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« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2018, 01:39:44 PM »

Version 3

def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Birchall, Richards, Doedee (Murphy, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Rayner, Ahern, Freeman (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cameron)
fwd: Heeney, Franklin, Greene, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Daniels, Ryan)
cash: $10,200

A few changes made main one is Chrsitensen in for Bennell. I looked at Ah Chee but I'm not confident that he has it in him to average 80+ whereas Christensen has in the past. Have also had more of a look at the rookies that i think are likely to get games.

Bye structure is 4/5/6 for premiums (including Birchall and Christensen) which is perfect in my eyes.

I doubt there will be that many good rookies available (you currently have 14 + a ruckman). You might need to get a couple more mid pricers for premium and rookie when the round 1 teams are announced.

Can't see Buddy not dropping off, given his age and skewed scoring last year with 3 160s, which followed two years under a 95 average. Other than that, looks great!

Thanks for your thoughts FR.

Looking at last years starting side I had Marchbank and Hoskin-Elliot + 12 rookie priced players including a ruckman. So based on last years team I may need to downgrade a premium and upgrade a rookie but I will do that if needed.

The problem is, this year there are no Marchbanks, Witts or Hoskis. The only 200k guys are first year players. I can see a lot of people stuck with crappy rookies.
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« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2018, 01:53:08 PM »

Version 3

def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Birchall, Richards, Doedee (Murphy, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Rayner, Ahern, Freeman (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cameron)
fwd: Heeney, Franklin, Greene, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Daniels, Ryan)
cash: $10,200

A few changes made main one is Chrsitensen in for Bennell. I looked at Ah Chee but I'm not confident that he has it in him to average 80+ whereas Christensen has in the past. Have also had more of a look at the rookies that i think are likely to get games.

Bye structure is 4/5/6 for premiums (including Birchall and Christensen) which is perfect in my eyes.

I doubt there will be that many good rookies available (you currently have 14 + a ruckman). You might need to get a couple more mid pricers for premium and rookie when the round 1 teams are announced.

Can't see Buddy not dropping off, given his age and skewed scoring last year with 3 160s, which followed two years under a 95 average. Other than that, looks great!

Thanks for your thoughts FR.

Looking at last years starting side I had Marchbank and Hoskin-Elliot + 12 rookie priced players including a ruckman. So based on last years team I may need to downgrade a premium and upgrade a rookie but I will do that if needed.

The problem is, this year there are no Marchbanks, Witts or Hoskis. The only 200k guys are first year players. I can see a lot of people stuck with crappy rookies.
I agree that in the backline especially people will struggle to find rookies so those than have someone like O’shea At D4 are going to be in for a shock but ....

Rayner, Brayshaw, Davies-Uniacke and Dow although 200k are all going to play and make money. There are always a few cheaper guys as well that come through also.

I’m not to worried just yet but can understand your concern.
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« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2018, 01:54:40 PM »

Franklin is very close to turning into Billings. 

I thought Franklin always had a few games where he went 140+ each season but:

Franklin's scores above 140 as a swan
2014: 146, 155, 168
2015: 149
2016: 141
2017: 160, 164, 183

So he is not a given to score 140+ 3 or so times a year to boost his average like I first thought. If you turn those 3 massive games he had into 130 which is more probable for next season he loses 117 points which brings his average to 93 exactly. He is 31 so isn't going to get any better. Sydney’s draw isn’t incredibly easy for Sydney either which may hinder his scoring.

Billings on the other hand who averaged 92.7 across last season as well as averaging 100 from round 7 onwards last year. He is only 22 and has natural improve and more midfield time on the cards. He also has the lions and kangas in the first two rounds. 30 possies, 4 goals and 140 supercoach points coming up? ;)

What is everyone’s thoughts on Franklin v Billings?
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« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2018, 05:16:55 PM »

Franklin is very close to turning into Billings. 

I thought Franklin always had a few games where he went 140+ each season but:

Franklin's scores above 140 as a swan
2014: 146, 155, 168
2015: 149
2016: 141
2017: 160, 164, 183

So he is not a given to score 140+ 3 or so times a year to boost his average like I first thought. If you turn those 3 massive games he had into 130 which is more probable for next season he loses 117 points which brings his average to 93 exactly. He is 31 so isn't going to get any better. Sydney’s draw isn’t incredibly easy for Sydney either which may hinder his scoring.

Billings on the other hand who averaged 92.7 across last season as well as averaging 100 from round 7 onwards last year. He is only 22 and has natural improve and more midfield time on the cards. He also has the lions and kangas in the first two rounds. 30 possies, 4 goals and 140 supercoach points coming up? ;)

What is everyone’s thoughts on Franklin v Billings?

Like them both. Had Billings locked in since day 1 though due to his favorable draw/bye and the fact that he is on the up. Franklin will be in the top 10 come seasons end but is one of those players that isn't necessary to start. I'd recommend pocketing the ~35k and running with Billings.
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« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2018, 05:44:04 AM »

Franklin is very close to turning into Billings. 

I thought Franklin always had a few games where he went 140+ each season but:

Franklin's scores above 140 as a swan
2014: 146, 155, 168
2015: 149
2016: 141
2017: 160, 164, 183

So he is not a given to score 140+ 3 or so times a year to boost his average like I first thought. If you turn those 3 massive games he had into 130 which is more probable for next season he loses 117 points which brings his average to 93 exactly. He is 31 so isn't going to get any better. Sydney’s draw isn’t incredibly easy for Sydney either which may hinder his scoring.

