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« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2020, 08:42:50 PM »

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Trade 8
New York trade: Pick 39 + Trey Ruscoe
Mexico City trade: Pick 26

Trade 9
New York trade: James Harmes, Jake Aarts + Pick 26
New York receive: Isaac Quaynor + Pick 46

Berlin trade: Isaac Quaynor, Pick 17 + Pick 46
Berlin receive: George Hewett, James Harmes + Pick 26

Moscow trade: George Hewett
Moscow receive: Jake Aarts + Pick 17

Trade 10
New York trades: Harry Jones + Pick 46
Moscow trades: Pick 31 + Pick 59

Trade 11
New York trade: Ronin O'Connor + Pick 31
Tokyo trade: Jamie Cripps + Pick 60

Trade 12
New York trade: Eddie Betts
New Delhi trade: Pick 56

Trade 13
Dublin trade: Cody Weightman + Pick 49
Tokyo trade: Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti

Trade 14
Pacific trade:  Bailey J Williams + Callum Jamieson
Mexico City trade:  Charlie Constable

Trade 15
Moscow trade: Tom Liberatore + Pick 22
Tokyo trade: Jason Johannisen, Pick 24 + Pick 31

Trade 16
Moscow trade: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Ryan Clarke + Sam Sturt
Mexico trade: James Worpel + Kysaiah Pickett

Trade 17
Moscow trade: Jack Sinclair + PSD Pick 5
New Delhi trade: Pick 20, Pick 21 + Pick 38

With one team left (London), since the above trades have received 2 votes or less, they all auto-pass.
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« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2020, 08:30:54 PM »

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Trade 18
New York trade: Dan Houston, Kyle Langford, Pick 2 + PSD Pick 3
New Delhi trade: Jake Lloyd + Jack Sinclair

Trade 19
Christchurch trade: Pick 37
Cairo trade: Jake Pasini + Pick 45

Trade 20
Cairo trade: Ben Brown + Pick 37
Rio de Janeiro trade: Jeremy Finlayson, Josh Walker, Sam Philp + Pick 25

Trade 21
Buenos Aires trade: Kamdyn McIntosh
Rio de Janeiro trade: Aaron Francis

3 teams still to vote (London, Christchurch, Beijing)\

Trades 19-21 have received either 0 or 1 votes. Even if those trades with 1 votes get another 3, I won't be overturning the pass decision, so they pass.

Trade 18 - subject of much debate today on Discord - has received 6 votes, which moves it to the 'rejected - but can be overturned by admin' category.

Coaches comments: *paraphrasing* Believe NDT are not receiving ample compensation for losing its best player - one that averages 30 points more than its next highest averaging player. Considering that the substantial loss (-30 pts) is amplified by no captain option going the other way (so another -30 points), it is felt that New York may need to revise what it's trading, whereby the variance between Lloyd's average and any player New York give in return is reduced.

Admin comments: I've seen these trades go either way, but it appears the key factor here is the circumstances of New Delhi, whereby trading Lloyd leaves it without a player averaging more than 92 in 2020 (a solo game by Hinge aside). The resultant loss to New Delhi's best XV is therefore bigger than most teams, and I don't disagree enough with the coaches when they say this loss is inadequately covered, at least in a best XV sense, by what New York is trading.

Verdict: REJECTED

Closing remark: I understand having a trade be rejected can be frustrating. In the moment, it's easy to express that frustration hastily, and in language that can irk negative debate. It's just not necessary - from both sides. In the future, I hope these conversations can be more civil going forward, and that coaches can just walk away from debate which is not helpful. It's hard (I get tested all the time), but honestly, WXVs is not worth hanging onto that negative energy. Let it go, move on, and view it as an opportunity to either negotiate a better deal, or see what else is out there. You'll be better for it.

