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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 10:13:48 PM »

 ???

Gawn
Ryder
Kreuzer
Naitanui
The rest

This line doesn't really have a lot going against it ATM. The obvious and very popular combo of Gawn and Nicnat until one goes down, then the in form ruck at the time seems the most pain free way to go.

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 10:34:40 PM »

I'm not picking Gawn/Nicnat just to wait and see on others. I actually think they will be 2 of the top 4 along with Ryder and Kreuz so it's a no brainer to pick them
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 10:54:31 PM »

At the moment I am starting Gawn and Jacobs. Think Jacobs is slowly getting back to 2015 form and with the Crows being in contention this year and the inclusion of Gibbs can see him increasing his avearge,
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2018, 11:14:13 PM »

At the moment I am starting Gawn and Jacobs. Think Jacobs is slowly getting back to 2015 form and with the Crows being in contention this year and the inclusion of Gibbs can see him increasing his avearge,

Very durable too having only missed 4 games in the past 6 seasons
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2018, 03:05:09 PM »

No fkn clue.

Rucks are going to be very important this year.

Agree on the first comment but not on the second.

my answer to the original question is who cares.

barring injury the obvious set up for me is NN Gawn, the fact people are struggling to come up with who is the number 1 option proves this.

You have a solid point here.
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2018, 06:31:25 AM »

Gawn & NN and then to Kruezer once one gets injured
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2018, 06:49:08 AM »

I’m fairly certain that Ryder will be the #1 ruck in SC but given his bye I will starting Gawn and NN like most.
Ryder, Gawn, Jacobs, Kreuzer, Stef... my top 5... will be interesting to revisit this thread at year’s end to see how far off I am.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2018, 07:50:34 PM »

I'm not picking Gawn/Nicnat just to wait and see on others. I actually think they will be 2 of the top 4 along with Ryder and Kreuz so it's a no brainer to pick them

Sorry, didn't mean it the way it sounded. I don't think that both can get through 22 games. So when, or if the shower hits the fan, I'll pick up the in form alternative.
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2018, 10:51:46 AM »

At the moment I am starting Gawn and Jacobs. Think Jacobs is slowly getting back to 2015 form and with the Crows being in contention this year and the inclusion of Gibbs can see him increasing his avearge,
He's certainly not the worse pick this year and needs to be strongly considered.

Would like to start Ryder but it's hard to fit him in with the Rd10 bye, especially with the lack of ruck cover.
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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2018, 11:27:30 PM »

"His injury was a bigger injury than other ACLs (anterior cruciate ligament)," said leading Perth orthopaedic surgeon Peter Annear, who performed the operation to repair Naitanui's knee.

"When you rupture your ACL that is one part of the injury, but it is often the secondary injury.

"He had a big bone injury and that was very much why on the medical side of things we have gone slower with him."

"He certainly won't be, in the first half of the season, the player he was before the injury," said Dr Annear.

"We can wiggle his knee and say he is stable, his movement is good, his muscle is good," explained Dr Annear.

"But all those subtle, what we call 'proprioceptive-type' movements — where he feels where his knee is on the field — that will improve and still be improving. That takes (another) 12 months.

"If you talk to footy coaches it is a two-year recovery, so this first year back after an ACL they tend not to play as well, they tend to be improving out to their pre-injury level."

So with history as a guide, it will be a while until we see the 201-centimetre, 110-kilogram ruckman back to his best.

Naitanui looks to be a no go from here.

So the choices now are

Kreuzer - Gawn,
Kreuzer - Ryder or
Ryder - Gawn
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2018, 12:46:43 AM »

Jacobs - Gawn for me

Ryder has the shower bye which means a donut or a wasted trade

Kruezer is a bit pricey for me, will consider him if there is plenty of cheap rookies out there
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2018, 04:51:07 AM »

"His injury was a bigger injury than other ACLs (anterior cruciate ligament)," said leading Perth orthopaedic surgeon Peter Annear, who performed the operation to repair Naitanui's knee.

"When you rupture your ACL that is one part of the injury, but it is often the secondary injury.

"He had a big bone injury and that was very much why on the medical side of things we have gone slower with him."

"He certainly won't be, in the first half of the season, the player he was before the injury," said Dr Annear.

"We can wiggle his knee and say he is stable, his movement is good, his muscle is good," explained Dr Annear.

"But all those subtle, what we call 'proprioceptive-type' movements — where he feels where his knee is on the field — that will improve and still be improving. That takes (another) 12 months.

"If you talk to footy coaches it is a two-year recovery, so this first year back after an ACL they tend not to play as well, they tend to be improving out to their pre-injury level."

So with history as a guide, it will be a while until we see the 201-centimetre, 110-kilogram ruckman back to his best.

Naitanui looks to be a no go from here.

So the choices now are

Kreuzer - Gawn,
Kreuzer - Ryder or
Ryder - Gawn
That is a massive negative. Haven’t heard or read anything like that before.
I need to find some cash now for another option.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2018, 07:57:32 AM »

Damn doctors should keep there mouths shut they already sprouted off about his knee being a degenerative problem last year and people were still picking him now this has come out any chance of a advantage gone now  :'(
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2018, 08:46:53 AM »

It doesn't really put me off at all. If he plays he's  in my side because he will go 95+ even if he's only playing at 70%
The worry is him being rested
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2018, 08:48:20 AM »

Damn doctors should keep there mouths shut they already sprouted off about his knee being a degenerative problem last year and people were still picking him now this has come out any chance of a advantage gone now  :'(
A lot of people will still pick him in my opinion. However, I won't be.
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