Billings on the other hand who averaged 92.7 across last season as well as averaging 100 from round 7 onwards last year. He is only 22 and has natural improve and more midfield time on the cards. He also has the lions and kangas in the first two rounds. 30 possies, 4 goals and 140 supercoach points coming up? ;)

What is everyone’s thoughts on Franklin v Billings?

Like them both. Had Billings locked in since day 1 though due to his favorable draw/bye and the fact that he is on the up. Franklin will be in the top 10 come seasons end but is one of those players that isn't necessary to start. I'd recommend pocketing the ~35k and running with Billings.

Good research on Buddy there mate and logical reasoning.
Billings is the Saint we're all excited about. Will keep improving and will play more in the midfield this season.. Brought in as an elite kick and there has been plenty of evidence of that, unbelievably though not in front of the big sticks....you can bet your bottom dollar he has been working hard on improving his goals to behinds ratio and I cannot see him being that bad again. He's played 64 games now so is coming into that time where he will put more of a stamp on games.
Billings gets the nod from me.
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« Reply #65 on: January 12, 2018, 09:52:54 AM »

Version 4

def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Brayshaw, Richards, Doedee (Murphy, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Rayner, Ahern, Freeman (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cameron)
fwd: Heeney, Greene, Billings, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Daniels, Ryan)
cash: $1,600

Franklin is too up and down for my liking and on the wrong side of 30 and Billings is up and coming and has the two worst teams of the comp up first so he is in.

Birchall is out as he has been having more complications and I don't want to downgrade him as a rookie as I don't think 5 rookies will get up and play round one at this stage. And I don't want to spend money on a premium either as it would effect other lines.

So in comes Brayshaw my breakout contender. 
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« Reply #66 on: January 12, 2018, 10:55:46 AM »

Version 4

def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Brayshaw, Richards, Doedee (Murphy, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Rayner, Ahern, Freeman (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cameron)
fwd: Heeney, Greene, Billings, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Daniels, Ryan)
cash: $1,600

Franklin is too up and down for my liking and on the wrong side of 30 and Billings is up and coming and has the two worst teams of the comp up first so he is in.

Birchall is out as he has been having more complications and I don't want to downgrade him as a rookie as I don't think 5 rookies will get up and play round one at this stage. And I don't want to spend money on a premium either as it would effect other lines.

So in comes Brayshaw my breakout contender.
Easy poll mate Billings 6 Buddy 0... pretty good sign there.
Brayshaw v Birchall could be a nil all draw...  ;)
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« Reply #67 on: January 12, 2018, 12:51:54 PM »

Version 4

def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Brayshaw, Richards, Doedee (Murphy, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Rayner, Ahern, Freeman (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat (Cameron)
fwd: Heeney, Greene, Billings, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Daniels, Ryan)
cash: $1,600

Franklin is too up and down for my liking and on the wrong side of 30 and Billings is up and coming and has the two worst teams of the comp up first so he is in.

Birchall is out as he has been having more complications and I don't want to downgrade him as a rookie as I don't think 5 rookies will get up and play round one at this stage. And I don't want to spend money on a premium either as it would effect other lines.

So in comes Brayshaw my breakout contender.
Easy poll mate Billings 6 Buddy 0... pretty good sign there.
Brayshaw v Birchall could be a nil all draw...  ;)
Hahahaha I told myself I would never try and guess a breakout contender again after so many failed attempts but here I am again. One breakout contender can't hurt too much I say. :P

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« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2018, 03:16:22 PM »

Birchall is out as he has been having more complications and I don't want to downgrade him as a rookie as I don't think 5 rookies will get up and play round one at this stage. And I don't want to spend money on a premium either as it would effect other lines.

So in comes Brayshaw my breakout contender.

Ciaran Byrne I have heard is a good option according to some Carlton fans if you wanted to free up some funds in that D4 position. Brayshaw is bit of a risk as I feel he has had 1 too many concussions for my liking.
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« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2018, 03:26:26 PM »

Birchall is out as he has been having more complications and I don't want to downgrade him as a rookie as I don't think 5 rookies will get up and play round one at this stage. And I don't want to spend money on a premium either as it would effect other lines.

So in comes Brayshaw my breakout contender.

Ciaran Byrne I have heard is a good option according to some Carlton fans if you wanted to free up some funds in that D4 position. Brayshaw is bit of a risk as I feel he has had 1 too many concussions for my liking.
Brayshaw and his concussions are a concern but at this stage I am really considering taking the risk.

I am a Carlton supporter and have looked into Byrne and have decided not too take him. I think Simpson and Mullet will have the small rebouding defender role covered this year and if Byrne was too get games it would be more of a lockdown non supercoach friendly role. However, at his price I can understand why some people would take the risk.
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« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2018, 05:45:22 PM »

Who is going to make more points - the extra defender or an extra midfielder? Think you gave one defender too many
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« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2018, 06:48:47 PM »

Who is going to make more points - the extra defender or an extra midfielder? Think you gave one defender too many
100% agree but I don’t think there will be 5 cheap defenders available. If there is then it will make everyone’s life a lot more easy.
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« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2018, 10:26:20 AM »

Who is going to make more points - the extra defender or an extra midfielder? Think you gave one defender too many
100% agree but I don’t think there will be 5 cheap defenders available. If there is then it will make everyone’s life a lot more easy.
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« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2018, 12:13:44 PM »

The same with Sicily and Crisp - can gamble with Backs a bit
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« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2018, 04:33:21 PM »

The same with Sicily and Crisp - can gamble with Backs a bit
Yeah I don't mind Crisp as a bit of a smoky.
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