY, i am not wanting to overpay for him.   So if timing works out somewhere between rnd 8 - 15 at about 480K  save 80k on buy in price.  Nothing wrong with starting him ecept paying top dollar for defenders.  Extra cash goes into having a better f4 or m6
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« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2018, 10:23:27 AM »

I agree with MS - presuming the top 4 draft picks all start, you can afford to go one less in mids to strengthen backs and forwards. Great team MS!
Thanks mate. Looking at rookies this year I just can’t see any defender rookies (apart from Doedee) that look like viable options on the field so that is the reason why I’m going with one less mid premium as it allows me to get an extra premium in my defence. It is also the reason I’m going with Birchall as although I am not sold on many defender rookies getting games and at least Birchall will play and score 70+ most weeks.

I know rookies always pop up each year but I think the only rookie priced players that look like a genuine chance are key position players and I don’t want them in my team.

Obviously if more rookies pop up I might change my structure around a bit but I would rather start out with a “safe” line up.
Think you have done better teams MS.    Hurley is priced at his peak and just don't like taking KPP; little own at their peak.    Rather Yeo (later) or Simmo or Williams.     Like the mid approach and gives you flexibility.
Thanks for the feedback Crowls, I appreciate it.

On Hurley, His lowest score for the season was 73 which means he didn't have a bad game. He averaged 107.6 from round 5 onwards so believe it or not he could increase his average by 5 although I am not expecting that haha. He is in his prime with an Essendon team that will be more competitive this season than last meaning he could get even more intercept marks from rushed opposition kicks. So for now he stays.

Hibberd is the guy I would bring in for him because he was a top 6 defender last year and he has even more upside this year.

Do like the Hurley selection, I think most would agree he will finish the year as a top 5 defender, so hard to fault selecting him from the start.
Hurley will be in my team come EOY, i am not wanting to overpay for him.   So if timing works out somewhere between rnd 8 - 15 at about 480K  save 80k on buy in price.  Nothing wrong with starting him ecept paying top dollar for defenders.  Extra cash goes into having a better f4 or m6
True but he could easily be selected in place of Laird in most teams, only 15k in price and that could probably be justified. As you say though, the balance between the value and proven prems is what makes or breaks a side.
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« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2018, 11:29:15 AM »

I get what your saying about Hurley dropping in price but if he is averaging 100 from the outset I will happily take that whether he drops in price or not.

Only reason I would drop him is if it was the only way it allowed me to get Lobb in at F4 if he is killing it in the JLT
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« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2018, 03:01:02 PM »

I think a consideration is whether a premium is going to increase their average.  If their average increases then their price is less likely to fall and may even increase. I think Hurley might do this and therefore should be considered in front of Laird and Yeo who are more likely to maintain their averages.
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« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2018, 03:04:54 PM »

I think a consideration is whether a premium is going to increase their average.  If their average increases then their price is less likely to fall and may even increase. I think Hurley might do this and therefore should be considered in front of Laird and Yeo who are more likely to maintain their averages.
Crowls thinks that Hurley won't maintain his average across the whole season so if he is right then not picking him is right but if he maintains/increases his average then it would be good selecting him.
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« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2018, 03:41:00 PM »

Agree with Crowls - get a second tier defender (plenty to choose from), then pick him up as season progresses. Money saved can be used to buy 2 decent top rookies, rather than 2 placeholders
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« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2018, 03:51:02 PM »

Agree with Crowls - get a second tier defender (plenty to choose from), then pick him up as season progresses. Money saved can be used to buy 2 decent top rookies, rather than 2 placeholders
Can see where you are coming from completely and it is by no means a bad idea.

Hurley (100) + basement rookies (55)
Witherden (90) + Brayshaw/Davies-Uniacke (65)

Although they end up scoring the same (give or take) You have a top 6 defender in one scenario but less money making ability and in the other you have a solid D6 but the best available rookies who will be able to get you a fallen premium quicker.

For now I am sticking with Hurley as I think he could improve his average potentially but I have considered the alternative as well.
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« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2018, 12:01:00 PM »

Version 3

def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Birchall, Richards, Doedee (Murphy, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Rayner, Ahern, Freeman (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cameron)
fwd: Heeney, Franklin, Greene, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Daniels, Ryan)
cash: $10,200

A few changes made main one is Chrsitensen in for Bennell. I looked at Ah Chee but I'm not confident that he has it in him to average 80+ whereas Christensen has in the past. Have also had more of a look at the rookies that i think are likely to get games.

Bye structure is 4/5/6 for premiums (including Birchall and Christensen) which is perfect in my eyes.

I doubt there will be that many good rookies available (you currently have 14 + a ruckman). You might need to get a couple more mid pricers for premium and rookie when the round 1 teams are announced.

Can't see Buddy not dropping off, given his age and skewed scoring last year with 3 160s, which followed two years under a 95 average. Other than that, looks great!
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« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2018, 01:22:31 PM »

Version 3

def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Birchall, Richards, Doedee (Murphy, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Rayner, Ahern, Freeman (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cameron)
fwd: Heeney, Franklin, Greene, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Daniels, Ryan)
cash: $10,200

A few changes made main one is Chrsitensen in for Bennell. I looked at Ah Chee but I'm not confident that he has it in him to average 80+ whereas Christensen has in the past. Have also had more of a look at the rookies that i think are likely to get games.

Bye structure is 4/5/6 for premiums (including Birchall and Christensen) which is perfect in my eyes.

I doubt there will be that many good rookies available (you currently have 14 + a ruckman). You might need to get a couple more mid pricers for premium and rookie when the round 1 teams are announced.

Can't see Buddy not dropping off, given his age and skewed scoring last year with 3 160s, which followed two years under a 95 average. Other than that, looks great!

Thanks for your thoughts FR.

Looking at last years starting side I had Marchbank and Hoskin-Elliot + 12 rookie priced players including a ruckman. So based on last years team I may need to downgrade a premium and upgrade a rookie but I will do that if needed.
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