I'll send the reasons provided to New Delhi and New York shortly.
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« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2020, 04:35:15 PM »

Happy to package up picks 25 and 27 for something, open to ideas but a defender, mid or even a higher pick would do. 
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« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2020, 05:29:02 PM »

There is a possibility Hopper, Florent and Budarick could all go soon, if you have asked about these please consider this your noticed as all 3 have been asked about a bit and i cant remember who :P
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« Reply #64 on: October 20, 2020, 12:25:31 PM »

Beijing Thunder

(Assuming our trades are passed)

Defenders:
On the table: Jaxon Prior, Francis Watson
Could be moved: Marcus Adams, Tom Jonas
Probably staying: Caleb Daniel, Dan Houston, Bachar Houli, Wil Powell

Midfielders:
On the table: Callan Ward, Tom Cutler, Ed Phillips, Callum Porter
Could be moved: James Aish, Dan Howe
Probably staying: Choccy Neale, Tom Rockliff, David Swallow, Brandon Ellis, Kyron Hayden

Rucks:
On the table: Callum Coleman Jones, Sam Alabakis
Probably staying: Brodie Grundy

Forwards:
On the table: Josh Caddy, Tex Walker, Ned Cahill, Jake Tarca, Callum M Brown
Could be moved: Mason Cox, Kane Farrell, Tyson Stengle
Probably staying: Milo, Dayne Zorko, Kane Lambert, Luke Breust, Dan Butler, Max King, Jy Farrar

Looking for an alright D4 type, and an alright mid. All picks are on the table
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« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2020, 08:35:02 PM »

3 teams to go

Only trade 22 and 25 has received votes so far, so the rest will autopass.

22 and 25 are still pending
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« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2020, 09:34:38 PM »

1 team to go

Trade 22 auto-passes.

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« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2020, 10:52:09 PM »

1 team to go

Trade 22 auto-passes.

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« Reply #68 on: October 22, 2020, 02:25:24 PM »

Trade 25
Christchurch trade: Mark Blicavs + Pick 1
New York trade: Xavier Duursma, Isaac Quaynor, Tom McDonald + Louis Butler

Received 5 votes, with the consensus feeling that Christchurch wasn't receiving enough compensation for Blicavs, where Pick 1 was considered worth Duursma + Quaynor, or at least the bulk of it. Given Blicavs is a genuine premo with chances of R status, the remaining pieces were felt inadequate for his worth.

1 coach thought the exact opposite.

I don't disagree with the coaches enough to overturn, so this trade passes.
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« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2020, 05:36:40 PM »

20yo Duursma with 30 matches under his belt and avg. 70+ in his first two seasons.
   NY took him 7th in the 2018 draft.  Even if that was slightly high, he was going in the top 10.
     
If Duurs was available(currently as is) in this draft, fair chance he would be taken in the top 3
   ....Could be a Port bias on my part.

Not sure how NY are not paying enough.  And that's my 1.9 cents

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« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2020, 06:25:15 PM »

20yo Duursma with 30 matches under his belt and avg. 70+ in his first two seasons.
   NY took him 7th in the 2018 draft.  Even if that was slightly high, he was going in the top 10.
     
If Duurs was available(currently as is) in this draft, fair chance he would be taken in the top 3
   ....Could be a Port bias on my part.

Not sure how NY are not paying enough.  And that's my 1.9 cents

This guy gets it  :-* :-* :-*



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« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2020, 06:51:05 PM »

Surely he's only gained value since being drafted.  A known vs an unknown(given so few under-18 matches).
   It's not like there's a stand out Walsh or Rowell this season.  Anyhow it passed so there ya go.
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« Reply #72 on: October 24, 2020, 12:04:11 AM »

I've had a few people ask about Brennan Cox, and while I am very hesitant, I've also found myself with the nice problem of a surplus of starting-quality defenders, so I am open to bringing in someone else to strengthen another line long term.

Averaged 80 this year when finally given a good run at it, and 86 post-bye. Less than 50 games into his career as a big man, so has more improvement in him too.

Enquire within! :)
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« Reply #73 on: October 24, 2020, 07:26:08 PM »

Happy to package N11 with one of Cunnington, Higgins, or Shiels for a younger mid.

Alternatively, can be packaged with any player for an upgrade on that player, or even on its own for a player of any position, for anyone looking to hit the draft.
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« Reply #74 on: October 24, 2020, 11:17:56 PM »

Looking for a 70+ defender, doesn't have to be a sexy option but if they're not best 22 I'm not interested. Contact via Discord.
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